i'd say dartling was already a top tier tower before, people just didn't notice yet. I used it for about a week before the buffs and it was already so good, it's basically only bad for moab type bloons, but there's fixes for that. Dartling was already insane and i'm glad it is part of the meta considering it has been my favorite tower for a long time
@@tingyang1061 that actually depends on the map because i could easily defend yellow bloons When I placed dartling in a spot where bloons can be hit twice, I defended it pretty simply
Considering that Universal XP is confirmed by the co creator to be coming in a future update, I think this hotfix was a really good direction for the game to go in
As someone who used dartling from red bloon camp to Moab Pit, I hope it doesn't get a nerf after this buff. I spent too much time using dartling as my sole late game tower
Dartling guns are kinda meta when it comes to destroying Rainbow rushes but it really lacks Moab popping power, i got matched by someone who used Dartling,Boomer, and village and lets just say the guy didn't picked the best Moab defence and rushed me with a fortified BAD as he dies to an AI Fortified Moab
It actually has great moab damage. Depends on when you csn get it up. I lose to r18 fortified moabs when I focus on eco. When I focus on defense, my plasma accelerator army can take down a r30 BAD.
Right now my main issue is the lack of variety in bloom sends, we saw it for he first time in btd6 but stacking bloons with no space between them is absurdly dangerous. There should be a stacked send modifier so we can send rushes like round 63 and 98, this will make middle game rushes with cerams, bfbs, and zomgs much more powerful and also help make late game FDDT and FBAD rushes a bit more dangerous.
There is a lot of variety in bloon sends, much more than in btdb 1. You have to watch out for zebras, purps, leads, and a camo modifier for all of them by round 11. Even Regrow rainbows by round 13. Then soon after, ceramic rushes. You can absolutely punish people for greeding with all the different rush options that they need to be ready for.
@@Skyjengi In addition to the variety in rushes, there's also a lot of variety in ecoing, because spaced bloons are more efficient than grouped bloons (but send slower), so there are multiple different eco strategies. In Battles 1 there was only 1 eco strategy that you would do every game. But Battles 2 has a lot more variety. I really like how they changed the bloon sends in Battles 2.
I know what they could do to implement 'Universal EXP', you earn it when you max out a tower, but it would be gained at a lower rate than if you would use the tower you would use the EXP on.
I was starting to hear Dartlings rising through the ranks and also maybe Tack Factory. Not too surprising for either of them, I would assume a MAD could destroy any rush if you have the cleanup.
Yeah I agree, the supply drop should've been nuked not the tower. It mightve been strong but it still got overwhelmed late game, but with the insane income it just turns into dark knight spam and F Bad spam and it's gg
I feel they need to do 2 things to sniper. Increase the base cost of the supply drop and either increase ability cooldown or lower the cash you from it. I lost a match earlier because a guy was able to buy a new sniper every single time he got an ability off. It took 4 of them and one cripple moab to take down 4 fortified ddts and I feel thats a bit strong for round 26 with him sending eco untill about round 4 or so.
@@phoenixisatree5527 It's pretty expensive to make middle path sniper destroy MOABs. If they go 2-4-0, they're weak against regrow rushes. If they go 0-4-2, lead w/ purple rushes tends to do well
Not really Dartling usually dies to mass regen bloons in my experience Even a couple dartlings can’t defend that Can’t say about most of the t3 t4 upgrades tho cause I’m broke
I used rocket pods alot before the update because it's just so good at dealing with 90% of the Bloons with just one, and if you get more you could start dealing with DDTs pretty easily
I love this update, I've been rocking Sub, Boomer, & Glue - moabs spell death, but the games never make it that far - I normally just have a reactor & 302 boomer & send a rush - sometimes boosted whites kill them after eco with grouped blues against this dartling players (Ceramic ^ 1 trophy from Moab pit & I'm too scared to enter)
@@destructivforce2894 Eh, I kinda wanna get AP darts instead - they were my favorite on 6 & I'm sure they'd be pretty good here - make some more use out of my sub instead of just reactor & one day it could be first strike too
@@mrcookiefries2896 Moab press will have viability up to r30 and AP darts probably won’t defend ddts’ either but you should enter Moab pit still I’ve never had a game go late game here yet
My buddy always uses the darling gunner whenever we duel each other, we're about the same skill level but he always kicks my ass because he uses it well.
