I was in my Junior year of High School in an all Boys Catholic school in 1964 when Goldwater was running. I remember going into the bathroom and while doing my business in there I saw a half pint milk bottle filled with what appeared to be a yellow liquid. There was a note attached which read, “You like to think it’s Goldwater but it’s actually just Piss”. Let me tell you the Priests and school administrators were all going crazy over that incident. I don’t believe they ever did catch the culprit because if they had he would be singling soprano.
@@HarrisonHollers NO I didn’t piss in any Milk bottle. I could have written a book about my 4 years in that all Boys Catholic High School. Those were 4 of the best years of my life. But the Priests and Brothers didn’t put up with any crap. It was nothing for a Priest to take a book and beat the hell out of a guy’s head if he was acting up in class.
@@michaelrief4424 jeez! Did they suspect you for reporting it or you just happen to witness the bottle there? Crazy story! Write the book! It could be an actual good version of ‘Dead Poet’s Society?’
This strikes me as the same over-dramatic, highly emotional yet super-practiced style as the recent Katie Brit "rebuttal" to the State of the Union address. Pretty hard to take seriously when the spokesperson is laying it on THAT EFFIN THICK.
@@argylemanni280, is that what politics is to you, paybacks? It's all very apparent by the "own the libs" despite crushing your own democracy that's being practiced by the right.
All this proves is that politics is no different, really, than it was 50 years ago. I bet you that 50 years from now, in 2067, people will be saying, "(Insert Name of Hated Politician Here) is a lot like Donald Trump in 2017! Scary, huh?!" And I'll say, "that's politics."
The things said about Goldwater in this spot pretty well apply to Trump. All the lies and scary positions he has engaged in mean nothing to people like you. Pointing that out is not "hate". ...It's simply "truth".
@@popmonika The following spring to mind: Helsinki summit, Trump, cravenly said he believed Putin over 17 US intelligence agencies, about Russian interference in US elections. Trump suggesting injecting Lysol is a cure for Covid 19. Trump ditching the US Kurdish allies to Turkish forces in northern Syria after a telephone call with President Erdogan. Trump's expressed love for Kim Jong Un. Trump saying that there were "fine people on both sides" at Charlottesville. Trump's corrupt telephone call with the President of Ukraine. Trump screaming at the US top military commanders that they are useless. Trump saying the news media is "fake news". Trump withdrawing a large number of troops from Germany because he was upset.
I don't find this particularly applicable or inapplicable to Trump. Came here to say that if being against war was important to him, I'd suggest he made the wrong choice by voting for LBJ in 64
Eerily similar to current events, although Goldwater's views were more Libertarian and far closer to Ron Paul's than Trump's - and they basically did the same thing to Paul, too. Republicrats will always do whatever it takes to maintain their two-party ruling class.
Except that Ron Paul is backed by Russian Oligarc money. Look up Jesse Benton and Kent Sorenson to find court records and convictions for Russian money laundering.
@@terrybaker9757 It's disappointing to read your comment. I know you can do better than an ad-hominem attack. Your smarter than that yes? What is it that he said that you disagree with specifically? I thought he made one valid point after another and there's a significant overlap in approach/tone between Goldwater and Trump.. This said, Trump is entirely out for himself and likely loathes the very supporters he depends on. Goldwater, however, was an ideologue. Best to you. Patrick
@danger stranger The Parties never flipped that is aleft-wing talking point. Perhaps you have no idea why democrats are even named democrats and republicans named republicans. Party platforms can change depending on the political season but the ideologies remain the same. The only thing that changed was Democrats deciding to finally end their own Jim Crow and racist policies when it was political suicide not to do so as the US has changed after the holocaust in WWII and white southern bigotry was losing ground. Ivy league democrats kept their racism covert while SOME of what was left of the overt racist hillbillies joined the republican party because MLK, The Black Panthers, SNCC and others were pushing socialists agendas. So yes the right has a few racist, less than 10k nationwide, hardly enough to swing local elections much less a state or national one. But there are many KKK in the democrat party to this day.
It’s funny how much this doesn’t apply to Trump, especially the anti-war part. But it definitely is relevant to the reaction of neoconservatives to Trump, and also shows that the same propaganda vibe of ‘reasonable republicans being appalled at the direction of their party’ is still being used
The ironic part is that Goldwater was one of the best Republicans to be nominated to the presidency. If he would've won we wouldn't have had such a bloody Vietnam War, we wouldn't have had the deck stacked against minorities from the poorly named "War on poverty". We'd all be better off today if Gokdwater won.
I feel if senator Goldwater had pushed for the social issues of the time to be added to the constitution such as universal health care, everyone has the right to vote, no person shall be deprived of food, shelter, clothes, or a job. Gay Marriage would be a constitution right. None of this would be an issue and we would not have as many social programs. If the constitution was updated to reflect modern times none of this stuff would be happening today.
He would've escalated the war, I don't think that's how you make a war less bloody. And I'm pretty sure that the War on Poverty led to less poverty among black Americans. Ending it would leave them to the wolves.
@@tristenm1526 54% of all abortions are conducted by black women. The amount of poverty and education in black communities have been historically very bad, and democrat policies have been created to destroy the foundations of a stable society. The family unit. And since 1964, have put the black community into a spiral that is now spreading to other races, as leftist agendas are pushed to further destroy the family unit. All races, to include blacks would have been far better off with someone like Goldwater in office. He was practically begging civil rights leaders to talk with him about what needed to be done, to help blacks at the time. It sounds like he was very sincere about it. The guy was the figure head pf military desegregation.
