The NEW '61 SG | 2019 Gibson SG Standard Maestro Vibrola | In-Depth Review + Demo
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Today we take an in-depth look at the new for 2019 Gibson SG Standard '61 Maestro Vibrola - Vintage Cherry.
Overall, I liked this guitar, but it struggled to stay in tune with the factory set-up. However, we all already knew that would be the case as history has already taught us that lesson. We love them anyways!
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0:48 - The Original Collection
1:18 - SG History + Trems
3:18 - Why These Are Special
3:52 - First Impressions
6:26 - Inside Look / Specs
12:57 - Clean Tones
14:33 - Crunch Tones
15:55 - Tone Talk
16:24 - Tuning + Trem Test
18:50 - Final Thoughts
21:48 - Case + Candy
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The NEW Original Collection '61 SG | 2019 Gibson SG 1961 Reissue Maestro Vibrola | In-Depth Review + Demo
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It might be important to note these are not called "Reissues" anymore, but rather the '61 SG Standard.
Episode Guide:
0:00 - Intro
0:48 - The Original Collection
1:18 - SG History + Trems
3:18 - Why These Are Special
3:52 - First Impressions
6:26 - Inside Look / Specs
12:57 - Clean Tones
14:33 - Crunch Tones
15:55 - Tone Talk
16:24 - Tuning + Trem Test
18:50 - Final Thoughts
21:48 - Case + Candy
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Hey Trogly, is the abr studs moving inside the body aswell or is there just play in those fake abr 1 screws?
The Trogly's Guitar Show I have one but without the trem unit. No need for that lol
How about using a roller bridge?
@Kenneth Liburd I'm thinking of getting one. Do you know if they stay in tune if you don't use the tremolo?
I like drinking beer and watching this guy's videos, it's therapeutic.
White Russians for me, but right with ya.....cheers!
Great minds !
Doing that as we ..ah.. respond on the interwebz many months later.
I drink sprite when I watch him
I like getting stoned and drinking beer when watching his videos. He provides the most in depth videos of Gibson products on RUclips. I always want to practice after watching them too.
I smoke weed while watching
In my humble opinion, this version of SG Standard (small pick guard, cherry red and Lyre tremolo) is THE MOST BEAUTIFUL of all SGs. I wanted this when I first laid eyes on it in 1974 and missed three opportunities to get it over the past years.
I agree
Yup 😮💨
100% agreed
Sadly it’s the most problematic as well
I prefer the stopbar version , it’s cleaner looking and exposes more of the beautiful wood grain . I hope to catch one on sale around the holidays but , the seldom go on sale !
This reorganized Gibson line is looking good. If only they'd gone bankrupt sooner!
But gibson makes a lot of good money
@@wolfgangwolfdogplaysguitar701 they went bankrupt in 2018 and decided to focus on only musical instruments after that
@@juliancarreon5569 And it worked, apparently. My 2020 Explorer is one bit of evidence.
@@Synathidy yea honestly wish I had the money for one, they're still expensive but good guitars nonetheless
I wanted to buy one of these Gibson SG Standard '61 Maestro Vibrola in Vintage Cherry for a while. After watching your video on this guitar i was totally discouraged from making my purchase due to you not being able to keep it in tune. But I went down to my local Guitar center here in Las Vegas and they had one in stock. I held it, the neck is outstanding the fret work is wonderful, the wood grain and color were so beautiful. I tuned it up and played a few cords and check the tuning, for sure it was out of tune. I fooled around trying to keep it in tune for three hours and became totally discouraged because this guitar was beautiful. So I did the only reasonable thing, I said to the salesman I am going to flip this Guitar Center pick, "blank side it stays here written side I buy it". It landed on written side so home with me it went, and boy am I glad it did. The next day I set out to find out why it wouldn't stay in tune and I discovered why, (fixed it) and now it's hard to knock it out of tune. First the tuning keys were lose and the screws holding the tuners on were striped from the factory, so i fixed that. Second the angle on the Vibrola is wrong from the factory, you need to tweak the angle and shim the Vibrola slightly, the E-string should not be touching the trem bar while in the resting position. Now polish the frets and do a complete set up. This guitar now when using the Vibrola as intended will stay in tune wonderfully. This guitar is a great guitar and if you take the time and put in the work to set it up properly, YOU WILL LOVE THIS GUITAR! I think that from the factory they just assemble the parts and are done, not realizing or having the time that it needs to make this fine guitar function together as a whole instrument. Glad I took the time and made the purchase. Please let your viewers know this is an amazing Gibson Guitar after the corrections are made. I Have no connection with Gibson and I am not a professional Luthier, so if i can fix it this guitar is fixable.