@Fuel some people (like me sometimes) just don't say the "h" so it becomes "ello" so to make people recognize it means "hello" it is written/typed as "'ello"
I've reached Moab Pit with my off meta build. Dartling, plane and Farms/Glue. Working well so far, it was fun trying different combos that not many people use
Given the random projectile deviation on dartling gunners, I'd say it's only a matter of time until someone makes a dartlinggunner hack & terrorizes BTDB2 with it.
@@Toon.Hamstreak_658 If you’re caught hacking(which doesn’t take long at all) you will automatically be put in the hacker pool where you only face other hackers
My original team comp is obyn, Druid, ice, and wizard and now that I have all tier 4s, it’s been so much fun to play. Druid farming is a lot more fun than going sniper farming and 204 poplust Druid spam is incredibly effective against Moab and even fortified ddts (without needing to boost as well!). Been having a lot of fun going into round 30+ with this team.
The only thing I hate about this game is that you have to pretty much re-download the whole game (the full game is 350mb installed) everytime they make a a change. Why would you need a patch of over 250mb to change a few things? I play mobile games when I'm outside so I don't want to waste my data downloading the whole thing again that's nonsense.
@@LiewLmao Changing values its kilobytes of data, it's not adding new models or anything. And yes, when I'm at home I play on my computer or Xbox so I don't have that problem since I don't even play it at home.
tacks still run the new meta; build a blade shooter at the start and upgrade it to 0-4-2 by round 11 when rushes start coming through. lets you defend any mid game rush that normally overwhelms gatling gunners, and you can also sell and buyback/ build a second one to avoid being vulnerable in its cooldown
Dartling is completely broken on some maps, for example the one with the monkey statue in the center. Also the fact that i fought 10+ people in a row using dartling kinda tells me it might need a nerf. I mean, i thought the sniper meta was bad but at most id fight 2-3 in a row then have a break for a few games. But overall this update had a lot of great changes, im excited for the casual mode and xp from private matches
It's stupid to me how much the community cried about the tack shooter having 1 piece more, and nobody is complaining about darling being used every single game? What. The 2-0-3 tack is not usable anymore at all.
@@freshystyle part of the problem was the lack of tower XP. Tack was easily the best tower early on, and into mid game (typically lost to supers late game, but, well, strong early to mid game puts you in a really good late game position). And because tower XP was scarce, having something as powerful as tack shooter, esspecially at its early tiers, was annoying, because it was bassically the only thing you could reliably win with and get XP for. Now, with XP being more abundant, more people having gotten a decent amount of XP for at least some towers (letting you carry some weaker ones to get XP) it's less annoying having something be quite strong, as it doesn't feel as forced as using tack shooter was. Accentuating this is having bloon eco nerfed, as now having a farm type tower as your third is better, effectively nerfing tack alch decamo/village by proxy.
ive personally been using sniper tack quincy and ninja. works well for me. i have cripple moab and sticky bombs for dtd defense. a 230 tack start with quincy, then a sniper 220 until ifeel pressured or have 400 eco. upgrade to a bouncing bullet then some tack spam in preparance for moabs. strat works really well for me
I been using dartling gunner since the start and a tip is to use buckshot, it eats purple rushes and is much cheaper then the trashy hydro rocket pods if you pair the buckshot with something that slows or stuns the balloon your golden
I use sniper and the ninja square strategy as well as a dartling at the start. A bit different but i get the supply drop farming mid game for a better defense.
