Is Disney Killing Pixar?
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Despite unbridled success since it began, Pixar has struggled in recent years with releases underperforming at the box office and failing to have similar cultural impacts. So what's going wrong? Is the House of Mouse killing one of its prized assets?
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I think that the biggest thing for me is that it just doesn’t feel like Pixar anymore. I used to be able to distinguish a Pixar movie from a Disney movie just by vibes alone, but nowadays the difference doesn’t really exist anymore. If you would tell me that every one of them since Toy Story 4 was secretly made in a Disney Studio I could probably be convinced.
I didn't even know Disney made non-pixar movies.
You equally say that about every film prior to Toy Story 4. Beyond 3D animation and an exaggerated art style, Pixar has no definitive 'style'.
Soul was the last Pixar movie I watched, I believe every Pixar movie after that was mid, Turning Red confirmed this opinion for me
Storytelling wise Disney and Pixar are different, Disney films are like a grand musical adventure heavily relying on humour, and Pixar films are more of a realistic raw buddy adventure. Animation wise however aside from a few exceptions they are both mostly the same.
Agreed
I feel like it is a disney problem, they get their hands on these studios and about 5 years later you see a decline
Like Activision or EA and games. Soon as they own another studio it ceases to be good.
too many sequels, followed by originals that confuse audiences and are poorly marketed
To many live action movies that try to cater based on nostalgia but add nothing new on top of it
Pretty much most of Pixar’s problems stem from Disney corporate meddling and reputation throughout the years. By literally treating animation as a side project, dump Pixar’s films onto Disney + which alienated their audience, Pixar reputation started to look bad as more people started to hate Disney, milk Pixar’s Toy Story franchise to death and the list goes on.
@marshalmarrs3269 shouldn’t?
@marshalmarrs3269 you’re welcome
If we know it's coming to D+ why go to a theater with kids. It's so much cheaper to do it up at home with a family than anything else.
Pixar should be spun off from Disney
Everything Disney touch is dying.
It's because the MBAs have got hold of it and, like every creative thing they touch, they try to wring every last drop of profit out of it until it's no longer breathing.
Unfortunately you are completely correct due to Pixar movies coming out on Disney plus I have now no intentions of going to a cinema for something that will be out on streaming later on.
Growing up a Pixar release definitely felt like an event. Not so much anymore. I remember when the first toy story came out.
and then the pandemic and Disney killed off that event
Going to the cinema was the event, really. Over lockdown Disney pushed hard for the streaming releases of movies and people have got used to being able to get that a part of the package. They might go to the cinema for other less accessible movies and just wait for Disney ones to appear on their streams.
7:22 People complain about all the waste (fully rendered scenes being scrapped for a change in the script) in the production of Across the Spiderverse, yet it still was less than half as expensive as a Pixar film.
Bring back John Lasseter. He understood the magic formula better than anyone else.
I think a good part of the problem is that Disney has such a bad reputation now, that there’s a knee jerk reaction to anything coming from them.
And that can affect ticket sales.
Why go to watch a Disney-owned movie at a cinema when already paying a Disney+ subscription, and you can just wait a bit longer and see it for no extra charge? The only incentive to go to the cinema is to see something on the big screen, and given that televisions and sound systems at home are much bigger and better nowadays, why bother? Disney+ is killing their cinema releases.
Elemental had a good premise. And, I can relate being an immigrant that fought tradition to follow my own path. But, its execution was average at best. And, it’s marketing ( or lack thereof) really held it back.
Let’s hope a sequel could fix up the execution.
Yeh but you drag politics and identify into what should be family films... you just ruin them. There are serious films for serious topics, and that's fine, but they should be kept separate.
@@phooogleWhat is it that you believe makes talking about identity and something being a family film mutually exclusive?
Just interested, not looking to drag your opinion over the coals.
@@davidjennings2179 Because they almost invariably get ruined by it. I thought that was pretty much case in point when mentioned in the video. People want entertainment not to be embroiled in discussions by polar opposite Twitter loons.
@@phooogle Could you be more specific? Is there something in particular you feel ruins it?
I have to admit I'd never heard of Elemental until you guys last mentioned it, and I use Disney+ most days. I thought it was pretty good and enjoyed it.
