This is my personal car in the video having the unit fitted (just fortuitous timing as my car was at FGP having air con and suspension work done when the PCCM+ units got delivered) and i just wanted to say that i've been using the unit for about 2 weeks now and it is a game changer compared to the original unit. Sound quality is great, having dab, apple car play and bluetooth for phone/music really does bring the car up to date. It charges my phone when it is plugged in for apple car play as well. It looks in keeping with the interior with the Porsche logo embossed on the front of the unit and a large Porsche crest that comes on the screen when you start the car. The service from FGP was outstanding.... fast, efficient, great value and totally professional at all times . A huge thank you to Luke, Olly and the team. Wishing you all a healthy and prosperous 2023. Regards, Paul.
@@Dome-ee4mf Looks pretty good , plastic has lips on top and bottom that go over metal and latch on, so wiggle off the 2 rotating knobs, and facia is easily removed.
I went with the Nav-TV adapter cable about 10 years ago that lets me run any aftermarket headunit I want with my 997.1TT (including wireless Carplay) -- works beautifully for me. Good to see Porsche is putting effort into making an official solution though - not many manufacturers have this kind of dedication to their products.
Thank you so much for showing this. I am actually the designer for the buttons + knobs oem-looking 987/997 android unit to be released worldwide shortly. I just want to say that i can definitely appreciate what porsche has done here. I love the - oem nav info directed to the instrument cluster - very cool. i am guessing that this functionality will not work under waze/google maps under carplay/AA? - hvac memory controls - full oem pcm functionality being able to access core functionality without piwis / durametric / foxwell530 - bracket mounting system with the heat clearance to install the fibre optic box (i wish I had thought of this) - 4 (fader control) via the fibreOptic adapter. almost all of the aftermarket fibreOptic adapters are 2 channel. Definitely great that porsche has retained this. As for the reverse trigger issue that I see, it is amazing that the pcm harness intercepts the reverse trigger signal in the 997.1. I'm going to guess this was done via proper canBus decoding for the .1 (the afterrmarket canBus decoders have been able to decode the .2 reverse trigger but not the .1 cars). I couldnt find the physical reverse wire in the .1 radio harness, but i did certainly try (unsuccessfully) - so i grabbed it from either the kick panel / tail light. Based on my own experience with my unit, I am guessing that porsche will do is likely supply a harness that will fit in remaining unused android slots that will have - RCA rear cam AHD input - power/ground splice for rear cam If they wanted to go all out with this upgrade, with the above features that seem to be coming, perhaps they can still add - a RCA front cam AHD input (i have this on my 997.1 in my android 997 prototype unit and its very useful) - maybe even a rear USB input (that can be extended) for usb carplay input that can be re-routed in the centre console armrest ( i have this in my 997 too) - tpms sensor upgrade + module (for 2005/2006 cars) - i have this supported in my android unit for my 05) - wireless carplay/AA support - firmware flash to enable the above (if needed) I cant wait to give this badboy a test in person in due time and compare. Looks great and has some amazing features I wish I could have implemented / thought of. Thanks for this video
@@Szlasa owTowsin - it was the most sold android unit worldwide for the 997s due to the rennlist + facebook retroFit threads. I am trying to see if i can get a coupon Code to further help.
Looking forward to the US release! It's quite disappointing that Car Play is not wireless! I would consider wireless Car Play to be a minimum feature for a new PCM. All the same, it looks fantastic and I will be replacing the Alpine I installed a few years ago. I lost rear speaker fader control, and all the car and trip info. And, thank God, actual knobs will be back in the car.
While I agree that wireless Apple CarPlay is ideal, I do not like the newest generation of wireless chargers in most vehicles. Especially when the phone has a case on it, they do not work well at all and the phone frequently has to cut charging off because it is getting too hot. I know this has nothing to do with wireless CarPlay but having to plug in your phone to get CarPlay has the added benefit of charging the phone correctly. It only takes a few seconds and then you have the "bonus" of having a charged up phone when you are done driving or have reached your destination. Just something to consider...
For interested watchers, we took reservation deposits for all five units within 24 hours of taking delivery of them and posting images on social media. We have another ten due for delivery, so please be in touch if you’d like one fitted to your car.
