It is a great high school offense, especially with smaller schools. High School classifications can be odd. In my state we have 7 classifications. My high school is a 7a with 1300 students. Almost every other school in our 16 team 7a classification has 2000 plus students. I have seen time and time again my local high school try to get into spread shootouts with them and get beat by 40+ points. The last time we were good we ran the wishbone. Go figure. Smaller schools should run offenses like the Flexbone and Wishbone. It is the only hope. Army, Navy, and Air Force prove these points with less talented teams, but are still able to compete with teams with 4 and 5 stars players. It takes a lot of time for these teams to game plan against plus it helps you neutralize their superior talent.
Thank you for this excellent presentation Jason. We (our family) have been passionate Army fans since 1926. My Dad, Charles was USMA (1930). My brother, Jerry was USMA (1955)...I, too, was privileged to be an Army Officer (1966-1968). You video, here, clearly shows the nuances of the great Army Triple Option...a style of football which we believe is the purest in the country.
John...Might i also suggest checking out Hawaii offenses from 1988-1995, when Paul Johnson ran the Spread Option(variation of Flex-bone), AFA btwn 1982-95(Ken Hatfield/Fisher DeBerry-HC), Calif. De La Salle btwn 1992-2004(Bob Ladouceur-HC) & Georgia Southern(1997-2001)/USNA(2002-2007), Georgia Tech(2008-2018)...All coached by Paul Johnson. From 2007-2022, Johnson "disciple" Ken Niumatalolo was USNA HC....
Thanks for this breakdown. I know this is two years old, but I thought I would comment on the first play anyway. I think this is just a fullback dive instead of a trap. The guard and center execute a fold block. To some extent, I acknowledge that I may be arguing semantics, but given that this is presumably the first play call on the opening series, this is a statement to the defense--we will run our fullback! Trap plays usually seek to widen a player out of position (on this play, if it was a trap, it would seek to widen the 4 or 4i technique DT). This play is just a mano-y-mano gut punch. I coached for many years in small towns in western kansas. Stopping this offense is tricky!
Coach in your history of the Wishbone there is one Big exception about it. Bear Bryant's wishbone teams. They threw and hurt defenses from that formation (they used a couple of others including what we call the Flexbone formation). They put three QBs in the NFL. Bryant's Wishbone was a passing threat. The games are here to explore. The Trap option is a wonderful offense as well. Used by East Carolina and Syracuse.
Coach outstanding job! No, No, Wishbone. Played for the University of the Pacific(Stockton, Ca) We ran the run and shoot, west coast offense. We lacked a true 'QB', Randall Cunningham style QB-Who we played against us and ate us up as we lost using the WB! In the spring of 1985, Coach Bob Cope changed the offense to the WB and recruited JC Qbs to fit the new offense. Hugh Jackson, now a NFL coach was our QB. All of us WRs were out of jobs. We dominated the first three games because of the extreme style difference. However, by the fourth game, all the next opponents made their adjustments and we were cooked! After two years running the WB offense Coach Cope was fired. The replacement coach went back to the West Coast offense until John Gruden, then TE coach broke a few NCAA rules and which consequently killed the program. Flexbone would have been a much better alternative!
The wishbone doesnt let your backs hit the line as fast, and gives the defense more time to read and react to your blocking. The flexbone also functions kind of like a doubles 4wr spread in some ways, and the wishbone would not allow the skill players those favorable match ups they get with motion, and making the defense tip their hand with symmetrical formations.
Play 1: It looks like 3 is trying to get up to the second level to push the backside ILB away from the play. He does cut off the Will. Play 3: the play side end and Sam did an amazing job of beating their blocks and stringing it out. Number 6 (ILB? SS?) of course still had to make an amazing play. That was an excellent play choice for Army and Navy needed all their skill and luck to stop it.
