Disney needs to stop trying to fix what isn't broken.
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- The latest Aladdin trailer is out and it showcases so many nostalgic scenes recreated in live action. But is it all just an attempt to baiting us into buying tickets for movies we've already seen when the company could be putting their resources towards other projects like "Gigantic" which was canceled? Yes, yes it is but with that being said, Disney is making major changes to our girl Princess Jasmine. We've seen this done before with Belle and the two of us aren't fans of it. So we're going to rant about it! Either way, these movies are probably going to keep making a lot of money but we're still holding out for "Gigantic."
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Why is Disney taking all the established strong female characters and trying to make them "stronger" or change up their character? Belle and Jasmine don't need to be changed
Will they explained Jasmine mother, I wish Halle Berry should have played Jasmine mother in flashbacks and tell us her named
@@J1258-7e Why do we even neeed to know about the mothers, unless they have a purpose to the story the don't need to be in these remakes.
@@SuperGamerxl i agreed but I don't like remake
It’s idiotic honestly...Emma Watson RUINED Belle. I loved Belle because she was kind, smart, loved to read, and more. Emma brought parts of herself into this that didn’t need to be there. As an actress she needs to become the character not make the character her...it’s bs.
Megumin is top tier waifu because Disney doesnt want to be poor
In the animated film Jazmine had a lot of depth, she was sweet and caring but also could stand up for herself if the situation called for it. And she wasn't afraid to speak her mind either. The live action one seemed to be just spiteful and even down right mean at times...what Aladdin saw in her is beyond me. She seemed less educated and more....smartassed like how she brought up the maps and said aladdin's kingdom was made up, felt less like she was trying to see if he was lying and more like one of those know it all children trying to act all proud. They made her less of a character and more of mary sue. And that song was. Apower fantasy if I ever saw one, not even fighting just guys turning to dust while she sings how strong she is? Are they saying women can only be strong in their dreams? I am getting mixed messages here....or it was a complete hack job done by a bunch of people who have no idea what was going on in the film originally, I don't know it's a toss up.
I’ve noticed that they’re mainly remaking 1990s era Disney films with the exception of Dumbo which is from the 40s, they’ll be redoing Lilo & Stitch next
The sad thing is that my family likes these remakes saying it was more better than the original, especially when it comes to the Beauty and the Beast remake cause they find Emma Watson more charming, but I'm the opposite of that as I find Emma's Belle more bitchy than anything and what they are doing to Jasmine is stupid, these "changes" are more damage than good.
Agreed. I found Emma's take on Belle to be very sulky and irritating.
autobee23 Emma is literally
Playing herself in this film. In an interview she says how she sees herself in Belle and wants to steer the story her way. Belle would do the same things as her.
She’s basically playing herself.
Yes too much modern feminist themes, Jasmine was not on about being King or career. Seems too much changed.
Dalia the handmaiden had more presence and power than Jafar. If thats the message Disney wanted to send then I don't know....
It also bugs me that so many people will STILL watch these remakes once they come out, thereby giving Disney that sweet money anyway.
I never understood the concept of remakes, because if you love a movie, then WHY would you wanna see it being remade? Same goes to show with all these Stephen King-movie remakes that are coming out too, really. I refuse to watch them or give them any of my time, because the originals are perfectly good and don't need these new mass produced remakes to try to outshine them.
I'm sick and tired of Marvel-movies too, but at least they're original and most of them haven't been filmed before (from what I know). I'd rather Hollywood kept shitting Marvel movies out than see yet another remake of any kind being promoted. That's a huge statement coming from me.
Lmao it's hilarious that they're talking about "finally getting jasmine to be portrayed correctly" when they literally couldn't get someone of the same ethnicity to play her.
And SJWs will still say she's not woke enough. They still complain about Captain Marvel as well. These people just can't be pleased.
Benjamin Wambeke 💯👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
The cartoon character seems to have a different nose (beside the skin color and hair) than all the other princesses, implying she was middle eastern looking, with a more arch'y nose. Would be nicer if they chose someone like that instead of the totally generic looking actress.
Ingrima Yea her nose and eyes are very distinctive. Her skin is also quite dark. I always thought she was one of the most beautiful Disney princesses & I’m completely underwhelmed by their actor choice... I’m really not even impressed with the male actor for the exact same reasons. They both have different looks ...not to mention there is a ton of colorism in India & Middle East. So I’m sorry for all the little girls that don’t get to look up to dark-skinned jasmine and instead have to watch the whitewashed version !
@@reinal7896 I don’t feel middle easterners are colorist maybe you just have seen different things then me? I’m half middle eastern and that’s been my personal experience, but I have limited experience so.
The phrase I keep hearing the media use to justify these remakes is that "these live action remakes are more sophisticated than the animated versions". Not only is it insulting to the medium of animation, it just isn't true.
I don't even see enough articles to know if that's even a common sentiment.
@@KeybladeMasterAndy It's mostly seen in videos, the written media just talks about their financially profitability.
@@slmndw Hunh. I guess most of the videos I watch are a bit tired of the trend.
It’s really sad! Disney just sees a new cash cow, and is milking it for all it’s worth! It kinda reminds me of when they were making all those awful, straight to video sequels, of their classic films! When you get right down to it, their tainting their classic movies, playing on our nostalgia, all to make a quick buck! I guess they can’t come up with anything new and original! Pathetic!
@Solomon Dow It's sad when the kings of animation no longer respect animation.
when some of us criticize female portrayal on media, we never meant we wanted a now stereotypical 'independent' female character in every friggin movie. We wanted them to be more human. Oh boy, they don't understand at all
KazumiShiunsai riiight!!
@Xadion SJW hypocrisy and double standards at work.
Who cres about relateble characters anyway XD ts fine with captain marvelel that was a paragon character for it.
But belle is a paragon for kingness and openness, and jasmin is relatable because she is lonely, and takes away her agency in the movie.
@Xadion This. This, goddamnit
Yes!!!! They act like you can only be a feminist if you are a very specific kind of woman... And a woman is only strong if she's rude and punch people. Kidness is seen as a weaknes.
Excuse me Raja is perfect and is her best friend!
I know right? Changing her best friend from Rajah to this other chick feels insulting to me because, as as kid, my best friend was my cat. I could relate heavily to Jasmine in that way. I hate that they’re tearing Jasmine and Rajah’s relationship.
@@giannamalrose2437 And they better not come with the excuse of being expensive to create a digital animal - what the heck is The Lion King, after all?!?
Who needs a human bff if you have a pet tiger? My only best friend is my cat. Shes my Raja.
Kitties are great besties, regardless of size.
ParadiseofDarkness rajahs in the film
If they want to ”fix” Jasmine, they should have given her her OWN movie than trying to make Aladdin her movie.
Über Kirbeeh What about her was "broken" in the first place? She didn't like being viewed as a prize, she left to find freedom, and she wanted to marry for love, not social status. Did these people even watch these movies or the TV series at all?
Alladin is about Alladin, not Jasmine and always has. It's called "Alladin"
@@Daniellasanche Very true, Jasmine already has a perfect good quality role in the original, but Aladdin is called Aladdin for a reason. And they ruined what was so special about it!! Disney had been making Princess movies for so long, and then they finally made a film about a male character who isn't just a prince with an almost nonexistent character arc! All of us, young boys particularly, got to view love through the eyes of a young, flawed and even innocent man! It was a romance not viewed primarily through the eyes of the princess....