Thank you
Thank you @MPNNag - your comment should be highlighted!
Thank you
I just bought one of these guitars brand new. I’ve had it about a month , and I have to say , I haven’t had a problem with it staying in tune or with any noise from the vibrola. I really love it.
Hi Austin. Just thanking you for putting this video up a year ago. All this info you put into this video enabled me to confidently buy one here in Australia, without flying blind on what I was getting.
Dude, there are no reviews as in-depth as yours. Outstanding job
I bought the stopbar version of this a few months ago. They're wonderful guitars. The '61 pickups are definitely voiced correctly for classic and hard rock. They have less top end and are warmer compared to the normal pickups. Also plays beautifully, came factory with a nearly bottomed out bridge setup, low action and no buzz. Waited 7 years to upgrade from my G400, this guitar didn't disappoint.
Going to get that one as well🙌
Nice! I always enjoyed my G400 worn but last year I upgraded as well and my 2017 SG Standard is nothing short of perfection for me on a guitar. Even my 2018 SG Faded runs laps around the G400, and I reiterate my love for the Epiphone!
I’ve wanted a reissue since they came out but I’m still a little bit leery of pulling the trigger , 2K is nothing to sneeze at !
Trogly. I’m so happy you’re reviewing this. I’m so happy. Omg I love you you’re my hero
Thank you for taking your time to put this review up. It definitely helped me a lot. I'll pass the vibrola and go for the one with the stopbar.
Nice review. I love my my 61 SG with a hard stop. Had it for one a year now, and it's my favorite.
TROGY does it again! Another SG has me drooling on my keyboard!🤤 😄
Just bought one of these!
This is the best review on RUclips,glad I came across it
Just got a Les Paul Goldtop Classic last week. The dream guitar acquired. Could not be happier.
I just bought the stop bar version and it is incredible and it’s absolutely gorgeous!
Im going to publicly say it: i love u man
Don't we all?
Who doesnt
Comming out.
"Flippy Whippy" ?? This guy is an absolute madman, and I love it. Subscribed.
Bought it. Its great and it stays in tune.
It’s about time Gibson started offering this “Original Series” product line. Customers have been asking for it for a long time. Thank God Henry J. is history.
I have one as well and the neck is taking me time to adjust to.... it does not feel like a 61 profile at all but it is very pretty to look at and the construction is FLAWLESS... I wanted one since the 2013 original II where I missed out. Incredible review. Very well done
I loved the intro, it sounded great !
I just picked up one of these, blown away! NO NECK DIVE! The tailpiece adds just enough weight to prevent this, super well balanced and plays more like a LP.
Same here. Got one yesterday. Tried this one plus a sideways plus a regular stoptail and this one sounded the best by far. Plus the first SG I've ever owned that doesn't neck dive! I'm in heaven!!! I don't have any tuning issues. Guessing I got a well cut nut and no noise at all from the bridge when moving the whammy
Owned a few SGs with a stopbar and went down this rabbit hole to find out if the maestro vibrola even things out. I love SGs but they’re suicidal with their damn neck dive lol
Superb guitar review and the spec’d our portion was really cool to see. I bought a 61 standard recently right before they announced their big comeback and it’s absolutely incredible. It has stop bar tailpiece which I like a lot better than the tremolo unit. It sounds almost too good to be true through an orange amp and some really good pedals especially an Bogner overdrive or a tube screamer or a Ratt or the best I’ve heard so far, a germanium fuzz face with a sub octave or octave up pedal. It’s also super easy to play. The neck is super comfortable. I was always a Strat guy but now I only want to play my SG.
Gibson are doing the right thing and I couldn't be happier about it. The future looks good for these legendary guitars.
Hell yeah! Great sounding beautiful guitars
Just bought one last week..tuning is fine, I use it as I would use a bigsby, the occasional warble..these are great guitars, for players.
Best review I've seen on this hands down. Thank you. I'm so sick of looking up guitar reviews only to get bombarded with a million fucking sales pitches from Gibson and their dealers.
Excellent and honest review. Kudos.
awesome vid once again!
Big Bends Nut Sauce really helps with tuning....no matter what guitar you play (except double locking systems).
