Cub Cadet Zero Turn Weak Transmission Fix.
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- Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2017
- How to rebuild a Hydro-Gear EZT-2200 trans axle out of a Cub Cadet RZT. I hope this helps. Please comment with any questions.
Oil- $17
Center Section P/N 71529- $126.52
Seal kit P/N 70853- $39.99
Gasket maker- $4.19
Total- $187.70
I miss spoke on one of the torques.
Cover bolts 105-155 lb-in
Center Section 450-550 lb-in
You can message Hydro Gear to get the parts break for your unit at the following link.
www.hydro-gear.com/contact-us/
The manual can be download at the following link under the downloads tab.
www.hydro-gear.com/zt2200-ezt/
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Quick Tip! If you are having issue removing the the input shaft and the bearing, you may have loosened the 3 center section bolts too soon. If so, tighten them down and it should be easy to remove. A few people commented with this issue and tightening down the center section solved the problem. Sorry for not showing that in the video properly. Hope this helps anyone having this issue.
Sorry, saw this after my comment. I'll give it a try, but am still wondering about that ring on the shaft.
Thanks for this comment! I was struggling with this very thing, but also taking out the little retaining pin on the input shaft, but is that even necessary? When it wouldn't come out because I had already loosened the three bolts, I assumed it was this clip and the service manual says to remove the clip. My only suggestion to make this video perfect would be to show the removal of both shafts. They were tricky. Thanks for making the video, though, lifesaver!
@@lorenjohnbailey6445 glad it helped. If i do another one i plan on doing an update for the stuff i missed. Who knows when that will happen lol
its called a banjo fitting not lollipop
I came here looking for that tip. As soon as I tightened the center assembly back down, that shaft popped free. Thanks!
This was a very straight forward repair video. No fluff, just the necessary info to get it done. I just subbed. It turns out that parts and service are available for these Transaxles if you do it yourself. I just want to change the fluid in mine, but I found this video and thought I'd watch it just in case I need to actually rebuild mine in the future.
Hey, just FYI: when I installed the center section, I had a hard time keeping everything in place and from falling out. So, I laid the housing on its side (top) and had no trouble installing the center section on the first try! Hope this helps others.
I expect this mower will last several seasons with decent care. ruclips.net/user/postUgkx1VWTrayKBdCKAjzAcZ_Eg4dhHTae3LkN also recommend Also, I ran across the problem with it not starting the 2nd time I used it. There is a safety switch which is pushed in by the chute or mulching piece being attached to the deck. I took the cover off and it wouldn't start. Put it back on, no problem. It takes only a minute with 2 easily accessible wingnuts and no tools. This mower starts up first crank each time and it is a joy to use. It also mows in reverse by putting the key to the reverse area after starting and pushing in the triangular button. It will stay in reverse mode until you turn it off. All in all, for my homeowner needs, I really like this mower-and at 70 bucks a cut here in Miami, it's already more than 1/3 paid for itself in a month.
Not a bad video which is a complement coming from me. I wish more people would take the time to prep. and edit before they post their garbage. 90% of what I watch is a waste of time. You're in the other 10%. Concise, to the point, not too wordy and you don't repeat yourself a dozen times. I will watch another video of yours.
Howard Motal Wow! Thanks for the positive feedback. I feel the same way watching people's how to videos. It takes time to edit the garbage out but it's what makes a good video. Ill be posting more videos soon. Thanks again!
Great video! The audio and lighting was superb , better than most lawncare and do-it-yourself repair videos. Thank you!
Thanks you!
Finally! A no-nonsense video of what causes the problem and how to fix it. Reading the repair manual alone is a bit cloudy, but your tutorial made it perfectly clear. Can't thank you enough for the clear audio/video quality that was provided. Heckuva job!
Thank you for watching!
What an excellent video and exceedingly informative comment section! Thank you Tractor guy and thank you commenters. You all pulled together better than the rest of the entire internet combined!!!!!