Everything you said is exactly why I don’t trust these live-action Disney films and try to avoid them at every turn.
@Dan Williams Me too!
Yup, I'm not watching ANY of these live-action remakes.
I'll catch the reviews on RUclips!
One of the THEMES of the original story was the feeling of being trapped: Aladdin trapped in his own poverty, Jasmine trapped inside the palace, and the genie literally trapped inside the magic lamp.
It was something that united the main protagonists. It united the story. But of course they are going to forsake narrative theme and symbolism for Jasmine to be "strong and independent." *long sigh* She WAS strong and independent. She has a tiger as a familiar, and even escapes the palace in the original.
But oooooof course, "Jasmine don't need no man!"
Dungeon Shyster Excellent point. These people don't understand *themes* or *symbols* ...and they're supposedly storytellers.
People are afraid of the concept of a man and woman needing each other. I think it's beautiful. I think it's a basic human need to want the company of others, to find someone you can depend on and trust and share everything with.
Darian Fields it is beautiful:)
That’s how it’s supposed to be.
That’s why they complement each other :)
That’s what marriage is supposed to be!
Dungeon Shyster Exactly. Jasmine hated being royalty but making her want to be the Sultan takes away her cage and actually makes it logical for her to want a political marriage.
Its more complex then that. I've heard from Western friends that Jasmine is weak and a push-over. For someone like me, Jasmine is a hero. I recognize that the life she has is "ideal" but its NOT what she WANTS for herself. She knows at some point she'll become Queen and she'll have to navigate her interactions with the public. The fact she was unaware of the harsh punishments on the poor, the palace guards going after Aladdin, and Jafar's control over the guards; she would have never found out what Jafar's motives were. Yet, she is a woman, in a "conservative" community, or the understanding it is. Jasmine has to be strategic in how she addresses her concerns. The fact Jasmine KNOWS how to do this, shows she's a far deeper character then people give her credit for. There are so many RUclips commentators that say she's a bad character or that she lacks depth, etc. These remarks come from people that have dismissed her. I'm thinking, this is the crowd, Disney is listening to. Even when merchandising the Disney Princesses, she is not one they include most of the time, it's Ariel and Belle from this era in Disney film making. Do you notice it, too?
✔️ Disney movies becoming Broadway musicals
❌ Disney remakes that don't know what made the originals amazing
Remakes and reboots aren't inherently bad. But completely ignoring what made the original so loved is bad and ends up isolating the fans and not pleasing newcomers.
Take Heathers. The movie was an iconic movie. The musical made the story better. The Netflix series completely lost the point.
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And this is why sometimes I’m glad Disney hasn’t touched their non-classics like Newsies yet
@@midnightmage5970 remember when Disney had some sort of originality? Those were the days...
enyacoladas yessssssssss
enyacoladas
Oh yes
I even liked their flops like Emperor’s New Groove and Atlantis
Those were pretty good
@@midnightmage5970 Ohhh my gosh.... No joke -- Atlantis actually made me want to become a historian...
Which is what I DID become! (I always forget how much it inspired me!)
Okay. So, I admit, it has been a while since I watched Aladdin, but since when did Jasmine want to be Sultan? Did I miss that part?
@Ariel Smith I didn't think so. Didn't seem like Jasmine.
It is a change that they made to fit their ideals because they don't think that she had a strong enough motivation for herself. She had a very strong motivation, to change the laws of the kingdom, not only to change the law of marriage but also to get rid of Jafar(the person practically running the kingdom).
It's a horrible change. It's weird that Jasmine would want to overthrow her father's rule, since she loves her father and her father never treated her unkindly, even if he enforced the rule that Jasmine had to marry a prince and couldn't leave the palace. It was much sweeter for her father to realize the law was wrong after seeing Jasmine was in love with Aladdin, and then change it, than Jasmine becoming sultan and changing it herself. Her father's role and love becomes forgotten
@@kupotenshi I worry for most of the changes they decide on. This'll probably be just like the Beauty and the Beast remake for me: unnecessary and boring with minimal additions I enjoy.
H. Stryker Exactly! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Extremely annoyed with Disney sticking these political messages into movies and fixing what was never broken the past year.
I don't think they actually did that with Wreck-it Ralph. I think the line people were talking about is actually about how people misunderstand the princesses personalities and roles in their own movies.
@@KeybladeMasterAndy what I mean is just with their "live action" movies. Should've mentioned it. My bad.
@@Debicus Oh, yeah. That was very egregious with BatB. Mainly because it was unnecessary.
Can't say I've seen any live action Disney movies more recent than that, except Spider-man and Thor 3.
I liked Wreck It Ralph 2. It was as good as the original and I understood Vanellope's backstory of why she was tired of doing the Sugar Rush game.
Did you watch the ClownfishTV review of Wreck It Ralph 2 first before reading this? I dont agree with them at all about rhe movie though. Please confirm please! Thank you.
To @KeybladeMasterAndy
Did you watch ClownfishTV Wreck It Ralph 2 please confirm.
They are giving Jazmine a friend? Why she was lonely and miserable until Aladdin came. If you give her a friend then it looses it's impact. It would be like giving Dr. Doofensmitz friends. Or giving Elsa friends. *Original writters:* She is supposed to be miserable so let's lay it on thick miserable people lack friends. *New writters:* Nah lets tone that down.
icecream hero your right i mean its like giving naruto a friend from when he was an academy student
icecream hero and Jafar will be a nice, considerate, respectful villain instead of the cunning, controlling, domineering,over the top villain that we all know and love. Yeah, this reboot is gonna suck!
It's simple, the producers of this remake don't want viewers to think that Aladdin, a man, is the answer to Jasmine's friendlessness.
@@jesfavor831 But it kills the story she is supposed to be miserable.
@@jesfavor831 3rd wave Feminists are idiots.
Belle and Jasmine were already strong women, and they're turning them into Mary Sues.
I agree. Belle and Jasmine were wonderful independent women, but who still had that want of falling in love in their dreams. I think this is one of the things this new (idiotic) woke culture is against, the idea of a young woman wanting to fall in love with a handsome man. Like, uh, isn't that what MOST young ladies secretly hope for, True Love with a good, strong man? I'd say most men want a good, pretty woman to fall in love with. It's as if some people feel they need to show the woman as a COMPLETELY SELF-RELIANT AND INDEPENDENT AND TOTALLY COOL WITH BEING ALONE person BEFORE the idea of a man as a mate comes into their thoughts. It's ridiculous. I don't think it's real.
@@kenrohloff5265 That's where I disagree with you. A woman should be self sufficient and reliant on herself, and a man is not necessary in her life to complement her. There's nothing to complement, she's already whole. If someone's dreams include being with someone, that's alright but romance and relationships are not necessary, and teaching that is good for children.
What we want is female characters who are humans, with flaws and struggles and a way to overcome them.
