PL92T - Elizabeth LELIT Cappuccinos LATTE MILK
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- La macchina è efficiente, il tempo di riscaldamento è breve (circa 10/15 minuti), , LCC consente di impostare molti parametri.
TEMPERATURA CALDAIA CAFFE'
TEMPERATURA CALDAIA VAPORE ( FINO A 4 BAR )
TEMPO EROGAZIONE 1
TEMPO EROGAZIONE 2
PREINFUSIONE 1
PREINFUSIONE 2
CONTADOSI
Per ridurre la corrente (amperaggio), entrambe le caldaie vengono riscaldate consecutivamente.
Bollitore per caffè: 1200 W. Caldaia a vapore: 1000 W
Max. il consumo energetico simultaneo di 1250 W.
Caldaia caffe' in ottone da 300 ml
Caldaia a vapore in acciaio inossidabile da 600 ml
• Elizabeth PL92T: How i...
SOLD!!!
Finally, after months of contemplating back-and-forth between several brands, heat exchanger versus dual boiler etc., this made up my mind on the Elizabeth. 🖤🖤🖤🔥🔥🔥
What did you buy?
I asked Hoffman nicely to do a real world test like this, im still waiting. Congratulations. The most useful test ever👍🏽
Kinda mad that he makes it look soo easy 😂
Thanks, great video.
Very impressive, but I could never work like this because my puck is more wet and it is always sticking to the shower screen. I tried increasing and decreasing the dose. I tried grinding coarser and finder. I tried different beans. I cleaned everything. Nothing seems to help. This is so annoying that I would have bought another machine from Lelit if I had known that before. I bought the machine 1.5 months ago. Do you have any recommendations how I can fix this issue. Now where I watch this video I have hope.
if you don't solve the prblem you can try to thange the shower, you can install a competition shower with smaller holes
@@lelitinsider2977 thanks for the suggestion! Do you have a particular one in mind? On a website I read about IMS CI200IM/CI200NT/CI200TC/CI35WM being good ones, do you recommend one of them or another? I really appreciate your help!
@@oksako7932 yes, ruclips.net/video/nolSRWZP70o/видео.html
Getting cold.
At 9:06 the temperature is 96. After the end of the shot it is 86. Is it expected to drop this much ? 10°C ?
Regarding this model, the temperature sensor is positioned inside the boiler , so the the value change when cold water mixing with hot water.
on the display isn't referred to the temperature of the erogation., but the temperature detected to the temperature probe.
@@lelitinsider2977 So when I set a temperature with the PID, what am I setting?
@@didykongrace unknown
@@didykongrace Sounds like you're setting the boiler temp, but after the shot the boiler is refilling itself?
quanti gradi avete messo vapore per il latte?
Sono indeciso tra questa macchina e il Breville dual boiler, ma essendo Lelit made in italy forse meglio questa. Ho notato sul sito però che non ci sono sedi in Italia, spero ci sia un supporto nel caso ci fosse bisogno di assistenza e riparazioni
Is the Elizabeth a good choice for a machine for catering like up. To 50 cups an hour ans a maximum
as maximum yes, it can!
Bonjour je me suis abonné a vous .
Savez-vous s'ils vont sortir bientôt la V4 ???
hi! not at the moment
Why a 40'' extraction instead of the standard 25''?
con questa tipologia di arabica ho fatto una preinfusione a 3 bar di 8 secondi, quindi ho impostato un tempo di erogazione massima di 40 secondi. temperatura impostata 90° risultato in tazza eccellente!
@@lelitinsider2977 For those who don't understand Italian, he said something like "with this type of Arabica I made a pre-infusion at 3 bar of 8 seconds, then I set a maximum delivery time of 40 seconds. set temperature 90 ° excellent result in the cup!"
@@jm7720 but the brew boiler is set to 96º(not 90º as he says), and the service boiler at 145º, which in my opinion I think is way too high. Is that an 18, 20, 21, 22 basket to make two espressos?
Do you know if Victoria or Kate LCC will be upgraded to Elizabeth LCC (controllable preinfusion times etc)??
Sorry, elizabeth is different, use both boiler to do the preinfusion, victoria/kate dont is 2 boiler
@@lelitinsider2977 I know, but on Elizabeth you can disable steam boiler, what happens on preinfusion control then?
Anyway, controlling preinfusion times and watching real time temprature changes on the LCC display are irrelevant with having one or two boilers.
These two functions I mention above are super important and it's a deal breaker that Victoria and Kate don't have it!
Lelit should be able to offer it with a simple firmware update to these two machines..
I don’t think you understand how exactly the preinfusion works on the Elizabeth. It’s been 6 months so maybe you’ve seen the video from lelit explaining the entire system. It requires 2 boilers to function.
If you turn off the steam boiler on the Elizabeth preinfusion doesn’t work as
@@cman3465 Yes I understand, but on Victoria/Kate there is non programmable preinfusion. They could easily implement a system to let us control the duration of preinfusion. After market kits do this for other machines.
