While writing this video I came across some really interesting stuff about Mongolia and names, which while interesting didn't fit with this video and could easily be their own videos! If you happen to be from Mongolia and watching this video feel free to get in touch over on twitter @NameExplainYT it could really help out. Even if you aren't from Mongolia follow me anyway!
@@curiosityimagination8118 Theres not such thing as "pure Mongols". They were originally just a bunch of nomads of different tribes gathered up to be called "Mongols"
as a person who work at 中国共产党 i say that everything we talk are actually true, you guys has been brain washed by the rest of the world ,Mongolia are actually made in china and Mongolia invaid the russia so the west were originally born by china and the east are also owned by china because they are asian
I'm a Mongolian and I studied the origin of the name Mongolia in history class. We said there were 3 alternative theories, of which I liked the most is that Mongol simply referred to people living by the streams of Mon river ("gol" means river"). It is common still today in Mongolia to refer to group of people by the river they live by. Because we are landlocked, people naturally live along rivers for water source, and get named after them.
maaz amjad actually it's a little different, uk never control Republic of Ireland for over 300years, but china did it. They separate because Russia want to take it as the security land between china and Russia
A small correction, after the Mongolian Yuan dynasty fell from power in China, it was the Ming who took over. The ethnically Manchu Qing dynasty came into power after the Ming lost the Mandate of Heaven.
Ming dynasty never controled mongolia and inner mongolia.After Yuan dynasty lost control about China.IT went back its original homeland.and called "Bei Yuan".And after that.TILL qing dynasty.mongolian people always controled nowadays mongolia and inner mongolia...Ming dynasty never controled mongolia.
@Ron Lewenberg Losing the mandate of heaven means that people lose their faith in the dynasty thus many people uprising and the government become so weak that they can't control their subject (many traitors left unchecked) and the uprising. The successful uprising itself means that the government (dynasty) has lose the mandate of heaven and the failure of the uprising means that the government (dynasty) still has the mandate of heaven. In China, if you want to change dynasty, it means the leader has to have the courage to put his life on the line; he/ she either change dynasty and become King or die. It's kind of like a test from the heaven.
I am a Manchu. Mongolia was also Chinese in the Qing Dynasty. China is a multi-ethnic country. We all consider ourselves Chinese, whether Han or Manchu
there is a dessert called gobi dessert.south of the dessert is inner.north of the dessert is outer...in face before 1755,there is a west Mongolian in northern part of Xinjiang and part of Kazakstan before the Manchus genoside these western Mongolian peoples in 1755....
A lot of ethnic mongols live there, but most of them live in rural areas or just some grasslands. I met a lot of ethnic mongols in rural places in Hailar, IM and most of them own a lot of cows and horses many of them set up businesses for tourists
Purevjargal Puujee they still exist, at least 4 million of them. However, they were forced to live simple lives by the Chinese government who doesn’t want them to become capable and independent. Millions of hän Chinese were flooded into Inner Mongolia to solidify China’s claim to the region and now han completely outnumber the mongols and they own all the business and economy. There are still Mongolians who fight against the han occupation but they are simply suppressed and silenced.
Never heard your theory on the name Mongol. The ones Mongolian scholars accept and teach in school are: 1. "Gol" means river even up to today since ancient times. Mon was an old name for a river. Even today we call people that "gols" and this "gols" by the river they live by 2. Mongol is based on the name of a military general during Xianbei tiems.
I understand this is a simplistic map, but Qing dynasty China had Taiwan and Hainan too. I see that Hainan wasn't shown, but Taiwan could have been painted red in 2:00
actually, Inner Mongolians are also called Kercin Mongolians, where the familly Ghengis Khan really came from, while the Outer Mongolians are Karka Mongolians(if I pronounced if right), from some marginal tribes. The nobles are still in Inner Mongolia, but nobles of Outer Mongolia has already been massacred by the Soviet Union.
Qing did lose Taiwan though. Could be after 1895 when the Qing dynasty of China ceded Taiwan Province in the Treaty of Shimonoseki. In any case Taiwan is no longer part of China. 🇹🇼 Taiwan is Taiwan.
Nearly 80%of Inner Mongolia is Han people. There are more Mongolian people living in the grassland. > The Han nationality is 1893,5537, accounting for 78.74 %; > The Mongolian people are 424,7815, accounting for 17.66%; (Including the mixed race of the Han and the Mongolian people, the Hanhe Mongolian culture is more mixed) > Other ethnic minorities are 86,5803, accounting for 3.60%.
Inner Mongolia was the area where the Chengis khan's bloodline khans herd. ..Later the Qing emperors succeeded as the great khan by conquering whole Mongolia and marrying former khan's daughters..Since then, hordes in Inner Mongolia became royal banner men that guard the Qing capital Beijing. So from the standpoint of the Qing capital, the area is inner and closer.
The terms Inner Mongol and Outer Mongol are both meaning geographical and political. Geographically, Inner Mongols lies to the south of the Gobi desert, while Outer is to the north of the Gobi Desert. Politically, Inner Mongols are the early allay of Manchu through royal marriage. Qing empire was Manchu-Mongol alliance. this is a not only political and military alliance, but also royal marriage alliance. During their rise, Manchu leaders forged alliances with various Mongolian tribes such as the Horchin and the Chahars who were to be incorporated in the army of the Qing dynasty. The Manchu and Mongolian troops allied under the Qing fought alongside each other to conquer the Ming dynasty of China. later the khalhaa (so call outer Mongol) joins. Imperial marriage is based in politics. Powerful members of the imperial harem generally have powerful support outside the palace. Mongolian and Manchu are all powerful factions during Qing dynasty. Apparently, many people's knowledge about Mongolia is limited on Chinese fake history and propaganda press. Mongolia has never been a part of China. Vice-versa, China has been part of the Mongol empire. So-called Yuan dynasty is only a part of the Mongol empire. So-called Qing dynasty is Manchu-Mongol Alliance ruling China. Mongolia independence from Manchu Qing on December 28, 1911, even early than Chinese did. Unfortunately, most of the history of the Mongols was written by their enemies like Chinese, Persian, Arabian, Russian, western...That was why full of bias and prejudice.
Yes, and if the Mongol and British Empires are still around today only the Mongols would score more medals at the Olympic Games due to the large numbers of Russians and Chinese winning among other nations they conquered.
DISCLAIMER. Qing didn't overthrow the Mongols it was Ming, then Qing, later on, conquered Mongolia. Inner Mongolia is called "inner" because it is relatively close to the center of "middle kingdom" while outer Mongolia is further away. Republic of China(Taiwan) still claims the whole Mongolia (both inner and outer) as part of their territory.
I think I might know why it is called INNER Mongolia. If I remember correctly, ancient Chinese believed that the closer one got to the center of the world, in this case China, the more civilized it became and vise versa for the uncivilized. Well, since Inner Mongolia is closer to the "center" of civilization, it might be considered closer to the inner part of the circle. Thus making it Inner Mongolia. The same can be said, but in reverse, for why some Chinese call Mongolia and Outer Mongolia.
The name "Mongol" is originated from the phrase "Monkh Tengeriin Gal" which means "The Fire of Eternal Sky" later it became "MonkhGal". Even you can see "Moon, Sun, Flame in blue" in old Mongolian flag.
I can't be sure but I had always thought that China called their Mongolia "Inner" and the independent one "Outer" because the Chinese name for China is "Zhōngguó", which means something like "Middle Kingdom", "Centre Realm", "Core Country", reflecting the ancient viewpoint that China represented the middle of the world. I took it to be that Inner Mongolia is "Inner" for being, literally and metaphorically, closer to the Chinese heartland.
Correct. This is not unique to China, however, many states mapped their state in the center in a "circular" way and thus marked territories accordingly. For example, "Germania Superior" and "Germania Inferior" are east and west accordingly, but in circular maps of the Roman empire with the city of Rome in the center, Germania Superior was "above" or "outer" while Germania Inferior was "below" or "inner".
@@anaphysik The upstream/downstream is a useful association, not necessarily the logic applied for the naming. There was also Britannia Superior and Britannia Inferior that didn't follow any such geographical conventions. The higher/lower elevation is also dubious, given that aside from Britannia being a counterexample again, Pannonia Inferior and Pannonia Superior were also not much different in elevation (even though admittedly the upstream/downstream one applies for the Danube).
kind of true. as a chinese native, for me inner mongolia is like "mongolia within china", while outer mongolia is like "mongolia outside of china". just from the name of these two xD
The real reason Southern Mongolia is called "Inner Mongolia" is that, that part of Mongolia was first defeated by Manchus. You know Manchus are not Chinese people, calling them Chinese Dynasty is actually bit off. They're Manchu Dynasty. Well now they're part of China's 56 ethnics. At that time, they were different race. Before they become Manchu Dynasty, they were just small tribe. They defeated southern part of Mongols and northern China like out of nowhere. Both Mongols and China didn't expect it. And since that part of Mongols is "inside" of Manchu territory, they called it "Inner Mongolia". Then they called parts which they didn't take over as "Outer Mongolia". Eventually they defeated all Mongols and all China, took their land and called their country as Great Qyng Dynasty or Manchu Qyng Dynasty. Fun fact: At first, their written language were more like Mongolian traditional written system. Then they have changed it to Chinese Mandarin somehow.
Chinese here , and I am agree with you， so about you last sentence, U can understand that way; During Qing dynasty, Manchu people lost their language( influence by Chinese)and Chinese and Mongols lost their Customs（ strong influence by Manchu)
I think It's better to replace "Manchu are not Chinese" with "Manchu are not Han". You know there's no ethnic called "Chinese" in China. Most of time Manchu can be called Chinese too.
@@林汉娜-b7p all citizens of china are chinese. All 56 ethnic groups in china are chinese. Han chinese are not only chinese in china. Though for most history they dominate various dynast.
China is not a ethno-state. It actually is made up of quite many different ethnicities, and Mongolians are one of the largest ethnic groups living in China.
@@shaaruboqalaf171 Yes, Depend on the data of Sixth time of population census(2010, the seenth will happen in 2020 Nov.), Han Chinese 1.22 billion, Manchus 10.3 million, Mongols 5.98 million, Tibetan 6.82 million I don't know the "Turkic" means , because if you mean the nations who have Tujue(突厥) blood, that's very very confusion, if only lanuauges,Uygur 10.03 million,Qazaq 1.46 million, maybe some more but they are less than 1 million, I'm not sure. And is you mean the nation who has Tujue's blood, the 5 words you said exist Tibetan, all have that.
I want to note that Qing Dynasty was Manchurian empire. Mongolian, Chinese, Manchurian, Tibetian and many other ethnic groups were part of it. For Inner/Outer Mongolia term: Manchurians first occupied Southern Mongolia. From that moment, they had to segregate if they were talking about the Mongols within their influence or not. So, they started using the Inner/Outer Mongolia terminology since mid-17th century. So, Inner Mongolia means, basically, Mongolia in Manchurian Qing Dynasty. However, all Mongolians in any country don’t use Inner Mongolia term. Instead, they call “Uvur Mongol”, which literally means “Southern Mongolia”.
Actually when manchu qing empire fell mongolia wanted independence but because of pressure from stalin and mao there was 3 parts meeting on the border city of kyakhta. Agreement was Russia taking buryats kizil norther kazakstan area and China taking innermongol and uighurs for recognizing only khalkha mongol independence.
I am a han manchu mixed ,I love entire Chinese ,all Chinese ,mogolian Chinese ,tibetan Chinese Korean Chinese .....I love mogolian ,no matter inner or outer mogolian they are same to me .and I looks like mogolian ,when I traveled in erlianhaote city inner mogolia ,those outer mogolian speak mogolian language to me ! OK ,maybe one of my ancestors were mogolian manchu ?who cares ,I love you all .just wish outer mogolian people can have a good life ,when I heard outer mogolian suffer for poverty really make me feel broken heart .