@@jaylaan421yahoocom Well, according to this chart the poverty rate of black Americans went careening down from 1959 to 1969, roughly when Kennedy and Johnson (who did the war on poverty) were in charge. Then it plateaus by the Nixon era and increases in the early Reagan era. www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/stories/2020/09/poverty-rates-for-blacks-and-hispanics-reached-historic-lows-in-2019-figure-1.jpg
Ol William Bogert (passed away Jan 2020) on Barry Goldwater in 1964, but reprised his ad in 2016 talking about Trump! Here it is: ruclips.net/video/oeYKFRV34kY/видео.html Bogert also appeared on Rachel Maddow a couple years ago! ruclips.net/video/LenXJHccBSw/видео.html Bogert also says the N-word in a sketch on Chappelle's Show! ruclips.net/video/BLNDqxrUUwQ/видео.html
@@michaelrief4424 no Mike, George F Will is very much alive. This is William Bogert, who is not. Although, you may be surprised to learn that ol Billy Bogert reprised his ad in 2016 talking about Trump! Here it is: ruclips.net/video/oeYKFRV34kY/видео.html And Bogert also says the N-word in a sketch on Chappelle's Show! ruclips.net/video/BLNDqxrUUwQ/видео.html
Quite frankly, if I was around in '64 an ad like a this would have convinced me to vote for Goldwater. This man carries on like a nervous simpleton saying he doesn't like Goldwater but never giving any specific reasons why.
Think that’s a young George Will ? What really gets me is to show his anxiety he pulls out a cig and fires it up with his trusty lighter and takes a quick deep draw on it .
I feel if senator Goldwater had pushed for the social issues of the time to be added to the constitution such as universal health care, everyone has the right to vote, no person shall be deprived of food, shelter, clothes, or a job. Gay Marriage would be a constitution right. None of this would be an issue and we would not have as many social programs. If the constitution was updated to reflect modern times none of this stuff would be happening today. I would love to see someone like Rand Paul or Bernie Sanders push for the constitution to be updated. My dream ticket would have been Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders.
Goldwater would never support universal healthcare or the right to food, shelter, clothes, and a job; all of those things would require government action, and he was a an economic libertarian which means he HATES when the government does anything. Same thing with Ron Paul, by the way, which is the total opposite of Bernie Sanders. They wouldn't really be compatible, except for some foreign policy stuff.
@@tristenm1526 Sadly I think you’re right you know if it would’ve been in the constitution or at least added as an amendment to the constitution I think him hesitantly would’ve supported it.
It's funny how history remembers things. Goldwater was a founder of the Arizona NAACP, before 1964. LBJ on the other-hand was very pro-segregation until he entered higher office. Goldwater's opposition to the Civil Rights Act was more based on strict interpretation of constitutionalism rather than racism, as we see today. He firmly repudiated support of the KKK. Goldwater was very respected of his time, by both Democrats and Republicans. He was very much a right-wing intellectual who tried to apply conservative thinking and principles to new issues, rather than a politician like LBJ. A combination of his conservative purism and the lies that LBJ spread lost him the election. If anything, Donald Trump is like LBJ, spreading false information and playing up fear.
Let's not pick sides. I appreciated the analysis, but it's much more likely that both of them were shit, because this is American politics. I appreciate the analysis. The next step is to also research and come to a disparaging opinion on Goldwater. P.S: I consider intent, but most people don't, and actions speak louder than words. I don't care why he opposed the Civil Rights Act, the fact is that he did. I don't doubt that he had better intentions behind why he opposed the CRA then LBJ had for supporting it (by all accounts, he was a virulent racist), but the choice LBJ made had a positive effect. This is what matters more: the effect of a cause. Also, did Goldwater suggest an alternative to the CRA?
Andrew Where were you told that Goldwater founded the Arizona NAACP? I suspect you got it from right-wing media. I also suspect it is untrue. The comparison made between Goldwater and Trump is valid. Trump, who was once a Democrat, takes positions not based on any deep-seated set of values or beliefs, but rather, what is politically expedient. Goldwater's positions on some issues were extreme in order to capture the votes of hard-core Conservatives. His opposition to the CRA and VRA, as well as his hawkish position regarding the war.
@@Greyareas27 The CRA was passed *_only_* because of GOP votes, not a single Democrat voted for it. As for President Trump, what "politically expedient" positions are you referring to. Virtually all media and social platforms crucify him daily, your pseudo intellectual analysis is amusing.
@@PETERJOHN101 My God. Were you actually given this terribly erroneous information on a website? That not a single Democrat voted for the Civil Rights Amendment? Our country is in deep trouble when such ridiculous falsehoods are passed on as fact.
I believe they should have changed and improved the CRA. by allowing member states the right to ban abortion and porn. This is just my opinion, I,m sure a lot of good people will agree with me.
This sounds like it would be a great ad for Kamala to run. I know this ad, which I’m just seeing today for the first time, would certainly make me think
Controlled opposition> I also detect neural linguistic programming. Obama was really good at it. He could mesmerize a crowd and they did not even know it.
Tsnore Goldwater had a much more positive record on civil rights than LBJ did. In his first 20 years as a Senator, LBJ voted against every civil rights bill that came up for a vote; once calling federal legislation a farce and a shame. During Eisenhower’s Civil Rights Act of 1957, LBJ watered down the voting rights section. LBJ also told VP Nixon that he had the votes to kill the entire bill unless they dropped Part 3-which gave the Attorney General authority to file suits to protect broad constitutional rights, including school desegregation; and part 4-which provided for civil suits. At the time, offenses were provided with all white juries of the South. Republicans wanted to open these cases to civil suits, without a jury, that could result in a court order and, if resisted, a contempt citation. But under pressure, Eisenhower reluctantly capitulated, and Johnson succeeded in passing an Amendment to the bill requiring juries in such trials. Years later, “President” LBJ had an epiphany on civil rights because he knew the South was changing. During the 1964 Civil Rights Act, LBJ leaned on Republican support to secure the votes and defeat the Dixiecrat filibuster. It was passed with 80% of Republicans in the House and 82% in the Senate voting yes, but only 61% of the House and 69% of Senate Democrats did. Goldwater voted against the Civil Rights Act of 64’ because he had a problem with title II and VII of the 1964 bill. He was skeptical of federal overreach. He felt that “power” laid in the various states, and with the people. He was a strong advocate of the 10th Amendment. This caused Goldwater to attract Klan supporters. But Goldwater firmly repudiated the Ku Klux Klan and said he did not want the support of organizations bearing that name. Goldwater famously said “extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.” Goldwater’s constitutional stance did not mean he agreed with the segregation and racial discrimination practiced in the South. To the contrary, he fought against these divides in his home state of Arizona. Goldwater supported the integration of the Arizona National guard and Phoenix public schools. Goldwater was, also, a member of the Arizona NAACP, and the Urban League. He helped make Tuskegee airman Chappie James a four-star general while he was in the Senate, funded the NAACP school-integration lawsuit, and raised money to keep the Urban League solvent when it was on the verge of dissolution. Goldwater also supported the Civil Rights Act of 1957, another civil rights bill in 1960, and the 1965 Voting Rights Act. Barry Goldwater was not the most important opponent of racial segregation in Arizona, nor was he the most important champion of desegregating the public schools. What he was was on the right side: He put his money, his political clout, his business connections, and his reputation at the service of a cause that was right and just. While he was doing all that, his eventual nemesis, Lyndon B. Johnson, a low-rent practitioner of the most crass sort of racist politics, was gutting anti-lynching laws and assuring Democrats that he would offer those “uppity Negroes” “just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference.”
