A constructive suggestion for you guys. Take 2 bolts and cut the heads off and shorten the threads(or not) and point the non-threatening end and put them in at the 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock position to guide the brake unit into position as you install the unit. Guides it into place and no damage to the oring. Make life easier for you. Cheers
I did same thing different for my rear diff. Except used the metric 10.9 rod, I figured it should be 10" length when I read the instructions after I had done it they said 4 " as that length would not have kept the diff from rotating. As I did not want to have to redo the sealant RTV. Easier is usually better.
Thanks for making these videos. It's educational to learn how these machines are put together. Also great to see people who care about quality as they do their jobs.
We were all young and inexperienced to start with. Sad to see you made the same basic mistake on the second side too. Clean ALL cover mating surfaces and threads first BEFORE cleaning crankcase ONCE. I rarely had the luxury of a covered workshop, so I learned to use my brain to save me freezing or getting wet as much as possible while still doing the best job possible. When you need to use the torque wrench upwards, keep arms and back as straight as possible. Use the strength of both legs to avoid a skipped disc. Hope this helps you in your career. P.S. Get the broken screen replaced. Laminated screens break into large sharp, killing shards when they finally fail. Old toughened windscreens broke into tiny scratchy bits even though they were a pain.
Just a thought. When I needed to align big parts together, I would take a pair of long bolts, and the heads cut off. Thread the bolts into the housing and use it as an alignment pins. Much easy assemble, and less likely to damage o-rings or gaskets. Love the videos.
When I was a younger man living & working in WI, I did machinery service repairs, frequently at jobsites. For that kind of work I preferred the cold weather time of year because there was usually less ice water dripping down when i was working beneath the the machines. The cold was easier to deal with than the ice water shower.
There’s different levels of cold and heat. Here in Michigan I’d say 15-30F is nice working weather, even down to zero if there’s no wind. Add some wind and 30 can be nasty. Anything above 80 is just sweating for no reason weather.
I like this - a totally different view of the work that goes on in the yard. I can't imagine the 600ftlb torque - my RV has 450ftlbs on the lug studs and nuts, and if I didn't have a 5Xmultiplier I'd be sunk!
I used to drive school bus in L.A. One of the buses there had a Cummins horizontal 6 cyl., a 335 I think. Anyway it needed some valve work done on it and I remember a slender mechanic hanging on a cheater bar on the end of a 6' torque wrench trying to get to 600 ftlbs on the head bolts. That was funny!!
you should try a 1000ft lb tq wrench to tq the 4 bolts for the fwd transmission on a ch-47 helicopter. the bolts tq at 880ft lbs. the end caps that hold the horizontal hinge pin (flap up/down) on the rotor head tq at 420ft lbs and working on the aft pylon for the aft rotor head, we only have a 30"x30" work platform and is 17' in the air.
1000 foot pounds on combine wheel bolts. And they're sunk in about 3 feet, so you get a long extention, a big torque wrench, and a handyman jack to hold the extention up at the pivot point
@@RedDeadSpearhead Hey Has, it's neat to see the correct jack term used! "Handyman"! Not "hi-lift" or some such amateur term! As a kid on a Minnesota farm my Dad taught me a healthy respect for those things! Ever see one start ratcheting down by itself and fling the handle out? Just stand back and let 'er go!
Good vid Chap, if you want to save some time & ensure your not dropping crap back into the chain housing when cleaning out the threads, invest in a tap to wind in whilst you have a vacuum hose on the end of it inside the box. If your a cheap skate cut a slot along the thread on one of the old bolts and do the same. If you don't have a shop vac, please disregard this message. Have a nice day😊
Cold is probably the best of the two, super hot outside, you can’t escape that heat not to mention the health risks (granted there are risks with the cold temperatures). At least with the cold, you can always add more clothes and use things to keep warm
Good work guys. I had a issue with CAT over there cutting edge tips. They were warranted not to brake. They replaced them and told me I wasn’t using the correct torque on the bolts. I bought a CAT torque multiplier to satisfy the warranty. I did brake a few after that, they never questioned the replacement. I also put the multiplier to use on the elephant pad caps on my Mack trucks. Think they were 600 ft.lbs.They are expensive, but worth the investment. Thanks for the video.
