I'd like to see further developments to flesh out the tech trees... invention of the wheel, the plow and yoke, development of fishing nets or hunting traps, atlatl and hunting bow. I'm also curious if diplomacy/alliances with neighbouring tribes could be improved. Lastly, I'm curious about the religious aspects of the game. Maybe a knowledge tree to train shamans and priests? Medicinal healing to improve sleep, morale, HP?
Making a similar game (Wartribes) except in the jungle, you yourself are one of the villagers and you engage in war with other tribes! This is great inspiration
@@Martinit0 Not much to see quite yet but I will be uploading stuff to my youtube channel when I have something to show :) ruclips.net/channel/UC7m_JdwrapAaMbCB7NrQi5g
Just visited Newgrange today, built by the Neolithics in Ireland around 3200BC. Stone and people from across ireland appear in the archaeological site, showing the social, cultural and architectural complexity of it. Hope to see a gameplay if the Boyne in the game someday
So awesome that they expanded the map. Basically first neolithic mega cities were in the east, if we take a look at Cucuteni-Trypilia culture covering modern Romania and Ukraine. Not to mention some newly researched locations such as Cornești-Iarcuri(although this one is somewhere at the end of neolithic. How awesome if they will make events such as indo-european migration.
The differences in the hut should be dictated by The location that you start out in. The biggest issue I had was locating the reeds for rope to build houses.
I don’t think they should add extra service buildings but rather expand on the homes. Like add “upgrades” to them so you could add a specific storage/crafting/ect. In the home for maybe the cost of a sleeping spot and obv some resources. They could also maybe let you designate a building as a hunting lodge or a farm hut to add storage and maybe boost local agriculture/hunting.
The timing of the game is dead wrong, and that show lack of knowledge on the part of the devs. The 1500s BC in Europe was their Bronze Age, and they were most definitely living in far more advance and organized civilizations and cultures. In the Pontic Steppe, for instance, they were engaging in fast chariot warfare and shooting bow and arrow from horseback. They were living in fortified towns with organized religions, mercantile society and organized warfare.
@WotanSkyFather Blame this on Raptor choosing this start date. Or realize it's the equivalent of a tribe sized group being Exiled into the wilderness and having to start from nothing.
@tompeng8248 google Vinča culture, first writting in the world, first cities, bronze and gold smithing and much older than Egyptian or Sumerian civilisations
i remember hearing a lot of good things about Dawn of Man, but in the end, it sounds like it won't get the goals that it had set out to do. Looking forward to see what this game here offers.
It's quite okay, but in a 'good enough' sort of way. What there is, is balanced out and you can end up hurting yourself with incorrect labour distribution or not paying attention. Like interaction with other people is limited to set-period one trader showing up, and raiders appear on your map. And that's the entire trade and combat mechanic.
It's a good game, there's just no challenge at all and that's coming from someone who is quite bad at RTS and city builders. It has so much promise but I just want more of everything. I'd recommend it on sale if you want a few hours of fun because the core gameplay is good, in my opinion. It's actually on sale right now for 10.49€ which is a quarter of Ancient Cities.
This is all wrong. The devs clearly have no idea about the timeline of European prehistory. In 1555 BC Europeans were most definitely NOT hunting dogs as they were domesticated and being used as hunting partners and companions/pets. They were solidly in the end of the Bronze Age by 1500 BC which began in Europe around 2500-3000 BC, transitioning into the Iron Age. They had had domesticated dogs for 10,000 years, at least as far back as 6,000 BC or as early as 14,000 BC, based on some evidence. The culture and tribal society portrayed here is woefully anachronistic. Even in the end of the Neolithic the Europeans were engaging in copper smelting and forging, creating tools and weapons, even though they did still use stone tools. The devs have a painfully obvious presentism bias, which is making them portray the Ancient Europeans as "primitives" when they were most assuredly not. They also were not hunting horses by this late stage as they had been domesticated for more than 2000 years, and were used as transportation, to speed trade, and as pack animals. They were using fast chariots pulled by horses and engaging in organized warfare from a foundation of highly stratified societies, not living in the dirt.
