2022 Toyota Venza | Long Term Impressions PT1
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- Опубликовано: 19 июл 2024
- We discuss our long term impressions of the new Toyota Venza. After using and abusing the car we discuss our initial impressions operating the vehicle. In future episodes we will discuss price and cost to use. Others to consider are the Mazda CX5, Ford Edge, Chevy Blazer, Honda Passport, Kia Sportage, and more.
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00:00 Intro
1:14 Driving Impressions 
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A lot of people complaining about the "poor" hybrid gas mileage in the winter. I would happily take 30 mpg for 3-4 months and 40 mpg the other 8-9. Yeesh.
Also that 30 plus mpg is still better than most non hybrid mpg anyways 😂
Just consider, some of those folks may live where is freezing mornings can occur 5 months of the year
We bought a '21 Venza XLE back in October, and my wife has just over 4k miles on it now. It's perfect for her. It replaced a 2011 Acura RDX, and she's pleased with the gas mileage of the Venza, and that she only has to fill it up every couple of weeks. As Jack said, for an everyday cruiser, it's perfect. The XLE has everything we wanted (heated steering wheel was important to my wife, but is no longer available on the '22 XLE), and we avoided the capacitive touch controls. We both prefer physical knobs/buttons, and Toyota did a nice job with the Venza.
SG, I've commented on it before and I know really it's a small thing but man oh man do I love the fact that you make a point to mention the source of the material and labor for your shirts. Grey products are so normalized nowadays and I can't stress enough how important it is to give back to American labor when you can. I really hope more small business stands up and starts producing things ethically and consciously once again, it starts with T-Shirts and hopefully we'll get back electronic manufacturing sometime in the coming future.
Thanks fellas for being consistent with quality and exciting content, even with cars that are viewed by its’ owners as appliances.
I’m tryna trade my tundra trd pro for one of these. Venza just makes sense. It’s so efficient
The appliances are the ones that many normal people will need and buy, honestly really appreciate the appliance videos
This deserves a lot of credit for achieving what it sets out to do very well. Very much a modern interpretation of the classic Toyota philosophy - restrained and conservative aesthetics, spacious and usable interior (ok, maybe some of that could be improved), tried and true hybrid powertrain with adequate power, and driving dynamics that are the utmost in comfort with no sporting pretensions. Might not be what most viewers of this channel are looking for, but will satisfy many ordinary buyers, for sure.
I don’t know about tried and true powertrain.
This version is very very very complex
And fairlnew
Congratulations on getting a long-term press car, you guys earned this.
I bought the XLE version for my mom now that all the kids are out of the house and it's a perfect size for her. After 9 month of driving it, she still calls me up thanking me for selecting the right cuv for her. She couldn't be happier with this choice and does over 40 mpg consistently
I also was surprised how much I like my Venza. Great gas mileage (42 in the summer) and it handles great. The seats are fantastic. I drove 13 hrs in one day without discomfort. Looks good and I can find it in a parking lot full of Rav4's.
Yes, the Venza has the best drivers seat of any Toyota. I like the back seats too. But the front passenger seat needs lumbar and seat height adjustment. It’s not as good as the drivers seat.
@@MrKillerRC Agree, lucky for me I'm the driver
@@MrKillerRC agreed. The passenger seat needs to be able to lower just like the driver seat does.
@@powerguymark unacceptable for a car costing that much
The seats were the main selling point for me. It is so comfortable!
I have a 2021 Venza and it is the best vehicle that I have ever owned. MPG is averaging 42.
Same here
That's how I feel. I'm looking to buy another one. I do wish sport mode would give you about an extra 30 more horsepower, but hey this isn't meant to be a race car it's a daily driver.
I have a 2022 loaded Venza Limited. Its Goldilocks, not too big or small. The hybrid drivetrain actually fits this car.
On my previous Lexus ES300H it’s too weak.
The new Venza has most of the bells and whistles of a Lexus, but bigger and cheaper than a NX. I really like it.
I am a 2021 XLE owner, and I've grown to appreciate it more over time. I put on Michelin CC2s which significantly improved road noise and comfort, I highly recommend this upgrade especially if you live in an area with very coarse and loud pavement. I also got a good PPF on the front and wireless carplay adapter. With good power, a nice interior, and elegant design, I really enjoy this car.
@@panzer_TZ thanks for the tire tip. Mine are still in good shape and I really don't notice a lot of road noise but it's worth noting when I do need to replace them of what I might look to replace them with.