Funny because in some places, you can't show hearing about it and in others you'll barely heard about.
I hadn't heard of it till it came to D+.
You said 48.4 but it said 484 million
simple editing mistake, alongside the graphic showing $226.4 instead of $226.4M
@@omegamezleTLDR can't make a video without some factual error, misspelling in the graphics, or audio and video disagreeing. Usually multiple errors in each. Clearly no QC is being done. Just have someone watch it before uploading, and fix the glaring errors if you spot them.
Also $226M at box office would not have made up production budget of $200M, but instead left Pixar $80M to $100M short. This shoddy math makes all the statistical analysis of the Disney going Woke video meaningless, as many movies TLDR analyses would have actually lost money not made it, or broke even, so the fitted slope was way off, and thus so were the conclusion, as if it is garbage in, then inevitably it is garbage out, as statistical analysis won't help with incorrect data.
Well one of the reason is that "Let's take this type of object or abstract concept and anthropomorphize it" got really stale after a while. Also, the tech just isn't nearly as impressive as in the 90s and 2000s. Finally, in my humble opinion, some of the more famous Pixar movies are really basing their success on a small part of the movie (the first act) with the rest not being nearly as good or interesting. Once you figure that out their earlier works seem overhyped.
so they never were good we were just fooled 15 times on a row
@@burgermind802 Shiny new CGI was almost impressive until everyone else can do it. And not base their movies on 90 minutes of stretched out Disney shorts.
Disney/Pixar still makes some of the best looking animated films. Toy Story 4, Frozen 2, and Elemental look way better than most movies from other studios.
Some studios (e.g. Sony) have started adopting a different visual style because they know that no studio can pull off the Pixar style as well as Disney and Pixar can, just as Disney and Pixar know that no studio can make heavily stylised films look as good as Sony can.
@me-myself-i787 No, it's because we're all tired of the Disney/Pixar style, but only Disney/Pixar haven't got the memo. Their style hasn't really evolved in decades. It's the same old doughy, round eyes style it's been forever.
The only two movies that i think have a good first and second act are toy story 1 and monsters. However for coco the first act is awful and the second act is the best. The third act is awful as well. The issue if that second act is really good so even though i know most of the movie is bad I still enjoy it because of how good that second act was
Part of the problem is that Pixar just hasn't evolved. Yes, they blazed the trail for 3D animation with Toy Story, but that was almost 30 years ago. Here's an example: Pixar movies rarely have proper villains. Yes, there are antagonistic forces, but the only villains with an evil plan I can really think of are Syndrome and Lotso. Few twist villains, like the one in Incredibles 2 whose name I can't even remember, but no great villains. And Puss in Boots felt so refreshing to have a proper villain again in Death, who is genuinely scary, and doesn't hide his motivation.
That lack of evolution extends to the animation too. Yes, the fidelity has increased, and Pixar finally cracked the human face with The Incredibles, but they are no longer the gold standard. Into the Spider-Verse is now the high water mark to aim for, again, Puss in Boots looks like a mix of that and Arcane.
Hopefully with Elio they might bring back villians.
Funny thing about Elemental is that original plan for it was to have a villian for the film but scrap it because every idea they had with a villian turn Elemental into a superhero film. (Hopefully if they do decide to make a sequel they add a villian to the story)
I'm surprised you didn't mention Stinky Pete and Mr Waternoose. Those are also great villains.
I wouldn't really count either of them as villains. Same goes for characters like Anton Ego and Sid from the first Toy Story. They're antagonistic forces, in that their goals are contrary to those of the main characters, but that doesn't automatically make them villains. The difference is pretty subtle.@@me-myself-i787
Same with Randall and Hopper, they are pretty evil and cool IMO@@me-myself-i787
Turning Red and Soul were both really good films, they deserved a proper release.
Could have been a success if disney and the pandemic didn't threw a wrench in their plans.