Excellent how-to video. It is a good argument for going with a ZTR with at least with HydroGear 2800 residential transmissions which have an oil filter which should provide better longevity though I have seen several videos on repairing them also. That being said, I've been looking at ZTR mowers and called HydroGear for a transaxle recommendation thinking a ZT-2800 would be adequate for my needs. They indicate their residential transmissions, including the ZT-2800, are really only intended for 1 acre or so. I have 3.5 acres with a slope so they recommended I get a mower with one of their commercial grade transaxles which start with the ZT-3100. The ZT-3100 is basically the same as a ZT-2800 but has contains cut steel gears (as opposed to powered metal in the residential models) along with having a shock valve to relieve stress under quick starts and a charge pump to provide supplemental oil to the main pump. I think the big box stores and some dealers inaccurately recommend models with the ZT-2800s for larger lots when they probably shouldn't. Anyway, HydroGear has an excellent RUclips video detailing the differences between a ZT-2800 and ZT-3100 but even it lacks in providing a lot size/slope guide on which transaxle would be best for a given lot. Again, excellent video and hope this info helps other viewers of your video.
Thanks for adding some info. Definitely worth getting the best mower you can afford.
I had the same discussion with Hydro-gear as well. My Husqvarna MZ254F has the ZT-2200 unit and my lot is approx 3 acres with slopes. They also said it's under rated for this. Though if you ask Husqvarna they have no problem recommended their product. All their literature states how strong and capable their mower is. Their manual does not state an acreage limit either. Personally I think these units were engineered to fail by about 80-90 hours..that's what I'm seeing on the forum pages and always the left side...
This video with the repair manual helped alot. Thanks for taking the time to make it.
I bought an rzt 50 used and had to rebuild both sides. This video saved me alot of money.
Chris Lobb glad it helped!
Great details in the video! I have a rzt42 with the same problem. Every shop I had called said those transmissions were "non serviceable" and that I would basically have to replace both transmissions. Hopefully this winter I can tear mine down and rebuild it!
It seems most shops don't want to work on them. The weird part is hydro gear has a repair manual. Good luck with yours I hope the video helped.
Enjoyed the video. I talked with Ken at Hydro Gear and downloaded the manual but couldnt order parts through them. Dealer recommended for that. Ken very helpful guy .
hydro gear seems to have great customer service. I ordered parts of ebay. Im sure amazon has them too.
Thank you so much! I bought a Cub Cadet RZT 50 for $250 and the right side would get weaker and weaker as I drove it. After the tear down I seen it was the center section, so I ordered a new one along with a seal kit. Your video helped so much during the rebuild, you went into so much more detail than any other video Ive seen. Im not shure if I could have completed the rebuild on my own in a day without it! Once again thank you so much!
Your welcome! Glad I can help out. $250 is a great deal on a zero turn. Thanks for watching.
How much was the center section
That's what I was wondering as well, how much it cost
Yup. Prices would have been soooo great
Great video. Thanks for the detail descriptions of the dis and reassembly. I need to change the oil in my transaxles on my Gravely ZT. I'm going to give it a shot by just changing the oil before I go complete disassembly. I will definitely be adding this video to my library. Take care Darbley.
Great video, I used it to rebuild my RTZ50 zeroturn. Im no macanic. But I got it done with zero problems. Right to the point video with no BS.
Awesome! glad it helped you out. Thanks for watching!
Just got done replacing both left and right side center sections on my Husqvarna RZ5426. My finger was too big to hold the bypass valve in place when installing the center section so I just used a zip tie to keep it in place. Worked like a charm.
Just finished mine and referred to your video multiple times. Thank you!!!
Awesome glad it helped!
Excellent presentation. Clear, informative, detailed notes, mostly best practices, etc. Thank you for doing this.
No problem! Glad to help out.
Very well made step by step rebuild. I’m about purchase a zero turn with this transmission. You got a subscribe from Bone Stock.
