Before I get distracted, I'd like to point out that in the book world, romance makes by far the most money, potentially around twice as much as the next highest. Yet, with a rare few exceptions, how often do you hear people talking about romance books? I suspect it is more or less the same for these sorts of games.
A friend recommended a game to me called FlipWitch. It is an adult Metroidvania game that is actually really good. People talk about the games that are actually good.
You don't hear about romance novels if you're not looking for it sure, but you can find quite some content if you're looking. You can't find any significant discussion about these games even if you want to.
One thing you might not have factored in is that a lot of these games are very short. A bunch of people buy a game that costs $5 on sale, or whatever, and only takes 30 mins to a few hours to finish (or lose interest in). So if you look at the current players charts no-one's playing it because everyone who bought it has already finished it. Also Steam gives you an option to hide what game you're currently playing (presumably because this sort of game exists :P) which may or may not get included in the 'current player' stats.
You can "hide" a game but that just removes it from your game list. If you play it, assuming your profile isn't completely private, people will see it on your recently played list. There was a rumour they were going to let you make certain (i.e. "certain") game private so you could play them and no-one would know but nothing has "come" of it.
5 dollars for shit like this is insanely expensive. You can get AAA games for around that price after some years on sale. Witcher 3 with all DLC has cost me just 8 dollars on Steam.
I think the reason that steam charts are low is because you can set your status to "Invisible" on steam so nobody sees what your playing, including SteamDB/Steam Charts. There could be way more players but people are too embarrassed to show on their profile that they are currently playing a booby game.
There are some really good ones, but my steam account has well a lot of my friends and some family. I'm hiding that stuff from them, and under no circumstances am I going to review it, they could see that. I have to hide my shame.
@@PurpGhost123Shame is something that will stay with you for as long as you continue to play that shit. It is identical to porn addiction man, and that is extremely damaging, and that's coming from someone who struggled heavily with it in the past. I hope you can brake the habit of impulsively buying these cheap 5 dollar games.
I can honestly admit that that's what I do. As I will also admit that I have bought a few of the 'higher quality' ones; One's that had a good story, or some good gameplay, or whatever. But I have never played a single one of them without being set on the 'Invisible status'.
@@PurpGhost123 You know that no matter what you do if they view your profile they can see it in your recent games list or just your games list (i know cause i tested it myself)
A lot of these games have patreon pages, discord servers and communities in general. I find it unlikely that most of the popular ones are somehow a secret criminal enterprise, personally. Might explain some of the atrociously bad ones though.
I still have the impression that a lot of these 'games' are cookie-cutter copies of each other which are automatically generated for a simple cash grab. This is easiest to see with those 'visual novel' type of games as they all follow the exact same pattern, it's just the images that are replaced. Even if it's not criminal, it's often garbage quality and probably done to sell as much copies as possible on the first day of release, never to be seen again.
Why can't you people stick to the simplest answers like "atrociously bad ones were made for 5 minutes and are meant to played for 5 minutes"? Why do people always need to find some controversy and shade and go witch hunt? :D
Another thing to note is that a lot of these "boobie games" started on Patreon where people have, in some cases, been following their progress for ages. There may not be reviews on Steam because all of the discussion is on either patreon or discord.
I remember a decade and a half ago these would had been flash games that leaked out to flash archive sites. No one really paid for them back then either. First they moved to the mobile market, then steam once they realized they were just as badly vetted.
@@TheKeller101 sorry it was a half thought that got some wires crossed. I mainly meant trash apps being posted up because there was little to no quality control happening.
Personally, patreon seems like the more likely money laundering scheme to me. If you have a low effort game that took 5 years to make that's 5 years you can launder money with it. And then you release it on steam and give the patrons a steam key and you're done. Move on to the next grift.
@@TheKeller101 both Apple and Google moderate their app store, but iphones generally can't download third party apps by default unlike Android. thus it isn't a lack of vetting on the store but people downloading the apps from third party places that have no vetting.
In the past 2 years specifically, Steam has really started to allow more porn to be uploaded to it, as long as you label it as such. I remember _the second_ that they allowed porn mods to be uploaded to the Workshop, Left 4 Dead 2's page was flooded with a billion naked Zoey mods. It was hilarious and baffling to see all the horny people come out of the woodwork. This is truly the most Valve Playerbase thing of all time
Yeah taking Skyrim or fallout 4 as an exemple the number of pornographic mods are weirdly high for something that as nothing to do with it. I truly believe that there is a pretty large amount of people that are into those sort of game, otherwise nude/porn mods wouldnt be so ‘’popular’’, but due to the taboo nature of it its also very plausible that there isn’t a vocal minority to criticize the game, leading to a pretty high number of shitty game being released to try and grab as much bucks as possible before being forgotten a week later.
@@azzarnthelizard I think with Skyrim and Fallout 4 is this "You see I'm playing these classic games, but what you don't know is I've completely overhauled them with boobie mods" It's kind of an open secret to some. I have a few decent quality to surprisingly good boobie games in my steam library
I mean, we hold entire parades for the LGBTQ folks and no one bats an eye. Meanwhile, we put boobs in a video game and all of a sudden everyone discovers their evolved sense of modesty and it's all "impure" and "degenerate". Just remember, you and I are here only because our fathers were horny. It's a time-honored tradition for men to covet boobs. If you go through the 7 degrees of Kevin Bacon, you'd realize that youtube is only here because the parents of the people who created the internet watched Footloose with their girlfriends and through the power of Bacon, they shunned religion and John Lithgow and here we are!
One aspect of the money laundering that you didn't touch up on: The true genius of making the porn games is not only the best amount of plausible deniability, but also the fact that porn games will actually make a number of honest sales, too. You could make any kind of crap shovelware to use for money laundering, but most games made in one week just aren't going to attract any attention (which also makes your game look suspicious) but the porn games will actually get some attention and sales from the curious, especially when they start popping up on the trending pages. Those stats you showed are from real players. Try to get that many bonus sales from some shovelware puzzle gem thing.
Reginald is the best kind of censorship to ever exist in the history of censorship. He's cute, he makes naughty things look better, and he's Reggie. What else could you possibly want?
I would rather look at 15 minutes of Reggie than 15 minutes of... I would rather blow my brain out of my cranium with a revolver than say the word honestly. Especially if Reggie could censor it.
I looked on SteamDB for some stats, and Milfs of Sunville had 263 players in game at the time, with a 835 concurrent player peak. Which is definitely not AAA levels, but it's enough to make a small studio thrive by having a quick turnaround on games (which is why it feels like the home page is flooded. You need to make multiple horny games quickly to make a decent living making them)
@@aarepelaa1142 Don't forget that concurrent player only counts the amount of players who played it at the exact same time. The game has 1347 reviews on steam now, so the actual amount of people who bought it is probably much higher
take into account many of these games have patreons were even trash games can make over 500$ a month, some of the bigger games make well over 10,000$ a month (even this is low balling it)
My friend has a hobby of collecting these... things.. But not for playing. He just buys.. every single sex game he comes across on the platform. I once saw his folder of... uhh yeah.. stuff. Thats literally a professional collection of horniness. And thanks to the Family Sharing feature of steam, I see all kinds, races, types, *ages* , genres and breeds of stuff... And uhh yeah turns out these give shit ton of steam xp and achievements.
I also suspect that a lot of younger "gamers" buy these games because they don't yet know how easy it is to find adult content online. Or they think it's easier to hide it from their parents by buying on Steam or something. Young people are pretty dumb.
It's worth noting that a lot of the complaints about the visual novel style can apply to most traditional visual novels; porn and not. I think a less cynical reason for it is that, as you said, they are relatively easy to make and program, can function as a side project that they can sell and sex tends to sell.
You don't even need to make the engine itself, RenPy and RPGmakers do exist. And with the rise of AI generated text and pictures, you barely even need to kow anything past beginner level use of the program to put those text and images in. It's even easier than making those weird 3D asset-flip games.
Imagine 10 years from now a super popular indie game is going to release made by one guy, and in an interview they ask them what got them into game development. "Well, funny story..."
There are actually quite some...certain games with way better story than AAA titles. And I mean WAY better in a nonsexual way. And yes, I get it. 💀on me.
many actors and artists start in porn too, it's easier to make money at a lower skill level in that area so it allows you to support yourself through your training without needing rich parents.
I feel like number 3 is the most likely Its important to note, its NEW and trending, not just trending, often times youll see that these games came out the exact day you find them, they are being pumpped out so fast and often that even if they get no sales they still satisfy the requirement of being new
Even if it is money laundering Valve has no real incentive to fix it. They still get a 30% cut, and it looks legit enough that they have plausible deniability if it ever got bad enough to go to court.
There is a legal incentive. They have to try and prevent money laundering, they can't just allow it to happen. And morally, these people laundering could be human or drug traffickers and nobody wants to have them around.
@@JahnDoh-dp4fi Conspiracy Theory here: Perhaps it only looks like they aren't doing anything, but in reality they are tracking it all at the Feds request. And they have a deal with the Feds to leave stuff like that up so the Feds can do research on those methods and how to prevent them. Like those old Pedo sites that the Feds would discover then secretly take over.
4:49 You know, a VN I played recently took me over 25 hours to reach the first R18 scene. I had already forgotten it was an eroge at that point and what kept me going was the legit good story and characters lol.
That's how adult games should be made. Make it a decent game first, and then add in some spice. Something like "Treasure Of Nadia" is a good point-and-click adventure in its own right, and it would be just as good if you leave the sex scenes out.
@@Stoney3K The problem is AVN players have no idea what they want. Devs who do that get tons of 1 star ratings for not enough lewds. Then Devs that make lewd focused games get 1 star for not enough story. lol. For some reason AVN specifically seems to attract people who think every game needs to be catered to their preference without thinking about what kind of game it is or the fact that there are literally hundreds of thousands of other games that could suit their tastes instead.
I think he's just talking about the low effort stuff and shows on new and trending. Some Japanese smut games are really good, but even those don't hit new and trending.
It's weird that somebody having "put in a lot of research" knows so little about them. There are huge communities for them, some of them are extremely popular. They are all mostly made in 3 engines, unity, rpg maker and ren'py. The last one being specifically made for visual novels. The barrier to entry as a dev for these games is very low. Despite that, it takes months if not a couple of years to make them as they are usually done by one person. Most of those devs have patreon pages where you can follow the progress being made. Many of them do seem to be fairly low quality, but consider that you need to make thousands of, or even more, images for the game just for conversations to match and look fairly natural. And that's not even taking the spicy scenes into account. The reason why there are so many of them is because most are made for a few specific kinks in mind which then dont appeal much to people with other kinks. So there has to be a lot of variety.
The problem is that these are one of those things where the game looks easy to put together until you actually do it. The time investment is crazy high even for a short game. Anyone who participates in Itch game jam can attest to that. A simple game can use up the entire allocated time given.
The real trick to finding the proper games of this category is finding any game that was originally japanese and boom, you have a game with actual mechanics, actual story, actual work put into it AND a bunch of plot...... like 50% of the time
@@n0yesn0yesn0 Just like why you see the animation world is dominated by japanese studio, the game industry is actually pretty serious in japan. You have all niches category that cater to a lot of genre and demographic that japan studio produce from normal, cute and degenerate content category, they have it all, and its a serious industry, where its actual company we talk about. The rest of the world is left with crowd funding for the indie dev to make a living and these devs usually start with only one person team.
In my experience... I bought a LOT of those games, but never played them. Seems like in some countries like Argentina (is were I live) prices are so wrong that you can literally buy the game for lets say... $7.00 pesos, when is on discount, and the game has trading cards selling on the Steam Community Market for like $5.00 pesos, just by buying the game, and farming them with an app, you gain free money, it's really funny. But the money laundering theory might be the most likely one
You know what they say: "If you have an outlet that allows adult content people will flock to it because not many places allow that kind of stuff. Like reddit and twitter are borderline porn websites because 50% of people on there are making adult content."