Yo I'm in lead doungen and my load out is Tack,druid, and boat and I've been using aircraft carrier and it seems pretty good with the planes. If u want u can try it out someday isab
dartling has always been good I swear man. Carried me hard, tryna find strats to kill bads tho.... cause MAD doesn't do shit. Spike dartling village is okay, but I need more xd. Tryna level up my bomb tower to moab eliminator to see if that does anything but idk anymore
engineer and ice is pretty underrated. Im currently using ice + engi + ninja with obyn (soon to unlock ocean) and it works amazing. Engi and ice for early game, and once you get bloon trap you make money off of enemy eco which gives you lots of opportunities to rush and defend. Once you get tier 5s late game sounds easy, with super brittle + grandmaster + shinobis + overclock
Yesterday I picked random towers and Isab killed me with a camgrow zebra rush lmao. it was my first game in zomg superdome and ofc its isab coming to destroy me
My current strategy is Boomer, Engie, Spactory. Glave ricochet, into foam at entrance, into Trap, into spiked balls, and if game lasts longer, spike storm. It's enough def to last until DDTs, but I usually win by then.
if you are on a computer instead of holding a to send red ballons you can press windows while holding a and then let go then you will automaticly send ballons
The best cross path is probably the 2-4-0 since it can pop leads, purples, camo variants, super ceramics and does good against MOABs. BFBs too with ability. It also aims quite precisely which means it has higher popping power overall in tracks like Glade, Docks and Dino Graveyard. However, 2-5-0 is good against MOAB class only. Super ceramics can get through easily.
The good thing about Dartling being meta is that it isn’t tack, it’s something different. The bad thing is that it’s so annoying to use. I am not a fan of micro for it.
Here's a tip for microing: click on a random spot on the map (where you don't have any towers), and hold down the left mouse button. Now when you drag the mouse, the dartling will follow the mouse, even if you aim right on top of your other towers. This guarantees that you can always aim exactly where you want, without other towers getting in the way.
The thing is I didn't read about what this update did and for a whole 30 minutes I was confused as fuck why I couldn't defend with a tack right off the bat
i have a question in the glade map the bloons were the player sended suppose to follow the red arrow but for some reason they decided to follow the white path instead the end being on the dark patch of grassline
Theres a red and green arrow following the main path which shows that bloom sends and regular spawns follow the regular path Maybe the second path is for moabs??
I’m not really good and in early arenas because I do not play a lot but I always win with a ninja tack spike factory plus Gwendolyn which can easily pop any ballon and stop any rush
Almost no one has a Tier 5 tower so there really is no reason to get more money for farms but when people start getting Tier 5s people will use them more
I made it to ceramic crucible today. I'm also on mobile so more difficulty. Also my load out is tack, alchemist, village with a 445 tack, 432 alchemist, and a 333 village.
You should try the druid. blowback + anti regrow. I have yet to try poplust and druid of the forest because of lack of xp. I've been using this in combo with the darling gun to keep bloons on the path that I've got HRP on.
The buff for the arenas is bad for everyone but people who are in lead ceramic or white which is where I am becuse people who are going down you get players like that to boost you up
im still addicted to my poplust druids lol. theyre certainly not top tier like tack was before the update, but theyre great under an MIB in late game. the only downside is the early game is a bit weak im super close to avatar of wrath, 20k exp away
You will be disappointed by avatar of wrath, it was already bad before the update yet they nerfed the damage from 32 to 28. It's really bad even with homeland, alch, or overclock. Trust me I've tried it several times it barely can defend a regular bad on long maps and it cant defend a fort bad and that was before the update so it's quite worse now
@@samplingrater8411 nothing can defend fortified bads reliably except master bomber, and thats because its bugged. ive defended fortified DDTs and ZOMGs before with buffs and a boost. also, what setup were you using, because AoW has incredible damage. im surprised you couldnt defend a regular bad
Ok so what if people start doing jungles bounty farms plus something like dartling guns. I dont know how well this will work but I feel like it may be worth a shot
Dartling guns are good until ZOMGs or BADs or DDTs they good early and mid game though. I got to high Moab pit with spike factory Dartling sub with only 3rd and 4th tier upgrades
I have to say, i cant help but feel like they killed this game by making you have to unlock towers with monkey money instead of xp. Now tower XP is literally completely useless and you have to play like 2000 games to unlock half the towers
Well, it's better than tacks for now I guess.
