Honest Review Part 2: Getting the Gibson Good Enough
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- Опубликовано: 10 ноя 2020
- Setting up the new 2020 Gibson Original Collection SG '61 with Maestro Vibrola. Getting it ready for real playing tests.
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I bought one of these last year and did the very same set up tweaks and 50s wiring as you did and then stumbled upon your video. Cheers
One way to stop those saddles from falling all over the floor (if you mess with them) I'd to do it over towel.
PS you can address the bridge post wiggle by putting some teflon plumber's thread tape on the post threads before putting them back in the bushings. Just like a Strat trem bar. So this can be fixed cheaply and easily without going to TonePros or Faber.
In the past I've found that TonePros posts fit in Gibson inserts without wiggle. So no guitar surgery is needed. And a little teflon tape there can make it perfect if needed.
fun fact there is teflon in your blood, just bleed onto the post threads before putting them back in
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I guess I'm one of the few who prefer having the highs start to roll off as I drop the vol. I've always been that way with both HBs and SCs.
In fact, I'm going to remove the tone circuit from the bridge pickup on one of my Teles. I never, ever, need to roll-off the neck PU and like the perceived increase in fatness when the bridge tone is rolled-off a bit.
I’m saving for one of these. I was going for the standard because I like the big guard and thought the thinner neck you have been a dealbreaker. But I played both side by side and the neck wasn’t a big enough difference to me to matter. But I liked the pickups more than the standard and the case was a big difference. I would have bought a hard shell case with the standard and swapped the pickups. But the price would have been the same as getting a 61 and I can get the maestro bridge that I love the look of.
I think thats a great sounding SG! I like the pick ups. Bright with out muddyness!
SGs are rarely muddy. They tend to be more midrangey/toppy and in your face as compared to a Les Paul.
They make ABR1 to Nashville adapters studs that you can screw in there with red loctite and they won't move nomore it works just like the old Ones
There's another good name for a punk rock band: "Flipping The G-Saddle."
just bought one of these the only difference is on mine is the logo on the headstock is slightly higher but i don't know why this is any info would be nice
I think I will stick with getting a budget SG with a vibrola,simply because of the bigger saddle & bridge studs,and better tuning stability, actually looking at one that has a viper type body it’s an IYV with a vibrola and is only $206 on Amazon,I’ve had good results with other guitars by IYV,just letting others know you don’t have to spend a fortune on a guitar today,budget guitars have come a long way,CNC machines pop out exact replicas,if I the afford the real one, I have one of those two.
So would you recommend a whole new TonePro bridge or just the posts and keep the stock bridge? If you recommend a new bridge overall, which one would you say works best? Cheers
At least the bridge and the posts. as the tolerances on the stock bridge/post aren't great. Hopefully the TP posts won't have slop in the stock inserts. I will find out soon.
I'm waiting to hear back from TonePros about which bridges/posts work with this newer Gibson's inserts.
The slop really only applies to the Maestro version - the non-trem Standard should be OK with the stock bridge posts, in which case any of the TP AVR-2s should fit on the existing posts. Note: should. I don't have confirmation from TP yet.
I'll have more info, well, when I have it.
The Callaham way: ruclips.net/video/qOz5OSMheOg/видео.html
Every time I mess with the saddles of a tunomatic I end up with rattle on the bridge, some times is inmidiate, some times comes out days or weeks later. what can you do to avoid that ?
Make sure the saddle is seated down in the slot. They can rise up on the bridge. If the bridge has a wire that can come slightly loose. A very small dab of clear nail polish is your friend.
2:05 - gonna have to give the '50s wiring a try....
Pot load dampens a resonant peak in the trebles, and the '50s wiring progressively decouples the tone pot's load from the pickup, increasing the treble peak a bit, which compensates a bit for cable capacitance losses....
There's another benefit I'll show in an upcoming video. As you turn down the volume, the tone circuit does less. So you can have a bright low volume clean and a smooth full volume lead, with the proper amp.
Watch Page in the Earl's Court concert. Or BB King in his prime.
Though BB didn't use the '50s wiring for most of his career, Live at the Regal is the shit.
Just got done rolling this through all my guitars (except the Strat - will wait until new strings for that one). Massive improvement to the utility of the volume knob. With a '60s Marshall-ish amp, it lets you do about everything from the guitar. Add a boost of some stripe to get further into the dirt, and/or a fuzz, and you have quite a versatile setup. *This* is what has been missing in my arsenal for years, after trying to compensate with treble pass caps on the volume controls to help de-muddify the lower volume ranges....
Here's a great video (from a series of great videos by A2 Guitars) on this:
ruclips.net/video/uRUobVmNKko/видео.html
Is there any way to block that vibrato & make it fixed?
Sure. Buy the SG with a stoptail.
Pretty disgusting actually to see those posts wiggling like that on a $2100 SG and why in the hell couldn't they see to it that the pickups followed the plane of the strings properly?? WTF. Wow. I'm glad I watched this because I was ready to buy one of these. The TP bridges are great of course. I have one on my stock Heritage H150 but I'm not spending that amount for an SG that needs more $$ for upgrades right out of the box. I live 150 miles from the nearest reputable luthier if I screwed something up trying to fix it.
Thanks for this video it was a great help.
Not gonna lie man, I never knew this wasn’t supposed to happen. I’ve played Gretsch with bigsbys and SGs with vibrolas and I figured that’s just what it did. Picked up a ‘22 SG specifically for the vibrola and it doesn’t cause me any guff. To be honest though, I’m also the kinda guy that prefers a 6 screw bridge on my strats, so I’m typically wrong about how things are supposed to perform vs how they actually perform in real life.
Beautiful guitar but why would you buy a guitar with that bridge problem. WTFUDGE GIBSON......?