Get Body Armour while you still can
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Get Body Armour while you still can, especially if you are in the UK or similar countries with growing violent crime and little in the way of legal self-defence is allowed.
I'd personally recommend surplus Police body armour consisting of a front and back kevlar panel with added stab protection in a carrier, these can normally be bought for £30-40 secondhand compared to spending hundreds on a new kevlar vest with panels.
However if you are willing to spend more you can get a much better and more comfortable vest.
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Body armor already requires a license in Australia for example. How vile must a government be to ban civilans from owning purely defensive objects
BigMek456 They don't want the tax cattle to be able to resist extortion.
How can they try to regulate body armor when you can buy materials and make it ourselves. SIMPLE THEY CAN'T!!!
well here in the UK were not allowed to own firearms or other weapons to defend ourselves so the only option for us at this point with all the knife crime is to own a stab/ballistic vests to protect ourselves, I believe that civilians have a right to at least own a handgun to protect themselves in there own home but if thats not allowed then we should at least be allowed to own body armour instead
@@green15838 *cough cough* demolition ranch *cough cough*
Lord Admiral Spire , the only reason the UK government are giving as to why civilians/police shouldn’t have guns is that ‘If we have guns, they will too!’ Which is pretty idiotic in my opinion as criminals already have guns. However...
Uk gun deaths 2017 - 34
USA gun deaths Christmas Day - 41
You decide if it’s worth it...
For some reason these are Illegal in Ireland
I live in a really dodgy area where people are stabbed to death or shot every week and I am not allowed to wear one when I go out late at night for a run.
not allowed to carry a knife for personal protection either but good thing the government said that they're illegal otherwise all those criminals that break the law would be going round with knives
InsertGeneric Insult that's why they don't have criminals in sweden; it is illegal to be criminall.
Is that in RoI or NI?
Either way it's really stupid as you say, if you have no evil intent and want something for protection, especially a vest that cannot hurt other people, you are just protecting yourself but sadly the law seems to hate citizens in most countries now.
build one yourself. if the government doesnt help, help yourself. a few thin steelplates (im not shure what steel is best tho) stichet into an old sweater boom you got a vest. its reliable as shit is worth in gold but to be honest this will propably be a s good as it gets xD
blueskull 35 don't use steel use thick aluminium as it catches the blade. However with steel the blade slides across the surface and could enter into an unprotected part of the body
Is chainmail legal? Chainmail is more effective against knives impact weapons than kevlar, would be worth a look.
I work pub security and wear a level 2 ballistic, level 1 stab resistant covert vest. (brought new). What is worth more then the vest itself is good situational awareness and the ability and skill to fight back. Don't be put off leaving an area if you feel unsafe, better to be safe then sorry. Keep up the good work.
Exactly you need to be alert and prepared for fight or flight, but obviously having the vest on improves your odds, even when I had my vest on I would know to look out for the junkies and avoid them as much as possible.
People who get stabbed in the chest are hard.
Mainly from rigor mortis.
Made me chuckle.
that made me smile, thank you.
*You got a body armourrr Loicance here Mayte!!!??*
The Bass Box Whips out his quran
*I am above the law*
Hope you guys get your country sorted out
I hope so too, cheers.
cheers
Says the american lmao
@@handlotion8244 We're worse off we cant fight off the gov if they ever became (openly) tyrannical
"buy a size bigger" dude I was wondering if I was gonna have to get an extra piece or armor for my abdomen but you put it simply and easy, genius in a way!
A 16 year old kid was just stabbed to death in Liverpool. Those surplus vests seem pretty good and covert.
Going to keep my eye out on ebay for one
Yeah better to spend £40 on one than get killed in by being stabbed in the chest, all of the ex-police vests should have both the kevlar and mail in, but army vests may only contain the kevlar.
Some three kids where stabbed in my area over the last year I’m too scared to go out but I have to go on runs so idk what to do
I really cant believe that the British police dont cary guns like wtf bo you expect to beat a guy with your fists or yell at him?