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playing anything except the meta in this game is nearly impossible
i'd say dartling was already a top tier tower before, people just didn't notice yet. I used it for about a week before the buffs and it was already so good, it's basically only bad for moab type bloons, but there's fixes for that. Dartling was already insane and i'm glad it is part of the meta considering it has been my favorite tower for a long time
yeah i’ve actually been running dartling since release
same
Hmm... I killed someone who only used dartling gunner with yellow bloons so I dunno if i agree.
use the top path 4th dartling and it destroys moabs easily any zomgs and if you have enough then BADs
@@tingyang1061 that actually depends on the map because i could easily defend yellow bloons When I placed dartling in a spot where bloons can be hit twice, I defended it pretty simply
Considering that Universal XP is confirmed by the co creator to be coming in a future update, I think this hotfix was a really good direction for the game to go in
not confirmed that was just a list of ideas
Universal xp sounds weird idk about that
@@3123-q2q no he said it’s a feature coming, the ideas were how to implement it
@@Logan9312 "Improvements and changes to the Tower XP system *might* include but not be limited to the following"
@@raymonlandry228 it was naive to expect people to not instantly read that as ‘confirmed’ honestly, even though they didn’t confirm it
As someone who used dartling from red bloon camp to Moab Pit, I hope it doesn't get a nerf after this buff. I spent too much time using dartling as my sole late game tower
same darling was the first tower i unlocked day 1 and i have almost all upgrades now, it is pretty good for just about everything now
I feel the same way
If dartling gets nerfed you will feel what sniper felt
What upgrades do you use for late game? Just wondering since I don’t have a good answer for ddts and I also use dartling
same
Top path tack finally has a use.
Mid path is finally no longer overshadowed by tack sprayer
Bottom path tack is now a pure Moab damage dealer
Use banana farm for much faster upgrading
Dartling guns are kinda meta when it comes to destroying Rainbow rushes but it really lacks Moab popping power, i got matched by someone who used Dartling,Boomer, and village and lets just say the guy didn't picked the best Moab defence and rushed me with a fortified BAD as he dies to an AI Fortified Moab
It actually has great moab damage. Depends on when you csn get it up. I lose to r18 fortified moabs when I focus on eco. When I focus on defense, my plasma accelerator army can take down a r30 BAD.
@@c001Ba30nDuD the guy didn't had Plasma Accelerators he just places 2 T3 Hydra rockets and spammed a couple of boomers
you guys are missing out on buckshot and B.A.D.S its actually busted, with 3 024 you can literally defend from 21 through 30
Well i forgot to mention i usually have village
@@pancy6260 Nah i believe in Boat Supremacy I'll probably Replace my 401 Wizard spam to a 203 Super Monkey spam soon to beat Bigger bloons
Dartling Guns are strong because they drink alot of milk. Drink milk, gamers. Your gaming bones will be strong.
Dartling guns is looking kinda THICC
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@@moksh5673 Beta 😝
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Thanks bro
Right now my main issue is the lack of variety in bloom sends, we saw it for he first time in btd6 but stacking bloons with no space between them is absurdly dangerous. There should be a stacked send modifier so we can send rushes like round 63 and 98, this will make middle game rushes with cerams, bfbs, and zomgs much more powerful and also help make late game FDDT and FBAD rushes a bit more dangerous.
Good idea but those dense rushes were originally in btd5
There is a lot of variety in bloon sends, much more than in btdb 1. You have to watch out for zebras, purps, leads, and a camo modifier for all of them by round 11. Even Regrow rainbows by round 13. Then soon after, ceramic rushes. You can absolutely punish people for greeding with all the different rush options that they need to be ready for.
@@Skyjengi In addition to the variety in rushes, there's also a lot of variety in ecoing, because spaced bloons are more efficient than grouped bloons (but send slower), so there are multiple different eco strategies. In Battles 1 there was only 1 eco strategy that you would do every game. But Battles 2 has a lot more variety. I really like how they changed the bloon sends in Battles 2.
little did he know that, that exact moment was the start of hell
I know what they could do to implement 'Universal EXP', you earn it when you max out a tower, but it would be gained at a lower rate than if you would use the tower you would use the EXP on.
wtf u predicted the future
I was starting to hear Dartlings rising through the ranks and also maybe Tack Factory. Not too surprising for either of them, I would assume a MAD could destroy any rush if you have the cleanup.
Spike Factory
MAD got a heavy damage nerf on release, so it might not be as good as you think.
@@freezeflame6565 Wouldn't care, just a thought really since I haven't tried yet.
