Where Is The Foxbody Market Headed?
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This is great news specially when I'm the original owner of my 1993 with only 33,000 miles on it. Great video BTW!
Brother I liked the Iroc but there is no sound like a 5.0. And I don't mean the new one. Even the new 5.0 don't sound like a Foxbody 5.0. The sound, the look. There is no other. They are just a awesome platform.
Agreed 👍
Well said
You could tell a fox body from a couple blocks away by the sound. My wife would always be impressed that I could tell what the car was that was coming, I told her they have a unique sound to them, then she started to be able to tell them apart.
Back when I was a teenager I’m 46 now. I lived 4 blocks from a mall and Everybody used to cruise the mall and you could tell the 5.0s from 4-6 blocks away
Agreed. With you and the video. I love the coyotes but I haven't heard one yet that sounds as good as a mild pushrod 5.0. A sound like no other.
It’s crazy. I bought a 90GT 2 yrs ago for $9200. Decent price for the car plus or minus $500. Great looking car. I’ve had offers of $15k and $25k since buying it.
Every time I leave my car at my mechanic, he calls and tells me people come in and give him offers for my car....well above what I paid. I have an 89 GT convertible. 49K mile car, in very good condition and I think I paid over price at $12,000, but the offers are well north of that. LOL.
Truth! My Capri wasn't an easy car to find, especially for the shape it's in and I know I paid to much but the market was what it was.
I picked up an 86 SVO in 2020 for $4500. Looks like it was the right time to buy.
To add to that . The guys who had one or always wanted one back in the day are now in a situation where they can get one because their kids are grown and they're secure financially so it's time to relive there teenage years.
I feel one reason they are so popular is they have always dominated the streets and tracks because of the suspension set-up, it sounds good anyway lol.
That’s a huge part of their success 💯
Thats a good point.
They dominated until a grand national came along.
When I first started driving I was in love with T-Top IROC's with those iconic 5 star mags, swap the Auto tranny out for the 5 spd to mate with the 350! My first car was a 90 LX 5.0 with the 5spd which my dad sold it to me for a dollar. The few 5spd 350 Irocs and Trans Am's that I knew of didn't stand a chance against my bone stock LX 5.0. This was during Fast and Furious 1 yrs so everyone was racing and I barely loss with a intake and exhaust 5.0. If we hold onto these Foxes they maybe worth a small fortune
I'm a diehard FORD guy. It doesn't matter what kind of Ford. I even have a Ford riding lawn mower. As a teenager my first vehicle was a lowered '69 F100 in 1988. But I fell in love when I first saw heard a 1987 GT. I knew I had to have one. Hell, the desire to own that car motivated me to get good grades in school and go to college so that I could afford it. I bought the first one at 22 and today at almost 50 it is still my favorite car to drive even though I have others that are faster and more refined. It's stock, unmolested, has 300K miles and still runs flawlessly. I also own a 65 Sportsroof and a 67 coupe but the ol fox is my baby.
Another thing is the capri from 79-86! Love those cars and even get to have the experience of owning one. I feel like the capri is kinda overlooked or not as noticed like the foxes but one thing you can’t deny is the capri has its own unique look like the fox.
I hear ya, I just bought a cherry low mile 1980 Capri 🤘
I always wanted an 84 or 85 RS. LOVE the looks of these ! 😊❤
Man that retro fox with the 17” pony’s is so spot on. Picture perfect.
I remember when they were attainable and sold for 3k-8k everyday of the week. In the past three years they have appreciated a lot. Same thing happened with the ford lightning first gen. Had the opportunity to purchase a couple for 8-9k and now I can’t find them for anything less than 17k here in Cali.
I've seen this happen time and time again since the 80s. I sold off a bunch of different types of classic cars back in '15. And I got as much as I could. I never believe that those cars would go for what they do today. Thousands of dollars more.i wish I would had seen that coming.
So I think these cars will keep going up and up and up.
I paid 5700 for a rust free 89 notch as you can see in my profile picture....it was almost turned into a drag car but I saved it....has a 460 in it at the moment but all the wiring is there and the previous owner saved all the interior pieces so I've been putting it back together and soon I will be getting rid of the 460 c6 combo and either going coyote or a Windsor based stroker build that will be a street/track car and it will be in award winning shape....the project has just begun and I'm not rushing it one bit...I'm in my 40s and owned over 15 foxes but this is my first notch...I've been wanting one for well over a decade now and finally found one to build!