1557 BC, you started at nearly 1000 years after the great pyramid of keops was built :D, his pyramid was built around 2600 BC...so at this point in time the game should have stone building and rather advanced societies
I hope a game developer picks up dawn of man. That's my favourite game. I wish it had more variation/content. Hunting as a tribe is the best aspect that no other game has.
I'm always looking at location strategically with a view to defence, and right off the bat I think you've made a mistake - that narrow neck of land between two rivers only has a short land boundary that needs to be defended - I'd have set up close to the narrow gap so that my settlers can easily wall it off in early game, providing much increased security to the settlement between the two rivers. There's ample space for a city there, a secure water supply nearly all the way around and less to defend in the future.
@@SilverionX Hard to mount an attack from a dug out log canoe or hide coracle when someone's stabbing you with a spear, throwing rocks at you or tipping your vessel over with a long pole. Rivers have always been a useful defence and daunting indeed to attack over if the opposite bank is defended. This was as true in neolithic times as it was in medieval times and right up to and including the second world war. A study of history will enlighten you.
I was very interested in this game when it was first talked about & followed it but due to how long it's taken to get to this point I have moved to games that are a lot better looking & gameplay like Medievil Dynasty
i would love to se this game with raids and combat like in simular game like down of man.also a bit faster work from developers this has great potential
Yes, that is the question isn't it. I wish Raptor was more critical, perhaps referred to the "mixed" reviews this game has -- or at least address the issue. I'm becoming increasingly skeptical of what a lot of content creators do for the community.
I am really glad to see this game having been updated. I still can't imagine paying $60 for it, but I am more inclined to grab it should it go on sale.
I like the concept but there's no endgame and a point to continue playing after about 2-3 hours . I wish they would learn to develop it furthermore, add some predators, wars, stuff like that
By 1500 BC the Europeans were most definitely engaging in mass warfare, as they were in the Bronze Age by then, which began around 3000 BC. They were using chariots and building small city-states by the 1500s BC.
The game isn't meant to be at this point in history yet. It's very clearly still meant for a Neolithic start. Maybe down the line they'll fix the Mesolithic start to be a bit more accurate.
@WotanSkyFather And maybe as they progress development we'll get there. I think they jumped the gun allowing a "mesolithic" start they clearly don't have proper setup for yet.
@@ShadowStormCZ Manor lords came up its pure shit total lambo EA style probably dev is cracking coconuts with our money while we look at blank screen. i waited for manor lords instead of this one now i will probably buy this in discount. manor lords is total BS and not gonna be a game in near 50 year
its still abit sad that they have completely ignored the middle east and its role in being the first ancient cities and actually represent the age ingame. its still 'early access' to what its goal as a game.
In my case I think the price is fair but it is just too green and the development is really slow, I love city builders but as of right now this is a really boring and shallow game. It just needs a ton of content and new mechanics that add depth, they promised a complex generational system, raids and natural disasters so lets see if the game develops at a reasonable pace
@@gbbarn give up man, I was super excited about this game. Just read their updates patch notes. big update we added a road system. next update we added sheep. there is too much controversy about this game. people back up it on Kickstarter too. not sure if I remember correctly devs were deleting negative reviews.
I want to love this game, but there are many flaws. No hostile enemies attacking your village makes gameplay very limited. The AI is the worst I've seen in a while. They stand around doing nothing and would even stand beside a slaughtered animal and starve to death. The gates for fences do not work and the wells are only decoration. So glad I didn't spend full price, but don't regret $20 bucks. This always was and still is a $20 game at best.
this is a joke... :D I was laying out 4 Games and one of the should be become the project i am going to focus on for my next game. THIS is is EXACTLY what i had in mind for one.
Wouldnt it be cool on top of Farming... you could domesticate wild animals... likes dogs for hunting or cats for pest control or horses for travelling.
meh.... sounds are relevant... they didnt have instruments back them.. only drums... that was what it was all about.. once they learned maths, then music came.. its VERY realistic.