And people wonder why heavy equipment repairs and maintenance cost so much! Not too many people have the knowledge or equipment to do it. I found your video to be very interresting. I have worked on farm equipment, but nothing near that size, but also usually outside and in cold weather! Definitely prefer hot weather if I have shade!
I have seen a motor grader physically bigger than this one out east at a mine in PA. I believe it was made by Champion but not 100% sure on that. It had a V-16 engine in it. The tires were the size of the ones on the large mine haul trucks. It was out of service when I saw it. This is impressive seeing you do this repair. I work outside a lot on locomotives. I prefer warm weather for the work. Dressed properly cold weather is tolerable to work in.
I remember doing the same job on a #12 Cat Grader by myself one winter at about zero degrees!! No truck crane or impact tools, just bust- ass work!! Sure is nice to have the modern tools of today!! You did a very nice and neat job!! Take it from an “Old Veteran Mechanic”!! I’d have you guys work for me anytime!!!
Just like over in the Sun River area, the weather changes all the time, great video, we watch yours , Cascade Heavy Rescue , 406 Garage, have Central Oregon covered, great videos
Field mechanic here, but you could use the pusher bolt holes with a lift eye instead of wrapping a strap all the way around. Then use long bolts with the heads cut off to get it started.
Ya, man, bent tubing not going back together will make you say really bad words, especially if you cross thread the nut. Then, the cutters and benders and unions and new fittings come out. With more cuss words, LOL.
I have worked in southern Alberta in the heat of summer, and in the cold and dark of Yellowknife in the winter. What I hate the most is the bugs , and the wind. But the bugs usually aren’t around when it’s windy.
Ya working out side in the cold is fine if you have the right gear. You need to keep moving to stay warm. I like it warmer now maybe because I’m older now ☺️
I was wondering when you said there were 2 chain's. I was thinking 1 chain to go around both finals. Then I figured out the drive is a double sprocket, hence the 2 chain's, 1 chain per wheel. What is the chain size? I've seen 100 chain and that was a wee bit bigger than 100. Glad I found you thru Cascade Heavy Rescue when you boys went to get your old pete. Love the old equipment. I've been a nut for trucks and equipment all my life. Currently a truck driver. I've been described as a "wheels turnin kinda guy".
That is why there is a shortage of truck, heavy equipment mechanics and utility linesmen. They have to work in the worse weather conditions outside, it is best suited to young guys.Are those front tires vee treads on backwards??
Normally run a seal pick around the o ring after it’s mounted on the component to make sure it’s not rolled, especially after rolling it up like that to lube it.
As long as it's not wet, I prefer working in the cold. It can be -40°, I'll just put more layers on. In summer I can only take so many layers off before people start calling the police.
Man YOU are DOIN IT MAN!!! 24H... The width of the moldboards probably wider n you are old! VERY IMPRESSED!!!! Must be cool working w the big iron! I am a carpenter from Ca and LOVE Yellow! Cheers and happy new year from Santa Cruz! Show us that C500 next please!
I like 76 degrees with a light breeze. Too bad I worked in an open pit w1th 110 to 120 degrees and no breeze. Now adays I wonder how I did it. We did the bolts on the undercarriage of a P&H cable shovel using a 4 foot long wrench and a Grove crane. I did help a mechanic torque the head bolts an a haul pack using a 4 to 1 multiplier which made the pulling easier but sure did add to the number of pulls.
Hated winter going up on the passes dot plows throwing salt and sand when you are trapped under the rig.get it back to the shop big chunks of ice and gritty snow melt and fall on you. So cold your fingers will not move untill you sit in the service truck and thaw them into submission. Much rather worry about heat issues than frostbite jobs for sure.
Think I have seen one of those monster graders like 20 years ago up in the great white north near the mountains plowing out the ditches into the farmers fields so they could plow the roads into the ditches. I'm fat and I hate the cold...I was -41 just over a week ago.