BRE21 i just found your channel a few days ago and you do a phenomenal job and are the most knowledgeable fox body guy i have ever heard i am 55 years old i had an 82gt and an 85gt in the mid to late 80s thanks so much sharing your knowledge and expertise
Got mine in 2017 for 3,000 with 97,000 original miles. Just had paint issues and a faded top. 1990 LX convertible 5.0 5 speed. Has 110,000 today
I think the popularity is based on the main age group that likes them. It’s the mostly older crowd, myself included, that likes an old fashioned push rod engine instead of the later OHC engines. The stock OHC engines produce more power than the stock Windsor 5.0, but mods are easier on the 5.0. It’s also nostalgia. When I was younger, I wanted a 5.0 Mustang but it was out of my price range. Now that I’m older and have money, I bought one, then another, and another. I’m guessing it’s the same with Camaros, Corvettes, 300ZX, Supras, RX7s, or whatever.
Agreed. I learned to drive on my dad's 88 GT. I was 16. Now in my 40's decided to pull the trigger!
Always good stuff man!!
Well said bud, i think they are sought after because of the way the platform is setup, good size engine bay, very
light cars with good power and the cars can be easily modified with a ton support from a performance community
and damn people just loved these cars.
You're on point with this video, ever thing you're saying is happening in my city
I paid 10k 2 years ago for mine with a built 347 and a T trim
Ended up cracking the block a year later but I feel it was the best deal I could find
I think the lightweight chassis and nostalgia of us guys in our 40’s likely having one in our teens is a good chunk of the reasoning behind the recent uptick in popularity of the Fox Mustang.
I always get noticed when i daily drive my 91’ LX 4 cylinder (now turbo), even when its filthy and needs a wash. Lol
I also enjoy seeing 80’-90’s GM F-body cars, on the road, I always wave to them and they wave back when I’m in my Mustang.
I was actually getting gas the other day when I noticed iI was actually getting gas the other day when I noticed in an 89’ Camaro at the other pump, chatted with the dude and found out we both really dig each other’s cars, and he’s the same age as me. Lol
I get thumbs up and waves all the time too. I like seeing the Camaros of that era out as well. I was cruising one evening in my 87 GT and coming the opposite way was a nice looking '84 or '85 Mustang... we passed by with the thumbs up!
Dude your video is 100% correct. I been window shopping foxbodies for about 4 years and you're accurate with the pricing. Could get a nice daily cruiser back then for 4500-6k with little mods and RTR. Now can't get a running and driving car that don't look like a rust bucket for under 7k at least in pa.
That sucks…. 🙁
Come to Texas they are still pretty cheap here. And prices are falling from what they were couple months ago.
First time I heard and saw a foxbody I was hooked, now restoring a 1979 foxbody coupe Ghia with a 302 V8. Gonna be sick. Would love to send some before and after pics Brew2l.
Nice! Brew2lvlogs@gmail.com
HOTROD Magazine called the 5.0 LX the 55 Chevy of the modern era back in 87.
The same buzz happened back when the smallblock Chevy was introduced.
Both platforms were easily modified to go faster.
I 💯agree with every word you stated! The Foxbody is here to stay, but the price will continue to fluctuate almost like stocks. But mannnn they are so my fun and definitely worth restoration if you find one. 💯👊🏾
My car is priceless right now because of memories being made with my son Isaiah & I. I love the picture of you & Isaiah in this video, more priceless memories. Great video BREW2L 👊🏻
My wife and I bought an 89 GT this past summer. We happened to find it while at SMR. So much fun. Got a lot of car for 8500.
Hi first I want to say thank you, I have own a 93 fox for like 25 years . 17 years ago I started my family and then I put the car to the side because life I didn't touch my car for 15 years, around 9 mouth mouths ago I was looking at RUclips and I found your video and I started to learn more about my fox I got inspired and know I'm very close to get my car running again after 15 years, thank you very much for your video
There’s still plenty of interior pieces that aren’t being reproduced yet. Some of them are hard as balls to locate in good condition on the used market.
Well said my friend. I think since the platform ran from 1979-1993 and most people can relate to having one or one in their family or having a story spanning basically over two generations. They are light fun cars that sound about as good as anything. I’ve had 11 of them, down to 2 of em now. I Miss the other 9
Spot on ☝️
Yup thats why i bought mine!