Spactory is nuts
@@freezeflame6565 700 to 550 is ouch
Sniper being the best income is still super busted even after the nerf. It's better than farms and those have zero damage.
I kind of think they should have gone the other direction, keep it strong but increase the ability cooldown
Yeah I agree, the supply drop should've been nuked not the tower. It mightve been strong but it still got overwhelmed late game, but with the insane income it just turns into dark knight spam and F Bad spam and it's gg
I feel they need to do 2 things to sniper. Increase the base cost of the supply drop and either increase ability cooldown or lower the cash you from it. I lost a match earlier because a guy was able to buy a new sniper every single time he got an ability off. It took 4 of them and one cripple moab to take down 4 fortified ddts and I feel thats a bit strong for round 26 with him sending eco untill about round 4 or so.
@@phoenixisatree5527 It's pretty expensive to make middle path sniper destroy MOABs. If they go 2-4-0, they're weak against regrow rushes. If they go 0-4-2, lead w/ purple rushes tends to do well
@@phoenixisatree5527 the supply drop got nerfed with the price wym,
I think that blues actually give the eco they said so it may be just a visual bug
Proud of SJB for sticking with dartling gun, I've been also rocking dartling gun and it can defend DDTS but not BADs unless you have super monkey
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"Again, rico-shit if he sends yellows."
- ISAB, 2021
The darting gunner is gross. It's really, really good. It can beat any mid-game rush, cheaper than like 6k money.
its pretty busted even with only having 2-2-2, not to mention you get hydra rockets in like 3 games worth of exp
Not really
Dartling usually dies to mass regen bloons in my experience
Even a couple dartlings can’t defend that
Can’t say about most of the t3 t4 upgrades tho cause I’m broke
Well in my experience any 2nd tier darling dies on round 8
No. rocket pods eats shit to regrow rainbows
@@willw5868 rockets on round 8 wtf are you playing
I used rocket pods alot before the update because it's just so good at dealing with 90% of the Bloons with just one, and if you get more you could start dealing with DDTs pretty easily
I love this update, I've been rocking Sub, Boomer, & Glue - moabs spell death, but the games never make it that far - I normally just have a reactor & 302 boomer & send a rush - sometimes boosted whites kill them after eco with grouped blues against this dartling players
(Ceramic ^ 1 trophy from Moab pit & I'm too scared to enter)
if you can get moab press you should be able to handle moabs and a small amount of bfbs
@@destructivforce2894 Eh, I kinda wanna get AP darts instead - they were my favorite on 6 & I'm sure they'd be pretty good here - make some more use out of my sub instead of just reactor & one day it could be first strike too
@@mrcookiefries2896 Moab press will have viability up to r30 and AP darts probably won’t defend ddts’ either but you should enter Moab pit still I’ve never had a game go late game here yet
@@mrcookiefries2896 Unfortunately, bottom path sub is pretty bad in battles. They aren't good enough moab dps, especially not for r30.
boomer sub glue is now probably the best eco strategy, with super glue defending ddts it's almost unbeatable until r32
it was a whole 15 minutes it took between update release and me getting destroyed by hydra rocket pods twice
My buddy always uses the darling gunner whenever we duel each other, we're about the same skill level but he always kicks my ass because he uses it well.
'ello
@Fuel no, 'ello stands for "hello"
@Fuel some people (like me sometimes) just don't say the "h" so it becomes "ello" so to make people recognize it means "hello" it is written/typed as "'ello"
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I've reached Moab Pit with my off meta build. Dartling, plane and Farms/Glue. Working well so far, it was fun trying different combos that not many people use
Given the random projectile deviation on dartling gunners, I'd say it's only a matter of time until someone makes a dartlinggunner hack & terrorizes BTDB2 with it.