@@cfbaddict7284 YPC doesn't tell the whole story for this offense. You have to watch the game to see the impact. (I'm not saying you didn't watch the game)
You should Google the 80s Wishbone flexbone and check out Arkansas's flexbone check out a Oklahoma's Wishbone which was the best and check out smu's Wishbone and they passed out the wishbone in Nebraska's Wishbone
I think you definitely need to run Midline - It can work against everything. I'd also run a toss or sweep and then a counter. Then add in a play off the sweep and the counter and a pop pass off the midline. Just my thoughts.
we're gonna run this straight at you and there ain't thing 1 you can do about it, football is still football isn't it??? now your considered a good running team if you can average 200 yrds. a game that doesn't sound like all that much, i remember teams averaging over 350 a game, they would literally pound it and pound it until you were decimated
Wanna see a high school decimate another team with this offense? Search Downs Tri Valley vs Auburn 2015 IHSA state championship. Tri Valley was at one point statistically the WORST team in Illinois back 20 years ago from what i heard.
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In the 1980's and 1990's Nebraska had ran the I formation option winnings 3 National Championship.
We run this in high school. Made it to state 3 times in the last 4yrs with this
It's unstoppable when done correctly!
What state ?
It is a great high school offense, especially with smaller schools. High School classifications can be odd. In my state we have 7 classifications. My high school is a 7a with 1300 students. Almost every other school in our 16 team 7a classification has 2000 plus students. I have seen time and time again my local high school try to get into spread shootouts with them and get beat by 40+ points. The last time we were good we ran the wishbone. Go figure. Smaller schools should run offenses like the Flexbone and Wishbone. It is the only hope. Army, Navy, and Air Force prove these points with less talented teams, but are still able to compete with teams with 4 and 5 stars players. It takes a lot of time for these teams to game plan against plus it helps you neutralize their superior talent.
My high school runs it. You would think it's so predictable but it works.
Under center formations were the best
Thank you for this excellent presentation Jason. We (our family) have been passionate Army fans since 1926. My Dad, Charles was USMA (1930). My brother, Jerry was USMA (1955)...I, too, was privileged to be an Army Officer (1966-1968). You video, here, clearly shows the nuances of the great Army Triple Option...a style of football which we believe is the purest in the country.
Really enjoyed this break down and love the Flexbone for my 4th grade tackle team. Would really enjoy if you did more of these on the Flex
I am now planning an Air Force one! Great bowl win over Washington State!
@@FootballCoachingBrotherhood Do you have Air Force offense? Full games offense?
Thank you very much this video was great I love option football.. a huge Oklahoma fan going all the way back to Thomas Lott and Jemele Holloway
appreciate it!
John...Might i also suggest checking out Hawaii offenses from 1988-1995, when Paul Johnson ran the Spread Option(variation of Flex-bone), AFA btwn 1982-95(Ken Hatfield/Fisher DeBerry-HC), Calif. De La Salle btwn 1992-2004(Bob Ladouceur-HC) & Georgia Southern(1997-2001)/USNA(2002-2007), Georgia Tech(2008-2018)...All coached by Paul Johnson. From 2007-2022, Johnson "disciple" Ken Niumatalolo was USNA HC....
Paul Johnson explained the formation is derived from the run and shoot, but he needed to make it so he could run the triple option out of it.
I wish Ga Tech would bring this back.
Thanks for this breakdown. I know this is two years old, but I thought I would comment on the first play anyway. I think this is just a fullback dive instead of a trap. The guard and center execute a fold block. To some extent, I acknowledge that I may be arguing semantics, but given that this is presumably the first play call on the opening series, this is a statement to the defense--we will run our fullback! Trap plays usually seek to widen a player out of position (on this play, if it was a trap, it would seek to widen the 4 or 4i technique DT). This play is just a mano-y-mano gut punch. I coached for many years in small towns in western kansas. Stopping this offense is tricky!
Coach in your history of the Wishbone there is one Big exception about it. Bear Bryant's wishbone teams. They threw and hurt defenses from that formation (they used a couple of others including what we call the Flexbone formation). They put three QBs in the NFL. Bryant's Wishbone was a passing threat. The games are here to explore.
The Trap option is a wonderful offense as well. Used by East Carolina and Syracuse.
6:00 minutes coach Smith. Okay okay lol Great video , I gotta remember where it starts to show the Head Man.
