I rode a friends Interceptor on Tuesday, it’s a really nice bike to ride, plenty of go. I was very impressed. I own a bike with a much bigger engine BUT honestly, these RE bikes are terrific. If I was hunting for a bike I would most likely bag one.
Great video! I am living in Germany and in 2 weeks I am doing a weekend trip through the Palatinate Forest with a friend as passenger and luggage (tent, sleeping bag, etc) on my Interceptor 650. Super excited! =)
Good comparison, Stu. I have been hem-ing and hah-ing about the Interceptor for quite some time and the introduction of the Super Meteor made that decision not easier. For the past year I looked at much video reviews and possible mods on the Interceptor to get an idea of what I would need to do to get the bike to fit my needs. It complicated matters even more as i was looking to make room for a new bike by getting rid of my Suzuki VZ800 Marauder - which was already heavily customised and perhaps the most comfortable seating position of any bike i ever owned, so teh temptation of an RE cruiser to replace the Marauder was certainly there. But the reason I was willing to let go of the Marauder is that whilst motorways are not entirely unavoidable - my preference is the B roads and country lanes - which explains why the Marauder spent so much time gathering dust whilst I was out on my Classic 500 stomping across the country side - So I wanted my second bike to be a bit better on the long distances while still well able for the twisties. So I opted for a 2021 Interceptor with 30K miles in mint condition - and before it got delivered - I had a good few boxes of parts ready to address the things I didn't like about the Interceptor - mainly the seat and some risers to increase the comfort. I was honestly a bit worried about the footpeg position - even the Classic 500 has them a good bit more forward, but after a few rides on the Interceptor i got used to it and it feels just as comfortable and it seems to give a little bit more balancing control. Already in my mind i wanted to fit luggage option at one stage and the upswept pipes are not exactly my favourite feature on the interceptor, mounting a pair of AEW 201's literally straighten that bug bear out. I already had a Tom Tom Rider for the Classic 500, so ordering and extra mount for the Interceptor wasn't breaking the bank either. Now there is a lot to be said for getting something that would tick all the boxes straight at the purchase of the bike - but I see the Interceptor (as much as the classic 500) as a platform to provide riders and tinkerers like myself the opportunity to create something more bespoke without breaking the bank. But what the above confirms that it is a matter of personal taste and what one is looking to get out of a motorcycle - it is great that Royal Enfield has all the options available.
Hi Stu, interesting topic and good to hear your opinions too. Living as I do in the centre of Europe I tend to do a lot of touring.. in all directions and where the roads tend to be faster and clearer of traffic, on the Interceptor 650. Admittedly I only tour solo and so I've been using a large saddle/tail bag and large tank bag which has worked very well. However, for this year I've decided to change the silencers for AEW 201's , much lower and straight 'peashooters' in order to accommodate hard panniers from Craven which should make touring a lot easier. Coupled with front sprocket change and YSS suspension you finish up with a very competent tourer great in 95% of situations.. fast motorway touring is still pushing it a bit but you could say the same with a fair number of other bikes costing almost twice as much. Keep up the good work, your vids are always a pleasure to watch,
Two-up on either bike here in the States would be difficult; maintaining 75-80 mph on an Interstate roadway is a must. Plus fighting the buffeting when passing a tractor-trailer could be quite challenging.
I totally understand, years ago a use to drive between San Diego and Venice to see a girlfriend every other week on my 1100 Virago and even at 90, drivers were on my tail on 805. I am considering either bike, but I'll get a better idea after the 4th of Nov when Royal Enfield will have the Super Meteors at my dealers to test drive.😎
Morning Stu, glad to see this video, I have the Interceptor and I’m touring Northern Spain in a week on it. I’ve travelled all types roads and this bike is great. I have ordered a Super Meteor (getting hold of one is difficult, as they’re all sold before they come in) I’ll pick mine up after I get back. I intend touring on it once it’s run in. Your advice has been helpful in me making decision on all the Royal Enfield’s I’ve bought. Thank you.
Totally agree on the luggage issue , just designing some brackets with the fabricator at work so I can do 2 nights in the Lakes camping . The brackets won't stay on permanently though they'll compromise the pillion seat , but as I'm travelling solo it's not a problem . Already fitted a tripper , very found it pretty reliable ! Good comparison 👍🏻
Got back my super meteor after its first service. Sticky gears now seem to work fine now. Clutch adjusted also linkage I believe. Done over 500miles now and absolutely thrilled to bits. Plus it's a real looker which helps.
Morning Stewart. Thanks for your appraisal of the Super Meteor. When I was younger my wife and I loved riding none stop from Hertfordshire to Glasgow to visit our mate. Whether I was on my Harley Davison, the XS650 Yamaha, our CB750 Honda or our Honda Goldwing Aspencade, we fitted to the front crash bars cruising pegs. On the M1 I'd stretch my legs out, and freeing up my foot pegs, my wife could stretch out her legs. And apart from petrol or loo stops, we would ride in comfort all the way. My problem now is seat height. So something lower seem more ideal and lighter than my old Harley especially with arthritis in both knees. What you said about roadside servicing is so true. Recently my mates son had his Triumph speed twin serviced. I can remember if it was a 10,000 or 200,000 mile service. But that cost around £900. We never went to Europe on the Goldwing but our Yamaha and Honda did everything we wanted and servicing camchain, tappets and chain was just simple. Glad your firing on all four cylinders again. So till next time safe enjoyable riding sir! 👍😊
Finally a video from you that I enjoyed from the beginning to the end, it tackle the question and it answered the question, straight to the point with not much bluff, thank you.
These are both exciting machines. I'm partial to the heavier, "cushier" Meteor. With the 6th gear overdrive, this bike will fit into most of my California riding adventures. And it is classy, harkening back to the 60s scene when my buddies mostly rode Triumphs. For long-distance, all-day (two-up) touring, I'll continue to use my 1994 UltraClassic ElectraGlide, now with 100K clicks on the odi and still running strong. However, this Meteor will be just right for the everyday solo journeys on backroads and byways! Thanks for your brilliant comparison.
The one question that counts to me is the one of two-up touring, for which, with the addition of a top box, which is easy, and the ability to move the rear footrests further forward, which I have done on mine, to make the fitting of any panniers, including throwovers, very simple, makes my choice of an Interceptor a no-brainer. I'll stick, given the touring seat, which I have as an option. But each to their own.
Another non biased review. It’s always fresh to hear strengths and weaknesses in this way. Although I still have a stable of Triumph’s, my mate whom I tour with, is a big advocate of the Enfield’s. Nice one✌️
You said "you can tour on any motorcycle" amd you're right. I did a 4 dayer to and around the peak district on my old YBR125 Custom, all 11hp of it! It wasnt fast, it wasn't comfortable, it didn't like hills, and it was probably technically overloaded, but I had an absolute blast.
Good work on the comparison Stu. Agree wholeheartedly on your suggestio😊n that you can tour on any bike. I have knocked up plenty of klms touring on my Continental GT and Himalayan. Two very different bikes but both capable in their own way. I hope I get a chance to ride a Super Meteor at some stage.