The fact of the matter is that Goldwater openly opposed both the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts. And his position was supported by none other than Ronald Reagan, who had switched parties in 1962. So there's your answer.
@@Greyareas27 He only opposed it because he believed that private business should stay private in business employment. A very much libertarian view of business. He believed that two articles (Articles II and IV) of the 1964 act would cause a racial quota in business, which in fact has happened today. He voted for the 1957 act and 24th amendment.
@@jamesperryii9994 So you believe certain groups should have liberty and other groups should not? Apparently you would have been in favor of keeping racial discrimination legal. Says all we need to know about you.
Anon BonBon he actually died this past January. He was featured in an 2016 Hillary ad talking about Trump in the same black and white format, alluding to this version. His name was William Bogert.
I want something new as I’m sick of military men, lawyers and people who speak well and look good. Was Trump as terrible as the media tells us? All I know is our leaders along with our media has painted him as a monster yet before he became president he was considered a well spoken philanthropist and very few negative words were spoken of him. I don’t care to listen to him and his inability to be humble is irritating. But thanks to Biden & Harris I’ll vote for him or DeSantis without hesitation.
He nails why people believe what they believe, his entire family has voted republican. That's the reason most people vote the way they do. They don't want to have to think, they mindlessly vote for the person of their party. He voted for Nixon? I'd be ashamed to admit that. He's hypocrisy is blinding me. He clearly has is a fool.
@Egg Egg egg egg i havent met anyone in person that considered the capitol riot good. if youre comparing the 2, capitol riot to inner city riots, the capitol riot seems a but better. both are bad
Sounds like the current Democratic Party now I used to believe in a blue state under the Johnson politics and some under Bill Clinton but, I see now the party isn’t the same as it was 50 years ago.
@@arthurthompson8241 Goldwater planned to reverse both the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act. He had opposed both as an Arizona Senator. It was common knowledge then.
He was. Not only that, but the person he's talking about, was this man: ruclips.net/video/TFQHf16VcWo/видео.html A man that had disgusting and unrepublican beliefs. Compare to the likes of real republicans, such as Abe Lincoln and Ronald Reagan.
He actually did an interview some years where het explains he'd only do the ad using his real name (which he did) if he believed in the message (which he did)
Watching in 2020 the weekend before the election. We've had the "luxury" of four years to reflect on #DerangedDonald. This ad is STILL relevant. Is that a good thing?
He was against the Civil Rights Amendment and Voting Rights Amendment. How long do you suppose black Americans would have had to wait for equal rights under the law if Goldwater had won? ...I don't want to "get him".
Johnson was one of America's biggest mistakes. Goldwater is much like Trump, the GOP are afraid he will fix things and so are the Democrats. We made a HUGE mistake by not supporting Goldwater and look at the price we paid. We won't make that same stupid mistake again. Vote for Trump because your life depends on it.
Yes, we do need to clean up our acts, but as a female person of color (and a proud American, born and raised), I'm inclined to believe that my life depends on avoiding Trump and his followers at all costs.
Anybody who wishes Goldwater had won clearly doesn't care that he was opposed to the Civil Rights Amendment and Voting Rights Amendment. Black Americans might have gone decades more waiting for equal rights under the law.
@@Greyareas27 Yet he voted for the '57 Republican Civil Rights Act. I don't know what was in the '64 bill. The '64 bill wouldn't have passed without Republican votes. Southern Democrats or Dixiecrats filibustered the bill.
@@samsung-ok4ki Now either you're making up your own reasons or you're repeating the words of someone else. Goldwater's main problem always had more to do with a perceived overreach into states' rights to determine those issues locally. It's inaccurate and dishonest to suggest his opposition was in any way based on concern for the wellbeing of black American citizens.
There is a divide in politics between those who believe thaT people should be controled and those who do not - something like that from some Great sci fi author. Service guarantees citizenship. -also. Show you care or be protected by those who do. -my interpretation of a good way forward based on this.
That election is one of the reference points for my life. I didn't see beyond thinking maybe Goldwater would get us out of Viet Nam. I sure didn't trust Johnson about it. I was 12 years old at the time. Just an fyi the election of 1964 was the same as this year. Hope Blue wins this time around also. I have learned many lessons since then. Thank you. Register to Vote VOTE, VOTE early as possible. VOTE BLUE. VOTE VOTE VOTE. VOTE BLUE
Trump is no politician at all, and he is on the side of the people, against the 'establishment' left, or 'blue' as you put it. I am surprised you would attribute this current campaign to Goldwater and Johnson and then say you would still vote Democrat and progressive now. In my eyes, a child in the early 80s, Ive seen so much deception and lies from the blue side, my entire life, and it has gotten even worse over the decades. The media, owned mostly by the 'left' pander for the blue team to a point where they are no longer reporters or journos, buth rather, clever propagandists, family of elected democrats, ex democrat officials, and ex CIA. Combine that with flashy digital graphics, background audio, perfect ten women anchors, and a complete one sided view of reality that is intended mostly to cause divides in the people that watch and listen to it all. Then on top of that, dish out more lies and investigations approaching an election to put a show on to an already divided population who now shed their nationality, as it is now racist to love this country, to trade it for some racial or sexual identity. These riots today, caused by these militant citizen racial groups, or gangs, are all products of this left establishment. This is why we don't see Dems calling out the violence. The only one leader on the right side chose to be red, despite of his past, because he knew the Dems, or blue, was hijacked in 2016. Things have changed, and much like their real roots, the Dems, the original party of the KKK and Jim Crowe, are just showing their true colors.