Thanks for sharing
@@panzer_TZ yea the tires toyota put on these venzas are the one thing i dislike. noisiest tires ive ever had honestly
I have always wanted a Lexus SUV. But this seems just as luxurious and so much cheaper. I think this will easily be my next car in the future.
You guys have quickly become my favorite car review channel. You guys are down to earth and have a much different approach to the car RUclips scene that seemed to have gone away but I'm glad it didn't. I appreciate you being honest and transparent in your reviews even when it's a car given by the company. Great content as always keep it up!
The Toyota Hybrid system is one of the best things I've ever experienced in auto engineering period. Admittedly, the slower ones aren't that fun to drive, but as a workaround I bought myself a Lexus GS450h; best of both worlds. In addition to my own car, I've had a chance to drive almost all of them, the Yaris hybrid, The Prius and Prius +, the Corolla (1.8), the Rav4. All of them are very smooth and relaxing to drive and get great mileage, on top of being extremely reliable. I have never missed having 'real' gears, by this point I have become fully convinced that this system is just better than having traditional gears, and cruising on the highway at 1100rpm is just the cherry on top. Even the 2022 S-Class hybrid can't get the gas mileage of my 2015 car, and that car has a smaller engine too.
The best thing about the CVT is that it’s perfectly under-stressed at highway cruising. I love it honestly, and floor my Sienna and Prius all the time without bracing for a rough downshift-and I know Toyota builds it to last.
I couldn’t agree more. Even better is that the Toyota CVT system is a planetary gear system that is built to last, unlike the belt-driven systems that other manufacturers use (Nissan) and often fail. That’s why you see so many Prius with over 300,000 miles on the original transmissions. Toyota quality standards are second to none.
@@grisa12345 Yep, sometimes I can barely help laughing maniacally when I'm sitting at 1200rpm on the highway in ultimate relaxation mode. I remember that my cars from the 90s (all 5 speed manuals) were always sitting at 3000rpm @100km/h, which was very uncomfortable.
smaller engine needs to try harder to put out the same power as a bigger engine. there's a sweet spot in every engine of power output to fuel input that a small engine just cant manage with most cars, which is why a weak engine almost always ends up worse on fuel. a corvette is almost idle on the highway, which is why they get strangely good mpg when they're not in the city
How was your experience with the Rav 4 Hybrid? Considering that over the Venza.
No joke! I just got an XLE Venza last week. Love it so far!
This was the best practical discussion of hybrid/ cold weather I've heard.Appeciate you guys!
When a manufacturer gives you a car and someone has to do a review… jack does an awesome job keeping it positive
Like the format.Great points about real world range in a variety of seasons.Looking forward to the next installment!
Content is much appreciated! Liked the honesty and partnership between you and mark.
What a great team, thanks for all the work!
I LOVE that financing deal on the shirt, thank god the residuals are great on them.
Nice to see the support
Bought a limited loaded - stargazer- heads up etc. love the vehicle. Great on gas, comfortable. Was concerned about the lack of buttons. Non- issue. 20k mikes 10 months - less MPG in winter. But still decent. Great MPG in mild climes. Glad I bought it!!
I could not be happier with mine.
I think it's the most solid (center of the dart board) vehicle purchase I've ever made in my life.
Same here love my Venza, I also have the limited and I just hit 20k (hour+ commute to work each way). I plan on keeping my car for a long time unless they make a prime version with wireless apple CarPlay lol
@@powerguymark how so? Doesnt the wind and tire noise ware on you? Not to mention the loud ecvt when accelerating
@@Mrtellitlikeitis I had narrowed my choices down to a RAV4 hybrid.
Venza is quieter than a RAV4 hybrid. Venza is also quieter than the second generation Chevy Equinox I was driving.
You want quieter than a Venza? Buy a Lexus and spend about 15 grand more. I'll take my 40pg and a little more noise any day of the week.
Especially for the price.
Thank you for what you’re doing with the proceeds from the shirt Mr.Geese, I’ll be picking one up
I feel like a winner now, not only was there another great SG video but I also was able to order one of the shirts! Thank you Mark and Jack
Cheers to you for supporting such a worthwhile organization and an important cause!