Have ran an 650 Interceptor for 6k miles now, 4k of them touring (NC500, Circuit of Wales, Peak District) and about to do a circuit of Ireland and the Wild Atlantic Way + a loop of Mull of Kintyre and Arran (circa 2.5k miles). Bike is great for backroads touring (UK minor A/B/Unclassified roads as these allow you to really experience scenery, local life etc) as it is agile, comfy and economical (up to 80mpg) and will take many different combinations of luggage + plenty of low down chug. Over distance on these types of roads there is little difference in avg speeds (did NC500 once on a R1200RS and once on the Interceptor - avg moving speed BM 46mph, Interceptor 42mph over 1800 miles). Always camp and find that I can get all my stuff in 2 Givi Dolomiti 36l aluminium panniers (uses the same pannier rails as the EN22's and fit nicely when paired with a set of Scorpion slip ons to give some clearance), a 40l roll bag and a tank bag. Also fitted with a proper Givi touring screen which keeps most of me dry, apart from my legs/feet.. The best thing about is every time you stop people will talk to you and are often incredulous that you are touring on such a "small" basic bike (ie not a GS or similar) and tend to forget that 30 years ago this was the way all bikes toured. I guess my only reservation is that the Super Meteor is heavier and you will lose some agility........but perhaps not much in it! I think either will provide many more smiles per miles per £ than just about any other bike (maybe not a Himalayan!).
Really love the way that super meteor is shaping up and will be watching for when it drops here in the US. RE are absolutely crushing it! In the meantime, I have my eyes on a Himmy which seems like it would be a good first bike and still complimentary to the Super Meteor down the line. Thanks for your great coverage and pragmatic viewpoints for those of us secure in our manhood 😂
Waiting for Royal Enfield to release the Classic 650; I am so in love with the Classic 350's styling. Also waiting for the 750 Continental GT. Should be a great bike to enjoy the twisty roads that are located close by on the north shore of Long Island and upstate New York. I already own an '06 Honda ST1300 for sport touring and an '06 Yamaha Roadliner S (1854 cc air-cooled V-Twin HD look-alike).
Having lived in upstate NY having the wind protection of a touring bike extends the riding season. Loved my Goldwing for that and had my Suzuki Boulevard also set up nicely with windshield , lowers etc. One thing I hope someone creates is floor boards for the Super Meteor. For Cruising they are very comfortable. I own the 350 Classic and have removed the pillion seat so it’s my solo bike. I test drove an Interceptor and really like the engine better than my Suzuki but the ergonomics did not work for me nor my passenger. We also test drove the Meteor 350 and my wife ( passenger) loved it as it was very comfortable for me and her. I just need the 650 power for two up riding. So the Super Meteor should check all the boxes to replace the Boulevard. From spy shots it appears the Classic 650 uses the Super Meteor frame with some mods on peg location, handle bars, etc. so it may be an option to modify a Super Meteor for more Classic style peg location if I ever get tired of the Cruiser feet forward set up. I’ll be test driving the Super Meteor as soon as they arrive in the states.
An eclectic mix of bikes, Franklin. Bravo! I loved my '75 Honda 750K5, which I purchased new at the age of 19. My first new bike! It quickly became my touring bike, as I added accessories from Vetter, Wixom, Rack Factory, Lockhart, Eclipse, and Dyna Guard. The Vetter Windjammer with lowers truly made it a "ride all year" MC. Clocked 100,000 reliable miles in 10 years, including commuting, trips up and down the east coast, to Tennessee and Kentucky. The big one was a 2 month cross-country trip in '79. Good times!
Just done 564 mile tour of North Wales on my Interceptor last weekend and it never missed a beat, all types of road, have got the MK2 touring seat though 😊
Having toured on my interceptor both in the UK and France currently touring on my Super Meteor I think it's down to personal preference The seat is a killer on the interceptor which is a easy fix and you have a great bike for Touring The Super Meteor apart from the stiff rear suspension is extremely comfortable easy bike to ride
Great video Stuart and agree with you, but I prefer the Interceptor's looks and have to say the girlfriend and I took two Interceptors to Spain last year and the bikes were great.
A great review looking at a specific use for these two bikes, rather than as you said, just going over what's been covered before for the bikes individually. I think that with the possible advent of a 650 Classic and 650 Himalayan, the touring choices within the Royal Enfield range will give future buyers a huge choice to closer match their specific needs. It's a shame they didn't continue with a hydraulic tappet engine though, as this makes 'side of the road' servicing a breeze, for longer distance touring. Which neatly brings us on to The Classic 500 with it's mega comfortable sprung seat, hydraulic tappets, plethora of hard and soft luggage options, available now off the shelf and proven track record for long distance touring..... I'll fetch my coat 😉
Really value your reviews. We just got some Meteor 350 for our moto training program and I look forward to some seat time as that will be my first experience with a RE. The Super Meteor 650 is due in the U.S. this summer and I'm also not a cruiser guy but looking for a good all day motorcycle. If the rider triangle fits what I'm after then a test ride will be in order. Keep up the great work and glad you are feeling better.
I would think that you might be able to modify the pipes on the interceptor to make them straight instead of up swept. Perhaps if you cut them right where they bend and put a straight spacer on and then engineered a bracket to secure them.
Great video Stuart, I had an Bonni T140 e (coffin tank) back in the day and the cans were big, as you probably recall but not as swept up as my Interceptor so was able to have fitted Sigma suitcase panniers. Luggage for the interceptor is limited and I agree the rails do take the look of it , when the bags are not on. When required for an over nighter!!, Fossil that I am, I just use a couple of Army 58 pattern large packs. (Cheep and cheerful , little expense, easily available from all leading surplus shores) You maybe familiar with these large packs but lined with a couple of black bin bags as we did back in the day and you are good to go. Also there are loads of straps to secure and hoisted up I found the packs were clear of the cans and more importantly there is no need for a supporting frame . The prettier half, wasn´t too jazzed about the foot peg position and they were moved forward at little expense by installing a pair brackets, which was going to happen anyway as a pillion, she did express discomfort after 100 miles, preferring a lower peg position. For those ex Service who are familiar, the two clips that hold the "Bum Role", on the base of the large pack, I use those clipped together behind the number plate bracket , thus providing greater stability and security, the sleeping bag straps cris cross the rear section of the seat and are covered with something comfortable for her to sit on . The two large packs draped over the seat using available loose straps are used to secure to the bike frame . As they say "Bobs ya Uncle " A tidy job can be done and ok it makes the bike look like some kinda dispatch riders bike but it works for me Keep up the the good work Stuart , appreciated and trust you are lot better now
Ok now that I've wakened at 6 am in California I need to comment about valve adjustment. I adjusted at 300, 6k and 12k miles. I found valves in spec at 18+24k. At 30k I found one valve barely out of spec. This engine is beyond marvelous. It starts and runs perfectly from freezing to 115 fahrenheit. It doesn't like to idle at 115f but I try to stay out of the desert at those temps
The Trip Machine gear works a treat with the Interceptor & not had any issues (definitely have to spend more to adapt it though). If it was just long distance I wanted a bike for then it would be the Super Meteor every time. In reality I love to simply get out on sunny Mornings for wherever my heart takes me & normally return back within a couple of hours so the Interceptor is staying 👊😎👍
As to date I've only done one long weekend on my 2020 Interceptor... about 900 miles total. (3400 miles on bike) For luggage I went with color matched Cravin's and a factory luggage rack. I use the rack to carry my rain gear, that way it has quick access without opening the Cravin's. I prefer the bench style seat over saddles because you can move a bit as with a saddle, you're in one position. My 82' Xs 650 Special has a saddle seat and it's fine for touring, but I need more stops to let the lower back recover. It could be my age (71) but it's not a problem on the Interceptor. Today if I was in the market for a new bike and saw both bikes on the showroom floor... I'd still go with the Interceptor...perhaps the Super is set up to tour, but the Ceptor can be packaged nicely for distance adventures. 😎
I largely agree with your opinions Stu, and I would add that a decent top box and tank bag alongside the smaller panniers would probably provide enough storage on the interceptor for most people. If you want to take your best ball-gown, then get a GS!
There are several aftermarket exhaust systems available for the Interceptor. At least two are straight back. Also, seats. Plus, the low seat height allows for various seat pads. Can't wait to ride one.