@@phoenixmistertwo8815 good to hear from you. Just curious, as stated, my age was 12 when Goldwater ran how old were you? See a lot of us couldn't see any dog which looked ours in that civil war no one else, including US had in that fight.
@@rpierwit, I was a child IN the 80s as I stated. What I was curious about is to why, one older than I, would vite for blue considering all they've been responsible for over the past decade and more. I was immersed in lefty, or marxist propaganda throughout all my public and university education. I saw things at my university, as I was part time, change so drastically it made all the students confused...except for the ones a few grade levels below me, and the ones below that are even more prepared for a world of diversity and social justice for all. We are ran through the schools equipped with extreme 'progressive' changes to our curricula, and now we see it going from CORE to this 1619 project, written by a NY Times propagandist who had it win a BS Pullitzer. Of course soon after, we saw Illinoise demanding they aboilish history and pay reps for the past white washed deceptions. I cant even make this stuff up anymore.
I was in my Junior year of High School in an all Boys Catholic school in 1964 when Goldwater was running.
I remember going into the bathroom and while doing my business in there I saw a half pint milk bottle filled with what appeared to be a yellow liquid.
There was a note attached which read, “You like to think it’s Goldwater but it’s actually just Piss”.
Let me tell you the Priests and school administrators were all going crazy over that incident.
I don’t believe they ever did catch the culprit because if they had he would be singling soprano.
Why you lying old man 😂😂😂
So you pissed in a milk glass? That’s the story?
@@HarrisonHollers
NO I didn’t piss in any Milk bottle. I could have written a book about my 4 years in that all Boys Catholic High School. Those were 4 of the best years of my life.
But the Priests and Brothers didn’t put up with any crap. It was nothing for a Priest to take a book and beat the hell out of a guy’s head if he was acting up in class.
@@centura61st28
That was a True story and I wasn’t lying.
@@michaelrief4424 jeez! Did they suspect you for reporting it or you just happen to witness the bottle there? Crazy story! Write the book! It could be an actual good version of ‘Dead Poet’s Society?’
This strikes me as the same over-dramatic, highly emotional yet super-practiced style as the recent Katie Brit "rebuttal" to the State of the Union address. Pretty hard to take seriously when the spokesperson is laying it on THAT EFFIN THICK.
And, here we are again.
If you don't like Trump, you're gonna hate what comes when you try to "pay us back".
@@argylemanni280, is that what politics is to you, paybacks? It's all very apparent by the "own the libs" despite crushing your own democracy that's being practiced by the right.
We were so afraid Goldwater would get us into a war that we voted LBJ. Go figure
LBJ was a complete moron.
#Trump2020
At least LBJ passed the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act. As a black American, I thank God Goldwater lost. He planned to reverse both.
@@Greyareas27 and yet more Republicans voted for the civil rights act and voting act than democrats.
@@elijahsabo3846 Another false statement. More Democrats voted for it. Get your facts straight. Also, more Democrats voted against it.
@@elijahsabo3846 None of which changes what I said about Goldwater. That was just a failed attempt to change the subject.
All this proves is that politics is no different, really, than it was 50 years ago. I bet you that 50 years from now, in 2067, people will be saying, "(Insert Name of Hated Politician Here) is a lot like Donald Trump in 2017! Scary, huh?!" And I'll say, "that's politics."
I don't hate Trump. I'm going to TRUMP2020.
The things said about Goldwater in this spot pretty well apply to Trump. All the lies and scary positions he has engaged in mean nothing to people like you. Pointing that out is not "hate".
...It's simply "truth".
Give an example of scary things Trump has said without giving edited clips or media hearsay...
I bet you can't.
@bink bee Thank you!
@@popmonika The following spring to mind: Helsinki summit, Trump, cravenly said he believed Putin over 17 US intelligence agencies, about Russian interference in US elections.
Trump suggesting injecting Lysol is a cure for Covid 19.
Trump ditching the US Kurdish allies to Turkish forces in northern Syria after a telephone call with President Erdogan.
Trump's expressed love for Kim Jong Un.
Trump saying that there were "fine people on both sides" at Charlottesville.
Trump's corrupt telephone call with the President of Ukraine.
Trump screaming at the US top military commanders that they are useless.
Trump saying the news media is "fake news".
Trump withdrawing a large number of troops from Germany because he was upset.
I’m scared. Not of Trump. But of this enemies.
I don't find this particularly applicable or inapplicable to Trump.
Came here to say that if being against war was important to him, I'd suggest he made the wrong choice by voting for LBJ in 64
They also attacked trump for being a war monger but he was the first president in decades not to start any new wars
Goldwater was objectively a million times more hawkish than Johnson was.
Eerily similar to current events, although Goldwater's views were more Libertarian and far closer to Ron Paul's than Trump's - and they basically did the same thing to Paul, too.
Republicrats will always do whatever it takes to maintain their two-party ruling class.
The amazing thing is by the time Goldwater retired in 1987, he was considered one of the more moderate Republicans.
Two party or 1.5 party? Tweedle dee and tweedle dum.
Except that Ron Paul is backed by Russian Oligarc money. Look up Jesse Benton and Kent Sorenson to find court records and convictions for Russian money laundering.
Republicans? You act like democrats aren’t part of it too.
For your entertainment , slow the add down to .5.
LISTEN and COUNT the number of times he uses the words I, my, mine, me and WE in 4 minutes!