Actually when manchu qing empire fell mongolia wanted independence but because of pressure from stalin and mao there was 3 parts meeting on the border city of kyakhta. Agreement was Russia taking buryats kizil norther kazakstan area and China taking innermongol and uighurs for recognizing only khalkha mongol independence.
Most people in China today want Outer Mongolia to stay independent. I agree. Some naive nationalists want to annex Outer Mongolia, but Mongolian friends please don’t listen to them. Most of us just want friendly relations, healthy trade flow, and exchange of cultures.
No in inner Mongolia, top families must be descentends of Khasar, Chinggis's brother. Only Chinggis's direct descentends are golden family. Therefore no. They are in Mongolia.
Those who opposed the Russians were killed, and some fled to Inner Mongolia. Both Mongolia and Inner Mongolia claimed that they were aristocratic inheritors, Mongolian lost Mongolian, Language is Russian-based, and Inner Mongolia still preserved Mongolian. I am a Chinese Han.
I'm Buryad-Mongol from Khongoodor Tribe (same Kongrat). We belive that we are all sons of Borte Chino from Kiyad Tribe and Chonos Tribe (Nokhos). The word "Mongol" is created by two Mongolian words: "Monkh" means "Eternal" and "Gol" - "Kernel". This means that we are the real Tribes who continues our blood line, keep true traditions of nomad life and believe in Tengri (Sky). Also I see in coments about the word "Siberia". Siberia is mean "impenetrable forest"
dear... “inner” in Inner Mongolia means it’s closer to the main part inner core of the traditional Han Chinese ruling territory, put it plainly it’s closer to BEIJING so it’s called inner...
The names "Inner Mongolia" and "Outer Mongolia" were created by the Qing Dynasty, whose capital city was Shenyang and later Beijing. Inner Mongolia is the "Inner" one because it's closer to the two capital cities.
There is a place near me called "Hope Cove". It is comprised of two other places "Inner Hope" and "Outer Hope". Inner Hope actually surrounds Outer Hope. So it could be some sort of weird English naming thing or even a Celtic thing.
mzk timekiller this is something I did stumble across while writing this video. As I said in the pinned comment I think more Mongolia related videos will happen on day!
@Džudžan Nope, you didn't understand. In Thailand if two people have same last name then it definitely means they're from the same family. This is not necessarily true elsewhere in the world where there's a two or three name system. For example, in America, if two people have the same last name then they may or may not be blood related. On the other hand, in Thailand, these two people are guaranteed to be blood related. And that's by law, not coincidence.
Says the one whose name is Chinese. Lmao. We might be forgot our history but we ain't forgetting who we are. They really love to shout "we are the real Mongols" while being fucked by Chinese in the ass. We are poor but we have a border. And we have our own law and independence.
@@yusadani755 Yeah but that's exactly why China doesn't want Mongolia to join nowadays. China will have to invest trillions into Mongolia's infastructure and military to deal with the Russians.
There are other parts of Mongolia : republic of Buryatia in Russia federation, Bayingolin Prefecture in Xinjiang, china, and Haixi Prefecture in Qinghai, china.
Qing did lose Taiwan though. Could be after 1895 when the Qing dynasty of China ceded Taiwan Province in the Treaty of Shimonoseki. In any case Taiwan is no longer part of China. 🇹🇼 Taiwan is Taiwan.
Chinggis Han conquered The Xixia and Jin Dynasties of China and fought the Song Dynasty, but it wasn't until Kubilai Han that the Song Dynasty was conquered, so the map in the video isn't when Chinggis Han was alive.
They aren’t similar at all... Liberia is US for liberated slaves in the Back to Africa movement going on under the US, under Monroe hence Monrovia capital. Libya is completely different
So why the outter Mongolia is using Russian Cyrillic alphabet??? What is even that? If a country and a civilization can not sustain its own culture, why is still called Mongolia? Today's out Mongolia should be called Mongoussia or Mongolian trators. On the contrary, the Mongolia script and Chinese were the official language for the Yuan Dynasty, which was founded by the 5th Khgan-empror of the Mogol Empire, Kublai Kghan. These two languages are still being used in inner Mongolia, China. China's inner Mongolia sustains the culture and tradition of the Great Mongolia empire, and is the real Mongolia. Who cares how many Genghis Khans' descendants live in the out Mongolia? There might be more England and Irish descends living in the US, why don't we call the US or New York UK or Irland?
The situation is very similar to Macedonia. Old Macedonia was a large area and nowadays the land belongs to Greece, Republic of Macedonia and Bulgaria. Similarly, Old Mongolia was a large area and nowadays the land belongs to Mongolia, China (InnerMongolia) and Russia （Tuva Republic).
When the Chinese ruled the region (at least during the Qing and early Republic of China), Inner Mongolia is was called “inner” because its closer to the center (han populated China). It was also more populated and divided into several different provinces. Outer Mongolia was a distant pastoral wilderness further from the centre of Han rule, and thereby the name. Many other places in east Asia has such names, such as Xin Jiang (New Frontier, and in ancient times Xiyu=western territories), Tibet (Western “Weald/collect-/stack up of(mountains?)), Vietnam (further south), Korea (but only Choson, fresh dawn), and ofc japan How the nation of Mongolia as an independent country didn’t include Inner Mongolia I think had to do with either Sun Yat Sen or Yuan Shikai ceding only the Outer Mongolia region to Russia, but I haven’t looked this up.
There are approximately 5.8 million Mongolian (ethnic) in China, and (outer) Mongolia have just 3.1 million entire population. Also, the Mongolia nation abandons the traditional vertical Mongolian script. So, the Inner Mongolia province in China is more likely the orthodox; and the Mongolia Nation actually should use the name "Outer Mongolia".
@@tobiasit2190 Khalkha is a better name for you. Because real Mongolian is in China. Mongol Empire golden family is in Inner Mongolia. Khalkha Mongolia is the fake one. Slaves and severants.
@@mydad4332 What golden family? and you have to be a noble to be Mongolian? i suppose all the Hans are really not Hans since you guys were mostly peasants on the farm for five thousand years. Those Mongols in Mongolia should be part of our nation. Your government banned nomadic life which is our way of life for thousands of years and yet you claim to have "real" Mongols. Don't make me laugh. The thing that makes a person Mongol isn't blood, its culture. Unfortunately Mongols in China are losing their connection to our great culture. Swallowed by Hans. It may say Mongol on their citizen card, but if they don't speak our language or even know our history then they're not Mongol.
@@tobiasit2190 golden family is Mongol Empire royal family, did not you know, Khalkha slave? Do you still have dignity when you adopt Russian culture and abondon tronditional Mongonl cuture? Note that Mongolian Chinese are Chinese citizens not dirty, poor, uneducated Outer Khalkha ones. Are you stupid or something, our government banned nomadic life? WTF! I don't give a f**k to you son. Can't you indeed silly enough to believe this shit, son? After century cluture break forced by Russian. That's why every year your Khalkha sent students to Hohhot, Inner Mongolia study standard Mogolian, Khorchin Mogolian.But can you really master? You are almost Russian now without Mongolian Chinese studying you. But you are lucky, a bunths of fake Mongolian even have chances to learn REAL Mongolian, rather than Russian and wired, funny Khalkha dailect. You should apprecite that China give a oppotunity to you to be study Mongolian. But as returns, please don't use Mongolia as your name cuz you are not qualified. Understand, son？
The Outer Mongolia once called by us Chinese people 漠北蒙古, Means Mongols north of the gobi desert, while the Inner Mongolia called 漠南蒙古, the mongols south of the gobi desert. The ones lives north of the desert were also called the “khalkha Mongols”. These are not two separate countries but a lot of tribes since the Mongolia was not unified after the collapse of the Mongolian empire. While the environment north and south of the desert is quite different, the mongol tribes lived there have some pretty different cultures. the Inner Mongolia was called this way because they live closer to us and considered Inner, they also have more political and economic relationships with the rest of China.
"中國/中華 CHINA" refers to the Chinese nation 中華民族 refers to the "Han nationality 漢族" (before 1949). During the Qing Dynasty, the Han population was 99%. The Manchu population was less than 1% (and the Manchu Emperor of the Qing Dynasty also used the Han Totem "Dragon龍" of the Han nationality. They also learned the history of Han, Chinese 漢語and Chinese characters 漢字 ...). The Chinese official language and text are also Chinese and Chinese characters in Qing dynasty . At that time, most of the population of Inner Mongolia and Xinqiang areas were Han people (today is also). Most of the Tibetans were mixed races of Han and Tibetans (today ID cards are marked as Tibetan). "The founding of the country in Japan only 150 years (after the 13th century, only the local Chinese palaces) and the" South Korea "founded for more than 70 years. Before that. It has always been Chinese territorial and local regimes. The official language is Chinese and Chinese characters. Now most of the Chinese population is the Han nationality. The Han nationality is 92%. The other 54 ethnic minorities account for 8%. 2023: Xinjiang has 55 ethnic groups. Han and Uyghur people have the largest population. > The Han people are 109,20098, accounting for 42.24 %; > The Uyghur people are 116,24257, accounting for 44.96%; (Including some of the Han and Uyghur people mixed) > The other ethnic minorities are 330,7990, accounting for 12.8 %. Most of the Inner Mongolia people are Han people. > The Han people are 1893,5537, accounting for 78.74 %; > The Mongolian people are 424,7815, accounting for 17.66%; (Including the mixed race of the Han and the Mongolian , There are more mixed culture of Han and Mongolia) > Other ethnic minorities are 86,5803, accounting for 3.60%.
Unfortunately in inner Mongolia they are not pure they are mixed with Han and that apparently counts them as 'Mongol', In Mongolia you can see a distinct feature in their appearances whilst in Inner Mongolia they literally look like Han Chinese people. The Mongol script is based from the Uyghur Script so there has never been a traditional Mongolian alphabet, the Cyrillic alphabet is easier to write and would be less hassle in comparison to the Uighur script which would only be used in inner Mongolia. Now according to The Chinese government, Mongols outnumber us in our own homeland but I assure you if you are someone who has been to inner Mongolia and Mongolia you will most likely see these so called mongols not even knowing Mongolian or they literally look like a Han Chinese person. I respect our neighbors but you Chinese really don't know how your government treat the minorities in your country, Uyghurs, Kazakhs, Mongols and Tibetans are soon going to be ethnic Han because of forced rape and the forced chinese interim camps that try to make them more suited for the Han chinese society.
@@lx6461 Ok and what policy is that since you know so much about your government? We are talking about Inner Mongolia not East Turkestan or Tibet, you should talk to the refugees that go to the west especially Canada. Stop assuming and know your facts, your government have this policy where if there minorities do not fit the ideas of a Han chinese then they will rape you, brain wash you or put up little interim camps across your country. not to forget the false imprisonment and illegal executions. You say in inner Mongolia mongols get to practice there traditions yet scholars and nationalists get fucked over.
@@TheGrip9 Shame on you fucking Western CIA , who will use the “ East Turkestan ” term ? stop yours useless gibberish , everybody knows the USA wants to make China much more smaller by supporting all sorts of separatistism .
I think Genghis was really very lucky that he did not encounter the military force of 1 million men led by our Chinese War Emperor Qin Shih Huang Di in 200 BC. At that time we Chinese had already invented mechanic bows that could shoot multiple strong arrows in seconds from huge distances. If the arrows were fitted with poison, it must be the deadliest weapon invented by mankind. The modern machine gun cannot match with these deadly arrows that can be shot from far distances and kill people like flies. Genghis´ Mongolian army would be looking like hedgehogs and destroyed by our Chinese Qin army in minutes before they managed to ride forward on their small ponies. Our Chinese War Emperor Qin Shih Huang Di is the real hero of all mankind, he spent only a few years to build the Great Wall, and also a few years to unify the whole of China.....