People may aspire to touring but how many will take long endurance trips on a bike? It would have been more beneficial to hear your opinion on which was a better overall bike. The interceptor had always needed silencer setup like the super meteor. It just more practical and I think more visually appealing then that upswept look. I find the classic 500 seating ideal. In fact there is no wind blast to my body or helmet at all while riding my classic in its naked configuration . I havent figured out why yet. I know with crash bars there is more wind and even when I put the recommended wind screen I got buffeting on the helmet. I was thinking do I really need more speed and power? Maybe in the highway but it will do 65 mph all day with ease. If I ride defensively and cautiously then more power and speed arent really an issue. After all the time saved traveling over 65 is nominal at best. Hmmmm.... I am convincing myself that my classic 500 is still a great ride and all I need or want. Well at least for now. Lol......
i got a 66 bullet like a hard tail lol the ole sprung seat is still the first one on it waz built to last the old enfileds i use it everyday i see more than i do on my vtr 1000 dont use it ride the bullet all the time
Yep my 2012 has served me well. I converted it to carb. The EFI seemed like it made engine run hard and kicking it over was a spotty endeavor. Now it runs smooth. It f never feels stressed and kick starts easy every time. 👍
Especially agree about the abominable RE spec paneer rails. Mine sit in the box with the nearly equally abominable luggage rack. I modified a set of universal toss over canvas paneers to carry my lunchbox and safety gear for work. To make them fit better for day to day. They’re made in India. Ironically they don’t fit what’s probably the best selling Indian built world bike out of the box. But I digress. Eventually the luggage rack will get a road trip, then go back in the box and I really fancy the Trip Machine outlaw bags, but dang they’re expensive. I do wish I had discovered them and your channel before I bought those RE rails though. A motorcycle tourer I am not. A long day’s riding for me is about 200 miles. But maybe one of these days. Unlikely. But maybe.
I hear you Dain 🌲 about weight & forward controls they're not for everyone especially the Bad Back Biker Brigade.For them a modified Interceptor with better forks & throw overs or Dry bag seat bag system. Interceptor not best Pillion bike so seat bag system is ok unless you want a hard pannier then there are a few choices.I reckon the Classic 650 be a better choice for looks & seating position especially for bad back bikers & probably have the same Showa forks as Super Meteor.
A Classic 650 or a Interceptor 750 with Showa forks & premium fit & finish of Super Meteor might swing me back from my Triumph once ankles strengthened & toughened up in future.I do prefer the look of a modern classic but as you know weight was my major factor at this time in choosing a bike.
Lighter weight easier to pick up when u drop it on our loose gravel roads hey RR. Gotta be able to grip the bike with your knees, like riding a horse,can't do that with foward control. On Harley's or cruiser u gotta grip with bum cheeks ha ha.
Great video again! I have a question for all your viewers: i bought one of the last thousand Classic 500 Royal Enfields, the tribute model. It has around 700 km on it. Ofcoarse it is as new. My body is not in great shape anymore due to a muscledisease. So i am thinking of selling it. Some people say that the bike will increase in value in the future and that i should wait a few years . What do you think? After all , it vibrates without the balance rod. Other newer models are more comfortable. Thanks for thinking along folks!
Suspension and the stock seat on the INT are "adequate" at best. I swapped the seat and got YSS all around and the bike, in my opinion, is extremely well behaved and glued to the road. Leaps and bounds better than stock. I've no doubt RE addressed these "stock" issues with the Super Meteor. The way my INT handles-- Bridgestone Battlax 46s have replaced the stock Brazilian Pirellis as well-- is a bike I'd take for 5,000 miles without question. I DO agree that the Super Meteor is built for such trips better than the Interceptor.
I have taken my Interceptor on some long trips (up to 1800 miles) and honestly, with a tent, sleeping bag, inflatable mattress, camping stove and camping chair strapped to the back with bungee cords it has not missed a beat. Sheepskin on the seat and Bob's your uncle!
Its NOT just Touring as a riding experience, but day-to-day riding where Load-carrying capability must be factored in. i.e. how much luggage-type possessions can be transported from A to B, (and possibly home again), if one does not have access to a automobile, van, car & trailer, or small truck? Back in the mid-80s I carried items such as a stereo videorecorder home from purchase, and on another occasion a brand-new folding bicycle, aboard the rear of a Honda VT500E. Just five years ago, I brought home a 6' tall refrigerator aboard a small trailer towed by my Suzuki Burgman 650 Exec.
If it was upto me I never ride for long hours continuously. I need several breaks. The meteor's seating position is an instant win for me. There's something about the relaxed seating posture of this kind of bike that makes going on highways effortless. The more I have to bend forward to grab the handle bar the more uncomfortable I get. Can't ride track bikes at all they start hurting my wrists in half an hour
Another beautiful video, Stewart; a lovely place you live in. If you have the time, what is the castle we saw early on and where is it located? Obviously we have nothing to equal it in the USA. Thanks sincerely...
I have done long distance ton both cruisers and standard motorcycles. I find that dirt and gravel roads are miserable with feet forward. You loose the ability to stand on the pegs. Also, after many hours in the saddle, everything hurts, butt, back, neck, shoulders, etc.....Give me a standard bike with my a long, flat seat for any long distance rides. Move around on the seat, yes; stand on the pegs, yes; straighten your back and neck to relieve helmet stress, yes. Recently bought an interceptor, did 200 miles the day I bought it. It needs few tweaks, but overall it's an awesome bike .
I think both these bikes are great for touring it just depends on which style and seating position you prefer. The out the box comparison is interesting but these bikes have so many options it is really easy to make improvements and personalise the ride. I use my Interceptor on a daily commute of 100 miles round trip and adding a tall screen changed the riding experience a lot meaning I rode through the winter without too much problem. I do feel the standard seat after an hour though. A few videos ago you did your definition of a Cruiser, I think a video on your definition of a tourer would be useful and amusing. I do enjoy your videos thank you.
Have a R.E. Classic 350. Love it. Wanted a larger bike to accommodate the higher speeds our highways require, 75 mph. Dealer has Triumph and R.Enfield bikes, looked at the RE 650 Int and Triumph T120. Was a tough call. Buying a motorcycle is an emotional experience, not a practical one. I learned to ride on a 1960 Triumph Bonneville back in the mid 70's. Guess you know which one I bought, Triumph T120. Guess the real deciding factor was the amount of money I would've had to spend on the 650 to make it the bike I wanted, even though it would've been much cheaper than the Triumph. They're both great bikes, bikes are a personal choice, chose yours and enjoy!
Do you still have the 350? Which one gets ridden more? I have a 350 but find myself wanting more power for those times when I need to pass or accelerate out of the way of on-coming traffic.
@@hiddenmortimer5189 Of course I kept the RE 350! Probably ride both bikes about the same but the 350 gets more attention and comments where ever it goes, it stands out. Have the Signals desert tan model. The Triumph just looks like another motorcycle to most unless you're familiar with the brand or rode one back in the day like I did. The 350 is what it is, a fun low powered bike for running around town.
Agreed, the pipes are an issue on the Interceptor, you can get lowered pipes, but it's an extra expense. I'm looking forward to the reviews on the Super fitted with windscreen. I noticed the Super screen has an air balance port in it, hopefully that will help with the buffeting that most cruiser windshields are prone to. From 2003 to 2020 I rode Victory cruiser bikes, every windscreen caused my head to shake like I had some sort of palsy. 🙄 As a result I was left trying to hold on and hold myself up without assistance, which can wear you out quickly. The Interceptor allows you to use your legs for more support and give your back and backside an easier time in the saddle. For me, the Super would not be a touring bike in naked form.
My thought on the rear suspension issue on the Meteor is that RE may have set it up for hard bags. Not having them on your review bike seems a bit odd because whilst plains cruisers exist most seem to end up as baggers, unless Sunday trips to the coffee shop is your scene.