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batons, cs spray, more and more are getting armed with tasers, as gun crime is incredibly low compared to the US, it's not needed as much as in some places
Gun crime is now higher in the UK than it ever was when people could legally own firearms, it's low compared to the US but it's rising rapidly like all violent crime.
spectacledllama tazers dont work all the time and if the guy is high on some shit cs spray might not work and if he is carrying a knife a baton might not work
Weaponsandstuff93 personally i think you guys should be allowed to carry knifes like here in serbia we also cannot carry guns but our gun laws arnt bas as yours (the are still bad)
spectacledllama a firearm is the best defense period. As any melee fight will almost always end in both parties dead or hurt you are always safer if you have a gun
looks like im gonna buy a vest now
Good idea
Thank you for this advise. Living in the U.K. myself and used your advise to make an informed decision as to what vest to buy.
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Happy 4th of July to any viewers in the U.S.A
Definetly going to buy one I found a good ex police one level 2 kevlar and is stab proof and it says it can take a sidearm like a pistol so I think thats a good buy for £39.95 with 3 quidd postage
Yeah very similar to this one, £43 is not a lot to spend if it saves your life.
Correct.
CuriousHusky123 honestly I recommend level lllA concealable vest but that just me
where did you find this?
Just got a new plate for mine. Happy 4th to those who celebrate
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You we're dead on the money man. In the northern US, they're making it harder to purchase vests now due to the recent school shooting. Now tell me that doesn't sound counterproductive.
A word of caution, kevlar has a limited lifespan, typically 5 to 7 years after which the kevlar weave starts to come apart meaning it's less effective at stopping threats. If you seriously think you'll need the protection a vest offers (security worker/door supervisor etc...) I would never buy second hand. If you buy new you know you can trust the integrity of the kevlar. Alternatively you can get polycarbonate vests which don't deteriorate and also protect from blunt force trauma
Kevlar expiration is massively exaggerated, and the mail in these vests doesn't expire, the bit that actually stops knives. Would agree for a pure stab vest though polycarbonate would be better.
Do some reading on how kevlar "expires" it only truly gets compromised if exposed to water and sunlight constantly, if kevlar is sent off for servicing the panels are inspected and either disposed of or have a new date printed on them.
If you are guaranteed to need it then yes a new vest is preferable but if it's a choice between affording a vest or not, second hand is the way to go.
Weaponsandstuff93 I agree second hand is better than nothing but if i were to be trusting my life on something I'd get new. If that vest has maile in then yeah, that's not going to degrade but with time the kevlar weave does become less woven. I've seen it happen in my old vests. There
was a news story recently of a lad who thought his vest was stab proof, it was old and it wasn't and he died testing it
Lots of stab vests aren't fit for purpose like the one the Slingshot Channel got in trouble for stabbing through, aluminium plates rather than a proper filler.
The vest is meant to be that short so you are still able to move around and bend over
Soon people will be walking around with kitchen cutting boards hidden under their shirt in London.
That's not a bad idea, a few people on here have done videos of making stab panels from household objects.
You know its british when it stops bows
Body armour is certainly growing in importance.
If you live somewhere like Africa, Bangladesh, Pakistan, London, or Brazil, they should be worn daily now.
One quick comment in regards to the section of this video addressing that most vests don’t go down past the naval: they’re not supposed to. A ballistic/stab resistant vest is meant to protect the heart and lungs, not the stomach. Anything more, you sacrifice mobility, comfort, and it makes wearing a vest more obvious.
You know what sacrifices more mobility? A stabbed kidney, liver or even intestines…
Size up for protection, stay true to size for mobility. Mil folks go either way.
I already say ahead of myself with armor vests
Where's the best place to buy one? I Carry bags money through town quite often and im realise i should be buying something to protect myself
I live in Kent and lots of Londoners are here now and stabbings and drugs are rising by the day so ime getting a specialised Kevlar vest that's very good and very thin to protect me from 9mm and knives it'll cost a few hundred but that's a small price if it saves you life
Yeah you can get a vest like this though for £30+
In Taiwan, we don't have any laws prohibiting these kinds of personal protective equipment, but the problem we have here is these things are way too expensive and our surplus stores don't usually sell secondhand products, so for us price and the scarcity of these equipments are the main obstacles
That's a shame but it's good they're not technically illegal, funny you mention Taiwan as my friends were in Taipei recently.
