I stopped defending Pope Francis w/ Joe Heschmeyer
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- This clip is taken from episode #229 of Pints With Aquinas live interview with Joe Heschmeyer, author of the new book, Pope Peter, about the papacy, papal infallibility, and the current crisis in the church. You can watch the full episode here: • What Does a Bad Pope M...
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Times like these we have to remember that we adore God and not the pope
Amen
Especially since infallibility deals with Pope's Teachings on Scripture & Doctrines & Not About The Person At All.
@@poetlover30 or perhaps just do away with infallibility of evil man and become a Protestant.
@@JoshuaW86 Remind me when the New Testament was canonised?
@@jackdaw6359 our new testaments are the same- you just include the apocryphal writings done before Jesus.
You / we may have stopped defending Pope Francis, but lets never stop praying for him. Amen
I'm not catholic but this is the correct response.
We do....because we're Catholic. May not like someone, or disagree, but that doesn't mean we stop being Catholic .
@@sleepinglioness5754
Awake. Your church teaches that when you die you go to pugatory! Why? Because Jesus's blood is not sufficient! I cannot imagine standing before the living God and saying that.
@@judyswiderski2682 You will though....
@@sleepinglioness5754
Prove it in scripture and not in the imagining of your own heart, which is untrustworthy. Jeremiah 17:9.
Is not that something? I am trying to warn you and you are trying to curse me. Hmmm where is Christ in that?
I try to live a life of a Catholic of the middle ages, meaning: back then, one could live their Catholic lives without even really knowing who the Pope was. It made no direct impact in their lives; they would go to Church, pay their alms, do their charity work, and pray a lot to God. And boy, in those days, did they have heretic Popes! I do the same.
The other day I finished reading Saint Theresa d'Avila's book, the Interior Castle, my memory could have betrayed me, but I don't recall her quoting her contemporary Pope. Saints did just that: they left history take good care of any Pope's reputation. If what a certain Pope said or did anything heretical, history would take good care of that.
Nowadays, we are way too much worried in being up-to-date with every gibberish that freshly came out of the Pope's mouth. It does saddens my heart, though, whenever I hear him saying unthoughtful things, while he should be defending Jesus's Church from the heresies. However, I try my best, in my humanly misery, to look at the Cross and carry on with my life, begging God's mercy.
regards from Brazil
brilliant!
That's spot on.
I stopped caring much about it all, I know that the gates of hell will not prevail and that's enough for me.
I don't know why I should justify my faith to Protestants or whatnot... This is a waste of time and energy.
God bless.
@@paixlerin2321 Yes! Understanding the Catholic Faith in light of Scripture's assurances gives us a sense of peace and confidence when it comes to scandals, great and small. God's Will is always at work. We know the ending. Just trust God and try to love as He loves.
I disagree apologetics is a waste of time, though. It is one way lost/misdirected souls can come to the fullness of Truth and Faith. Scripture admonishes us to always be prepared to give the reason for our faith (1 Peter 3:15).
John XXII was heretical, but he recanted on his deathbed. What popes are you referring to that were heretics?
@@gtaylor178 To list a few:
Benedict IX -> sold his papacy for a huge amount of money.
Sergius III -> ordered the murder of another pope, had harlots, etc
John XII -> Raped pilgrims, invoked pagan Gods
Leo X -> Killed cardinals who didn't agree with him
Alexander VI -> a convicted nepotist, made orgies (and gave rise to the Borgia family)
need more? or did you just get stuck on the phrase I said "heretical popes"? Are you a papolatrist?
Men will Always let us down, keep your eyes on Jesus Christ Our Lord. He is The Truth and The Life. Viva Cristo Rey 🙏
Amen Tony G. We have to keep our eyes on THE goal. Jesus Christ.
Jorge is NOT the prize. He is a fallen man. We all are, but seeing the leader of the RCC fall so far is especially painful. He has allowed evil to flourish in our country and around the world. Only Jesus can save us. Pray for our country and pray for the Church.
@@jghmontana2013
I pay for members of the church. I pray they will open their eyes and come to Jesus the way He wants them to come.
Ask Jesus to send the Holy Spirit. Luke 11:13. He will come and convince you of sin. As He gently brings your sins to mind, confess them to Jesus.
This will become very painful for those who believe they are basically good people. Press through. Continue until you see the vileness of the heart. Jeremiah 17:9, and your inability to save yourself. Oh, how precious His free gift will appear.
When you see, CRY OUT to Jesus to save you. Read His word. Ask the Holy Spirit to guide you into all truth.
@à la claire fontaine
Vatican Secret Societies Jesuits and the New World Order video.
I was one of those Catholic converts (of 10 years) who left the Church, shortly after Francis came back, thinking the whole church had fallen to relativism. But there was nowhere else to go. I couldn’t go back to Evangelicalism. Orthodoxy didn’t seem quite right. So, I dove into progressive Christianity because it seemed relativism was the way things were going. It was awful. So much despair. At the end of that 4 years long dark night of the soul, I went to Easter Mass and, like a prodigal daughter, realized I was home. It is Jesus in the Eucharist and the magisterial teachings of the Church that I need to cling to, through good and bad priests, bishops, cardinals AND Popes. People come and go. People let you down. God never does. I thank God and the many friends who prayed me back. Pope Francis is a scandal, and I’m sure he’s preventing people from becoming Catholic and I know he’s a reason many leave, but he won’t be Pope forever. So, if you’re Catholic, stay put, keep calm and pray on. 🙏🏻
Find a good traditional parish/ Eastern Catholic Rite, you will find support there.
Beautiful.
Welcome home sister. 🙏🏽❤️
They’re just humans, and humans fall short all the time. The Bible and Catechism of the Catholic Church are enough for me.
I love your comment so much 🥰♥️♥️ maybe try finding traditional mass? I heard it talks directly to your soul. It’s unlike any mass. I really want to find a TM in my area too.
Come on fellow Catholics, we know that God’s plan is perfect!
Let’s keep the faith, and keep on praying!!!
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Isn’t the pope appointed by god? I’m trying to figure this all out as a lowly Protestant.
@@Xymage what is and isn’t considered heresy? You mean changing the message of the gospel right? Doesn’t Catholicism change the message of the gospel (salvation by grace alone, from the sacrifice on the cross by Christ)? Is it heresy when a Protestant pushes back on new ideas? It’s okay when the new regime decides new dogma/rituals though right? Do you think every previous pope would have approved every sacrament over the last two thousand years? All seven sacraments didn’t come into existence all at once you know. Curious on some Catholic responses to these inquiries.
@@John3_16_ the texts of the 4 Gospels do not preach salvation by faith alone! Full stop doesn’t mention it. “Unless you did these things for the least of my brethren you did not do them for me. Depart into eternal fire.” Matt 25 referencing works of poverty relief. Second “Faith without works is dead, you try and show me your faith apart from your works and I by my works will show you my faith” Letter of James 1. Even Paul didn’t really teach it. “Shall we go on sinning then that Grace may abound all the more? By no means!”. So scripture clearly testifies that faith which doesn’t result in the works of over turning sin in our lives, the work of loving the poor, the work of prayer, developing a deeper relationship with God, and in summary the work of cooperating with Gods free gift of grace and forgiveness so that it makes a real incarnate difference in our lives, that faith isn’t even faith at all. It’s cheap grace, self deception and dead grace
@@Xymage can you provide sources for all of these points, so one can confirm these things instead of assuming everyone is a walking encyclopedia?
Something we have to remember is that Church has survived times like this over the centuries. We are now in one of these times.
