Ocean's Thirteen | The Plan | ClipZone: High Octane Hits
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
- In the film OCEAN'S THIRTEEN, Danny Ocean gathers his crew for a third heist after casino owner Willy Bank betrays Reuben Tishkoff, one of the original eleven
Directed by Steven Soderbergh
Written by Brian Koppelman, David Levien, George Clayton Johnson
Starring George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Matt Damon
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And did ALL of this for Ruben. 💕
He should known better, he shook Sinatra's hand
The plan included rewarding the guy in the end, love it!
Wish until I rewatched this film a couple of times that I picked up that is what the conversation Saul was having with the brother, about the reward at the end and the fact that the team did set-up up for 11 million and not 10 :)
When is opening night?
July 3rd!!!
Ocean’s Thirteen was so fun! Wish I had been at the casino that night if this had really happened! 😂
I’d deal with bedbugs for 10 million
They straight up said "Don't get too close, he's still-" and then didn't finish.
Whatever the hell they did to him, it went far beyond just bedbugs.
guys i think the opening night is july 3rd
Soft opening and grand opening same shit 😭
Now is this before the soft opening?
when's the opening night? 😂
That little exchange about the waitress/models and the "It's a cruel, cruel practice..."
Goddamn these films are masterclasses in making crooks likeable.
From top to bottom they share equal.
Yessir
The problem with this movie is that Banks don't even have a chance. Benedict and Toulour were menacing, you felt Ocean's crew truly feared them, but they just overpower Banks like he's nothing. There are no stakes in the film, Ocean is just playing on God mode cheat.
I'd argue that keeps it satisfying in a different way.
In Ocean's 11, the film is divided pretty evenly between the setup and the heist itself. The heist begins with 50-ish minutes left in the run time. And, largely, the setup and the heist itself go off pretty well without a hitch; Benedict is menacing, sure, but he's practically dead in the water for Ocean's Eleven. Every single move he makes walks cleanly into one of their countermoves and setups, to the point where if he didn't call in a SWAT team and simply agreed to Rusty's terms and left it at that, or if he sent down a personal security team after letting the money go in the truck, Danny, Yen and Linus are stranded in the vault. The only "real" stakes where things might have gone either way were the personal ones with Tess.
In 12, we find out in the end that there really weren't any stakes with Toulour; they had LeMarc in their corner as soon as Toulour's motives were revealed, and LeMarc fed them the victory. The "real" heist was drawing things out long enough for Isabel's forged documents to come to light and for Rusty to sweep her off her feet as a result.
In 13, sure, Banks is pretty resoundingly overwhelmed by the Ocean's crew, but they keep it interesting by making the goal of the heist completely not about personal gain and instead for personal satisfaction, and by making the actual heist extremely difficult and complicated, because it's not cracking a vault, it's just making a casino lose money "legitimately".
The Ocean's crew ultimately LOST money in this heist; sure, they made some back, especially with Yen acting as a high roller and making that one crazy bet. 10 million divided between 3 numbers, I'm not sure how Roulette works, but I believe Yen can't bet the full 10 million on those three and win full odds if any of the three win, I think he had to divide his bet between the three, losing the bets placed on the two losing numbers(~6.3 million) but more than making up for it with the winning bet(3x35=105 mill, minus 6 for ~100), which is likely the number that was divided amongst the crew(earlier in the movie, when they had to bring Benedict in, they noted they had ~10 million left in their funding. Yen makes a 10 million bet, requiring special permission from Bank RIGHT before the servers are shut down. With no way to reach Bank and re-confirm that further $10 million bets are acceptable, it's reasonable to believe Yen would go back to regular betting just after. That's why so much emphasis was placed on that particular shot where Yen won; because they had to time it PERFECTLY, with Yen making the bet, while Bank is in the server room, then immediately shutting it down so the GRECO wouldn't notice Yen's win was illegitimate, so the crew's take was the 100 mill from that bet plus the ~100 mill from the diamonds[retail value of 250 mill, no way are they selling extremely unique diamonds like that without re-cutting and fencing them separately, so let's say 100 mill after re-cutting], minus however much they pitched in to buy Ruben that stretch of land from the end of the movie, minus the 72~ million they spent to repay Benedict for his investment, so ~125 million before buying a sizeable parcel of Las Vegas real estate, likely enough for Ruben to start building a casino)
Add in that Linus is apparently taking another job immediately, it doesn't seem like the crew made retirement-level money off of the gig. It truly was just about screwing Bank. They made far less money than they did on the Bellagio heist.