@@LiterallyScarecrow So are you saying...you NEVER think about falling in love? You never wish for it? I totally believe people can be happy alone, but I would bet most people want that special someone to share a life with. I respect your opinion, honestly. I'm a Christian dude, and feel man and woman were created to find a partner and live happily ever after. You don't HAVE to do this to be happy...but it sure makes life a bit more magical with someone to romantically love. And besides...without it, society would cease to be
@@kenrohloff5265 Society will not cease to exist anytime soon, there's so much overpopulation and enough people are getting together and having children.
Thing is, romantic love has been the focus of Disney movies for so long, there's so much more to life than that. There's friendship, familial love, the love of an animal... The focus should change for a while because romantic love is good, but it's not everything, and it's okay to be by yourself as much as it is okay to be with someone.
Also, some people are aromantic.
@@LiterallyScarecrow I respect your thoughts, but stand by my words. I think MOST people would like romantic love. It's just a part of reality.
"She only wanted a man" girl she never said so , she was against getting married at least not by force , she wanted to see beyond the walls. I don't really think these new whatever you call em watched the original movie.
jean G Jasmine left to explore the world, Aladdin just happen to be there and happen to save her
@@toocoldtobother7271 exactly, it's like the directors of the LA just Skip3 that part
Jasmine wanted a friend someone to connnect to, that person just happend to be aladdin. but when you give her a butler and not a tiger. it ruins the whole motivation and the theme of being trapped that all the protagonists were united with in the plot.
Also, she once yelled at her father, Jafar, and Aladdin that she was not a prize to be won. “Only wanted a man”. Bullshit.
@@khfan4life365
Exactly.
The beauty about these older Disney films is that they were made to cater to people young and old. They are timeless stories that focus on good morals, memorable characters, and a sense of magic that keep us coming back year after year. A magic that makes us want to introduce our kids to it so they can feel the same way we did. These live action remakes, on the other hand, are focused on taking what other people poured their blood, sweat, and tears into, and churning out a more politically correct version for money. Take Dumbo for example: a big reason why that movie succeeded was because of animator Bill Tytla, who was known for drawing villains in Disney like Stromboli and Chernabog. But with Dumbo, he wanted to animate the main character to break away from that, and manage to create something so powerful through the magic of animation that Dumbo, despite having no dialogue, makes you instantly connect with him and stand on his own as a character. The new Dumbo has none of that, because it's just a photo-realistic elephant with big ears that sometimes acts cute. It's not a character. And that is the problem with these remakes: they take actual characters that animators and writers put so much effort into bringing to life and convincing us were real and replace them with imitations.
I agree with you there, animation is way more powerful than realism, this is the reason I'm worried about the Lion King.
Samaru onesixthree I love Tim Burton but I will not be watching Dumbo. Another problem I found is that Dumbo was supposed to be a standalone character. A tough journey by himself. He goes through things on his own and along with some support from Timothy mouse. I wanted only Dumbo. But there are too many annoying human protagonists and therefore the original story and message gets lost. It seems people are taking charge and babying Dumbo. And that sucks.
@@twilightfades_7 I get what you mean, but I'll still be watching it because they were honest about it, unlike these other remakes that only draw people in because if the nostalgia even if they're changed (as they don't show it in the trailers), even if I don't like the remake I'll still have the original, besides I'm really curious of what Tim Burton has done with Dumbo xD
@@Nateiliand. But if you go see the movie, you're putting money in their pockets and basically telling Disney that it's okay to remakes good movies into bad/meh movies. Don't be part of the problem.
@@nonyabusiness3619
It's not that big of a deal.
I also need to add: that best friend quote is very sexist and shallowly stereotypical. When I was a little girl, my best friend was a boy and my group of friends consister of mainly boys (just one other girl was there but she was as tomboyish as I was) - it was actually all the other little girls that shamed and isolated me for being different so I give a hearty middle finger at this "girl power solidarity" bullshit. It wasn't until high school when my best friend was a girl and I gained more friends who were girls but even then, the ratio of my friends of boys:girls would be like 6:4. I just socialize better with boys.
I also don't do hugging - I'm not a touchy-feely person and if me or my high school best friend did as the article said, we'd be looking at each other weirdly and go, "Uh...you okay there? You sick or something?" Even then, I considered my dog as my closest friend (bless his soul as he passed away last year) as he was always there for me when things got rough and did help throughout tough times (way to go with making Rajah so insignificant).
They don't want equality or diversity or to truly empower women or whatever: they want shallow tokenism and their egos stroked while playing on the most stereotypical PR imaginable. Shameful.
I had no (best) friends, and for me characters like Jasmine were a good example. Not everyone is Snow White
Masked Blanks I'm one of those apparently nonexistent ("nonexistent" in the eyes of the movie makers) girls who relates to almost everything you say. I'm a very hyperactive and sportive person. And for that reason a lot of girls didn't enjoy hanging out with me because they saw me as a "tomboy".
I didn't have any "best" guy friends per se, but there were lots of boys that were good to me whom I was at least moderately close with. Actually one of them in particular I would literally stick to like glue. I followed him around a lot and we talked and got into hilarious arguments. We didn't exactly spend every waking moment together, and we never actively sought each other out, but whenever we found ourselves in the same room our interactions were very sweet and memorable. Actually looking back, he really was one of my favorite people, I think the only reason we weren't _best_ friends was because he was already very close with my older brother, so he probably saw me as his best friend's sister. Regardless he was an adorable, kind little boy. We don't talk anymore but I miss him to this day.
In any case, I already hate this character Dalia, not because she exists, but for what she represents. Maybe I'm discrediting a lot of effort the writers could be putting in here, but to me it sounds like her character will only be boiled down to "stereotypical best friend that the 'strong independent woman' main character is obligated to have because God forbid a girl having guy friends for any reason at all". There's literally no other reason for this character to exist. And to the creators I would ask: _what_ is so wrong with having friends of the opposite gender? What is the point of Dalia? Because I honestly don't think there _is_ any point to Dalia.
Shit if you were in a series the writers would've made you get together with your male best/childhood friend instead of letting you remain friends. I'm just assuming you never dated him.
Amen to that. My friendship ratio is 3-1 to girls because I feel more comfortable around them. And it has nothing to do with attraction
@@NonStopKnocks Sadly, I lost contact with him when I went to a different high school. So nope, I've never dated him. XD
I’m definitely worried about this movie. This trend of redoing female characters to match a rather ignorant and self-glorified trend has FAR overstayed its welcome. And that part about adding in a new character is seriously a best friend squad clone from Netflix’s She-Ra. The early Disney characters tend to wanted one thing, but it was something that the audience wanted as well on an individual level not a social or political one. That’s all that really needs to be done now more than ever
It is a trope, hollywood uses those to trim down the work that needs to be done and win some points in the media.
Disney will follow the SJW fad no matter what, and the people will leave them. Given enough time the Mouse will catch itself on its own trap
Groomsman 💯 agree
Groomsman I don't know why people plan to watch it. I'm not.
I don't mind how you create a character but I do mind the political message being shoved into movies where they don't belong
Also how about...new original movies and not remakes of already adored and established films?
You should never hire writers/directors/producers for a remake who've obviously not done their research and dislike things about the original. Especially when it's a remake of a movie that's loved by so many people. The fans of the source material are going to be comparing it to the source material, and trying to make it 'better' is never a good idea.
Can we please go back to the times when female characters were strong without hating men or forcing their views on others and were actually likeable?