Bruh why u saying our chinese when ur referring to people who lived 2k years ago. China was invented couple centuries back. Keep ur facts straight. Thats is very misleading.
Using traditional scripts makes the Mongols in china more Mongol than the Mongols in Mongolia? Wouldn't that make Taiwan more Chinese than PRC? It's not like we changed the script because we wanted to forgot our identity. We just had to change it, we were soviet satelite, remember?
The word Inner/Outer comes from a Qing classification of: •"Inner-governed Mongolia" consist of Chahar, Hohhot Tumd, Uliastai, Tuva, Kobd, Alxaa/Ejin, Barag, Qinghai-Tibetan Mongols and Xinjiang Mongols etc. •"Inner Autonomous Outlying Mongolia" which is pretty much the rest of Inner Mongolia except for Alxaa League and Holonbuir. *"Outer Autonomous Outlying Mongolia" which consists of the rest of Outer Mongolia. Mongolia the state totally revoked this Manchu classification while China the People's Republic partially revoked the Manchu classification, with the term Inner redefined to "front" in Mongolian and "inner" in Mandarin (most Manchus use either Northeast Mandarin or Horchin Mongolian so nobody cares what it is called in Manchu). A similar case is in Mongolia they complete removed the 4 Leagues + Kobd administration into dozens of aimags while in Inner Mongolia a league was redefined to an aimag in Mongolian and meng in Mandarin, although 8 of the 11 leagues were eventually remade into cities step by step.
Just one correction, uliastai tuva and khovd (kobd) was apart of the outer mongolian governed areas. Another thing is in outer mongolia we had VERY small population for VERY large land meaning it would be harder to rule the people, so unlike in inner mongolia the manchu qing emperors made puppet rulers in outer mongolia made of chingissid bloodline based in one small trading outpost that is now ulaanbaatar.
@@unodos.4557 Territorially yes Tuva and Kobdo were in Outer Mongolia; administratively not, they were subject to different order. Qing's rule in Outer Mongolia is nlt aas direct as that in Inner Mongolia, but I don't think that's due to "large land with small population". Yes Outer Mongolia is sparsely populated but there's really no logic link here. It's 21st century, so it's better to take Chinggis Khan spirit instead of emphasizing "Chinggisid bloodline". If we all keep our eye on blood then there is no Mongols but the Chakhar imperial house, as all others such as Khalkha and Ordos are led by sideline kings. Chinggis Khan succeed to unite the grassland because he held the idea that all in the grassland are equal, so solely looking at Chinggisid bloodline would be a betrayal of Chinggis Khan spirit.
The term and ideas of Inner and Outer Mongolia are believed to have emerged in early 20th century after the Russo-Japanese War of 1905. At the Treaty of Portsmouth the two sides divided up their spheres of influence like the old boys did back then. Prior to the war the Russian Empire controlled most of northern Qing dynasty, but with 1895 Sino-Japanese War the Empire of Japan came to colonize Taiwan and take control of the whole of Choson, which was Korea in its whole. So the two empires came to direct contact with each others' spheres of influence. Russians lost, the Japanese won. So they had to redraw the spheres of influence and who controls what. Russians would sit tightly in Tannu Tuva (Uriyanqai) Frontier, Khovd Frontier, Jasagtu Khan aimag. Sayin Noyan Khan aimag, Tushiyetu Khan aimag and Secen Khan aimag - basically what is now Mongolia plus Tuva Republic and northeastern parts of Xinjiang (or southern Altai mountains). The Japanese would seize control of Manchuria directly north of Korea and Southern Mongol principalities (basically Inner Mongolia). This is what is taught in schools in Mongolia, still framed as Western and Japanese imperialism, as it was during socialism.
@@fybrogen7473 how do you know what ancient Mongolian sounded like? Since Inner Mongolia still has the real Mongolian writing. And most believe it’s the outer Mongolians that has Russian accent.
@@hello_world704 outer mongolians have russian accents? 😂😂😂 they dont even speak russian. While nearly half of inner mongolian children u will meet in hohhot can’t even speak mongolian. Inner mongolians dont even know which tribes they belong to.
Actually when manchu qing empire fell mongolia wanted independence but because of pressure from stalin and mao there was 3 parts meeting on the border city of kyakhta. Agreement was Russia taking buryats kizil norther kazakstan area and China taking innermongol and uighurs for recognizing only khalkha mongol independence.
Mongolia was used as a buffer state between China/USSR. Mao did not want to wage war to USSR to claim it back. CCP was weak back then and they viewed Mongolia as not much useful in terms of economics. Today's Mongolia economy is solely dependent on China. I think the Mongolia gov't will collapse soon which might see the country join China or Russia.
Khamag mongol is the name of Temujin (later known as genghis khan or Chinggis Khan) tribe, the one who united the nomadic once gokturk tribes of the steppe like the tartars, merits, and khuviars, khamag mongol also means whole mongol
The reason the Chinese region is "inner" and the independent country is "outer" is because they are named so in a sinocentric point of view... during the Qing dynasty.
Manchu people was the first-class citizen and the Mongols at the time were only below Manchu in terms of social class. The ordinary Han-Chinese people were the lowest class so I'm not really sure the 'sinocentric' past.
@ You could also argue the two ethnic groups both are heavily influenced by one another. Han Chinese also adopted much Manchu life style.
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@@monopalisa619 Yes. Back then the hairstyle and half of the cloth. Basically, back then Chinese are Manchu hairstyle and cloth with Han Confucius ideologies. Also, if you trace all the way back before Han dynasty, the definition of Han is someone who believe in Confucianism and mandate of heaven, etc and it is a cultural concept. Basically the such debate has already ended like 100 years ago. It is now all Chinese now. Also, if someone tell us Manchu is not China, we Manchus will be the first group to kick their ass before Han. The narrative of China as a civilization state is pretty solid. I understand someone try to put this race=nation ethno-state concept. Sorry, that won't work for China, because the Chinese identity is not build on race. It is based on cultural. As Confucius said few thousand years ago: 诸侯用夷礼则夷之，夷而进于中国则中国之 Basically , it means non-Chinese will become Chinese if they follow the Chinese cultural; also Chinese will become non-Chinese if they don't follow the culture. Now Back to Manchus, you can argue that at very early Qing dynasty, they are not Chinese, because Manchus didn't follow the Chinese tradition . However, as the time progressed and they realize they need to rule a lot of people, they start to adopt Confucius values. Frankly speaking, because they are a minority, so they even try harder to follow the Confucius value than the Han. Therefore, in middle and later QIng, they somehow fully assimilated and cannot distinguish themselves from the Han. Similar things happened in England as well. The House of Windsor come from Germany originally, but due to assimilation. They are English now. If you agree that Queen of Britain is a German, then probably your logic would work.
This name explain guy is kind of suspicious. His accent is unusual, he is trying sound British but again suspicious...he is doesn’t know history, if he doesn’t know history, it has be impossible or unexplainable? What the hell he is even trying to say? And whole bunch of Chinese guys claiming Mongol as Chinese....really?
Inner Mongolia has been a part of China for a long time. If you guys have played dynasty warriors or know the history of the three kingdoms period of China, you must be familiar with the name Lu Bu. Lu Bu if from inner Momgolia, his hometown's name was Jiu Yuan back then and it is called Bao Tou now.
Outer Mongolia used to be called Khalka Mongolia while they were still part of China (Qing dynasty). Fun fact: there are actually more ethnic Mongolians living in Inner Mongolia than Mongolia itself. Inner Mongolia kept the Traditional script intact (Mongolian language, written vertically) while Outer Mongolia got completely Russified D:
Khalkha is the major tribe of outer mongolia. Inner mongolia is mixed with chahar horchin and bayad tribes. Even though inner mongolia has more mongols, khalkhas are the largest tribe of mongol peoples, hence being the only ones who managed to wiggle away an independence.
yeah, in order to become independent they had no choice but the adapt to Cyrillic and they even tried not to. But it happened. But in schools, they teach Mongolian scripts as a course. And Qing dynasty was never a Chinese dynasty its Machuranian Qing. During that time different ethnic groups were living far from each other and were living on their own lands until the Mao Zedong era. And saying that "Outer" Mongolia got completely Russified is not true. When I was there I did not fined any one speaking Russian. It has some Russian influence sure, but so does Inner Mongolia. But compared to Kzastan and other countries like that Mongolians barely speak Russian. And they kept their culture. And there are other Mongol ethnic people in Russia too. Republic of Kalmylks and Byriatia.
Qing dynasty was not China, instead it was Manchurian ruled. Mongolia has never been part of China. People seem to think Qing and Yuan was Chinese dynasty.
@@amgalanbe The Qing Dynasty was China. It was just the upper -level power of China and the Palace of the Palace by the Manchu. Just like the US President, it was replaced by a black man. But it is still the United States.
@@barbiebarbie1813 Qing Dynasty comprised of 5 nations of the time. Mongolia, China, Manchurian, Uyghur, Tibet. Now China thinks they inherited Qing and claimed the nations. Inner Mongolia, Uyghur and Tibet should be independent nations.
Here's a fun fact. For mainland China, outer Mongolia is not on the Chinese map ; but for Republic of China, the one in Taiwan right now, outer Mongolia is still on the Chinese map, the map of Republic of China. Cause allowing independence was agreed by the communist, not the ROC government... Also, outer Mongolian cannot write Mongolian, inner monglians do thou, and their language is on Chinese money as well
False. They do write Mongolian, it's called Cyrillic Mongolian (Mongolian language written in Cyrillic script). Just like a lot of you Chinese can't write the Traditional Chinese characters anymore, but Taiwanese do. Would you say Chinese people cannot write Chinese?
@@baganatube Your comparison is false. The relationship between Cyrillic Mongolian and Vertical script is similar to Chinese character and Pinyin(romanized Chinese).
One fortune thing is that we had an ancient civilization next to us more than 1k years ago before we were able to record our own history. So based on ancient Chinese record, Mongol could mean "munkh gaal" which means "eternal fire" in our language.
To these people who say 'more Mongolian people in China', most of the Inner Mongolians are false or fake Mongolians just to get the minority benefits, they are Chinese. We have "Mongolians" like named 李建华, which means 'Lee' 'build' 'China', and that is a solid Chinese name which a Mongolian would never use.
@@borjiginhuborjigin2453 Not all Mongolians in China with Chinese style names are fake or mixed, at least 60% are still pure Mongolians, but culturally they are pretty much assimilated by Chinese, the famous Guinness giant Bao Xishun also uses Mandarin name but he is pure Mongolian.
@@borjiginhuborjigin2453 Don't be fooled by their names. Even Chinese people use English adopted names like John, Peter, George, Henry, etc. Does that mean they are not Chinese ethnically just because they have English names?
Hi from Hong Kong When I was small the school teach us the country of Mongolia can Outer Mongolia, the inner Mongolia call Mongolia. It was really complicated when I grow up.
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Ok, i am from Mongolia. Inner and outer name comes from Chinese Prospective! For China, Inner Mongolia is “nearer”. One thing! We hate this inner outer thing. Mongolia is Mongolia and the Supersedes all Mongol Empires
It's called Inner Mongolia because it is closer to China. The terms Outer Mongolia and Inner Mongolia are Chinese terms, or specifically Manchurian terms. The Qing rulers divided them because Inner Mongolians live beyond the Great wall but south of the Gobi desert. Their dialects are different too. In fact, Inner Mongolia itself has tons of dialects, sometimes almost incomprehensible. And not really, Inner Mongolians don't want to move out because Mongolia is a pretty much a shithole, sorry but that's just a reality. And Outer Mongolians don't want to live in Inner Mongolia because they don't want to live under the Chinese. I am not Mongolian, but this is what I heard from talking to Mongolian Chinese.