Yes! The Holy-Orthodox Church still thrives!
I believe it was convert Malcolm Muggeridge who said that to have survived the bad popes and some evil times and still be the Church after 2000 years, God had to be with the Church. That is why he converted from Protestantism to Catholicism.
@@samcash6131
God said He preserved His word
Psalm12:6-7. KJB
Please read God's word. Why? Because they are His words, not man's.
Check out Hebrews.
If the "Mighty" Roman Empire fell, (due to Corruption from within) the Catholic Church because of the "human" part, would have died out long ago. Obviously, the Lord is always with His Church. Let us always pray for Her and, of course, for the Pope, Bishops, Priests, Deacons, Religious and all Catholics, 🙏 Amen 🙏
@@house0paine535 No thank you.
I still plan on being a convert to the catholic faith! Excited for my vocation
God bless You
Jesus is the Center, have no fear
Congratulations and welcome home! God bless 🙏🏼
Yayy
What a time to be considering conversion to the Catholic church...
Yeah I’m converting now or at least trying because COVID lockdowns are making it impossible.
@Ashley Slack Amen to that
We need faithful Catholics more than ever...if you are being called God is calling people of courage to stand against the heresies and hypocrites who threaten to scare off the faithful. We have survived bad popes but we HAVE to have faithful laity to stand against the enemy that seeks to exploit these failures!
Remember, Popes come and go. There are good ones and there are bad ones, yet the Church and the faith still survive.
In due respect, it's one awesome time, in all senses of the word.
Those converting now, as catechumens and as current Catholics for daily and hourly conversion, will be chastised and proven through refiner's fire if only we let Him refine.
I became Catholic first because I ENCOUNTERED Jesus in the Eucharist, and then I got to know our Blessed Mother Mother Mary. Jesus called me, to whom should I go otherwise. I’m here to stay, even in the dark night by the grace of God.
You are so blessed to have had this experience. There are many who dont believe in the true presence of the Lord in the Eucharist
Amen
Repent your sins and trust in Jesus and remember that even the devil can disguise himself as an angel of light and so can his companions so test the spirits and their works
@@moses1640 Dear Cboy. As a child, I had a good. Christian foundation before I was Catholic. Around age 11, i strongly felt the need to be baptized. In my innermost being on a simple level, I began to recognize His leading. I didn’t always follow, but grace prevailed. Decades later, when I saw that I was being lead into the Church, it became an intense time of examining the early church history, scripture reading, and prayer. It was.no overnight emotional decision. It took over twelve years or so to bring me to that place. Even then, He gave me more than a few confirmations that this was truly Jesus leading me. It was a painful process of letting go of my will and following Him.
@@HeavnzMiHome im glad you found Jesus that means you have been born again...I myself am only a teenager ive repented my sins been born again and baptized but i was baptized first and all that i was still doing all my regular sinful things until I was born again. Jesus truly changed me. If you searched about the catholic churches foundation and history then surely you must reside in a different church?
Sometimes I wonder if there has ever been a time when the Church was not in a crisis.
You think it is rough now, look to the time you will be standing before the living God and saying, Yes we needed purgatory because Your blood was not strong enough to cleanse me of sin.
@@judyswiderski2682 People end up in purgatory not because Christ s blood is not strong enough to save them but because they did not avail themselves of all the benefits Christ s blood brings to clean us.
@@alexs.5107
They are either His or they are not. We walk in the Spirit not in the flesh. We confess our sins to Him. We are His children, His body, sons of God, walking in righteous unto holiness.
There is no way we, on our own, could ever measure up. The heart of man is deceitful and wicked, who can know it. Jeremiah 17:9.
It is in walking in the Spirit that we bear much fruit. It is God working in us that creates the fruit. If you are not doing that there is no way purgatory will keep you out of hell.
He still listens to the humble heart and contrite spirit. Ask Jesus, 11:13, to send the Holy Spirit. He will come and convince you of sin.
As He brings them to mind, confess them to Jesus. This will become painful for anyone who believes he or she is basically a good person, like I did.
Press through until your eyes are open to the vileness of your sins and the enmity to God that they are.
When you see it, CRY OUT to Jesus to save you. You know He wants to and will. Your honor Him by coming to Him His way.
Read His word.
I honestly just enjoy listening to you interviewing people. It's really relaxed and you have such a gift for interacting with people. It always feels on eye level, at ease and just in good harmony. I'm trying to learn from that.
The conversation on this topic was also very balanced and helpful. Keep up the great work, it's soothing to listen to you. :)
conversation was not balanced
I came in 9 years ago and I totally agree with you on Pope Francis and even though the Church is under attack I will never go back to being a Protestant.
Atleast you know that protestant are right that pope is falible and not Peter?
Nope. Catholic Church is still the one true faith. Pope can speak on doctrine infallibly as successor to Peter but is still a fallible, human being. Seems to be a lot prots don’t understand about Catholicism.
@candyjay4121 nobody said the pope is Peter.
Also...not every word that comes out of the popes mouth is catholic doctrine.
The last time a pope said anything infallible was in 1950. Prots thinks the pope is infallible even when he is betting on the lottery lol
I am so glad that Catholic Answers is finally acknowledging there is something amiss here! This is helpful.
there is nothing amiss- Catholic Answers is getting weak - nobody can demonstrate error in Francis' teaching
Catholic Answers isn't weak- Pope is a Jesuit - Only Extremely Educated Bible Scholars would be qualified to analyze the Pope's Teachings on Doctrine & Scripture.
@@poetlover30 hmmm - I think that's a great insight, Diana - thanks
If your wise hear, do not listen to a word of what the false prophet “Pope” says such uselessness will bring destruction
Things were amiss from the beginning
"Even if Catholics faithful to tradition are reduced to a handful, they are the true Church of Jesus Christ." This quote is about 700 years old, from St. Athanasius.
Its actually 1700 years old
If it keeps going this way, we may get there. I'll be in the 12.
Exactly
He is still our Pope, the successor of St. Peter and he needs our prayers.
He is the Anti Pope!
The coat of arms of Francis ''the new tower of babel'' the coat of arms of Francis represents the ritual of the 32nd degree of the ancient and accepted Scottish Rite of Masonry!
I'd suggest anyone to not follow the Anti-pope and Anti Christ, Ven Master Freemason Jorge Mario Bergoglio's Satanic and blasphemous heretical teachings. he's an authentic apostate as an observant freemason ''worshiper of Satan, who challenges Our Saviour, Christ, God and the Holy Spirit. blasphemes ''21'' centuries of earthly history of the Holy Roman Catholic Church, trivializing everything and destroying all doctrinal values, of the old and new testament (Holy Gospel) deliberately forgetting as an hypocrite of the worst kind, the Holy Roman Church is Revelation and Tradition, in the rock solid certainty and salvific ''The gates of hell shall not prevail against it'' He always prostrates himself to ''Masonic Globalism'' and to the ''Man God''
No he's not the pope. Pachamamma.
A real pope would not allow pagan gods to be worshipped in Vatican, would not support homosexual unions and praise abortionist. Sorry as much as I’d like to defend the papacy but this is to much.
I do wish the pope was more clear on a number of things. At times he does seem to be really vague.
I have miracles that prove otherwise.
St. Vincent Ferrier thought Antipope Clement VII was pope. He was wrong.
Luke 10:5, Matt 10:13.