There are a LOT of comments here about tuning issues and I have not read them all, but I did not see any of them that addressed the nut slots. When the strings are hard to get out of the nut slots as shown in the video, it doesn't take a genius to know that it will have tuning issues simply from binding in the nut slots. With or without a vibrola, that guitar wont stay in tune until the nut slots are properly cut. Any competent guitar tech could tweak those slots in about 15 minutes (if that) and the 95% of the tuning problem would be solved. I had one of these - a 2003 historic - and once my tech did a bit of filing on the slots it was beautiful. That is the one guitar out of probably 150-200 I've owned I frequently wish I'd never let go. Id soooo love to see a redo of this review with properly cut nut slots.
That being said, this is still an AAA+ review. VERY nice job Trog!
SGs in general aren't as stable because of the thin neck. Just pulling it gently across the body by fretting too hard will take it slightly out of tune.
Trogly is the man !!! If you have any concerns on a guitar just watch his show . At the end you will know if you want it or not!
Before you give up on the tuning instability, try opening up the grooves in the nut-you mentioned they seemed to be tight-and the bridge. Those are really the only places the strings can hang up. A little pencil lead in the grooves will help too, or something like Big Bends Nut Sauce. Locking tuners can help too-Kluson and TonePros both offer locking tuners that are direct replacements for the stock tuners. Some guitars just won’t stay in tune no matter what you do, but usually it’s the strings hanging up somewhere. Gibson used to ship their guitars with loosened truss rods-make sure the neck isn’t flexing too much. My first SG was one I bought new in 1967, and I could get better vibrato by shaking the neck than I could with the Vibrola! I didn’t know about lubricating the saddles and the nut then either.
My favorite SG model!
Yes its the same. But that sharp angel is made to create tension on the neck against the tross rod. So u have a more stable neck i think. Try to adjust the action hight and the tail piece to get a good tension for better stability
That is STUNNING!
April 21,2024 I have a nice a 61 reissue SG,with no tailpiece,and replaced the nut with a compensated nut,that fixed the tuning issues wonderfully.
A brilliant review. I’ll probably never see one, let alone, own one, but they look and sound really good.
NICE! I've always wanted one with a Maestro on it.
i don't really watch guitar reviews but this one is very good review. Thank you
Leaning towards one of these SGs (standard) as my next guitar.
I bought an SG. When wearing a strap the neck dive was so bad I had to send it back. It was beautiful, sounded great. Couldn't play it while standing.
Harrison/Ham used this tremolo unit on their SG. I’m pretty sure it works fine as a “serious gigging instrument”
And they were the same guitar!
@@Vincentlpp08 exactly
Gibson has had issues tooling the Vibrola with the right break over in recent years compared to the early units. In the late 50's Gibson made tuneomatics with rounded bottoms at either end, subsequently they utilized domed thumbwheels so the bridge would rock like on an old Gretsch. As noted, much of the binding is at the nut and tough to get around. Nice review as always!
Frank Marino from Montreal use to play that type of SG with the Vibrola and there is few tricks to keep the guitar in almost perfect "in tune conditions ". String(very light) gage is one of these tricks. The nut grooves is an other trick. I really dig this model❤. Thanks for the video
One can always go for the Derek Trucks style mod...remove the arm and "spring" (bent metal) and replace with a stop bar tail. Then you can keep the remaining metal plate screwed into the top for looks.
Awesome indepth video of an awesome Guitar - Some great detail there - Thank you
6:18 When your crush brushes against you...
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This model just screams for a roller bridge. Thanks for reviewing the guitar!
definitely
Try TonePros
I have a SG with a Vibrola and with a roller bridge. It works great
I seen a vintage vibrola taken off a 60's sg and it does have the ground lead wire there but the hole is very small but in the same position.
This is a nice model.
I like the way Derek Trucks opted for a non functioning trem on his SG just because they look so cool. They do look the part. ;) Have a sound weekend Austin lad.
Good to know that the hole is there and that you can not remove and change the bridge to a hard tail later, unlike the vintage models. In case you ended up not enjoying the trem and buying it used in the future.
My 2018 v has that rounded edge thing where its round past the edge of the fretboard and it's super comfortable. Until now that's the only guitar I've ever heard of with that on it
I f*ckin' love it. Best sounding guitar on your channel in a while.
Spot on about the neck profile. I ordered the stopbar version of this, and the neck felt pretty fat for a "slim taper". Thats what made me take it back. Ill have to consider possibly getting an older "Reissue", rather than a "61 Standard".