And luca
Elementals is actually a pretty great story. Never heard of it before the release tho. Marketing seems to be inexistant
Never understood this, cause I saw it absolutely everywhere, which is corroborated by the fact that they had spent over $100 million in marketing alone
I saw it once on a bus during a visit to Sweden
@@moonshineididn’t see any marketing for it at all
Here in the UK I've seen absolutely tons of advertising for it
Disney NEVER should have continued to put Pixar movies on D+, especially without the premium status. Makes their films feel like they're not meant to be seen in theaters. Even if the quality were up to 2000s standards, I still think it wouldn't make a difference.
Please make a video about the WGA contract/agreement and how/why it works for both sides.
I’m really into animation. It’s about the only thing I choose to watch (I watch live action with friends/family who don’t care for animation). I used to be a big fan of Pixar, and thought of them as the best (American) animation studio. That started to shift these past couple years. I haven’t watched their 3 latest movies, because they just look _bad_ . It’s really disappointing, because I want to see them succeed. :/
_Coco_ and _Soul_ did seem to be products of a conscious push for diversity. But they were still works-of-art with the kind of left-field high-concept style I've always loved about Pixar. Whereas _Turning Red_ and _Lightyear_ just felt kind-of lackluster and annoying, like all the other modern Disney movies I don't care about.
Agreed that Coco was a fine film. I haven’t seen Soul.
I'm not excusing his _"I'm a hugger"_ behaviour but - John Lasseter had a very steady hand on the tiller. Having said that, "Luck" was a train wreck.
Yes , you are. He was a rapist.
Honestly ever since the Pandemic hit, Pixar wasn’t able to fully recover from it, sure they do show signs of recovery but that’s a long way to go.
I think one key aspect you left out of your analysis on why Pixar films are expensive has its roots one one of the company's original core values: push 3D animation technology further. For instance, "Monsters Inc." developed new tools for fur, "The Incredibles" for fabrics, and "Up" for the procedurally generated movement of the balloons.
On the other hand, Illumination and Dreamworks tend to work with more from the "out-of-the-regular-toolbox" kind of tech.
Definitely, I don't even remember when was the last time I went to the theater to see a Pixar movie
I don't remember the last I've been to the theater
Toy Story 4 was the last for me. And it was a forgettable film.
@@olafsigursons Sad.
i havent even seen a pixar movie in theaters for 10 YEARS now, my last one was monsters university
chris meledandri is one of the underapreciated business geniuses of our era.
We have similar problems as with other creative conten - the market is saturated with music, film and books. We have decades - centuries of incredible content on tap. I can barely keep up with the output of artists I was following 20 years ago let alone wade through 10x as many new artists, _and_ still enjoy all the old stuff I bought.
Combine that with economic hardships for many people who are being asked to pay for a zillion streaming options and the prospects are not pretty.
Anyone notice that the thumbnail switched from an earlier one with Woody in a pool of blood?
Guess YT didn't like that.
Personally, I don’t think Pixar being “woke” or “diverse” ruined them because none of their films made it oblivious and it didn’t bother me to be honest, it was the pandemic and Disney corporate meddling that prevented them Pixar’s films from being successful.
While I don’t think being “woke” is causing the downfall, the way they address issues is. Older Pixar films had an underlying message, but usually only in a way that a teenager or adult would understand. Kids were just caught up in the magic of the story.
Now, the message is very on the nose, with no need for interpretation. It comes off as preachy.
For me personally, I don’t care to take my kids to a movie that preaches identity politics. Just write a fun movie with a creative story, and leave the message for the those of us old enough to understand
@@nicholasgmatthews Personally, as a non Western person who is basically raised with Disney films, they just don't feel universal anymore.
Even though basically all old Disney films were set in Western countries, the themes of friends and compassion and family always felt universal regardless of what race the characters were (or if they were human at all) and that's why I loved them for it. Now everyone has to be quirky, they all need to have marvel level dialogue, all to be drawn in a corporate art style, and everything needs to be oversaturated.
Idk its just not impactful anymore, I don't have the feelings when I first watched Ratatouille when I was 9 when I watch a new Pixar movie.
I think some of the sequels were just weak, some of the originals just didn't have obvious hooks, and Soul was not for kids.
Disney and Pixar films used to have a level of prestige and quality to them back in the day, which is lost now with their blatant attempt for quick money via their remakes and sequel reliance. It’s left a bad taste in the public’s mouth now, as the messaging seems to come from some condescending place.