Usually at this point I say "I respect his position and pray for him, but am in disagreement with much of what he says." I used to be protestant and honestly, some of what goes on at the Vatican and with the Pope is what nearly drove me away from becoming Catholic. But, I didn't become Catholic for the Pope. I became Catholic because I believe it's the church Jesus started, and for the Eucharist. The Pope is just a fallible man. Jesus is Lord.
That's why us cradle catholics stay too.
Remember we the true catholics are the real Church not a bad, weak, lukewarm, political, blasphemous Pope or bishop or whatever. In fact converts I think are even more special in this end of times, because the Holly Spirit touch their hearts. Sooo hold the line. God bless you.
You converted just on time, we are at the End of Times, and antiPope of False prophet is part of the prophecies of the end of times.
Mike Gendron is on youtube
Francis would rather talk to nba players who disrespect our country than talk to the bishop from China.
This world is so messed up
Francis knows what that Chinese cardinal thinks and Francis disagrees - he's allowed to disagree. Nothing wrong with that at all.
@@angelicdoctor8016 But refusing to even have the decency to give audience to the cardinal who risked his life to travel thousands of miles was at the very least unchristian. And for Francis to disagree about communism is to not only disagree with one cardinal but to disagree with every other pope and what the church has taught ever since the rise of socialist thought.
@@ruthmaryrose the pope rejects communism, but not all aspects of socialism which can be compatible with democracy and liberty -- we can absolutely be critical of Francis' behavior, but we must accept his teaching (St. Paul corrected Peter's behavior, not his teaching)
@@angelicdoctor8016 ok how to you explain him not answering questions from prominent cardinals
About communion for divorced and remarried couples? I guess the cardinals questions have not merit either.
@@davesmietanski5988 the answers to the Dubia cardinals are already found in Amoris Laetitia - what is abundantly clear is that the dubia cardinals (representing less than 1% of cardinals) just don't like the teaching in Amoris -- that's a different problem
I am a newly confirmed Catholic who was received into the church at Easter. I try and avoid these kinds of controversies because I simply don’t feel qualified enough to have a view as yet. However I am quite surprised that there appears to be no mechanism at least in my diocese for looking after nearly converted Catholics once they’ve gone through RCIA and have been confirmed. Some kind of group support would be highly beneficial for the first year and would stop converts simply falling through the net.
How are you doing now?
You are right. Find older catholic church group.
Traditionally 3rd Orders filled that...
My moment was with the "pachamama" statues - the intro, placed in the church, retrieved from the water and then scolding the person for taking it. I feel prayers are needed and explaining to people. The whole giving up and leaving the church is totally disgusting and makes no sense to me. I love this new book that is helping and I'm currently reading from EWTN - Arise from Darkness by Fr. Groeschel. One chapter -when the church fails us states, we are all sinners and too the church is run by sinners. It's hard to hear but it is true. We need to pray for all in the church!
Purgatory is taught by your church. Why? Because a final purging is needed. Why? Because the blood of Jesus is not sufficient. I would not want to be standing in front of the living God and say that!
Reject that but keep the truth of the church. We can not accept everything unless it fits the previuos teachings.
The Holy Spirit doesnt change his mind. Plus we dont follow every opinion of the Pope, specially if underminds church teachings.
@@judyswiderski2682 Dont say that, those are your words. Purgatory is there because only the clean of heart will see God. There is plenty on Catholic Answers for you to check all the things in Bible related to that. God sacrifice is to give us a chance to go to heaven, not an automatic pass. Following commandments, works of mercy and everything Jesus taught is necessary. Purification is part of justice. If someone kills your love one repents immidiately and dies without making ammendment of life will need time of purification in afterlife.
@@Alma-tz8km
Thank you for your kind and concerned esponse.
The words of your church are in disagreement with God's words.
For example:
"Now the Spirit speakers expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing ing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypo risky, having their consciences seated with a got iron,
Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them that believe and knoweth the truth." 1 Timothy 4:1-3..
Your church teaches to abstain from meat on Friday and eat fish or other food. It for kids marriage, another use that it is not pleasing to God.
It teaches that the traditions of men, their traditions, are higher than scripture.
It teaches that salvation is only through the RCC. If you do not believe this, read your catechism.
They teach that Maey was born sinless, became the mother of God and was assumed up into heaven. The feast of assumption of Mary was established in 1958.
Mary, herself said she needed a Saviour. "And Maryy said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,
And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour. Luke. 1:46-47.
As regarding purgatory, Jesus ssid there is no other name by which we can be saved, Acts 4:12, and that Jesus is able to save to the uttermost.
"Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing that he ever liveth to make intercession fo them. Hebrews 8:25.
Your church says no He can't. His blood and one time sacrifice is not enough. You need purgatory.
The pachamama incident was just traditionalists showing their usual disgust towards anything to do with women and pregnancy. It's amazing to me how Catholic men can have so many opinions on what women should do when they are pregnant but are so disgusted when they have to look at an image of a pregnant woman that they get enraged and call it idolatry. The Catholic church is a patriarchal institution that hates women and abuses children while proclaiming to love both. I'm glad I stopped engaging with it years ago.
How can you in any way defend Pachamama?
The same way you defend Assisi and a pope kissing the Koran.
@@SperoinDeoexcellent but truly sad point.
@@SperoinDeo Can you elaborate the Assisi comment?
@@arizonaarcher9323 The very short version: Both Pope JPII and BXVI went to Assisi and invited other religions to pray with them, putting the one true faith on the same level as false religions. A Buddhist put his idol on top of the tabernacle on an altar. One of them got “blessed” by an witch doctor. These are very serious first commandment issues. Google this: Catholic family news Assisi scandal. They have several very good articles on this subject matter. Pachamama was a natural outflow of and from Assisi. Neocatholics simply make excuses for it, like they admitted making excuses for Pope Francis in this video.
@@SperoinDeo That is insane. I didn't know that.
How about praying for our pope?
Dont pray for a false prophet
Pray for Pope Benedict, yes. I agree. He suffers much
I have never taken to Pope Francis .John Paul 11 and Benedict were lovely.
“Unintentional gaslighting” - exactly. I do not share the view that Pope Francis is a good preacher. I believe he is a bad pope. We’ve had them before. We also have a lot of bad bishops - the “sons of McCarrick” here in the US, and many more worldwide. The bad & lukewarm bishops outnumber the good. Our Lady of Akita foretold this.
What is so unintentional about the gas lighting going on?
Agree. This pope is uninspiring at best and confounding and misleading as the worse. His seems to revel in destroying the teaching of his predecessors
@@d.singler-kron9034 6:38 -- the apologists' initial goal was to defend the papacy at all costs, and in the beginning of Francis's papacy, most of the complaints were from people really taking his words out of context and the perennial complainers.
My brother was abused by mc Carrick. Is that mean spirited. Gi and
@@patriciamontgomery658 Not mean-spirited at all, that is truly awful and despicable. That someone outwardly professing Christ would do such a thing is so far removed from what is right that I would defrock and jail him if I had the power. It is a stain on the Church. "Don't abuse children" is a basic moral in virtually all cultures, and it should be one of the easier directives to follow.
The Pope would not speak against God's word if the Holy Spirit was with him!
Even the very elect would be misled.
How would you know Pat?
“Its ok to be gay” says the pope...2 Corinthians 6:9-10; “Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.”
@@Kitiwake oh yeah he does.
@@moses1640 my friend the Catholic Church does not teach that someone cannot have feelings for the same sex but they teach that it is a sin to have homosexual intercourse. Pope Francis has never said “it is ok to have homosexual intercourse” man get out of here and go get educated. Stop making calumnies against the vicar of Christ because the Bible says that liars too won’t enter the kingdom of heaven.