Thanks for this definitive video
What a beautiful guitar
This is the SG Standard 61 variant I've been eyeing down, primarily because I find the Maestro aesthetically gorgeous, and it eliminates (or discourages) neck dive. I'm used to Les Pauls, so I don't mind if an SG is up to 8 and a half pounds. I'd take the arm off immediately, I wouldn't use it - I just want the other benefits. :)
Edit: I noticed the Delrin DAVA Jazz Grip pick... a man of culture!
You can change the nut for a graphite one and also the tune-o-matic pieces for graphite ones to stay more in tune.
Simply re-cutting it may suffice.
I got the version with no trem, it sounds great, plays great, and NO tuning stability issues.
But does it look as good?
@@edwardmaxam5415 It can't
Fix the nut, get a roller bridge or low friction bridge of some kind, locking tuners, 3 in 1 oil. That vibrola can be made to work better for sure.
Should not have to do that with a 1.700.00 dollar guitar bro unacceptable!!!! I own two pauls one from the 70s one from 2012 with no tuning issues!!!!
@@carminepettinicchio1713 Most decent guitars can always use some tweaking to make right. The more complicated, the more tweaking is needed, IMHO, and that's after 57+ years of all this ... And nowadays, $1999 is a darn good price for a set neck Gibson! The $1700 model (stop tailpiece) should be pretty simple to set up and run with. But a good guitar tech can always make almost any guitar act like a well-behaved first grader. Sorry. My wife is a teacher ...
@@carminepettinicchio1713 Yeah what Tonetwisters said. It's not the price tag that determines that it needs all those modifications, you can expect that with most tremolo/vibrato guitars if you want them to stay in tune. Consider when you see someone playing with trem guitar live, you don't know how much care went into setting that guitar up. I assure you Strat users who utilize a floating trem take great care adjusting the trem to exact pitch bends when fully dived or pulled up and so their claw is angled to pull less pressure against the high strings, on top of all the mods I listed. The vintage "safety post" tuners with the split post are just as good as lockers for Strats so a lot of people don't change them but other than that. Doesn't matter how much it costs, what matters is it has a trem, makes it way higher maintenance which is why many prefer hardtail. I say just have both.
@@joelmiddaugh8229 No problems with trem on evh guitars or charvels
@@george25199 man don't play your g string goes a cent or two sharp when you dive bomb just like the rest of us. You ain't special cuz you Rob Zombie.
It looks exacly like the SG George Harrison used
It basically is, it’s the closest they’ve ever gotten to it
And Frank Zappa minus the extra switches
it's more akin to Mike Campbell from Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers IMO
@@KeeperOfPoops Didn't Tom also have one?
FWIW I own this exact guitar @20 digits next to troglys.Same year,same batch etc. You just cant expect tuning stability after disassembly of a guitar with new strings and a vibbrola. Lube the nut, stretch and break the strings in for @ 1 hour. and it will be rock solid tuning stability.. Mine is as solid as any guitar I have owned. Any guitar with a trem requires a bit of extra work and break in for optimum tuning stability. Once that vibrola is removed it takes a bit of time to move back to its stable position until removed again. Like I said, FWIW from 50 years of working on trem fitted examples.Your mileage may vary..And Trogly you are getting better on the guitar every month, you must be practicing a lot, you are making great gains, keep it up and dont forget to work on your RIGHT hand also.....as important if not more than your left hand! I am not even an SG kind of player but this model was a keeper the first time I played it, I REALLY enjoy mine.
I found out that the lyre vibrola functions PERFECTLY with a roller bridge, so if you wanna use it a lot i suggest you swap out that ABR-1... Also, i think i'm going against the tide by saying that i like better the ABR with the studs ;)
EVERY behind-the-bridge trem should have a roller bridge.
Love the finish of the guitar...
I actually like the color variety on the Epiphones much better. Neither Gibson nor Epiphone offers it, but a natural sanded finish would look awesome.
_NoYeezusPlease_ I like the smell of the Nitro finish too. Adds to the experience!
Beautiful Guitar . I own an original 1965 SG with the same maestro tremolo unit and Surprisingly I have no tuning issues when used for shimmers. Maybe it takes time for all the metal parts to break in and to find their "equilibrium" . Just a theory. Would be a shame not to use such a beautiful accessory that adds so much mojo to the tone..... Once again a very informative video
A lot of folks forget that when reviewing brand new guitars . If a 55 year old guitar has been played & well looked after , odds on it will feel nicer "at home" in the hand , and all the components would have worn in smoothly.