It’s crazy what people are asking for these, 6500$ with rusted shock towers that you can put your hand through. I’ve been looking for almost a month now. Found a couple and the cars are gone by the time I get there or people back out on deals. I’m going tomorrow to look at a95 cobra, wish me luck. It’s not a fox, but it looks really nice and the price is right.
Got my 90 GT convertible in June since then I put a new Top 4 new Riken Raptor tires clean the inside took seats out new brakes alternator took smog pump I forgot the rest next year paint I love ❤️ it rigth now about $10 Gs
Great video i agree👍
Great vid
Sincerely a GM BlueBlood
I bought a clean rust free untouched 1 owner 4cyl manual notch for $1000 2 weeks ago. 🤷🏻♂️ it’s been parked for 13 years in someone’s backyard. I saw it there and hounded them for a week until they decided to let me buy it.
For me it was seeing Caine driving a 5.0 in the 90smovie Menace2Society
I'm praying these prices trickle over to the newedge. I think it's definitely started. I love your moms 01 cobra. I have one too. The front bumpers are so 🔥 on them. They are worth gold... just like the amber taillights. Both are discontinued & rare.
I feel like I'm the black sheep in the modern car world due to me giving 0 fucks about a cars value other than how much it costs to buy. I have an 09 Glassroof GT and I get offers for it all the time, but I just dont care. I'm not after the potential value of the damn thing.
The GT sideskirt thing is really frustrating. I need to repaint mine badly, and my sideskirts have that wave going on from all these years. But I don't want "Cobra" sideskirts, or blank aftermarket sideskirts. You are right, someone needs to do something about this. I may just end up having to go with the wavy originals, because I'd rather have the lettering.
Bought my 1988 midnight blue LX for a Polaris snowmobile and 1,000 cash. Now I could easily sell for 17-20k
Carburated 302, little to 0 rust, wiring hell so rewired whole harness
Not all of the generation that saw these cars on the streets for the first time were able to afford them. Fast forward 20-30 years to where many of those same people now have careers and the funds to make such a purchase. These cars aren't too complicated to work on either which makes them appealing. Even though original parts are getting more scarce by the day, aftermarket companies have stepped up to support the enthusiast now more than they ever have. In many states, emissions restrictions are off the table so passing an inspection with a relatively modified car is actually easier.
The fox body the SN95 and the New edge bodies are going to keep going up these cars still feel old school and everyone wants them. 👍
Good to hear I got a new edge I’m re doing! It only has a 130k original miles on it. I got it for a steal and the beginning of Corona.
I think they will continue to rise, but slower than the mood trajectory of the past few years. They made a ton of them but almost all of them were 4 cyl econoboxes. Of the V8 cars, how many died to rust since they are huge rust buckets? How many got used up for race cars? These were the cool car of choice and builder car for all of generation X. There aren't that many nice, unmolested ones left and those aren't going down. I wouldn't trade mine for a 65
The Fox platform's greatest strength, IMHO, is it's light weight. If you have taken a door off one, you know, especially if, by comparison, you have had to put door bushings in a Camaro, or Monte SS, (because their doors are so damn heavy, they crack by the rear view mirror, and kill bushing like no other).
Ford doors over the years in general hold up better in that sense vs GM. I have a '77 Continental Mark V, and even with the long, heavy doors the car has, they do not sag.
found my first Fox about 12 years ago for $1,800. it was a rare color code 8L sand beige with rust on the hatch, yellow headlights, headliner falling apart, sagging suspension, it would nosedive when slamming the breaks. now fast forward to todays market, i just paid top dollar for an all original, in mint condition, 1 owner, 33k miles 1989 convertible color code 6v. very rare convertible with only 127 ever made. all worth it. now i have 2 foxbodys.
Spent 2k plus traded a beat up 4th gen v6 camaro for mine and then spent 6k to build a 302 with all new internals gt40 heads and tfs cam. Paint is a little rough but its all one color and very little rust. Its now my daily and i dont ever plan on selling unless i get offered a stupid amount for it
Man I love the retro on those pony wheels such a bad ass look
I have my black 93 Cobra still sitting in the barn waiting for someone to buy it it's been there for over 20 years has 36,000 original miles no mods except an alarm system
Please don't tell ME your address.... 😲😲😲
How much? Im just a youngling trying to make my dream come true. Do you have social media with the car?
@@zestooo6932 I'm very firm at 33,000
@@zestooo6932 I'm also the original owner
@@chuckb9867 oh damn you got instagram or something?