@@Adv18 agreed it feels like the people running Disney don't respect the audience and don't actually like their own products.
John Lasseter, nuff said 🙈
Soul and Turning Red was just absolutely amazing. They should of waited to be release in the big screen!
Disney is killing cinema.
Didn’t Elemental was more of a story of immigration and finding out your place in the world ? I mean the director did say that in the interviews that Elemental was not marketed properly. So shouldn’t that count a bit ?
Well yeah that is part of the problem, but we are taking about the main points of Pixar's death.
The thumbnail is so dramatic lol
Releasing Pixar, Marvel and Star Wars content first run on Disney+ was a mistake.
Just another case of a big company taking the uniqueness out of art
It's really just Disney's grubby paws.
Their spending on animation is insane almost 300 million for a animated movie and get less then that is psychopath behavior. After doing that like 6 times you might wanna change.
Things started to go downhill when Lasseter resigned and they started shoehorning in new writers and less experimental stories a uncreative woke targets. Thats how you slowly kill a brand.
I think the other thing is that people are now waiting for it to hit streaming platforms rather than going out and spending a fortune at the theater....
Disney is done in general.
For all those Disney stans out there; barely breaking even is NOT a victory for Elemental. Yes, it had more legs than we all thought it would, but seeing as how it made a disproportionate amount of its money very late into its run, it almost certainly lost money for Disney. Remember, the share the theaters take is bigger with each passing week after release, so by the end, most of the money goes to the theaters, not to Disney.
I think the bigger issue with Pixar is complacency and lack of drive. PIxar has taken their attention to detail to focusing on rendering hair and water to be super realistic without considering what it brings to the movie. Pixar make gorgeous movies but that is no longer that hard to do. It is telling that the best animated films of this year (puss and boots, ninja turtles and spiderverse) all utilize more dynamic and stylistic styles over the Pixar style. Not only that but these other movies are made cheaper than the bloated Pixar budgets.
Simply put, Pixar has gone from plucky underdogs to the establishment and now there is a generation of animators who want to challenge that establishment in new and creative ways.
Have you taken some footages from Company Man?
Family movies in general are struggling at the theatres and that’s mostly because of streaming. The last 2 years people got them for free and are now willing to wait till it hits streaming. Movies like Super Mario was the exception because Mario appealed to a broader audience so not just families turned out to see it. Trolls 3 will be the next test as they are hoping people will turn out to see *NSYNC reunited for the first time in decades.
Disney is absolutely killing Pixar but I think even if Disney never bought Pixar, it would died an earlier death quite like Don Bluth Productions.
All good things must come to an end.
Correction, disney already killed pixar
and Star Wars etc. etc. etc.
tl;dr business just out here assembling the ultimate 2023 Disney Failure Supercut
It seems like size has done little or nothing to ensure success. Size may instead be the hallmark of extinction of anything good. There seems to be a larger trend now where companies self destruct or what gave them value is purposely dismantled.
Keep making Original content Pixar. Make better budget films
I actually think the in-house production and sticking with the same team is what sinking Pixar.
People can't be continuously creative, be it story writers or animators. Most of the time, they have a few brilliant ideas they keep in stock for all their life. Once you have used up all of that for successful projects, people need some time to recuperate and think up new things. If you keep pushing the same people to make more things, naturally their products will become dull. Rotating the team, picking up new talents, taking on their ideas and allowing them to realize it will bring freshness to your products.
To be fair they did since 2018 started to hire more diverse talent to be at Pixar which lead to some of Pixar most recent films nowadays.
@damonlam9145 That's the key issue here. Are we talking about diversity of Talent? Or the color/genitalia type?
Elemental is a movie about the director's experience being a second generation immigrant with parents that came from korea(iirc) and it was marketed as a boring romance that we've seen a thousand times before
I only got interested in the film when reviews came in and said what it was actually about
I'd like to correct you. It's true the industry is changing, but not in the way you think. You mentioned that they don't appeal to children, but that is their problem exactly, they're trying to appeal to children. Sony and universal dominate the animation industry because they appeal to an older demographic. Infact, I attended the Spiderverse premiere and the youngest age was around 15. The movie was full of adult humor. Recently Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon did a study and found the largest demographic for animated content is between ages 16-35 yrs. Pixar movies are also very formulaic, but worse of all is that they don't tell intelligent stories. they're very watered down to be family movies. It's kind of like that guy who pretends to be smarter than they actually are by using big words. It could be Disney holding them back, because family oriented movies is their thing, but that's not where the market for animation is.