Yesssss!
Even as a feminist i am starting to despise this whole idea that they have to completely rework a classic female character and throw in another female character for her to be friends with. Its not that those close girl relationships should not exist, but when an integral part to a character is the fact that they are so lonely and so desperate to escape their oppressive environment, that it INCITES their leaving in the first place, thereby kicking off the bulk of the story, and you change that so they do have a friend, they are not as lonely, where does that desperation go? I feel like they are ruining Jasmines arc here in the name of being "more empowered" and while i am all for empowerment of female characters, they are really hamfisting and cheapening it, and saying that there was something wrong with a character who had absolutely nothing wrong with her in the first place...and in fact was one of the most independent princesses of the bunch, especially when you count all movies and the show. Jasmine was always my favorite and i hate seeing her done this way.
Finally someone who sees it!
Exactly Jasmine and Belle were such powerful women and to downplay them so much is insulting.
@@foodini666 lol ok? Sound argument, I guess ?
It seems to me that alot of moviewrighing people dont understand (or care)about storytelling. They just add stuff they want without thinking how it fits the overall story. I heard someone saying it´s a similar trend with directing as well. many seem to think just in terms of "sences" and not as much how they will fit together to service the overall film.
The thing is, they are passing on a completely distorted idea of what feminism and empowerment is. As if a woman to be strong has to be in a very specific way, she can not have weaknesses, insecurities.
None of the Disney remakes ever made me feel nostalgic or made me feel like I was a kid again
What DID make me feel nostalgic was watching the original animated movies
They are just adding celebrities and nostalgia for movie tickets because Disney doesn't want to put effort into anything anymore.
Same
I dislike two things about the new Jasmine.
The first one if that new idea about wanting to be Sultan. Jasmine loved her dad more than anything, wanting to be the new sultan means she is thinking about her father´s death. Is totally agains Jasmine character, firstly because she is the kind of person who would want her dad to live forever, and secondly because Jasmine is aware of her own ignorance of the world, and would like to know and learn more before crowning herself.
The second thing I dislike is her friendship with Dalia. As the video says, Jasmine solitude is part of her character arc. Plus, it mirrowed part of my childhood, as I didn´t had a best friend, and characters like her were a good example of how to be strong without anyone (besides, a princess and a handmaiden would be discouraged to be friends)
@Siya only if the only way to be the ruler is having your father dead... Which is the case of traditional monarchies everywere. There is nothing wrong about Jasmine been the next sultan, but she cannot be crowned right now, or even in the next 10 years. The fact that she hopes to rule soon implies that she hopes her father will be dead soon too. And that is disgusting
And this is why I'm worried about the live action remakes the little Mermaid and Mulan. . . Especially Mulan. That was one of my favorites.
Dude, Mulan is hands down one of Disney's best. If they ruin that movie I won't forgive them. But they probably will though. In the Wreck it Ralph 2 movie. They had Mulan in the film as a princess. Mulan is not a princess.
They had better not touch little mermaid sebastian will look so creepy.
@@masterDarts4188 She is officially considered a Disney princess in the merchandise.
greenliongirl07 mulan its doooooooomed theres even going to be a bad boy in it so yeah mulan its screwed
greenliongirl07 Mulan live action is going to support abusive relationships.
The creators of the live action said themselves they're going to make Li Shang hate Mulan until he finds out she is a she. He didn't hate her in original. He was tough on everyone cuz this is war. He showed companionship after she started being good at being a soldier. Btw it also takes away her agency as a person. Saying her worth only exists as a woman for his desires.
I'm very worried about the message these new movies are sending to kids. A lot of them seem to have characters that are just needlessly mean or cruel to people without being given any reason why.
I shudder to think what these people would do to The Fox and the Hound
Dont worry The Fox and the Hound arent that big so it should be good. Bambi might be a different story though.
Yes! It made me so angry when everyone talked about how Belle was now a strong person. Like she wasn't strong before?? As the quiet and odd bookworm I've always found encouragement in watching someone like myself being the heroine of a story and to see that someone approves us. With the remake kids nowadays not only lost that but are told they're weak and worthless because they're not "strong". It's a potentially very damaging message filmmakers are sending out. Sorry about my rant, but I really wish people (filmmakers) would realise that people need other role models than angry, snobbish loudmouths.
These remakes don’t even hold up to the originals visually
They look like Broadway musicals done on a dime with the occasion cg fart effects in them.
As it artist, it drives me CRAZY that these live action remakes don't seem to understand the basic design sensibilities of the original movies. The color schemes in the live action remakes are dull and lifeless. And the actors they cast are often somewhere between barely passable or downright shitty (and Emma Watson's version of Belle was an insult to the original Beauty and the Beast)
DISNEY of all companies should have the budget to make these live action remakes look AMAZING. But, like the crappy direct-to-video sequels of lore, these modern live action remakes are just cheap cash-ins to rake quick, easy cash from nostalgic adults and easily entertained children
Of course not. Why they are even trying here is beyond me. Apu isn't going to be the same character.
The only one that did hold up in my opinion was the Jungle Book but I think they made the animals look so realistic that they lost a lot of their character. Like in the 2D animated one the unrealistic character design shows off each animals personality, but you don't get that in the remake. I think the same thing will be true of the new Lion King...
@@amyevans9618 I thought the same think with the new Lion King's trailer.
Also if Jasmine has a human friend, but runs off with Aladdin by the end of the movie, doesn't that just feel like all she wanted was booty? Not companionship?
I feel like that's the opposite of the message they'd want to convey. It makes both her relationships with Aladdin AND Dalia, more shallow
You ladies nailed this one. Disney is ironically and tragically losing their magic.
the worst thing about that beauty and the beast remake was the dress belle wore during the ballroom scene. at least cinderella gave their lead a fairytale dress
The dress was altered because of Emma Watson, she didn't want to wear a corset.
@@jeangentry6656 It wasn't just the corset. The whole dress was just bland looking. There was nothing special about it.
I hated Cinderella's dress too. It looks cheap and tacky.
Yeah the dress in the remake was underwhelming.
Belle’s dress in the remake looked like a cheap homecoming dress designed on Etsy.
It seems Disney's forgotten that it's (or was) mainly an animation company... maybe that's one of the main reasons why people are getting fed up with these live-action remakes as well as the changes they make from the originals etc.
Apparently, not enough people are getting fed up with these remakes, otherwise Disney wouldn't be churning them out like crazy.
Disney is becoming Cartoon Network
Special effects and VFX are a form of animation and besides the remakes, Disney has mad a lot of original movies that are great and arent just 2D animation
@@jakimaj7563 I agree on that
Theirs one film I do hope they remake (if they get it right) and that's FernGully
If it aint broke don't fix it, but they still try to "fix" whatever they think is broken despite nothing was broken in the first place....
Our current president JLo (that's what we call him) says "let's fix what's broken and improve what's good".
To them its more like if it ain't broke make it woke.
Everyone still has access to the original movies. Its not like they are scrapping them. And i dont believe they think they are broken. I think they are trying to implement new animation to give people a realistic feel when they watch the movie. Even though they change some things so its not an exact copy, its not always successful to the original plot. Disney isnt the only company making animation as realistic as possible.