I have a '10 Venza XLE V6 and its still going strong. That 30-40mpg is quite a bit better than my 22-24mpg.
always liked the look of the 'old' Venza, but didn't like the drive feel when I sought a used one
@@no1no1655 agreed. It's drives like a bus or maybe a couch on wheels. But I also have a Fiesta ST for track/back roads 👍
we love our '22 sienna for daily driving
even in the cold weather we still manage to get 29-32 mpg
which is considerably more than the peak 23-24 of our '20 with a v6
on a full tank, on peak conditions it gets 37 mpg highway and easily 500+ miles of range
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Man, I missed these discussion videos. Thanks for the insight!
I have the 1st gen Venza and I just like the car. I suggested it for my aunt and she just got hers a week ago, she’s enjoying it so far.
Thank you both, a wonderful cause
As always - perfect review! Btw waiting for a review of updated Mazda CX-5.
I want the LOOOOOOONG [30 minutes] IN DEPTH VIDEOS BACK to this channel!
Just bought two, Merica and helping ppl I'm sold. Keep up the good work 🤘🤘
super excited for the expanded video! I would love to see this type of long-term loan for the Ford Maverik too!
One of the few na toyotas that are still assembled in japan
Finally able to order a shirt! I can already feel my T-levels rising, and my concubine, Candi, has noticed too. Thanks SG!
we got our venza last year and we love it.
I like the Venza, and I usually like SUV's that are boxy. I appreciate it's sleek and normal styling. It's not shouty like so many other cars are, and it doesn't have that baskin shark grill that Lexus models have. Toyota did a great job in making a non-Lexus product be really nice, and I appreciate them not putting all sorts of shouty look at me details
Saw the new Avenza rolling down the road tonight and started telling my wife about your review and maybe giving it a test drive..look over to see who is driving it and there he was the man himself. Jack rolling around the streets of Schaumburg with the long termer.
Got two hybrid Rav4s because it's so damn good at regular commuting. Size is good, gas mileage is solid, the comfort and usability works so well for the price.
What’s your avg mileage?
Yes, it's solid. I prefer the less Tonka Toy styling of the Venza, but the RAV4 is a solid choice.
@@HeyJettRink Well I average 29-30mpg while averaging 82mph, but my wife gets like 36-38mpg and does like 70-75mph and less highway miles
The video is great, this abomination makes me want to hurl.
Also got my shirt on order. Great work getting your shirts American made. You're a real one, Goose.
I was about to check out for the new T-shirt wich I was excited to order, saw the 42$ shipping and went directly to bankruptcy. Living in the street with that wonderful T-shirt will still be a huge accomplishment for my now homeless self. Thanks a lot guys and I will now use the mental health project that I finance all by myself.
What you guys got a sensible car. Well done you. Waiting for a Sorento HEV myself.
Hybrids make the most sense at this point - you can go completely EV for short commutes and you don’t have to spend hours of your time on long trips recharging batteries. I would go with the Camry hybrid however.
Can't believe I'm saying this, but that was one of the best t-shirt promos I've ever seen 👍
Love the long term review
I'm looking to go BEV in a couple of years. Please consider reviewing the new Hyundai or Kia ev's.Thanks for the 6+ years of automotive education and fun.Great channel Mark and Jack! I drive what's been a great cruiser.2000 I30 now at 216,000.
This car with a plug in hybrid system would be perfect. I guess that’s what the RAV4 Prime is supposed to be.
Looking forward to the long term video!
hopefully you'll have some large 2.0 shirts soon. i'm glad you guys were given a chance to do a long-term review, hopefully you get some more. did you guys have any noteworthy gripes or something you really loved about the car, maybe with any particular feature?
2021 Sienna hybrid and 2021 Prius Prime owner here. Easiest cars ever to live with (and keeps miles off the G63!) Sienna gets about 30mpg in mixed driving but the Prius is averaging 67mpg over the first 7500 miles. It’s hard not to love Toyota hybrids. Efficient and reliable, and IMO pretty good looking. I have plenty of quibbles with Toyota tech, but the reliability and efficiency are generally worth the trade off.
Improvement on the frog-like appearance from the back of the car. Love you guys
You have one of the better t-shirts on the market. Really awesome!
T-shirts. You're a good man Mark.👍
Yeah, I really feel like the Venza is quite the compelling rational vehicle for these times. Good to better fuel milage, decent interiors, better than average looks exterior wise. I want one! Until the electrical infrastructure is filled out nationally, the hybrids will be the way to go in my region.
After having seat time for a month in a K5, I understand the appeal a little bit more of a comfortable, steady relax-a-car. Its nice! I akinned the experience of modern cars as an everyman luxury experience.