Great to see the comparison,but get rid of the bulky silencers on the interceptor for some way nicer pipes and there are many options.More suited for solo riders granted,but surely easier on the eye than a harley bagger clone.
I fully agree with you on the upswept pipes on the Interceptor - i use panniers and this unnecessary design feature means I wouldn't buy one for touring. Sorry RE.
This is the reason why you should own more than one bike, you really need one for touring one for showing, preferably a classic another for bad weather and work and a work progress, I’m thinking a minimum of 4 bikes 😂
I can’t argue with this review, but I do love my Interceptor and won’t be changing it soon! I will be going to Scotland for 3 weeks in June and will be packing my usual 2 sets of underpants and socks in my bumbag! 😉
I would imagine its the 2s up situation that would make me prefer a GS over the smaller 650 . I once observed an elderly couple who'd travelled up from Hull up to Lordstones cafe on a Triumph 650 ... high in the cleveland Hills some 80 plus me away. His wife hung on the back clinging on .. I just thought that looks so wrong 😢😢
Morning Uncle Stu, seeing as you also own a few Triumphs which motorcycle in your garage is the best tourer? As always I’ll be watching your next video so until next time ride safe 😉👍🏻
One question sir, who makes the tail bag I see on the interceptor? I own one and will be adding the Trip Machine saddle bag. But think that tail bag you use would come in handy over my cargo netting...
My wife had a bike with forward pegs and controls, and what I disliked about them is when you are going to go over a rough bump, like a bad railroad crossing, you can't stand on the pegs and let the bike rock under you.
Just my opinion.... The SM650 might be a solution looking for a problem. My attraction to the brand is not "me too" bikes but something unique. My INT 650 gets questions and intrigue everywhere I go. No one will notice the SM650. Now...I have zero need to stand out. BUT, I think it does say a lot about the GT, INT and the classic 350. It's clear that RE is trying to move into the "everything else" market. That's fine. In the US the brand has nowhere to go but up. However, the bike is just to small for most in the states.
Depends on what kind of roads you prefer touring on , i prefer touring on country roads and mountain roads , curvy hilly perfect for the lighter interceptor as most country roads here have sharp bends and corners , tank bag , saddle bags back seat bag and on the rear rack a kayaking bag for the lighter clothes and such , keep my heavy stuf balanced between the wheels to not change the bikes natural handling charactiristics . For the bum comfort my sheep skin seat cover .
As ever an even handed review. I think the beauty of the interceptor is it's all round capability. It seems an insult to call it the ultimate generic motorcycle, instead perhaps the most versatile of modern bikes. Once again the SM tugs at my heart strings, but I'm still drifting towards the interceptor as my next ride. My current 350 meteor is a beautiful little runabout. It has a real bike feel. The SM would probably narrow the field too much for me, and an interceptor with a red and chrome tank, spoked wheels would certainly assuage my craving to be back on a proper British bike, made in India.
I know, I’m throwing some oranges and bananas into an apples to apples comparison, but for the difference in price, you could upgrade the suspension and seat on the interceptor, and be able to raise up and adjust your position from time to time.
I own a Triumph Bonneville and an America, which are direct style and geometry comparisons to the Interceptor and Super Meteor. I have toured on both, and can confirm that the America is far superior at it. Whilst I get roughly the same amount of luggage on either (perhaps slightly more on the Bonneville), the America is like riding an armchair down the road, and wins hands down on long distance comfort. So I reckon your conclusions on the Enfield’s are probably correct Stu.
In my opinion there is no contest . The Super Meteor seems to be aimed at a USA market . It has a Harley look . For me on looks alone it has to be the Interceptor . I would not be able to live with the Super Meteor . I just don’t like the styling !
I can’t stand the styling of the Super Meteor. It reminds me of the discontinued Triumph America. I absolutely love the look of the Interceptor. Of course that’s my own subjective opinion and both are great motorcycles functionally.
Both motorcycles have their strong and weak points. Unfortunately the Interceptor has a fatal flaw. Tube type tires. Otherwise, it would be a wonderful bike for the type of riding it was designed for. But for touring, the Meteor wins hands down. I have around a million miles on motorcycles, most of it long distance touring, and almost all of that on cruiser style motorcycles. Several of them have had shaft drive. I didn't pick cruisers so much for their looks, but because their riding position is much more comfortable than any other type of bike. They almost always have very comfortable seats, and the seat-bar-footpeg placement puts you in a very comfortable riding position. You are not folded up, hunched over the bars with a lot of your upper body weight on your arms and shoulders, and your neck bent back so you can see ahead. Your knees are not bent all the way back to reach the pegs. There are no pressure points. Most of your weight is supported by the seat. I have ridden many 12-14 hour days on cruisers, and didn't hurt all over. One 20 mile ride on a crotch rocket put me in pain for days.
Fortunately, our prayers have been answered 👍. Both the Interceptor and the Continental GT are available in "Black" versions this year. As well as alloy rims (tubeless) they also get a few upgraded items from the Super Meteor. The black finish on the engine cases will also make them a bit more durable for all-year riding 👍
I’m not arguing with that at all. I also do a lot of long-distance riding but I don’t think my spine would be happy if I couldn’t weight the Peg‘s when going over rough roads.
Help me Mr. F...son gave me a 2006 500 bullet. Says if I can't start it, I have to get knee surgery. Please save me or the yank hospital will kill me.😢 p.s. have Harley 1200 and no prob w gentlemen sausage😂
Oh! Naughty Naughty! Accusing insecure men feeling compelled to buy a motorcycle with a larger than necessary engine in order to compensate for a small male appendage. Lol!!! 😂
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I rode a friends Interceptor on Tuesday, it’s a really nice bike to ride, plenty of go. I was very impressed. I own a bike with a much bigger engine BUT honestly, these RE bikes are terrific. If I was hunting for a bike I would most likely bag one.
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Thanks I was wondering which would be better for long distance. Also the extra weight of the super meteor was a little worrying.
Great video! I am living in Germany and in 2 weeks I am doing a weekend trip through the Palatinate Forest with a friend as passenger and luggage (tent, sleeping bag, etc) on my Interceptor 650. Super excited! =)
Good comparison, Stu. I have been hem-ing and hah-ing about the Interceptor for quite some time and the introduction of the Super Meteor made that decision not easier. For the past year I looked at much video reviews and possible mods on the Interceptor to get an idea of what I would need to do to get the bike to fit my needs. It complicated matters even more as i was looking to make room for a new bike by getting rid of my Suzuki VZ800 Marauder - which was already heavily customised and perhaps the most comfortable seating position of any bike i ever owned, so teh temptation of an RE cruiser to replace the Marauder was certainly there. But the reason I was willing to let go of the Marauder is that whilst motorways are not entirely unavoidable - my preference is the B roads and country lanes - which explains why the Marauder spent so much time gathering dust whilst I was out on my Classic 500 stomping across the country side - So I wanted my second bike to be a bit better on the long distances while still well able for the twisties. So I opted for a 2021 Interceptor with 30K miles in mint condition - and before it got delivered - I had a good few boxes of parts ready to address the things I didn't like about the Interceptor - mainly the seat and some risers to increase the comfort. I was honestly a bit worried about the footpeg position - even the Classic 500 has them a good bit more forward, but after a few rides on the Interceptor i got used to it and it feels just as comfortable and it seems to give a little bit more balancing control. Already in my mind i wanted to fit luggage option at one stage and the upswept pipes are not exactly my favourite feature on the interceptor, mounting a pair of AEW 201's literally straighten that bug bear out. I already had a Tom Tom Rider for the Classic 500, so ordering and extra mount for the Interceptor wasn't breaking the bank either. Now there is a lot to be said for getting something that would tick all the boxes straight at the purchase of the bike - but I see the Interceptor (as much as the classic 500) as a platform to provide riders and tinkerers like myself the opportunity to create something more bespoke without breaking the bank. But what the above confirms that it is a matter of personal taste and what one is looking to get out of a motorcycle - it is great that Royal Enfield has all the options available.