Tumblr banning porn, resulting in the horny userbase spreading across the mainstream internet completely changing it was the greatest evidence of this.
Yeah, there is not really too much thing on twitter to do. Maybe following some game's or company's account to see news about them, or reading stupid internet drama (which happens daily on twitter), or be part of the mob that makes the drama, and of course the lot of adult content.
Yeah but those actually have people interacting with them, like he said these games usually have 5-11 reviews and nobody is taking the bait, yet they are listed among games selling in the millions. I wonder who could be behind pushing porn on kids like this huh weird maybe we could look up some last names
@@qoph1988 1) small number of reviews are means nothing. maybe people just not want to write reviews about it. afterall no one forces you to review a game. 2) i hope you know that there are lots of people on steam who are adult. And maybe way more adult than people who are under 18.
@@qoph1988 On Twitter people are having a conversation so every interaction is logged while getting a porn game the person interacting is usually not wanting the community at large to see his private degeneracy time on display. Hence a comment requires not just having something to say, but also being comfortable attaching himself to the taboo game. Also if a product is overall forgettable with a few parts you want rather than really good or really bad you're less likely to think enough about it to write a review. How often will a person write a review for a Harlequin romance books for example?
In the US a publisher is liable for the content they post, a distributor isnt. If valve starts moderating their content and acting similar to a news publisher, if they ever miss something it will result in them being liable for any crime/tort that performs. Obviously a distributor can have limitations, but the more they moderate the more risk they are taking on.
Legally speaking there is no such thing as a "publisher". Platforms regurlarly publish content that could open them up to a lawsuit. You're just responsible for the things you actively post liability-wise and have to make a good-faith effort to remove illegal content you might be inadvertently hosting.
@@-imperatorinsomnia-6163 The platform isn't the publisher. The 'publisher' is a company that usually provides the credit line for a game developer while enabling them to access a larger network of sales and marketing. EA, Ubisoft and Epic are good examples of publishers. Steam is the digital equivalent of the brick-and-mortar shop down the corner that sells the game discs, while the publishers are the ones who print and package those game discs.
I can give some insight into this phenomenon, though I don't think I can fully explain why these games are so consistently in the "New and Trending" panel. First off, with possibly the exception of the third game on display, these types of games actually take a lot of time and effort to produce, even with their simplicity and seemingly flipped assets. The reason for the assets all looking similar, it's because most of these 3D scenes and models are part of a product called "HoneySelect" which is essentially the RPG maker of porn games. However, all this product gives you access to is a small set of scenes/models to work with and controls for add/removing clothing and posing said models. Every time a scene in one of these games has an added person/pose you can be sure that it took a while to actually create, especially due to fairly well known lighting issues that plague the platform. The reason all the music sounds so similar to each other is because the creators use royalty free music you can obtain online that won't flag automated DMCA processes. So, while the games appear to be low effort, they actually usually are fairly difficult to produce, especially since most people that get into producing them are not programmers or those knowledgeable about game development. Theory number 3 is probably where the majority of these games come from, but rather than it being a single developer creating all these games, it's just a mass amount of people trying to make it. If you look online for some of the most popular Adult games, you'll find a handful of people making games that earn close to 10K a month through Patreon/Subscibestar and other platforms all for making a game that people have interest in, which seems like a pretty sweet gig. A LOT of people making these games are non-native English speakers, so it's not just people from the States doing this, it's people all around the world, so it's a gigantic pool to draw from and the tools to create the games are ready made even for low skill developers. Of particular note is the second game you showed off which you said seemed to not use 3D models. I don't really want to get into nitty gritty details, but as some one who went to school for game design and development and produced a similar type of game (non-adult), I can tell you that it is a LOT of work and takes quite a bit more effort than you might think. I would recommend anyone who doesn't believe this to try and make a very short visual novel on their own in RenPy to see what kind of effort it takes, especially if you've never touched game development prior. Now, why would people actually pay for and play these games when their writing tends to be poor and their animations are so janky, the answer is multifaceted. First, there is a huge market for smut in any form. There's a reason porn videos have stories in them rather than just having the hanky panky start right away, people like to fantasize and people have specific fetishes that have to do with the lead up rather than the act itself (think Nurses, prisoners, CNC, Incest, etc.) This means that the story and lead up to adult scenes is just as much a part of the game as the adult scenes themselves. Also, while the games you showed off had poor writing, that doesn't mean that all games have poor writing. Now, why is it that there are so many of these games that pop up on steam and why do they seem to sell so many copies? One likely reason is because these games are slowly loosing all alternative revenue streams and Steam allows for free marketing when the developers would otherwise have Zero marketing. Most people who develop adult games like these source their revenue through subscription services (patreon, subscribestart and others) but they have supplemented their income through Itchio. However, it's far easier to find games on steam than itch, especially since steam now wholly embraces adult content. Itch is also no longer allowing for direct payments for adult content and the alternatives like Paypal don't allow for payment of adult content, so the remaining methods of revenue are Steam and recurring patrons. So, there is a massive influx of existing adult games that are making their way onto Steam that in some cases have had years of development and a fairly large fan base, which will then purchase the game when it comes out to support the creator. This leads to a spike in purchases right when the game comes out, but little discussion about it afterwards. This is also because most people discussing it are in private discord channels that the creator built, so all the feedback and discussion is done in a space that you wont see unless you happen to know about the game and look into it. I don't doubt that there are some games that are pure asset flips that assist money laundering, but if you look at real asset flip games, the ones that people buy some assets, through them together and sell it on steam, you'll see that even the worst adult game on the platform has more effort put into it. I can't say I encourage anyone to give these games a try due to there adult nature, but if you want to see the higher quality games that people actually like, look into: Mist, Harem Hotel, Once in a Lifetime, Summertime Saga, Goodbye Eternity. These are game that, if you removed the adult content, could even be considered to be pretty good visual novels on their own. Most of them are not on steam, but if they ever released on steam, they would likely reach New and Trending due to their current following. So, really, the bottom line is that there are way more degenerates buying and playing these games than you could realistically fathom, even with their often times low quality. There are lots of factors that lead to them seemingly being sleeper hits, but everyone has something they like that they don't want people to know about. For some people, that thing is adult games. Edit: TL;DR - porn games have a large market off of steam, so when the release on steam, customers from outside of steam mass buy it when it drops
When Steam started allowing these games on the store, I was genuinely interested in playing some steamy games but I was annoyed at how they all were so vague at what the mature content in the game consisted of. Therefore, a few years ago, I actually bought a bunch of these games intending to do a curator thing to help clarify the extent of "nudity and general sexual content" that these games had. Unfortunately that never ended up taking off but the intention was there.
well with the volume of these games increasing and the quality ranging from shovelware to superb I recommend you give it another go. most of the curated content I see are usually the big games and the rightfully popular indie games
One of the titles, Grape Day (remove the G), was ripped off of the Steam store. Now, idk about you... But allowing games where you can murder, assassinate, torture others... But don't allow suggestive shrexual violence looks kinda bad in my eyes. Why prefer one over the other?
ironically a lot of the games that do have that stuff and are also actually good games still have all the 18+ content removed from the steam release and released as a separate patch on their own website
@@IdOnThAvEaUsE69Don't worry, Steam handles that. For instance, they blocked the Rance titles. They also blocked Maggot Baits, Euphoria and other horribly degenerate titles. Which I've read of course - but they are not for everyone and Steam made sure of that.
@@grimsdungeonofcomics Sure grape isn't for everyone... But what about killing, murdering, assassinating, torturing? It's plastered all over the steam home page. Why is that allowed but even vanilla shrex isn't or even suggestive shrexual violence? Seems very unfair lmao.
Whilst this is probably the most reasonable/plausible conspiracy theory I've heard in a long time, you're missing a very simple answer. People play these games in offline mode. There's also now a new option to hide all activity. (Not the old hide from library option. An actual functional one that prevents the game showing at all.) Also just on the side, the quality bar and overall design competence for these things is very low overall, yeah. Even the ones with more effort, tend to have bad design. Generally not worth looking at anything made by the West.
I think the content moderation policy is fine, there’s no need to censor stuff, it isn’t roblox. What I think is that sexual games shouldn’t be pushed in steams algorithm so you have to go out to your way to find them
@@Phoeboi Storefront > Categories > Themes > Adult Only: that's the cleanest way to find exclusively porn games with the AO tag. i've no idea why they appear in the algorithm but i'm guessing it's because it's genuinely proffitable for Steam, the algorithm is there to make Valve money and will push what it thinks is successful. Sex sells, it's not surprising \o/
he wasn't talking about censorship but quality, you can have as much explicit content as you want but at least it has to be a lil bit good, but yeah it does mean they have to play everything
I like how he's complaining about seeing the "Boobie" games, but then shows his options and he has every single one enabled.... So yeah he's going to see the games. Steam isn't going to keep showing him games he already owns. If he doesn't want to see them, he needs to turn them off.
One thing that's relevant about human behavior is that the expectation of a reward releases feel good hormones, so taking a long ass time to get to the meat might actually be a good thing. It's the same thing that makes us so excited when a game like TotK is coming out.
People have unironically turned to porn games and other such content (hentai, erotica, etc) because the porn industry is straight dogshit. It's pure quantity over quality. They fart out a billion videos a month and they're all completely thoughtless, just glorified sextapes but with better lighting. Sure you can get your rocks off but what's the point. You're not actually enjoying your time watching that shit, and if you've seen some of it, you've seen all of it. After a certain point in your life, you finish your business while watching a video and all you can think is "why am I wasting my time like this", that post-nut clarity hits like a ballistic missile.
@@PurpGhost123 Yeah but man I feel bad for the guys who would actually buy this shit to jack off to, and I say that as someone who buys erotic visual novels. There's a near endless amount of actual good smut games for cheap pretty much everywhere, the only way you'd ever buy one of these is if you're so ashamed of liking boobies that you can't stand to look for smut for more than 30 seconds
When I first saw the title of this video, I was expecting to see you bashing games like "Rance", "Nekopara", "Dohna Dohna", or maybe even something like "Song of Saya" if the channel was insane enough. Cause yeah, despite being rather fun games in their own rights, these all still contain pornographic content, some even specifically focusing on it. Though many have cleaned up versions that moved on to become proper popular franchises, like "Demonbane" or "Utawarerumono". And then I actually watched the video and, oh...right. I guess the nuance I was missing was "low effort, borderline garbage" Boobie Games. I was completely overestimating the quality of the topic on hand.
Those are all good games whether or not you agree with the content in them. I mean Song of Saya is a legit story by the guy that made Madoka and Fate/Zero
Many of these games are released for free before going on steam and have followings in other areas of the internet and specific forums for these kind of games. When these games come out on steam they advertise to these followers and those followers then buy it to support them for a game they previously played for free. These players still have it available elsewhere so they don't need to play it on steam.
A little thing about Steam moderation, there is a giant ring of profiles (some public, some private) that just post not safe for work imagery. They've basically taken over the workshop and artwork pages of wallpaper engine.
It is also worth noting that most porn games, especially VN ones are "play and move on" and relatively short (unless it's a grindfest). You don't replay them every day to watch the same scene, so they will have low playtime by definition. there will be a lot of play time difference between game that takes 3h to complete and you will only play once, and 30h one that you will come back to every so often because it's fun. While there are SOME +18 games that are fun to replay and long without being grindfest, none of the above fall into that category.
3:11 My dog had the same octopus toy when he was a puppy. He carried it everywhere with him until he ripped all of it's limbs off and we had to bin it.