The hacker pool is a thing
@@TheLittleLeoP literally who
@@Toon.Hamstreak_658 If you’re caught hacking(which doesn’t take long at all) you will automatically be put in the hacker pool where you only face other hackers
@@firemin5398 actually genius
My original team comp is obyn, Druid, ice, and wizard and now that I have all tier 4s, it’s been so much fun to play. Druid farming is a lot more fun than going sniper farming and 204 poplust Druid spam is incredibly effective against Moab and even fortified ddts (without needing to boost as well!). Been having a lot of fun going into round 30+ with this team.
go 014 druid instead. lightning is super bad
@@robertmalone3667 I need 104 for ddt popping power, hard thorns give lead popping power (though yeah I should stop wasting 800 for the lightning)
The only thing I hate about this game is that you have to pretty much re-download the whole game (the full game is 350mb installed) everytime they make a a change. Why would you need a patch of over 250mb to change a few things? I play mobile games when I'm outside so I don't want to waste my data downloading the whole thing again that's nonsense.
“Change a few things”
Lol
It seems more like a you problem that you update the games only when you’re outside
@@LiewLmao Changing values its kilobytes of data, it's not adding new models or anything. And yes, when I'm at home I play on my computer or Xbox so I don't have that problem since I don't even play it at home.
I love the bloon buffs more than any other changes. Makes mid game rush strats feel so good
Rip Isab not knowing it’s a visual glitch blues do give 1.3 now
I've used dartling since day 1, and I believe moab press's on a bloon area denial system defends a fortified zomg
tacks still run the new meta; build a blade shooter at the start and upgrade it to 0-4-2 by round 11 when rushes start coming through. lets you defend any mid game rush that normally overwhelms gatling gunners, and you can also sell and buyback/ build a second one to avoid being vulnerable in its cooldown
Coincidentally I was using it before, It’s got the most xp with me having all tier 3’s
Dartling is completely broken on some maps, for example the one with the monkey statue in the center. Also the fact that i fought 10+ people in a row using dartling kinda tells me it might need a nerf. I mean, i thought the sniper meta was bad but at most id fight 2-3 in a row then have a break for a few games. But overall this update had a lot of great changes, im excited for the casual mode and xp from private matches
It's stupid to me how much the community cried about the tack shooter having 1 piece more, and nobody is complaining about darling being used every single game? What. The 2-0-3 tack is not usable anymore at all.
@@freshystyle part of the problem was the lack of tower XP. Tack was easily the best tower early on, and into mid game (typically lost to supers late game, but, well, strong early to mid game puts you in a really good late game position). And because tower XP was scarce, having something as powerful as tack shooter, esspecially at its early tiers, was annoying, because it was bassically the only thing you could reliably win with and get XP for.
Now, with XP being more abundant, more people having gotten a decent amount of XP for at least some towers (letting you carry some weaker ones to get XP) it's less annoying having something be quite strong, as it doesn't feel as forced as using tack shooter was. Accentuating this is having bloon eco nerfed, as now having a farm type tower as your third is better, effectively nerfing tack alch decamo/village by proxy.
ive personally been using sniper tack quincy and ninja. works well for me. i have cripple moab and sticky bombs for dtd defense. a 230 tack start with quincy, then a sniper 220 until ifeel pressured or have 400 eco. upgrade to a bouncing bullet then some tack spam in preparance for moabs. strat works really well for me
People explaining how taking 111111 hours is perfect compared to 333333 hours to unlock all upgrades:
I been using dartling gunner since the start and a tip is to use buckshot, it eats purple rushes and is much cheaper then the trashy hydro rocket pods if you pair the buckshot with something that slows or stuns the balloon your golden
Buckshot with a knockback super/dark knight, maybe?
I use sniper and the ninja square strategy as well as a dartling at the start. A bit different but i get the supply drop farming mid game for a better defense.
Destroying tack users who can’t seem to think of anything but tack sprayer into overdrive is so much fun
You should get to max out a tower if you get to hall of masters or let you give 3 tier 3, 4, and 5 upgrades to any tower
Yo I'm in lead doungen and my load out is Tack,druid, and boat and I've been using aircraft carrier and it seems pretty good with the planes. If u want u can try it out someday isab
dartling has always been good I swear man. Carried me hard, tryna find strats to kill bads tho.... cause MAD doesn't do shit. Spike dartling village is okay, but I need more xd. Tryna level up my bomb tower to moab eliminator to see if that does anything but idk anymore
engineer and ice is pretty underrated. Im currently using ice + engi + ninja with obyn (soon to unlock ocean) and it works amazing. Engi and ice for early game, and once you get bloon trap you make money off of enemy eco which gives you lots of opportunities to rush and defend. Once you get tier 5s late game sounds easy, with super brittle + grandmaster + shinobis + overclock
Interesting strategy
@@appalacha7278 but to grindy
Ocean is worse than normal. His only redeeming quality is buffing non druid magics sooner and you don't use ninjas early.