Want want want want want!!!!
That's my Dream Guitar!
It`s got the ferrules under the bridge and the small headstock because its not a 61 reissue , it`s a "Standard 61" , the proper 61Ri was available as well that year if I remember rightly for a higher premium and has the direct to wood ABR, 1 piece body (though that looked 1 piece too) , nickel hardware, large headstock etc..
Really want one of these. Personally, I don't think you can comment on tuning stability without having it professionally setup - it's like buying a car and complaining the seat is too far from the wheel; you need to dial it in.
Yeah plus it probably needs broken in some
Pretty sweet example . Good dive into the history ... not so much the trem system. ha ha Wiggling !! Thats going to rip the bridge right off ~! !!! .. Good show trogly
Vibrolas have a rather bad reputation, but i really love them. Just make sure your saddles and nut slots are smooth and help with some nut sauce (ho ho ho) if necessary and those will work perfectly fine. I have an SG Cpt. Kirk Signature and a Firebird, both with factory Vibrolas and while the SG needed some love, the Firebird came with a perfectly fine and stable set up (which probably has to do with the strings running straight past the nut, like on Fenders, opposed to the open book 3 and 3 pegs per side design of the SG and other Gibsons)
Of course it`s not a Floyd Rose, but as good as any other old school tremolo system.
Also i think that a wiggling bridge is more of a good thing because it moves back to position whereas wounded strings tend to get "stuck" on a groove the more they move across the bridge.
Hence the Jazzmaster bridge, where the movement is an integral part of the trem unit.
Cheers
I hear you on the tuning issues, but I have a couple of rock solid gigging machines so I'll still get one of these just for fun 😁
I have been waiting for this video 🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸
Thanks! Very informative.
Needs a Min-E-Tune system that's always on! ;) It is in dire need of a roller bridge. I doubt that a professional musician would ever buy this for gigging. The classic rockers that had these bought them used because that's what they could afford, and took off the vibrola to make them useful. These are better suited for us hobbyists who want a beautiful, classic looking guitar to noodle around with. BTW, that dive-bomb explosion was hilarious! I nearly spit out my coffee when I saw that. Great video, as usual!
For some reason I never liked sgs, but if they have a maestro I love them
This is exactly why the copyright strikes on videos with other peoples songs being played is good. Great job Trogly!!!!
It does put more motivation into learning the 'core' principles of the guitar instead of just new songs! I like my two new chords haha
A roller bridge would help a lot. Yes your bridge is rocking back and forth. I think it's mostly the wound strings that cause the problem.
I just got a Gibson SG 61 last week. Like with all 3x3 headstocks, the first thing you gotta do is take string files to the nut and lightly file in the direction the string goes from the nut to the tuning machine post. Once I did that it is staying in tune like a champ :) Enjoy and have fun
I’m now saving money for it do u recommend me to continue saving to buy it or not ?
This guitar is looking good
Thanks for doing this. Personally like that gibson is releasing standard models with trems.
It's the tight nut slots that keep you from maintaining tune. Also, put some graphite in the nut slots after you get them to the proper dimension.
Thank you for such an in-depth review. The guitar looks great and was thoroughly dissected and shown off for the most discerning consumers. However, I'd like to contest what you said about how you'd recommend the stop-bar version as the serious gigging guitar.
I find that if you cut the nut and clean the bridge saddles well, add a bit of lube such as Big Bends or something similar, the vibrola holds well in tuning. I wouldn't say that my SG Original makes me more nervous than my stop-bar Les Paul in regards to overall tuning and reliability. I'd liken it to the stability of a Bigsby. Most usage on the bar normally doesn't bring the guitar out of tune enough to notice. If you dive-bomb or do something more dramatic, then perhaps certain strings may noticeably be a little sharper, but not to the point where I had a glaringly out of tune guitar for the rest of the song. Most people, I would assume, would use it as you suggested, as a more of a shimmer vibrato, like a Bigsby, rather than a Strat or Floyd Rose. In those cases, mine stays in tune without any trouble.
I find that it's best when the strings are not brand spanking new, nor are they old. I just wanted to put in my experience with the vibrola so viewers who are more partial to the trem systems aren't scared to rely on this as a serious gigging or main guitar. As long as the user sets it up well and realizes the limitations of this particular trem unit, I don't think they'll have to worry much.