One thing incorrect is that in 1911, overthrow of Manchu empire which has nothing to do with the fascist China or the Chinese and manchus uses the same written scripts as mongols and Manchuria is their homeland. Fascist China also defrauded the world and illegally occupied 7 independent countries(80% of the fascist China’s current landmass), such as Tibet, Mongolia, East Turkistan, Manchuria, Cantonia, Hong Kong, Macau and now threatening Taiwan and all those countries actually gifted to the fascist China by Stalin at the fall of the Cold War since 1945 to help Soviet Union against western invasion. I can say with 100% confidence that if it was not for Stalin’s support of the fascist China, Inber Mongolia, Tibet, Manchuria, East Turkistan and possibly Cantonia, Hong Kong, Macau, all would be independent by 1946 and we never had this Inner Mongolia nor Outer Mongolia issue... Stalin destroyed Eastern Europe, but his destruction here is far far bigger and much more heinous and worst part, he killed all the leaders and army of Manchuria, East Turkistan, Mongolia and then disarmed then totally and gave them free on a golden plate to the fascist China so that fascist China can have his back if the USA and west attacks him... This is just totally unbelievable... Yes, in return, fascist China fought the war with the USA in korea in the 1950s and fought the USA again in Vietnam in the 1960s as Stalin didn’t want to fight with the USA directly... but this sacrifice is the most heinous one and fascist China pretty much genocided most of Manchus, mongols, Tibetans, uyghurs and many other ethnic minorities and possibly genocided more than 300m of them over the years... Overall, when the Cold War curtain fall in 1946, Stalin put at least 6 countries and 80% of the fascist china’s current landmass(not including Hong Kong and Macau) on a golden plate and gave it for free to the fascist China so that fascist China will have soviet union’s back when attacked by the west. Thus fascist China illegally occupied those countries without firing a shot. Specifically: 1. Stalin moved the entire Soviet army that sent to defeat the Hitler to the Siberia in August, 1945 and on August, 9th, 1945, two days before Japan officially surrendered, Soviet Union invaded the Manchuria with 1.6m army men against 1.1m Manchu and Japanese soldiers there. The war done within 3 weeks and they occupied Manchuria till the end of 1946, but as soon as the Cold War started in 1946, Stalin gave Manchuria to the fascist China so that they will be on Soviet Union side if there is a war breaks out with the west. 2. They gave Inner Mongolia to the fascist China on the same hope. 3. In 1946, East Turkistan had its army and almost close to liberate the entire East Turkistan from the remnants of the Manchu empire, Stalin immediately put pressure on East Turkistan not to advance instead negotiate with the remnants of the Manchuria. He, then 1949, using 3000 Soviet Union’s tupaliev planes, airlifted roughly 500,000 fascist China’s army to the East Turkistan and murdered all East Turkistan leaders and let fascist China to illegally occupy East Turkistan. 4. Britain and India would have defended Tibet in 1955, but Soviet Union threw their weight behind the fascist china threatening the west that if they suppprt Tibet, they will attack the west. just like that Soviet Union gave Tibet to the fascist China on a golden plate. 5. Cantonia, part of Thailand, Burma, Vietnam, India, Pakistan, were illegally occupied by the fascist China during the Cold War with the support of Stalin. I hope this Trump and other future American Presidents will undo those illegal occupation of Manchuria, Mongolia, East Turkistan, Tibet , Hong Kong, Macau, Cantonia and make them fully independent countries and destroy this cancer on the entire humanity, the evil fascist China once for all!!
Technically speaking, Qing dynasty is not chinese until it sinicized itself eventually. Qing is basically dynasty made by Manchu people but over time they are so assimillated to chinese culture and that's the only reason they can be called as China. For the sake specificity, Mongols were ally in the administration of Qing dynasty. That's why Mongols fought many wars for Qing as a part of agreement of ally. PS: If you want to explain something, at least take the fact correctly please. There's tons of nuances but you ignored all of them by just believing plain Chinese perspective.
stupid , before Qing ，Manchus were administered by Ming government and we call them “建州女真” , Aisin Gioro爱新觉罗 family was the official of Ming dynasty , and Nurhachi (努尔哈赤）正二品 龙虎将军 conferred by the Ming imperial court .
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While writing this video I came across some really interesting stuff about Mongolia and names, which while interesting didn't fit with this video and could easily be their own videos! If you happen to be from Mongolia and watching this video feel free to get in touch over on twitter @NameExplainYT it could really help out. Even if you aren't from Mongolia follow me anyway!
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@@alexandrine1558, same, no hetero
Why Egypt called egypt
Mongolia has a similar name problem as Macedonia.
Correction at 2:00
The Qing dynasty was Manchurian, not Chinese. :)
Why is a part of the USA called (New) Mexico?
不应该这么说，因为蒙古原来也是和我们一个国家，这和美国侵略新墨西哥州不一样。
There are approximately 40 Frankfurts in USA
batuhan bilgen And many Dicks.
@@samlin3884 mongolia and inner mongolia never belong to china.. you guys are brainwash by your government...
@@duurenzaan2582 maybe bodywahsed to be more precise! you are welcome! XD
Fun fact: there are more mongols outside of Mongolia, in inner Mongolia China, than in Mongolia, Outer Mongolia
Nope, because many chinese people live in inner Mongolia that's why their population number is higher than Mongolia.
curiosity imagination
No there are more mongols in China than in Mongolia
@@duckymomo7935 nope, pure mongolians who are not mixed with chinese people are a few in numbers. Most of the inner mongolians are han chinese people.
@@curiosityimagination8118 Theres not such thing as "pure Mongols". They were originally just a bunch of nomads of different tribes gathered up to be called "Mongols"
Maybe curiosity imagination is a communist agent trying to sabotage the Southern Mongolian independence movement?
Mongolians in Inner Mongolia write in the vertical Mongolian script while those in (Outer) Mongolia write in Cyrillic.
That's only due to Russian influence last century.
true, I'm a mongol from IM. ᠦᠨᠡᠨ ᠰᠢᠦ᠃
Actually (outer) Mongolians can write Mongolian script
Huslen Amartuvshin Lmao. They can’t, bro
@@huslenamartuvshin9190 How? You have been to OM before?
Why Is A Part Of UK called Ireland? Simple answer: history.
as a person who work at 中国共产党 i say that everything we talk are actually true, you guys has been brain washed by the rest of the world ,Mongolia are actually made in china and Mongolia invaid the russia so the west were originally born by china and the east are also owned by china because they are asian
Because it's on the island of Ireland
Northern Ireland.
@@中国伟人习金平 墙内土逼差不多得了
@@中国伟人习金平 你绝对在反串
You Forgot That A Small Part Of Russia, The Tuva Republic I Believe, Is Also Considered Part Of Outer Mongolia.
Tuva is turkic country
@@КСИФИМ That May, Be So, But It's Still Considered Part Of Outer Mongolia.
Yup
We call them “tuvaa”
And buryat
I'm a Mongolian and I studied the origin of the name Mongolia in history class. We said there were 3 alternative theories, of which I liked the most is that Mongol simply referred to people living by the streams of Mon river ("gol" means river"). It is common still today in Mongolia to refer to group of people by the river they live by. Because we are landlocked, people naturally live along rivers for water source, and get named after them.
Man l can't even read the words that is writen by english even tho l live in mongolia
Yeah that is actually most logical reason
I have a question,, how do Mogolian feel about China, do you think China and Mongolia were "one country" before
@Hold My Airag 蒙古是华夏的一部分。
@@张水-n2d Are you from Taiwan?
Just like Bangladesh and indian bangal
Do you mean West Bengal?
@@fowlae4414 yep!
What about it? West Bengalis are Indians and not massacred like in Bangladesh. Indian and proud Bengali.
And Macedonia (the former Yugoslav republic and the Greek region).
I think the only difference is that West Bengal is Hindu and Bangladesh is Muslim.
Okay...
Inner Mongolia = Northern Ireland
Mongolia = Republic of Ireland
China = UK
You're welcome!
Maaz Amjad .
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maaz amjad actually it's a little different, uk never control Republic of Ireland for over 300years, but china did it. They separate because Russia want to take it as the security land between china and Russia
Kinda of. except for Mongolian in Mongolia is not trying to take back Inner Mongolia. They don't even consider people in Inner Mongolia as Monogolian.
actually, you're wrong. Ulster voted to be apart of UK.
uneducated idiots
A small correction, after the Mongolian Yuan dynasty fell from power in China, it was the Ming who took over. The ethnically Manchu Qing dynasty came into power after the Ming lost the Mandate of Heaven.
Monggu is not a part of Ming.
Ming dynasty never controled mongolia and inner mongolia.After Yuan dynasty lost control about China.IT went back its original homeland.and called "Bei Yuan".And after that.TILL qing dynasty.mongolian people always controled nowadays mongolia and inner mongolia...Ming dynasty never controled mongolia.
@@ghbao2916 Nobody said anything about them controlling Mongolia. We were clearly talking about China.
九初 and Qing was manchu not Chinese, China was Manchus colony
@Ron Lewenberg Losing the mandate of heaven means that people lose their faith in the dynasty thus many people uprising and the government become so weak that they can't control their subject (many traitors left unchecked) and the uprising. The successful uprising itself means that the government (dynasty) has lose the mandate of heaven and the failure of the uprising means that the government (dynasty) still has the mandate of heaven.
In China, if you want to change dynasty, it means the leader has to have the courage to put his life on the line; he/ she either change dynasty and become King or die. It's kind of like a test from the heaven.
I am a Manchu. Mongolia was also Chinese in the Qing Dynasty. China is a multi-ethnic country. We all consider ourselves Chinese, whether Han or Manchu
nah only u. im halh and i consider myself mongol not chinese
@@QWERTY-gp8fd That’s cuz u r form a barbaric land outside of China
建虏死🐴
Not only China took Inner Mongolia, Russia also took over Buriyat and Tuva from us.
Hi, I'm a Manchu. Mongol are our brothers. We are both from Altaic-Tungusic family.
Luckily Mongolia was ceded from China because a country too big would have more struggles trying to imprint full control
Shit up you are all ours.we are going to get our land back
buriad -mongolia.. tuba -mongolia.
Peter Li Then move to Moongolia
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Because the Ethnically Mongols People living there?
imperialism
And ethnically Han, Kazakh, Manchu, Korean, Xibe, Hui, Evenk, Nanai
there is a dessert called gobi dessert.south of the dessert is inner.north of the dessert is outer...in face before 1755,there is a west Mongolian in northern part of Xinjiang and part of Kazakstan before the Manchus genoside these western Mongolian peoples in 1755....
A lot of ethnic mongols live there, but most of them live in rural areas or just some grasslands.
I met a lot of ethnic mongols in rural places in Hailar, IM and most of them own a lot of cows and horses many of them set up businesses for tourists
Purevjargal Puujee they still exist, at least 4 million of them. However, they were forced to live simple lives by the Chinese government who doesn’t want them to become capable and independent. Millions of hän Chinese were flooded into Inner Mongolia to solidify China’s claim to the region and now han completely outnumber the mongols and they own all the business and economy. There are still Mongolians who fight against the han occupation but they are simply suppressed and silenced.
Never heard your theory on the name Mongol. The ones Mongolian scholars accept and teach in school are:
1. "Gol" means river even up to today since ancient times. Mon was an old name for a river. Even today we call people that "gols" and this "gols" by the river they live by
2. Mongol is based on the name of a military general during Xianbei tiems.
lmao xianbei.... you know that means siberia in Chinese right?
@@justalaugher 与西伯利亚无关，鲜卑是两千多年前存在于中国北方的游牧民族。这片土地先后存在过匈奴、鲜卑、突厥、契丹等民族。随着时间流逝，这些民族之间的血脉也互相融合。蒙古民族的起源（东胡、室韦）就在其中。
@@justalaugher 鮮卑 means Siberia? So Chinese historical records imply that 北魏 and its descendants are all from Siberia?