Coach outstanding job! No, No, Wishbone. Played for the University of the Pacific(Stockton, Ca) We ran the run and shoot, west coast offense. We lacked a true 'QB', Randall Cunningham style QB-Who we played against us and ate us up as we lost using the WB! In the spring of 1985, Coach Bob Cope changed the offense to the WB and recruited JC Qbs to fit the new offense. Hugh Jackson, now a NFL coach was our QB. All of us WRs were out of jobs. We dominated the first three games because of the extreme style difference. However, by the fourth game, all the next opponents made their adjustments and we were cooked! After two years running the WB offense Coach Cope was fired. The replacement coach went back to the West Coast offense until John Gruden, then TE coach broke a few NCAA rules and which consequently killed the program. Flexbone would have been a much better alternative!
Worked on Alabama football vs Georgia southern for a bit
We ran this in my club in Australia for a very long time. A lot defences couldn’t stop it
Art Craig has a true pistol flexbone offense. Has some really good stuff available too.
The wishbone doesnt let your backs hit the line as fast, and gives the defense more time to read and react to your blocking. The flexbone also functions kind of like a doubles 4wr spread in some ways, and the wishbone would not allow the skill players those favorable match ups they get with motion, and making the defense tip their hand with symmetrical formations.
Play 1: It looks like 3 is trying to get up to the second level to push the backside ILB away from the play. He does cut off the Will.
Play 3: the play side end and Sam did an amazing job of beating their blocks and stringing it out. Number 6 (ILB? SS?) of course still had to make an amazing play. That was an excellent play choice for Army and Navy needed all their skill and luck to stop it.
Check out Oklahoma's Wishbone and they had a great tight end by the name of Keith Jackson
They destroyed Michigan with this.
Wrong, armys offense had its worst ypc in 3 years against Michigan, Michigan's offense is just dreadful
@@cfbaddict7284 YPC doesn't tell the whole story for this offense. You have to watch the game to see the impact. (I'm not saying you didn't watch the game)
@@tufoinproductions True, they should've beat Michigan coming from a Michigan fan to be honest but YPC is good at showing overall effectiveness
A good discipline team will beat a good athletic team most of the time.
I would love to see army vs Alabama
Bama would still win but Army could make it a hell game
Flexbone? I think the formation is run more like a Double Wing T offense. It requires the wing to motion back to be tailback
3 plays 7 yards 0 first downs but good blocking tho really giving the D coach something to think about.
You should Google the 80s Wishbone flexbone and check out Arkansas's flexbone check out a Oklahoma's Wishbone which was the best and check out smu's Wishbone and they passed out the wishbone in Nebraska's Wishbone
Any suggestions on where to start as far as an install if your thinking of running this at the high school level ?
I think you definitely need to run Midline - It can work against everything. I'd also run a toss or sweep and then a counter. Then add in a play off the sweep and the counter and a pop pass off the midline. Just my thoughts.
Three four with the quarterback the two Flex wings and the running back assignments
So it would be the middle linebacker defense and an outside linebacker and the backside defensive end
A little too much talking for me.
Looks like the LT is engaged in what would be an illegal block in the NFL? Am I missing something?
Inside Zone Bend
Defenses wouldn't know what to do.... recently notre dame defense stuffed this offense
we're gonna run this straight at you and there ain't thing 1 you can do about it, football is still football isn't it??? now your considered a good running team if you can average 200 yrds. a game that doesn't sound like all that much, i remember teams averaging over 350 a game, they would literally pound it and pound it until you were decimated
Wanna see a high school decimate another team with this offense? Search Downs Tri Valley vs Auburn 2015 IHSA state championship. Tri Valley was at one point statistically the WORST team in Illinois back 20 years ago from what i heard.
It’s a wing T I think.
Repent of your sins and trust in jesus you will be saved
Odessa permian still runs it
Dude spit it out you talk way too slow
Bro you talk to much, just let us watch the play, keep replaying it making me wanna click off
Cyrus Grooms sorry but man this is how coaches watch film. I’m probably not even talking as much as some other coaches would!
Jason Hahnstadt no worries, just want to show my friend a quick run down on the triple option and how army does it. And we got bored real quick
You can't explain in detail about an offense as intricate as this if you don't talk. This is what coaches do.
@@BigSizzle88 pick up a ps2, buy ncaa 06 and play it. You'll get a good grasp when you actually simulate it.
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