My biggest issue with female characters these days is the notion that a female character cannot be strong, feminist, a good role model, etc unless she's a super smart, snarky, condescending kung-fu action girl that loudly declares how much she does NOT need/want the love of a man!
As if women (both in real life and fiction) who desire love, marriage, and a Happily Ever After are failures and bad role models for little girls.
Jasmine's character in the original movie made sense. She was a sheltered sixteen year old princess who felt stifled by her obligation to marry some random prince. So her goals were simply to get out and see the world outside her castle and to marry for love. Her character wont magically become more endearing, feminist, or fleshed out just because the new movie adds a sub-plot where she fights Jafar with a sword or demands the right to dictate Agrabah tax policy or whatever.
I had the same issue with the Ducktales reboot. Everyone went on and on about how the new Webby and Mrs Beakley were awesome because they could do karate and parkour and the old versions were shit because.....they behaved like a realistic little girl and old woman respectively. It just....REALLY rubbed me the wrong way. IMO, the new Webby and Mrs Beakley are kind of annoying because they go too far in the other direction (ie while the old versions were mostly weak and passive, the new ones spend almost all their screen time showing off how much more capable & badass they are than ALL the men around them)
And don't get me wrong, I don't think there's anything inherently bad about badass kung-fu action girls. I get that they came about because people were rightfully tired of female/princess characters who spent most of their movies' run-time just sitting around waiting for a man to save them and make their lives complete. But this new fad goes too far in the other direction. Instead of offering more diversity in what a female character can be; it just forces ALL modern characters to go into the "Feminist Action Girl That Needs No Man" box instead of the "Hapless Damsel In Distress" box.
MsBrendalina Internalized misogyny.
The original Webby and Mrs. Bickley were not weak and passive. They solved problems in their own way, and often much more effectively than other characters. Mrs. Bickley was always brave and protected children, and Webby was always the first to understand the situation and to have diplomacy. This is more important than stupidly waving fists and mindlessly jump into every pit.
@@WalkingJellyfish unfortunately, modern media seems to believe that the only kind of strength is fighting skill and assertiveness. there is strength in compassion and selflessness as well
Where is the lie in this. Facts only
I 100% agree. With the Webby and Mrs. Beakely analogy, you explained everything that has been bothering me over the same things. I love my female characters being female and not some hybridized joke. There's nothing wrong with a gentle personality. I wish more characters had it.
Jasmine was always my favourite princess BECAUSE she had a desire to be independent, rule her people right, and went out of her way to connect with her people to be a better ruler. What is wrong with that? There is nothing to “fix”
Wait, did you even watch the original?
She never wanted to rule over anyone. When Alladin says that it must be great to live as a royal, she is literally expressing how the life inside the palace is a negative.
I don't know where you got this "She wanna rule" plot from, but it sure as hell weren't from the animations, the live action actually fits you way better.
@@casperryborg4869 did you miss "was always my fav princess" part? yes I watched the original. She didn't have a desire to rule but knew she didn't have a choice and wanted to right by her people. I literally never said she wanted to rule please re read what I said. She has an entire song about how she wants to be more than a peacock princess and do right by her people.
Jasmine's jewelry isn't even gold
When Gaston brings you flowers but you heard he didn't eat 4 thousand eggs for breakfast.
"If it's not baroque, don't fix it!"
The old ones are the best ha ha
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I felt really bad for Gaston in the begining of the live action beauty and the best movie. That guy looked like he was trying so hard and he was pretty nice but Belle rejected him really bluntly and coldly.
Later in the movie they simplified Gaston to being cruel, iteration, and evil but at least in the begining he just seemed like a nice guy who was trying!
The issue is she has a love interest. That's their problem. They probably fell asleep when watching Aladdin.
Also they GOTTA shit on the old to hide their incompetence skills in these remakes.
Belle was smart and kind in the original. Emma Watson's Belle is prickly and arrogant.
she was a lady.. emma is a witch
Emma Watsons Belle is unlikable and arrogant
@@eamonclark4952 nah that's what the haters are like
They should remake the bad movies (cough) The Black Cauldron (cough) and not the ones that still hold up today.
OH YES THEY SHOULD FIX THAT!
No! They aren't allowed to touch Cauldron unless they decide to do the entire Chronicles of Prydain series. You can't take two books, cut out more than half of the important characters (including the main villain), and call it good.
@@shounenbat510 idk what that series is, but if you'll remember how much dead air there was in the movie and how they like to add time to their remakes, I think they'd have plenty of room to fit both stories.
@@RawrMeansIDontLoveU The Black Cauldron is the second book in a five-book series called The Chronicles of Prydain. I don't want to write out why, but I found an article that I mostly agree with when it comes to Disney's treatment of this property: medium.com/@marketingwhirlwind/a-disney-disaster-the-black-cauldron-part-1-a7619a1d0898
But I loved the Black Cauldron!
Why do they have to go and ruin Jasmine, she was fine as she was. She was one of if not my favorite of the Disney Princesses because of her wit and the way she and Aladdin got along, not just as romantic partners, but as great fighting parters in the final battle against Jafar.
They're probably gonna change it to where Jasmine single handedly defeats Jafar with the help of her hand maid friend.
Plot twist: the handmaiden is her secret lesbian lover. Fucking wait, it'll happen.
danougi団扇 Jafar does not sound evil at all. I think he will be a weak villain.
Admittedly, I was at first curious with seeing the Disney live-action remakes because I wanted to see what the films in my childhood were like in full-blown live-action. I was even excited. It wasn't until the live remake of Beauty and the Beast my opinion soured. It's not the premise of "animated to live action" that soured me because it's very possible to do those and even tweak it to make things more plausible or just work (e.g. Alita, Phoenix Wright, Rodger & Hammerstein's Cinderella). What soured me is the fact that Disney is trying so hard to cater to real-life politics and modern agendas which were never there in the original and most certainly NEVER made the magic.
When time goes by and the world realizes that such ideals and perspectives are not only destructive but obsolete and useless, these live-action remakes will NOT age well. There is no true magic in these live-action films. No child cares about identity politics or agendas. Children want action. They want fantasy. They want magic. A good number of adults also want that magic, too, because this real world can be too tiring at times and we want that escape AWAY from this crap.
I could seriously write an essay against the bashing of the Disney princesses and how they are most certainly NOT just "boy-crazy damsels in distress" but I'd be here all day. I swear, God forbid a woman not want a position in power and is content in just being behind-the-scenes, doing what she does, a secretary, or playing second fiddle. And God forbid a woman who WANTS to find a husband and get married. And God forbid a woman being feminine, girly, and lady-like or dressed quite well or is confident in showing some skin. Oh, the horror!
Interestingly enough some of the Disney princesses were actually more feminst and empowered than whatever the company is trying to do now. Just take a look at Belle, Jasmin, Ariel, even certain Cinderella's traits (inner strenght in an abusive household). The difference is that the statement was more subtle and natural.
Now look at the modern "feminist" movies and it seems that writers can't make a statement without putting the protagonist in an over the top "patriarchized" scenario. Is so stupid it hurts and sadly this is going to be the first contact of many children with the movement.
@@rosaradioactiva8974 Definitely! All those princesses had personalities beyond "empowered" and you can easily describe them with personality traits. They were all their own characters - the feminist and empowerment messages were definitely subtle and natural.