@@WingedEspeon ocean obyn also has better trees
The 2 - 3 - 0 dartling monkey is way too broken
Yesterday I picked random towers and Isab killed me with a camgrow zebra rush lmao. it was my first game in zomg superdome and ofc its isab coming to destroy me
My current strategy is Boomer, Engie, Spactory.
Glave ricochet, into foam at entrance, into Trap, into spiked balls, and if game lasts longer, spike storm.
It's enough def to last until DDTs, but I usually win by then.
It says that blue have 1.5 eco but they actually give 1.3 just a visual bug
It isn't. I watch him send blues in slow mo and it alternates eco going up by 1 and 2.
@@WingedEspeon and if it did give him 1.5 he would be getting 3 eco no?
@@prototyp3k236 no. He would get alternating 1 and 2 b/c rounding.
if you are on a computer instead of holding a to send red ballons you can press windows while holding a and then let go then you will automaticly send ballons
If you played BTD5 with nothing but dartlings (specifically laser cannons) it was pretty OP.
The Hero alts are better then the normal heros, for example Ocean obyn gives his Buff to all magic monkeys, not just druids
The best cross path is probably the 2-4-0 since it can pop leads, purples, camo variants, super ceramics and does good against MOABs. BFBs too with ability. It also aims quite precisely which means it has higher popping power overall in tracks like Glade, Docks and Dino Graveyard.
However, 2-5-0 is good against MOAB class only. Super ceramics can get through easily.
Yeah M.A.D is really bad at super ceramics
It loses all of its attack speed
The good thing about Dartling being meta is that it isn’t tack, it’s something different. The bad thing is that it’s so annoying to use. I am not a fan of micro for it.
I think without universal XP you're just always going to end up with a single tower being super meta, and it'll be whatever is easiest to grind for.
Oh boy... I lost to so... many... games... just because my damn gunners didn't aim the spot I targetted because I was hovering over a tower.
Here's a tip for microing: click on a random spot on the map (where you don't have any towers), and hold down the left mouse button. Now when you drag the mouse, the dartling will follow the mouse, even if you aim right on top of your other towers. This guarantees that you can always aim exactly where you want, without other towers getting in the way.
I think glade is actually the hardest map because of moabs. Ddts can literally fly past your screen faster than you can use most abilities
"Homeland Defense initial cooldown 0s --> 5s"
Me who didn't unlocked the path yet because of not buying VIP Mode to get more XP: PAIN
I got turtle micro
So I use darling.
Hydra rocket is amazing Apparantly
Laser Cannons destroy regen rainbows too
The thing is I didn't read about what this update did and for a whole 30 minutes I was confused as fuck why I couldn't defend with a tack right off the bat
i have a question in the glade map the bloons were the player sended suppose to follow the red arrow but for some reason they decided to follow the white path instead the end being on the dark patch of grassline
Theres a red and green arrow following the main path which shows that bloom sends and regular spawns follow the regular path
Maybe the second path is for moabs??
Only moabs come out of that path
I was just testing dart boomer ninja but I didn't even think of perma blue sends, guess I know how to play the Strat now though
They did nerf blues cause now every 2 blues your eco does not increase by 3
Woah- actually genius, I've used this as a strat for a few times
Try obyn, druid, sniper, super
Finding a dartling gunner user is basically an ez win for me cuz they never seems to have good moab defense
Mortar is kinda awesome ngl.
Dartling is my favourite so hearing that it's buffed is nice
when the big plane uploads
me:SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH 😎👍
right now dartling is amazing early mid and late game
I'm in white wasteland and I haven't noticed a significant XP bonus
I just started and accidentally used all my xp on laser gun and the bombs on it didn’t realise I should only get one
Me who started dartling instead of tack/boat/super: I am 4 parallel universes ahead of you
They should just make the Arena xp buff stack
I’m not really good and in early arenas because I do not play a lot but I always win with a ninja tack spike factory plus Gwendolyn which can easily pop any ballon and stop any rush
3 pierce per dart from a Dartling Gunner? That’s a lot of popping!