Seems like a reverse Macedonia 😅
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Outer and Inner Mongolia don't have a conflict about their name. The Greeks should learn a lesson of humility.
Not really.
Inner Mongolia has the same ethnic composition as Mongolia.
Macedoia is Slavs LARPing as Greek macedonians
@@vKazak8165 So you will give up your claims? Great!
I understand this is a simplistic map, but Qing dynasty China had Taiwan and Hainan too. I see that Hainan wasn't shown, but Taiwan could have been painted red in 2:00
Samoan Island you are right
And some parts of modern russia too
actually, Inner Mongolians are also called Kercin Mongolians, where the familly Ghengis Khan really came from, while the Outer Mongolians are Karka Mongolians(if I pronounced if right), from some marginal tribes. The nobles are still in Inner Mongolia, but nobles of Outer Mongolia has already been massacred by the Soviet Union.
Qing did lose Taiwan though. Could be after 1895 when the Qing dynasty of China ceded Taiwan Province in the Treaty of Shimonoseki.
In any case Taiwan is no longer part of China. 🇹🇼
Taiwan is Taiwan.
nowisthetimetochange You use a Chinese flag 🇹🇼 to represent taiwan, and stated “Taiwan is not a part of China” . So unconvincing...
Which Mongolia is Elisabeth the Patreon Saint of?
Fowlae Yes.
Both, of course!! (I'm thrilled!!!)
@@ewestner Are you Elisabeth? And if so, I'm jealous!
@@Jack-lm8ry I am!!! The one and only. :) I love Name Explain!
@@ewestner Holy moly I got commented on by Name Explain and the Patreon Saint? Oh my gosh!
why a part of America called Mexico.
uu uq cuz the Mexicans got shit on by the white people and their lands become part of ours
Cuz they lost a war so the usa bought a shit ton of territory from them
@@jonathanmam5198 americans aren't white they are black
and why is part of America called York
@@jonathanmam5198 yeah but notice how we taking Cali and Texas back. It’s basically Mexico now cuz you see them everywhere
Nearly 80%of Inner Mongolia is Han people. There are more Mongolian people living in the grassland.
> The Han nationality is 1893,5537, accounting for 78.74 %;
> The Mongolian people are 424,7815, accounting for 17.66%;
(Including the mixed race of the Han and the Mongolian people, the Hanhe Mongolian culture is more mixed)
> Other ethnic minorities are 86,5803, accounting for 3.60%.
inner Mongolia means Southern Mongolia, outer Mongolia means Northern Mongolia
1:47 MONGOL EMPIRE WAS THE LARGEST EMPIRE .
BRITISH EMPIRE WAS 90% DEADLAND
Hahahaha
I don't get your point, land is land.
Inner Mongolia was the area where the Chengis khan's bloodline khans herd. ..Later the Qing emperors succeeded as the great khan by conquering whole Mongolia and marrying former khan's daughters..Since then, hordes in Inner Mongolia became royal banner men that guard the Qing capital Beijing. So from the standpoint of the Qing capital, the area is inner and closer.
No it is just due to being inside of china and from chinese point of view.
china is always the refence point like center of the world. Middle Kingdom etc. names suggest this otherwise.0
@@odgiiv1 yes, but this is a Qing period creation.
odgiiv kh I hate you call qing As china, we are different.
The terms Inner Mongol and Outer Mongol are both meaning geographical and political. Geographically, Inner Mongols lies to the south of the Gobi desert, while Outer is to the north of the Gobi Desert. Politically, Inner Mongols are the early allay of Manchu through royal marriage. Qing empire was Manchu-Mongol alliance. this is a not only political and military alliance, but also royal marriage alliance. During their rise, Manchu leaders forged alliances with various Mongolian tribes such as the Horchin and the Chahars who were to be incorporated in the army of the Qing dynasty. The Manchu and Mongolian troops allied under the Qing fought alongside each other to conquer the Ming dynasty of China. later the khalhaa (so call outer Mongol) joins. Imperial marriage is based in politics. Powerful members of the imperial harem generally have powerful support outside the palace. Mongolian and Manchu are all powerful factions during Qing dynasty. Apparently, many people's knowledge about Mongolia is limited on Chinese fake history and propaganda press. Mongolia has never been a part of China. Vice-versa, China has been part of the Mongol empire. So-called Yuan dynasty is only a part of the Mongol empire. So-called Qing dynasty is Manchu-Mongol Alliance ruling China. Mongolia independence from Manchu Qing on December 28, 1911, even early than Chinese did. Unfortunately, most of the history of the Mongols was written by their enemies like Chinese, Persian, Arabian, Russian, western...That was why full of bias and prejudice.
The mongol empire was larger than the british empire
simonexhale yes
I thought the same thing. The British Empire was just more spread out.
The mongol empire is the largest empire in one land mass. The British Empire is the largest empire overall
@@hmoobmeeka i actually think british won cuz their enemies was weak
Yes, and if the Mongol and British Empires are still around today only the Mongols would score more medals at the Olympic Games due to the large numbers of Russians and Chinese winning among other nations they conquered.
When wish to have more land, because you know they don't have enough land, make my day 😁 😁 😁
Mongolia is Mongolia and no one dare to say mongolia is part of China or Russia Mongolia is the most beautiful place in the world I think
DISCLAIMER. Qing didn't overthrow the Mongols it was Ming, then Qing, later on, conquered Mongolia. Inner Mongolia is called "inner" because it is relatively close to the center of "middle kingdom" while outer Mongolia is further away. Republic of China(Taiwan) still claims the whole Mongolia (both inner and outer) as part of their territory.
Superpower Dragon Does The R.O.C also claim Tuva?
Yes, and parts of Tajikistan too
Taiwan has recognized Mongolia as a independent country for some years now...
@@dulguunbuyanjargal7495 "Please recognize me. I recognize u! I am country, you am country. Sounds fair?”
Yet Taiwan is NOT a member of UN
I think I might know why it is called INNER Mongolia.
If I remember correctly, ancient Chinese believed that the closer one got to the center of the world, in this case China, the more civilized it became and vise versa for the uncivilized. Well, since Inner Mongolia is closer to the "center" of civilization, it might be considered closer to the inner part of the circle. Thus making it Inner Mongolia. The same can be said, but in reverse, for why some Chinese call Mongolia and Outer Mongolia.
Mongolia is the ruler of Italy since the Huns successfully captured Rome /s
The name "Mongol" is originated from the phrase "Monkh Tengeriin Gal" which means "The Fire of Eternal Sky" later it became "MonkhGal". Even you can see "Moon, Sun, Flame in blue" in old Mongolian flag.
wow, im mongolian and I didn't know this!! that sounds so beautiful
That’s not right because that was during the time on Guyug Khan and Mongolia still existed before hin
Fun fact mongolia has a navy
北海舰队
蒙古舰队>>>中国航队
@@mkx9494 Yeah, and Mongolia Navy >>> US Navy
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A part of Belgium is called Luxembourg
Thank you very cool
"Thank you NameExplain, very cool!" you mean
I can't be sure but I had always thought that China called their Mongolia "Inner" and the independent one "Outer" because the Chinese name for China is "Zhōngguó", which means something like "Middle Kingdom", "Centre Realm", "Core Country", reflecting the ancient viewpoint that China represented the middle of the world. I took it to be that Inner Mongolia is "Inner" for being, literally and metaphorically, closer to the Chinese heartland.
Correct. This is not unique to China, however, many states mapped their state in the center in a "circular" way and thus marked territories accordingly. For example, "Germania Superior" and "Germania Inferior" are east and west accordingly, but in circular maps of the Roman empire with the city of Rome in the center, Germania Superior was "above" or "outer" while Germania Inferior was "below" or "inner".
It's used to be one, the separated. Inner means the part that inside China.
Germania Inferior/Superior more likely refers to elevation and downstream/upstream.
@@anaphysik The upstream/downstream is a useful association, not necessarily the logic applied for the naming. There was also Britannia Superior and Britannia Inferior that didn't follow any such geographical conventions.
The higher/lower elevation is also dubious, given that aside from Britannia being a counterexample again, Pannonia Inferior and Pannonia Superior were also not much different in elevation (even though admittedly the upstream/downstream one applies for the Danube).
kind of true. as a chinese native, for me inner mongolia is like "mongolia within china", while outer mongolia is like "mongolia outside of china". just from the name of these two xD
The real reason Southern Mongolia is called "Inner Mongolia" is that, that part of Mongolia was first defeated by Manchus.
You know Manchus are not Chinese people, calling them Chinese Dynasty is actually bit off. They're Manchu Dynasty.
Well now they're part of China's 56 ethnics. At that time, they were different race.
Before they become Manchu Dynasty, they were just small tribe. They defeated southern part of Mongols and northern China like out of nowhere. Both Mongols and China didn't expect it.
And since that part of Mongols is "inside" of Manchu territory, they called it "Inner Mongolia". Then they called parts which they didn't take over as "Outer Mongolia".
Eventually they defeated all Mongols and all China, took their land and called their country as Great Qyng Dynasty or Manchu Qyng Dynasty.
Fun fact:
At first, their written language were more like Mongolian traditional written system. Then they have changed it to Chinese Mandarin somehow.
Chinese here , and I am agree with you， so about you last sentence, U can understand that way; During Qing dynasty, Manchu people lost their language( influence by Chinese)and Chinese and Mongols lost their Customs（ strong influence by Manchu)
I think It's better to replace "Manchu are not Chinese" with "Manchu are not Han". You know there's no ethnic called "Chinese" in China. Most of time Manchu can be called Chinese too.
@@林汉娜-b7p all citizens of china are chinese. All 56 ethnic groups in china are chinese. Han chinese are not only chinese in china. Though for most history they dominate various dynast.
@@kevinhu8415 by chinese you mean han chinese! Right!
“You know Manchus are not Chinese people”, Emperor Kangxi, Emperor Yongzheng, and Emperor Qianlong disagree.
China is not a ethno-state. It actually is made up of quite many different ethnicities, and Mongolians are one of the largest ethnic groups living in China.
Han Chinese are like a billion the rest are Manchus Mongols Turkic Tibetan
@@shaaruboqalaf171 Yes, Depend on the data of Sixth time of population census(2010, the seenth will happen in 2020 Nov.), Han Chinese 1.22 billion, Manchus 10.3 million, Mongols 5.98 million, Tibetan 6.82 million
I don't know the "Turkic" means , because if you mean the nations who have Tujue(突厥) blood, that's very very confusion, if only lanuauges,Uygur 10.03 million,Qazaq 1.46 million, maybe some more but they are less than 1 million, I'm not sure.
And is you mean the nation who has Tujue's blood, the 5 words you said exist Tibetan, all have that.
@@nyleeu2632 我忽然发现粤语的“突厥”发音跟英文Turkic 几乎一模一样，粤语跟古汉语的渊源很大，唐朝时的官话关于突厥的发音应该是很正确的。
so what？！poor jealous suckers
@@johanqian1858 Jealous? Mongolians are FREE, the most essential asset besides food and water. China has never had it in 5K years! Now, who's jealous?
I want to note that Qing Dynasty was Manchurian empire. Mongolian, Chinese, Manchurian, Tibetian and many other ethnic groups were part of it.
For Inner/Outer Mongolia term: Manchurians first occupied Southern Mongolia. From that moment, they had to segregate if they were talking about the Mongols within their influence or not. So, they started using the Inner/Outer Mongolia terminology since mid-17th century. So, Inner Mongolia means, basically, Mongolia in Manchurian Qing Dynasty.
However, all Mongolians in any country don’t use Inner Mongolia term. Instead, they call “Uvur Mongol”, which literally means “Southern Mongolia”.
Actually when manchu qing empire fell mongolia wanted independence but because of pressure from stalin and mao there was 3 parts meeting on the border city of kyakhta. Agreement was Russia taking buryats kizil norther kazakstan area and China taking innermongol and uighurs for recognizing only khalkha mongol independence.
replace chinese with han.