We all need to pray for the popes and clergy,etc.
Why!?
Quite simply because Mary asked us to!
End of story!!!
Mary knows nothing about your heretical pope.. can you people leave her alone and stop turning her into an IDOL!
@@daughterofalmasih7013
@@stephenfredrickson4722 I don’t mean to be rude. But it annoys me that people leave the lord that bought them to worship his mother in the flesh... God says all flesh is corrupt!
@@daughterofalmasih7013 you dont even know what means "IDOL" ...idol means thinking that another person or thing is another GOD.
And Catholics HAVE ONLY ONE GOD. STOP BEING AN HERETIC AND SPREAD YOUR IGNORANCE ON THE CATHOLICS THAT YOU LOOK VERY IGNORANT
@@blonde.angelk well if Mary is not the father, and she is not the son, and she is not the Holy Spirit?
She is another person distinct from God that you worship, pray and supplicate to.. that my dear is idolatry... you may not see it that way.. but objectively it is precisely that. Worship of a Goddess! An abomination according to God! You are tainting the mother of Christ.
Hey, an Argentinian here! I'm sorry for the Pope we exported, guys. Haha. I'm joking. Partially. 😅😉
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Well I too am from Argentina and I am ashamed of this Pope !!
@@starbuono825 what garbage that comment is - Francis is a GIANT GIFT to the Catholic Church, purging Catholicism of sinful conservatism, just as JPII and Benedict purged the Church of liberalism
@@angelicdoctor8016 You're either trying to be sarcastic, or you're just illogical.
He is a great Pope...( I am a Canadian) he is living the gospel, reaching the marginalized not preaching.
Love transforms hearts.
When we realize who true Love is we stop searching for love in all the wrong places.
Love covers a multitude of sins.
Love overcomes evil
He is living the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Reaching the marginalized with the Love of Jesus and Mary.
YES.. SAD BUT VERY TRUE.. GOD BLESS HIS ONE AND ONLY CATHOLIC CHURCH!!!
Amen
Which would be the orthodox church.
@@SLVBULL Nice try. I love the Orthodox church, but, the one true church, even in time of calamity, will have The Bishop Of Rome.
@@rugbyladice574
The Bishop of Rome, Benedict had a portrait of himself in the Vatican with these words, The way, the truth and the life. If you want to see it, look up Lamp in the Dark video RUclips. Go to the timeline and click around the halfway mark. You will see it.
@@judyswiderski2682 I believe "The Way, The Truth, and the Life" is a beautiful portrait of The Catholic Church. The Way is the laity, the Truth is the Magisterium, and the Life is the Sacraments.
We have to return to tradition
no you have to return to scripture. Tradition is unreliable.
Your religion teaches purgatory. Why? There must be a final purifying of purging. Why? Because Jesus's blood is not sufficient. I would not want to stand before the living God and say that! No way!
@@judyswiderski2682 Jesus' blood opens the gates of heaven. Protestants sometimes don't see that Jesus doesn't drag us in -- we respond to Jesus by faith (an intellectual act) and good works (an act of the will). If we sin, even after Baptism by not offering faith and good works we commit injustice. Justice must be fully satisfied for our personal sins before entering heaven, even if we are sorry for our sins. If a soul dies without justice satisfied, the soul goes to purgatory for a purification (even a painful purification), provided that the soul is already sorry for sin (and thus no longer guilty in God's eyes).
The Protestant doctrines (invented in the 1500s) of "sola fide" and "sola scriptura" are not only unbiblical, they are not even Christian, sorry to say.
@@angelicdoctor8016
What do you mean, offering faith and good works?
@@judyswiderski2682 HI Judy. Have a look at this section of the Catholic Catechism, which explains merit. It may be interesting for you:
"III. MERIT
You are glorified in the assembly of your Holy Ones, for in crowning their merits you are crowning your own gifts.5
2006 The term "merit" refers in general to the recompense owed by a community or a society for the action of one of its members, experienced either as beneficial or harmful, deserving reward or punishment. Merit is relative to the virtue of justice, in conformity with the principle of equality which governs it.
2007 With regard to God, there is no strict right to any merit on the part of man. Between God and us there is an immeasurable inequality, for we have received everything from him, our Creator.
2008 The merit of man before God in the Christian life arises from the fact that God has freely chosen to associate man with the work of his grace. The fatherly action of God is first on his own initiative, and then follows man's free acting through his collaboration, so that the merit of good works is to be attributed in the first place to the grace of God, then to the faithful. Man's merit, moreover, itself is due to God, for his good actions proceed in Christ, from the predispositions and assistance given by the Holy Spirit.
2009 Filial adoption, in making us partakers by grace in the divine nature, can bestow true merit on us as a result of God's gratuitous justice. This is our right by grace, the full right of love, making us "co-heirs" with Christ and worthy of obtaining "the promised inheritance of eternal life."60 The merits of our good works are gifts of the divine goodness.61 "Grace has gone before us; now we are given what is due. . . . Our merits are God's gifts."62
2010 Since the initiative belongs to God in the order of grace, no one can merit the initial grace of forgiveness and justification, at the beginning of conversion. Moved by the Holy Spirit and by charity, we can then merit for ourselves and for others the graces needed for our sanctification, for the increase of grace and charity, and for the attainment of eternal life. Even temporal goods like health and friendship can be merited in accordance with God's wisdom. These graces and goods are the object of Christian prayer. Prayer attends to the grace we need for meritorious actions."
Bad Popes happen to good people.
That's ridiculous. If you seriously think that you are good or that the majority of people/Catholics are good people, you're delusional.
Who does Jesus say is GOOD ?
The parable of the rich man calls Jesus GOOD. And Jesus affirms that ONLY GOD IS GOOD. Humans are sinners in need of a savior. Anyone who thinks they are good needs to look again.
Beware of believing too highly of oneself.
@@harmonygordon6901 we are good in so far as we imitate Christ
@s thats a mystery at present we are all in the dark. But i do think that the light will shine upon the demons and their darkness and we will see things as they truly are. Pray and fast and do penance
In history they had to uncover who was the ONE true pope when more then one happened...PLUS JP II THE GREAT laughed at the question of resignation and said "who do I turn it in to?!" ...I would think ONLY if cardinals vote to unseat a pope !maybe
The pope is the reason I couldn’t consider Catholicism. The belief that he is the earthly representative of Christ yet ascribes to world views. I’m currently exploring Eastern Orthodoxy. But this was helpful in opening my mind to other ways to view the Pope and his mistakes.
The problem is the false leaders (Hierarchy) running the Church now, not the Church found by Chist and established by the Apostles. It’s Christ’s teachings we need to follow to be saved. This is actually a crisis we are to endure and overcome with patience. God knows when to intervene for the good of his faithful ones. We ought to learn from the Saints who even suffered martyrdom defending the faith.🙏🙏🙏
I am Catholic IN SPITE of Pope Francis. I only stay for the Eucharist.
Orthodox have the Eucharist.
Don't forget the Blessed Virgin Mary! We got Fatima and others.
utter nonsense - you can't show error in Francis' teaching
@@7db9a9 nooooooo there is no mary only Jesus can save you
@@angelicdoctor8016 you are categorical but in fact do not address the numerous dubious or heretical statements of Jorge
Finally..matt fradd touches on this. Now if only trent horn would..
I try to ignore Pope Francis’s messages.
I try to stay positive and pray for the Pope and the Church . May Jesus Christ have mercy on us all.