Reminds me of Kamala talking about herself the whole time.
This is possibly the most stupid comparison of all time
People had much longer attention spans back then. This would never play today. But it does sound like he’s talking about Trump.
He sounds like an idiot to me.
@@terrybaker9757 It's disappointing to read your comment. I know you can do better than an ad-hominem attack. Your smarter than that yes? What is it that he said that you disagree with specifically? I thought he made one valid point after another and there's a significant overlap in approach/tone between Goldwater and Trump.. This said, Trump is entirely out for himself and likely loathes the very supporters he depends on. Goldwater, however, was an ideologue.
Best to you.
Patrick
@@sifu64 Those crazy dems. Next they’ll want to nuke hurricanes.
@@JerryMungo at least LBJ and Westmoreland managed to go on and get 60k Americans killed in Vietnam. Phew
@@sifu64 no one will disagree with that. Vietnam was a totally useless war.
just casually sparks a cig
I'd love to know the name of this man.
I found him! William Bogert ruclips.net/video/LenXJHccBSw/видео.html
I thought he was George F. Will. Comments please.
He played the Frontline journalist in Dave Chappelle's famous "Clayton Bigsby" sketch.
@Egg Egg egg egg ???
George F Will
I’m here because of the Lincoln Project. This would be good Biden commercial
I agree, especially the part about the KKK seeing how Biden loves to eulogize and fawn over former Klansmen.
@danger stranger Pretty sure they were Democrats when they were.
@danger stranger The Parties never flipped that is aleft-wing talking point. Perhaps you have no idea why democrats are even named democrats and republicans named republicans. Party platforms can change depending on the political season but the ideologies remain the same. The only thing that changed was Democrats deciding to finally end their own Jim Crow and racist policies when it was political suicide not to do so as the US has changed after the holocaust in WWII and white southern bigotry was losing ground. Ivy league democrats kept their racism covert while SOME of what was left of the overt racist hillbillies joined the republican party because MLK, The Black Panthers, SNCC and others were pushing socialists agendas. So yes the right has a few racist, less than 10k nationwide, hardly enough to swing local elections much less a state or national one. But there are many KKK in the democrat party to this day.
You got your wish SeaShoreLineOne!
ruclips.net/video/owTRk8FctVw/видео.html
Joe Biden is a farce just like the Lincoln Project.
It sounds like an outtake from Reefer Madness...
Goldwater was the one that told Nixonhe had to resign. I could be wrong.
No, you’re correct
And he was right!!
This man is William Bogert. He did a similar ad for Hillary in 2016.
Kelly O'Donnell They knowed it :0
It’s funny how much this doesn’t apply to Trump, especially the anti-war part. But it definitely is relevant to the reaction of neoconservatives to Trump, and also shows that the same propaganda vibe of ‘reasonable republicans being appalled at the direction of their party’ is still being used
I'm here from a quora post because I was wondering why Americans sounded so different in the 1900s ...
The ironic part is that Goldwater was one of the best Republicans to be nominated to the presidency. If he would've won we wouldn't have had such a bloody Vietnam War, we wouldn't have had the deck stacked against minorities from the poorly named "War on poverty". We'd all be better off today if Gokdwater won.
I feel if senator Goldwater had pushed for the social issues of the time to be added to the constitution such as universal health care, everyone has the right to vote, no person shall be deprived of food, shelter, clothes, or a job. Gay Marriage would be a constitution right. None of this would be an issue and we would not have as many social programs. If the constitution was updated to reflect modern times none of this stuff would be happening today.
He would've escalated the war, I don't think that's how you make a war less bloody. And I'm pretty sure that the War on Poverty led to less poverty among black Americans. Ending it would leave them to the wolves.
@@tristenm1526
54% of all abortions are conducted by black women. The amount of poverty and education in black communities have been historically very bad, and democrat policies have been created to destroy the foundations of a stable society. The family unit. And since 1964, have put the black community into a spiral that is now spreading to other races, as leftist agendas are pushed to further destroy the family unit.
All races, to include blacks would have been far better off with someone like Goldwater in office. He was practically begging civil rights leaders to talk with him about what needed to be done, to help blacks at the time. It sounds like he was very sincere about it. The guy was the figure head pf military desegregation.
@@tristenm1526 the war on poverty did the opposite of what you just said. No idea where you are getting your data from.
@@jaylaan421yahoocom Well, according to this chart the poverty rate of black Americans went careening down from 1959 to 1969, roughly when Kennedy and Johnson (who did the war on poverty) were in charge. Then it plateaus by the Nixon era and increases in the early Reagan era.
www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/stories/2020/09/poverty-rates-for-blacks-and-hispanics-reached-historic-lows-in-2019-figure-1.jpg
who was that guy?
Ol William Bogert (passed away Jan 2020) on Barry Goldwater in 1964, but reprised his ad in 2016 talking about Trump! Here it is:
ruclips.net/video/oeYKFRV34kY/видео.html
Bogert also appeared on Rachel Maddow a couple years ago!
ruclips.net/video/LenXJHccBSw/видео.html
Bogert also says the N-word in a sketch on Chappelle's Show!
ruclips.net/video/BLNDqxrUUwQ/видео.html
@@mikejohnson3338 thanks.
I believe it was George F. Will.....comments welcomed.
@@michaelrief4424 no Mike, George F Will is very much alive. This is William Bogert, who is not.
Although, you may be surprised to learn that ol Billy Bogert reprised his ad in 2016 talking about Trump! Here it is:
ruclips.net/video/oeYKFRV34kY/видео.html
And Bogert also says the N-word in a sketch on Chappelle's Show!
ruclips.net/video/BLNDqxrUUwQ/видео.html
Mike Johnson
Thanks Mike for the additional links to interviews. I appreciate your help. Take Care of Yourself.
This guy reminds me of myself. I’m a republican. I don’t like Trump.
tell me more about your feelings
nina e ???
why
You don't like him but who's going to sell your country to China?
stayed at a holiday inn express last night. worst acting ever
Men were so adult-looking, chiseled and masculine back in the 60’s with their suits…
*Make America Great Again*
The best way to do that is to never again elect a man like Donald J. Trump.