Most of these VN-style games use Ren'Py as the game engine and Daz 3D to generate the images and videos. Then there is all the other assets you need, such as audio, and UI, assuming you wanted something fancy. Since you suggest a game like the two you played can be made in two days you should have no issue doing it yourself in the same amount of time. At least it would be content.
Given the egregious amount and variety of bob games that exist on steam, that whole money laundering thing only feels like 1 reason of many for there being so many of these games on the platform. Like how there's more than 1 'furry sex with Hitler' game
it also doesn't need to be a boobie game so be a money laundering scheme either, a few years back the "Open World Survival Horror RPG" sets of tags were mostly shovelwareand quite a lot of them also had cryptomining software illegally embedded in them
I'm not gonna lie, I am one of the degens who play these kind of games and I wanted to leave a comment on an alt account to explain why. Basically, they are like fan-fictions that I can sate my fet*shes with. (Some background info, I have a fiance and we have a two year old together and she is also 4 months pregnant currently. Yes, she knows I play these games). Alright, so basically, the point made in the video is that people are ashamed and its true. I would not openly admit my fet*sh to people out in public just like how I would not admit I play Boobie Games to people in the public. The best way I can see it is that these visual novels provide an interactive raunchy fan fiction, which excites me. I don't play these games for a quick coom. I play them because they are genuinely fun even with the bad writing. In fact, once in a while there are some gems such as: To Be A King, L*st Academy, City of Broken Dreamers, and Freshwomen for example. Now I will not say those listed games are perfect, but they are fun and more well written than others. Now to the overall, a lot of these gems I listed are h*rem genre. I would say that it sort of excites me, but also, I do not wish for 40 wives in real life. As I love my fiance and having one fiance is already enough trouble but also enough love. These novels dont go too deep in the social aspects, and they dont have to. As they are just for fun raunchy novels basically. - The best way I can think of a sane analogy is that most shooter game fans dont actively want to shoot other people in real life. It is the same for me, I don't actively want 40 wives, I just want to sate my fantasies. I say fantasies because they are just that, I would not want that in real life. Aside from that, there are other fet*shes these games can satisfy and that's why I play them. As my fiance isn't comfortable with them, so I respect her wishes. So maybe once or twice every month, I will boot up one of these games for a 2-4 hour long session and just read. Honestly, its fun and relaxing, and sometimes my fiance will join. Cuz it just reminds her of the badly written, raunchy fan-fictions she used to read on AO3 or Wattpad. To end it off, yeah I know I'm a degen, and honestly I don't care.
So basically romance novels for guys. That explains why most of these are visual novels (that and they're cheap to make). And speaking to fulfilling particular fetishes or interests: There's a reason why artists who do smut commissions make good money, people want to fulfill a certain kind of fantasy. Same with OnlyFans girls, people want THAT particular girl's boobies. Not just any random boobies on Google. Maybe they developed a crush on this particular girl on social media. PlayBoy magazine did it in the old days by bragging they got some celebrities tits in their next issue.
1:15 I play these games. I admit it without fear. Edit: Watched the video and can say I haven't played games like the ones in the video because I know how shit they are. Good "boobie" games are real. Like REAL playable games with the boobie.
Money laundry? let's see the flaws in the theory, you will need several people, on different accounts, from different countries and with different ways of getting money legally to achieve this, yes, we can automate most of the process, but still We have to use an intermediary for this, which ends up reducing profits even further if we consider the 30% that Valve takes, the 5% from the sale of items makes much more sense than games. Most people who buy these games do so when they are at a discount, usually buying several at once and playing just 1 or 2 and forgetting about the rest for a while (pnc?). Another thing to take into account is that most of them are simple games that take a few hours to finish and don't give us any incentive to play them again. I don't know if you remember, but a few years ago, when Steam Greenlight came out, we had a similar problem, several low quality games being launched and many complaining about it, as they were always at the top of sales, as many bought and played for a hour and a half and they returned them, but what was the problem? There was literally a developer that released 10 games a week, all 3 hours long, where we had very similar gameplays where only the skins changed between titles. The first and third theories are correct, but the second doesn't seem viable to me from a logical point of view, 30% is a lot if we consider the other costs and inconveniences.
There's another explanation you didn't cover here: Some of these games are worthwhile and do have dedicated player bases, and the new & trending tab has so many of these because someone wants to 'ride the wave' to rephrase your third point. For example, I've played many RPGs on Steam and have gotten recommended many similar games. Just because I played Crystal Project and Undertale via Steam and they count as RPGs doesn't mean I want more of the similar, even though Steam sometimes thinks so. Extra point: Perhaps mature rated games for violence, sex, language, etc. such as Call of Duty are triggering the similarity. Many non-sex games have risque elements, and that similarity triggers the new & trending. Enjoy!
@@Lotus_Riveraccording to some people who actually download them in the comments a lot of these games can be easily finished quickly leading to a low live playercount. Plus many of them might be quick cash grabs and it might be hard to find the actual good ones
@@Lotus_River You think about it on the wrong direction. A porn game does not need to have quality if it's can serve the purpose it made for. Games like these are usually not something that the player plays for a long time. Also since it's relatively cheap (2-10$) there is not really too much refund for them because it's just a very small amount of money that if you decided to spend then you very likely are not in need for that small pocket change.
With regards pornographic games showing up all the time: there's a lot visual novels/RPGmaker games that show up pretty much regardless of your steam content filtering settings, most of them aren't filtered out unless you're willing to filter out stuff like Cyberpunk 2077, Baldur's Gate 3 and Starfield. Despite it no longer being necessary, these games essentially release in a heavily censored and cut down state to steam with there being an optional patch downloadable (or perhaps in some cases requiring a purchase?) from a third-party website (usually that of the publisher). Kagura games in particular does this with all games they publish, just try filtering sexual content on steam (while retaining the Cyberpunk etc category) and visit the page for kagura games and basically everything will still be there and most of the games don't exactly try to hide what they are, they just don't show uncensored explicit content in the promotional images/videos. I wonder how many impressionable kids have stumbled across games with all kinds of fetish themes on steam because the games dodge the sexual content filters. Then again I don't even know if filtering is on by default and steam doesn't keep track of your age in any way, so anything age restricted can easily be bypassed even if you at some point made the mistake of inputting an age that's less than 18 when prompted.
As an indie game developer who has spent close to 40 years in the industry and has produced a few adult titles as well, I take offense to the idea that these were cobbled together in a couple of days! These took at least a week.😁
Having to launch Daz Studio and build some scenes takes time, no matter how low effort it is, those Adult tiltles are extremely low effort and no I can legitimately say not much people pay attention to them, also the laundering part might be plausible, just that I do think they might be riding on the backs of some amature dev that is just starting to learn about game developing.
I'm not sure how I feel on this take, though the amount of thought and research you put into it is very impressive. The fact is, a lot of erotic games that actually do well DO have some level of gameplay that keeps players from immediate gratification. It's super common, and people seem to at least put up with it, if not enjoy it. So I wouldn't entirely count that as a reason these can't be legitimate (if bad) attempts at catering to a niche. And while the awkward, stiffly posed 3D renders aren't my thing, visual novels have always been the most common venue for this sort of game, just because of ease of access to both players and devs. So, again, it might just be a case of knowing their audience. So really... yeah, it probably is just a case of devs knowing what their audience wants but not bothering to put in the effort to make it shine, in combination with the audience being degenerates, with maybe some other in-depth monetization stuff that @denpoo4561 seems to know more about than I do.
I am a open casual collector and player of these games. The genre of the game is very simple, the center is about sex, obviously. So the hurdles that in the way to make such game is very few, therefore they has a very unstable quality. The hard part is that the quality of these games are very subjective. Especially on these kind of games, it is very dependent on the players kink to decide what is good and bad. I like the steam approach towards contents because it is possible that incompetence is the limitation to the creators idea and suppressing them will discourage improvement and new creators have no chance to have response to improve themselves on. However, it seems to me the games that is in the video is unnaturally expensive and "trending". I think your point of money laundering is a strong point, at least something shady is behind.
No lie, finding good H games is actual WORK. There's so much quick cash grabs out there. I almost wanna fault him for picking 3 trash games, but to someone from the outside trying the H genre for the first time .... I guess i can't blame him, it's so filled with these shovel ware-esque titles. And you make a decent point, even if it has extremely high quality, if it doesn't match your personal tastes, you probably won't like it. I don't think it's money laundering personally: If i had to guess my theory is - Gaming the algorithm to put it on top, key sites buying super cheap titles like these for rando bundles and gacha stuff on their sites, people's natural curiosity getting them to buy it on a whim (only for them to see it's trash and stop playing immediately, and quit, if not outright refund it). Plus other shady stuff on the side, like the actual company itself investing a few dozen or hundred purchases to boost themselves(which would just fit into gaming the algorithm but anyways), and other tactics like it
@@Darkxification He wasn't looking for "quality" games, he was looking at the games that were inexplicably at the top of the trending list. The fact that the three highest-trending adult games are like this is the very point.
my friends and i got a game called "a gay love story about gay love" for like 17 cents and it was so poorly written and janky it was funny, i turned my autoclicker on and got a ending in less than a second
Since you don't dabble in the H game market, you wouldn't know that there's actually REALLY good H games out there. There's an evolution happening right now in the H game scene and developers are coming in that want to actually make a REAL video game that just happens to reward you with T&A If anybody here likes GOOD H games (like the game is actually a game), check out Touhou Kimono Blast. It's a GREAT bullet hell Strip em Up (Think Deep Space Waifu, but with more strategy).
@@55rz55 wow! That's a really great point. Yes, unless a VN whether it's an AVN or just a regular VN has interactivity like multiple choices or some type of gameplay, I would agree that they are two different things.
@@awii.neocities H doom is a mod, not an actual H game. A real H game is one that was intentially made with sex/nudity in it. That's like saying download the sex mods for Skyrim. I'm not saying that's a bad choice, but they're mods.
Yes! Thank you! It's VERY difficult to explain when you boot up Big Screen Mode and this is plastered on your Store page. Found my niece staring at "this" on the Store page, while she was looking to play Disney Infinity. I personally play Far Cry 6, COD and Sons of the Forest, not this stuff and the maturity filtering is hard to get right...
I can see both of the main explanations being true to some extent; people see that there are successful low effort boobie games and try to get rich by doing them, and money launderers can see it as an easy venture, no matter which came first
A theory I have as to why the games are so popular is that websites buy the games to resell the steam keys in packs. I know a few websites where you can buy a pack of random steam keys for games that are generally garbage, and I can imagine there are a lot of these games in those packs.
If you want to play a really fun "boobie" game, I would recommend you Scarlet Maiden. In its essence it's basically just a Dead Cells-like roguelite with LOTS of "boobies", but the game has certain originality. The combat system is great, the story is hilarious and likable, and the pixel art animations are just GORGEOUS.
Something else to note, I imagine most accounts/people that play these games have their accounts privated. And stuff like steam charts using APis likely cannot see any playtime from a private account. I mean it's probably mostly money laundering and quick cash grabs but I'd guess private accounts are another factor.
Most people keep all their sexual activities extremely on the down low, they've spent their whole life being sneaky and silent about it. Multiple that even more when living with parents/children, have religious families/laws, have nosey people spying on them all the time.
I've got an easier, simpler, and better solution: have a separate check box, in account settings, for 'lewd' titles, as a new genre entirely. Unchecked by default. That way no one will see adult material if they don't wish to, however they'll still see the gory non-sexual video games. No overcomplicated methodology, just a check box and genre tag. They could probably implement that in days even when being lazy. Edit: I just checked, and apparently they DO have the option to hide sexual content in Store Preferences. Right on the main page of the Preferences. I unchecked the box and I'm not getting sexual games and all the other ones with adult themes like GTA, Cyberpunk 2077 etc. Y'all complaining over nothing.