I think it’s wrong to cover up for any pope’s bad translations of Catholic theology. Apologists are lying when they try to make excuses for the Pope Francis.
let's see an example - you can't do it
A house divided against itself cannot stand
For all the things Catholics say about Protestants, they deal with the exact same issue. I’d argue the division is even worse for Catholics
JP2 was The Philosopher and Benedict XVI was The Theologian, I would say Pope Francis is The Pastoralist. Three different popes for three different times. Let’s trust in God and pray for our Spiritual Father. Let’s assume the attitude of St Francis of Assisi and no the attitude of Martin Luther.
Blessed Mother, pray for us.
Good way of putting it in perspective
A pastor has to keep his sheep from falling off the cliff of sin, he isn’t doing that, he is validating and confirming his sheep in their sin, causing confusion and letting them wonder off.
I’m not Catholic but I am a devout believer in Messiah Jesus and a minister of the Gospel. When it falls upon Catholicism to elect a new pope, I care enough to learn about the candidates for the conclave. I can only tell you that I was very joyful upon the announcement of Pope Benedict, very sad at his announcement of retirement (though retiring was a testimony to his humility and character), and even more sad at the election of Pope Francis. I care about the Gospel and the biblical theology of the Church. And I was afraid Pope Francis would not be a faithful witness to either of these pillars. And I mourn with my faithful Catholic brothers and sisters that this man has not been a good pope or even a good leader.
2000 yrs catholic church stayed through the good and worst, who or what , doesn't matter , church is always guided by holy spirit, the grace of God, intercession of mother Mary, will be there. #Alwayslookingaboveforhelp
And sometimes the Holy Spirit has acted by sending prophets to reprimand bad and failing popes. Pray to St. Catherine of Siena for her intercession especially.
With all sincerity I do not understand how the pope can remove some priests for minor offenses but yet the German bishops who are basically in schism and have outrightly gone against church teaching remain in their positions. Can someone explain to me why the pope has not removed them?
No he is not an amazing preacher - thats just plain ridiculous.
He preaches nonsense, he says I should confess light bulb misuse just to name one of his ridiculous arrogant pontifications. There is no fool like an old fool.
I agree. I've listened to him on numerous occasions (on tv) and even I know when he's saying something wrong again and I'm not even a theologian. If you know your faith, you will know who to listen to and he's not one I would recommend listening to.
He is a great pope
The church has deteriorated since Vatican 2, but Pope Francis has resigned his title of Vicar of God meaning representing God on earth, what is he then.
i stopped defending him when he met with NBA players in Vatican without any masks or physical distancing to discuss SOCIAL INJUSTICE which is a code word for BLM, and this was 2 days ago
And yet he refuses to meet Cdl Zen or any other bishop who dares to offer fraternal correction...but BLM atheist marxists are OK...
The there are the purely political positions he takes. He is a peronist , He installs as a cardinal an apologist for BLM and a protege of McCarrick.
Shouldn't someone correct arch bishop Gregory on giving communion to an abortionist politician, of course it's not gonna be bergoglio but some cardinal should.
@s I've been to masses where (in the part where the priest prays for the pope and for our bishop) he prayed for Benedict XVI
God forbid the pope speak to people you disagree with. the catholic church is beyond weak.
There are a lot of us who stopped defending Bergoglio. However now there is no doubt that he has crossed the boundary. This pope has introduced idolatry into the Catholic Church...this occurred in October of last year at the Amazon Synod. The pope sat in his chair in the Vatican gardens and looked on approvingly as a group of people, including a Franciscan, prostrated themselves to the pachamamma idols. Shortly after, the pope brought these idols into St Peters. Unbelievable.....I don’t know what criteria disqualifies a pope, but idolatry has to be right up there.
Idolatry is the sin that God hates most...the first commandment states.....I am the lord thy God, thou shalt not have strange gods before me.
A month later Covid began.....coincidence?
Agree completely and I’m glad to hear other people are on the same boat
Pope Francis NO ONE GOES TO HELL? Wishful thinking
except he didn't say that
He is saying God does not put us in hell we do it to ourselves when we refuse His Mercy.
Lies coming from the devil himself speaking through his agent Francis
@@naisonmandigo4135 naison -- we noticed that you have no evidence to support your wild and crazy claims
@@angelicdoctor8016 @Angelic Doctor "you will know them by the fruits of their deeds" God find no words to preach to homosexuals, even Apostle Paul, and others, but Francis embrace them, maybe he is one of them. Who knows? God is the same today, tomorrow and forever. Being a catholic/ pope or whoever is no excuse on the throne of judgement. Jesus is God, you can see Him, understand Him by reading His word. Peter the one who was given a revelation by God to identify that Christ is the son of God, at one point he was used as a mouthpiece of the devil. How about Francis? who never see Jesus in flesh. If the devil uses Peter, what more us? Think about it. Its only those who can decent the spirit in leaders will never be swayed away by a strange docrine.
My question is this. Is a popeless Catholic a Catholic. Wouldn't he be a Lutheran at that point.
Exactly. Sedevacantists are of a protestant mindset
It's funny how the "Protestant Catholics" still want the title Catholic. Ridiculous.
Lutheranism is a whole lot more than rejecting papal authority. Merely rejecting the Pope is basically Eastern Orthodoxy, which according to Vatican 2 are sister churches. So it's not that bad is it? Or is it good?
Yes, a popeless Catholic is still Catholic. Catholicism is not defined by the papacy.
@@petegalvs yes but not the RC.everything in RC hinges on the pope.its the reason schism happened and its also a stumbling block for any kind of reconciliation with the Orthodox catholic church
The fact that the mainstream Marxist leftist media were so in love with him from the get-go was a big problem for me.
And then every time he said something his staunch supporters were trying to explain what he meant. And then I thought, why does he always need someone to explain what he said?!
Let's pray and do penance! For the devil is strong during this papacy.
Satan & demons do their best damage in the religious arena
with their best tactic, deception.
Iam a catholic and forever a catholic and I don't liked his decisions and what he is doing.
Evangelizing is so tough right now. "Come on in, the water's awful" isn't super compelling.
@Ashley Slack I'm glad to hear it, welcome. My in-laws like to bring up his quotes and use them as a club and it creates a major stumbling block for a lot of people when he says things that are clearly wrong. Unfortunately many dismiss Catholicism out of hand and feel no need to look into it further like you did.
My prayer is that curiosity as to why anyone would stay through the awful water, may lead to investigation and potential conversions. Lets hope atleast!
What is the truth that the Catholic church uniquely has?
Also, would like to offer encouragement to @Nick Dombrowski that you can evangelise and tell people about Christ no matter what the Pope does. Our God remains constant forever and always has been, no matter what the current situation is with the Church. God be with you as you evangelise.
Lol
LOL, sometimes the truth is funny
Glad someone from CA finally admitting the obvious.
The Traditional Latin Mass along with pre Vatican II teaching, is the best way to pursue our Faith.
Newsflash Pope Francis doesn't need you to defend him.
No, he has a highly paid PR manager to do that for him.
We left the church because of not just Pope Francis, but the leadership in general & how they handled everything after Pope JPII
There's been so many changes to liturgy and a lack of respect for the parishioners.
It’s only gotten worse. I can no longer defend or support him. Pray for him, yes. But defend him, no….