Ironically its for that same experience that I preferred my altima. Even when being slower, that car is fun to drive everyday, and chill enough to lean back on when need be. Maybe its cause I’m a freak of nature, but I feel the need more often to drive spiritedly than I do to chill
The need to drive spiritedly is just Altima owner energy
I’ll snag a large T on your next restock. You guys are awesome.
I thought the Venza is the spiritual successor to the Venza.
The first Venza was really a weird large wagon based on the Highlander, IIRC. This new Venza is actually what the RX 350 would've been if they didn't push the RX to make it bigger. (The first two generations of RX were rebadges of the overseas Toyota Harrier, which is what this new Venza is). Confusing, I know, I hope I explained it well enough.
@@panzer_TZ My parents owns a 2012 Venza, and we refer to it as a mini Lexus.
Love the content as always, and love how the shirts are made and what they support. Mental health is very important to me, it’s how I lost my sister. Pretty cool I get to start my day with my top channel supporting “real life things” keep it up guys, you’re appreciated. Now, can’t wait for the content we’ve all been waiting for… the Mirage review lol.
Wife bought a new Camry Hybrid in '07. A total appliance but we've had zero issues with the hybrid. We haven't paid too much attention to mileage in the winter but it does vary a little.
Introducing SG merch restock on Pt. 1 of a long-term review for a Venza was the only reason there were any Mediums left when I placed my order just now. Thanks for that fighting chance. ;)
Great idea with the T Shirts Mark.
Yea I liked what Toyoda said about hybrids being the future. In MI, this review is on point with what I’d have to deal with. Hybrid is the best of both worlds.
Electric is better because it's fully renewable
The Venza battery weighs in at 58 pounds compared to Tesla at over 1,000 pounds. How much energy and cost is used to manufacture the EV batteries? My take is a lot. Hybrids are the way to go.
@@bob.bishop idk man. I can charge my EV home with energy directly from the sun. In my case for about 160-200 days from the year I can drive for free.
@@dragospahontu where can I get a solar panel for free? I want one too.
@@10ProSoccer some countries offer incentives. Even though the investment is big, you will get your money back in 2-4 years depending on how much you drive. Especially now when the fuel prices have increased.
I’ve had two hybrid Toyota’s. The range drop in winter is similar to his experience. I have a late model leaf now and (I knew going in) its range in cold winter weather is 50-60% of stated range. Winter eviscerates EV range.
You guys are the best
It’s a good looking car to me. I would rock one of these as a daily, fur sure!
Really love this car. It might be an appliance, but damn it will not let you down.
Those hybrids from Toyota are great. Absolutely the best in the business
I have a perfect 2013 ford cmax 97000 miles. Ford and Toyota developed their Hybrid system together
That part about EVs and range anxiety is the reason why mass EV adoption will not happen until we solve charge speed and infrastructure. Until then, Toyota's hybrids were a 20+ year bet that is already paying off big, especially with gas prices where they are now, and will continue to be the dominant tech for cars in the near future.
I agree that hybrids are a good bet for many, and for commuter vehicles in moderate climates, plug-in hybrids make sense. However, we're already seeing EVs (from Hyundai and Kia so far) that can get a 200 mile charge in twenty minutes. That's a very useful mileage for a relatively short break, and for most people would require no stops shorter than they'd already take on a road trip (meals and bathroom breaks). The range dropoff needs to be explored more. The awd versions have heat pumps that shpuld help a lot. I wish heat pump prices would drop, as all EVs should at least have them as an option.
A 20 min charge time would be better than 1hr for sure. We just need that infrastructure everywhere that an EV can go (perhaps starting with malls and other popular destinations), and that won't be happening for a long while.
I live in Vietnam and the Venza always catches my eye for some reason!
Simply: thank you
Awesome. Such a pragmatic car, personally I think it looks great. Wish it was available in Australia.
Happy that the T-Shirts are back, but sadly, being in Canada, including shipping, would cost a whopping $91.98 CAD (~ $72.46 USD). At this point i will continue to support the channel simply by watching, liking and subscribing. Not much else I can do without trading in some of my maple leaf stamped gold bullion.
I was thinking you should post the t-shirt merch segment as a short. Then again, the target market would watch every video to the end, anyways.
With higher reliability than their gas-only counterparts, and rising fuel prices, hybrids are making more and more sense every day.