My old loadout had Dartling gunner it was really Good but Kinda meh For moab type class
How do chests work in this Game? Is it purely rng based what chest i get and are the 35point chests eben worth opening?
Almost no one has a Tier 5 tower so there really is no reason to get more money for farms but when people start getting Tier 5s people will use them more
I just started the game and I’ve almost maxed my dartling and sniper
I made it to ceramic crucible today.
I'm also on mobile so more difficulty.
Also my load out is tack, alchemist, village with a 445 tack, 432 alchemist, and a 333 village.
Somone tell me HOW IS HE SENDING BALLONS WHILE HIS CURSOR IS UPGRADING HIS TOWER LIKE WUT
You can auto send balloons if you have the steam version
My loadout was tack, sub, and wizard. With the nerfs I havnt been able to win a single game
F for my Tack Sniper strat.
You should try the druid. blowback + anti regrow. I have yet to try poplust and druid of the forest because of lack of xp.
I've been using this in combo with the darling gun to keep bloons on the path that I've got HRP on.
druid of the jungle only pops a single non moab class bloon, no aftervine on the ground
Oh damn you're at the ZOMG Superdome now
SABO DIFF
that last game is goooood
The round 13 regrow rainbow rush is back
*oh no*
The buff for the arenas is bad for everyone but people who are in lead ceramic or white which is where I am becuse people who are going down you get players like that to boost you up
I’ve been using startling for the past week to try and be anti meta and now it’s meta damnit
im still addicted to my poplust druids lol. theyre certainly not top tier like tack was before the update, but theyre great under an MIB in late game. the only downside is the early game is a bit weak im super close to avatar of wrath, 20k exp away
You will be disappointed by avatar of wrath, it was already bad before the update yet they nerfed the damage from 32 to 28. It's really bad even with homeland, alch, or overclock. Trust me I've tried it several times it barely can defend a regular bad on long maps and it cant defend a fort bad and that was before the update so it's quite worse now
@@samplingrater8411 nothing can defend fortified bads reliably except master bomber, and thats because its bugged. ive defended fortified DDTs and ZOMGs before with buffs and a boost. also, what setup were you using, because AoW has incredible damage. im surprised you couldnt defend a regular bad
The thing is I’ve used the dartling since the release of btd battles 2 and I’ve invested so much into their upgrades I hope they don’t get nerfer
I think revertingnsome of the buffs would be good. They were good enough for you to use pre buff so that is not too harsh a nerd.
@@WingedEspeon true
2:18 did that buccaneer on the bottom shoot a grape?
lol
Blue eco is not broken because it is meant to be 1.3 and not 1.5 but thats just visual
Nevermind
I'm using Ninja, Ice, Dartling and I have been getting consistent wins
Dartling gun’s reign of terror is finally over 🙏
Let’s see if this game slowly becomes battles 1 and farms become necessary
Ok so what if people start doing jungles bounty farms plus something like dartling guns. I dont know how well this will work but I feel like it may be worth a shot
0-2-3 dartling is overpowered, no normal bloon can pass it it's the new reactor. You can't rush it.
I wonder if I could try a mix of dartling, sniper, and village.
How do you spam bloons while upgrading towers?
caltrop spam is decent moab power
Boosted Grouped Purples are so hard to defend now
I looked at the Hall of Masters board, and there is a Non-VIP player there
should i get rocket storm or plasma accelerator
Dartling guns are good until ZOMGs or BADs or DDTs they good early and mid game though. I got to high Moab pit with spike factory Dartling sub with only 3rd and 4th tier upgrades
They should decent vs bads with mad.
Isn't there also boomer ability for when you need a burst of defense? Or not that useful yet?
I have to say, i cant help but feel like they killed this game by making you have to unlock towers with monkey money instead of xp. Now tower XP is literally completely useless and you have to play like 2000 games to unlock half the towers
I thought ahead of time I already have plasma accelerator and rest tier three