Kevlar lined motorcycle hoody 👍
Wish it got to the point that ordinary clothing could protect against stabbings
Eventually it would be possible, you'd just need something very dense that is light and breathable enough that it's not a chore to wear.
To me the profit and innovative potential in such of an idea would be revolutionary tbh
Just bought one
Here in Canada it's legal on the Federal level and in most provinces to own/wear body armour, except my province but luckily you're exempt if you have a firearms license .
That's not too bad then.
Oh, dang! thanks for the reply I myself have been a gas mask fan? well I have a British Mk. III mask I bought from a Canadian war vet, a Ukrainian GP-5 and British civil kids mask(not sure the model) Thanks BTW about the asbestos warning!, I had no clue before!!
Hi, I was just wondering where did/do you buy your vests from? I'm security on night club doors. Things are definitely getting a bit more wild now in my town.
One of the many police surplus sellers on eBay
My lvl2 fount and back panel came today, very light weight for what they can do to protect you. Buy Them While You Can!
Excellent yeah it's really no issue carrying them on you most of the year.
Very sound advice! I did not really think too much about getting armour due to the price of new equipment but now that you mention the possibility of second hand stuff, it is much less prohibitive financially! Cheers!
Yeah you basically get a 99%+ chance it will work but it costs maybe 10% of the new stuff.
Plus, most mugs who would try to stab you would most likely go for the torso as it is the biggest target. Doubt many of the idiotic types have any training whatsoever.
I remember seeing a video where one guy spends $30 in the US to make armour that stops 9mm, would be interesting to see how that holds up against a knife.
I would recommend the White Meggitt Covert Body Armour Stab Bulletproof Vest as it provides protection and it very discreet.
Looks good.
I'd love to own body armour, sadly in many parts of Canada any form of body armour is illegal
That's really stupid that a purely defencive item is illegal.
i got one but its a bit older. its the same joerg sprave used in his video with the "cursed" knive but mine has an other inlay. a sweater does the job for it too if you wanna run around in warmer environments (you can see it a bit but its nearly unnoticable)
I like that body armour
Yeah it's good for being cheap.
whats the money say :D i might buy it
Just get a 2½ cm hardened steel plate and put it in a plate carrier.
Heavy, but legal.
Yeah steel plates work very well.
Saw it on amazon, do we need a licence in the UK to buy them? it is scary to see what's happening, considering buying one for when out.
No, you don't need a license for body armour.
Before you know it you will need a licence to leave RUclips comments
Definitely getting me one of these, or perhaps stab proof or 9mm plates.
It's probably more expensive but mail shirts if properly made(riveted) with half reasonable steel are just as effective for protecting against stabs or slashes if they have ever as blades aren't magical and are only marginally better than they were centuries ago. Firearms are what made steel armor less useful, though the first ones up to about the 1600 plate would sometimes protect you.
Honestly if you wanted to go full hog you could wear a mail shirt over a Kevlar vest made to stop bullets. It might be cumbersome but I don't think it would actually weigh as much as people would think.
Though it's really sad and disturbing that some places considered "first world" are getting so damned bad one has to think about wearing armor in this freaking day and age.
Godspeed sir.
You can buy butchers mail which is the same thing for around £100, cheaper just to get dedicated anti-stab gear.
Totally depends on how you get it, they do butchers mail as a full torso piece for slaughterhouse use.
A good thing to know liam is the liners from the more common ecba vests fit inside osprey covers well and sized the same to so no need to guess mate.
Thanks for the info.
What about full on plate carriers or any other military style vests? Obviously not for wearing when you go out as they are hard to hide behind a coat.
Are they worth it?
Worth it if you are expecting to be shot at with rifles, otherwise no, due to the extra weight and bulk.