@@apotato3483 then what about other 40+ ethnic minority?
I am a han manchu mixed ,I love entire Chinese ,all Chinese ,mogolian Chinese ,tibetan Chinese Korean Chinese .....I love mogolian ,no matter inner or outer mogolian they are same to me .and I looks like mogolian ,when I traveled in erlianhaote city inner mogolia ,those outer mogolian speak mogolian language to me ! OK ,maybe one of my ancestors were mogolian manchu ?who cares ,I love you all .just wish outer mogolian people can have a good life ,when I heard outer mogolian suffer for poverty really make me feel broken heart .
中国的龙文化起源于蒙古？吕布是蒙古人？呵呵
GDP of Mongolia = $11.5 billion
GDP of Inner Mongolia = $255 billion
Independence hasn't worked out so well...
First GDP of Mongolia 13.6B. Second Independence is not so GDP.
Actually when manchu qing empire fell mongolia wanted independence but because of pressure from stalin and mao there was 3 parts meeting on the border city of kyakhta. Agreement was Russia taking buryats kizil norther kazakstan area and China taking innermongol and uighurs for recognizing only khalkha mongol independence.
Most people in China today want Outer Mongolia to stay independent. I agree. Some naive nationalists want to annex Outer Mongolia, but Mongolian friends please don’t listen to them. Most of us just want friendly relations, healthy trade flow, and exchange of cultures.
thank you
that would be great
就这么被你代表了
Mongolia is a good buffer state for China and Russia.
请不要代表中国人，don' t represent Chinese .
But top families or so called"Golden families" are in inner Mongolia.
No in inner Mongolia, top families must be descentends of Khasar, Chinggis's brother. Only Chinggis's direct descentends are golden family. Therefore no. They are in Mongolia.
Those who opposed the Russians were killed, and some fled to Inner Mongolia. Both Mongolia and Inner Mongolia claimed that they were aristocratic inheritors, Mongolian lost Mongolian, Language is Russian-based, and Inner Mongolia still preserved Mongolian. I am a Chinese Han.
石燕飞 Are you from China yourself?
who said that??? lol
石燕飞 Our languege is Mongol in orgin and practice
I'm Buryad-Mongol from Khongoodor Tribe (same Kongrat). We belive that we are all sons of Borte Chino from Kiyad Tribe and Chonos Tribe (Nokhos). The word "Mongol" is created by two Mongolian words: "Monkh" means "Eternal" and "Gol" - "Kernel". This means that we are the real Tribes who continues our blood line, keep true traditions of nomad life and believe in Tengri (Sky).
Also I see in coments about the word "Siberia". Siberia is mean "impenetrable forest"
dear... “inner” in Inner Mongolia means it’s closer to the main part inner core of the traditional Han Chinese ruling territory, put it plainly it’s closer to BEIJING so it’s called inner...
You forgot about the Bogd Khanate that existed between the Qing Dynasty and the Mongolian people's republic.
The names "Inner Mongolia" and "Outer Mongolia" were created by the Qing Dynasty, whose capital city was Shenyang and later Beijing. Inner Mongolia is the "Inner" one because it's closer to the two capital cities.
Well Shenyang is a Chinese name, the original name is Mukden.
Good explanation 👍
There is a place near me called "Hope Cove". It is comprised of two other places "Inner Hope" and "Outer Hope". Inner Hope actually surrounds Outer Hope. So it could be some sort of weird English naming thing or even a Celtic thing.
It’s like Ireland (independent country) vs Northern Ireland (part of UK).
Mongolia has a weird naming convention seriously look it up there are no family names
mzk timekiller this is something I did stumble across while writing this video. As I said in the pinned comment I think more Mongolia related videos will happen on day!
Thailand's naming convention is also quite interesting cuz each and every unrelated Thai family has a unique last name and that is required by law!
@Džudžan Nope, you didn't understand. In Thailand if two people have same last name then it definitely means they're from the same family. This is not necessarily true elsewhere in the world where there's a two or three name system. For example, in America, if two people have the same last name then they may or may not be blood related. On the other hand, in Thailand, these two people are guaranteed to be blood related. And that's by law, not coincidence.
eeerrrr.... my mother is mongolian and she had a maiden name... so_
Interesting... I'm not sure how you'd go about enforcing such a law... But it might be just possible
inner Mongolian write Mongolian，but outer Mongolian write Russian characters。thats why they are called outer Mongolia，they forgot Mongolian history。
huh its called Cyrillic and Mongolian language is different than Russian, outer Mongolia is trying to revive the old mongolian script now
Says the one whose name is Chinese. Lmao. We might be forgot our history but we ain't forgetting who we are.
They really love to shout "we are the real Mongols" while being fucked by Chinese in the ass. We are poor but we have a border. And we have our own law and independence.
Zetta
Mongols are better off joining China. It’s beneficial for the economy of Mongolia and the development of life in Mongolia.
@@yusadani755 if that happen then outer mongolia will be genocided. You do not even know what happened during the inner mongolia became part of china.
@@yusadani755 Yeah but that's exactly why China doesn't want Mongolia to join nowadays. China will have to invest trillions into Mongolia's infastructure and military to deal with the Russians.
Sounds like the speaker is also a descendent from Mongol too. There are Mongols in Russia, Central Asia and the rest of the world too.
Fun fact. GDP comparison. Outer vs inner Mongolia: Usd 12 bil vs 250 bil by 2014. Similar to North vs South Korea
There are other parts of Mongolia : republic of Buryatia in Russia federation, Bayingolin Prefecture in Xinjiang, china, and Haixi Prefecture in Qinghai, china.
You didn't put Taiwan in Qing Dynasty 's map and Chinese map
Qing did lose Taiwan though. Could be after 1895 when the Qing dynasty of China ceded Taiwan Province in the Treaty of Shimonoseki.
In any case Taiwan is no longer part of China. 🇹🇼
Taiwan is Taiwan.
Haha taiwan is like a hongkong we arw not chinnese whaat mma man hold up youre native language is china ok then think yu people china
You should ask why China lost Outer Mongolia ？
Imagine thinking New Mexico is more Mexican than Mexico.
That's not the empire of genghis khan. He never conquered china. His grandson kublai conquered china and started the yuan dynasty
Chinggis Han conquered The Xixia and Jin Dynasties of China and fought the Song Dynasty, but it wasn't until Kubilai Han that the Song Dynasty was conquered, so the map in the video isn't when Chinggis Han was alive.
do a video about Libya, Liberia & Liban name similarities!
Vali Tsunami libtards
They aren’t similar at all...
Liberia is US for liberated slaves in the Back to Africa movement going on under the US, under Monroe hence Monrovia capital.
Libya is completely different
Do you mean Lebanon and not Liban?
Btw Qing Dynasty also included Taiwan, that’s how the Republic of China got Taiwan 🇹🇼
@Thieuhua Co Guess who survived all the way down.And who vanished in the long history river
kaiwuling nianlafa Who?
A Worm named Scoobis Me
Inner Mongolia's script looks awesome!
Dee Ca. Cyrillic too.
So why the outter Mongolia is using Russian Cyrillic alphabet??? What is even that? If a country and a civilization can not sustain its own culture, why is still called Mongolia? Today's out Mongolia should be called Mongoussia or Mongolian trators. On the contrary, the Mongolia script and Chinese were the official language for the Yuan Dynasty, which was founded by the 5th Khgan-empror of the Mogol Empire, Kublai Kghan. These two languages are still being used in inner Mongolia, China. China's inner Mongolia sustains the culture and tradition of the Great Mongolia empire, and is the real Mongolia. Who cares how many Genghis Khans' descendants live in the out Mongolia? There might be more England and Irish descends living in the US, why don't we call the US or New York UK or Irland?
The situation is very similar to Macedonia. Old Macedonia was a large area and nowadays the land belongs to Greece, Republic of Macedonia and Bulgaria. Similarly, Old Mongolia was a large area and nowadays the land belongs to Mongolia, China (InnerMongolia) and Russia （Tuva Republic).
When the Chinese ruled the region (at least during the Qing and early Republic of China), Inner Mongolia is was called “inner” because its closer to the center (han populated China). It was also more populated and divided into several different provinces. Outer Mongolia was a distant pastoral wilderness further from the centre of Han rule, and thereby the name. Many other places in east Asia has such names, such as Xin Jiang (New Frontier, and in ancient times Xiyu=western territories), Tibet (Western “Weald/collect-/stack up of(mountains?)), Vietnam (further south), Korea (but only Choson, fresh dawn), and ofc japan
How the nation of Mongolia as an independent country didn’t include Inner Mongolia I think had to do with either Sun Yat Sen or Yuan Shikai ceding only the Outer Mongolia region to Russia, but I haven’t looked this up.
There are approximately 5.8 million Mongolian (ethnic) in China, and (outer) Mongolia have just 3.1 million entire population.
Also, the Mongolia nation abandons the traditional vertical Mongolian script.
So, the Inner Mongolia province in China is more likely the orthodox; and the Mongolia Nation actually should use the name "Outer Mongolia".
no, we're fine with Mongolia. Also we were forced to change our alphabet, but never abandoned as it is still taught in schools.
@@tobiasit2190 Khalkha is a better name for you. Because real Mongolian is in China. Mongol Empire golden family is in Inner Mongolia. Khalkha Mongolia is the fake one. Slaves and severants.
@@mydad4332 You forgot real Mongolians are nomadic people which lives in current Mongolia and not slaves or servants like han chinese.
@@mydad4332 What golden family? and you have to be a noble to be Mongolian? i suppose all the Hans are really not Hans since you guys were mostly peasants on the farm for five thousand years.
Those Mongols in Mongolia should be part of our nation. Your government banned nomadic life which is our way of life for thousands of years and yet you claim to have "real" Mongols. Don't make me laugh. The thing that makes a person Mongol isn't blood, its culture. Unfortunately Mongols in China are losing their connection to our great culture. Swallowed by Hans. It may say Mongol on their citizen card, but if they don't speak our language or even know our history then they're not Mongol.
@@tobiasit2190 golden family is Mongol Empire royal family, did not you know, Khalkha slave? Do you still have dignity when you adopt Russian culture and abondon tronditional Mongonl cuture? Note that Mongolian Chinese are Chinese citizens not dirty, poor, uneducated Outer Khalkha ones. Are you stupid or something, our government banned nomadic life? WTF! I don't give a f**k to you son. Can't you indeed silly enough to believe this shit, son? After century cluture break forced by Russian. That's why every year your Khalkha sent students to Hohhot, Inner Mongolia study standard Mogolian, Khorchin Mogolian.But can you really master? You are almost Russian now without Mongolian Chinese studying you. But you are lucky, a bunths of fake Mongolian even have chances to learn REAL Mongolian, rather than Russian and wired, funny Khalkha dailect. You should apprecite that China give a oppotunity to you to be study Mongolian. But as returns, please don't use Mongolia as your name cuz you are not qualified. Understand, son？
The Outer Mongolia once called by us Chinese people 漠北蒙古, Means Mongols north of the gobi desert, while the Inner Mongolia called 漠南蒙古, the mongols south of the gobi desert. The ones lives north of the desert were also called the “khalkha Mongols”. These are not two separate countries but a lot of tribes since the Mongolia was not unified after the collapse of the Mongolian empire. While the environment north and south of the desert is quite different, the mongol tribes lived there have some pretty different cultures. the Inner Mongolia was called this way because they live closer to us and considered Inner, they also have more political and economic relationships with the rest of China.
"中國/中華 CHINA" refers to the Chinese nation 中華民族 refers to the "Han nationality 漢族" (before 1949).