I'd be skeptical about ancient cities. devs are very unprofessional. they banned steam forum back in day due to the criticism of the game 😂 and game was / is overpriced
You always compare this game with Dawn of Man, but i tell you : Dawn of Man is far superior than this game!! (I already played around 2,200 hours on Dawn of Man and I already have fun playing it, specially because it have a lot of Mods). For be honest this game is a fake and a broken Dev promises. Also very expensive ... Dawn of Man have depth, realism, lots of details and replayability that lack in this pseudo-game... but if people want to lose money ... go ahead!! (just see those game reviews, all true)
It is a shit game that was not ready and released trailer back in the days with great teaser. But that is it, well developed dawn of man released and this ancient cities had nothing. Even released, it is with loads of unfinished bugs and games and stuff.
The megaliths were built far further back in history, think 7000 BC to 3500 BC, with some building lingering into the Chalcolithic age up to 2500 BC when the Bronze Age was beginning. The devs clearly have no idea about the historical timeline of European prehistory. The culture portrayed in this playthrough of 1500 BC is laughably anachronistic and prmitive.
I haven't played the game but if I did, I think canoes for faster water travel and moving goods could be cool. It also makes sense for the game.
I agree. Waterways were the highways for centuries!
I'd like to see further developments to flesh out the tech trees... invention of the wheel, the plow and yoke, development of fishing nets or hunting traps, atlatl and hunting bow. I'm also curious if diplomacy/alliances with neighbouring tribes could be improved. Lastly, I'm curious about the religious aspects of the game. Maybe a knowledge tree to train shamans and priests? Medicinal healing to improve sleep, morale, HP?
Making a similar game (Wartribes) except in the jungle, you yourself are one of the villagers and you engage in war with other tribes! This is great inspiration
Do share some link to your work, if you don't mind.
@@Martinit0 Not much to see quite yet but I will be uploading stuff to my youtube channel when I have something to show :) ruclips.net/channel/UC7m_JdwrapAaMbCB7NrQi5g
name of the game please
its crazy how far this game has come ive been playing it almost since the start,
and it has most certainly been improved a lot!
This game looks pretty bunk still
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@@tjn2254 Because it is.
Just visited Newgrange today, built by the Neolithics in Ireland around 3200BC. Stone and people from across ireland appear in the archaeological site, showing the social, cultural and architectural complexity of it. Hope to see a gameplay if the Boyne in the game someday
At the rate that this game is going it might be ready in ten years.
It's not like you can't play it before it is ready.
So awesome that they expanded the map. Basically first neolithic mega cities were in the east, if we take a look at Cucuteni-Trypilia culture covering modern Romania and Ukraine. Not to mention some newly researched locations such as Cornești-Iarcuri(although this one is somewhere at the end of neolithic.
How awesome if they will make events such as indo-european migration.
The differences in the hut should be dictated by The location that you start out in. The biggest issue I had was locating the reeds for rope to build houses.
I don’t think they should add extra service buildings but rather expand on the homes. Like add “upgrades” to them so you could add a specific storage/crafting/ect. In the home for maybe the cost of a sleeping spot and obv some resources. They could also maybe let you designate a building as a hunting lodge or a farm hut to add storage and maybe boost local agriculture/hunting.
Overall great game love the updates it’s crazy how far this games come😊
For context, while this tribe was building huts, in 1555 BC the Egyptian New Kingdom was building some of the greatest monuments in history.
The timing of the game is dead wrong, and that show lack of knowledge on the part of the devs. The 1500s BC in Europe was their Bronze Age, and they were most definitely living in far more advance and organized civilizations and cultures. In the Pontic Steppe, for instance, they were engaging in fast chariot warfare and shooting bow and arrow from horseback. They were living in fortified towns with organized religions, mercantile society and organized warfare.