Thank you for the sub!
One of the best Video's I've seen on these transmissions so far... Thanks...
Thank you!
Great job! Thanks for spending the time to put this video together. It was a great help!
Your welcome and thanks for watching!
You have done a superb job an explanation. You eliminated any questions
Glad it helped out!
I have had my 60" z force for 15 years and I changed the trans fluid every year no problems .I put three spring on it .great mower
Great video! I don't need to do this, but I found it very interesting and good to know if needed in the future.
Thanks for watching!
Awesome videos
Thankyou for taking the time to make this great DIY vid. 🤘🤘🤘💪💪
No problem thanks for watching!
Great video, I have a 2006 Z Force 60 that won’t move forward on the left drive, I will be servicing it this week and if that does not fix the problem I will be utilizing your video to rebuild it on Thursday. Thank you!
sweet. good luck with it.
Great video! About to my left side! P.o.s! Struggled all last summer trying to mow with 1 transmission working all the time. Other one worked until it warmed up and would get weak! Thanks again for a great video!
Thanks! I'm glad it helps. Definitely a pain when they start to go out.
Thanks for the video. It helped a lot and you did a very professional job.
Thank you glad it helped
This video made it so easy to repair my RZT50, I rebuilt both of my transaxles while siting on the toilet.
Haha thanks for watching. glad it helped
Now that’s how you get shit done!
Thanks for getting back to me so I found all the parts is that all I need to get power restored
John L yeah should be it. Oil, gasket maker, seal kit, and center section. You should be good to go.
Very best video so far.
Thanks for the video I need to change the brake shaft seal on mine this video helped to know how to prepare
Jeff Whitehead glad it helped thanks for watching!
Thanks for the great how to video. Should save me some money.
your welcome I hope it helps. thanks for watching!
Awesome, well edited and very informative video !! I hope this isn't the issue I have, but if it is I know how to fix it. Thanks !
Thank you!
When removing grooves, toss that piece of wood and get a thick piece of glass. The glass will be much flatter than a possibly warped piece of plywood. Talking from years of experience.
Joseph Martin I agree.
I've also seen people wrap the sand paper around a large wet stone as a flat surface.
I used the glass cooktop on my kitchen stove. Probably not ideal, but perfectly flat and worked like a charm.
Yep glass shop have a14/16 sheet of safety glass and round edges for 22.50
Wow, what a great video. My right side hydro gear just barfed. From the countless search returns of "non-repairable" (buy a new unit) to this is great. The new units are worth as much as a used mower! Thanks for an extremely helpful video. I know where to go to get the parts I need and how to go about fixing an "unrepairable" unit. You made my day! Subscribed. :-)
Thank you very much! Glad it helped. I just got done rebuilding another one this week.
Awesome video, great job. Thanks!
Thank you for watching!
When putting in the center section take everything off the input shaft use it to hold center section in place but to put in center section put motor shaft and the little bread then put piston on top to hold the little bread it a whole lot easier
I followed video last summer worked great till now I dint change the motor or piston with springs so this time I would like to would you have the part no for those thanks
great video about time to rebuild mine had my 50 inch rzt since 2010 left side getting weak and slow
Where you get the part i i can find the parts mine is 08 troy bilt 50 inches. I need the hydro pump lip seal i hope you can help me thanks
I have a 2016 RZT which they state the transmissions don't require service which I am doubtful of but are my transmissions like this one you are working on! I could look it up but thought you might know off the top of your head! Wish you lived close to me as I would hire you to do my work when the time comes! Great video!
More then likely it has the 2200 transaxles. Especially if it says they are non serviceable. They should add a drain plug so you could at least change the fluid. Im in northeastern pa. Thanks for watching.
Excellent video! Got a new subscriber here
Sweet tap dancing christ thank god for youtube and thank god for you sir. Worked on many mowers but this is my first zero turn. These hydro motors are uncharted territory for me and you sir just made my muhfuken day!