I ran a 24M at the coal mine l worked at. We had 2 of rhem. Good machines . That’s thing could move a windrow that the 16’s couldn’t even think of. That C18 had snort. I miss it
Looks like that you should've already had the chains installed after you put the first drive in by just slipping the chains over the first drives sprockets & stretch them out for the second drive sprockets
is not feasible to lay the chains in the walking beam first with a strap or mule tape attached to the end for the brake, and go ahead and run the other end over the final drive sprocket, then pull the brake end of the chain over that sprocket? i have never worked on a grader, don't know, so that is why im asking.
The manufacturers always seem to make things difficult to maintain. I watch a lot of these and when they produce a machine, it’s in a clean environment but after long use it is so much harder in the field to repair. Good job and great filming. 👍🏻🇦🇺😁
Let me know if you guys liked this one. Thanks for watching
Yes pleas more of them i love the heavy equipment repair especial big equipment and Caterpillar stuff pleas make more of them 👍
yes more of this bit more skill to reassembly then taking apart
I love seeing this kind of content
All videos are good to me. Have a good Happy new year
Yes this is awesome. Makes me want a big crane even more. A tour of your service truck would be cool.
A constructive suggestion for you guys. Take 2 bolts and cut the heads off and shorten the threads(or not) and point the non-threatening end and put them in at the 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock position to guide the brake unit into position as you install the unit. Guides it into place and no damage to the oring. Make life easier for you. Cheers
I did same thing different for my rear diff. Except used the metric 10.9 rod, I figured it should be 10" length when I read the instructions after I had done it they said 4 " as that length would not have kept the diff from rotating. As I did not want to have to redo the sealant RTV. Easier is usually better.
That was my first thought too, guides.
Thanks for making these videos. It's educational to learn how these machines are put together. Also great to see people who care about quality as they do their jobs.
Largest grader ever made was the Acco, by a very wide margin. 400,000 Ibs, 36 foot blade, 12 tires, twin engine, 1700 hp.
We were all young and inexperienced to start with. Sad to see you made the same basic mistake on the second side too. Clean ALL cover mating surfaces and threads first BEFORE cleaning crankcase ONCE. I rarely had the luxury of a covered workshop, so I learned to use my brain to save me freezing or getting wet as much as possible while still doing the best job possible. When you need to use the torque wrench upwards, keep arms and back as straight as possible. Use the strength of both legs to avoid a skipped disc. Hope this helps you in your career. P.S. Get the broken screen replaced. Laminated screens break into large sharp, killing shards when they finally fail. Old toughened windscreens broke into tiny scratchy bits even though they were a pain.
Just a thought. When I needed to align big parts together, I would take a pair of long bolts, and the heads cut off. Thread the bolts into the housing and use it as an alignment pins. Much easy assemble, and less likely to damage o-rings or gaskets. Love the videos.
When I was a younger man living & working in WI, I did machinery service repairs, frequently at jobsites. For that kind of work I preferred the cold weather time of year because there was usually less ice water dripping down when i was working beneath the the machines. The cold was easier to deal with than the ice water shower.
I like working when it spring time mild weather not hot, not cold, just right for working
I love people at work, it fascinates me, I can watch it for hours.😇
I’ve worked with a lot of people like that 😂
Love the 24M’s.
I have roughly 20,000 hours of seat time running those beasts.
Love seeing the big toys! Another great video!!
Thanks for watching!
Grate to see big iron Sent back to work , not just parted ,make a nice mix grate job
Hey Quinton !!! ""GET -R-DONE "" --No matter what the weather does !! Great video & Thanks !!! 🙃😊🤨🤔🤔👍👍👍👍👍
I prefer cold. Lol as long as the wind isn’t blowing like here in West Texas. You always take layers off to cool off if you get too hot.
There’s different levels of cold and heat. Here in Michigan I’d say 15-30F is nice working weather, even down to zero if there’s no wind. Add some wind and 30 can be nasty. Anything above 80 is just sweating for no reason weather.
I like this - a totally different view of the work that goes on in the yard. I can't imagine the 600ftlb torque - my RV has 450ftlbs on the lug studs and nuts, and if I didn't have a 5Xmultiplier I'd be sunk!