This game is not set in 1500 BC. Default start date is 7000BC. @@WotanSkyFather
@WotanSkyFather Blame this on Raptor choosing this start date.
Or realize it's the equivalent of a tribe sized group being Exiled into the wilderness and having to start from nothing.
@tompeng8248 google Vinča culture, first writting in the world, first cities, bronze and gold smithing and much older than Egyptian or Sumerian civilisations
i remember hearing a lot of good things about Dawn of Man, but in the end, it sounds like it won't get the goals that it had set out to do. Looking forward to see what this game here offers.
It's quite okay, but in a 'good enough' sort of way. What there is, is balanced out and you can end up hurting yourself with incorrect labour distribution or not paying attention. Like interaction with other people is limited to set-period one trader showing up, and raiders appear on your map. And that's the entire trade and combat mechanic.
It's a good game, there's just no challenge at all and that's coming from someone who is quite bad at RTS and city builders. It has so much promise but I just want more of everything. I'd recommend it on sale if you want a few hours of fun because the core gameplay is good, in my opinion. It's actually on sale right now for 10.49€ which is a quarter of Ancient Cities.
Id love to see a stream of this with the updates
These types of games so often lack a good plot that does not end in primitive resource grinding
This is all wrong. The devs clearly have no idea about the timeline of European prehistory. In 1555 BC Europeans were most definitely NOT hunting dogs as they were domesticated and being used as hunting partners and companions/pets. They were solidly in the end of the Bronze Age by 1500 BC which began in Europe around 2500-3000 BC, transitioning into the Iron Age. They had had domesticated dogs for 10,000 years, at least as far back as 6,000 BC or as early as 14,000 BC, based on some evidence. The culture and tribal society portrayed here is woefully anachronistic.
Even in the end of the Neolithic the Europeans were engaging in copper smelting and forging, creating tools and weapons, even though they did still use stone tools. The devs have a painfully obvious presentism bias, which is making them portray the Ancient Europeans as "primitives" when they were most assuredly not. They also were not hunting horses by this late stage as they had been domesticated for more than 2000 years, and were used as transportation, to speed trade, and as pack animals. They were using fast chariots pulled by horses and engaging in organized warfare from a foundation of highly stratified societies, not living in the dirt.
You do know the Mesolithic era is well before 1555 BC… this game isn’t set in 1555 BC
@@vonp588 Watch the video again, the player chose 1557 BC
Just chill it's just game, and just enjoy the gameplay no need to fight
@@bettyramadhani1399 No
So this is set as you being a new tribe you would probably hunt dogs during your first days striving out into the wild or as long as you like really
Its cool to see that the UK was connected to France back then
I could imagine stuff like stone pit huts looking good in locations like Orkney or the Caucasus
1557 BC, you started at nearly 1000 years after the great pyramid of keops was built :D, his pyramid was built around 2600 BC...so at this point in time the game should have stone building and rather advanced societies
ngl they should do like north American area for the game
Merry Christmas, Raptor.
Merry Christmas Raptor
Same to you!!!!
Is this on mobile?
It looks really nice
I hope a game developer picks up dawn of man. That's my favourite game. I wish it had more variation/content. Hunting as a tribe is the best aspect that no other game has.
So...which one is better, this one or dawn of man? Thats the real question here.
once the game finishes up will you do a series on it
I'm always looking at location strategically with a view to defence, and right off the bat I think you've made a mistake - that narrow neck of land between two rivers only has a short land boundary that needs to be defended - I'd have set up close to the narrow gap so that my settlers can easily wall it off in early game, providing much increased security to the settlement between the two rivers. There's ample space for a city there, a secure water supply nearly all the way around and less to defend in the future.
Until you realize they discovered boats a long time ago (historically). In the future it would be a huge liability :P
@@SilverionX Hard to mount an attack from a dug out log canoe or hide coracle when someone's stabbing you with a spear, throwing rocks at you or tipping your vessel over with a long pole. Rivers have always been a useful defence and daunting indeed to attack over if the opposite bank is defended. This was as true in neolithic times as it was in medieval times and right up to and including the second world war. A study of history will enlighten you.