Haha glad it helped you out!
Great informative video. I would add that the review black should "cure" long enough to create a gasket and not be gooey. I've seen way too many cases of installing before and then cussing because they leak. Anyway, great job
Excellent video. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Really nice work, thank you!!
Thank you!
really good informative video thanx
riley hill thanks for watching!
Wow! Thank you for posting this video. It takes the mystery out of tearing down one of these transaxles. Do you think that there is the possibility of drilling in a drain plug, threading it in, in and perhaps changing your own oil in the transaxle from time to time? It looks like to me that the pump housing had lubrication inadequacies and being able to change out contaminated oil would help.
Im sure you could add a drain plug. I haven't had one apart in awhile so i can't remember how much room there is for a drain plug. Test it out and let us know!
Great video
perfect job
So when it comes to getting the pulley off. If you don't have an impact wrench, look underneath the fan at the shaft. It has two flat sides so it can be grabbed with a wrench. I put a crescent wrench on it and set the wrench against the floor and broke that nut loose with a 1/2 inch drive ratchet. No problem at all on both of the transmissions in my mower. I just figured I'd let you know. It makes life a lot easier for people without air tools.
Thanks for the tip! I didnt notice that myself.
I had a home depot cub cadet. Very deep in the manual it stated that the life expectancy Was 185 hours. I sold it soon after. Box stores dumb down the standard product to make more money. Never buy major equipment from a big box store.
it's wonderful video, and good instruction, the Piston pump was amazing, do you know which one is the leading company for this Piston pump?
Well done...
Awesome job. Thank you
no problem. thanks for watching
Good job sir.
Thank you!
Sound like the issue I'm having. The mower doesn't want to turn hard left sometimes but it kinda feels like a traction problem. Next time I mow I'll have to watch the tire. If I really work the sticks it'll start going and it's almost like I have to get the right side moving to help the left side
Thank you Darbley.
your welcome!
Great video!
Thank you!
Nice video
Have not had any luck with mine I tried this and it worked great for about 45 minutes then it started losing power again back to where I started I went ahead and ordered the whole transaxel
Awesome vid!
Thank you!
I'm going to do mine shortly so THANKS for the video!!!! Also these hyro's seem to be on so many different Brands that it "might" be a great way to start a biz offering to rebuild these. If proficient at it how much time would you say it takes to rebuild? THANKS!!!!! Most people would not attempt doing a rebuild.
Great video,,very helpfull
Leonard Ward thank you! Glad it was helpful
Job well done
Sveno Mick thank you!
Nice job
Thank you!
Excellent video. Well done. Any chance you could do a scag hydro next.? That would be great
blake the snake if i get chance to do one i will definitly do a video. Thanks for watching
Hello and thank you for the video.
I would like to suggest that if you're going to be this far into this unit you should also go ahead and pull that hub off so that you can replace the output shaft seal.
If it's not leaking yet, it will be soon, so it is worth replacing.
Another suggestion is do not ever tap on the back of your socket with a hammer. It's a bad habbit habit that will eventually damage your sockets.
It is better to use an old extension. I have a dedicated 4in extension that is used only for this purpose. The side that receives the blows from the hammer is mushroomed and mis-shaped, which is what will happen to your sockets.
Use granite tile for a sanding block, its diamond ground smooth. or take it to a machine shop if it has gouges from metal, or get a new part.
thanks for the input.
Well done.
Thanks you!
What an great video!!! Excellent job! One question I have the same transaxle and mine has a lot of play on the shaft that connects to the tire you didn’t go into that what is inside that shaft and how can I get it back to having no play? Thank you
Cedric id guess theres a bushing or bearing that could possibly be replaced. Take a look at the parts break down and see whats there. Im pretty sure the seal kit comes with a seal for the axle.
Cedric i took a quick look. The part number is 51517. They call it a bushing.