Also with rifle rounds if you get hit repeatedly even if it's like AR500 steel and not ceramic plates, and they manage to hit your plate and not you the blunt force trauma would pulp your insides after a bit.
I have seen some of those armor plates stop .50 BMG or .338 Lapua Magnum rounds, and while it might not penetrate if you got hit with one of those in your plate you would either hit the ground hard enough to shatter your skull or your heart would be pulped from the impact or it would stop your heart, give you a heart attack from the blunt force transferred through the plate.
Also the main reason for that kind of armor is to let you live long enough to find cover and fight back, you aren't really fleeing on foot with armor that heavy. Mail or Kevlar armor? Might be tiring but with the terrified adrenaline you might be able to run in it. Plate carriers not so much I'd think, especially if you aren't training physically hard for endurance.
Fair enough
They should have sleeves you probably couldn’t make the sleeves as protective but I think is could help
Some jackets do but regular kevlar vests are designed to be worn over other clothing, so if you had a jacket with slash resistant material you could wear the vest over it.
Weaponsandstuff93 ok that’s
Wth yesterday I looked for them online, I'm even more paranoid now
Why be paranoid?
I have a vest but not kevlar or anything, it just has issued plates in it, but still pretty useful
As in a plate carrier then and not a kevlar vest?
Weaponsandstuff93 yeah, forget how you call it. Haha
Do not buy AR-500 steel plates. Spall is cool.
Even ignoring spalling those would be pretty damned heavy to walk around in for very long, I think that level of armor is only really viable in an army or militia where you have lots of other guys to help you, vehicles to ride around it or firearms to fight back with after the initial attack, you ain't running too damned far wearing heavy armor plates. Knights who wore plate didn't walk after all they rode horses for a reason.
These level 2 vests have riveted maille inside them? I never knew that.
Police ones do but lots of panels won't, the whole point of the riveted mail is to give the added stab protection, the more expensive vests have a stab panel in that's really tough in-front of the kevlar itself.
I was just looking online at second hand police issue lvl 2 vests, and it always states that they could be unfit for purpose, also you said that sometimes they take the panels out, so where would you recommend to go in the UK to get a working one without anything removed?
I’m already way ahead of my self with vests
As in you have a few spare?
I'm guessing they're a clip in for a radio but I'm sort of wondering what those plastic bits are on either collarbone.
Yeah quick release clip things for certain police equipment like radios, pouches etc.
just make your own plate carrier then make some plates out of fiberglass or carbon fiber
I'm 14 I live in London I where a keverl vest I don't Wana get stabbed
It's a shame that, it's necessary for people to wear them for that, but better safe than sorry.
i got my level 3a very very cheap. brand new £100 (the site has since shut down) but the issue i have with the vests in general is that they arent heavy and they are very comfortable. but they arent breathable, they get very hot.
Yeah they are much nicer in the winter than summer.
the hottest i will routinely wear one is about 15c. obviously if im going out really late i will wear it but if im wearing it all day i wouldnt want it to be any hotter than 15c. i applaud police officers cause that body Armour will be hell during this heat waves
I can't believe people really rely on body and not more ammo or an extra optic and in the correct I spend my money on broadheads & field tips which go through low-level body armor and staple you to the ground get a crossbow if you can't get anything to protect yourself fast enough put a broadhead arrow through them and take their gun no matter what you put an arrow through somebody they don't so much worried about you so they're worrying about the arrow hanging out of their body❤😂 knowledge and advise to those scared and needing reliable protection a crossbow will
Most of the people with body armour have strict laws on self defence
This is VERY offtopic but does any body know if STALKER call of pripyat is better or STALKER shadow of Chernobyl?
Kosmos SoC for gameplay, CoP trades varied areas for a few more open maps and polishes the gameplay for more immersion though it loses some of its difficulty edge.
If you are more of a sandbox, freeroam without a story kind of guy you can instead install the free standalone mod Call of Chernobyl (it has all stalker game maps and more and has alot of mod support just like the other games but with more cataloging of them) if you want a taste of the series before you buy and play the main games for a immersive storyline.