I just picked up a 90 gt hatch 5 speed,95k miles.pretty damn clean with minor issues.prior owner did alot of nice popular bolt ons.i put 200 miles on and the computer shit the bed.$650 later it runs again.im still doing more of the common/popular add ons/modifications….i paid $11,000 for it
Great videos great content great car,🙏🏽✅
I just got mine no rust 54k new tranny new exterior for 6gs I’ve drove it 2x since and I cannot wait to get back into it Lolol
Definitely cause I’m bout to get me one
87-93 Notchback 4 Cylinder Rollers are going for $5k+ now...
And here I thought the new sign off was gonna be "It's just nuts and bolts". 😆
"Odd color interior cars will probably start to gain value." Ironic, considering how many people have converted to black throughout the years. I wouldn't even consider changing my crystal blue interior. In fact, I restored it. Props to you for always keeping the red. Colored interiors are quite literally a thing of the past.
I always cringe when I see someone dye their mint colored interior to black, I try to advise against but well, not my car. I did convert my 79 notch from red to black, but only because the red parts were dry rot, and the dash pad was cracked, and I had all the parts in great condition...I loved the red interior but it was impossible to keep clean on a daily for these reasons
I got mine last year for $4.8k. Broken trans, so it had to get rebuilt. Nonetheless, a $6.8k car. No rust, no major issues. Had someone offer me $10k for the car just a few months ago
WellWill you be able to sell merchandise at the LMR event this year?
I can’t sell anything at the track. But we are going to try to come up with something outside of that.
Bought my four eye 5.0 4spd for 1800 back in 2015! Currently LQ4 swapping it with a 03/04 Cobra rear
There's still some out there to get but you have to be careful and know what you're looking for before you buy it. (research problem spots)
You definitely got to put in the leg work but they are still out there
All cars especially specialty cars such as sports cars, diesel, and 4x4 have gone crazy in value. But one of the reasons certain platforms are so sought after is because they are known for being affordable great platforms. Which made them well known which has made them expensive.
Think about the Dodge Charger 68-70 models. A rusted shell fetched $25k nowadays. A restored is $50-120k easy .
Picking up a bone stock 91 SSP this weekend. Is the smart money to build a car out of it or restore it? I really want to build one, but finding a bone stock car is super rare anymore. Great channel, man. Look forward to meeting you one of these days.
You mentioned "Weird options". This got me thinking and might be a vid within itself. How many do you know of? For example I wonder IF you could have ordered a completely stripped down non-power interior with 2.3 lx seats, no power windows, no power locks, radio delete, etc.....but with a GT exterior "appearance" package? I guess I'm wondering if you could have ordered a GT with a stripped down lx 2.3 interior...was this possible from the factory?
The whole, is greater then the sum of the parts. These cars are awesome plain and simple. Anyone who doesn’t like them, probably haven’t driven one.
As interest rates keep climbing, prices will stall out and come back down some. Too many people finance their toys.
I’m 31 and there is a huge change in prices in just the last 10 years, I think. You could go cruising with 1000 bucks and find a running project sitting in someone’s yard. Now people want 3-5k for their non running/driving projects. I saw this trend happen before Covid.
Hard to say but it wouldn’t surprise me if prices were similar in 20 years. Roughly 2.6 million Fox Bodies were sold. About 2.5 million 1964.5-1970 Mustangs were sold. I agree with and believe the prices won’t jump like they have the last 3 years but they will never be what they were 5-6 years ago. Those days are gone forever. It will be a slow a steady rise from here.
I’ve had mine for 22 years. Never going to let her go and it will be in my will lol.
Yes!
I think you are spot on sir!
I'm just happy I have mine already, I ain't paying that inflation price 😂
I think it's mainly the styling of the car thar makes it so popular I've owned plenty of foxbodys and if your putting down alot of power you HAVE to reinforce the entire chassis because these things flex bad
What's your thoughts on a 84 ASC McLaren convertible all factory. I've got one in my sights all original with only minor paint correction needed.
I don’t about any where else but where I’m at gutted shells are going for $2-$4k and running and driving examples are going from $6-$20k+. I just bought an 87 for $2.5K running and driving and I feel like I stole it. Once I’m done with it I’m pretty sure it’ll sell for over $10k. The market is strong right now because the people who grew up with Mustangs now have the income to afford a luxury like this.
