The inherent problem with the Sunny 16 rule is that a sunny day in London is about 2 stops less bright than a sunny day in San Diego. Most videos ignore that fact, just trying to push out some repetitive and useless content. She does try to deal with the problem of adapting the "rule" to local conditions and applications, but the fact remains that the more you make those adjustments, the less "rule" you have left to use. The great part is that doing this adaption teaches the relationship between subject lighting and film exposure. Of course, that doesn't work if you do not have that reference, be it light meter or in-camera meter. But if you have a meter, why do you need to use the Rule? The answer is that you really do not need the rule, but learning it a valuable education, and it's handy to fall back on when your battery dies. Thumbs up.
@@BelindaJiao IDK really. do some videos on diffierent cameras try em out show us what you think about the camera , would you recommend the camera etc. it know its costly, but you can sell them. i shoot film and do that all the time buy cameras shoot a roll or two figure out if i want to keep the camera or just sell it again.im rocking the yashica A BTW
That definitely took an explanation of Sunny 16 to the next level. Love the way you talked us through "reading" the scene and deciding what you want to get out of the shot (e.g retaining the grass texture in the shadows). I'm literally about to step out the door and spend a few hours in the picturesque town of Lymington, on England's south coast, with my little Canonet and a roll of Ektar. Will be putting the scene-reading into practice!
A really useful and informative video. My take is that the sunny 16 rule is a starting point and you use your intuition to adjust. You gave great guidance in how to develop that intuition. Well done!
Excellent video Belinda explained very well with some great shots, there’s some lovely sharpness and contrast from the lens on your TLR , thanks for posting
@@BelindaJiao thanks Belinda glad I came up with that suggestion. One other possibility would be a future video on mobile phone metering apps, the Lumu is one of the most popular which is free i believe which has a kind of spot meter function. lu.mu/shop/
Really like your videos, Belinda! Always learning new things from you. I feel like my experience with photography has been a lot of trial and error all these years, but you've helped me achieve a deeper understanding of how it really works and why :)
Excellent explanation! I found it so helpful when you explained how and why you made your exposure decision for each shot. Thank you for doing that! I just subscribed.
Thanks Belinda ! I bought my first film camera last week. It’s a TLR and I really needed this kind of information. That photo of the guy sleeping in the grass is my favorite. Cheers from Chile .
hey, good decision for picking a TLR out of all the cameras out there in the film world, these are so much bang for your buck :D Thank you, I was so scared that he'd all of a sudden turn around and see me lol
Nicely done, both the presentation and results. Admittedly, it's been a while since i've shot purely Sunny 16, but you've convinced me to practice once in a while. Especially when experimenting, documenting your settings for each shot, especially if lighting it not consistent, will make it easier to learn and trouble shoot.
@@BelindaJiao I have a Bronica SQ kit, 6x6 medium format SLR, and a modified large format lens on a 6x12 medium format body that gets 6 frames per roll and goes through rolls quickly especially if I bracket.
Love your videos. Watched recently so many of them. I think I'm kind of addicted 😅 Very interesting and definitely learn a lot. Thanks for that And greetings from Switzerland
I have a Seagull 4bi tlr and I use the sunny 16 rule. Excellent results even when I accidentally take 2 shots on one frame because I forget to wind on. I use an Actina 36mm push on lens shade. Lovely thoughtful photos. Thank you for the video.
Neil, that's amazing, I've always had the impression that double exposures are not as straightforward as on other models. Is it a built-in feature? that sounds pretty cool :)
Barry, omg, its mind-blowing how you are always spot-on :D sorry this wasn't a surprise but rather a stupid mistake HAHA was handling too many things at once, THANK YOU for pointing that out :D :D
Just shot my first roll of film with my Minolta Autocord yesterday. And of course used the good old sunny 16 rule. The negative looks fantastic. Great Minds think alike it seems. :)
Watching you with the TLR and explaining the intricacies is so dang interesting!! My favorite shot, which was hard to pick as usual, was the kids with the balloon👍🏻. Wonderful video Belinda and throughly enjoyed your explanations😀!!!