I love your videos, Merry Christmas Eve 😍💕😍💕
Looks fun, but it is nowhere worth the base price of 40 bucks. 50% off until Jan 4th. But it is at most a 15 dollar game right now.
my man showing off the ural mountains where the carpathians are XD
Hell to it rap have a marry Christmas love you work on RUclips one the best In my eyes
You are beautiful and amazing and the algorithm loves you.
Its currently on sale at 50% off. If I can scratch the money together, I may do so.. Jan 4 end of sale.
Don't support these scammer developers.
A link to the game in your description would be useful
I was very interested in this game when it was first talked about & followed it but due to how long it's taken to get to this point I have moved to games that are a lot better looking & gameplay like Medievil Dynasty
Those aren't the Urals, those are the Southern Carpathians - also known as the Transylvanian Alps
i would love to se this game with raids and combat like in simular game like down of man.also a bit faster work from developers this has great potential
Is it worth playing yet?
Yes, that is the question isn't it. I wish Raptor was more critical, perhaps referred to the "mixed" reviews this game has -- or at least address the issue. I'm becoming increasingly skeptical of what a lot of content creators do for the community.
Better than dawn of man . !!! We have nights
OOoh. Wishlisting this one for sure.
Please can you tell us if this game has (or will have) an age advancing system?
I am really glad to see this game having been updated. I still can't imagine paying $60 for it, but I am more inclined to grab it should it go on sale.
It's 40€, still the most expensive Indie Game I've seen I think.
I grabbed it on a recent sale, think it was the christmas one
There is doggerland, lost atlantis in map.
This game looks almost identical to Dawn of man
It looked as if you needed the basic spear to make the improved fishing one.
Ha the game developers misspelled "aurochs". Both the singular and the plural form have a "s", there is no such thing as an "auroch".
I like the concept but there's no endgame and a point to continue playing after about 2-3 hours .
I wish they would learn to develop it furthermore, add some predators, wars, stuff like that
By 1500 BC the Europeans were most definitely engaging in mass warfare, as they were in the Bronze Age by then, which began around 3000 BC. They were using chariots and building small city-states by the 1500s BC.
The game isn't meant to be at this point in history yet. It's very clearly still meant for a Neolithic start. Maybe down the line they'll fix the Mesolithic start to be a bit more accurate.
@WotanSkyFather And maybe as they progress development we'll get there. I think they jumped the gun allowing a "mesolithic" start they clearly don't have proper setup for yet.
awesome.
Pls give me more❤❤
Fine sticks being a limit is forcing your progression to be slow.
Currently 50% off on steam. Is it worth to buy it ?
No, bought it years ago and I don't see much difference. Wait until its more complete like in ten years.
@@SafariPilot Damn, what a shame, it looks so interensing too. :( Might aswell wait for Manorlords.
@@ShadowStormCZ Manor lords came up its pure shit total lambo EA style probably dev is cracking coconuts with our money while we look at blank screen. i waited for manor lords instead of this one now i will probably buy this in discount. manor lords is total BS and not gonna be a game in near 50 year
You’re beautiful and amazing.
Hello raptor are you interested in a playbale demo of the new RTS game ( red chaos - the strict order ) ?
Would be great if you play it.
its still abit sad that they have completely ignored the middle east and its role in being the first ancient cities and actually represent the age ingame. its still 'early access' to what its goal as a game.
i wanna go from neolithic to 1500s-1600s
Dev's asking too much, that's why i don't buy.
In my case I think the price is fair but it is just too green and the development is really slow, I love city builders but as of right now this is a really boring and shallow game. It just needs a ton of content and new mechanics that add depth, they promised a complex generational system, raids and natural disasters so lets see if the game develops at a reasonable pace
@@gbbarn give up man, I was super excited about this game. Just read their updates patch notes. big update we added a road system. next update we added sheep. there is too much controversy about this game. people back up it on Kickstarter too. not sure if I remember correctly devs were deleting negative reviews.