@Egg Egg egg egg Thanks for pointing out the typo. Agree or disagree?
@@Greyareas27 yeah, because Biden has been way better, not like they caused Inflation or anything, or trying to start WW3
Quite frankly, if I was around in '64 an ad like a this would have convinced me to vote for Goldwater. This man carries on like a nervous simpleton saying he doesn't like Goldwater but never giving any specific reasons why.
being on the same side of the street as the klan (1964) or the proud boys or nazis (today) ain’t a good enough reason to cross the street?
huh. ok.
Goldwater is far greater than trump could ever think about being
Greater at what?
Think that’s a young George Will ? What really gets me is to show his anxiety he pulls out a cig and fires it up with his trusty lighter and takes a quick deep draw on it .
Trump would have stopped the Vietnam war .Yes he would.
Like he doctor shopped for "bone spurs".
He didn't stopped the war in Afghanistan but we would stop the war in Vietnam?
stop fighting?
I don't always vote. But when l do l vote NO. Stay opposite, my friends.
I feel if senator Goldwater had pushed for the social issues of the time to be added to the constitution such as universal health care, everyone has the right to vote, no person shall be deprived of food, shelter, clothes, or a job. Gay Marriage would be a constitution right. None of this would be an issue and we would not have as many social programs. If the constitution was updated to reflect modern times none of this stuff would be happening today. I would love to see someone like Rand Paul or Bernie Sanders push for the constitution to be updated. My dream ticket would have been Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders.
Goldwater would never support universal healthcare or the right to food, shelter, clothes, and a job; all of those things would require government action, and he was a an economic libertarian which means he HATES when the government does anything. Same thing with Ron Paul, by the way, which is the total opposite of Bernie Sanders. They wouldn't really be compatible, except for some foreign policy stuff.
@@tristenm1526 Sadly I think you’re right you know if it would’ve been in the constitution or at least added as an amendment to the constitution I think him hesitantly would’ve supported it.
Who else lit a smoke after he did?
We had enough sense not to vote for someone like that in 64. Wish it were true today.
In your guts, you know he's nuts.
It's funny how history remembers things. Goldwater was a founder of the Arizona NAACP, before 1964. LBJ on the other-hand was very pro-segregation until he entered higher office. Goldwater's opposition to the Civil Rights Act was more based on strict interpretation of constitutionalism rather than racism, as we see today. He firmly repudiated support of the KKK.
Goldwater was very respected of his time, by both Democrats and Republicans. He was very much a right-wing intellectual who tried to apply conservative thinking and principles to new issues, rather than a politician like LBJ. A combination of his conservative purism and the lies that LBJ spread lost him the election. If anything, Donald Trump is like LBJ, spreading false information and playing up fear.
Let's not pick sides. I appreciated the analysis, but it's much more likely that both of them were shit, because this is American politics. I appreciate the analysis. The next step is to also research and come to a disparaging opinion on Goldwater.
P.S: I consider intent, but most people don't, and actions speak louder than words. I don't care why he opposed the Civil Rights Act, the fact is that he did. I don't doubt that he had better intentions behind why he opposed the CRA then LBJ had for supporting it (by all accounts, he was a virulent racist), but the choice LBJ made had a positive effect. This is what matters more: the effect of a cause. Also, did Goldwater suggest an alternative to the CRA?
He didn't found the Arizona NAACP
Andrew Where were you told that Goldwater founded the Arizona NAACP? I suspect you got it from right-wing media. I also suspect it is untrue. The comparison made between Goldwater and Trump is valid. Trump, who was once a Democrat, takes positions not based on any deep-seated set of values or beliefs, but rather, what is politically expedient. Goldwater's positions on some issues were extreme in order to capture the votes of hard-core Conservatives. His opposition to the CRA and VRA, as well as his hawkish position regarding the war.
@@Greyareas27
The CRA was passed *_only_* because of GOP votes, not a single Democrat voted for it. As for President Trump, what "politically expedient" positions are you referring to. Virtually all media and social platforms crucify him daily, your pseudo intellectual analysis is amusing.
@@PETERJOHN101
My God. Were you actually given this terribly erroneous information on a website? That not a single Democrat voted for the Civil Rights Amendment?
Our country is in deep trouble when such ridiculous falsehoods are passed on as fact.
That wasn't made in 64. It's new.
I believe they should have changed and improved the CRA. by allowing member states the right to ban abortion and porn. This is just my opinion, I,m sure a lot of good people will agree with me.
This sounds like it would be a great ad for Kamala to run. I know this ad, which I’m just seeing today for the first time, would certainly make me think
What would he think today?
William Bogert revisited this ad in 2016.
Even more relevant in 2024! Save democracy vote blue💙💙💙💙
This why they want to break up the traditional family.
Yep, sounds like a typical Dems Ad. Don't vote for Goldwater because he is Goldwater. That's what they about Trump.
Who is that speaking?
William Bogert. His Wikipedia page is worth a look.
How much did he get paid for this?
Controlled opposition> I also detect neural linguistic programming. Obama was really good at it. He could mesmerize a crowd and they did not even know it.
Actually this sounds more relative to Biden.
We knew what LBJ was.
Wow some people are still falling for this slick ad from 56 years ago
@@xshxr you guess wrong , but I am sure that's par for the course, obviously you are unaware.
The smug elitist establishment drone lives on.
friendly reminder that lbj spied on goldwater's campaign
Wow. Even more so now!
And how 'bout now?
Rino
Would Goldwater have escalated relentlessly like LBJ in Vietnam? Would he have spent as much as LBJ? Would he have done anything on civil rights?
Yes. No. No.