Barry, these cameras are certainly very intriguing and they belong in their own world. That shot definitely turned out much better than I thought, given that the kids were moving so quickly! Thank you, glad you enjoyed!
Barry, cut it this short because I'm so sick of the lockdown hair (i think we all are haha) and thank you! Looking forward to sharing things that you guys can take away from :)
great video Belinda and nice hair :) I have a TLR since a while and never used it. You make me now want to get some rolls of film for it and take it out :)
Armin, lucky you! If you were to sell (please don't), people would have to pay you collector prices haha. Try it out, it's a very different experience :)
That was really interesting. I recently noticed the Ultramax 400 box has a Sunny 16 guide on one of the flaps, and this has 1/250 at f16 for sun! I guess films can take extra light.
I wonder if you have to use f11 not just because of the camera, but also because you're in London, where it feels like the rule should be more like Sunny 11.
I really like your photos and enjoyed your description of your process. I do have a question. Why is there a bag on your iMac? Do you use it with that bag on it? Does it cover the vents? Also, the screen gets quite warm and radiates a lot of heat that might get trapped by a bag. If you use your iMac with the plastic on it, you might be thermal throttling it, which means longer wait times in Lightroom, etc.
Isaac, thank you. This is it - I've removed it seeing this comment its made me scared haha. I was just lazy and didn't do anything about the wrapping paper when I bought it - lame I know haha
599 / 5000 F / 16 Shadow Full sun - sharp shadow: f / 16 Veiled sun - diffuse shadow: -1 stop => f / 11 Against the light or in the shade (free shadow): -3 stops => f / 5.6 Sun above the horizon, before diving: about -4 stops or about f / 4 No shade Hidden sun, white sky, visible sun disk with sunglasses: -2 stops => f / 8 Overcast sky, light gray, invisible sun disk: -3 stops => f / 5.6 Overcast, leaden gray, it can rain: -4 stops => f / 4 Rain: from -4 to -5 stops or f / 4 to f / 2.8 Interior From -9 to -10 stops Dim lights: between -12 and -15 stops
Hi Belinda, nice video! Do you mind sharing how you hold the camera when doing POV? I've tried doing POV with my Yashica-D, but kept getting the camera in front of my GoPro.
Ibrahim, this video isn't exactly an accurate representation because my cam broke midway haha. So most of the footages were from my iphone 🤣🤣 (fyi slipped the phone into my pants) but otherwise, i usually have a backpack with me and I have an accessory that fastens the cam onto a shoulder strap. Though TLR povs are kinda hit and miss so dw it's perfectly normal, not that people would care great deal tbh
Gary, thank you! I think it is relative to the budget you have in mind. This model, I would say, is a relatively basic model. It has all you need to take great shots, though if you are looking to do more fancy things like double exposure, there are other models out there that gives you a more comprehensive set of capabilities but of course comes with a higher price tag x
@@BelindaJiao I've got a rolleicord but it's a really old one from the 30s and it's broke a couple of times so I don't want to keep spending money on repairs. I don't want to spend a lot of money. I'm thinking about getting another rolleicord a later model because I love the simplicity. I don't want anything too complicated I want a camera that's well built easy to use and not likely to break easily. Quality of the photos is secondary.
I guess I am just a bit old fashioned as these days I don’t even think about the exposure in my photography I just set and know I am correct. That said it’s all the years I have shot film long before digital was even out. I am still one who believes that photo schools teach film photography long before they teach digital. Working with film one gets the basics down that will make their digital photography much better.
Michael, totally, the more hands on the process, the more solid your foundations. I think every photographer should aspire towards making exposure calculations second nature! :)
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The inherent problem with the Sunny 16 rule is that a sunny day in London is about 2 stops less bright than a sunny day in San Diego. Most videos ignore that fact, just trying to push out some repetitive and useless content. She does try to deal with the problem of adapting the "rule" to local conditions and applications, but the fact remains that the more you make those adjustments, the less "rule" you have left to use. The great part is that doing this adaption teaches the relationship between subject lighting and film exposure. Of course, that doesn't work if you do not have that reference, be it light meter or in-camera meter. But if you have a meter, why do you need to use the Rule? The answer is that you really do not need the rule, but learning it a valuable education, and it's handy to fall back on when your battery dies. Thumbs up.
