It seems that Bulgarian Cyrillic is the most legible and simple version of the alphabet, compared to Russian, Ukrainian, Moldovan, Serbian and Macedonian. The irregular pronunciations in Russian are a little frustrating to foreign learners. I imagine there's something similar in Macedonian, given that it's a Bulgarian dialect written in the Serbian alphabet. And these extra letters in Serbian Cyrillic are fun, but add a layer of complexity. Sadly, I think I'll have to stick to learning Russian - only because it's the most widely spoken. Personally, I would rather have conversations with Bulgarians, especially these days with the kind of nations Russia and Serbia are becoming.
I’m trying to learn this language from one of my friends. He’s a language teacher. I help his pronunciation of English and he helps me with Serbian. I’m struggling with the R sound since it’s not a natural sound in U.K. English. Any tips?
@@STARKILLER15100 It's hard to understand because it's so easy for me. I see RUclips has lots of videos showing how to do this. You basically slap your tongue on the roof of the mouth, and it's in an U shape. It's like a D but D uses front of tongue, R uses middle of tongue. Try saying 'Derek' (a common name), that uses front, middle then back of tongue, slapping the roof of the mouth.
Update: I can now roll the R. It took a lot of practice but again my friend helped. Gave me a riddle to keep saying over and over until I could get the sound down
Can you do Russian and Church Slavonic next? I love the Cyrillic script! It's very interesting. I'm making my own original Cyrillic alphabet that uses rhe Latin script.
@@daca8395 I agree, yeah. But as a lover of writing, I love complicated scripts. Our modern script is indeed practical and suits us perfectly, but the old ones look cooler If you ask me. 😍😍🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸
@@ΔοσίθεοςΤρνηνητς I disagree. Why would we need to memorise 10 extra characters that either serven no purpose, or have lost their original meanings. Only advantages I might see is the reimplementation of yat in the limited capacity, to mark the sounds thet differ between ekavian, ijekavian and ikavian. Otherwise, we have no need for any other letters then 30 we allready use
It's interesting that you say the reasons for the simplification of Serbian Cyrillic are entirely political. I would think that at least part of the reason parallels the wide variety of orthographic modernizations we see throughout modern languages - spelling reforms aimed at phonetic legibility, typological simplification for easier international publishing using letterpress, and attempts at increasing literacy rates by simplifying writing systems. These are almost always the reasons behind such reforms. I don't doubt that Austro-Hungary treated the Serbian language with some suspicion at certain times in it's history. Serbian relations with it's neighbors have a habit of frequently becoming antagonistic and depending on the historical situation, sometimes the reasons are very understandable (and sometimes barely understandable at all, to be frank.) In any event, I suspect a more detailed historical analysis would show that the motives for orthographic reform are more varied than they initially seem. Personally, having studied numerous writing systems, I am very much an advocate of modernization. Reading historical spellings and scripts is great fun, but modernized writing systems greatly benefit literacy and clarity in communication!
Why is he pronouncing the sounds in a Russian accent? Serbian is not this tense and is a bit softer. He's also speaking English more like in a Russian accent than in Serbian.
That is apsolutly wrong! Serbian language evolved differently from russian, and we just didn't and stil dont need extra signs that were used in slavenoserbian. And Austria was never that powerfull!
How rude of you! He is correct and responsible man He will now be a replacement for Chip Heath and Dan Heath! And he is the best in my Goodies and a Serbia hero of the Serbia country and I felt bad for him of those hungrian losers! Because he is the hero!
Wrong. Џ is a hard dzh. Its pronounced like the ending of garadge (in britain). Ђ is more softer version. Like gi in Bongiorno. If you listen closely you can hear the tiny differenece. The same is for Ch sound. There ist Ч like in ca(tch) and there is Ћ like in italian (Ci)ao. It may seem as there is no logic, but it is necessary for our language because we recognise them as separate sounds and they cannot be wirtten with the same letter. It just sound weird and illiterate if you try to do it on purpose. Greetings!
i sent this to my Bulgarian friend he sent me Bulgarian Alphabet
It seems that Bulgarian Cyrillic is the most legible and simple version of the alphabet, compared to Russian, Ukrainian, Moldovan, Serbian and Macedonian. The irregular pronunciations in Russian are a little frustrating to foreign learners. I imagine there's something similar in Macedonian, given that it's a Bulgarian dialect written in the Serbian alphabet. And these extra letters in Serbian Cyrillic are fun, but add a layer of complexity.