Your 2 and 3 theories are not right for the first game at least. Horos and the Last Orgasm I don't know so maybe you're right, but the first game has been in development for 2 years through patreon and porn forums like F95. These visuals novels are typically done by guys creating them out of personal interest. Like, if I want a game where I can build a harem of black BBWs, there's no games out there, but I can make one myself if I just figure out how RenPy works. It's basically a slightly more techy form of fan fiction writing. The guy writing MILFS of Sunville has been working on that game for 2 years as a hobby inbetween work and shit. The only reason it has popped up on Steam is because fans were asking to play it on Steam. Same with A Porn A Time, and many others that you showed in the new & trending list, Horos and TLO are literally the only two I don't recognise.
The real explanation is that these games are mostly one man projects from people that arent´t experienced in making games but need some kind of hook to finance the production. Without the sex no one would care about them.
You should have bought Karyn Prison, it have a very good story, structured and easy to understand mechanic, and I bet it will make you come back to play again (totally not for the boobies).
yeah he picked the bottom of the barrel type of boobie games and is deciding thats how the rest of them are like that, Third Crisis, Zetria, Venture Seas, Subverse, Snow Daze, Ravager, Realms of Bondage, LAdy Killer in a Bind, Custom Order Maid, Breeders of Nephelym, and Corruption of Champions are pretty quality games. there are plenty more too
I'll answer your question, it's easy. Me. I'm the reason there are so many. The number of hentai/ecchi games on steam are a tiny drop in a bucket of what exists. I usually get them from japanese sites that I have to translate, but the indie scene (everywhere english/russian/japanese/korean/ect) is really popping off right now. Steam is only getting a handful of the most popular ones, even though some of the greatest of all time have yet to make it to steam because of "problematic" reasons. edit: after finishing the video I realized you investigated the TRASH hentai games on steam. I think you're 100% correct. You answered my question on why there are so many absolute trash H games on steam. Those aren't legit indie titles like "Cloud Meadow" or "Scarlet Maiden" or any good at all like "Adventures of Micoco" or "Love Esquire"
There MIGHT be a way to game the algorithm that determines how a game ranks. If the ranking is something like sales vs time then if you can artificially boost the sales by a few bots, sockpuppets or gifting and ensure that the game is uploaded and launched in one hit with no previews or prerelease you might be able to get a crazy high ranking for a short time.
Add to that the "get a refund if didn't play over 2h" policy and there's probably A LOT more sales that happened, but got their refunds as well. More people are gonna buy it if they know the game is "virtually free" under the correct conditions. The VN style games usually have an option for "skip unseen text" and button to skip, so it isn't as tedious as it seems to press Skip, let the game run in the background for a few minutes, then look at the gallery for another 10'ish minutes before getting rid of it from the library.
NTL media made treasure of Nadia and genesis order and their both really great. Being a DIK is also a rather decent for a “boonies game” but what’s more impressive about that one was the soundtrack.
ok i'm looking for a straight boob simulation. like two boobs that bounce and squash. like in the belief that boobs reduce stress. i've been looking high and low for games that have actual physic simulations with mass-springs that make a 3d model of a boob bounce around. can't find any. all look super lame. i don't care if the boobs are shiny orange balloons, i want to see a game with bouncing boobs, because i think that's healthy. so i started making one. i hate modern video games with their stupid "realism" and useless movie style "play". really it's like every game since asteroids was made by a retard. there are half a dozen videos explaining XPBD so anyone can program physics. the fact is, people are just too retarded to. i can't find one even half decent bouncing video game boob. (*anime boobs is not boobs, it's decades of psychological abuse)
it is too expensive to money launder with games, steam takes a 30% cut, and then the government takes a cut out of left overs it as well, plus you need to pay some one to build the game... and! pay people to buy the game is crazy! you need to pay 10,000 people to clean 100K$ if the game is 10$. you can also see most of the devs on those games are public with patreon and shit. the explanation is much easier, if you go to sites that have those kind of games for free you will see millions of download - there is just a huge community of p0rn addicted gamers who play any game of this type that comes out.
I would like to shine some light on the only kind of this game that I ever played, that legitimately surprised me with how high quality it was. this game is called "friendship with benefits". obviously the initial reason I got it was because MLP boobs, but I was caught off guard by how good parts of the story were, as well as genuine character development. It also avoids most of the problems mentioned. it's high quality due to being real drawings made by an actual artist, and as mentioned before the story has effort put into it. not to mention there's actually some references to other games, like doom ("rip and tear" is said about 3 times), and tf2 ("there's more", "no!"). it also doesn't waste any time showing you pony boobs either, you see them only like 2 minutes into playing it.
I tend to buy these sorts of games on sale or in bundles. I play them, but not as many as I buy. They aren't "good" per se, but I like that they have unusual features. For instance, there's several of these games where you can move arrows around a board in some weird way. It's stupid, but it's entertaining briefly. Even if they are made by money launderers, I appreciate that some of these games exist. It may seem like there's too many of them, but some of them are tailored towards specific fetishes. Obviously, games with rarer fetishes will have fewer customers, but the people who do buy them will want exactly those games.
There are definitely good adult games out there and I think thats worth calling out because we already have such a stigma about sex in games... which is kinda wild, right? You literally showed 3 video game characters get brutally murdered but you'd get demonetised if you showed a female nipple. The normalisation of violence juxtaposed with the demonisation of sex is quite something to behold (and I'm not saying your video is doing anything wrong, just that it highlights the hypocrisy in our society by proxy of RUclipss rules)
About the quality control thing I don't think that would be a good option because there might actually be quite some "bad" games that were made seriously
so if you DON'T want the "booby games", then why would you leave "Frequent Nudity or Sexual Content" CHECKED in your Preferences? it seems like you are shooting yourself in the foot and then complaining that your feet hurt...
CGI erotic games are usually the worst. Fr that money laundring theory feels true... However there are some hidden gems amongst the 2D when it comes to boobie games. Some of them are pretty/funny/have actual gameplay/animations (like Huniepop). Also Reggie is the best. Pls review more porn games so we can see more of Reggie again!
people love to say laundering money but in truth there way simpler way to launder money than lose around 15% in tax and 30% steam commission most of these game are cheap game made for coomer that will pay it and regret it or play it once stolen asset made into a game in less than a day sold for 5$ still endup making a few thousand sell
It would not work because all the sales would be tracked through the steam store. And the games are way too cheap for any real money laundering. 😂 Money laundering through a 6 dollar game you would need 10 payment accounts for 60 dollar And 100 payment accounts for 600. Your better off saying you found the money at that point 😂 At any larger scale the thieves would have to own a bank to create that many credible account's as every payment would be tracked by steam.
Seeing that scene and that actress playing that role and it being summer, almost makes me want to rewatch the show again when I already did like 2-3 years ago.
Y’know, I have this exact thought every time I open up steam. Those mostly realistic hentai games with decent reviews. The Japanese ones are even more insane, and the only reason I never played out of curiosity is because they are always too expensive to justify the purchase 😅
Reggie is an absolute hero for putting himself on the line to protect this video! Respect
He has earnt several veteran badges of bravery, skill and courage.
The first rat to the moon
reggie its a gigachad
more like a villian for obstructing the view
i didn't watch the video until the reggie cat censoring part and i thought everyone was talking about reggie the rat nsfw games
Reggie is so god damn cool...
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He's exceptionally handsome
My sister pronounce you as fok yo
And a chonk
foe sho
Before I get distracted, I'd like to point out that in the book world, romance makes by far the most money, potentially around twice as much as the next highest. Yet, with a rare few exceptions, how often do you hear people talking about romance books? I suspect it is more or less the same for these sorts of games.
alot of women read them and even talk about reading them its not that uncommon
A friend recommended a game to me called FlipWitch. It is an adult Metroidvania game that is actually really good. People talk about the games that are actually good.
You don't hear about romance novels if you're not looking for it sure, but you can find quite some content if you're looking. You can't find any significant discussion about these games even if you want to.
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Actually, I can, I just need to look at the right places.
I guess we found the female gamers den!
One thing you might not have factored in is that a lot of these games are very short. A bunch of people buy a game that costs $5 on sale, or whatever, and only takes 30 mins to a few hours to finish (or lose interest in). So if you look at the current players charts no-one's playing it because everyone who bought it has already finished it.
Also Steam gives you an option to hide what game you're currently playing (presumably because this sort of game exists :P) which may or may not get included in the 'current player' stats.
There is also another kind of "finishing" that people are much quicker at getting to, then the game has served it's purpose.
exactly,lol!
@@cattysplat
You can "hide" a game but that just removes it from your game list. If you play it, assuming your profile isn't completely private, people will see it on your recently played list. There was a rumour they were going to let you make certain (i.e. "certain") game private so you could play them and no-one would know but nothing has "come" of it.
@@AntonGullyWow, that seems like a pretty major oversight. Thanks for letting us know.
5 dollars for shit like this is insanely expensive. You can get AAA games for around that price after some years on sale. Witcher 3 with all DLC has cost me just 8 dollars on Steam.
I think the reason that steam charts are low is because you can set your status to "Invisible" on steam so nobody sees what your playing, including SteamDB/Steam Charts. There could be way more players but people are too embarrassed to show on their profile that they are currently playing a booby game.
There are some really good ones, but my steam account has well a lot of my friends and some family. I'm hiding that stuff from them, and under no circumstances am I going to review it, they could see that. I have to hide my shame.
@@PurpGhost123Shame is something that will stay with you for as long as you continue to play that shit. It is identical to porn addiction man, and that is extremely damaging, and that's coming from someone who struggled heavily with it in the past. I hope you can brake the habit of impulsively buying these cheap 5 dollar games.
@@PurpGhost123 listen to thememingoflife, you are defiling yourself
I can honestly admit that that's what I do. As I will also admit that I have bought a few of the 'higher quality' ones; One's that had a good story, or some good gameplay, or whatever. But I have never played a single one of them without being set on the 'Invisible status'.
@@PurpGhost123 You know that no matter what you do if they view your profile they can see it in your recent games list or just your games list (i know cause i tested it myself)
A lot of these games have patreon pages, discord servers and communities in general. I find it unlikely that most of the popular ones are somehow a secret criminal enterprise, personally. Might explain some of the atrociously bad ones though.
thats not that hard to maintain.
Right. It’s 1000% money laundering. The patreon and discord make it even harder to identify which games could be for money laundering.
I still have the impression that a lot of these 'games' are cookie-cutter copies of each other which are automatically generated for a simple cash grab. This is easiest to see with those 'visual novel' type of games as they all follow the exact same pattern, it's just the images that are replaced.
Even if it's not criminal, it's often garbage quality and probably done to sell as much copies as possible on the first day of release, never to be seen again.
Why can't you people stick to the simplest answers like "atrociously bad ones were made for 5 minutes and are meant to played for 5 minutes"? Why do people always need to find some controversy and shade and go witch hunt? :D
@@rekarpnevik If you are going to money launder, patreon is the worst platform to do that as every single transaction has two way paper trails.
Reggie is very cute and a chonk
Indeed, he is quite the chonk
Exquisitely
We love reggie
reggie gonna die prematurely
@@pogobod2128 shhhhhhhhh
I love how Htwo can be dedicated enough to get porn addiction just for us, the grind man.
He's a Rain World player.
The most masochistically dedicated subspecies of humans.
Nah, he had it before, just wanted to monetize
@@YetAnotherInv im not a masochist
@@crimesteryeah yeah, sure you arent bud
haha
grind
It's me. It's my fault.
Damn, boobs or ass?
Y O U.
Like begger alert ⚠️
THIS GUY
Another thing to note is that a lot of these "boobie games" started on Patreon where people have, in some cases, been following their progress for ages.
There may not be reviews on Steam because all of the discussion is on either patreon or discord.