Yes. Sunny 11 for London if you're going to follow a rule like this.
this woman deserve a roleiflex. so underated youtube channel. cant stop bench watching this
Jonas, thank you! :D do you shoot film? What types of stuff do you want to watch about?
@@BelindaJiao IDK really. do some videos on diffierent cameras try em out show us what you think about the camera , would you recommend the camera etc. it know its costly, but you can sell them. i shoot film and do that all the time buy cameras shoot a roll or two figure out if i want to keep the camera or just sell it again.im rocking the yashica A BTW
Idk how but after countless tutorials and even a college course your explanation of the sunny 16 rule has helped me find so much clarity! Thank you!
Niko, I didn't know there are courses specifically for the Sunny 16! Cheers, perhaps I should go take some now lol
That definitely took an explanation of Sunny 16 to the next level. Love the way you talked us through "reading" the scene and deciding what you want to get out of the shot (e.g retaining the grass texture in the shadows). I'm literally about to step out the door and spend a few hours in the picturesque town of Lymington, on England's south coast, with my little Canonet and a roll of Ektar. Will be putting the scene-reading into practice!
remember Ektar looooves light,ok. No underexposing, Over exp. ok
A really useful and informative video. My take is that the sunny 16 rule is a starting point and you use your intuition to adjust. You gave great guidance in how to develop that intuition. Well done!
Excellent video Belinda explained very well with some great shots, there’s some lovely sharpness and contrast from the lens on your TLR , thanks for posting
Dieter, thanks again for throwing out interesting questions, fits right into the video :) the level of sharpness is indeed impressive
@@BelindaJiao thanks Belinda glad I came up with that suggestion. One other possibility would be a future video on mobile phone metering apps, the Lumu is one of the most popular which is free i believe which has a kind of spot meter function.
lu.mu/shop/
So glad this TLR works well 😍
Mom, yes this one works magic!
Great work! Makes me want to take out my own Seagull again after 20 years.
Great images! I just bought a Seagull off ebay, even though I have a Rolleiflex I am excited to try it.
Looking forward to it again ☺️
cheers mom!
Really like your videos, Belinda! Always learning new things from you. I feel like my experience with photography has been a lot of trial and error all these years, but you've helped me achieve a deeper understanding of how it really works and why :)
hey so glad to hear! my pleasure really, if anything you'd want me to share just shout!
Excellent explanation! I found it so helpful when you explained how and why you made your exposure decision for each shot. Thank you for doing that! I just subscribed.
Robin, hey welcome here! Indeed it is hard to explain intuition and experience but there you go :)
Thanks Belinda ! I bought my first film camera last week. It’s a TLR and I really needed this kind of information. That photo of the guy sleeping in the grass is my favorite. Cheers from Chile .
hey, good decision for picking a TLR out of all the cameras out there in the film world, these are so much bang for your buck :D Thank you, I was so scared that he'd all of a sudden turn around and see me lol
Cool video !
Nicely done, both the presentation and results. Admittedly, it's been a while since i've shot purely Sunny 16, but you've convinced me to practice once in a while. Especially when experimenting, documenting your settings for each shot, especially if lighting it not consistent, will make it easier to learn and trouble shoot.
Patrick, thank you :) tbh, I am still also in my comfort zone - only trying it out when it's sunny. Do you own a TLR as well?
@@BelindaJiao Actually haven't even tried a TLR. I've kinda just stuck with SLRs. Does look like it would be a fun experience.
really? what did you intend to shoot the 120 rolls on then? haha
@@BelindaJiao I have a Bronica SQ kit, 6x6 medium format SLR, and a modified large format lens on a 6x12 medium format body that gets 6 frames per roll and goes through rolls quickly especially if I bracket.
I appreciate this video! You answered a question I had about this theory clearly :)
Love your videos. Watched recently so many of them. I think I'm kind of addicted 😅
Very interesting and definitely learn a lot.