What size are the draglite on the red mustang
Cool. I got my 89 due to availability (and it was not a Chevy). I like my Mopars, but they pretty much left the hotrod car scene in the 80's, 90's and early 2000's (until the 3rd gen Hemi)
I loved my red 85 GT. I had that car when my friends had the fuel injected mustangs. Mine sounded much better. Bought mine for 6,000 in 1993.
I've had my Notch for 28 years it will be 29 in May of 2023. I bought used from orginal owner in 1994. Bimini Blue Notch
Had a deep red 90 hatchback gt with titanium lower and a 5 spd. God I loved that car! I got so many tickets in that car. From the exhaust to the subs to the speeding! 114 in a 55 yikes 😬
2 weeks ago I bought a roller 85 coupe for a buddy out of state and shipped it to him... $3k, in TX, mostly rust free but yeah, the coupe prices are getting stupid.
Enough Said In This Video Man!!!
I bought my stock notch for under $1500 before the pandemic. Since the prices are going up, I’m never selling it
I have a 79 Ghia Hatch with the sunroof. A few years back it was KBB at around $1,800. Today if I was to sell it it would go for anywhere between 7k and 12k! Unfortunately in my younger days I decided to switch the factory red interior with gray. So I tossed the red factory Ghia interior in the donor car and sold it, leaving me with a gray, non factory interior. I also tossed the factory nose and hood for a 84 GT setup and 89 LX taillights. Now I am torn between just staying the path I have taken or going treasure hunting for the original interior etc. Luckily I didn't touch the factory tilt steering and intermittent wiper setup. I never plan to sell the car so I am thinking it is irrelevant whether it is factory anymore. Still, only 39k(ish) Ghia Hatches were made in 79. One thing that I cannot figure out is it is an F code 302 vin but the previous owner swears it came with a 255?
I still have my Fox Body 84 Thunderbird, 13,500 miles
What kind of wheels are on the car in thumbnail?
I don't disagree with this. I'm seeing a lot of cars selling in the $3500-$6500 range in the pre winter sell off that usually happens this time of year. That absolutely wasn't the case last fall. You were lucky to find a non 4 cylinder or a clean roller below $6k. The hype has definitely died down and prices are leveling off. Let's face it, there was a lot of free money circulating last year. This year, people are feeling the pinch of risen fuel, food, and goods. No one is throwing money out left and right like last year.
It doesn't matter....demand will drive the prices. At the end of the day - - - people will pay for what they want. I buy cars because I like them and love to upgrade them...when I sell them, I never expect to make what I spent...that's not the plan, but if I do make money that is fine; I've learned that, if someone really wants you car, they'll pay what you are asking.
I have been looking for a nice original notch (no mods) for a couple years now. For unknown reasons the notch fox 90-93 in California is not there. Tons of beat up hatches for 10-15k. Maybe some day I will find the golden egg.
I find it har to find a nice set of tail light for a 1979
It's not too many left thas why the value is through the roof I have an 85 gt I got for 6 in I get offers all the time for 10,000 it don't matter if its stock are not
I also got a original 89 highway patrol issued car with only 39,000 miles
can you do a video on how to set msd rev limiter?
I personally believe the 93 5.0 convertible is going to be the one to to be worth the most
So if the vin is key does this mean a 4cyl vin with all the goods including a 5.0 swap is no good for collecting?
Every time i take my car out and stop somewhere someone offers to buy it…92 GT
They're light weight, look cool, will accept most any engine, are RWD, the aftermarket is huge, and they made a bunch of them. Plus it's a Mustang. But they're also flimsy, noisy, and have a terrible suspension setup and geometry. Still I love the Foxbody.
still rocking a bone stock all original 1988 g.t. time capsule and the only thing that i saw that got more attention was a restored ford pinto
Dude shells are hella expensive in California especially for a Notchback 5 speed 😑😫
I'm seriously planning to make some new parts for the Fox body Mustangs, not a whole lot left that isn't being made already but I have a few things that are being studied for a new tooling. We can make a relatively low production.
We have already reproduced the 15" 82-84 Trans Am hubcaps, exactly like the originals (aluminum on ABS) and the first shipments will be in a couple months.
If you have some good ideas of parts that are in demand for these, let me know. I have a whole list, but I know four eyed models better than the Aero nose.
I grew up with this car and owned 3 of them and I still own my last one for twenty four years and can’t part with it it’s part of the family
It hard to find one that’s not dragged or clapped out