Thanks for you help brother
No problem! Glad it helped
I suggest a thick piece of glass or a very flat piece of granite counter top matl for lapping.
Hi Tractor Guy, thanks for the video.....nice job , clear and well explained........looks to be easy......just two questions, if we consider the time and effort, would it not be safer to replace the 2 bearings? also Hydro gear tech say I have to replace both blocks (pump and motor) I know these parts are pretty expensive, but is there no risk these are worn and no anymore usable? ......last thing : seal kit : for what? where did you use it?....... my case ZT2200 (EZT) less than 100 hours, oil inside rotten (milky/silver gray) after 20mn/30mn use becomes noisy and weak and after a while won't work on right side.......many thanks
Forgot to mention that after I drive for a few minutes and get under and move hose around it leaks and I hear a hissing sound so I'm wondering if it's also losing pressure there as well witch is causing lack of power it wants to move but very slowly on that side
thanks for making video
your welcome
Thank you look like a common problem.
Excellent presentation..!!!
I’m having trouble getting my center section out.. you skipped past that part. Everything is disconnected but it seems like it’s jammed in there.. worried if I just try to pry it out that cheap metal will break and parts will go flying everywhere..
there is a pinned comment that might address the issue your having. if your input shaft is still in it you might have still loosened the center section bolts to soon. Here is a better explanation
" If you are having issue removing the the input shaft and the bearing, you may have loosened the 3 center section bolts too soon. If so, tighten them down and it should be easy to remove. A few people commented with this issue and tightening down the center section solved the problem. Sorry for not showing that in the video properly. Hope this helps anyone having this issue."
@@darbleythetractorguy458 thank you so much for the quick reply..
It just started bypassing again..
Awesome..!!!
Grease the bypass puck to make it stay. Take the motor output gear off its shaft, assemble the motor on the shaft and slide it into place. Hold it. Then slide the center section over that. As for the trunnion/swashplate, you just need strong hands and care.
Thanks for your input! Greasing the bypass makes it much easier.
thank you it helped me a lot
Blas Tello. Awesome! Glad it helped. Thanks for watching.
Video is perfect I got it all back to gather in your opinion what causing middle section to do that mine look examine yours also might be dumb question put I'm assuming the fill hole is screwed shut during purge process
John L from what I understand when you go from forward to reverse to quickly before you slow down, it builds a lot of pressure that lifts the motor and slams in onto the center section. More expensive units have a pressure release so this doesnt happen.
John L the fill hole is closed when purging you will have to remove it to check the oil level after tho.
I know yard tools use the crappiest oil they can buy for manufacture. Could these transmission problems be avoided by using synthetic oil? My JD LX176 1994 still runs great after 30 years of mowing and snow removal.
I don't usually comment but we'll done video had to give you 30.sec of my time to like
Appreciate it! Thanks
Great video. Glad I found it. I have a Hydro Gear 312-2400L with axle issues, any suggestions?
I would open it up and see if anything is worn. Might get away with an oil change. I found a manual for a 310 2400 on hydro gears website. Might be the same as yours. If you contact hydrogear and they will give you a parts breakdown.
@@darbleythetractorguy458 Thanks for the info.
Seems like a common problem on the cub cadet nada troy built mustang. Is there an upgrade trans a person could buy instead of the same failing units going in.
Great Video ! I have the same unit in my Ariens Ikon 52 . I dropped them at 75 hours and filled with Valvoline full synthetic 20w50 , and again at 150 hours . Is that over kill or am i thinking right as far as longer life of units ?
Thank you! Id say 75-100 hrs is a good interval. One of the big things is how you drive them. Slowing down and coming to a near stop before turning/putting one of the wheels in reverse. Alot of ppl will be cruising and slamming them in reverse for quick turns and it slams the internals causing the damage in the video.
@@darbleythetractorguy458 Thanks
FYI.....the small bypass puck can be retained in place by the use of a small dab of grease.....means you dont need to keep your fingers in an awkward place......been working on these for over 20 years
awesome! Great tip. That will definitely help out.