Don't get me wrong, Eleven is probably the better movie overall, but Thirteen is still an excellent film.
One of the best films ever! But that doesn't mean I'm not going to point out meaningless shit that nobody cares about!
1- BMI cannot be calculated on the floor of the casino by squeezing her arm. BMI is a calculation. The formula is BMI = kg/m2 where kg is a person's weight in kilograms and m2 is their height in metres squared. So this is nonsense.
2- Bank does not need to invent a "models who serve" title in order to fire someone for their physical appearance. In fact, firing someone based on weight issues (either over, or under) it's easy to do as there are no laws specifically prohibiting it (with the exception of Michigan, and a few cities.). People with weight issues are not a protected class such as race or gender groups, so again, this wouldn't be needed.
3- I know this is a "Saul is really old and doesn't get it" gag, but this is a big flaw in the writing. We are supposed to believe that he is this brilliant Las Vegas con man. Rusty specifically says "He's in coopertown" among the thieves and conmen of the world. You don't get to be that by being an idiot. And if he still active at this age, he clearly is aware of the changes in the industry. And in any case, they explain it very clearly here, so there's no reason for him to go back to his original question.
4. No matter how ambitious Bank may be, There is no way he is sitting there explaining it to a housekeeper. He shows over and over again that he's above petty shit. So even if you was freaking out about the appearance of the room, this would be something he handles with somebody much higher in the chain. Not a low level hourly worker.
5. Rusty promises this woman a job as a general manager? How does he plan to do this? I know he is a hotel owner himself, but never do they make mention of him owning overseas properties. He only ever talks about his property in Vegas. So he is completely lying to her in order to get her on board? I thought their entire enterprise works on having these embedded relationships with people who owe them favors. So making her a promise he can't deliver on his bad for him too.
6. Five diamond awards are awarded by the American automobile association. Maybe this Royal review board was made up for the sake of the film, but in either case you don't simply call and ask for the information on who is reviewing a hotel. The entire point of their operation is that the evaluation of the hotel or restaurant is done in secrecy. The businesses cannot prepare for it, and what they get is an honest degree of service.
7. Man, these guys are pricks! There would have been plenty of ways to sabotage the review without making David Paymer go through all that stuff. It doesn't take much to not earn the highest honor of five diamonds. They just has to be a couple things that are not absolutely perfect. The guest doesn't need to suffer extraordinary pain.
It's a movie.
1. Just because we’re seeing the waitress having her arms squeezed by Sponder doesn’t mean she was calculating her BMI
2. It could be that in the Ocean world, people are protected from being fired due to weight issues.
3. Just because one is a conman doesn’t make on knowledgeable about everything. His questions about the soft opening is legit.
4. It could just be that the maid was seen admiring the display, and he starts to brag about it to her.
5. Rusty never said he offered her a job at HIS hotel. It could just be that Rusty called in some favours with Reuben’s hotel pals.
6.Just because the reviewer is a secret doesn’t mean they can’t get info on who’s coming. Danny et al has been shown to have great contacts all over the con business. You think they couldn’t get the info?
7. They need the reviewer to prepare a scathing report so that Bank’s reputation gets a big hit. Hence the severe treatment they gave him. Simply roughriding him isn’t enough. Plus he gets 10 million in the end, so it’s not like they are leaving him to rot.
This guy-🤓
@@tiadaid You already covered most of this, but I want to add in:
1. Presumably they weigh in the waitresses elsewhere, and she was just pinching her arm to demonstrate it, not to actually measure it.
3. I think this is more Saul being curmudgeonly rather than genuinely not understanding.
4. Bank is ABSOLUTELY that petty and micromanaging, and they say so at 0:28. He probably wouldn't go out of his way to chew out a specific housekeeper, but if she was there when he was storming through to check the rooms? He would definitely give her a hard time over it.
@@tiadaid I want to add to your sixth point. We know for a fact that they have an FBI agent as a fellow conman (Linus' father). It would be very easy to find out who's set to review the hotel through him.