I find it so sad but at the same time, I'm hopeful. Disney isn't the only thing out there to expose kids to - one of my good friends has two kids, a son and a daughter, and she introduces them to Ghibli after I introduced her to it. Her children adore Ghibli and my friend loves it, too. So while Disney is going under with this uncreative slew, at least we can expose children to other forms of media that are worthy of praise and have actually great messages and role model characters.
Masked Blanks. I actually wouldn't mind reading an essay of yours against bashing Disney princesses. Preferably, a video essay on RUclips. You should consider it.
@@nonyabusiness3619 I'm flattered, truly. =^^= perhaps I'll consider it since it's long overdue, and I haven't uploaded videos in ages.
Hit me up with that essay on why the Disney princesses aren’t boy crazy because I agree with you and also because I would thoroughly enjoy it.
There are live action versions of all of these movies.. they're called Broadway musicals. They don't try to "fix" the original, rather they celebrate them while adding a fresh coat of originality. Plus we get more songs (that aren't complete garbage)!
I'm boycotting this movie and all future live action Disney remakes. Like if you're with me
Definitely with you buddy
I’m going to avoid the pointless extra sequels as well (such as Toy Story 4)
@@kimuires I actually want to see toy story 4, but spread the word we have to let Disney know we won't stand for this laziness
Hate them so much they don't have the magic of the animated versions and are just plain boring most of the time.
@@Toastcat890 so spread the word, get as many people to boycott these movies as possible.
@Tammi McDaniel we'll need alot of people across the globe to not see these movies in order for Disney to get the message. So get your friends in on it too.
I low-key want Rajah to be my best friend
we should make a club
no one is going to push you around if you have a tiger at your side
I'd rather watch a low budget sequel to a Disney movie than a high budget remake of one.
Remember those days?
Those were at least fun to shit on & never seen as a threat
But with these live actions, they aren’t even fun in an ironic way. It’s just.. Flat & disappointing. & the worst part is how much money they keep making, so it just encourages this stupid live action movement, & frankly that is just sad.
Well, from what I've heard, the Dumbo remake isn't doing too well. Maybe if their bigger name remakes, like Aladdin and Lion King, start underperforming, then they'll stop making them.
Sparkpad Aladdin is just cringe and so wrong
What in my opinion is the strangest thing is that in the beauty and the beast acted black people, because I am European and back in this time the only black people that existed were "attractions" for the royals, some of them collected different looking/disabled humans (actually the beauty and the beast is inspired from a real happend love story between one of these human attractions that had a syndrom that made him grow hair all over the body and a beautiful woman...)
So this is absolutly historical incorrect.
When skincolor really doesn't matters, why do they feel like they must have black people in the movie? What's racist about being white?
Nooooo body can....make a lousy remake like Disney, cheaply sell out classic movies like Disney. No one insults fanbases like Disney or toss in stupid politics like Disney. They have the money to toss around and buy out other classics, no one else but Disney.
CWDTrixie could’nt said better
That was great! 😊
Live-action remakes are rubbish. I haven't watched Hermione's 'Beauty and the Beast' and holy shit, did I cringe at the scene at 5:46 . She just can't act.
It's almost as these people are told to say these things or they are just criminally ignorant about the projects they're working on.
It’s a good thing to have empowered female characters, but a strong woman can look like a lot of different things. I always loved Jasmine in the original!
Wait a minute, girls can be sultan! That's a gendered title! That's like if Elsa said she wanted to be a king, or if Simba wanted to become queen of the lions!
Feminist disney just doesn’t work
Just look at the princesses scenes in Wreck it ralph 2 with all their cringey feminist dialogue and making them all warriors all of a sudden ready to reduce Vanelope to dust (despite the fact all of them are strong in their own way, not just in fighting skills, but hey! If a girl can’t beat up 50 men alone sHe iS wEaK) (seriously, the only good thing about these scene is they are all together) or the one in Incredibles 2 from the villain (i don’t even remeber her name but gosh, her character in general was too cringey)
I don’t think I need to explain anything
You both don't know what feminism is. Google the definition of feminism. Being stupid and having stupid opinions about men is not feminism. Feminism is believing in rights of women (having no less rights than men) and empowering women.
Em S Ideally you'd be right, but actions speak louder than words. Feminism was great when it started, but now it's all about hating men and whining.
When I was in high school and started college, I considered myself a feminist because I wanted to be cool. But modern feminism only made me paranoid about guys and gave me a victim complex.
The feminist movement today doesn't care nearly enough about women in third world countries with no rights. The feminists are too busy crying because some dude on Rotten Tomatoes gave Captain Marvel a bad review.
There is nothing wrong with a woman needing help from a man, or falling in love with him. Very likely he needs her help, too.
I feel like wreck it ralph wasnt trying to be femenist , I think it was just disneys attempt in trying to be like Shrek
The only warrior princesses that existed were Mulan and Merida. And here's the thing: THAT'S OKAY. The others have great, strong traits; Snow White is caring and selfless, Cinderella is kind and patient, Jasmine is resourceful and independent, Belle is smart and curious, the list goes on. The fact that they get constantly painted as weak and shallow by so many people and even by these Disney remakes and meta shit in the later movies (esp. Frozen, aka "I'm Not Like Other Girls" the Disney animated feature). I never saw Wreck-It-Ralph II.
I'm a feminist, BTW, and I think these remakes and the meta shit comes off as more pandering than anything else.
Disney was "feminist" before it was cool just showing leading females characters going on an adventure "Alice in Wonderland" or simply having their own animated movie was a win back then even if the was the "usual" let's get a man story but Disney evolved after The Little Mermaid the princesses started going out on their own and having their own adventures instead of waiting to be rescued this was a HUGE change if you read fairytales where 9 time out of 10 the female is kinda useless and is just there to be saved and get married. Even though these stories ended with the princess getting her man the fact that SHE got outthere on her own is what made me love the 90's princesses so much. We don't need a change if SOME lonely feninazi's want a "strong" empowered female lead why not get Hollywood to pick up some of the kick ass comics and books that have these characters instead of trying to change classics that already have strong kicks ass females.
Remember that scene where Jasmine rips her dad, Jafar, and Aladdin a new one for “standing around deciding my fate like I’m some prize to be won!”
Yeah. Her entire character doesn’t really revolve around ‘finding a man’
Dalia is in there so the film passes the Bechdel test, since without Dalia Aladdin only has one female character. So yes, she’s very important, because without her this movie would not clear the arbitrary hurdles that movies have to clear now.
I’m surprised Beauty and the Beast made the incarnation of toxic masculinity into a nice guy, at least at the beginning.
The Bectle test is stupid men exist in the world of course you always talk about them.
Cathy Grandstaff Nope. An unnecessary change that defeats the purpose of Jasmine's isolation.
Will they have an unnecessary and unnatural conversation also, which is prohibited to mention Aladdin, her father or Jaafar? What will it be about?
"So...Dalia...what did you have for breakfast?"
"Oh, just the most delicious apple, and a slice of bread! Do you know we produce french baguettes even though we are in the fictitious Arabic country of Agrahaba?"
"Oh, how delightful!"