Hi Stu, interesting topic and good to hear your opinions too. Living as I do in the centre of Europe I tend to do a lot of touring.. in all directions and where the roads tend to be faster and clearer of traffic, on the Interceptor 650. Admittedly I only tour solo and so I've been using a large saddle/tail bag and large tank bag which has worked very well. However, for this year I've decided to change the silencers for AEW 201's , much lower and straight 'peashooters' in order to accommodate hard panniers from Craven which should make touring a lot easier. Coupled with front sprocket change and YSS suspension you finish up with a very competent tourer great in 95% of situations.. fast motorway touring is still pushing it a bit but you could say the same with a fair number of other bikes costing almost twice as much. Keep up the good work, your vids are always a pleasure to watch,
Two-up on either bike here in the States would be difficult; maintaining 75-80 mph on an Interstate roadway is a must. Plus fighting the buffeting when passing a tractor-trailer could be quite challenging.
I totally understand, years ago a use to drive between San Diego and Venice to see a girlfriend every other week on my 1100 Virago and even at 90, drivers were on my tail on 805. I am considering either bike, but I'll get a better idea after the 4th of Nov when Royal Enfield will have the Super Meteors at my dealers to test drive.😎
picked up my Super Meteor at the weekend, loving it so far.
Your posting at 6 am makes it 10 pm yesterday here in California. It's time to take out the Mastiffs.
Morning Stu, glad to see this video, I have the Interceptor and I’m touring Northern Spain in a week on it. I’ve travelled all types roads and this bike is great. I have ordered a Super Meteor (getting hold of one is difficult, as they’re all sold before they come in) I’ll pick mine up after I get back. I intend touring on it once it’s run in. Your advice has been helpful in me making decision on all the Royal Enfield’s I’ve bought. Thank you.
If near Barcelona give shout
The super meteor looks stunning in the black with white pinstripes !
I look forward to trying one (hopefully).
A very useful comparison, thanks Stuart. Good to see that you are” back on all four cylinders”😊.
Totally agree on the luggage issue , just designing some brackets with the fabricator at work so I can do 2 nights in the Lakes camping . The brackets won't stay on permanently though they'll compromise the pillion seat , but as I'm travelling solo it's not a problem .
Already fitted a tripper , very found it pretty reliable ! Good comparison 👍🏻
Got back my super meteor after its first service. Sticky gears now seem to work fine now. Clutch adjusted also linkage I believe. Done over 500miles now and absolutely thrilled to bits. Plus it's a real looker which helps.
Morning Stewart. Thanks for your appraisal of the Super Meteor. When I was younger my wife and I loved riding none stop from Hertfordshire to Glasgow to visit our mate. Whether I was on my Harley Davison, the XS650 Yamaha, our CB750 Honda or our Honda Goldwing Aspencade, we fitted to the front crash bars cruising pegs. On the M1 I'd stretch my legs out, and freeing up my foot pegs, my wife could stretch out her legs. And apart from petrol or loo stops, we would ride in comfort all the way. My problem now is seat height. So something lower seem more ideal and lighter than my old Harley especially with arthritis in both knees. What you said about roadside servicing is so true. Recently my mates son had his Triumph speed twin serviced. I can remember if it was a 10,000 or 200,000 mile service. But that cost around £900. We never went to Europe on the Goldwing but our Yamaha and Honda did everything we wanted and servicing camchain, tappets and chain was just simple. Glad your firing on all four cylinders again. So till next time safe enjoyable riding sir! 👍😊
Finally a video from you that I enjoyed from the beginning to the end, it tackle the question and it answered the question, straight to the point with not much bluff, thank you.
These are both exciting machines. I'm partial to the heavier, "cushier" Meteor. With the 6th gear overdrive, this bike will fit into most of my California riding adventures. And it is classy, harkening back to the 60s scene when my buddies mostly rode Triumphs. For long-distance, all-day (two-up) touring, I'll continue to use my 1994 UltraClassic ElectraGlide, now with 100K clicks on the odi and still running strong. However, this Meteor will be just right for the everyday solo journeys on backroads and byways! Thanks for your brilliant comparison.
Brilliant video as always Stuart and I personally would go for the super meteor touring for the wind protection 😃👍🏻
Another great video, glad you’re on the mend and hopefully make full recovery soon.
The one question that counts to me is the one of two-up touring, for which, with the addition of a top box, which is easy, and the ability to move the rear footrests further forward, which I have done on mine, to make the fitting of any panniers, including throwovers, very simple, makes my choice of an Interceptor a no-brainer. I'll stick, given the touring seat, which I have as an option. But each to their own.
Another non biased review. It’s always fresh to hear strengths and weaknesses in this way. Although I still have a stable of Triumph’s, my mate whom I tour with, is a big advocate of the Enfield’s. Nice one✌️
You said "you can tour on any motorcycle" amd you're right. I did a 4 dayer to and around the peak district on my old YBR125 Custom, all 11hp of it! It wasnt fast, it wasn't comfortable, it didn't like hills, and it was probably technically overloaded, but I had an absolute blast.
Good work on the comparison Stu. Agree wholeheartedly on your suggestio😊n that you can tour on any bike. I have knocked up plenty of klms touring on my Continental GT and Himalayan. Two very different bikes but both capable in their own way. I hope I get a chance to ride a Super Meteor at some stage.
Have ran an 650 Interceptor for 6k miles now, 4k of them touring (NC500, Circuit of Wales, Peak District) and about to do a circuit of Ireland and the Wild Atlantic Way + a loop of Mull of Kintyre and Arran (circa 2.5k miles). Bike is great for backroads touring (UK minor A/B/Unclassified roads as these allow you to really experience scenery, local life etc) as it is agile, comfy and economical (up to 80mpg) and will take many different combinations of luggage + plenty of low down chug. Over distance on these types of roads there is little difference in avg speeds (did NC500 once on a R1200RS and once on the Interceptor - avg moving speed BM 46mph, Interceptor 42mph over 1800 miles). Always camp and find that I can get all my stuff in 2 Givi Dolomiti 36l aluminium panniers (uses the same pannier rails as the EN22's and fit nicely when paired with a set of Scorpion slip ons to give some clearance), a 40l roll bag and a tank bag. Also fitted with a proper Givi touring screen which keeps most of me dry, apart from my legs/feet.. The best thing about is every time you stop people will talk to you and are often incredulous that you are touring on such a "small" basic bike (ie not a GS or similar) and tend to forget that 30 years ago this was the way all bikes toured. I guess my only reservation is that the Super Meteor is heavier and you will lose some agility........but perhaps not much in it! I think either will provide many more smiles per miles per £ than just about any other bike (maybe not a Himalayan!).
Really love the way that super meteor is shaping up and will be watching for when it drops here in the US. RE are absolutely crushing it! In the meantime, I have my eyes on a Himmy which seems like it would be a good first bike and still complimentary to the Super Meteor down the line. Thanks for your great coverage and pragmatic viewpoints for those of us secure in our manhood 😂
Waiting for Royal Enfield to release the Classic 650; I am so in love with the Classic 350's styling. Also waiting for the 750 Continental GT. Should be a great bike to enjoy the twisty roads that are located close by on the north shore of Long Island and upstate New York. I already own an '06 Honda ST1300 for sport touring and an '06 Yamaha Roadliner S (1854 cc air-cooled V-Twin HD look-alike).