Tsnore Goldwater had a much more positive record on civil rights than LBJ did. In his first 20 years as a Senator, LBJ voted against every civil rights bill that came up for a vote; once calling federal legislation a farce and a shame. During Eisenhower’s Civil Rights Act of 1957, LBJ watered down the voting rights section. LBJ also told VP Nixon that he had the votes to kill the entire bill unless they dropped Part 3-which gave the Attorney General authority to file suits to protect broad constitutional rights, including school desegregation; and part 4-which provided for civil suits. At the time, offenses were provided with all white juries of the South. Republicans wanted to open these cases to civil suits, without a jury, that could result in a court order and, if resisted, a contempt citation. But under pressure, Eisenhower reluctantly capitulated, and Johnson succeeded in passing an Amendment to the bill requiring juries in such trials.
Years later, “President” LBJ had an epiphany on civil rights because he knew the South was changing. During the 1964 Civil Rights Act, LBJ leaned on Republican support to secure the votes and defeat the Dixiecrat filibuster. It was passed with 80% of Republicans in the House and 82% in the Senate voting yes, but only 61% of the House and 69% of Senate Democrats did.
Goldwater voted against the Civil Rights Act of 64’ because he had a problem with title II and VII of the 1964 bill. He was skeptical of federal overreach. He felt that “power” laid in the various states, and with the people. He was a strong advocate of the 10th Amendment. This caused Goldwater to attract Klan supporters. But Goldwater firmly repudiated the Ku Klux Klan and said he did not want the support of organizations bearing that name. Goldwater famously said “extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.”
Goldwater’s constitutional stance did not mean he agreed with the segregation and racial discrimination practiced in the South. To the contrary, he fought against these divides in his home state of Arizona. Goldwater supported the integration of the Arizona National guard and Phoenix public schools. Goldwater was, also, a member of the Arizona NAACP, and the Urban League. He helped make Tuskegee airman Chappie James a four-star general while he was in the Senate, funded the NAACP school-integration lawsuit, and raised money to keep the Urban League solvent when it was on the verge of dissolution. Goldwater also supported the Civil Rights Act of 1957, another civil rights bill in 1960, and the 1965 Voting Rights Act.
Barry Goldwater was not the most important opponent of racial segregation in Arizona, nor was he the most important champion of desegregating the public schools. What he was was on the right side: He put his money, his political clout, his business connections, and his reputation at the service of a cause that was right and just. While he was doing all that, his eventual nemesis, Lyndon B. Johnson, a low-rent practitioner of the most crass sort of racist politics, was gutting anti-lynching laws and assuring Democrats that he would offer those “uppity Negroes” “just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference.”
The fact of the matter is that Goldwater openly opposed both the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts. And his position was supported by none other than Ronald Reagan, who had switched parties in 1962. So there's your answer.
@@Greyareas27 He only opposed it because he believed that private business should stay private in business employment. A very much libertarian view of business. He believed that two articles (Articles II and IV) of the 1964 act would cause a racial quota in business, which in fact has happened today. He voted for the 1957 act and 24th amendment.
@@jamesperryii9994 So you believe certain groups should have liberty and other groups should not? Apparently you would have been in favor of keeping racial discrimination legal. Says all we need to know about you.
2024 will be a repeat of 1964 and then some.
It seems that the current administration is more pro-nuclear war Trump should run a daisy ad it'll be funny in his voice
Vote for Kamala Harris,& Tim Walz on November 5th.Because the stakes are too high for you to stay home.
Holy 🤬.
Is this guy still alive?
Anon BonBon he actually died this past January. He was featured in an 2016 Hillary ad talking about Trump in the same black and white format, alluding to this version. His name was William Bogert.
@@natekidren thank you
And 58,000 dead in NAM. Thanks Johnson.
BTW THE ad is way tooo long.
played the dad in the movie Wargames
I want something new as I’m sick of military men, lawyers and people who speak well and look good. Was Trump as terrible as the media tells us? All I know is our leaders along with our media has painted him as a monster yet before he became president he was considered a well spoken philanthropist and very few negative words were spoken of him. I don’t care to listen to him and his inability to be humble is irritating. But thanks to Biden & Harris I’ll vote for him or DeSantis without hesitation.
Goldwater was actually decent compared to Trump.
😂🤣😂 this made 7 years ago and sounds exactly like Biden... Sucks being wrong, especially when you drew your own attention...
We should all be aftaid to die, says the man as he takes a deep drag on his cig.
He nails why people believe what they believe, his entire family has voted republican. That's the reason most people vote the way they do. They don't want to have to think, they mindlessly vote for the person of their party. He voted for Nixon? I'd be ashamed to admit that. He's hypocrisy is blinding me. He clearly has is a fool.
You do realize that Watergate hadn't occurred yet, right?
The Clinton campaign did a modern-day version of this ad.
B Pray with smoking I hope
This’s why every person who is *TRULY* American should avoid Trump.
Or else... Do you consider yourself an American?
The Famous rleon!!! Still sure
@Egg Egg egg egg i havent met anyone in person that considered the capitol riot good. if youre comparing the 2, capitol riot to inner city riots, the capitol riot seems a but better. both are bad
" Those between 35 and 49 are the product of the New Deal era, riding a dead intellectual horse."
-Ayn Rand-1964
In your guts you know he's nuts. It was true then and it's true now.
Vote Blue 💙
Biden Harris 2024
Straight ticket!
Sounds like the current Democratic Party now I used to believe in a blue state under the Johnson politics and some under Bill Clinton but, I see now the party isn’t the same as it was 50 years ago.
OBTW history proves YOU should have voted for Goldwater
Then, black Americans would have had to go many more years without equal rights under the law.
@@Greyareas27 I dont think that is true but I DO know a lot of Americans died in Vietnam and a whole lot of them were Black, good people died
@@arthurthompson8241 Goldwater planned to reverse both the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act. He had opposed both as an Arizona Senator. It was common knowledge then.
This guy was NEVER a Republican...lolol
He was. Not only that, but the person he's talking about, was this man: ruclips.net/video/TFQHf16VcWo/видео.html A man that had disgusting and unrepublican beliefs. Compare to the likes of real republicans, such as Abe Lincoln and Ronald Reagan.