I remember a decade and a half ago these would had been flash games that leaked out to flash archive sites. No one really paid for them back then either. First they moved to the mobile market, then steam once they realized they were just as badly vetted.
@@freelancerthe2561 Mobile? I assume you mean to android? or did some actually manage to slip past the iPhone app store censors?
@@TheKeller101 sorry it was a half thought that got some wires crossed. I mainly meant trash apps being posted up because there was little to no quality control happening.
Personally, patreon seems like the more likely money laundering scheme to me. If you have a low effort game that took 5 years to make that's 5 years you can launder money with it. And then you release it on steam and give the patrons a steam key and you're done. Move on to the next grift.
@@TheKeller101 both Apple and Google moderate their app store, but iphones generally can't download third party apps by default unlike Android. thus it isn't a lack of vetting on the store but people downloading the apps from third party places that have no vetting.
In the past 2 years specifically, Steam has really started to allow more porn to be uploaded to it, as long as you label it as such.
I remember _the second_ that they allowed porn mods to be uploaded to the Workshop, Left 4 Dead 2's page was flooded with a billion naked Zoey mods. It was hilarious and baffling to see all the horny people come out of the woodwork. This is truly the most Valve Playerbase thing of all time
Yeah taking Skyrim or fallout 4 as an exemple the number of pornographic mods are weirdly high for something that as nothing to do with it. I truly believe that there is a pretty large amount of people that are into those sort of game, otherwise nude/porn mods wouldnt be so ‘’popular’’, but due to the taboo nature of it its also very plausible that there isn’t a vocal minority to criticize the game, leading to a pretty high number of shitty game being released to try and grab as much bucks as possible before being forgotten a week later.
@@azzarnthelizard I think with Skyrim and Fallout 4 is this "You see I'm playing these classic games, but what you don't know is I've completely overhauled them with boobie mods" It's kind of an open secret to some. I have a few decent quality to surprisingly good boobie games in my steam library
I mean, we hold entire parades for the LGBTQ folks and no one bats an eye. Meanwhile, we put boobs in a video game and all of a sudden everyone discovers their evolved sense of modesty and it's all "impure" and "degenerate".
Just remember, you and I are here only because our fathers were horny. It's a time-honored tradition for men to covet boobs. If you go through the 7 degrees of Kevin Bacon, you'd realize that youtube is only here because the parents of the people who created the internet watched Footloose with their girlfriends and through the power of Bacon, they shunned religion and John Lithgow and here we are!
meh i remember downloading porn mods for doom back in the 486 era from aol
@@justbob333 8 bit boobs are better than no boobs.
One aspect of the money laundering that you didn't touch up on: The true genius of making the porn games is not only the best amount of plausible deniability, but also the fact that porn games will actually make a number of honest sales, too.
You could make any kind of crap shovelware to use for money laundering, but most games made in one week just aren't going to attract any attention (which also makes your game look suspicious) but the porn games will actually get some attention and sales from the curious, especially when they start popping up on the trending pages. Those stats you showed are from real players.
Try to get that many bonus sales from some shovelware puzzle gem thing.
Just advertise to the elderly. It's a surefire way to get any puzzle game downloaded.
Big win when the bonus sales offset the laundering cost. That's how the smart guys get out.
That raises another point - if it's just for laundering, it doesn't matter what the content is
It's definitely not money laundering. If you wanted to launder money you can just send someone monero or mail physical gold.
Reginald is the best kind of censorship to ever exist in the history of censorship. He's cute, he makes naughty things look better, and he's Reggie. What else could you possibly want?
I would rather look at 15 minutes of Reggie than 15 minutes of... I would rather blow my brain out of my cranium with a revolver than say the word honestly. Especially if Reggie could censor it.
Jsab pfp?
@@MarshyMellow1223 it kinda stuck with me
Nice pfp
true dat
I looked on SteamDB for some stats, and Milfs of Sunville had 263 players in game at the time, with a 835 concurrent player peak. Which is definitely not AAA levels, but it's enough to make a small studio thrive by having a quick turnaround on games (which is why it feels like the home page is flooded. You need to make multiple horny games quickly to make a decent living making them)
If the game is 10 bucks that's like 6-8k or something lmao.
@@aarepelaa1142 Don't forget that concurrent player only counts the amount of players who played it at the exact same time. The game has 1347 reviews on steam now, so the actual amount of people who bought it is probably much higher
Ive played the game and I can tell you that there are places people download these games for free and the devs often get donations from people.
take into account many of these games have patreons were even trash games can make over 500$ a month, some of the bigger games make well over 10,000$ a month (even this is low balling it)
@@thesilverblueman summertime saga is making more than 70,000$/month
Bro the conspiracy is that all your friends are playing those games and that is why steam is pushing them on you so hard.
lol, this.
My friend has a hobby of collecting these... things.. But not for playing. He just buys.. every single sex game he comes across on the platform. I once saw his folder of... uhh yeah.. stuff. Thats literally a professional collection of horniness. And thanks to the Family Sharing feature of steam, I see all kinds, races, types, *ages* , genres and breeds of stuff... And uhh yeah turns out these give shit ton of steam xp and achievements.
very large price to pay for xp and achievements
...ages? The fuck
@@fatyoshi1456 for a man with no dignity, the price is low
I'm not sure what to think of this
play games because it's a game? ❌️
play games because easy xp? ✅️
holy based
My first thoughts were "well yeah, they get to the front page because all the horny people who play them" don't underestimate the horny gamers.
This is the reason, I dont talk about my addiction
@@acakeshapedlikeatrainonatable you just talked about it
It's exactly that.
I also suspect that a lot of younger "gamers" buy these games because they don't yet know how easy it is to find adult content online. Or they think it's easier to hide it from their parents by buying on Steam or something. Young people are pretty dumb.
@@SurmenianSoldier He mentioned it, but he thankfully didn't talk about it.
It's worth noting that a lot of the complaints about the visual novel style can apply to most traditional visual novels; porn and not.
I think a less cynical reason for it is that, as you said, they are relatively easy to make and program, can function as a side project that they can sell and sex tends to sell.
You don't even need to make the engine itself, RenPy and RPGmakers do exist. And with the rise of AI generated text and pictures, you barely even need to kow anything past beginner level use of the program to put those text and images in.
It's even easier than making those weird 3D asset-flip games.
"Jesse, we must make boobie games on steam to launder our money"
*LATER*
"god Damit Jesse put your pants up and stop playing that game. WE HAVE TO COOK!!"
@@danielnidhiry5796 We cook the product, we don't use it.
Imagine 10 years from now a super popular indie game is going to release made by one guy, and in an interview they ask them what got them into game development.
"Well, funny story..."
💀
There are actually quite some...certain games with way better story than AAA titles. And I mean WAY better in a nonsexual way.
And yes, I get it. 💀on me.
@@lightborn9071
💀(Here have a cookie 🍪 )
many actors and artists start in porn too, it's easier to make money at a lower skill level in that area so it allows you to support yourself through your training without needing rich parents.
@@lightborn9071 Neon White be like
imagine having Boobie Games on your tax return as a business expense 🤣
That's pretty tame compared to shit tax accountants see on regular basis
ill do it.
I feel like number 3 is the most likely
Its important to note, its NEW and trending, not just trending, often times youll see that these games came out the exact day you find them, they are being pumpped out so fast and often that even if they get no sales they still satisfy the requirement of being new
Even if it is money laundering Valve has no real incentive to fix it. They still get a 30% cut, and it looks legit enough that they have plausible deniability if it ever got bad enough to go to court.
reminds me of when "Open world Survival RPG" games were mostly shovelware that were forever in early access with the sole purpose of easy money
There is a legal incentive. They have to try and prevent money laundering, they can't just allow it to happen. And morally, these people laundering could be human or drug traffickers and nobody wants to have them around.
Even if these don`t sell. Valve gets 100 bucks for every upload.
@@JahnDoh-dp4fi What do you mean "they know"? It's all speculation, there is no hard proof.
@@JahnDoh-dp4fi Conspiracy Theory here: Perhaps it only looks like they aren't doing anything, but in reality they are tracking it all at the Feds request. And they have a deal with the Feds to leave stuff like that up so the Feds can do research on those methods and how to prevent them. Like those old Pedo sites that the Feds would discover then secretly take over.
4:49 You know, a VN I played recently took me over 25 hours to reach the first R18 scene. I had already forgotten it was an eroge at that point and what kept me going was the legit good story and characters lol.
Like... a japanese VN? Because yeah, they do that. In general some of the eroges are just romance games with porn
@Mika-ph6ku Sounds interesting, thanks for the recommendation!
That's how adult games should be made. Make it a decent game first, and then add in some spice. Something like "Treasure Of Nadia" is a good point-and-click adventure in its own right, and it would be just as good if you leave the sex scenes out.
@@Stoney3K The problem is AVN players have no idea what they want. Devs who do that get tons of 1 star ratings for not enough lewds. Then Devs that make lewd focused games get 1 star for not enough story. lol. For some reason AVN specifically seems to attract people who think every game needs to be catered to their preference without thinking about what kind of game it is or the fact that there are literally hundreds of thousands of other games that could suit their tastes instead.
I think he's just talking about the low effort stuff and shows on new and trending. Some Japanese smut games are really good, but even those don't hit new and trending.
Sex with Hitler is a timeless classic
It was so good, it traumatized Dani
I'll raise you one. Furry Hitler. It is exactly as bad as it sounds, and worse. (I would pay AAA prices to remove it from my profile)
It's weird that somebody having "put in a lot of research" knows so little about them.
There are huge communities for them, some of them are extremely popular.
They are all mostly made in 3 engines, unity, rpg maker and ren'py. The last one being specifically made for visual novels. The barrier to entry as a dev for these games is very low.
Despite that, it takes months if not a couple of years to make them as they are usually done by one person.
Most of those devs have patreon pages where you can follow the progress being made.
Many of them do seem to be fairly low quality, but consider that you need to make thousands of, or even more, images for the game just for conversations to match and look fairly natural. And that's not even taking the spicy scenes into account.
The reason why there are so many of them is because most are made for a few specific kinks in mind which then dont appeal much to people with other kinks. So there has to be a lot of variety.
Felt the same honestly
Yeah, this is avery surface level look at these kind of games
The problem is that these are one of those things where the game looks easy to put together until you actually do it. The time investment is crazy high even for a short game. Anyone who participates in Itch game jam can attest to that. A simple game can use up the entire allocated time given.
The real trick to finding the proper games of this category is finding any game that was originally japanese and boom, you have a game with actual mechanics, actual story, actual work put into it AND a bunch of plot...... like 50% of the time
As a coomer, I heavily agree
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I wonder why is that? I think people have way low standard when it comes to porn games. obviously there some good games like huniepop.
@@n0yesn0yesn0 Just like why you see the animation world is dominated by japanese studio, the game industry is actually pretty serious in japan. You have all niches category that cater to a lot of genre and demographic that japan studio produce from normal, cute and degenerate content category, they have it all, and its a serious industry, where its actual company we talk about. The rest of the world is left with crowd funding for the indie dev to make a living and these devs usually start with only one person team.
@@n0yesn0yesn0 Because the two biggest videogame industries are in america and japan, and america can be weirdly puritanical at times.
In my experience... I bought a LOT of those games, but never played them. Seems like in some countries like Argentina (is were I live) prices are so wrong that you can literally buy the game for lets say... $7.00 pesos, when is on discount, and the game has trading cards selling on the Steam Community Market for like $5.00 pesos, just by buying the game, and farming them with an app, you gain free money, it's really funny. But the money laundering theory might be the most likely one
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@@geckopecko en efecto
Selling upmarked booby cards to horny people by farming out time spent AFK inside cheap booby games is an economy I did not know about.
The irony of this video being the one I see from the algorithm to discover your channel.
