i dont wtf youre blabbin about dude, that riff is an arpeggio setting that's it... no music theory was involved i belive :D these guys go at it 100% by ear at all times
I believe that was mostly the point of what Pete's talk was saying - that they probably didn't think in scales necessarily, but you can reverse engineer what they did to look at the music theory... whether they write 'music' deliberately and consciously or instinctively, just using their ears - it is still music that gets written, and this can be expressed with intervals, chords and scales.. oh and also Martijn from Noisia is a classically trained musician, so would imagine he knows the theory of what they are doing as it's being made.
And then what? The only instrument is a play button..a lot of EDM producers enjoy the ego feeding of you wanting to know how they manage to sound so amazing but they are not sounding amazing its just you are forced to fit into that framework of sound..this is reason why I see a bunch of dudes in the comment section screaming "dope" "banging" "I love my sub woofer" "sick bass" and so on.. Let..Djs and bands wanted to use a more rough sound and tense melodies, they never stopped on one simple beat and started layering along with sampling. They incorporated different sounds and noises, genres and styles and the final product was always electric and amazing! You couldn’t call this music simply electronica, because it was a mix of so many things, which I think makes electronica a mix of different products. A lot of the bands that are the best examples of 90s electronic music are not alike at all.. The Prodigy, Underworld, The Chemical Brothers, Boards of Canada, Bjork, Muslimgauze, Fatboy Slim, Massive Attack, which is actually trip-hop, but I included them anyways, because what the trip-hop musicians play today is total bullshit, it’s just a cheap, “underground” remake of todays’ EDM. These musicians created radically different sounds from everything everyone had ever heard. The reason these musicians were so successful and so diverse is simple they knew how to play music. At that time, a computer wasn’t enough for all the sounds you needed, so you had to use actual vocals, actual drums and actual guitar. Even if you didn’t have real drums, they used drum machines, and the sound of the drum machine is totally different from the sample drum sounds in the computer. Some might say that electronica has evolved along with technology and that’s the reason people have given up on real instruments and it’s part of growing up. Come on! Just because you have evolved doesn’t mean that you have to forget about the good things the past has.
+Rahul Kumar wtf dud u make no sense ! Can you please clarify what you mean by And then what? The only instrument is a play button..a lot of EDM producers enjoy the ego feeding of you wanting to know how they manage to sound so amazing but they are not sounding amazing its just you are forced to fit into that framework of sound..this is reason why I see a bunch of dudes in the comment section screaming "dope" "banging" "I love my sub woofer" "sick bass" and so on.. Let..Djs and bands wanted to use a more rough sound and tense melodies, they never stopped on one simple beat and started layering along with sampling. They incorporated different sounds and noises, genres and styles and the final product was always electric and amazing! You couldn’t call this music simply electronica, because it was a mix of so many things, which I think makes electronica a mix of different products. A lot of the bands that are the best examples of 90s electronic music are not alike at all.. The Prodigy, Underworld, The Chemical Brothers, Boards of Canada, Bjork, Muslimgauze, Fatboy Slim, Massive Attack, which is actually trip-hop, but I included them anyways, because what the trip-hop musicians play today is total bullshit, it’s just a cheap, “underground” remake of todays’ EDM. These musicians created radically different sounds from everything everyone had ever heard. The reason these musicians were so successful and so diverse is simple they knew how to play music. At that time, a computer wasn’t enough for all the sounds you needed, so you had to use actual vocals, actual drums and actual guitar. Even if you didn’t have real drums, they used drum machines, and the sound of the drum machine is totally different from the sample drum sounds in the computer. Some might say that electronica has evolved along with technology and that’s the reason people have given up on real instruments and it’s part of growing up. Come on! Just because you have evolved doesn’t mean that you have to forget about the good things the past has ?
Rahul Kumar uhh I'm a huge fan of The Prodigy....as well as Noisia. I really don't get what you're saying. Everything evolves over time. I'm guessing you've never listened to Noisia through good speakers/headphones, their production skills and sound design tops most production I've ever heard, and that includes a background of 70s, 80s, and 90s rock, not to mention I play guitar, drums, and bass and make my own shit. Music is about making an experience. Who cares what any one person thinks sounds "cool" or "dope" or what have you. Sure all of the groups you listed kick ass, but when it comes to overall depth in sound and dynamics, you can't even compare them to Noisia. Samples are getting better over time. I love The Fat of the Land but the sound is outdated from the late 90s just like any other semi-electronic act. Better sounding shit comes out over time. Those groups were big over 2 decades ago.
What do you mean the only instrument is a play button? Have you done any production yourself or seen someone produce? You think the computer generates the music for you? That's basically saying that someone who does 3D animation can "auto generate" the animation just by pressing a "play button". Research the topic you are discussing before you talk about it ok?
@Dri Ven Yeah Billain’s sound design is like kind of unnecessary, I’m almost certain he’s some kind of ethereal being sent from another plane to show mortals how to sound design. It’s not even just the basses either his entire soundscape and overall atmosphere is in a tier of its own.
Very nice.
thanks for recording it in 0.067 kbits mp3
Blessings to you! Great talk!!
pleasure!
pleasure!
One of the reasons we gave this particular talk away free was becuase we had some recording issues for the audio...
cheers babes.