I was just thinking to myself that he needed a multiplier for that torque.
I used to drive school bus in L.A. One of the buses there had a Cummins horizontal 6 cyl., a 335 I think. Anyway it needed some valve work done on it and I remember a slender mechanic hanging on a cheater bar on the end of a 6' torque wrench trying to get to 600 ftlbs on the head bolts. That was funny!!
you should try a 1000ft lb tq wrench to tq the 4 bolts for the fwd transmission on a ch-47 helicopter. the bolts tq at 880ft lbs. the end caps that hold the horizontal hinge pin (flap up/down) on the rotor head tq at 420ft lbs and working on the aft pylon for the aft rotor head, we only have a 30"x30" work platform and is 17' in the air.
1000 foot pounds on combine wheel bolts. And they're sunk in about 3 feet, so you get a long extention, a big torque wrench, and a handyman jack to hold the extention up at the pivot point
@@RedDeadSpearhead Hey Has, it's neat to see the correct jack term used! "Handyman"! Not "hi-lift" or some such amateur term! As a kid on a Minnesota farm my Dad taught me a healthy respect for those things! Ever see one start ratcheting down by itself and fling the handle out? Just stand back and let 'er go!
Yep I used guide bolts on loader 992 988 and haul truck brake final drive assemblies
Cool video. Those are some massive roller chains
Great video! Excellent explanation of the operation of the various systems! Looking forward to seeing more!
Yes, I do enjoy seeing how you do and keep it all running. Gr8 videos
Pretty bad azz!.. Love watching this type of stuff.
Good vid Chap, if you want to save some time & ensure your not dropping crap back into the chain housing when cleaning out the threads, invest in a tap to wind in whilst you have a vacuum hose on the end of it inside the box.
If your a cheap skate cut a slot along the thread on one of the old bolts and do the same.
If you don't have a shop vac, please disregard this message.
Have a nice day😊
Cold is probably the best of the two, super hot outside, you can’t escape that heat not to mention the health risks (granted there are risks with the cold temperatures). At least with the cold, you can always add more clothes and use things to keep warm
I believe just the opposite, everything is such a process and takes so much long in the cold.
Yep you can only remove so many clothes before HR or cops are involved
Me being a Florida Cracker, I like the hot weather.
I don't move too well in cold weather.
Hello from Argentina!!!!! Great videos!!!
Hola!
Good work guys. I had a issue with CAT over there cutting edge tips. They were warranted not to brake. They replaced them and told me I wasn’t using the correct torque on the bolts. I bought a CAT torque multiplier to satisfy the warranty. I did brake a few after that, they never questioned the replacement. I also put the multiplier to use on the elephant pad caps on my Mack trucks. Think they were 600 ft.lbs.They are expensive, but worth the investment. Thanks for the video.
Very educational. Nice camera work. And that sweet o-ring lube trick... Great video!
And people wonder why heavy equipment repairs and maintenance cost so much!
Not too many people have the knowledge or equipment to do it.
I found your video to be very interresting. I have worked on farm equipment, but nothing near that size, but also usually outside and in cold weather! Definitely prefer hot weather if I have shade!
Looks like it was a nice day to be working outside, I'll take cold over hot any day!
I have seen a motor grader physically bigger than this one out east at a mine in PA. I believe it was made by Champion but not 100% sure on that. It had a V-16 engine in it. The tires were the size of the ones on the large mine haul trucks. It was out of service when I saw it. This is impressive seeing you do this repair. I work outside a lot on locomotives. I prefer warm weather for the work. Dressed properly cold weather is tolerable to work in.
You are right about that. The Champion is a little over 90 tons, there is one in working condition in Norway at a company called Rana Gruber.
@@dalarampen does that make this one, the largest grader in this part of the world?
@@SPUDHOME As far as i have found out it is the largest in the world, since the former largest is dismanteld..
Hardcore field work!
I’m very very impressed by your attention to detail and I guess you get a lot of repeat customers because of that 🏴👍🏻
Just as I was wondering how you install the chains....