Marketing has be inexistantfor their last release, also the last movie where only "good", not "great". They lack a bit of the pull of previous movies
FYI You forgot to link the pixar woke video in the description
It went woke and Disney on purpose killing it.
Shame you didn't go into how and why John lasseter was fired. The reason he was fired and how he was fired pretty much sounded the death Knoll of Pixar as well as showing to what lengths Disney would go to get rid of and mess with someone they didn't like or want working for their company.
Lasseter himself and the nature of his departure are very important to the pixar timeline as it really explains and represents a lot about the state of the studio under Disney and how things started to snowball after he got kicked out.
If people think he simply _'got fired'_ or he got out of bed one day and decided he didnt want to work at Pixar anymore and quit couldnt be further from the truth. Pixar got infiltrated by Disney wokists and he got outed because he was the first and the last line of defence when it came to looking after his staff and also the kind of movies the studio would work on and Disney was all about spreading 'ThE MeSsAgE' instead of focusing on wholesome family friendly content. He wouldnt let Pixar do that so Disney hatched a real dirty plan to get rid of him.
to say he left or departed misrepresents the bigger picture in a big way. There is honestly a lot more to it then him just upping and leaving
I'm curious as to how severe the sexual harassment was but I am biased towards Lasseter as he was my childhood hero and ultimately inspired me to go into my chosen career. Where did he land on the spectrum of creepy uncle to Russell Brand? I imagine closer to the creepy uncle end
@@Barnacl3_Boi from what Ive read he hugged a member of staff (the Disney infiltrator) and she accused him of SA. despite all of lasseters other staff members saying he was always a huggy person he'd hug his team and any fans he'd come across. Disney wanted him out and this was one way to get rid of him. None of the people that had been part of his studio for the longest time had a bad word to say about him. He was one of the nicest people and he protected them from all the woke till he was kicked out
@@Rose.Of.Hizaki Do you know where I can find more info? The mouse has made it difficult to find what actually happened
@@Rose.Of.Hizaki Also why did they want him out? Was there some kind of dispute? I feel like we’ll never know entirely
@@Barnacl3_Boi a channel called 'Clownfishtv' talked a lot about it in some of their older videos although you can probably find enough about his _'firing'_ through a lot of websites/blogs from google search and draw up your own conclusions. Clownfish talked about it in a video a while back so I dont know if they had a separate video talking about it or mentioned it because they were talking about Pixar and their most recent toy story movie at the time.
The main dispute was Disney wanted to use Pixar to spread *_'ThE MeSsAGe'_* and Lasseter wouldnt let it happen without a fight so they had to find a way to get rid of him so they could appoint one of their own to take control and do what they wanted. hence why a lot of pixar stuff has been so bad since Lasseters departure.
(if you dont know of clownfishtv, they are pretty legit)
R.I.P. to the original thumbnail, with Woody bleeding out onto the background. Was wondering how long TLDR were going to leave it
Disney just involves itself too much with Pixar. Just let Pixar do its thing and then Disney can profit via theme parks and merch etc.
Cheapass parent: “We have Pixar at home” (but it’s actual Pixar)
disney is killing itself and draging pixar with it
I don't see nothing wrong with Disney and Pixar together.
I'd never heard of Elementals before this vid so advertising wasn't great either.
the films simply aren't appealing any more. was the new spiderverse film a sequel? yes, but it was a sequel that felt necessary, and it was a continuation of one of the greatest films of the past decade. why on earth would i want to watch toy story 4? what new story needs to be told with those characters? as for films like elemental or luka, they simply don't sound interesting to me. the art is more or less what i've come to expect from pixar, so there's nothing visually to grip me, and the plots just sound like...any other kids film with some fantasy elements thrown in. the old pixar films would experiment and try new things. as much as people like to make fun of cars 2, it tried to be distinct from the first movie and tell a completely new story. i stopped caring about pixar because it felt like they stopped caring about delivering high quality, unique films unlike anything seen before.