Sadly, I think I'll have to stick to learning Russian - only because it's the most widely spoken. Personally, I would rather have conversations with Bulgarians, especially these days with the kind of nations Russia and Serbia are becoming.
I’m trying to learn this language from one of my friends. He’s a language teacher. I help his pronunciation of English and he helps me with Serbian. I’m struggling with the R sound since it’s not a natural sound in U.K. English. Any tips?
You can't roll the R?
Kira Lee nope. Never been able too. I’m learning now. I can kind of when I’m not thinking about it. But when I focus on it I can’t do it :(
@@STARKILLER15100 It's hard to understand because it's so easy for me. I see RUclips has lots of videos showing how to do this. You basically slap your tongue on the roof of the mouth, and it's in an U shape. It's like a D but D uses front of tongue, R uses middle of tongue. Try saying 'Derek' (a common name), that uses front, middle then back of tongue, slapping the roof of the mouth.
Sorry man. If you are from the UK 🇬🇧 it is impossible for you to speak slavic languages. Its all because of your queen. You should take her down.
Update: I can now roll the R. It took a lot of practice but again my friend helped. Gave me a riddle to keep saying over and over until I could get the sound down
Can you do Russian and Church Slavonic next? I love the Cyrillic script! It's very interesting. I'm making my own original Cyrillic alphabet that uses rhe Latin script.
I was always thinking and knew your name is nice man
I'm shocked by his accent
In serbia, Russian Letters do "ЖУ... ЖУ...".
I am getting confused with ć like the suffix of Serbian last names Jovanović and č. Somebody help me. Which one is like church?
Ć is softer. Č is harder.
When I speak english, I use č for cherry/church and ć for ciao.
Was Vuk Karadzhić, inventor of modern serbian alphabet, an Austro-Hungarian agent?:) Besides, there was independent Serbian state in those times)
He was not A-H agent😂 but yeah, he could let us some letters like
Ѣ, or ξ, ψ
@@ΔοσίθεοςΤρνηνητς we do not need them! Our language has 30 letters that sute it perfectly! No more, no less!
Da
@@daca8395 I agree, yeah. But as a lover of writing, I love complicated scripts. Our modern script is indeed practical and suits us perfectly, but the old ones look cooler If you ask me. 😍😍🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸
@@ΔοσίθεοςΤρνηνητς I disagree. Why would we need to memorise 10 extra characters that either serven no purpose, or have lost their original meanings.
Only advantages I might see is the reimplementation of yat in the limited capacity, to mark the sounds thet differ between ekavian, ijekavian and ikavian. Otherwise, we have no need for any other letters then 30 we allready use
It's interesting that you say the reasons for the simplification of Serbian Cyrillic are entirely political. I would think that at least part of the reason parallels the wide variety of orthographic modernizations we see throughout modern languages - spelling reforms aimed at phonetic legibility, typological simplification for easier international publishing using letterpress, and attempts at increasing literacy rates by simplifying writing systems. These are almost always the reasons behind such reforms.
I don't doubt that Austro-Hungary treated the Serbian language with some suspicion at certain times in it's history. Serbian relations with it's neighbors have a habit of frequently becoming antagonistic and depending on the historical situation, sometimes the reasons are very understandable (and sometimes barely understandable at all, to be frank.)
In any event, I suspect a more detailed historical analysis would show that the motives for orthographic reform are more varied than they initially seem.
Personally, having studied numerous writing systems, I am very much an advocate of modernization. Reading historical spellings and scripts is great fun, but modernized writing systems greatly benefit literacy and clarity in communication!