Great job 👏
Very interesting how you service these large machines. I really enjoy watching to see what methods are used, it certainly can’t be easy. 🤔🤨😊
Fantastic guys, keep up the good work. Very impressive. 😂
Tuff video right here brotha yall was getting it done!!
I remember doing the same job on a #12 Cat Grader by myself one winter at about zero degrees!! No truck crane or impact tools, just bust- ass work!! Sure is nice to have the modern tools of today!! You did a very nice and neat job!! Take it from an “Old Veteran Mechanic”!! I’d have you guys work for me anytime!!!
Just like over in the Sun River area, the weather changes all the time, great video, we watch yours , Cascade Heavy Rescue , 406 Garage, have Central Oregon covered, great videos
Love seeing these types of videos
Cold any day of the week. But we don't get the snow like you guys do. Thats in Australia. Love the channel mate. HNY.
It's easier to find shade than try to get warm!
Yes 👍
how did you ever get started taking big stuff apart ?
Field mechanic here, but you could use the pusher bolt holes with a lift eye instead of wrapping a strap all the way around. Then use long bolts with the heads cut off to get it started.
I'm a feild tech in Arizona and I can say with 100% certainty that I'll take cold weather over hot lol I can warm up faster than cool down
QUIRY? would it not be more accurate and quicker/saer to the threads to slid these onto temp studs?
Ya, man, bent tubing not going back together will make you say really bad words, especially if you cross thread the nut. Then, the cutters and benders and unions and new fittings come out. With more cuss words, LOL.
Definitely had to cut some words out hahaha
Good video that looks like a big job.
Wonder if you should have tightend the bolts up lightly with a three quarter gun to make it easier to torque
One thing you boys could use is a nice size concrete slab to work on.
Yes thats for sure
Where are you based out of? I see the white capped mountains in the background, but no snow where you are working
Nevada and oregon
I am with you, I would rather the heat of a full summer day in the desert than have to work outdoors in the cold.
I was a field mechanic in Texas and the machine would either be freezing cold to the touch or burning hot depending on the weather.
Should the torque wrench not be longer to make it easier than putting all your weight on it?
Is there a part 2 for this 1? Thanks
The tool to lift the wheel group is mint! Could easily be replicated.
Some gravel or real surface to cover the slippery and sloppy mud you guys work on? What happens when things drop?
I have worked in southern Alberta in the heat of summer, and in the cold and dark of Yellowknife in the winter. What I hate the most is the bugs , and the wind. But the bugs usually aren’t around when it’s windy.
Yea I like this video can't wait until the next one
That’s really cool seeing how they work. Thanks for sharing
You need to make some guide pins for that kind of work!
Ya working out side in the cold is fine if you have the right gear. You need to keep moving to stay warm. I like it warmer now maybe because I’m older now ☺️
I want to see how you fit the drive chains in side the oil casing
Watch the whole video 👍
I was wondering when you said there were 2 chain's. I was thinking 1 chain to go around both finals. Then I figured out the drive is a double sprocket, hence the 2 chain's, 1 chain per wheel.
What is the chain size? I've seen 100 chain and that was a wee bit bigger than 100.
Glad I found you thru Cascade Heavy Rescue when you boys went to get your old pete.
Love the old equipment. I've been a nut for trucks and equipment all my life. Currently a truck driver. I've been described as a "wheels turnin kinda guy".
When you add Teflon to the threads, aren't you supposed to go less torque? Probably why the threads pulled.
Just found your channel. I’m digging your content. I’ll be watching more videos!!!!
Is this a Chain drive machine ?
Good video.
I’m sure I saw a cat grader, truck-drive, hell of a lot bigger then that one
FIRST TIME SEEING YOUR CONTENT! GREAT WORK BROTHER KEEP IT COMINGGGG!!!!!! MICHIGAN HERE!
Nice, our CAT 160M sitting without wheels in the shop, this coming Monday, we’ll be doing brakes on it too.