@@anstelios weird , just spoke to
Another grace owner saying that one could set the pre-infusion up to a certain period.
Is it allowed to use this machine in a cafe? Is this one mostly made either for home/an office or a cafe?
hi
elizabeth is perfect for home/office use,only for test we use it in a bar
@@lelitinsider2977 what do you think about it anyway? Let's assume that we put it in a small bar.
@@vladislavgeorgiev9494 we use it for make 30/40 coffee a day
@@vladislavgeorgiev9494 you have the
water tank, the problem is this!!
if filling the tank is not a problem for you it's ok
My unit during preinfusion only gets to 1 bar of pressure. Based on shot times, my grind size is good. Is something wrong?
the newesrt machine has less pressure, the boiler works better
@@lelitinsider2977 Thank you. I just pulled a killer shot. Seems to be working great.
Hello, I have a small art workshop. I have 20 students. 20 Espresso tops off, can it? Will I have problems after a few months? Over time the machine will no longer be a problem after a few months?
hi, if you need more information please send an email at care@lelit.com
The two with latte art at the end, are these Flat Whites?
Is the automatic dosing by time only instead of volume? Also is there a "manual mode" where it extracts until you stop it?
tou can set the time of the erogation, it is not volumetric, if you want you can stop when you press the botton
Could there be a nicer knob for the steam?
we have to improve our design!
@@lelitinsider2977 Agreed. It is a beautiful machine except for that cheap looking skinny plastic knob on the side. I still plan to buy one this week and hopefully I can upgrade the knob later. Thanks, Phil
@@PhilT993 thank you! it is true, infact some users change the knob...!
@@lelitinsider2977 how? do you have pictures or websites of wooden knobs?
@@tobiaskolb9011 sorry, I don't have any photos, you have to try to see in the forums
Ciao, meglio Anita con macinatore eintegrato oppure la sorella minore Anna senza macinatore, comprando il macinatore a parte? O non cambia nulla?
e' indifferente, anna+ pl043mmi grinder corrisponde ad anita, dipende dagli spazi in cucina e dalle esigenze
Davvero stupefatto della qualità della macchina e della lancia vapore oltre ovviamente all'evidente padronanza del mestiere , volevo però chiedere se la pressione d'estrazione è già settata di default sui 9 bar o su un altro valore considerando che spesso accedere all'opv per modificare l'estrazione non è semplicissimo. Grazie e complimenti. PS: si può sapere il nome della miscela usata ?
ciao
la valvola e' tarata tra' i 9 e 10bar,
il caffe' usato e' lavazza top class
@@lelitinsider2977 l'indicatore della pressione si attesta tra 10 e 11 bar, è normale?
Hi. I just purchased Lelit Elizabeth V3. My steam power is no where close to yours. If I get a large bubble (smaller than yours at 00:23), bubble floats on top. I'm no expert with latte art, but I'm no novice either. What should I look at??
Is it better now?
@@AzizIzgin why did you bought mara x and not elizabeth? I saw many comments from you while you where deciding between them. I have the same decision to make. Are you happy with marax or do you think that elizabeth would have been the better option?
@@oksako7932 Hello my coffee friend!
😊
You are absolutely right, I had my biggest anxiety while choosing between these two machines and I could not be happier with my decision.
The reason for this is quite simple actually… before I made my decision I was a bit scared that I would miss out on a Lott of features etc and the “glory of blooming pre infusion “ etc haha.
But when I realized that I’m real life you do not play around with settings etc all the time, when you get the perfect shot you stick with that setting.
More things is that you have to follow your heart, meaning that you want a machine that is joyful to work with and keeps you wanting more each morning when you wake up to do “the routine “.
Plus, it is built like a tank and will definitely hold much longer.
There are so many aspects that in the end made me pick this beautiful machine and I really don’t regret this.
Again , my decision maybe is not right for you but when you stand in front of these two machines, which one do you think you would get most joy from?
I mean really, forget about features 🙄😆.
Go with if you really want a counter” and digital buttons and want to tweak literally everything or if you rather want to enjoy the experience 😉.
Maybe you really are a person that likes to make back to back shots all day long and then I’d pick Elizabeth.
However, I still have no problem doing back to back shots either with the Mara… you just have to learn how she behaves.
Oh yeah, that was another issue I had… I really thought that Mara would not be able to keep up if I for example would to back to back 2 cappuccinos and two espressos… but this is no problem really.
Plus, if you later want to install a flow control unit you get endless of settings.
I hope I have contributed to some wisdom in your decision making 😊🙏🏻
Please let me know which one you pick.
If I had to pick one downside to this machine… then it would have to be the maintenance of the e61.
Once you find the right balance of how often you want to use detergent when doing back flush and without detergent it will be easier.
Have in mind to do more often flushes without detergent and the times you use it then use less so that it doesn’t degrease the internal components too much for easier maintenance.
Steam temparature maybe? 2 hole 4 hole?