Luiz Soranco de Paula Sarchis - It’ll probably be about Rajah, no wait Rajah’s a boy (unless she’s a girl tiger in this version). Or maybe it’ll be about Jasmine’s recent escape into Agrabah, where she met the most interesting boy oops. Maybe they’ll vent about how the patriarchy doesn’t let women become Sultan and how all these younger princes are practically throwing themselves at Jasmine, oh wait. Yeah it’s probably going to be breakfast and the weather.
It pisses me off that they turned Bechdel test into a formula.
Princess Jasmine: When I am Queen I will have the power to get rid of you.
I personally don't think Will Smith as the genie is bad.
Robin Williams did an amazing job and created an iconic character, but his comedic style relied heavily on pop culture references that children today might not understand. Smith on the other hand uses farce comedy which doesn't really get outdated as easily, you just have to find his over-exaggerations funny. I really do want to see what he does with the role, but I feel like even he won't really make this film that enjoyable.
The best friend character for Jasmine however sounds absolutely awful. Disney wants to pander to little girls and their best friends, but what about girls who don't have a best friend? They're the ones that really need to see that they matter, that even princesses can be lonely and have trouble socializing, and if they're brave and try to get out there like OG Jasmine, they'll find someone. And that's not even mentioning that since Dahlia is the handmaiden, she's basically a friend that was handed to Jasmine and probably didn't have the option to NOT want to be her friend. Real-life friendships aren't like that.
@Elisa Castro In my opinion Will Smith doesn't have much trouble with spontaneity either, but I do enjoy him in most of his films, even the ones that didn't do too well at the box office so I have a bit of a bias. The only ones I didn't like were the ones he directed, so I guess he's just a shitty director.
I think he'll be okay as the genie, maybe even good, but Robin Williams is irreplaceable. I'm not expecting much from this movie.
They should have made genie a cgi carton character instead of will smith playing will smith. Robin Williams wasn't just playing himself, he truly was playing a character within the context of the story.
@@SuperGamerxl they should have not remade Aladdin
Well Robin Williams is unavailable
Elisa Castro UM WHAT?! Will smith has played very diverse roles. He’s a pretty great actor, & you definitely can’t just limit him to fresh prince lmao.
There was an episode of the Aladdin animated series called The Ethereal where an other- worldly being comes to judge Agrabah. Aladdin and Jasmine have to find the one thing that makes Agrabah special. Spoilers: Jasmine discovers it at the cost of her life. I think this episode shows better who Jasmine is and the strength she has then the new Disney remake with her wanting to be Sultan.
Jasmine wasn't wamen enough for Disney's woke practices these days.
Being woke or SJW doesn't have to do with this the issue is the story and presentation.
The fact that female characters always need to be 'empowered' is itself sexist. Aladdin wishes to become a prince only to get close to Jasmine, and then breaks his promise made to the genie for the same reason. So it's fine if a male character's only aim is to get the girl, but female characters are considered weak and shallow if they don't have other purposes in life? I cannot even imagine what they will do to poor Ariel when it will be her turn for a live-action version.
I'm glad I subscribed to your channel. You two really put alot of thoughts into your analysis video's. And it never feels like just you ranting for the sake of it. In regards to the movie, I have no doubt it will feel like a very different film from the original. That's just the way it is. Alot of these new writers seem to think they know better or just have something figured out. Time will tell. It may be good, I just hope that the love between Aladdin and Jasmine feels genuine.
Well, this is gonna be a hard pass for me now. I'm so sick of all these feminist versions of Disney Princesses. Enough is enough. I'm done
Oh boy if only the portraying was truly feminist to begin with and not a nasty cash grab scheme.
These feminist versions are insult to feminism. It truly pisses me off. Misconstruing what feminism is, though not as bad, is similar to blackface. Making people distaste it (people in blackface pov) without knowing what it is. The original Jaszmine was a feminist, I don't know what these directors were smoking. The original belle was also a feminist. It really grinds my gears.
They aren’t even feminists, they’re just rude to men.
The productive team fails to recognize they're feminist because they mainly ignore the sociopolitical background in where these movies were made, of course they won't acquire to nowadays feminism because society advances, but in their times, and heck even now, they're feminist, and ignoring it is dumb. Concepts change with time and is unnecessary this dumb changes to grab some easy cash
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The problem is the culture of generally looking down upon feminine energy and positivity. “Feminine” strengths like loving kindness, optimism, and gracefulness are regarded as weaknesses and undermined in favor of mean spirit, sass and physical force (aka physical and verbal violence). Disney princesses, at least the iconic, beloved ones, are not weak helpless damsels in distress that do nothing until they are saved. They are already strong female characters that refuse to lose will and hope despite unfavorable circumstances. And because they did their best with whatever was given to them, they are rewarded by the universe. That is very reflective of how it works in real life. Not everyone has the means and power to be “an independent character” who “fights” and “saves herself.” Sometimes you do need a breakthrough, a change in circumstances to help you. Sometimes the only thing you can do is just do your best in everything at the best of your abilities, don’t let the negative people around you take your spirit down, and treat others (esp those more vulnerable than you) with love, even if you were not extended the same courtesy. Then and only then, when one day the opportunity comes, you will be able to grab it and thrive.
I love how well made your points are. I quite agree.
The animated Aladdin series is a lost gem.
Same here, seen all 3 movies and the animated series. Really not interested in the live-action remake, much less any other live-action remake.
Like... a diamond in the rough? Lol I’ll leave now
They don't even show it in reruns anymore...anyone know if it's available on DVD?
You know what make the beauty and the beast thing worse, Gaston seemed nicer to her in the live action clip you showed us. Why is she so mean if he was being more pleasant? I agree with you so much.
I agree with you. But, tbh, Cinderella's 2015 live action is the only remake that I like.
I just don't go to these movies anymore after Beauty and the Beast. The movies have been horrible. They should fix their broken movies like Pocahontas, Song of South, and Black Coldren. Make these movies good and leave the classics alone.
James Haack Pocahontas has awesome animation, beautiful music, good voice acting...everything but a nuanced and respectful script.
They set out to explain why the English were wrong to exploit the land. They did this with a preachy environmentalist song - "Colors of the Wind" has a beautiful melody but the lyrics are a woke white liberal's idea of what Native American beliefs sound like.
Disney flubbed the Powhatans' portrayal too. For instance, they really did believe that the spirits of their loved ones stayed near their villages, inside the trees, to watch over them. But they didn't literally believe that those trees had faces and could talk to them. Grandmother Willow is basically an Entwife.
Also, the love story is rushed and the comic relief - Radcliffe and the animals' antics - doesn't go with the rest of the movie.
If you want to see a serious historical story done _really well_ as an animated musical, check out DreamWorks' _The Prince of Egypt_ .It is a wonderful retelling of the Biblical story of Moses with heart, depth, well-written and well-acted characters, stunning animation and epic music.
Polyhymnia Eh, the colors of the wind song was probably the most accurate. They had/have way more respect for nature and the circle of life than white pple ...
Jasmine having a friend is a cheep way to make this movie pass the Bechdel-test meassuring Female representation in fiction. To pass two named women must talk to each other and the conversation must be about something not to do with men.
Otherwise - why change Jasmines important lonelyness?