Looks like a cold place! Good video
Love the videos! I see a torque multiplier in your future. wow
You are the boss who doesn’t mind getting dirty. Great 👍🏿 job
Some time laps off the second side being dun would be nice
That is why there is a shortage of truck, heavy equipment mechanics and utility linesmen. They have to work in the worse weather conditions outside, it is best suited to young guys.Are those front tires vee treads on backwards??
Great video, I was wondering how they managed to get those large chains in. Btw. Champion 100T is the largest grader ever made. 24M is still a beast.
Look up the acco supper grader
Great video
Nice video, very interesting to see how these monsters are serviced, greetings from Finland
Makes me glad I only work on these at the Cat Tucson Proving Grounds in Arizona
A good video on Work Smarter, not Harder. Awesome video on great machine.
What was the oring lube you used? I normally use Parker lube but I can't find it in a tube that big
Normally run a seal pick around the o ring after it’s mounted on the component to make sure it’s not rolled, especially after rolling it up like that to lube it.
As long as it's not wet, I prefer working in the cold. It can be -40°, I'll just put more layers on. In summer I can only take so many layers off before people start calling the police.
Man YOU are DOIN IT MAN!!! 24H... The width of the moldboards probably wider n you are old! VERY IMPRESSED!!!! Must be cool working w the big iron! I am a carpenter from Ca and LOVE Yellow! Cheers and happy new year from Santa Cruz! Show us that C500 next please!
Great
Have a guess how big a ‘24’ h or m graders blade is 🤣
@@jayryan1956 24 ft YOU STRIKE ME AS A GO GETTIN IT GUY! LOVE YER GIG duder
I don't understand why you don't have a locating stud
I like 76 degrees with a light breeze. Too bad I worked in an open pit w1th 110 to 120 degrees and no breeze. Now adays I wonder how I did it. We did the bolts on the undercarriage of a P&H cable shovel using a 4 foot long wrench and a Grove crane. I did help a mechanic torque the head bolts an a haul pack using a 4 to 1 multiplier which made the pulling easier but sure did add to the number of pulls.
Cold nough to make a polder bear hunt cover. By the way it's 47F at Tinaja Hills this morning.
Hated winter going up on the passes dot plows throwing salt and sand when you are trapped under the rig.get it back to the shop big chunks of ice and gritty snow melt and fall on you. So cold your fingers will not move untill you sit in the service truck and thaw them into submission. Much rather worry about heat issues than frostbite jobs for sure.
Not one for finding faults on people, but you should have used flange management techniques for doing up those bolts.. still I enjoi the video
What size roller chain ? The biggest i found listed is 240 with a 3inch pitch that looks like 4 inches
240 XL
Think I have seen one of those monster graders like 20 years ago up in the great white north near the mountains plowing out the ditches into the farmers fields so they could plow the roads into the ditches.
I'm fat and I hate the cold...I was -41 just over a week ago.
I ran a 24M at the coal mine l worked at. We had 2 of rhem. Good machines . That’s thing could move a windrow that the 16’s couldn’t even think of. That C18 had snort. I miss it
Enjoyed this. Lots of hard work in varying conditions. Happy New Year to all!
I have a 1" drive torque wrench it goes up to 1500 Newtonmeter i can feel you guys hanging on that torque wrench 👍
Looks like that you should've already had the chains installed after you put the first drive in by just slipping the chains over the first drives sprockets & stretch them out for the second drive sprockets
How often (how many hrs) do these graders require brakes?
Every 14K hours
I love watching the videos you put out .. i wish I could work for you but because of health issues I'm not allowed to anymore
is not feasible to lay the chains in the walking beam first with a strap or mule tape attached to the end for the brake, and go ahead and run the other end over the final drive sprocket, then pull the brake end of the chain over that sprocket? i have never worked on a grader, don't know, so that is why im asking.
Where are the drive chains ?
The manufacturers always seem to make things difficult to maintain. I watch a lot of these and when they produce a machine, it’s in a clean environment but after long use it is so much harder in the field to repair. Good job and great filming. 👍🏻🇦🇺😁
Turn torque for drive hub flange bolts? Use big impact finish task off. Tandem housing chains, bull work!!!!