Having lived in upstate NY having the wind protection of a touring bike extends the riding season. Loved my Goldwing for that and had my Suzuki Boulevard also set up nicely with windshield , lowers etc. One thing I hope someone creates is floor boards for the Super Meteor. For Cruising they are very comfortable. I own the 350 Classic and have removed the pillion seat so it’s my solo bike. I test drove an Interceptor and really like the engine better than my Suzuki but the ergonomics did not work for me nor my passenger. We also test drove the Meteor 350 and my wife ( passenger) loved it as it was very comfortable for me and her. I just need the 650 power for two up riding. So the Super Meteor should check all the boxes to replace the Boulevard. From spy shots it appears the Classic 650 uses the Super Meteor frame with some mods on peg location, handle bars, etc. so it may be an option to modify a Super Meteor for more Classic style peg location if I ever get tired of the Cruiser feet forward set up. I’ll be test driving the Super Meteor as soon as they arrive in the states.
An eclectic mix of bikes, Franklin. Bravo!
I loved my '75 Honda 750K5, which I purchased new at the age of 19. My first new bike! It quickly became my touring bike, as I added accessories from Vetter, Wixom, Rack Factory, Lockhart, Eclipse, and Dyna Guard. The Vetter Windjammer with lowers truly made it a "ride all year" MC. Clocked 100,000 reliable miles in 10 years, including commuting, trips up and down the east coast, to Tennessee and Kentucky. The big one was a 2 month cross-country trip in '79.
Good times!
Just done 564 mile tour of North Wales on my Interceptor last weekend and it never missed a beat, all types of road, have got the MK2 touring seat though 😊
Nice job. I had a feeling you were leaning towards the Super all the way. Nice bike.
Having toured on my interceptor both in the UK and France currently touring on my Super Meteor I think it's down to personal preference
The seat is a killer on the interceptor which is a easy fix and you have a great bike for Touring
The Super Meteor apart from the stiff rear suspension is extremely comfortable easy bike to ride
What is the seat fix for the Interceptor?
@@willhooke I had my seat rebuilt by Highlander upholstery
Great video Stuart and agree with you, but I prefer the Interceptor's looks and have to say the girlfriend and I took two Interceptors to Spain last year and the bikes were great.
Yes Straightforward Thanks
Thanks!
Thank You Nathan!
A great review looking at a specific use for these two bikes, rather than as you said, just going over what's been covered before for the bikes individually. I think that with the possible advent of a 650 Classic and 650 Himalayan, the touring choices within the Royal Enfield range will give future buyers a huge choice to closer match their specific needs. It's a shame they didn't continue with a hydraulic tappet engine though, as this makes 'side of the road' servicing a breeze, for longer distance touring. Which neatly brings us on to The Classic 500 with it's mega comfortable sprung seat, hydraulic tappets, plethora of hard and soft luggage options, available now off the shelf and proven track record for long distance touring..... I'll fetch my coat 😉
Great review, though I generally find the best bike is the one sitting in your garage that you haven't ridden for ages..
Really value your reviews. We just got some Meteor 350 for our moto training program and I look forward to some seat time as that will be my first experience with a RE. The Super Meteor 650 is due in the U.S. this summer and I'm also not a cruiser guy but looking for a good all day motorcycle. If the rider triangle fits what I'm after then a test ride will be in order. Keep up the great work and glad you are feeling better.
I would think that you might be able to modify the pipes on the interceptor to make them straight instead of up swept. Perhaps if you cut them right where they bend and put a straight spacer on and then engineered a bracket to secure them.
There are aftermarket baffles that do just that - I got myself some AEW 201's that do that job
Hitchcock do a pair as well. Look great but not cheap
Yes...it's easy. My buddy and I did his. Cost NOTHING.
Great video Stuart, I had an Bonni T140 e (coffin tank) back in the day and the cans were big, as you probably recall but not as swept up as my Interceptor so was able to have fitted Sigma suitcase panniers.
Luggage for the interceptor is limited and I agree the rails do take the look of it , when the bags are not on. When required for an over nighter!!, Fossil that I am, I just use a couple of Army 58 pattern large packs. (Cheep and cheerful , little expense, easily available from all leading surplus shores)
You maybe familiar with these large packs but lined with a couple of black bin bags as we did back in the day and you are good to go.
Also there are loads of straps to secure and hoisted up I found the packs were clear of the cans and more importantly there is no need for a supporting frame . The prettier half, wasn´t too jazzed about the foot peg position and they were moved forward at little expense by installing a pair brackets, which was going to happen anyway as a pillion, she did express discomfort after 100 miles, preferring a lower peg position.
For those ex Service who are familiar, the two clips that hold the "Bum Role", on the base of the large pack, I use those clipped together behind the number plate bracket , thus providing greater stability and security, the sleeping bag straps cris cross the rear section of the seat and are covered with something comfortable for her to sit on . The two large packs draped over the seat using available loose straps are used to secure to the bike frame . As they say "Bobs ya Uncle "
A tidy job can be done and ok it makes the bike look like some kinda dispatch riders bike but it works for me
Keep up the the good work Stuart , appreciated and trust you are lot better now
Good video commentary and videography👍
Ok now that I've wakened at 6 am in California I need to comment about valve adjustment. I adjusted at 300, 6k and 12k miles. I found valves in spec at 18+24k. At 30k I found one valve barely out of spec.
This engine is beyond marvelous. It starts and runs perfectly from freezing to 115 fahrenheit. It doesn't like to idle at 115f but I try to stay out of the desert at those temps
Had a test ride on a Super Meteor last week, bugger, before it was only an idea😂 Great model
If you’re on the lookout for that one motorbike video that makes mention of a ‘Gentleman sausage’ then you’ve found it….
The Trip Machine gear works a treat with the Interceptor & not had any issues (definitely have to spend more to adapt it though). If it was just long distance I wanted a bike for then it would be the Super Meteor every time. In reality I love to simply get out on sunny Mornings for wherever my heart takes me & normally return back within a couple of hours so the Interceptor is staying 👊😎👍
As to date I've only done one long weekend on my 2020 Interceptor... about 900 miles total. (3400 miles on bike) For luggage I went with color matched Cravin's and a factory luggage rack. I use the rack to carry my rain gear, that way it has quick access without opening the Cravin's. I prefer the bench style seat over saddles because you can move a bit as with a saddle, you're in one position. My 82' Xs 650 Special has a saddle seat and it's fine for touring, but I need more stops to let the lower back recover. It could be my age (71) but it's not a problem on the Interceptor. Today if I was in the market for a new bike and saw both bikes on the showroom floor... I'd still go with the Interceptor...perhaps the Super is set up to tour, but the Ceptor can be packaged nicely for distance adventures. 😎
I largely agree with your opinions Stu, and I would add that a decent top box and tank bag alongside the smaller panniers would probably provide enough storage on the interceptor for most people. If you want to take your best ball-gown, then get a GS!
Hmmm now I have a decision to make. Thanks for your opinions.
There are several aftermarket exhaust systems available for the Interceptor.
At least two are straight back.
Also, seats. Plus, the low seat height allows for various seat pads.
Can't wait to ride one.
Could you post the name of the two exhaust systems that go straight back? Thanks
People may aspire to touring but how many will take long endurance trips on a bike? It would have been more beneficial to hear your opinion on which was a better overall bike. The interceptor had always needed silencer setup like the super meteor. It just more practical and I think more visually appealing then that upswept look. I find the classic 500 seating ideal. In fact there is no wind blast to my body or helmet at all while riding my classic in its naked configuration . I havent figured out why yet. I know with crash bars there is more wind and even when I put the recommended wind screen I got buffeting on the helmet. I was thinking do I really need more speed and power? Maybe in the highway but it will do 65 mph all day with ease. If I ride defensively and cautiously then more power and speed arent really an issue. After all the time saved traveling over 65 is nominal at best. Hmmmm.... I am convincing myself that my classic 500 is still a great ride and all I need or want. Well at least for now. Lol......
i got a 66 bullet like a hard tail lol the ole sprung seat is still the first one on it waz built to last the old enfileds i use it everyday i see more than i do on my vtr 1000 dont use it ride the bullet all the time
Yep my 2012 has served me well. I converted it to carb. The EFI seemed like it made engine run hard and kicking it over was a spotty endeavor. Now it runs smooth. It f never feels stressed and kick starts easy every time. 👍
In the states....everyone.