During the Qing Dynasty, the Han population was 99%. The Manchu population was less than 1% (and the Manchu Emperor of the Qing Dynasty also used the Han Totem "Dragon龍" of the Han nationality. They also learned the history of Han, Chinese 漢語and Chinese characters 漢字 ...). The Chinese official language and text are also Chinese and Chinese characters in Qing dynasty . At that time, most of the population of Inner Mongolia and Xinqiang areas were Han people (today is also). Most of the Tibetans were mixed races of Han and Tibetans (today ID cards are marked as Tibetan).
"The founding of the country in Japan only 150 years (after the 13th century, only the local Chinese palaces) and the" South Korea "founded for more than 70 years. Before that. It has always been Chinese territorial and local regimes. The official language is Chinese and Chinese characters.
Now most of the Chinese population is the Han nationality. The Han nationality is 92%. The other 54 ethnic minorities account for 8%.
2023:
Xinjiang has 55 ethnic groups. Han and Uyghur people have the largest population.
> The Han people are 109,20098, accounting for 42.24 %;
> The Uyghur people are 116,24257, accounting for 44.96%;
(Including some of the Han and Uyghur people mixed)
> The other ethnic minorities are 330,7990, accounting for 12.8 %.
Most of the Inner Mongolia people are Han people.
> The Han people are 1893,5537, accounting for 78.74 %;
> The Mongolian people are 424,7815, accounting for 17.66%;
(Including the mixed race of the Han and the Mongolian , There are more mixed culture of Han and Mongolia)
> Other ethnic minorities are 86,5803, accounting for 3.60%.
Unfortunately in inner Mongolia they are not pure they are mixed with Han and that apparently counts them as 'Mongol', In Mongolia you can see a distinct feature in their appearances whilst in Inner Mongolia they literally look like Han Chinese people. The Mongol script is based from the Uyghur Script so there has never been a traditional Mongolian alphabet, the Cyrillic alphabet is easier to write and would be less hassle in comparison to the Uighur script which would only be used in inner Mongolia. Now according to The Chinese government, Mongols outnumber us in our own homeland but I assure you if you are someone who has been to inner Mongolia and Mongolia you will most likely see these so called mongols not even knowing Mongolian or they literally look like a Han Chinese person. I respect our neighbors but you Chinese really don't know how your government treat the minorities in your country, Uyghurs, Kazakhs, Mongols and Tibetans are soon going to be ethnic Han because of forced rape and the forced chinese interim camps that try to make them more suited for the Han chinese society.
Mongols not only lives in Inner Mongolia , also Xinjiang , Gansu , Qinghai etc , and you have a huge misunderstanding of China 's ethnic policy .
@@lx6461 Ok and what policy is that since you know so much about your government? We are talking about Inner Mongolia not East Turkestan or Tibet, you should talk to the refugees that go to the west especially Canada. Stop assuming and know your facts, your government have this policy where if there minorities do not fit the ideas of a Han chinese then they will rape you, brain wash you or put up little interim camps across your country. not to forget the false imprisonment and illegal executions. You say in inner Mongolia mongols get to practice there traditions yet scholars and nationalists get fucked over.
@@TheGrip9 Shame on you fucking Western CIA , who will use the “ East Turkestan ” term ? stop yours useless gibberish , everybody knows the USA wants to make China much more smaller by supporting all sorts of separatistism
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@@TheGrip9 China better drop US debt while it still can to finish this evil America empire off once for all .
I think Genghis was really very lucky that he did not encounter the military force of 1 million men led by our Chinese War Emperor Qin Shih Huang Di in 200 BC. At that time we Chinese had already invented mechanic bows that could shoot multiple strong arrows in seconds from huge distances. If the arrows were fitted with poison, it must be the deadliest weapon invented by mankind. The modern machine gun cannot match with these deadly arrows that can be shot from far distances and kill people like flies. Genghis´ Mongolian army would be looking like hedgehogs and destroyed by our Chinese Qin army in minutes before they managed to ride forward on their small ponies. Our Chinese War Emperor Qin Shih Huang Di is the real hero of all mankind, he spent only a few years to build the Great Wall, and also a few years to unify the whole of China.....
dr. Henning Hai Lee Yang a modern gun being outmatched by crossbows made your whole propaganda comment funny
Bruh why u saying our chinese when ur referring to people who lived 2k years ago. China was invented couple centuries back. Keep ur facts straight. Thats is very misleading.
Using traditional scripts makes the Mongols in china more Mongol than the Mongols in Mongolia?
Wouldn't that make Taiwan more Chinese than PRC? It's not like we changed the script because we wanted to forgot our identity. We just had to change it, we were soviet satelite, remember?
简体字中国自古以来就有，你们那西里尔文字是苏俄强加给你们的
@Lx北
teneg novsh chin yu geed bgaa mu hujaa be. Chi kanzaa heregle zaa bi mongoloor chamair helii zaa youtube hujaanar ban baijeej uhtlee orj irhiimaa
@@heather7317 naad hujaa sda chini haa saigui, manaikhyg hyatadynh geed, shijgiin umhii yum!
@@b.8087 malnudaa eroosoo tm um bicheegu bn naad hujaa chn google translate hiiged uzech
Why are you ignoring that part of Mongolia which currently lies in Russia?
Nice video
The word Inner/Outer comes from a Qing classification of:
•"Inner-governed Mongolia" consist of Chahar, Hohhot Tumd, Uliastai, Tuva, Kobd, Alxaa/Ejin, Barag, Qinghai-Tibetan Mongols and Xinjiang Mongols etc.
•"Inner Autonomous Outlying Mongolia" which is pretty much the rest of Inner Mongolia except for Alxaa League and Holonbuir.
*"Outer Autonomous Outlying Mongolia" which consists of the rest of Outer Mongolia.
Mongolia the state totally revoked this Manchu classification while China the People's Republic partially revoked the Manchu classification, with the term Inner redefined to "front" in Mongolian and "inner" in Mandarin (most Manchus use either Northeast Mandarin or Horchin Mongolian so nobody cares what it is called in Manchu). A similar case is in Mongolia they complete removed the 4 Leagues + Kobd administration into dozens of aimags while in Inner Mongolia a league was redefined to an aimag in Mongolian and meng in Mandarin, although 8 of the 11 leagues were eventually remade into cities step by step.
Just one correction, uliastai tuva and khovd (kobd) was apart of the outer mongolian governed areas. Another thing is in outer mongolia we had VERY small population for VERY large land meaning it would be harder to rule the people, so unlike in inner mongolia the manchu qing emperors made puppet rulers in outer mongolia made of chingissid bloodline based in one small trading outpost that is now ulaanbaatar.
@@unodos.4557 Territorially yes Tuva and Kobdo were in Outer Mongolia; administratively not, they were subject to different order.
Qing's rule in Outer Mongolia is nlt aas direct as that in Inner Mongolia, but I don't think that's due to "large land with small population". Yes Outer Mongolia is sparsely populated but there's really no logic link here.
It's 21st century, so it's better to take Chinggis Khan spirit instead of emphasizing "Chinggisid bloodline". If we all keep our eye on blood then there is no Mongols but the Chakhar imperial house, as all others such as Khalkha and Ordos are led by sideline kings. Chinggis Khan succeed to unite the grassland because he held the idea that all in the grassland are equal, so solely looking at Chinggisid bloodline would be a betrayal of Chinggis Khan spirit.
The term and ideas of Inner and Outer Mongolia are believed to have emerged in early 20th century after the Russo-Japanese War of 1905. At the Treaty of Portsmouth the two sides divided up their spheres of influence like the old boys did back then. Prior to the war the Russian Empire controlled most of northern Qing dynasty, but with 1895 Sino-Japanese War the Empire of Japan came to colonize Taiwan and take control of the whole of Choson, which was Korea in its whole. So the two empires came to direct contact with each others' spheres of influence.
Russians lost, the Japanese won. So they had to redraw the spheres of influence and who controls what. Russians would sit tightly in Tannu Tuva (Uriyanqai) Frontier, Khovd Frontier, Jasagtu Khan aimag. Sayin Noyan Khan aimag, Tushiyetu Khan aimag and Secen Khan aimag - basically what is now Mongolia plus Tuva Republic and northeastern parts of Xinjiang (or southern Altai mountains). The Japanese would seize control of Manchuria directly north of Korea and Southern Mongol principalities (basically Inner Mongolia).
This is what is taught in schools in Mongolia, still framed as Western and Japanese imperialism, as it was during socialism.
Is there an Inside-out Mongolia?
It's all in your head.
Inner Mongolia is inner because it's closer to the seat of the Mongol-ruled Yuan Dynasty, whose capital was modern-day Beijing.
North Mongolia is Mongolia
South Mongolia is Inner Mongolia
North Mongolia is Outer Khalkha
South Mongolia is Inner Mongolia + West Mongolia
You forgot to mention that there are more Mongolians living in China than in Outer Mongolia :P
Besides that, it's a great video overall, keep it up!
and the Mongolians in China still use traditional Mongolian script
Yeah but inner mongolians would be barely called Mongolians because they are mixed with han chinese, thus they have a heavy chinese accent😂😄🤔.
Asiama Pachuau I think in Russia it’s more Mongolic and Para-Mongolic people than Mongolian
@@fybrogen7473 how do you know what ancient Mongolian sounded like? Since Inner Mongolia still has the real Mongolian writing. And most believe it’s the outer Mongolians that has Russian accent.
@@hello_world704 outer mongolians have russian accents? 😂😂😂 they dont even speak russian. While nearly half of inner mongolian children u will meet in hohhot can’t even speak mongolian. Inner mongolians dont even know which tribes they belong to.
imagine getting to a video and it already reached millions of views
post made by early gang
Mon(day) Go(a)ls.
Clapping among the crowd ensues
Actually when manchu qing empire fell mongolia wanted independence but because of pressure from stalin and mao there was 3 parts meeting on the border city of kyakhta. Agreement was Russia taking buryats kizil norther kazakstan area and China taking innermongol and uighurs for recognizing only khalkha mongol independence.
People and tribes in inner mongolia were historically much closer to China than outer Mongolia, which fell to the influence of Russia
If you haven't done it yet, could you do a video about why there are multiple Guineas and Guinea-sounding variations (Guyana, French Guiana, etc.)?
Can anyone count how many times he says mongolia/mongol/mongols?
Eleven
23
9+10
"Inner" in relation to China perhaps?
Mongolia was used as a buffer state between China/USSR. Mao did not want to wage war to USSR to claim it back. CCP was weak back then and they viewed Mongolia as not much useful in terms of economics. Today's Mongolia economy is solely dependent on China. I think the Mongolia gov't will collapse soon which might see the country join China or Russia.
The thing is, neither China nor Russia want Mongolia at this stage
MAO never owned Mongolia wtf !!! claim it back ???
Very interesting. Thank you.
Khamag mongol is the name of Temujin (later known as genghis khan or Chinggis Khan) tribe, the one who united the nomadic once gokturk tribes of the steppe like the tartars, merits, and khuviars, khamag mongol also means whole mongol
The reason the Chinese region is "inner" and the independent country is "outer" is because they are named so in a sinocentric point of view... during the Qing dynasty.
Manchu people was the first-class citizen and the Mongols at the time were only below Manchu in terms of social class. The ordinary Han-Chinese people were the lowest class so I'm not really sure the 'sinocentric' past.
@ You could also argue the two ethnic groups both are heavily influenced by one another. Han Chinese also adopted much Manchu life style.
@@monopalisa619 Yes. Back then the hairstyle and half of the cloth. Basically, back then Chinese are Manchu hairstyle and cloth with Han Confucius ideologies.
Also, if you trace all the way back before Han dynasty, the definition of Han is someone who believe in Confucianism and mandate of heaven, etc and it is a cultural concept.
Basically the such debate has already ended like 100 years ago. It is now all Chinese now. Also, if someone tell us Manchu is not China, we Manchus will be the first group to kick their ass before Han.