I can not understand all this criticism at all! Peter, the first pope, made so many errors which he freely confessed. Are we expecting a god or a man as a pope? It is not required of the pope to give answers on everything. Even Jesus leaves us with questions aplenty. The pope may pronounce on matters of faith but you are asking him to pronounce on the politics of right and wrong. Pope Francis is a holy man and teaches us to leave our comfortable place of 'knowing' what is right and what is wrong so that we can turn away from those who act the wrong way. He teaches us to go right in and carry the love of Christ where we would rather not go. To me, he is Peter in the present day.
Anthony de Carnys- absolutely NOT like St. Peter!
No he chooses to put his 2 cents in on every single topic. He’s not supposed to give us all of his opinions.. just faith and morals.. not the climate change issue and the world financial forum etc
@@pianokatrn so you’re saying faith should stay separate from secular ? That faith doesn’t influence the entirety of a persons being.
How can you believe love your neighbor and stay silent
What bothers a lot of people is thebad example he sets when he promotes certain people and demotes or removes certain others based upon what aplears to be ruthless political motives. He says that tolerance is important and mercy and yet he treats catholics that want a little more tradition very poorly. He does not exude holiness, but rather the pettiness of a tyrant at many times.
Catholic Answer need to stop defending the Pope. That's making more confusion.
ruclips.net/video/9L7tBgDIK2M/видео.html
Gaslighting. YES. And it's painful when someone gaslights you.
Thanks for this interview with an honest AUTHENTIC Catholic who respects the AUTHENTIC teachings of the Church.
Watching the NBA rich celebrities have audience with the BadPope HURTS MY HEART, when I know he refused an audience with Zen.
Praying for the Chinese Catholic Church who have been thrown under the bus.
Praying for the whole persecuted Church.
Who would have imagined that the persecution would come from WITHIN as well as outside the Church.
I was taught that the pope is the mouth piece of God. How's that working out for you lately, heretic?
Pachamama was the turning point for me. When I saw the video of the procession into the church and the placing of the idols on the alter, I knew we were not dealing with a Holy Pope. Maybe not even a Catholic Pope.
Totally agree with you. The Pachamama thing changed the mind about Francis also and others I have spoken with. Pagan idols have no place in the Vatican. Thankyou to the young men that threw it in the river.
Maybe take all the statues out of our churches you ignorant fool, since you consider them idols. You must not be catholic
Vatican clarified it was not used as an idol - of course - so, no sin at all - it's OK to Christianize pagan symbols -- we even did that with December 25
@@angelicdoctor8016 what makes it ok? Wow wow wow wow is this the great blasphemy that is within the catholic church? And about december 25,november 25,halloween, those are all pagan things and we as Christians should not celebrate such things
@@moses1640 not so -- Christ gave the keys to the kingdom to the popes -- they have his own authority - we can Christianize whatever we want by the power of Christ -- nothing can contain the Catholic Church
I decided to stop defending Francis when he recently wrote a congratulations and vote of approval to Fr James Martin for his work with gays and New Ways Ministries. He's just sowing confusion and dissension now... Gotta keep him in prayer, but God please send us another JPII or Benedict XVI
Do you believe that St. Malachy’s prophecy is becoming true?
What??? The best thing that ever happened to the church in the last centuries is the Pope Francis! Love the Pope.
Same here, people forget the Pope is the Pope by Gods own will.
True, this people is only being influenced by the demon to create division among us and to attack the head of the church as Pope Leo 13 predicted
I don´t really know if Francis is the best thing that has happened to the church, but it definitely isn't the best thing that has happened to victims of pedophilia whose abusers continue to be protected by this unholy institution.
@@eduardocabrera9846 regarding this matter, I can assure you that this Pope has been forthcoming and has acted in a way that has done a lot to keep the perpetrators accountable. I am not aware of all the details but I know that Pope Francis is more transparent and has been working on cleaning up the institution.
I am not going to pretend the history of the church regarding this matter in particular has been anything short from shameful. But I see that Pope Francis has done a lot to change the institution.
There is no special inspiration for the election of the pope, any more than the election of any other official or leader. How has he been good for the Church? He’s confused the faithful since his first days.
I have been asking everybody, on every RUclips video, to please pray an ''Our Father, Hail Mary and a Glory be'' (at least) every night and all in union for the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. We know it will be done since Our Blessed Mother said so. But let's pray that Christ will make it happen as soon as possible. Thank you and God Bless you all in these troubled times.
I am a protestant but I think pope Francis is not a representative of anyone on earth.
that's why you're a protestant, friend
he represents NWO globalism...not catholicism
@@angelicdoctor8016 do you think a guy who supports homosexuality and abortion and climate change and globalism and many other evil agendas in his church to be a representative of Jesus Christ????you must be joking.
@@jamescorcoran5861 yes pope Francis is a puppet of Soros and his left wing demonic empire.
@@yakovmatityahu you have committed the sin of slander in your last comment
I agree with you guys. The moment for me was the Interreligious meeting in Assisi in 1986. An objective breach against the 1st commandment. What's your opinion of that?
Politics
I refuse to defend evil!
Not happy with the Liberal Pope and the newly promoted Liberal cardinal! Born Catholic and very ashamed! NO TRUST & HONESTY!! What happened to the Commandments?
Bishop gregory is a new world order social justice leftist... not catholic...close friend and frequent host of McCarrick the three decades serial sexual predator and corrupt money grubbing whelp
GO TO THE TRADITIONAL CATHOLIC LATIN MASS ! THATS THE REAL MASS!
I don't know why so many people have a hard time admitting that we have a bad pope. That doesn't mean he isn't pope or that the gates of hell have prevailed. It just means he's bad at his job. We have no problem saying that the medieval popes were awful, but I guess it's easier to say that when it's a distant medieval tale, rather than a close reality. I hope the next pope finally swings back to tradition, pushing as far back as possible against everything the current magisterium stands for (little attention to liturgy and evangelization).
I have this theory that the Cardinals knew exactly who and what they were voting for when they voted for Pope Francis. At the time the sex scandals were in full bloom and they wanted someone who people would love and who would take their eyes off of that. I still remember all the News stories about him being a "Rock Star". All my friends who believe in abortion and partying instantly loved him. This is what they wanted, not realizing the walls of the Church were collapsing.
Don’t you think the walls were collapsing with the pedophilia ? Not so much a different pope
Papa Frank is the Pope, but that doesn't mean that we need to defend him. Honestly, he's far from my favorite pope.
@Daniel Pan we've had bad popes before novus ordo. We've had bad popes after novus ordo. It's not something that's foreign, but, it's pretty bad. I'm pretty sure traditionalism will eventually sweep out any heresies. Thank you for keeping the faith, I'm sorry that you're a sedevacantist and that you've been wounded and grieved by this experience as a whole. I understand your anger and bitterness, but I'm gonna have to just stay strong, and keep on trucking. God bless and keep you brother
@Daniel Pan To declare whether or not the Holy Father is a heretic or not isn't the role of the laity. To say otherwise is prideful and pompous. St. Robert Bellarmine has made it clear that it is the job of the hierarchs to decide if that is the case. You don't gotta like him, but he is still the pope. Don't forget that there have been popes in the past that have been condemned for heresy after their deaths such as Pope Honorius I who wrote a letter supporting Monothelitism to the patriarch of Constantinople.
@Daniel Pan yes, just as the Borgia pope. Pray for him
@Daniel Pan says who? Says you, who are probably not in full Communion with Rome, which makes all your claims hollow and empty. Go play "mass" in your "catholic vestments" somewhere else.
@Daniel Pan I am saying Francis is the pope and I am no theologian or member of the clergy. Therefore I might question whether he is right or wrong, but I will not be calling him a heretic. And even if he were a heretic, he is still my pope.