You know what they say: "If you have an outlet that allows adult content people will flock to it because not many places allow that kind of stuff. Like reddit and twitter are borderline porn websites because 50% of people on there are making adult content."
Tumblr banning porn, resulting in the horny userbase spreading across the mainstream internet completely changing it was the greatest evidence of this.
Yeah, there is not really too much thing on twitter to do. Maybe following some game's or company's account to see news about them, or reading stupid internet drama (which happens daily on twitter), or be part of the mob that makes the drama, and of course the lot of adult content.
Yeah but those actually have people interacting with them, like he said these games usually have 5-11 reviews and nobody is taking the bait, yet they are listed among games selling in the millions. I wonder who could be behind pushing porn on kids like this huh weird maybe we could look up some last names
@@qoph1988 1) small number of reviews are means nothing. maybe people just not want to write reviews about it. afterall no one forces you to review a game.
2) i hope you know that there are lots of people on steam who are adult. And maybe way more adult than people who are under 18.
@@qoph1988 On Twitter people are having a conversation so every interaction is logged while getting a porn game the person interacting is usually not wanting the community at large to see his private degeneracy time on display. Hence a comment requires not just having something to say, but also being comfortable attaching himself to the taboo game. Also if a product is overall forgettable with a few parts you want rather than really good or really bad you're less likely to think enough about it to write a review. How often will a person write a review for a Harlequin romance books for example?
In the US a publisher is liable for the content they post, a distributor isnt. If valve starts moderating their content and acting similar to a news publisher, if they ever miss something it will result in them being liable for any crime/tort that performs. Obviously a distributor can have limitations, but the more they moderate the more risk they are taking on.
Legally speaking there is no such thing as a "publisher". Platforms regurlarly publish content that could open them up to a lawsuit. You're just responsible for the things you actively post liability-wise and have to make a good-faith effort to remove illegal content you might be inadvertently hosting.
@@-imperatorinsomnia-6163 The platform isn't the publisher. The 'publisher' is a company that usually provides the credit line for a game developer while enabling them to access a larger network of sales and marketing. EA, Ubisoft and Epic are good examples of publishers.
Steam is the digital equivalent of the brick-and-mortar shop down the corner that sells the game discs, while the publishers are the ones who print and package those game discs.
*The real problem is that you have to explain to ANYONE where you got your money at all.*
I can give some insight into this phenomenon, though I don't think I can fully explain why these games are so consistently in the "New and Trending" panel.
First off, with possibly the exception of the third game on display, these types of games actually take a lot of time and effort to produce, even with their simplicity and seemingly flipped assets. The reason for the assets all looking similar, it's because most of these 3D scenes and models are part of a product called "HoneySelect" which is essentially the RPG maker of porn games. However, all this product gives you access to is a small set of scenes/models to work with and controls for add/removing clothing and posing said models. Every time a scene in one of these games has an added person/pose you can be sure that it took a while to actually create, especially due to fairly well known lighting issues that plague the platform. The reason all the music sounds so similar to each other is because the creators use royalty free music you can obtain online that won't flag automated DMCA processes. So, while the games appear to be low effort, they actually usually are fairly difficult to produce, especially since most people that get into producing them are not programmers or those knowledgeable about game development. Theory number 3 is probably where the majority of these games come from, but rather than it being a single developer creating all these games, it's just a mass amount of people trying to make it. If you look online for some of the most popular Adult games, you'll find a handful of people making games that earn close to 10K a month through Patreon/Subscibestar and other platforms all for making a game that people have interest in, which seems like a pretty sweet gig. A LOT of people making these games are non-native English speakers, so it's not just people from the States doing this, it's people all around the world, so it's a gigantic pool to draw from and the tools to create the games are ready made even for low skill developers.
Of particular note is the second game you showed off which you said seemed to not use 3D models. I don't really want to get into nitty gritty details, but as some one who went to school for game design and development and produced a similar type of game (non-adult), I can tell you that it is a LOT of work and takes quite a bit more effort than you might think. I would recommend anyone who doesn't believe this to try and make a very short visual novel on their own in RenPy to see what kind of effort it takes, especially if you've never touched game development prior.
Now, why would people actually pay for and play these games when their writing tends to be poor and their animations are so janky, the answer is multifaceted. First, there is a huge market for smut in any form. There's a reason porn videos have stories in them rather than just having the hanky panky start right away, people like to fantasize and people have specific fetishes that have to do with the lead up rather than the act itself (think Nurses, prisoners, CNC, Incest, etc.) This means that the story and lead up to adult scenes is just as much a part of the game as the adult scenes themselves. Also, while the games you showed off had poor writing, that doesn't mean that all games have poor writing.
Now, why is it that there are so many of these games that pop up on steam and why do they seem to sell so many copies? One likely reason is because these games are slowly loosing all alternative revenue streams and Steam allows for free marketing when the developers would otherwise have Zero marketing. Most people who develop adult games like these source their revenue through subscription services (patreon, subscribestart and others) but they have supplemented their income through Itchio. However, it's far easier to find games on steam than itch, especially since steam now wholly embraces adult content. Itch is also no longer allowing for direct payments for adult content and the alternatives like Paypal don't allow for payment of adult content, so the remaining methods of revenue are Steam and recurring patrons. So, there is a massive influx of existing adult games that are making their way onto Steam that in some cases have had years of development and a fairly large fan base, which will then purchase the game when it comes out to support the creator. This leads to a spike in purchases right when the game comes out, but little discussion about it afterwards. This is also because most people discussing it are in private discord channels that the creator built, so all the feedback and discussion is done in a space that you wont see unless you happen to know about the game and look into it.
I don't doubt that there are some games that are pure asset flips that assist money laundering, but if you look at real asset flip games, the ones that people buy some assets, through them together and sell it on steam, you'll see that even the worst adult game on the platform has more effort put into it.
I can't say I encourage anyone to give these games a try due to there adult nature, but if you want to see the higher quality games that people actually like, look into: Mist, Harem Hotel, Once in a Lifetime, Summertime Saga, Goodbye Eternity. These are game that, if you removed the adult content, could even be considered to be pretty good visual novels on their own. Most of them are not on steam, but if they ever released on steam, they would likely reach New and Trending due to their current following.
So, really, the bottom line is that there are way more degenerates buying and playing these games than you could realistically fathom, even with their often times low quality. There are lots of factors that lead to them seemingly being sleeper hits, but everyone has something they like that they don't want people to know about. For some people, that thing is adult games.
Edit: TL;DR - porn games have a large market off of steam, so when the release on steam, customers from outside of steam mass buy it when it drops
bro wrote a novel
Can I get a tldr?
Maybe some of these games should hire you as a writer
this is a very nice writeup ! it's accurate ime
@@monsterkiller2763 added to original comment at bottom
When Steam started allowing these games on the store, I was genuinely interested in playing some steamy games but I was annoyed at how they all were so vague at what the mature content in the game consisted of. Therefore, a few years ago, I actually bought a bunch of these games intending to do a curator thing to help clarify the extent of "nudity and general sexual content" that these games had. Unfortunately that never ended up taking off but the intention was there.
well with the volume of these games increasing and the quality ranging from shovelware to superb I recommend you give it another go. most of the curated content I see are usually the big games and the rightfully popular indie games
One of the titles, Grape Day (remove the G), was ripped off of the Steam store. Now, idk about you... But allowing games where you can murder, assassinate, torture others... But don't allow suggestive shrexual violence looks kinda bad in my eyes. Why prefer one over the other?
ironically a lot of the games that do have that stuff and are also actually good games still have all the 18+ content removed from the steam release and released as a separate patch on their own website
@@IdOnThAvEaUsE69Don't worry, Steam handles that. For instance, they blocked the Rance titles. They also blocked Maggot Baits, Euphoria and other horribly degenerate titles. Which I've read of course - but they are not for everyone and Steam made sure of that.
@@grimsdungeonofcomics Sure grape isn't for everyone... But what about killing, murdering, assassinating, torturing? It's plastered all over the steam home page. Why is that allowed but even vanilla shrex isn't or even suggestive shrexual violence? Seems very unfair lmao.
Whilst this is probably the most reasonable/plausible conspiracy theory I've heard in a long time, you're missing a very simple answer. People play these games in offline mode. There's also now a new option to hide all activity. (Not the old hide from library option. An actual functional one that prevents the game showing at all.)
Also just on the side, the quality bar and overall design competence for these things is very low overall, yeah. Even the ones with more effort, tend to have bad design. Generally not worth looking at anything made by the West.
I think the content moderation policy is fine, there’s no need to censor stuff, it isn’t roblox. What I think is that sexual games shouldn’t be pushed in steams algorithm so you have to go out to your way to find them
agreed
@@Phoeboi Storefront > Categories > Themes > Adult Only: that's the cleanest way to find exclusively porn games with the AO tag. i've no idea why they appear in the algorithm but i'm guessing it's because it's genuinely proffitable for Steam, the algorithm is there to make Valve money and will push what it thinks is successful.
Sex sells, it's not surprising \o/
he wasn't talking about censorship but quality, you can have as much explicit content as you want but at least it has to be a lil bit good, but yeah it does mean they have to play everything
I like how he's complaining about seeing the "Boobie" games, but then shows his options and he has every single one enabled.... So yeah he's going to see the games. Steam isn't going to keep showing him games he already owns. If he doesn't want to see them, he needs to turn them off.
@@GlidingBoulder Good to know.
One thing that's relevant about human behavior is that the expectation of a reward releases feel good hormones, so taking a long ass time to get to the meat might actually be a good thing.
It's the same thing that makes us so excited when a game like TotK is coming out.
Also you don't get a game if all you want is booba, that is just a google search away. You do it for the story and the build up.
@@PurpGhost123 pretty much this. Some people want porn with some kind of gameplay and story.
People have unironically turned to porn games and other such content (hentai, erotica, etc) because the porn industry is straight dogshit. It's pure quantity over quality. They fart out a billion videos a month and they're all completely thoughtless, just glorified sextapes but with better lighting. Sure you can get your rocks off but what's the point. You're not actually enjoying your time watching that shit, and if you've seen some of it, you've seen all of it. After a certain point in your life, you finish your business while watching a video and all you can think is "why am I wasting my time like this", that post-nut clarity hits like a ballistic missile.
@@PurpGhost123 Yeah but man I feel bad for the guys who would actually buy this shit to jack off to, and I say that as someone who buys erotic visual novels. There's a near endless amount of actual good smut games for cheap pretty much everywhere, the only way you'd ever buy one of these is if you're so ashamed of liking boobies that you can't stand to look for smut for more than 30 seconds
It's literally it's own genre of games. Just because people don't want it to be doesn't change reality.
When I first saw the title of this video, I was expecting to see you bashing games like "Rance", "Nekopara", "Dohna Dohna", or maybe even something like "Song of Saya" if the channel was insane enough. Cause yeah, despite being rather fun games in their own rights, these all still contain pornographic content, some even specifically focusing on it. Though many have cleaned up versions that moved on to become proper popular franchises, like "Demonbane" or "Utawarerumono".
And then I actually watched the video and, oh...right. I guess the nuance I was missing was "low effort, borderline garbage" Boobie Games. I was completely overestimating the quality of the topic on hand.
Those are all good games whether or not you agree with the content in them. I mean Song of Saya is a legit story by the guy that made Madoka and Fate/Zero
Many of these games are released for free before going on steam and have followings in other areas of the internet and specific forums for these kind of games. When these games come out on steam they advertise to these followers and those followers then buy it to support them for a game they previously played for free. These players still have it available elsewhere so they don't need to play it on steam.
Shows what kind of loyalty some people have.
A little thing about Steam moderation, there is a giant ring of profiles (some public, some private) that just post not safe for work imagery.