Thanks for that
And greetings from Switzerland
Dominik, welcome to the Channel! Thank you, amazing that your enjoying, hope Switzerland is doing good? :)
@@BelindaJiao yeah is fine here. lockdown is over
I have a Seagull 4bi tlr and I use the sunny 16 rule. Excellent results even when I accidentally take 2 shots on one frame because I forget to wind on. I use an Actina 36mm push on lens shade.
Lovely thoughtful photos. Thank you for the video.
Neil, that's amazing, I've always had the impression that double exposures are not as straightforward as on other models. Is it a built-in feature? that sounds pretty cool :)
Sounds very interesting and exciting Belinda!!😀. Keeping us on our toes, a Fri premier versus Sat🙃. Had to check the calendar to make sure.
Barry, omg, its mind-blowing how you are always spot-on :D sorry this wasn't a surprise but rather a stupid mistake HAHA was handling too many things at once, THANK YOU for pointing that out :D :D
@@BelindaJiao hey, we all have to take care of each other and help where needed. Just glad I could help😀! Not stupid at all Belinda.
things are all of a sudden happening again here - hows it for you?
@@BelindaJiao definitely changing for the better! Glad to see it finally!! Hope you are doing well and able to relax a little😀
Just shot my first roll of film with my Minolta Autocord yesterday. And of course used the good old sunny 16 rule. The negative looks fantastic. Great Minds think alike it seems. :)
Terry, that's amazing, you know you're always a little scared with the Sunny 16, but when it does turn out well, it makes you so happy!
@@BelindaJiao luckily film has such a wide latitude we just need to be close enough sometimes. :)
@@BelindaJiao Your images were so good. Check out my IG terry_breedlove for yesterday’s images :). Let me know what you think. I value your input
Watching you with the TLR and explaining the intricacies is so dang interesting!! My favorite shot, which was hard to pick as usual, was the kids with the balloon👍🏻. Wonderful video Belinda and throughly enjoyed your explanations😀!!!
Barry, these cameras are certainly very intriguing and they belong in their own world. That shot definitely turned out much better than I thought, given that the kids were moving so quickly! Thank you, glad you enjoyed!
@@BelindaJiao and may I just add that your new hairstyle looks very nice! Looking forward to next week and potentially 1K Subscribers!!
Barry, cut it this short because I'm so sick of the lockdown hair (i think we all are haha) and thank you! Looking forward to sharing things that you guys can take away from :)
Great video and explanations!
Tyler, thank you! Glad you enjoyed :)
Amazing video,, glad I came across it. Very informative and engaging :)
Sean, thank you, do you shoot on a TLR yourself?
@@BelindaJiao not right now, but I'd like to. I mainly shoot on 35mm and digital :)
great video Belinda and nice hair :) I have a TLR since a while and never used it. You make me now want to get some rolls of film for it and take it out :)
Armin, lucky you! If you were to sell (please don't), people would have to pay you collector prices haha. Try it out, it's a very different experience :)
@@BelindaJiao was a gift from a good friend, so I will never sell it. Sits on my shelve besides my old Fuji X70 and looks at me every day :)
Armin, there's a good chance that it still works despite having collected some dust lol
That was really interesting. I recently noticed the Ultramax 400 box has a Sunny 16 guide on one of the flaps, and this has 1/250 at f16 for sun! I guess films can take extra light.
Very informative. Thanks.
Very very good video.
hey Richard thank you!
Belinda... rolleiflex... is Exellent
Learned a lot.
Well done.
Well explained.
Congrats.
Love it.
Amazing.
I wonder if you have to use f11 not just because of the camera, but also because you're in London, where it feels like the rule should be more like Sunny 11.
I really like your photos and enjoyed your description of your process. I do have a question. Why is there a bag on your iMac? Do you use it with that bag on it? Does it cover the vents? Also, the screen gets quite warm and radiates a lot of heat that might get trapped by a bag. If you use your iMac with the plastic on it, you might be thermal throttling it, which means longer wait times in Lightroom, etc.