Just bought it for $20 couple days ago on sale.
Bought it just now with 50% off... Only 19.95...
I want to love this game, but there are many flaws. No hostile enemies attacking your village makes gameplay very limited. The AI is the worst I've seen in a while. They stand around doing nothing and would even stand beside a slaughtered animal and starve to death. The gates for fences do not work and the wells are only decoration. So glad I didn't spend full price, but don't regret $20 bucks. This always was and still is a $20 game at best.
this is a joke... :D
I was laying out 4 Games and one of the should be become the project i am going to focus on for my next game.
THIS is is EXACTLY what i had in mind for one.
Are there any raiders? Have just bought it, hoping so but if not yet maybe one day?
Is this like dawn of man or something like that?
Wouldnt it be cool on top of Farming... you could domesticate wild animals... likes dogs for hunting or cats for pest control or horses for travelling.
I recently started playing Dawn of Man and now I see this... I suppose I'll download it later tonight.
puro daldal...Ganda sana manood
i tried starting in norway where i'm from, but it was all just a snowy wasteland. kinda mad i'm not able to there so stopped playing for a bit
this game make my gpu go brrrrrrr
lol this looks strangely similar to Dawn of Man..?
Not enough ditches.
The pop of the icons anytime they reappear is jarring. I get how it could look good once but every time they pop in is not pleasing to the eyes.
Np domestic dogs 😢
nice concept, really bad devs
Why?
Your beautiful and amazing.
What is the name of the Game ?
Reminds me of Dawn of Man. Which was a flop. I'll keep my eye on this though.
You are beautiful and amazing.
Same game as Dawn Of Man?
Why does it takes an hour to load the games's shaders?
I mean the game is bare bones needs raiders factions and combat or it will die like dawn of man did.
Im trying to do a count on the number of games i have gotten cause i saw them on your channel. But i keep losing count.
you are beautiful and amazing.
still in this game takes 5 hours to build some walls? 😂
you are beautiful and amazing!
this game just farm or war?
Ugh, these devs are a sham. Called them out back in 2018 and they got pissed. They had all these promises and have done jack shit with the game.
Neolithic
No Atlatls
What?
Lol bro you live in MN?
meh.... sounds are relevant... they didnt have instruments back them.. only drums... that was what it was all about.. once they learned maths, then music came.. its VERY realistic.
is this dawn of man?
Ancient Cities
no. Ancient Cities
I'd be skeptical about ancient cities. devs are very unprofessional. they banned steam forum back in day due to the criticism of the game 😂 and game was / is overpriced
@@kurrwabanning mods as well and blaming people for it being unoptimized
Dawn of man is shit
.its a very shity game for the price. There is ton of games that's just better deal.
you are really beautiful and amazing
Dawn of Man clone. Dawn of Man is a good game.
Dawn of man is shit .
@tompeng8248 i like the nights. The day cycles. Dawn of man no have
You always compare this game with Dawn of Man, but i tell you : Dawn of Man is far superior than this game!! (I already played around 2,200 hours on Dawn of Man and I already have fun playing it, specially because it have a lot of Mods). For be honest this game is a fake and a broken Dev promises. Also very expensive ... Dawn of Man have depth, realism, lots of details and replayability that lack in this pseudo-game... but if people want to lose money ... go ahead!! (just see those game reviews, all true)
It is a shit game that was not ready and released trailer back in the days with great teaser. But that is it, well developed dawn of man released and this ancient cities had nothing. Even released, it is with loads of unfinished bugs and games and stuff.
This stonehenge_thing is so silly
The megaliths were built far further back in history, think 7000 BC to 3500 BC, with some building lingering into the Chalcolithic age up to 2500 BC when the Bronze Age was beginning. The devs clearly have no idea about the historical timeline of European prehistory. The culture portrayed in this playthrough of 1500 BC is laughably anachronistic and prmitive.
I whant it on my ps5🥲