They've basically taken over the workshop and artwork pages of wallpaper engine.
iv seen someones pfp have osama binladen in it and osama bin laden as their pf name
I use wallpaper engine and was annoyed by the amount of cute anime girls and hentai, but at least I can filter and ignore all that shit.
Iirc the wallpaper engine thing is one of the only ways people in china can see that stuff due to censorship
"Why does Steam have so many boobie games?"
Why the fuck not? Go sign up for Nintendo or something!
guess what the switch eshop is flooded with
It is also worth noting that most porn games, especially VN ones are "play and move on" and relatively short (unless it's a grindfest). You don't replay them every day to watch the same scene, so they will have low playtime by definition. there will be a lot of play time difference between game that takes 3h to complete and you will only play once, and 30h one that you will come back to every so often because it's fun. While there are SOME +18 games that are fun to replay and long without being grindfest, none of the above fall into that category.
Many also "finish" themselves and move on.
3:11 My dog had the same octopus toy when he was a puppy. He carried it everywhere with him until he ripped all of it's limbs off and we had to bin it.
Most of these VN-style games use Ren'Py as the game engine and Daz 3D to generate the images and videos. Then there is all the other assets you need, such as audio, and UI, assuming you wanted something fancy. Since you suggest a game like the two you played can be made in two days you should have no issue doing it yourself in the same amount of time. At least it would be content.
Given the egregious amount and variety of bob games that exist on steam, that whole money laundering thing only feels like 1 reason of many for there being so many of these games on the platform.
Like how there's more than 1 'furry sex with Hitler' game
it also doesn't need to be a boobie game so be a money laundering scheme either, a few years back the "Open World Survival Horror RPG" sets of tags were mostly shovelwareand quite a lot of them also had cryptomining software illegally embedded in them
Reggie needs a raise for how much he had to save this video from demonitization
I'm not gonna lie, I am one of the degens who play these kind of games and I wanted to leave a comment on an alt account to explain why. Basically, they are like fan-fictions that I can sate my fet*shes with. (Some background info, I have a fiance and we have a two year old together and she is also 4 months pregnant currently. Yes, she knows I play these games).
Alright, so basically, the point made in the video is that people are ashamed and its true. I would not openly admit my fet*sh to people out in public just like how I would not admit I play Boobie Games to people in the public. The best way I can see it is that these visual novels provide an interactive raunchy fan fiction, which excites me. I don't play these games for a quick coom. I play them because they are genuinely fun even with the bad writing. In fact, once in a while there are some gems such as: To Be A King, L*st Academy, City of Broken Dreamers, and Freshwomen for example. Now I will not say those listed games are perfect, but they are fun and more well written than others.
Now to the overall, a lot of these gems I listed are h*rem genre. I would say that it sort of excites me, but also, I do not wish for 40 wives in real life. As I love my fiance and having one fiance is already enough trouble but also enough love. These novels dont go too deep in the social aspects, and they dont have to. As they are just for fun raunchy novels basically.
- The best way I can think of a sane analogy is that most shooter game fans dont actively want to shoot other people in real life. It is the same for me, I don't actively want 40 wives, I just want to sate my fantasies. I say fantasies because they are just that, I would not want that in real life.
Aside from that, there are other fet*shes these games can satisfy and that's why I play them. As my fiance isn't comfortable with them, so I respect her wishes. So maybe once or twice every month, I will boot up one of these games for a 2-4 hour long session and just read. Honestly, its fun and relaxing, and sometimes my fiance will join. Cuz it just reminds her of the badly written, raunchy fan-fictions she used to read on AO3 or Wattpad. To end it off, yeah I know I'm a degen, and honestly I don't care.
So basically romance novels for guys. That explains why most of these are visual novels (that and they're cheap to make).
And speaking to fulfilling particular fetishes or interests: There's a reason why artists who do smut commissions make good money, people want to fulfill a certain kind of fantasy. Same with OnlyFans girls, people want THAT particular girl's boobies. Not just any random boobies on Google. Maybe they developed a crush on this particular girl on social media. PlayBoy magazine did it in the old days by bragging they got some celebrities tits in their next issue.
Thank you Reggie for your kind work, I hope you get a good paycheck
1:15 I play these games. I admit it without fear.
Edit: Watched the video and can say I haven't played games like the ones in the video because I know how shit they are. Good "boobie" games are real. Like REAL playable games with the boobie.
Once a porn a time is actually a good game, it's just more of a Management game.
There are others I can think of, some of which have still imagery.
@@drepruitt6780like huniepop
@@Ayanelixer8518 I haven't played it, actually. At least not to completion
@@Ayanelixer8518 but I think so, yeah
Money laundry? let's see the flaws in the theory, you will need several people, on different accounts, from different countries and with different ways of getting money legally to achieve this, yes, we can automate most of the process, but still We have to use an intermediary for this, which ends up reducing profits even further if we consider the 30% that Valve takes, the 5% from the sale of items makes much more sense than games.
Most people who buy these games do so when they are at a discount, usually buying several at once and playing just 1 or 2 and forgetting about the rest for a while (pnc?). Another thing to take into account is that most of them are simple games that take a few hours to finish and don't give us any incentive to play them again.
I don't know if you remember, but a few years ago, when Steam Greenlight came out, we had a similar problem, several low quality games being launched and many complaining about it, as they were always at the top of sales, as many bought and played for a hour and a half and they returned them, but what was the problem? There was literally a developer that released 10 games a week, all 3 hours long, where we had very similar gameplays where only the skins changed between titles.
The first and third theories are correct, but the second doesn't seem viable to me from a logical point of view, 30% is a lot if we consider the other costs and inconveniences.
this is truly the htwo video of all time
no way its qffy
There's another explanation you didn't cover here: Some of these games are worthwhile and do have dedicated player bases, and the new & trending tab has so many of these because someone wants to 'ride the wave' to rephrase your third point.
For example, I've played many RPGs on Steam and have gotten recommended many similar games. Just because I played Crystal Project and Undertale via Steam and they count as RPGs doesn't mean I want more of the similar, even though Steam sometimes thinks so.
Extra point: Perhaps mature rated games for violence, sex, language, etc. such as Call of Duty are triggering the similarity. Many non-sex games have risque elements, and that similarity triggers the new & trending.
Enjoy!
@@Lotus_Riveraccording to some people who actually download them in the comments a lot of these games can be easily finished quickly leading to a low live playercount. Plus many of them might be quick cash grabs and it might be hard to find the actual good ones
@@Lotus_River You think about it on the wrong direction. A porn game does not need to have quality if it's can serve the purpose it made for. Games like these are usually not something that the player plays for a long time. Also since it's relatively cheap (2-10$) there is not really too much refund for them because it's just a very small amount of money that if you decided to spend then you very likely are not in need for that small pocket change.
With regards pornographic games showing up all the time: there's a lot visual novels/RPGmaker games that show up pretty much regardless of your steam content filtering settings, most of them aren't filtered out unless you're willing to filter out stuff like Cyberpunk 2077, Baldur's Gate 3 and Starfield.
Despite it no longer being necessary, these games essentially release in a heavily censored and cut down state to steam with there being an optional patch downloadable (or perhaps in some cases requiring a purchase?) from a third-party website (usually that of the publisher). Kagura games in particular does this with all games they publish, just try filtering sexual content on steam (while retaining the Cyberpunk etc category) and visit the page for kagura games and basically everything will still be there and most of the games don't exactly try to hide what they are, they just don't show uncensored explicit content in the promotional images/videos.
I wonder how many impressionable kids have stumbled across games with all kinds of fetish themes on steam because the games dodge the sexual content filters.
Then again I don't even know if filtering is on by default and steam doesn't keep track of your age in any way, so anything age restricted can easily be bypassed even if you at some point made the mistake of inputting an age that's less than 18 when prompted.
As an indie game developer who has spent close to 40 years in the industry and has produced a few adult titles as well, I take offense to the idea that these were cobbled together in a couple of days! These took at least a week.😁
That’s what I thought. Even bad games are difficult to make.
It takes that long to make a game like that?
@@adryncharn1910 It takes that long to make any type of game.
Having to launch Daz Studio and build some scenes takes time, no matter how low effort it is, those Adult tiltles are extremely low effort and no I can legitimately say not much people pay attention to them, also the laundering part might be plausible, just that I do think they might be riding on the backs of some amature dev that is just starting to learn about game developing.
Wow that’s worse, why put so much effort on low quality degenerate game
I'm not sure how I feel on this take, though the amount of thought and research you put into it is very impressive. The fact is, a lot of erotic games that actually do well DO have some level of gameplay that keeps players from immediate gratification. It's super common, and people seem to at least put up with it, if not enjoy it. So I wouldn't entirely count that as a reason these can't be legitimate (if bad) attempts at catering to a niche.
And while the awkward, stiffly posed 3D renders aren't my thing, visual novels have always been the most common venue for this sort of game, just because of ease of access to both players and devs. So, again, it might just be a case of knowing their audience.
So really... yeah, it probably is just a case of devs knowing what their audience wants but not bothering to put in the effort to make it shine, in combination with the audience being degenerates, with maybe some other in-depth monetization stuff that @denpoo4561 seems to know more about than I do.
I am a open casual collector and player of these games.
The genre of the game is very simple, the center is about sex, obviously. So the hurdles that in the way to make such game is very few, therefore they has a very unstable quality.
The hard part is that the quality of these games are very subjective. Especially on these kind of games, it is very dependent on the players kink to decide what is good and bad. I like the steam approach towards contents because it is possible that incompetence is the limitation to the creators idea and suppressing them will discourage improvement and new creators have no chance to have response to improve themselves on.
However, it seems to me the games that is in the video is unnaturally expensive and "trending". I think your point of money laundering is a strong point, at least something shady is behind.
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@@orange3295 No thanks, I have seen what they have done to people.
No lie, finding good H games is actual WORK. There's so much quick cash grabs out there. I almost wanna fault him for picking 3 trash games, but to someone from the outside trying the H genre for the first time .... I guess i can't blame him, it's so filled with these shovel ware-esque titles.
And you make a decent point, even if it has extremely high quality, if it doesn't match your personal tastes, you probably won't like it.
I don't think it's money laundering personally: If i had to guess my theory is - Gaming the algorithm to put it on top, key sites buying super cheap titles like these for rando bundles and gacha stuff on their sites, people's natural curiosity getting them to buy it on a whim (only for them to see it's trash and stop playing immediately, and quit, if not outright refund it). Plus other shady stuff on the side, like the actual company itself investing a few dozen or hundred purchases to boost themselves(which would just fit into gaming the algorithm but anyways), and other tactics like it
@@Darkxification He wasn't looking for "quality" games, he was looking at the games that were inexplicably at the top of the trending list. The fact that the three highest-trending adult games are like this is the very point.
I go on itch. Which is very much alive and kicking
Moi:
*Sees title*
Also moi:
" Why not ? "
my friends and i got a game called "a gay love story about gay love" for like 17 cents and it was so poorly written and janky it was funny, i turned my autoclicker on and got a ending in less than a second
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Sounds like you got what you came for.
Since you don't dabble in the H game market, you wouldn't know that there's actually REALLY good H games out there. There's an evolution happening right now in the H game scene and developers are coming in that want to actually make a REAL video game that just happens to reward you with T&A
If anybody here likes GOOD H games (like the game is actually a game), check out Touhou Kimono Blast. It's a GREAT bullet hell Strip em Up (Think Deep Space Waifu, but with more strategy).
I think H games and AVN are two different genres bro
@@55rz55 wow! That's a really great point. Yes, unless a VN whether it's an AVN or just a regular VN has interactivity like multiple choices or some type of gameplay, I would agree that they are two different things.
there's a scene 🗿
also just play hdoom at this point lmao
@@awii.neocities H doom is a mod, not an actual H game. A real H game is one that was intentially made with sex/nudity in it. That's like saying download the sex mods for Skyrim. I'm not saying that's a bad choice, but they're mods.