I’ve never seen this channel before but frick I thought it was Simon for the first few seconds before the face cam.
Pixar wasn't the same after Cars 2 and the Covid 19 Pandemic
Honestly I’ve still been enjoying Pixar films. Onward, Soul and Luca were amazing! Turning Red and Lightyear weren’t amazing, but Elemental was awesome! I’m still holding out hope that Pixar can bounce back!
Yes
Lol Disney ruined Pixar years ago there hasn't been a Pixar level movie since toy story 3
The thumbnail feels Game Theory-esque, lol. Not that I'm complaining
Once again, they are learning the wrong lessons. If Pixar makes an original film with as much care and quality as Spiderverse, I don't give a crap about IP. I didn't bother to watch the first one initially *because* it looked like a stupid IP cash grab. But the story was so excellent, told with such care.
Turning Red was done dirty, it's a totally excellent film, but I haven't been super impressed with the other more recent Pixar releases.
Disney are killing Pixar?? Is that phrased right?
“Sleeper hit” = still lost money. Come on. It was the worst performing movie for Pixar in a decade.
By far, your best thumbnail
Get woke…. Go…
Being a child of the golden age then I must say the decay since the absorbtion Is obvious
Short answer yes
It just doesn't feel special anymore. I remember going to the theater, and if I saw a PIXAR trailer (usually for the next year) I'd get excited! While I preferred original films, their sequels were usually great anyway.
I didn't jump on the bandwagon right away. I (wrongly) thought that Toy Story was just going to LOOK cool, but without much of a story. Once I saw it (on video) I was HOOKED. Since then, I saw every Pixar movie (with the exception of The Good Dinosaur, which I missed) in the theater, up through Toy Story 4. I loved the ending of Toy Story 3 and didn't think 4 was necessary (though Forky IS cook).
After that, COVID hit and I didn't go to the movies anymore, BUT I still wanted to hear about Pixar movies. The only one after Toy Story 4 that I saw, was "Seeing Red," which we rented. I do want to see Elemental, but they just don't feel that special anymore. I can't really tell the difference between Disney and Pixar films much anymore, which makes me think that there have been more Pixar releases then there actually have been. So it FEELS like PIxar is being milked, which may not be the case.
What also adds to the feel is that Disney DOES seem to milk any franchise they buy out, be it Marvel or Star Wars. Both of them used to feel special, but now there are so many movies and streaming shows, I don't even get excited at the mention of those anymore. None of them feel like special events, just another release.
You guys honestly need a financial consultant, cause these videos are not business
give us Wall•E 2.
Uh no
Pixar just aren't as amazing as some folks would have you believe.
Only Disney shareholders should care about this.
I'd say Pixar fans should care about this.
Pixar's only saving grace was their tech, never their talent. It's painfully clear they were Disney's desperate attempt to get a 'boys' line to match cornering the princess market for gendered marketing" " Hey, boys like... bugs! ...dinosaurs! uh, cars...! ...robots?! ... rats?! Why isn't this working?!" Their designs were all old Disney shorts stretch to 90 mins. It got old. Then it got creepy. Pixar was an infamously toxic studio. It drove Brenda Chapman off Brave, the only different and creative idea the studio ever pitched, because of stomach churning sexual harassment and when the Me Too floodgates open, the studio was outted as one of the worst offenders. You can't exactly attract top talent - or any talent - if you're famous for SAing your employees. So a studio with nothing but having a brief head start in computers animation had to be utterly gutted and rebuild from the ground up to clean out the trash working there has left it back at the very beginning with not much to build on even though its trying. Meanwhile, Disney has Star Wars and Marvel to sell action figures so, well, why is Pixar even here now? Its too bad for the people there now but honestly, the studio was nothing to begin with but Disney's desperate attempt at a boy line and a few years head start on CGI.
Commercial AND financial hits?! Lol
Disney+ killed pixar
One thing I miss that Pixar had back in the early 2000s and 90s
What's the CGI Castle Fanfare intro that Randy Newman did. It was so good but it wasn't used that much it was replaced with the modern Castle intro which makes Disney and Pixar not stand out as much because back then they had different intros
:(
I never cared much about "representation" and what not... In fact I found people who can relate to characters in movies on anything else than their action moronic to put it mildly.