Well, according to today's standards...he's much to educated.
A Stutteringprick
Looking back at this with Biden in office is more accurate!
Red Pilled didn’t happen.... I am not scared R u
A ham sandwich could beat Hillary Clinton
It depends; what kind of mustard?
@@emorywebb5065 It's called the caliber of your candidate. It's to early to call the next one yet BUT in time it will become clearer who will win.
@@emorywebb5065 More like Mystery Meat.
Ridiculous nothing resembles Trump
Lol who put this out the democrats
LBJ. Losing to North Vietnam.
Yeah, how did that work out?
Nothing could be worse than Trump, right? /s
Nixon lost to North Vietnam, you idiot.
@@MyGhettoLife2k, let's just call it a team effort.
The reaching is laughable.
He sounds like an establishment Republican like the Bushes.
This guy is an actor. I have seen in many tv shows. This a fake add
He actually did an interview some years where het explains he'd only do the ad using his real name (which he did) if he believed in the message (which he did)
No, it's a real ad. What the hell is wrong with people?
Watching in 2020 the weekend before the election.
We've had the "luxury" of four years to reflect on #DerangedDonald.
This ad is STILL relevant.
Is that a good thing?
It was a coup . Trump won
Goldwater was over your head, that’s why you don’t get him.
He was against the Civil Rights Amendment and Voting Rights Amendment. How long do you suppose black Americans would have had to wait for equal rights under the law if Goldwater had won?
...I don't want to "get him".
Johnson was one of America's biggest mistakes. Goldwater is much like Trump, the GOP are afraid he will fix things and so are the Democrats. We made a HUGE mistake by not supporting Goldwater and look at the price we paid. We won't make that same stupid mistake again. Vote for Trump because your life depends on it.
Yes, we do need to clean up our acts, but as a female person of color (and a proud American, born and raised), I'm inclined to believe that my life depends on avoiding Trump and his followers at all costs.
Anybody who wishes Goldwater had won clearly doesn't care that he was opposed to the Civil Rights Amendment and Voting Rights Amendment. Black Americans might have gone decades more waiting for equal rights under the law.
@@Greyareas27 Yet he voted for the '57 Republican Civil Rights Act. I don't know what was in the '64 bill. The '64 bill wouldn't have passed without Republican votes. Southern Democrats or Dixiecrats filibustered the bill.
@@Greyareas27 he said all those were shortchanging blacks, he was right, they still feel shortchanged in 2121
@@samsung-ok4ki Now either you're making up your own reasons or you're repeating the words of someone else. Goldwater's main problem always had more to do with a perceived overreach into states' rights to determine those issues locally.
It's inaccurate and dishonest to suggest his opposition was in any way based on concern for the wellbeing of black American citizens.
Sounds like 2020 Democratic Convention !
Is that you Mittens?
There is a divide in politics between those who believe thaT people should be controled and those who do not
- something like that from some Great sci fi author.
Service guarantees citizenship. -also.
Show you care or be protected by those who do. -my interpretation of a good way forward based on this.
MAGA!
That election is one of the reference points for my life. I didn't see beyond thinking maybe Goldwater would get us out of Viet Nam. I sure didn't trust Johnson about it. I was 12 years old at the time. Just an fyi the election of 1964 was the same as this year. Hope Blue wins this time around also.
I have learned many lessons since then.
Thank you.
Register to Vote
VOTE, VOTE early as possible.
VOTE BLUE. VOTE VOTE VOTE. VOTE BLUE
Trump is no politician at all, and he is on the side of the people, against the 'establishment' left, or 'blue' as you put it.
I am surprised you would attribute this current campaign to Goldwater and Johnson and then say you would still vote Democrat and progressive now. In my eyes, a child in the early 80s, Ive seen so much deception and lies from the blue side, my entire life, and it has gotten even worse over the decades.
The media, owned mostly by the 'left' pander for the blue team to a point where they are no longer reporters or journos, buth rather, clever propagandists, family of elected democrats, ex democrat officials, and ex CIA. Combine that with flashy digital graphics, background audio, perfect ten women anchors, and a complete one sided view of reality that is intended mostly to cause divides in the people that watch and listen to it all. Then on top of that, dish out more lies and investigations approaching an election to put a show on to an already divided population who now shed their nationality, as it is now racist to love this country, to trade it for some racial or sexual identity. These riots today, caused by these militant citizen racial groups, or gangs, are all products of this left establishment. This is why we don't see Dems calling out the violence.
The only one leader on the right side chose to be red, despite of his past, because he knew the Dems, or blue, was hijacked in 2016. Things have changed, and much like their real roots, the Dems, the original party of the KKK and Jim Crowe, are just showing their true colors.
@@phoenixmistertwo8815 good to hear from you. Just curious, as stated, my age was 12 when Goldwater ran how old were you?
See a lot of us couldn't see any dog which looked ours in that civil war no one else, including US had in that fight.
@@rpierwit, I was a child IN the 80s as I stated.
What I was curious about is to why, one older than I, would vite for blue considering all they've been responsible for over the past decade and more. I was immersed in lefty, or marxist propaganda throughout all my public and university education. I saw things at my university, as I was part time, change so drastically it made all the students confused...except for the ones a few grade levels below me, and the ones below that are even more prepared for a world of diversity and social justice for all.
We are ran through the schools equipped with extreme 'progressive' changes to our curricula, and now we see it going from CORE to this 1619 project, written by a NY Times propagandist who had it win a BS Pullitzer. Of course soon after, we saw Illinoise demanding they aboilish history and pay reps for the past white washed deceptions. I cant even make this stuff up anymore.
Sounds like your talking about Joe Biden
? It sounds exactly like Trump, from Republican Party, to the KKK, to a candidate who doesn’t represent your beliefs.
it, was add for democratic party and was presented as so. I was still a fake add.
I didn’t realize that Goldwater was a nutcase too.
He wasn’t. He should have won in 1964 and this country would have been better off.
On the issue of civil rights and war, he was very much insane. But by his later years he represented the more moderate wing of the Republicans