Yes! Thank you! It's VERY difficult to explain when you boot up Big Screen Mode and this is plastered on your Store page. Found my niece staring at "this" on the Store page, while she was looking to play Disney Infinity. I personally play Far Cry 6, COD and Sons of the Forest, not this stuff and the maturity filtering is hard to get right...
I can see both of the main explanations being true to some extent; people see that there are successful low effort boobie games and try to get rich by doing them, and money launderers can see it as an easy venture, no matter which came first
A theory I have as to why the games are so popular is that websites buy the games to resell the steam keys in packs. I know a few websites where you can buy a pack of random steam keys for games that are generally garbage, and I can imagine there are a lot of these games in those packs.
Why if your reselling keys would you sell sex games that are age restricted instead of the normal steam garbage.
@@sownheard Most likely the devs gave the keys to the sellers to boost their numbers on Steam.
MILFs of Sunville has a higher all-time peak (830) on Steam than Concord. After a year, MILFs currently has 51 players on it.
Please make more videos about those kinds of games, I want to see more of Reginald the almighty.
(All praise Reginald our lord and savior)
If you want to play a really fun "boobie" game, I would recommend you Scarlet Maiden. In its essence it's basically just a Dead Cells-like roguelite with LOTS of "boobies", but the game has certain originality. The combat system is great, the story is hilarious and likable, and the pixel art animations are just GORGEOUS.
A man of culture.
recommending good porn on youtube is crazy
You are not the only person who makes honest reviews! You are last in line not first!
Something else to note, I imagine most accounts/people that play these games have their accounts privated. And stuff like steam charts using APis likely cannot see any playtime from a private account.
I mean it's probably mostly money laundering and quick cash grabs but I'd guess private accounts are another factor.
Most people keep all their sexual activities extremely on the down low, they've spent their whole life being sneaky and silent about it. Multiple that even more when living with parents/children, have religious families/laws, have nosey people spying on them all the time.
Reggie single handedly carried this entire video, great stuff man keep it up
I've got an easier, simpler, and better solution: have a separate check box, in account settings, for 'lewd' titles, as a new genre entirely.
Unchecked by default. That way no one will see adult material if they don't wish to, however they'll still see the gory non-sexual video games.
No overcomplicated methodology, just a check box and genre tag. They could probably implement that in days even when being lazy.
Edit: I just checked, and apparently they DO have the option to hide sexual content in Store Preferences. Right on the main page of the Preferences. I unchecked the box and I'm not getting sexual games and all the other ones with adult themes like GTA, Cyberpunk 2077 etc.
Y'all complaining over nothing.
Your 2 and 3 theories are not right for the first game at least. Horos and the Last Orgasm I don't know so maybe you're right, but the first game has been in development for 2 years through patreon and porn forums like F95. These visuals novels are typically done by guys creating them out of personal interest. Like, if I want a game where I can build a harem of black BBWs, there's no games out there, but I can make one myself if I just figure out how RenPy works. It's basically a slightly more techy form of fan fiction writing. The guy writing MILFS of Sunville has been working on that game for 2 years as a hobby inbetween work and shit. The only reason it has popped up on Steam is because fans were asking to play it on Steam. Same with A Porn A Time, and many others that you showed in the new & trending list, Horos and TLO are literally the only two I don't recognise.
Visual novels are a pretty good format when you are trying to play a game one handed
The real explanation is that these games are mostly one man projects from people that arent´t experienced in making games but need some kind of hook to finance the production. Without the sex no one would care about them.
You should have bought Karyn Prison, it have a very good story, structured and easy to understand mechanic, and I bet it will make you come back to play again (totally not for the boobies).
yeah he picked the bottom of the barrel type of boobie games and is deciding thats how the rest of them are like that, Third Crisis, Zetria, Venture Seas, Subverse, Snow Daze, Ravager, Realms of Bondage, LAdy Killer in a Bind, Custom Order Maid, Breeders of Nephelym, and Corruption of Champions are pretty quality games. there are plenty more too
If only Black Souls was on Steam. Oh well.
@@FrostyShock349 Such refined suggestions my fine friend, i sincerely thank you for these goldmines game names
There are good booby games???
i never thought id see a day where htwo plays booba games on youtube
it has already happened in the past
@@Username-jx2ij WHAT THE SCALLOP
@@binkleyoutube but it was not really extreme it was just a puzzle peice game with naked furries
@@monkol_funniesohh, I remember that
@@binkleyoutubeplease tell me why people keep saying what the scallop, it’s so fucking funny and I don’t understand it at all
i absolutely love your music choices
I'll answer your question, it's easy. Me. I'm the reason there are so many. The number of hentai/ecchi games on steam are a tiny drop in a bucket of what exists. I usually get them from japanese sites that I have to translate, but the indie scene (everywhere english/russian/japanese/korean/ect) is really popping off right now. Steam is only getting a handful of the most popular ones, even though some of the greatest of all time have yet to make it to steam because of "problematic" reasons.
edit: after finishing the video I realized you investigated the TRASH hentai games on steam. I think you're 100% correct. You answered my question on why there are so many absolute trash H games on steam. Those aren't legit indie titles like "Cloud Meadow" or "Scarlet Maiden" or any good at all like "Adventures of Micoco" or "Love Esquire"
Reggie is so good, he should have his own channel
Wait until these guy finds about F95zone he could have saved 30 pounds and still and could actually meet the people who play these games
This is basically a tutorial to lose your sanity
There MIGHT be a way to game the algorithm that determines how a game ranks. If the ranking is something like sales vs time then if you can artificially boost the sales by a few bots, sockpuppets or gifting and ensure that the game is uploaded and launched in one hit with no previews or prerelease you might be able to get a crazy high ranking for a short time.
Add to that the "get a refund if didn't play over 2h" policy and there's probably A LOT more sales that happened, but got their refunds as well. More people are gonna buy it if they know the game is "virtually free" under the correct conditions.
The VN style games usually have an option for "skip unseen text" and button to skip, so it isn't as tedious as it seems to press Skip, let the game run in the background for a few minutes, then look at the gallery for another 10'ish minutes before getting rid of it from the library.
what a weird excuse to play such games
NTL media made treasure of Nadia and genesis order and their both really great. Being a DIK is also a rather decent for a “boonies game” but what’s more impressive about that one was the soundtrack.
you should try "she will punish them" that is a boobie game that is good and made with high dedication, is currently in early acess
My man, I don't think he's taking recommendations on that kinda thing ☠️
Bro has experience 💀
ok i'm looking for a straight boob simulation. like two boobs that bounce and squash.
like in the belief that boobs reduce stress. i've been looking high and low for games that have actual physic simulations with mass-springs that make a 3d model of a boob bounce around. can't find any. all look super lame.
i don't care if the boobs are shiny orange balloons, i want to see a game with bouncing boobs, because i think that's healthy. so i started making one. i hate modern video games with their stupid "realism" and useless movie style "play". really it's like every game since asteroids was made by a retard.
there are half a dozen videos explaining XPBD so anyone can program physics. the fact is, people are just too retarded to. i can't find one even half decent bouncing video game boob.
(*anime boobs is not boobs, it's decades of psychological abuse)
I'd rather recommend a Senran Kagura game. Really good if you're into Beat'em ups.
it is too expensive to money launder with games, steam takes a 30% cut, and then the government takes a cut out of left overs it as well, plus you need to pay some one to build the game...
and! pay people to buy the game is crazy! you need to pay 10,000 people to clean 100K$ if the game is 10$.
you can also see most of the devs on those games are public with patreon and shit.
the explanation is much easier, if you go to sites that have those kind of games for free you will see millions of download - there is just a huge community of p0rn addicted gamers who play any game of this type that comes out.
I would like to shine some light on the only kind of this game that I ever played, that legitimately surprised me with how high quality it was. this game is called "friendship with benefits". obviously the initial reason I got it was because MLP boobs, but I was caught off guard by how good parts of the story were, as well as genuine character development. It also avoids most of the problems mentioned. it's high quality due to being real drawings made by an actual artist, and as mentioned before the story has effort put into it. not to mention there's actually some references to other games, like doom ("rip and tear" is said about 3 times), and tf2 ("there's more", "no!"). it also doesn't waste any time showing you pony boobs either, you see them only like 2 minutes into playing it.
this reads like the "it's called clopping dad" video 🎉
@@Junniebug yeah it does lol
you really posted this huh
Wave goodbye to yer head, clopper!
Twisted Scarlet is awesome. They just released another game too
I tend to buy these sorts of games on sale or in bundles. I play them, but not as many as I buy. They aren't "good" per se, but I like that they have unusual features. For instance, there's several of these games where you can move arrows around a board in some weird way. It's stupid, but it's entertaining briefly.
Even if they are made by money launderers, I appreciate that some of these games exist.
It may seem like there's too many of them, but some of them are tailored towards specific fetishes. Obviously, games with rarer fetishes will have fewer customers, but the people who do buy them will want exactly those games.
I love the implication that Treyarch recorded their own zombie sounds instead of taking them from a stock sound library like everyone else.
I'd really like to think that people didn't think of laundering money using these games until after Htwo suggested it, as unlikely as that sounds.
Reggie has serious main character energy
There are definitely good adult games out there and I think thats worth calling out because we already have such a stigma about sex in games... which is kinda wild, right?
You literally showed 3 video game characters get brutally murdered but you'd get demonetised if you showed a female nipple. The normalisation of violence juxtaposed with the demonisation of sex is quite something to behold (and I'm not saying your video is doing anything wrong, just that it highlights the hypocrisy in our society by proxy of RUclipss rules)
yeah this really gives an interesting outlook on the situation, you seem very intelligent and thinking outside the box.
About the quality control thing I don't think that would be a good option because there might actually be quite some "bad" games that were made seriously
2:09 Reggie you absolute unit
so if you DON'T want the "booby games", then why would you leave "Frequent Nudity or Sexual Content" CHECKED in your Preferences? it seems like you are shooting yourself in the foot and then complaining that your feet hurt...
CGI erotic games are usually the worst. Fr that money laundring theory feels true... However there are some hidden gems amongst the 2D when it comes to boobie games. Some of them are pretty/funny/have actual gameplay/animations (like Huniepop). Also Reggie is the best. Pls review more porn games so we can see more of Reggie again!
Create an only fans but just post regular pictures of Reggie now that would be funny
Nekopara
people love to say laundering money but in truth there way simpler way to launder money than lose around 15% in tax and 30% steam commission most of these game are cheap game made for coomer that will pay it and regret it or play it once stolen asset made into a game in less than a day sold for 5$ still endup making a few thousand sell
@@the_legendary_fireRecord Reggie 24/7
@@aoki6332 This. Expensive art is a much simpler way to launder money. NFTs make it easier.
Imagine Walter laundering money using a boobie game in 2023 😂
It would not work because all the sales would be tracked through the steam store.
And the games are way too cheap for any real money laundering.
😂 Money laundering through a 6 dollar game you would need 10 payment accounts for 60 dollar
And 100 payment accounts for 600.
Your better off saying you found the money at that point 😂
At any larger scale the thieves would have to own a bank to create that many credible account's
as every payment would be tracked by steam.
Seeing that scene and that actress playing that role and it being summer, almost makes me want to rewatch the show again when I already did like 2-3 years ago.
6:10 nah this part was hilarious!
We need a Reggie photo compilation
Y’know, I have this exact thought every time I open up steam. Those mostly realistic hentai games with decent reviews. The Japanese ones are even more insane, and the only reason I never played out of curiosity is because they are always too expensive to justify the purchase 😅
2:06...good luck soldie...i know what you trying to uncover and i respect you for it...a legend
6:18 What was that sound you made?