Comment #1132 (as you need one more)
The way I have personally been seeing this contradiction is this:
This can be explained by the works of the Holy Spirit
I have been in similar positions, as Joe and Mark stated, in which something Pope Francis says or reacts is not ideal to our understanding, however.
We know the Catholic Church is always guided by the Holy Spirit
And one of the biggest virtues we can improve on is obedience (specially priests)
There are many bad apples to be shaken off the tree and the ambiguous or contradictory things Pope Francis says help shake and trim of the tree (The Church).
I hope someone can understand my point
Very well said. :)
"We know the Catholic Church is always guided by the Holy Spirit."
Really? Then how did this guy become pope? He's an heretic! Does the Holy Spirit allow a heretic to lead Christ's church? It looks like the Holy Spirit has abandoned the RCC like He did Saul. No, people, one day you will be forced to be disciples for Christ or disciples for an apostate church. Right now, you are like the Pharisees. All the signs were right there in front of them, but they thought they were the righteous ones, just like you Catholics. "We belong to the One True Church!" You've been taught that your whole lives as was I. I chose to follow Christ, not some wingnut sitting on a throne in the Vatican. Don't quote Matthew 16 to me if you don't know simple biblical Greek. But I don't expect you to know when you don't even know what it says, other than what you were taught in CCD, in that dusty Bible on the shelf or in some box you never unpacked after moving once. My older sister went to adult CCD classes for a year and still doesn't understand anything. Blind leading the blind. smh
@@davidhall2197 You may be the most arrogant person I have ever read on here. You claim to know what God does and why he does it? A lot of people who are suffering may want to speak to you for an understanding as to why. You claim to be better than others because you CLAIM to know biblical Greek? You have never read the Bible, have you? I hope a millstone does not find you. As far as I am concerned, you may now pat yourself on the back, as you seem to have lots of experience doing it. Do you ever wonder what it would feel like if someone else were to pat you on the back? I doubt that would concern you though.
@@rugbyladice574 Much ado about nothing.
@@davidhall2197 david with all do respect who are you to judge the pope??. From your response are you even catholic sounds protestant. The fact your sister or any one person doesn't get. Might mean in my opinion that the Holy Spirit decided
FYI I have a strong faith on the Church for the last year or two. You assume my whole life. It have had a guidance or revelation.
I think Benedict is still the real pope.
he's not and he doesn't think so
Angelic Doctor @ Bergoglio is not the Pope, he is the false prophet. The real Pope is Benedict 16. Bergoglio is not even Catholic.
@@normac3786 but Benedict XVI rejects your claim
Amen
Angelic Doctor @ If you have a gun to your head 24, hours you will do the same. So sad we are sleeping as Catholics, by the time we see the truth for many it will be too late. Pray the rosary. Don’t you see what they are doing to President Trump, they did it first to Benedict 16.
I grew up in the time of Vatican II here in the US. I was in the convent at the time and we got finely filtered and in small bliss! Then we had all the changes that seemed to not be a little breeze but a real dumping of real holy things, like too much water in the Chalice. It certainly put a lot of people in a bad way. The idea of just keeping the real things and not pay attention to the new parts, and find where you get where you can stay on a good path or I should say the windy, overgrown path. At the time it way very difficult to find a place that had decided to go slowly. It still gives me a jolt have to search for the tabernacle. It just does not seem that you are in His presence.
Purpose of Vatican 2 ?
👉 Ecumenicalism
Aftermath of Vatican 2 included
exodus of Nuns, Priests
I am not a fan of pope Francis I think he is a bad pope but I am still Catholic. The pope has nothing to do with my faith.
he was a communist , He said his best teacher was a commie .He wrote this in a book before he was pope . His writings before he was pope was scary . he should never been ordained a priest much less a bishop . So how the hell did he get to be pope
I do not think the Pope's conversion will come through support for him. IMHO.
I express my opinion. IMHO is evident in my response. I am grown up. Why it bothers you is your problem
Do not reply to my messages again. You have your opinion and I have mine. I have never been told before that I am mean spirited. You are not fighting with me. I don't fight.
Go to your priest with my response and ask him what he discerns. That may be eye-opening. I will go to mine as well. Keep you opinions in prayer
I know my faith
so much nonsense - no errors can be shown in Francis' teaching
We must hold on for saving the true Jesus' church
Really, folks have been leaving the Catholic Church in droves for decades! Plus most of those who have not "left" don't attend mass with any regularity, this all began long before Pope Francis came on the stage.
Vatican 2 officially started the
Ecumenical Movement.
One World Order agenda includes
1 world religion as a goal.
~~ closer, Closer, CLOSER ~~
The true faithfull must stay the course ! We are seeing the truth with our own eyes and hearing the deceptions with own ears.
Thyasria!
This video is about 3 years old. Things are 3 times worse, with all the ambiguity and confusion. At times he speaks and preaches accordingly to Church teachings but his actions are the opposite. Let’s keep our eyes on Jesus and pray for pope Francis.
The idea that JP2 “had our backs” is so disingenuous.
JP2 was a good man that made a few mistakes. In general he did have the backs of us Catholics.
You are disingenuous
I liked JP2 until i saw that he was the one that allowed female altar servers.
JPII, Assisi 1986....drop the mic.
@@norbertx9415 John 6:64
You know I never did, since the interview on the plain back from Brazil he shows what are his beliefs. I just pray for his conversion and repentance.
*CATHOLIC CATECHISM 675:*
_"Before Christ’s second coming the Church must pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many believers. The persecution that accompanies her pilgrimage on earth will unveil the “mystery of iniquity” in the form of a religious deception offering men an apparent solution to their problems at the price of apostasy from the truth. The supreme religious deception is that of the Antichrist, a pseudo-messianism by which man glorifies himself in place of God and of his Messiah come in the flesh."_
I *don't* believe Francis is the Anti-Christ; such thing would be impossible as he wouldn't fit the "requirements". THOUGH, he could very well be _the_ false prophet who will introduce him. We should simply wait in prudence, and remain as *faithful* as possible to the OFFICIAL teachings of the Church; and discern that not everything the pope says is infallible. Above all, pray the rosary everyday, and do not become discouraged. This trial _was_ expected, and it'll end with God and his Church prevailing.
Pope Francis is reinvigorating the Orthodox believers within the Catholic Church, unintentionally that is.
It is precisely because his stances and "proclamations" are so problematic, that the faithful are rediscovering what the infallible Magisterium is, what it means for the Pope to speak "ex cathedra", that even Peter (the first Pope) denied Christ 3 times and that Christ is the head of the Catholic Church!
"For Thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory forever and ever!"
Yes! Please don't turn a blind eye! You can see the chaos and still be charitable. It's not hard!
Thanks Matt! I think union with the Pope is still essential
Indeed it is
@Don Espoleto Why must you be in communion with him?
When the pope strays from the words of God I am bound by the Bible to mark and avoid him
Me: Reading The Alta Vendita 📖
Pope in name only God will judge him. I have no faith in pope Francis man is flawed....
And you aren't?
Definitely an appropriate time to pray for our Pope and especially our Bishops to speak/write on these issues so they are not lead astray.
Can totally understand the frustration though, lots of head scratching moments since he began as Pope.
Agreed. Stop defending. Start clarifying what infallibility ISN'T. Keep praying for him and the church.
The Pope also accepted a communist cross that he took home. Even atheists say that’s blasphemy.