Yeah I didn’t really like that comment. How could a $2000 guitar not be a serious gigging guitar? It’s top of the line
The flexing bridge posts are normal as it is all fixed metal parts leveraging the strings. The CS 61 Vibrola reissues with LP truss rod cover (of which I have tried a few & owned a couple different ones) are screwed directly into the body and yes it does seem scary that the bridge flexes. It is a VERY cool vibe guitar, especially the CS VOS faded cherry finish that has been running for years around $4000, but objectively/technically not a good guitar with the Vibrola. Aside from tuning, the Vibrola system can also seriously reduce sustain. Using the infamous 12th fret pluck G string sustain test, it can be no better than dropping a metal bolt onto a wooden desk. You can hear that the sound in the demo, while cool, it is pretty compressed/muted. Even with tone controls wide open. Great if you want that and the AC/DC sound but very restrictive. If you want the look, feel, shimmering (but also tuning instability :-) you go for this model. Maybe more of a collectors guitar. Otherwise go with a fixed bridge version. For what it’s worth this model does appear great value given how similar it is to the CS version twice it’s price!
another great review,an the dive bomb was hilarious
Trems work best on the Gibson with a roller bridge. Don't forget to make the nut vibrato friendly - slots not tight on the strings and lubed with graphite.
Great review. I have been trying to decide if i am going to purchase a firebird or SG. After watching your review I am leaning toward the SG, if Gibson had kept the banjo style tuners on the new firefird, that would be my choice. I will look for an older firebird which is ok. Being left handed limits me, but i do like the new SG.
I don’t care much if it throws it out of tune. I really love the Lyre vibrola.
Yeah plus it’s not meant for dive bombs. Just to give the sound a vibrating sound
Thanks! That is a great review!
abr1 leaning over is a concern
🤔 Yeah , was thinking the same ! I have seen rocking bridges on old Fender Mustangs ,but I'm sure that Tune-o-matic shouldn't be moving at all !
Instead of buying the vibrato SG, purchase the SG Standard and add a Derek Trucks Vibrato Cover. I bought two from Philadelphia Luthier (Faux Lyre Vibrato Cover). It doesn't have the Gibson logo on the cover, but it's made of heavy brass with a chrome finish. It solved the "neck dive" problem of my two SGs. However, it does add a lot of weight to the body so don't be surprised.
I have a '69 and owned a few with Lyre's (Leer is always how I pronounced it and my Gibson buddy who worked there, so who knows). They never stay in tune. It's why most people take the arm off or the whole unit. If you find one with nylon saddles, they seem to stay in tune better as well.
YES!!!! Bring back the ebony tailpiece!!!!!! I'm almost ready to have a luthier just make one for me.
Yep and I have a guy who will do one perfectly..
There's now a Junior with this trem unit being produced, but it's a custom shop signature guitar (Brain Ray) so you'll have to spend big bucks to get it.
great demo, want to see the les paul 50 vs 60s!!
Roller bridge and lube the nut slots also locking tuners will fix that tuning stability on any guitar
Need more sg reviews.
Nice Review, but I thought I might add the ABR1 is non-wired just in case you want to add period correct nylon saddles to the bridge like the 1964's (George Harrison). Also there are some places that make a nice wide bevel 6-hole pick guard, and of course changing the truss rod cover the CreamTone 50's style TRC. You can do all three mods for about $80. As for the ABR1 adjustment post ,I opted for the Faber ABR1 post conversion that screws directly into the wood. This eliminates the movement caused by the stock bridge anchors and the instrument stays in tune much better.
Try some nut sauce on the slots of the nut. Also , you can lightly swipe a file over the bridge slot. Sometimes when they make those bridge slots if it’s not smooth. A slight use of a file to smooth
it may also help. I’ve seen that work before for a Gibson g string that won’t stay in tune.
2 more payments and it's coming home with me ! Always wanted an sg. Can't wait.
I think they got a bit more true to 61' specs with the neck. You often hear "60's" neck, but when speaking of SG's, their neck profile changed through the 60's. That flat feeling neck you're thinking of didn't come along until the mid-60's, generally after it lost the "Les Paul" label.
In case you haven't figured it out, yet, your bridge is moving because your strings are sticking in the slots. File your nut and bridge slots a size over your string gauge and lubricate both, and enjoy!