For me the reason why I don't take my children to the cinema (or streaming platform) to watch new Pixar releases is simple:
There are a lot of old cartoons that we can watch and the new releases turn me away even at the trailer level...
Pixar stories have just lost their edge... That's all.
I personally like representation done well and that it doesnt feel forced like most media are about cisgenderness/heterosexuality/straightness as well as mostly involving people with white skintone so having other media about other sexualities and ethnicites is a good thing if done well
That video about TLDR analysing the data behind the Wokeness claim isn't linked in the description
The movies are BAD. The end. They need to be creative
Elementan es basically a spinoff of IndiseOut. If you want to say you're original, be original. We, the public, don't prefer sequels, as they tend to be rrally bad, but you don't really have a choice when there's NO original content. The industry has become complacent and creativity has long died out.
The movies are NOT bad. None of Pixar’s movies are actually bad. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
It’s also clear you didn’t even watch the whole video
I only half agree. Hollywood hasn’t been original for decades. There is a rated R horror movie about a doll that was a ripoff of a Twilight Zone episode. I remember watching on RUclips the Garfield Show in which Garfield obtains a watch that stops time. The producers literally ripped that off of a Twilight Zone episode.
Pixar started fresh. They were like what animation was before Hanna Barbara was in the 1980’s, a decade of terrible cartoons, except for a few like He-man.
Disney had Bugs Bunny, Tom and Jerry, Pink Panther and more. The 70’s and 80’s were mostly hit and miss. You had the Smurfs and a few others. That was a terrible two decades for Disney in animation, until 1989’s Little Mermaid. There was a lot of flops like Labyrinth, Willow, Goonies and Dark Crystal, ironically all cult hits today. Then the 90’s brought The Simpsons and Shrek, which was a cult hit TV show and a Dreamworks movie respectively. Both are still popular today.
Cartoons and Hanna Barbara followed by Cartoon Network are just garbage today.
Disney plus doesn’t even allow Song of the South on its platform. But they lecture us on race.
Disney has lost its identity. They had many great musicals for decades and the early animation was great. Although they regained that magic after the early 70’s to 89’s debacle, they have adopted the agenda of the left.
When I want to watch sports and movies, I don’t want a political agenda. When I shop at companies, I don’t want my money going to left wing agendas. Boycotts do work by conservatives.
Being original doesn’t necessarily make a movie good, but Hollywood makes sequels so much because they have no original idea. Which is why they are making live action remakes of animated movies. Because the animated ones made money.
The bigger empires got, the more unwieldy they get. The same happened to Disney. Disney is a monopoly and needs to be destroyed.
They are greedy, just like Netflix. Look at other monopolies like Facebook and Apple. They control your information and make a crappy product while being a trillion dollar company nobody likes.
When are people going to get smart and stop giving these companies money?
Hollywood is greedy, stupid and left wing. Disney is no different.
Hopefully Elemental success might be the step forward for Pixar to return back to its glory days.
People give to much weight to politics. I feel like the real problem for Pixar is that they have been integrated by Disney and there is not enough differentiation in quality or style. A movie like strange world felt as Pixar as Elemental or onward and even though strange worlds was much worst than the other two, the Pixar movies feel mid and not as well written as they used to be.
I read Elemental reviews, still I dared to watch it on Disney+.
So much disappointment.
Couldn't connect to characters like other movies.
They didn't let us connect with characters.
Maybe New Yorkers can understand those demographics bonding & all,but rest of the world is different.
No explanations (Anger, Crying & Softness) of characters.
I closed it after 40 minutes.
Then Elemental isn't isn't your cup of tea, which is a problem with most of Pixar's recent original films they are pretty divisive, some will love the film, while others might hate it.
I guess you guys got in trouble for the original thumbnail? haha
Get gold and turn it into shit.
"PiXaRs eArLy wOrK hAd a PrObLeM wiTH dIvErSiTy"
...Weren't half of their characters animals and/or inanimate objects 💀
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