Star Moko ah ok thank you
I prefer Call of Pripyat as it's a lot more polished and everything works okay without mods. SoC obviously started the series and has nostalgia value though.
Weaponsandstuff93 YOU have value.
Might buy one of the old white stab proof police vests when i get enough money.
Sadly ballistic vests are rare in germany at least on ebay you can only buy them for a price where you could buy a brand new one
Yes old Police issue stuff is decent.
Yep, maybe some new ballistic Kevlar will fit it.
Well but first i gotta find a good seller, a decent price and just get the moneyvfor it.
If weapons are banned it's only stupid... but armor should always be legal no matter weapon laws
The surplus I go and shop at had a plate carrier that was super heavy and I looked inside the pouches and they had steel plates inside and the vest itself was super thick I guess some kind of flack material and they were selling it with the plate for $100.
Good price, I'd pick that up myself.
Weaponsandstuff93 someone had the same idea because the next time I went in it was gone
Are you allowed to own a plate carrier?
Yes but the plates are hard to find.
Some surplus stores have a lot of those for cheap. I use something similar for Airsoft mil-sims but they're useful if stuff hits the fan.
Do they actually have the inserts in?
Weaponsandstuff93 The store I found locally in Glasgow had a similar vest for £50, found an osprey with ballistic plates for £80. The guy in the store was ex-military so maybe he had extra contacts.
hey weaponsandstuff93 do you know the game world of guns disassembly? if not its a game where you can disassemble guns, field strip and see how it works i think you will like it its available on steam just a suggestion :)
Yeah I "played" a bit of that on Steam
oh ok :)
Does kevlar catch blades? I'm not confident wearing any form of body protection that doesn't have a stoprib.
Partially, better than regular clothing but it's the riveted mail in front that offers the bulk of the stab protection.
Where to you buy the latest and brand new ones ?
I have an ecba vest and I've been wondering if it is stab proof but I've never found an answer.
What’s the general opinion on Covert vs Overt vests? Looking at two Aegis models to the same standard
I'd say covert is better as it's easier to wear it under clothes and not make it obvious
It's fine in the countryside for now, good idea though bah
Word being for now
my son needs a stab proof vest like the style you have on . all new to me, what price and where should I go to get one. on a budget. hes just got SIA licence and doing door supervisor work. all in one if any imfo will be great.
I'd make sure if you get one cheap it's in good condition, make sure it's stab and spike rated for better stab protection
hey man, can you tell me pls, what is that type of "accessories attachment" or whatever that is on the left and on the right side of your shoulders. thx
There's nothing currently on there but I think it's to clip on radios/pouches etc.
Would you recommend a level 2 rather than a level 3? Because whilst a level 3 has more protection it isn't really worth the sacrifice of loosing agility, what do you think?
Not much difference in weight between a modern level 2 and 3 vest, it's only when you add ceramic plates that the weight goes up by a big amount.
Hello my friend I have a British DPM shrapnel or something vest with the liner, is it stab-viable? Bulletproof?
Is that the old flak jacket, not sure what the kevlar rating is, if it's the kevlar and not ballistic nylon one, but would probably only stop pistol rounds.
Well said it is getting bad over here.
Cheers
I have a spetsnaz fort defender 2 would you say that it is capable of? Id say wouldn’t be practical to wear in normal use but more for extreme situations??
That has plates and kevlar correct?
That would be very effective for actual use assuming you are not shot repeatedly.
Cheers for that and I’ll try not to get shot repeatedly, thanks
yep. we're fucked, from a non-body-armour-permit-holding Australian. look up dog latin and it's use in law making. look up fractional reserve lending and how the federal reserve (atleast in america) charges interest on money created when they are a private bank. i don't know how my ancestors let this happen to us and i am saddened to think that this is the world we are passing on to the next generation, but find someone who cares, am i right?
i'm not in or from UK but dang
Do vests need to be under your clothes or can you wear them on top, I've got a level 3 vest ex armed police and are not sure if it's a good idea to wear
There's no law about wearing it, so obviously wear it how you feel most comfortable, slimline vests you can wear under clothes are best for covert reasons, you don't attract attention to them.