Hello, @Lelitinsider, I just got my Elisabeth, When Ive drawn one shot, mach set att 95 degrees, the machine overshoots the temp to 100 degrees when its returning back to 95, then slowly starts dropping. Your machine seems to stay much better around set temp. Anything I can adjust? Thanks!
HI, i use Elizabeth, i've changed some pid paramenter, try to change KPc "0.1 and KDc 02, "try to use this value some days!
@@lelitinsider2977 thxs, I’ll try! I have v3 that is set at KPc 0,2 and KDc 10. Its seems like a big diff between 10 and 2?
@@patrik2294 Hej Patrik, hur går det med maskinen? Pratar du svenska?
Здравствуйте
Скажите какую температуру пара и экстракции кофе, вы рекомендуете настроить?
Ottimo caffè, peccato che nella composizione del cappuccino il caffè viene sbattuto perdendo l'intensità del marrone
How long it takes to get hot after you turn on the PL92T? 10,15,20 minutes?
15!
@@lelitinsider2977 and the lelit mara x ?
@@fikofikret1522 marax 24 minutes
@@lelitinsider2977 hmm if i like the mara x looks, is there other considerations or is it only the small difference in warm up time
@@fikofikret1522 elizabeth steam is strongher, and it have the lcc, marax is old style design with the classic e61
Is that the Fred grinder?
IT'S William PL72
Che "ricetta" usate per i vostri cappuccini? Cioè quanti grammi di polvere e quanti di liquido (e tazzina da quanti ml).
Buongiorno, per il caffe' usiamo 16-18gr, per erogare 30-40gr di caffe', le tazze usate sono da 190 cl per la cappuccino .e 270 cl. per la versione L
@@lelitinsider2977 questi valori sono riferiti a 2 espresso/cappuccini, quindi in tazza 15/20 gr di caffè per un cappuccino? (ho appena comprato la macchina)
@@nuovosalario dipende dalla tazza utilizzata, cm solitamente sono 30/35cl di latte nella lattiera da 50cl, e per l'espresso italiano 1 dose di caffe' 15-20gr
@@lelitinsider2977 io ho una tazza da 150/160ml e per adesso sto sperimentando con 15/20/25 grammi di caffè per cappuccino, anche se ancora non mi vengono dolci e saporiti come in molti bar (macinacaffé è Eureka Specialità). Vedo inoltre che la crema del Lavazza top class rimane persistente per parecchio tempo, anche se di solito non freschissimo. Al momento sto provando Lavazza gran riserva
@@nuovosalario per eseguire un cappuccino bisogna inizialmente estrarre un buon caffè, la grammatura nel filtro deve essere intorno ai 14/18g di macinato. una volta eseguito il caffè bisogna montare il latte, preferibilmente intero e freddo da frigo. la lancia deve essere posizionata a filo del latte così che il vapore si amalgami. detto questo bisogna versare il latte inclinando la tazza di circa 40° e versare senza avere fretta.
What internal setting did you use for that? KPc? and so on???
try to change KPc "0.1 and KDc 02, "try to use this value some days!
Che miscela avete usato? Io ho la lelit Anna e non mi riesce di ottenere un caffè così corposo. Alla massima macinatura il caffè non esce, con un grado maggiore non viene così cremoso e denso. Massima invidia
buonasera, abbiamo usato una miscela italiana 80%arabica, 20% robusta, importante pero' e' il setting del macinino
@@lelitinsider2977 ma il Lavazza top class non è 50 e 50? Così ho letto su un sito che lo vende almeno
@@lelitinsider2977 su Kate, con singola dose di 8g arrivo a sovraestrarre il caffe, con tempi di erogazione per 25ml superiori ai 30 secondi e caffè che gocciola, senza avere una crema simile. Usando una miscela artigianale all'80% arabica. Non ci riesco
@@ivantrs ha provato ad aprire la macinatura?
I have an Elizabeth V3. in your video when you press the coffee button the pump does not start and preinfusion goes to over 3 bar. in my machine pump starts for 1-2 seconds, and it barely goes up to 1,5bar , same with steam boiler off. why is my pressure so bad?
is it a v3 version?
@@lelitinsider2977 yes V3
@@alexoita2620 sway.office.com/S5J4d9Jp4Y9LdVFx
Settings that affect Bloom preinfusion
These settings directly control the pump run time prior to bloom preinfusion. Any
preinfusion time set in LCC includes the time in seconds for the pump run. e.g if BLP1 is 5
and button 1 is set for a 12 second preinfusion. The pump runs for 5 seconds and stops for
7 seconds. During the time the pump stops no pressure is applied and the coffee is left to
soak (bloom). This can extract extra and interesting flavours.
Note: you may opt for a lower value for a single basket and a higher value for
a double. If you use less than 4 you won’t get a great bloom phase. The
objective is to get the coffee puck perfused with some brew water before the
pump stops for the “bloom phase”
@@lelitinsider2977 Ok, so you support the LCC modifications recomended by Dave Corbey? Thanks
Sorry but no creama in this machine like e61 group head
e61 group is different value
@@cozma75 crema is not about the brew group but about the beans.
Awful latte art