Great thanks for a true, longer term, experience based review. I drive a Lexus hybrid and I’m surprised about the drop in range in winter compared to fall. 40 mpg to 30mpg seems a lot. Our car only drops from 27mpg to 25.5 in winter. Same tires. What do you guys do in the winter to get to this immens drop?
I would guess they are parking the car outside and you park in an attached garage which receives residual heat from your house meaning the car and battery is potentially 30-40 degrees F warmer at cold start.
My experience using a Prius and parking outside as a taxi/rideshare driver is that the car needs up to 1 hour of driving to fully heatsoak the interior and hybrid battery if the car was left in a freezing environment overnight (0 F). If the car is kept in a 40 F or 50 F environment (attached garage) it only takes 10-15 minutes to heatsoak the interior and hybrid battery located under/behind the rear seats/floor.
Also if you do only highway driving (60+ mph) straight out of your neighborhood the car will warm itself much faster, the ICE will run full-time at highway speed regardless of the tempurature, and you will see much less difference in MPG than a car going through a mild suburban commute at 30-45 mph when fully frozen vs warm car that can shut off the ICE as needed.
Hybrid systems save the most fuel in 30-40 mph stop and go driving and do almost nothing at high speed steady state driving which is when a traditional ICE car is most efficient. Average MPG varies highly between every driver as it highly depends on the speeds and style of driving.
Hybrids generate electrical energy through regenerative braking instead of using your friction brake pads/rotors, if you aren't braking then you aren't harvesting any electrical energy and must get all your energy from gasoline. The only other place you can get electrical energy without burning gas is from a plug-in, which this car does not have.
I've had my Venza 2021 XLE with JBL and Softex upgrades, for 10 months now and I love it!!! I fill it up like 1 time a month. I have only put a tad under 4k miles on it and average 35 to 37 miles per gallon. I love in Colorado on the Western Slope, so it's super cold. Are you keeping your tires slightly over filled?? That's what my Toyota dealer told me to do, because my tires were tetering below the safe tire psi. It fixed the issue. Just a thought.
Please compare seating size to a highlander ( too narrow ) for my knees. Or a tundra . Fits great.
I was looking for a boring, reliable, ultra fuel-efficient, drive and forget it appliance experience and stumbled upon the Toyota Venza. I liked the interior, but I opted for the Rav4 hybrid as a daily. They both are about the same vehicle, but the Venza is a step up from the Rav4 with Toyota’s new design language, and it is still made in Japan, so it does have that going for it.
So smooth
interesting I just bought used Venza with the V6 Engine AWD XLE .. BUT its way older than this one .. for who don't know about it .. its a none Hybrid . 2012 ..the cons .. is Horrible gas mileage around 19 miles per gallon companied . But its very very reliable with very good power smooth ride V6 engine .. the reason why I'm watching this video .. is because I'm not into Electric Vehicles .. but ..Hybrid make more sense though. its too early to upgrade .. I still make payments one it .. I purchased it in 2019 with 48K on it .. now I have 60K on it .. so I got long way before upgrading .. if ever .. I really want to live whiteout auto loan for a while honestly !! but thanks to you guys .. and to everyone who provide or included additional info in the comments section .. sharing their personal experience it does help a lot ..
amen brah. i have a 2012 highlander, mpg sucks, but it's paid for, and going into debt to save $120 a month in gas is stupid.
I bought a Toyota Venza 2021 LE model. I was upgrading from a 2010 Honda Civic, mind you. So I didn't go bruhaha on all the tech, wanted buttons instead of a touchscreen, preferred a smaller screen and was okay with a simple backup camera that I had fitted myself in my old Civic.
Then I upgraded to Venza and it is a breeze. AWD, standard hybrid, smooth drive, consistently hitting >40mpg. The cabin is über comfortable, Android auto is perfect, the sound system is more than adequate. The adaptive cruise control makes my drive much less worrisome. I love long drives (easy 300 miles a day). So this car is more than perfect for me.
So if you are upgrading from an older vehicle, I would strongly suggest you this car. Go for a lower model since you don't want to overspend but want all the basic features such as adaptive cruise control.
Nikhil
I drove one for a week -- with a lot of rain and what not. I found the car to have a heavy feel, but did get great gas mileage.
Thank you for not reflexively hating on this because it doesn't lap the 'Ring in 8 flat or tackle the Rubicon.
I don't own anything like this, but can see exactly why it sells, and wouldn't care what Flatbills think if I did buy one.
wow saw the Venza at siz flags in vallejo, I was like damn that's some transference marketing psychology right there. Looks like a lexus to me tho
Gentlemen, When you do your next report on the Venza, would you please confirm whether the interior is larger and more accommodating than the new Lexus NX .