Great upload, thank you for the video! This is a very insightful video
don't you think that the this guys keyboard sounds like EYES WIDE SHUT
I have that same midi controller :D
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Why are the monitors facing him and not the audience? o_O
ha yes looks strange doesn't it... those are his monitors, but there is a bigger set facing the audience as well :)
i dont wtf youre blabbin about dude, that riff is an arpeggio setting that's it... no music theory was involved i belive :D these guys go at it 100% by ear at all times
I believe that was mostly the point of what Pete's talk was saying - that they probably didn't think in scales necessarily, but you can reverse engineer what they did to look at the music theory... whether they write 'music' deliberately and consciously or instinctively, just using their ears - it is still music that gets written, and this can be expressed with intervals, chords and scales.. oh and also Martijn from Noisia is a classically trained musician, so would imagine he knows the theory of what they are doing as it's being made.
pyroghost11 exactly looool
And then what? The only instrument is a play button..a lot of EDM producers enjoy the ego feeding of you wanting to know how they manage to sound so amazing but they are not sounding amazing its just you are forced to fit into that framework of sound..this is reason why I see a bunch of dudes in the comment section screaming "dope" "banging" "I love my sub woofer" "sick bass" and so on.. Let..Djs and bands wanted to use a more rough sound and tense melodies, they never stopped on one simple beat and started layering along with sampling. They incorporated different sounds and noises, genres and styles and the final product was always electric and amazing! You couldn’t call this music simply electronica, because it was a mix of so many things, which I think makes electronica a mix of different products. A lot of the bands that are the best examples of 90s electronic music are not alike at all.. The Prodigy, Underworld, The Chemical Brothers, Boards of Canada, Bjork, Muslimgauze, Fatboy Slim, Massive Attack, which is actually trip-hop, but I included them anyways, because what the trip-hop musicians play today is total bullshit, it’s just a cheap, “underground” remake of todays’ EDM. These musicians created radically different sounds from everything everyone had ever heard. The reason these musicians were so successful and so diverse is simple they knew how to play music. At that time, a computer wasn’t enough for all the sounds you needed, so you had to use actual vocals, actual drums and actual guitar. Even if you didn’t have real drums, they used drum machines, and the sound of the drum machine is totally different from the sample drum sounds in the computer. Some might say that electronica has evolved along with technology and that’s the reason people have given up on real instruments and it’s part of growing up. Come on! Just because you have evolved doesn’t mean that you have to forget about the good things the past has.
+Rahul Kumar wtf dud u make no sense ! Can you please clarify what you mean by And then what? The only instrument is a play button..a lot of EDM producers enjoy the ego feeding of you wanting to know how they manage to sound so amazing but they are not sounding amazing its just you are forced to fit into that framework of sound..this is reason why I see a bunch of dudes in the comment section screaming "dope" "banging" "I love my sub woofer" "sick bass" and so on.. Let..Djs and bands wanted to use a more rough sound and tense melodies, they never stopped on one simple beat and started layering along with sampling. They incorporated different sounds and noises, genres and styles and the final product was always electric and amazing! You couldn’t call this music simply electronica, because it was a mix of so many things, which I think makes electronica a mix of different products. A lot of the bands that are the best examples of 90s electronic music are not alike at all.. The Prodigy, Underworld, The Chemical Brothers, Boards of Canada, Bjork, Muslimgauze, Fatboy Slim, Massive Attack, which is actually trip-hop, but I included them anyways, because what the trip-hop musicians play today is total bullshit, it’s just a cheap, “underground” remake of todays’ EDM. These musicians created radically different sounds from everything everyone had ever heard. The reason these musicians were so successful and so diverse is simple they knew how to play music. At that time, a computer wasn’t enough for all the sounds you needed, so you had to use actual vocals, actual drums and actual guitar. Even if you didn’t have real drums, they used drum machines, and the sound of the drum machine is totally different from the sample drum sounds in the computer. Some might say that electronica has evolved along with technology and that’s the reason people have given up on real instruments and it’s part of growing up. Come on! Just because you have evolved doesn’t mean that you have to forget about the good things the past has ?
Rahul Kumar uhh I'm a huge fan of The Prodigy....as well as Noisia. I really don't get what you're saying. Everything evolves over time. I'm guessing you've never listened to Noisia through good speakers/headphones, their production skills and sound design tops most production I've ever heard, and that includes a background of 70s, 80s, and 90s rock, not to mention I play guitar, drums, and bass and make my own shit. Music is about making an experience. Who cares what any one person thinks sounds "cool" or "dope" or what have you. Sure all of the groups you listed kick ass, but when it comes to overall depth in sound and dynamics, you can't even compare them to Noisia. Samples are getting better over time. I love The Fat of the Land but the sound is outdated from the late 90s just like any other semi-electronic act. Better sounding shit comes out over time. Those groups were big over 2 decades ago.
What do you mean the only instrument is a play button? Have you done any production yourself or seen someone produce? You think the computer generates the music for you? That's basically saying that someone who does 3D animation can "auto generate" the animation just by pressing a "play button". Research the topic you are discussing before you talk about it ok?
@Dri Ven Yeah Billain’s sound design is like kind of unnecessary, I’m almost certain he’s some kind of ethereal being sent from another plane to show mortals how to sound design. It’s not even just the basses either his entire soundscape and overall atmosphere is in a tier of its own.