The narrative of China as a civilization state is pretty solid. I understand someone try to put this race=nation ethno-state concept. Sorry, that won't work for China, because the Chinese identity is not build on race. It is based on cultural. As Confucius said few thousand years ago:
诸侯用夷礼则夷之，夷而进于中国则中国之
Basically , it means non-Chinese will become Chinese if they follow the Chinese cultural; also Chinese will become non-Chinese if they don't follow the culture.
Now Back to Manchus, you can argue that at very early Qing dynasty, they are not Chinese, because Manchus didn't follow the Chinese tradition . However, as the time progressed and they realize they need to rule a lot of people, they start to adopt Confucius values. Frankly speaking, because they are a minority, so they even try harder to follow the Confucius value than the Han. Therefore, in middle and later QIng, they somehow fully assimilated and cannot distinguish themselves from the Han.
Similar things happened in England as well. The House of Windsor come from Germany originally, but due to assimilation. They are English now. If you agree that Queen of Britain is a German, then probably your logic would work.
This name explain guy is kind of suspicious. His accent is unusual, he is trying sound British but again suspicious...he is doesn’t know history, if he doesn’t know history, it has be impossible or unexplainable? What the hell he is even trying to say? And whole bunch of Chinese guys claiming Mongol as Chinese....really?
Used to love his videos, but this explanation is a disappointment.
Inner Mongolia has been a part of China for a long time. If you guys have played dynasty warriors or know the history of the three kingdoms period of China, you must be familiar with the name Lu Bu. Lu Bu if from inner Momgolia, his hometown's name was Jiu Yuan back then and it is called Bao Tou now.
2:00 no,it is Ming Dynasty, not Qin it's way back.
Chinese use the term inner and outer, in Mongolian, south of Gobi dessert is South Mongolia, and north of Gobi dessert is North Mongolia.
Outer Mongolia used to be called Khalka Mongolia while they were still part of China (Qing dynasty).
Fun fact: there are actually more ethnic Mongolians living in Inner Mongolia than Mongolia itself. Inner Mongolia kept the Traditional script intact (Mongolian language, written vertically) while Outer Mongolia got completely Russified D:
Khalkha is the major tribe of outer mongolia. Inner mongolia is mixed with chahar horchin and bayad tribes. Even though inner mongolia has more mongols, khalkhas are the largest tribe of mongol peoples, hence being the only ones who managed to wiggle away an independence.
yeah, in order to become independent they had no choice but the adapt to Cyrillic and they even tried not to. But it happened. But in schools, they teach Mongolian scripts as a course. And Qing dynasty was never a Chinese dynasty its Machuranian Qing. During that time different ethnic groups were living far from each other and were living on their own lands until the Mao Zedong era. And saying that "Outer" Mongolia got completely Russified is not true. When I was there I did not fined any one speaking Russian. It has some Russian influence sure, but so does Inner Mongolia. But compared to Kzastan and other countries like that Mongolians barely speak Russian. And they kept their culture. And there are other Mongol ethnic people in Russia too. Republic of Kalmylks and Byriatia.
Qing dynasty was not China, instead it was Manchurian ruled. Mongolia has never been part of China. People seem to think Qing and Yuan was Chinese dynasty.
@@amgalanbe The Qing Dynasty was China. It was just the upper -level power of China and the Palace of the Palace by the Manchu. Just like the US President, it was replaced by a black man. But it is still the United States.
@@barbiebarbie1813 Qing Dynasty comprised of 5 nations of the time. Mongolia, China, Manchurian, Uyghur, Tibet. Now China thinks they inherited Qing and claimed the nations. Inner Mongolia, Uyghur and Tibet should be independent nations.
Here's a fun fact. For mainland China, outer Mongolia is not on the Chinese map ; but for Republic of China, the one in Taiwan right now, outer Mongolia is still on the Chinese map, the map of Republic of China. Cause allowing independence was agreed by the communist, not the ROC government... Also, outer Mongolian cannot write Mongolian, inner monglians do thou, and their language is on Chinese money as well
cos of yuan dynasty and yuan is chinese currency
False. They do write Mongolian, it's called Cyrillic Mongolian (Mongolian language written in Cyrillic script). Just like a lot of you Chinese can't write the Traditional Chinese characters anymore, but Taiwanese do. Would you say Chinese people cannot write Chinese?
@@baganatube Your comparison is false. The relationship between Cyrillic Mongolian and Vertical script is similar to Chinese character and Pinyin(romanized Chinese).
actually i’m mongolian and we can write both without any problem
Because nowadays it's ROC = Taiwan, Jinmen and Mazu. hence, Taiwan.
一邊一國
Cuz it's rightfully Genghis' territory
Genghis is dead lmao
@@fowlae4414 No shit Einstein.
Are in the Southern Mongolian independence movement?
Thomas Turner Actually, Chinese settled in this land a thousand years even before Mongol emerged in history, when the steppe was called Xiongnu.
Thomas Turner, it was, not anymore, similar to Hawaii and Alaska, can you dig that?
One fortune thing is that we had an ancient civilization next to us more than 1k years ago before we were able to record our own history. So based on ancient Chinese record, Mongol could mean "munkh gaal" which means "eternal fire" in our language.
To these people who say 'more Mongolian people in China', most of the Inner Mongolians are false or fake Mongolians just to get the minority benefits, they are Chinese. We have "Mongolians" like named 李建华, which means 'Lee' 'build' 'China', and that is a solid Chinese name which a Mongolian would never use.
@@borjiginhuborjigin2453 Not all Mongolians in China with Chinese style names are fake or mixed, at least 60% are still pure Mongolians, but culturally they are pretty much assimilated by Chinese, the famous Guinness giant Bao Xishun also uses Mandarin name but he is pure Mongolian.
@@borjiginhuborjigin2453 Don't be fooled by their names. Even Chinese people use English adopted names like John, Peter, George, Henry, etc. Does that mean they are not Chinese ethnically just because they have English names?
Hi from Hong Kong
When I was small the school teach us the country of Mongolia can Outer Mongolia, the inner Mongolia call Mongolia. It was really complicated when I grow up.
Chinese perspective. They Conquered by Manchu 1644, and manchu collapsed, they chinese think they were Manchu?
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means all Manchu Han Mongolian Hui Tibet' s land belongs to China and China inherited of Qing Dynasty.
+Lx北 👍
Ok, i am from Mongolia. Inner and outer name comes from Chinese Prospective! For China, Inner Mongolia is “nearer”. One thing! We hate this inner outer thing. Mongolia is Mongolia and the Supersedes all Mongol Empires
gantulga ganhuyag I am from innet mongolia. rubbish mongolia
Outer Mongolia‘s GDP not even higher a Chinese milk company😂
It's called Inner Mongolia because it is closer to China. The terms Outer Mongolia and Inner Mongolia are Chinese terms, or specifically Manchurian terms. The Qing rulers divided them because Inner Mongolians live beyond the Great wall but south of the Gobi desert. Their dialects are different too. In fact, Inner Mongolia itself has tons of dialects, sometimes almost incomprehensible. And not really, Inner Mongolians don't want to move out because Mongolia is a pretty much a shithole, sorry but that's just a reality. And Outer Mongolians don't want to live in Inner Mongolia because they don't want to live under the Chinese. I am not Mongolian, but this is what I heard from talking to Mongolian Chinese.
One thing incorrect is that in 1911, overthrow of Manchu empire which has nothing to do with the fascist China or the Chinese and manchus uses the same written scripts as mongols and Manchuria is their homeland.
Fascist China also defrauded the world and illegally occupied 7 independent countries(80% of the fascist China’s current landmass), such as Tibet, Mongolia, East Turkistan, Manchuria, Cantonia, Hong Kong, Macau and now threatening Taiwan and all those countries actually gifted to the fascist China by Stalin at the fall of the Cold War since 1945 to help Soviet Union against western invasion. I can say with 100% confidence that if it was not for Stalin’s support of the fascist China, Inber Mongolia, Tibet, Manchuria, East Turkistan and possibly Cantonia, Hong Kong, Macau, all would be independent by 1946 and we never had this Inner Mongolia nor Outer Mongolia issue... Stalin destroyed Eastern Europe, but his destruction here is far far bigger and much more heinous and worst part, he killed all the leaders and army of Manchuria, East Turkistan, Mongolia and then disarmed then totally and gave them free on a golden plate to the fascist China so that fascist China can have his back if the USA and west attacks him... This is just totally unbelievable... Yes, in return, fascist China fought the war with the USA in korea in the 1950s and fought the USA again in Vietnam in the 1960s as Stalin didn’t want to fight with the USA directly... but this sacrifice is the most heinous one and fascist China pretty much genocided most of Manchus, mongols, Tibetans, uyghurs and many other ethnic minorities and possibly genocided more than 300m of them over the years...
Overall, when the Cold War curtain fall in 1946, Stalin put at least 6 countries and 80% of the fascist china’s current landmass(not including Hong Kong and Macau) on a golden plate and gave it for free to the fascist China so that fascist China will have soviet union’s back when attacked by the west. Thus fascist China illegally occupied those countries without firing a shot. Specifically:
1. Stalin moved the entire Soviet army that sent to defeat the Hitler to the Siberia in August, 1945 and on August, 9th, 1945, two days before Japan officially surrendered, Soviet Union invaded the Manchuria with 1.6m army men against 1.1m Manchu and Japanese soldiers there. The war done within 3 weeks and they occupied Manchuria till the end of 1946, but as soon as the Cold War started in 1946, Stalin gave Manchuria to the fascist China so that they will be on Soviet Union side if there is a war breaks out with the west.
2. They gave Inner Mongolia to the fascist China on the same hope.
3. In 1946, East Turkistan had its army and almost close to liberate the entire East Turkistan from the remnants of the Manchu empire, Stalin immediately put pressure on East Turkistan not to advance instead negotiate with the remnants of the Manchuria. He, then 1949, using 3000 Soviet Union’s tupaliev planes, airlifted roughly 500,000 fascist China’s army to the East Turkistan and murdered all East Turkistan leaders and let fascist China to illegally occupy East Turkistan.
4. Britain and India would have defended Tibet in 1955, but Soviet Union threw their weight behind the fascist china threatening the west that if they suppprt Tibet, they will attack the west. just like that Soviet Union gave Tibet to the fascist China on a golden plate.
5. Cantonia, part of Thailand, Burma, Vietnam, India, Pakistan, were illegally occupied by the fascist China during the Cold War with the support of Stalin.
I hope this Trump and other future American Presidents will undo those illegal occupation of Manchuria, Mongolia, East Turkistan, Tibet , Hong Kong, Macau, Cantonia and make them fully independent countries and destroy this cancer on the entire humanity, the evil fascist China once for all!!
Wow, that is loads of bullsh*t
China is fascist? Based af.
Take a shot every time he says “Mongolia”
Technically speaking, Qing dynasty is not chinese until it sinicized itself eventually. Qing is basically dynasty made by Manchu people but over time they are so assimillated to chinese culture and that's the only reason they can be called as China. For the sake specificity, Mongols were ally in the administration of Qing dynasty. That's why Mongols fought many wars for Qing as a part of agreement of ally.
PS: If you want to explain something, at least take the fact correctly please. There's tons of nuances but you ignored all of them by just believing plain Chinese perspective.
stupid , before Qing ，Manchus were administered by Ming government and we call them “建州女真” , Aisin Gioro爱新觉罗 family was the official of Ming dynasty , and Nurhachi (努尔哈赤）正二品 龙虎将军 conferred by the Ming imperial court .
@@lx6461 okay, so you mean, chinese history or chinese state begins with Ming right? there was no preceding state before Ming. okay dokey.
@@ichkaodko7020 lol , , Han Tang Ming army .etc and also don't forget 徐树铮 general , we always occupied the land , understand ?
@@ichkaodko7020 outer mongolia is chinese territory ，you guys steal our land .
@@lx6461 do you see your own logic? then Manchu weren't han tang etc. or first chinese state were ming you got me cockroach?