I think you guys should make video reviews of you reviewing the Disney remakes and comparing them to the originals bc I really liked this video!
I really don't understand why Disney feels the need to make some of their more recent princesses and heroines more "feminist," because many of them are already. If you compare Disney female leads from before the Second Wave feminist movement to those after, it's clear they were already trying to make them more "empowered." Ariel was a rebellious teenager who fell in love with a human despite her father's disapproval. Belle was a bookworm and an intellectual who didn't set out to find love but found it anyway. Gaston even chastises her (as you showed) for being more interested in books than in men while saying it's dangerous for women to read. This proves that Emma Watson never understood Belle as a character in the first place. Although the law required Jasmine to marry a prince within a certain time frame, she refused every one of her suitors and instead falls in love with the "street rat" Aladdin. And like with Ariel, Jasmine's failure to fit the norms of her surrounding culture cause tensions with her father. Modern feminism has changed Disney heroines much more than they seem to admit, which is why it makes no sense to rewrite them.
Ariel was a fantastic example of an empowered Princess. She gave up her voice for the one thing she wanted. Of course no girl is ever allowed to want love (from a man) anymore
To be honest jasmine was fine just the way she is there is no need to change her let alone be progressive and seriously belle was already a smart woman who read books and had common sense with a big heart and i could relate to belle when i was a 90's kid
A lot of folks who think (most) of the original Disney Princesses were weak female characters simply haven't seen these movies in several years
True, true. I saw Mulan and Mulan II months ago. And, I really do not like the second movie. The first one is okay, but it needs more work on the writing and the villain's motivation. Pocahontas I is just beautifully-animated. But, not a very-well written movie, in my opinion. Pocahontas II is much better-written in its' second act. But it needs better work on its' third act. Now, I just saw the original 1992 Aladdin movie, and it's still awesome. But, I am not even gonna bother watching the 2019 remake.
To be honest, I'm tired of these live action remakes. I want a good *original* animated family movie.
Really glad Dumbo was a flop. Hope that gives them a hint by now.
@@foodini666 Yes, it was. It has officially been called a flop.
I honestly think that whole 'Making it better' line is just an excuse to mercilessly milk their properties for all it's got.
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You speaking clear and with a logic comparison of subject, like you took two scenes form Beauty and the Beast, from movie and from cartoon.
I'm afraid to see what they're gonna do with Mulan
WOW dude you are so right! They did ruin Belle. I need to watch the old Belle movie. Its been soooo long.
The live-actions seem to be going downhill since Cinderella :'(
Jazmine's new unnecessary best friend makes me think of a certain song. It's Pinky and the Brain and Larry Pinky and the Brain and Larry one is a genius the other's insane The other one's Larry. Their Laboratory mice So is Larry. Their genes have been spliced along with Larry. Their Pinky and the Brain and Larry Brian and Larry Brian and Larry. Before each night is done Larry wake up. Their plain will be unvaild all 3 of them. By the dawning of the sun Larry likes the sun. Larry likes the sun. To take over the world Larry will help.
The only good live action “Aladdin” is starkid’s Twisted and I stand by that opinion
So true! I love the Princess's story arch in Twisted too. 😀
Honestly, ever since Disney decided to make money, for the sake of making money, I gave up on them. The company went from being something magical to something mundane and predictable. They have a whole bunch of men writing characters for young girls, that they take on the advice of the female actors who are in many ways, young girls themselves, and don’t see the complexities of what the original female characters had. Their strengths, cunning, desire, and yes even the need to be loved. There is nothing wrong with wanting a love interests. The thing is, if you look back on the first princesses, they longed for love due to their loneliness and solitude, but when their adventures started, the princes were simply there along the way, not the main concern. Disney has become a sound bite, and I’m truly saddened that to have watched it grow from something unique and wonderful, into something boring and incredibly patronising.
I think they are going to make the same mistakes, seeing how Distey is acting now. Maybe they are not going to make them, but I am hopelees.
“They don’t want it to be like the original.”
Then it will fail. It is as simple as that.
Great point about how in their efforts to empower women they ignored the agency present in the original character.
You see this problem with strong female characters. Supposedly enlightened folk look at them and all they can see is a stereotype, even when that stereotype isn't there. They simply assume it is - sort of "overlaying" the stereotype because that's what fits their narrative. You saw it a lot with Black Widow - while she was kicking ass and taking names, all critics could talk about was her tight-fitting uniform.
Ikr. These days people care so much about the underlying "message" behind a movie's characters, rather than caring about the actual story.
The problem with this is that the story should be the _backbone_ for symbolism and messages and themes. To rely on the most surface-level stereotypical "empowering" bullcrap to appease to a wider audience, without considering what you're doing to a movie's story, is just plain ignorant and awful.
Also I wholeheartedly agree with your example of Black Widow. And to add on to everything you said, why is Black Widow's outfit such a problem if literally EVERY OTHER HERO in the MCU wears skintight clothing, including the men?
And on top of that, BW is a spy and a fighter. Do people not understand how impractical it is to wear lose, baggy clothes in the middle of a fight? You'd be slowed down by drag, and even trip over your own fabric if you wear too much.
"It's like they didn't even see the movie."
That's because they didn't. They haven't seen any of these movies through except for snippets and scenes for whichever writer is working on said scene (and I'm sure they're are multiple writers). Honestly all these remakes can be skipped and you can just watch the originals.
Jasmine has always been my favorite princess, Aladdin and Jasmine have always been my favorite Disney couple. I am so scared for this movie but so excited for it. I love Beauty and the Beast ( and I have several "issues" with the live action abomination) and I went in to that movie wanting to love it. If they change Jasmine character like this...I'm going to cry!
Did you see what they've done to Scar in The Lion King remake?
The only bad thing there was not getting the original actor.
That, and his tacky new design.
Yes!!! First I'm like where is Scar. Then when I saw him ,I'm like thats him?! . Was disappointed
“Jasmine gets another friend” How annoying! I absolutely hate what’s going on here. Disney just looks back at a already polished painting and sees a “ mistake” their audience doesn’t see and tries to fix the “mistake” thinking they ought to make it better but nope, made it worse.
I believe they are remaking them to appease the feminist overlords that complained about the Princess' body types, and their so-called "reliance on men" BS that they are making these as a form of damage control, because body image is more important than story.
WANTS TO BE SULTAN?!
Nope. Nopenopenopenope.
#notmyjasmine
A woman can't be sultan anyway. That's just ridiculous. And rather insulting I'd imagine.
Everything you said about the original Jasmine was spot on, although I wish that she stayed single by the end of the movie, but at least she CHOSE to marry Aladdin, instead of being FORCED to marry him.
Curious, why dont you use 2 cat avatars? My girlfriend didnt even realise two people were talking till I pointed it out to her
Yes! Thank you! You nailed what I hated most about the live action Beauty and the Beast. I can't stand how they fundamentally changed Belle's character. Also they made the iconic gold ball gown look terrible. It didn't live up to the expectations set by the animated movie.
Lesson here is don't let an actress who hasn't acted in more then five major films (and no I'm not counting hp as 8 films coz thats just one character she plays) dictate how a major character like bell should be portrayed because she doesn't know anything about the genius writing behind it.
Jasmine being lonely is why she ran away what's the point if she has a friend