I didn’t like Francis way back when he said you’re talking too much about abortion . He’s a heretic
Be careful about calling the Holy Father a heretic. That's not our role as the laity. Leave that for the hierarchs to decide. Is he a bad pope? Probably, but our job is to cling to the barque of Peter and save our souls and convert those around us to the one, true faith
And that Catholics didn’t need to “breed like rabbits.” 🙄
@@jackryan7369 Won't that job be made more difficult if they see the contradiction in what you share vs what the Pope says?
The one good thing about this pontificate is that it makes you look at 16th century Protestants with much more indulgence. It is probable that the pain of a bad papacy was unbearable for a number of good Catholics.
They should have obeyed, and submitted to Magisterial authority. The church is made up of sinners. Some leaders throughout history will exemplify that. But submit and obey to the authority of the church. Now, we have hordes of people that neither know about nor have experienced the literal body blood soul and divinity of Jesus in the Eucharist - all because someone thought they knew better than the Pope and the Magisterium. The ice is thin in these parts.
@@bokrugreturns The sheep are not to blame when they are lost, the shepherd is to blame. The guilt and responsibility for evils you mention rest firmly on the bishops and popes who gave just cause for the faithful to take offense. These unholy men sought temporal power and as a consequence they lost their spiritual authority over millions and damned the souls of many. If they look upon hell, they will find it paved with the skulls of the very popes and bishops who had betrayed Christ by seeking temporal authority.
@@costakeith9048 I'm sorry, are you implying that the first Protestants (Luther et al) weren't to blame for being aggressively heretical?
I agree but we should abstain from commiting the sins Luther did, pride, changing the Bible, going only Scriptura....etc....
Luther was a RC. His goal wasn’t to split with the RCC.
He was a student & an observer. He dared to critique & question.
Blame Luther only IF you insist,
but that stance improves nothing, teaches nobody. One half of a whole story is serious censorship. Half truth = Whole lie.
PF is being critiqued for sound reasons from within the RCC.
How was Luther handled?
How is the RCC Clerics & loyalists handling legitimate critiques and questions today?
Silence? Loyalty to a splintering, confused, un-catholic, un-biblical
RCC hierarchy?
GOD Himself is The Authority.
I strongly disagree with many of the things the Pope says but I will never ever leave my Church... These signs of disagreement MEAN we should PRAY A LOT FOR THE POPE.
Well said.
Yes,for God to get rid of him.
Pray for the conversion of pope Francis back to traditional Catholicism
I walked away from Francis. Never confirmed in the church, so I received chrismation in the Orthodox Church. Francis is anathema.
The heads of the different schismatic orthodox churches are not much better
The pope gives fuel to his critics, left and right, by not clarifying some of his more vague or unorthodox sounding statements.
unorthodox.... you dont say....
This is how Modernists operate; their goal is to destroy Catholic doctrine and Church structures while claiming that they not doing that. It is a completely dishonest and wicked behavior and one that is very effective.
@@michaelk969 absolute nonsense - let's see one Francis teaching that lacks clarity -- this is Taylor Marshall conspiracy B.S.
@@angelicdoctor8016 he definitely doesn't CLARIFY. A guy in my Zoom Bible study told us he is gay and now he is wondering why he is in the Church and is demoralized as the rest of us. He was sacrifically living Church teaching and now he feels Francis threw that back in his face and he can go out and have a civil partnership. That was deeply confusing and demoralizing for everyone except those who never live by Church teaching anyway. He never clarified that. Most people outside the Church believe Catholics now support gay marriage because of Francis - you hear it everywhere.
@@beautifulspirit7420 I think that people do have to work a bit (read accurate sources, etc.) to know what Francis fully thinks on a topic, especially if the bishops and clergy aren't doing their work well - clarifying for the laity the teaching of the pope. I do think the gay man in your Bible class should be asking his priest for clarification as he needs it. I think it's pretty clear, though, that that man doesn't have to spend his entire life alone in an apartment by himself - there are non-sinful options - a roommate who is not gay is an option as well - people don't have to be alone, though he may prefer that.
A father figure was not in my life for over 20 years, yet I found myself defending my father. I Made it clear that nobody could speak bad about my biological father. I think we are wired to love our fathers...If that is true for biological fathers, would it be more true for spiritual fathers?
I understand your point, but if your biological father punch a womn in the street, saying he didn't is not correct. Im not saying you should hate him or something, but charity must to be founded in the truth. You can make an effort to understand why your father punched that woman (he could be drunk, he was havin a very low moment in his life... whatever), but saying he didn't punch that woman is lie.
I think its true that we *WANT* to love a spiritual father. I believe that God has given us a person to love in a very faithful Shepard, Archbishop Vigano.
I really don't care who is Pope.
I just let myself *KNOW* that PF is a BadPope. And Vigano is a good Shepard who stays faithful to the AUTHENTIC GOSPEL. We are not required to follow a false-gospel *NO MATTER WHO PRESENTS IT*
What we need to know is written in the Bible.
I love Archbishop Vigano as I would love a good father who cares about my soul.
@Pro Justice With "your" I'm speaking in a general example, I'm not preaching anything about his father, I don't know nothing about him. Don't make problem where it isn't. I'm talking about "your" 'cause we are not speaking about a random father but our spiritual pather (who is the Pope), so as we talk about our pope, talking about a biological father is about our father, and putin an example to someone, I talk about his father, not about mine's (who is not related with the one I'm talking to).
@@Xavilupe - Well…I am not saying that I am right; what I am sharing is of an “inexplicable” predisposition of mine for defending my biological father as a child, and how this predisposition applies to “my” spiritual father. I cannot relate to your hypothetical example of a physically abusive father; however, since I initiated this track by sharing a personal experience, I might as well press on…
As a child, I vividly remember the days when my mother would leave town to work in another country. Friend, it felt like a punch in the gut, a feeling that lasted days, and weeks until she would come back a few months later. I was old enough to understand why my mother had to leave. In reality, my absent father was emotionally punching my mother and me, a kind of an abusive behavior for not acting as a father (sin of omission). By no means I would deny my father’s mistakes, yet somehow I honored him despite of……
Today, as an adult, I understand I was able to endure the difficult times through God’s Grace (my father is present in my life and we enjoy a beautiful father-son relationship).
Today, as an adult, I understand Pope Francis is not the perfect spiritual father; may God continue pouring His Grace to honor the Vicar of Christ now in difficult times and forever, Amen.
@Pro Justice Look, I'm not native and I don't care so much about what are you talking about.
However, I'm trying to talk about papal work with objectivity. I'm putting emotivism out of the equation.
I have nothing to say about people I don't know nothing, just to desire the best to everyone. If anyone was ofended, that never was my intention and I apologize for it.
Hopefully, the average Roman Catholic understands that others have their back, even if they don’t feel that from within.
As an Orthodox Christian myself, we are certainly having our own issues, but the “regular guy Christian” is in the same arena.
We’re mutually going through a great and profound time right now. But, I personally have seen many on both sides (especially in the rural areas), a comradeship that I’ve never seen before.
We’re in this together, even if we are currently apart. There’s love to be found if we just look!
My sympathy and strength can help my RC brother, and theirs can help my own.
-Your Orthodox brother in Christ.
Love it!! You are Catholics too just don't follow the Pope in Rome
About time... Deo Gratias! Good job Matt..
Please tell Joe Heschmeyer to please erase that idea that he has about the Pope being a good parish priest. A childhood friend went to a mass with him before he became a pope and he called all divorced and remarried couples in the parish and invited them to receive communion adding that he was no one to judge them. Believe me: This opened my eyes to what is behind the things that he's teaching as the pope.