Grease is a great tip. I used a zip tie.
I have a broken cradle bearing and the manual is saying its only available with a new case, but I found the cradle bearings sold separately. Have you ever replaced those? Not sure if they just rest there in the case or if they are adhered in some kind of way.
Losing power from right hydro, why do grooves hurt the center piece? I checked my check valves, they are tight, I do have metal shaving in the filter.
Thanks
Would it be possible to sand down that Center section back to smooth (ie. Similar to turning a brake rotor and assuming the grooves aren't too deep)? It's probably better just to get the new part since you've gotten that far in the tear-down, but if it could save $ for some people I figured it be good to know.
If money is tight im sure its worth a try. It would probably be harder to get it flat.
Great video! For the EZT trans...Why hasn't someone installed 1/8" NPT drain plugs in the bottom of the trans case (pump end) to drain the oil for servicing. Also find or make a hose to screw into the trans fill hole and drill a hole above the trans thru the engine mount plate for fill access. Drain the oil out the newly installed trans case bottom drain and refill with a know amount of fresh oil for servicing. ?????
both of those are great ideas. Most commercial zero turns have that ability.
Because they’re built to maximize profits. 99% will buy them at a big box store, run them until something goes wrong and then buy a new one. If you’re watching this, you’re one of the few people like me who actually take pride in fixing things.
@@failranch9542 its sad not many people try to fix things anymore. More sad companies don't make things to last.
Excellent presentation..!!!
I’m having trouble getting my center section out.. you skipped passed that pert. Everything is disconnected but it seems like it’s jammed in there.. worried if I just try to pry it out that cheap metal will break and parts will go flying everywhere..
Thanks for the great video, what oil did you use ?
I used castrol gtx synthetic. Recommended weight is 20w-50. Use what ever brand you trust.
@@darbleythetractorguy458 Thanks for the info !
not mentioned is a spring and washer on main drive pump shaft..
Actually I pressure wash the hell out of the those after I pull them apart. Just wash the casings though not the pump or motor or center section.
Hey friend, the same thing happened to my machine and I am the same as yo
urs where you live, it is possible that you can fix it
Good idea just getting the center section those complete kits are pricey.
I have a problem with a raptor Hustler a 52 in 2015 about 20 minutes it don't want to haul it pulled no more and it's been leaking oil so I might need a little help from you thank you Cajun land Church Point Louisiana
Looks like it more then likely has the same trans axle as the one in the video. If its leaking it might be low on fluid. I would pull it off the tractor and see what's going on.
Maybe a good way to prime the unit would be to drive it with an electric drill while the unit is still out of the mower. That way after priming is done, you can easily check the oil level and fill as needed without having to remove the unit from the mower again.
It's definitely a good idea. I don't see why it wouldn't work.
How do you get the center piece out after you remove the bolts?
So mine is of course is the left hydro and as I mow the unit gets hot and is not very responsive. But cold at first it turns fine. What if you just changed the oil from a multi V to a straight 30 or 40 weight or even a 50 weight? Isn't the problem the oil thins as it gets hot? Yes I'm lazy and afraid I'll screw it up!!!😉
I was given a Gravely 2448 XL. The mower wont move on the right side. It looks like fluid is leaking from the bottom of the Transaxle. Doe this sound like a replace or repair? Any tips on how to troubleshoot the issue? Thanks for any assistance.
If its leaking fluid there is a good possibility that it is low on fluid. It looks like that mower has a zt2800 trans axle by hydro gear. It should be really similar to the trans axle in the video. I would pull it out of the mower and see where its leaking from. Change out the oil with new oil and see if that helps. If it helps then change the seal that is bad if you can find it. If that doesn't work I would open it up and see whats wrong. It seems the only thing that really goes wrong with these is the motor as I show in the video or low on oil. The only way it can get low on oil is if its leaking. Thanks for watching!