Just got my self an ex police stab spike bullet proof vest for 60 quid
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Where could I find one these vest, I have found countless amounts of level 2 vest, but they all seem to lack stab protection. Any advice?
Did you find police vests? If so they nearly always come with the mail layer.
Weaponsandstuff93 I did find police vestd, so most might have a chain mail layer, but I also found a company that manufactures body armour, and is based out of the UK called safeguard armour. Even though it is quite expense I might buy from them because they allow you to choose from serveral vest models, level of protection from firearms, level of protection from edge blades, and level of protection from spike weapons.
Also it might be interesting and helpful to people looking to purchase body armour if you made a video on the CAST levels, and NIJ levels.
Thank you for your time
awesome video
Cheers
where could i get one second hand ???
Government/community problem, not police... they keep getting told off for discriminating against people who they randomly search even though its proven to be effective, they can't win.
Take metatrons advice get some riveted chainmail works better than some modern vests if its made right
As said in the video this vest contains both kevlar and riveted mail.
Yeah but if they ban vests I bet my last dollar that mail will still be accessible, I should clarify this was more of an if your too late tip.
Also thanks for the response mate I can always appreciate community interaction.
My type of armor I need police riot gear a gas mask which I have and a really good riot shield that can take bullets to it and some weapons
That's not a riot shield that's a ballistic shield.
Where do you get them from
Were u order from
Where do u buy them
Are your sides protected by that vest? Or is that less of an issue?
i believe they are
In these yes as the rear panel has side sections on it, on some vests though they are just a front and rear panel.
But I already have diamond armor
Are you able to wash this in a washing machine?
If you take the kevlar panels out before washing the carrier yes, but washing the panels will ruin them.
Morrowind map in background?
Yes
What vests would u recommend
vestguard has some good stock
Where did you get that stab vest
Police surplus on eBay
is it legal to buy this in england?
@@GreatBritain105 cool
@@captainchaos1741 ye
it is legal to wear body armour in the UK?
Yes
well, too late now haha
Surprised this stuff hasn't been banned yet
Me too, hence the video.
How do u wash it
Take out plates (if metal) or take out the kevlar part if you can and wash the holder.
how much did you pay for that one ?
£40 if I remember.
what website if u can remember ?
Any police comments? No?! GOOD!
What?
@@Weaponsandstuff93 The problem with crime rising in UK is quite sad and true. But I did not see (as far as I looked in the comments on this and other videos) one police person arguing against that and what you are showing, in comparison to other videos related to this and similar topics of crime I have watched. Which is good. To me it means, that at least that no one is going to make you problems of what you are showing. (Of course I just discoverer your channel and IDK what is the truth of that - i judge of what I see right now).
BTW - Thank you for your videos. :)
@@Magrotth Well if anyone starts making really rude comments etc on my videos I normally delete the comments or block the user, I've had a few people saying the crime statistics are made up etc but they can never back those up with facts.
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You don’t have the right to criticise the uk police on their duties there is a hell of a lot more to the job than just catching criminals, everyday they are doing a hell of a lot more than you would think like preventing terrorist attacks before they can happen, but no sure you complain about potentially being stabbed and how they should focus their rapidly decreasing budget on preventing knife crime(which they also do without you noticing) over a national tragedy that would effect more people. If you feel the need to buy a stab vest that is absolutely fine but consider that you should equally as much be aware of your surroundings. Not just that but it is people like you that cause mass panic around situations that are a lot smaller than that are made out to be by ‘urging’ people to buy a stab vest makes us look like an uncivilised nation which we are far from. Can i also add that you are recommending people to buy a stab vest that isn’t used by the police which those reasons being that those vests have a limited life time and weaken under the elements of moisture, fluids and change in weather.
Dead right👍. The police have got a lot on when it comes to revenue collecting. Handing out covid fines, bullying the public. It's a wonder they have time for it all
Look up Alex Bellfield, the police raided his house numerous times and visited the local pubs daily to "reassure" the public.