@@WaterDR-tw8re yep I am in texas.
Especially agree about the abominable RE spec paneer rails. Mine sit in the box with the nearly equally abominable luggage rack. I modified a set of universal toss over canvas paneers to carry my lunchbox and safety gear for work. To make them fit better for day to day. They’re made in India. Ironically they don’t fit what’s probably the best selling Indian built world bike out of the box. But I digress. Eventually the luggage rack will get a road trip, then go back in the box and I really fancy the Trip Machine outlaw bags, but dang they’re expensive. I do wish I had discovered them and your channel before I bought those RE rails though. A motorcycle tourer I am not. A long day’s riding for me is about 200 miles. But maybe one of these days. Unlikely. But maybe.
Both great bikes, love that 650 twin but for me the lighter of the two, the Interceptor, and I'm not big on foward controls.
I hear you Dain 🌲 about weight & forward controls they're not for everyone especially the Bad Back Biker Brigade.For them a modified Interceptor with better forks & throw overs or Dry bag seat bag system.
Interceptor not best Pillion bike so seat bag system is ok unless you want a hard pannier then there are a few choices.I reckon the Classic 650 be a better choice for looks & seating position especially for bad back bikers & probably have the same Showa forks as Super Meteor.
A Classic 650 or a Interceptor 750 with Showa forks & premium fit & finish of Super Meteor might swing me back from my Triumph once ankles strengthened & toughened up in future.I do prefer the look of a modern classic but as you know weight was my major factor at this time in choosing a bike.
Lighter weight easier to pick up when u drop it on our loose gravel roads hey RR. Gotta be able to grip the bike with your knees, like riding a horse,can't do that with foward control. On Harley's or cruiser u gotta grip with bum cheeks ha ha.
@@ruahinesrider Definitely 🤞for a Classic 650🙂
@@daintree2455 Oil tank under seat & on hot day get swamp arse on HD
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Hey Stuart i agree that the sm had better seat but I'm very sceptical because of the suspension stiffness! I really can feel it in my buck already!!!
Great video again! I have a question for all your viewers: i bought one of the last thousand Classic 500 Royal Enfields, the tribute model. It has around 700 km on it. Ofcoarse it is as new. My body is not in great shape anymore due to a muscledisease. So i am thinking of selling it. Some people say that the bike will increase in value in the future and that i should wait a few years . What do you think? After all , it vibrates without the balance rod. Other newer models are more comfortable. Thanks for thinking along folks!
It's an investment, but if RE comes out with 650 Classic perhaps 500s demand will reduce... Better to sell now than later.
@@malluschach3391 thanks Mallu! Anyone else with an opinion? Would appriciate it!
Nice one Stuart....
Suspension and the stock seat on the INT are "adequate" at best. I swapped the seat and got YSS all around and the bike, in my opinion, is extremely well behaved and glued to the road. Leaps and bounds better than stock. I've no doubt RE addressed these "stock" issues with the Super Meteor. The way my INT handles-- Bridgestone Battlax 46s have replaced the stock Brazilian Pirellis as well-- is a bike I'd take for 5,000 miles without question. I DO agree that the Super Meteor is built for such trips better than the Interceptor.
You should buy a Super Meteor next. We need more videos on it
I have taken my Interceptor on some long trips (up to 1800 miles) and honestly, with a tent, sleeping bag, inflatable mattress, camping stove and camping chair strapped to the back with bungee cords it has not missed a beat. Sheepskin on the seat and Bob's your uncle!
Its NOT just Touring as a riding experience, but day-to-day riding where Load-carrying capability must be factored in.
i.e. how much luggage-type possessions can be transported from A to B, (and possibly home again), if one does not have access to a automobile, van, car & trailer, or small truck?
Back in the mid-80s I carried items such as a stereo videorecorder home from purchase, and on another occasion a brand-new folding bicycle, aboard the rear of a Honda VT500E.
Just five years ago, I brought home a 6' tall refrigerator aboard a small trailer towed by my Suzuki Burgman 650 Exec.
If it was upto me I never ride for long hours continuously. I need several breaks. The meteor's seating position is an instant win for me. There's something about the relaxed seating posture of this kind of bike that makes going on highways effortless. The more I have to bend forward to grab the handle bar the more uncomfortable I get. Can't ride track bikes at all they start hurting my wrists in half an hour
Another beautiful video, Stewart; a lovely place you live in. If you have the time, what is the castle we saw early on and where is it located? Obviously we have nothing to equal it in the USA. Thanks sincerely...
Castle Bolton. did publish a video a couple of years back.
I have done long distance ton both cruisers and standard motorcycles. I find that dirt and gravel roads are miserable with feet forward. You loose the ability to stand on the pegs. Also, after many hours in the saddle, everything hurts, butt, back, neck, shoulders, etc.....Give me a standard bike with my a long, flat seat for any long distance rides. Move around on the seat, yes; stand on the pegs, yes; straighten your back and neck to relieve helmet stress, yes. Recently bought an interceptor, did 200 miles the day I bought it. It needs few tweaks, but overall it's an awesome bike .
I think both these bikes are great for touring it just depends on which style and seating position you prefer. The out the box comparison is interesting but these bikes have so many options it is really easy to make improvements and personalise the ride. I use my Interceptor on a daily commute of 100 miles round trip and adding a tall screen changed the riding experience a lot meaning I rode through the winter without too much problem. I do feel the standard seat after an hour though. A few videos ago you did your definition of a Cruiser, I think a video on your definition of a tourer would be useful and amusing. I do enjoy your videos thank you.
Hi chris, which tall screen did you buy??
❤ good video dear Sir
Have a R.E. Classic 350. Love it. Wanted a larger bike to accommodate the higher speeds our highways require, 75 mph. Dealer has Triumph and R.Enfield bikes, looked at the RE 650 Int and Triumph T120. Was a tough call. Buying a motorcycle is an emotional experience, not a practical one. I learned to ride on a 1960 Triumph Bonneville back in the mid 70's. Guess you know which one I bought, Triumph T120. Guess the real deciding factor was the amount of money I would've had to spend on the 650 to make it the bike I wanted, even though it would've been much cheaper than the Triumph. They're both great bikes, bikes are a personal choice, chose yours and enjoy!
Do you still have the 350? Which one gets ridden more? I have a 350 but find myself wanting more power for those times when I need to pass or accelerate out of the way of on-coming traffic.
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Of course I kept the RE 350! Probably ride both bikes about the same but the 350 gets more attention and comments where ever it goes, it stands out. Have the Signals desert tan model. The Triumph just looks like another motorcycle to most unless you're familiar with the brand or rode one back in the day like I did. The 350 is what it is, a fun low powered bike for running around town.
Agreed, the pipes are an issue on the Interceptor, you can get lowered pipes, but it's an extra expense. I'm looking forward to the reviews on the Super fitted with windscreen. I noticed the Super screen has an air balance port in it, hopefully that will help with the buffeting that most cruiser windshields are prone to. From 2003 to 2020 I rode Victory cruiser bikes, every windscreen caused my head to shake like I had some sort of palsy. 🙄 As a result I was left trying to hold on and hold myself up without assistance, which can wear you out quickly. The Interceptor allows you to use your legs for more support and give your back and backside an easier time in the saddle. For me, the Super would not be a touring bike in naked form.