Hybrids are the best alternative for most of us. Electric for the city, gas for longer trips
The recent spike in gas prices have softened me a bit towards hybrids. I'd appreciate if they were a little more fun, but I couldn't possibly go all electric in a region that experiences winter.
What should soften you up is that not moving to alternative energy and vehicles is a massive national security problem.
@@apocalypse487 that's a big one too, yeah, more than the environmental or cost reasons
@@apocalypse487 And that was done on purpose by Biden and his liberal cohorts.
That flash frame at 1:32 🤣
I really appreciate this video. I have been realizing that along the way to full EV sales, all car makers should be moving their fleets to hybrids. All their cars. They need to establish the motor and battery pack supply chains and refine their driving dynamics. Looking at Honda's 2-motor drivetrain; they removed their CVT, motor accessory belt, starter, maybe even the alternator, and replaced it with 2 robust motors and a clutch pack. They simplified the powertrain (as far as hybrids go) to some extent. Every basic car should be hybridized, for the sake of comfort in driving. The trouble is finding a fuel efficient way to provide customers with their sports cars that they are accustomed to. I would love an AWD sports car with an electric front axle (daily driving) and a parallel hybrid rear axle. This is how Acura made their NSX. And the reverse of their RLX hybrid.
Weber University has an excellent video showing how Rock solid Toyotas ecvt actually is.
I'm glad mine has one even though it is noisy compared to a standard drivetrain.
Compared to my previous gas powered car.
1. Heated steering wheel slow to warm.
2. Heater slow to warm.
To all. I set my mode to sport mode full time. It’s fun to drive and a fast off a red light. Mileage penalty is well worth it. Since I live in a cold climate, I wouldn’t get a hybrid again.
The LE model is where it's at, minus the lack of heated seats. The LE has the better button interface.
So does the xle. The xle comes w the smaller touchscreen by default. The bigger one is optional
Looking forward to the long term 86 review
Now you're talking
We’ve been waiting for this… our Venza already has 22k and barely over a year old. She loves it, but she’s no NPC lol
Good to know Martin Shkreli has taken over your T-shirt production
Goated reviewers
You literally changed the thumbnail while I was watching the video. That’s a first!!!
Woo. I managed to get a shirt this time. Will the color match well with all the gold bullion I carry around?
Well done. I’ve owned a 21 Venza Limited for 10 months now. First review to discuss the decreased mpg and mileage driving in winter months. Like Jack, my Venza mileage decreased 20-25% (28-32 mpg) for winter driving with a range of 300 miles. The drivability of this vehicle with the ECVT is mundane at best. So many negatives outweighing the positives to mention with the Venza. in short, when the lease is up it’s gone.
don't forget how the published fuel tank capacity is nothing but lies, the published capacity is 14 gallons but you'll only fill up 11 gallons at the pump even though the dash say 20 miles to empty
Please share your negatives. I've had mine for 13 months 18,000 miles. I don't like the Toyota navigation system so I typically use Android auto. It took me a while to get used to the touch sensitive controls and not having a volume knob to quickly turn the volume down when I needed to. (I just hit the power button now)
So far I've been pretty happy with mine.
Tge great majority of the US population lives in places with veey little (or no) extreme winter weather. Battery range may be a big issue in the upper Midwest and inland Northeast, but most people along the East Coast, almost everyone in the southern half of the country, and people in the Pacific Coast states will see very little drop.
@@powerguymark I had a 2021 XLE for 2 years and the gas mileage was great but hated the touch-sensitive controls. the biggest problem is the high-voltage cable to the all-wheel drive system. the majority of RV4 hybrids & plug- in and Venza corrode within the first 2 years because of the snow & salt. it is only covered by the 3-year basic warranty and not the 8-year hybrid system. the cost of replacement is 5k to 8k.but the replacement cable is the same as the old one. Toyota almost gave me the same price that I paid 2 years ago so I got a 2023 RV4 XLE premium gas model. the ride is similar to the Venza but I feel more connected with the road in the RV4
I swear if you don't make a video on the Elantra N.... it's basically a 918 Spyder
1:31, thanks for that cut
Compared to her RX350, road noise and infotainment quirks are the biggest complaints from my mom. She likes the power train, and wanted to be able to have a relationship with easy to access Toyota dealer network, versus busy and scare Lexus dealer network.