Isaac, thank you. This is it - I've removed it seeing this comment its made me scared haha. I was just lazy and didn't do anything about the wrapping paper when I bought it - lame I know haha
Inspiring.
599 / 5000
F / 16
Shadow
Full sun - sharp shadow: f / 16
Veiled sun - diffuse shadow: -1 stop => f / 11
Against the light or in the shade (free shadow): -3 stops => f / 5.6
Sun above the horizon, before diving: about -4 stops or about f / 4
No shade
Hidden sun, white sky, visible sun disk with sunglasses: -2 stops => f / 8
Overcast sky, light gray, invisible sun disk: -3 stops => f / 5.6
Overcast, leaden gray, it can rain: -4 stops => f / 4
Rain: from -4 to -5 stops or f / 4 to f / 2.8
Interior
From -9 to -10 stops
Dim lights: between -12 and -15 stops
Guillaume, thank you for sharing, I am sure this would be of great help to fellow analogue shooters :)
I'm always confused whether when you or anyone opens up or shuts down the shutter speeds are you also changing the shutter speed? Thank you.
I love this video , how do you meter when using a manual flash ?
hey Pauline, thank you! tbh I haven't quite done flashes manually myself - I ll share when I have more insights :) cheers!
@@BelindaJiao also have you ever thought about attaching filters to your tlr , like nd filters ?
Paulie, haven't quite have the need to tbh, as too much light is seldom the issue with the TLR lol
Hi Belinda, nice video! Do you mind sharing how you hold the camera when doing POV?
I've tried doing POV with my Yashica-D, but kept getting the camera in front of my GoPro.
Ibrahim, this video isn't exactly an accurate representation because my cam broke midway haha. So most of the footages were from my iphone 🤣🤣 (fyi slipped the phone into my pants) but otherwise, i usually have a backpack with me and I have an accessory that fastens the cam onto a shoulder strap. Though TLR povs are kinda hit and miss so dw it's perfectly normal, not that people would care great deal tbh
@@BelindaJiao oh right! I know what accessory you mean. Why didn’t I think of that? Thank you Belinda! I appreciate you 😁
Bless this video. I even have the same camera haha!
John, thank you! woah this camera is such a rare find, im sure your enjoying it a lot? :)
In the UK sunny 16 refers to the 16 days of actual sunny weather
or, the 16 seconds between the sun showing up and disappearing again ;)
In the UK the rule is Sunny 11 😢
Great stuff. I'm thinking about getting the seagull camera the same as yours is it a good choice?
Gary, thank you! I think it is relative to the budget you have in mind. This model, I would say, is a relatively basic model. It has all you need to take great shots, though if you are looking to do more fancy things like double exposure, there are other models out there that gives you a more comprehensive set of capabilities but of course comes with a higher price tag x
@@BelindaJiao I've got a rolleicord but it's a really old one from the 30s and it's broke a couple of times so I don't want to keep spending money on repairs. I don't want to spend a lot of money. I'm thinking about getting another rolleicord a later model because I love the simplicity. I don't want anything too complicated I want a camera that's well built easy to use and not likely to break easily. Quality of the photos is secondary.
I guess I am just a bit old fashioned as these days I don’t even think about the exposure in my photography I just set and know I am correct. That said it’s all the years I have shot film long before digital was even out. I am still one who believes that photo schools teach film photography long before they teach digital. Working with film one gets the basics down that will make their digital photography much better.
Michael, totally, the more hands on the process, the more solid your foundations. I think every photographer should aspire towards making exposure calculations second nature! :)
Try using terminology like stopping down the lense or opening up. Film and basic photography vocabulary
hello there, tbh not thinking much about the language specifically when vlogging, but yea I ll go with anything that works best for listeners x
I have a sunny rule too, I only go out with my camera when it’s sunny. 😂 ( I know, my jokes are awful).
lol is that the ancestor of the sunny 16? hahaha
@@BelindaJiao it could possibly be when the ISO was something like 5 on the plate cameras.
WHY DO YOU OPEN A 120 ROLL AND LEAVE IT UNDER LIGHT N00B ?
1) that's what's the paper is for 2) did it affect the pictures? no