Windshields almost always cause buffeting unless you also put lowers on the bike.
My thought on the rear suspension issue on the Meteor is that RE may have set it up for hard bags. Not having them on your review bike seems a bit odd because whilst plains cruisers exist most seem to end up as baggers, unless Sunday trips to the coffee shop is your scene.
Great to see the comparison,but get rid of the bulky silencers on the interceptor for some way nicer pipes and there are many options.More suited for solo riders granted,but surely easier on the eye than a harley bagger clone.
I fully agree with you on the upswept pipes on the Interceptor - i use panniers and this unnecessary design feature means I wouldn't buy one for touring. Sorry RE.
I like both but would go for the meteor.
Too much for me atm but maybe in a few years when they start to appear on the used market.
If you had only one bike, which RE would your be Stuart? Great video as always, thanks for sharing
This is the reason why you should own more than one bike, you really need one for touring one for showing, preferably a classic another for bad weather and work and a work progress, I’m thinking a minimum of 4 bikes 😂
For long distances touring I think the Super Meteor's bigger fuel tank is and advantage to consider.
I can’t argue with this review, but I do love my Interceptor and won’t be changing it soon! I will be going to Scotland for 3 weeks in June and will be packing my usual 2 sets of underpants and socks in my bumbag! 😉
Listening about luggage comparison The mule came into my mind, how is The mule doing, any videos coming up ? Cheers for the video!
She is the apple of my eye!
i only wish that the Super Metior's seat was 2" lower as i have short legs and a bad knee i need to get my feet flat on the floor
I would imagine its the 2s up situation that would make me prefer a GS over the smaller 650 . I once observed an elderly couple who'd travelled up from Hull up to Lordstones cafe on a Triumph 650 ... high in the cleveland Hills some 80 plus me away. His wife hung on the back clinging on .. I just thought that looks so wrong 😢😢
Morning Uncle Stu, seeing as you also own a few Triumphs which motorcycle in your garage is the best tourer? As always I’ll be watching your next video so until next time ride safe 😉👍🏻
Have any one heard of the 1951 thunder bird and Blue bird motor bike. Dad say's the were very heavy bikes.
By geez Stu, do I detect a trade in coming up
One question sir, who makes the tail bag I see on the interceptor?
I own one and will be adding the Trip Machine saddle bag. But think that tail bag you use would come in handy over my cargo netting...
The SM has a Touring Seat Option yes?
Very apprehensive about long distance comfort pressure on low back plus that rock hard rear suspension
It is supposed to loosen up after use it seems.
@@aruncv1373 okay ...after how many kms I mean that sudden jolt from rear may cause low back injury
My wife had a bike with forward pegs and controls, and what I disliked about them is when you are going to go over a rough bump, like a bad railroad crossing, you can't stand on the pegs and let the bike rock under you.
One thing left out- flat tire repair will be much easier on the S.M.
Being the super meteor is the heavier of the two bikes is there a difference in fuel consumption ?
Just my opinion....
The SM650 might be a solution looking for a problem. My attraction to the brand is not "me too" bikes but something unique.
My INT 650 gets questions and intrigue everywhere I go. No one will notice the SM650. Now...I have zero need to stand out. BUT, I think it does say a lot about the GT, INT and the classic 350.
It's clear that RE is trying to move into the "everything else" market. That's fine. In the US the brand has nowhere to go but up.
However, the bike is just to small for most in the states.
Does the Super Meteor feel slower due to the extra weight?
Depends on what kind of roads you prefer touring on , i prefer touring on country roads and mountain roads , curvy hilly perfect for the lighter interceptor as most country roads here have sharp bends and corners , tank bag , saddle bags back seat bag and on the rear rack a kayaking bag for the lighter clothes and such , keep my heavy stuf balanced between the wheels to not change the bikes natural handling charactiristics . For the bum comfort my sheep skin seat cover .
The meteor should provide easier use of panniers and the upright seating position is easier to tolerate than the Internet 650 crouch
As ever an even handed review. I think the beauty of the interceptor is it's all round capability. It seems an insult to call it the ultimate generic motorcycle, instead perhaps the most versatile of modern bikes. Once again the SM tugs at my heart strings, but I'm still drifting towards the interceptor as my next ride. My current 350 meteor is a beautiful little runabout. It has a real bike feel. The SM would probably narrow the field too much for me, and an interceptor with a red and chrome tank, spoked wheels would certainly assuage my craving to be back on a proper British bike, made in India.
I think the bike your looking for would be a 1972 Norton Commando Interstate.
I know, I’m throwing some oranges and bananas into an apples to apples comparison, but for the difference in price, you could upgrade the suspension and seat on the interceptor, and be able to raise up and adjust your position from time to time.
It’s a Honda 400 super dream in 🥸
Tubeless tyres. Today's wordle clue...
It's easier to be self supportive on tour with a tubeless set up.
Touring is about the ride, not what you are riding on.
I own a Triumph Bonneville and an America, which are direct style and geometry comparisons to the Interceptor and Super Meteor.
I have toured on both, and can confirm that the America is far superior at it. Whilst I get roughly the same amount of luggage on either (perhaps slightly more on the Bonneville), the America is like riding an armchair down the road, and wins hands down on long distance comfort.
So I reckon your conclusions on the Enfield’s are probably correct Stu.
In my opinion there is no contest . The Super Meteor seems to be aimed at a USA market . It has a Harley look . For me on looks alone it has to be the Interceptor . I would not be able to live with the Super Meteor . I just don’t like the styling !
I can’t stand the styling of the Super Meteor. It reminds me of the discontinued Triumph America. I absolutely love the look of the Interceptor. Of course that’s my own subjective opinion and both are great motorcycles functionally.
Both motorcycles have their strong and weak points. Unfortunately the Interceptor has a fatal flaw. Tube type tires. Otherwise, it would be a wonderful bike for the type of riding it was designed for. But for touring, the Meteor wins hands down. I have around a million miles on motorcycles, most of it long distance touring, and almost all of that on cruiser style motorcycles. Several of them have had shaft drive. I didn't pick cruisers so much for their looks, but because their riding position is much more comfortable than any other type of bike. They almost always have very comfortable seats, and the seat-bar-footpeg placement puts you in a very comfortable riding position. You are not folded up, hunched over the bars with a lot of your upper body weight on your arms and shoulders, and your neck bent back so you can see ahead. Your knees are not bent all the way back to reach the pegs. There are no pressure points. Most of your weight is supported by the seat. I have ridden many 12-14 hour days on cruisers, and didn't hurt all over. One 20 mile ride on a crotch rocket put me in pain for days.
Fortunately, our prayers have been answered 👍. Both the Interceptor and the Continental GT are available in "Black" versions this year. As well as alloy rims (tubeless) they also get a few upgraded items from the Super Meteor. The black finish on the engine cases will also make them a bit more durable for all-year riding 👍
I’m not arguing with that at all. I also do a lot of long-distance riding but I don’t think my spine would be happy if I couldn’t weight the Peg‘s when going over rough roads.
I rather like the Interceptor. I certainly don't like the Super Meteor.
Tour on any bike you like. Just "bag" a lot of bungee cords.. Be bold, be adventurous. Comforts be damned.
Help me Mr. F...son gave me a 2006 500 bullet. Says if I can't start it, I have to get knee surgery. Please save me or the yank hospital will kill me.😢 p.s. have Harley 1200 and no prob w gentlemen sausage😂
Almighty God KABIR
Oh! Naughty Naughty! Accusing insecure men feeling compelled to buy a motorcycle with a larger than necessary engine in order to compensate for a small male appendage. Lol!!! 😂
When you're in your seventies a large appendage is just as useless as a small one, so I'm downsizing my Indian to a Super Meteor