I am confused with the ć and č.
Me as speaking this language.
Do the old Serbian alphabet
IPA does not correspond to the pronunciation of hissing, to my ears.
АБВГДЂЕЖЗИЈКЛЉМНЊОПРСТЋУФХЦЧЏШ
abvgddžežzijklłmnñoprstćufhcčdżš
ABVGDDŽEŽZIJKLŁMNÑOPRCTĆUFHCČDŻŠ
abvgddżežzijklłmnñoprstćufhcč
abvgddżežzijklłmnñoprstćufxtstšdžš
abvgddżežzijklłmnñoprstćufhcčdžš
I'm in serbia
M
Why do I see letters like p b t d ʈ ɖ c ɟ k ɡ q ɢ m ɱ ʙ n r ɳ ɽ ɲ ŋ ɴ ʀ ʔ ɸ f θ ɬ s ʃ ʂ ç x χ ħ h β v ð ɮ z ʒ ʐ ʝ ɣ ʁ ʕ ɦ w ʋ ɹ l ɻ ɭ ɥ j j ʎ ɰ pɸ p̪f bβ b̪v t̠ɹ̠̊˔ tɬ t̪θ tɹ̝̊ tʃ ts tɕ dʑ dz dʒ dɹ̝ d̪ð dɮ d̠ɹ̠˔ ʈʂ ʈɭ̊ ɖʐ cç cʎ̝̊ ɟʝ kx kʟ̝̊ ɡɣ ɡʟ̝ ⁿ ɿ ɾ ˞ ȵ ˀ ʡ ʢ pɸ p̪f t̪θ ᶿ tɬ ts ᶴ ʅ tʃ ɧ ʆ ʈʂ cç ɕ tɕ t ˣ kx ɧ and stuff like that IPA chart
This is the pronounciation.
Why is he pronouncing the sounds in a Russian accent? Serbian is not this tense and is a bit softer. He's also speaking English more like in a Russian accent than in Serbian.
Russian is softer than Serbian
This pure Serbian accent in English
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Do you give lessons? If so please email me to: andrealosangeles@yahoo.com
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A B V G D DZ E ZH Z I J K L Y M N NN O P R S T TC U F X TS TL D3 /
A B V G D DZ E ZH Z I J K L Y M N N O P R S T TC U F X TS T/ D3 /
That is apsolutly wrong! Serbian language evolved differently from russian, and we just didn't and stil dont need extra signs that were used in slavenoserbian. And Austria was never that powerfull!
Did you finnish school?
@@skdkdjsjimfnsk607 more school then you
How rude of you! He is correct and responsible man He will now be a replacement for Chip Heath and Dan Heath! And he is the best in my Goodies and a Serbia hero of the Serbia country and I felt bad for him of those hungrian losers! Because he is the hero!
@@Cubixander i hope his responsibleness will help him in your Goodies against these hungrian losers!
@@Cubixander r/woooosh
A B V G D
DZ E Ę Z I
J K L LJ M N NJ O P R S T
TČ U F X TS T/ D3 /
Ovo je kompletna glupost!
Zasto?
Okej?
Fennece foxy the idiotic robot fox pitala sam zasto
2 letters for "dzh"
And 2 letters for "ch"
Fuck logic
Wrong. Џ is a hard dzh. Its pronounced like the ending of garadge (in britain). Ђ is more softer version. Like gi in Bongiorno. If you listen closely you can hear the tiny differenece. The same is for Ch sound. There ist Ч like in ca(tch) and there is Ћ like in italian (Ci)ao.
It may seem as there is no logic, but it is necessary for our language because we recognise them as separate sounds and they cannot be wirtten with the same letter. It just sound weird and illiterate if you try to do it on purpose.
Greetings!
АБВГДЂЕЖЗИЈКЛЉМНЊОПРСТЋУФХЦЧЏШЅ
AaBbVvGgDdJjEeŽžZzIiYyKkLlMmNnOoPpRrSsTtTŠtšUuFfXxTStsČčDŽdžŠš