Very curious about the camera. That was the only reason I was going with an aftermarket head unit. Wireless ACP would have been nice but honestly it's more reliable with the wire. Is there a usb in the back of the unit?
Thanks very much for the video guys. The product FAQ suggests the reverse camera support is for the factory Cayenne camera "12. Will the factory-installed rear view camera of my first-generation Cayenne continue to be supported?? Yes, the factory-installed rear view camera is connected to the PCCM Plus by means of a multi-adapter."
Amazing! Thank you! Years ago I installed an Alpine unit in my 997.1. A volume knob is mandatory in my book so the options at the time were limited. I would have killed for an OE Porsche unit, especially with CarPlay. Install was a pain because the full size double-din box and MOST fiberoptic adapter had to be crammed into the space. This install looks like a piece of cake in comparison. Now I'm at a crossroads. Do I toss the perfectly good Alpine and spend $1300 just to upgrade my weekend fun toy?? It's not even my DD. The devil is whispering into my ear that I should do it.
Thank you very much for posting this! I have been waiting forever for this to come out. I'm planning to get one for sure....gotta find out what happens with my CD changer....and I wonder if you could splice the microphone connector for this unit onto leads the OEM mics and bypass using the included one?!
@MAK23 I have a volume problem with Bluetooth and car play. I took it to porsche unfortunately i knew more about the unit than they did. My original bose system sounded MUCH better with a wireless $12 Bluetooth adapter. Unit looks great. Easy to install.
@@David-hn5ix thanks for the reply. Sorry to hear about that. It’s funny you mention that because I have a $12 Bluetooth adapter as well ha ha. And honestly it doesn’t sound bad. It’s just when trying to make phone calls it’s not the best for the recipient, and of course, it’s an old system. I have the Bose stereo system as well. Now it almost makes me wonder if I should even do it. $1500 plus God knows how much labor at the dealership or the headache of doing it myself to basically get a touchscreen?
Great post guys - well done for getting this done and out there - brilliant to see it in the flesh. Couple of observations (on the unit - not your install or video) - I think it's a backwards step to only have USB presentation on the front - I would want to be able to route a cable from the rear to an armrest cubby or the glovebox - phone cable hanging out the front is horrid., would have preferred the box like the 9x6 version if I couldn't just run the cable where I wanted it. Also - massive miss that it's not available for a .2 car, that just seems like a marketing decision to me. Anyway - thanks for this - very very good.
The .2 car has a different PCM, so yet another unit has to be designed. And, given that Porsche's policy is apparently to introduce such units circa 15 years after the cars went out of production, the .2 unit isn't expected until late 2026/early 2027.
@@nigel.w yup - PCM 3 is different to PCM2 but the differences aren't massive when it comes to interface and connectivity to the car. A different fascia ( which they already did for the Cayenne) and some additional logic for the slightly different canbus signals required. but the .2 Canbus setup is very similar to a .1 there isn't a large engineering effort. When they decide to bring it to market is purely a marketing decision, nothing is going to change on the .2 cars in the next few years - all that is going to happen is fewer people will be prepared to pay that kind of premium on cars that are by then worth a lot less than they are today - and the market will be further narrowed because people will turn to 3rd party solutions. It seems a flawed approach to me
@@PaulPeard I largely agree. But maybe they don't want to be constantly updating these kind of units? So the resultant logic is maybe to market new units every four years, and upgrade the units every 15 years? Obviously, I don't really know. However, I think your reasoning is basically sound in so far as the demand for such units when the cars are worth significantly less may well be lower. Then again, maybe not. For sure, some will go third party in the meantime. Then again, some people in this thread who already went third party on their .1s said they're going to replace their thrid party units with this. Anyway, it is obviously very frustrating for current .2 owners, and to be further frustrated by no explicit policy from Porsche about expected release dates.
Nice! I wish they could do something similar to bring the 991.1 up a notch as well. I'd love DAB+ and Android Auto on my 991.1. I know there are 3rd party upgrades available to the PCM3.1, but it would be good if Porsche could do something from the factory.
Very impressive and with the additional features on this model over the 996 version. Would definitely justify the cost especially with the reversing camera fitted. Noice 👌🏼😊
Finally the wait is over 🙂, one question does the front "grey" facia come off easily? I've had my centre PCM/HVAC section painted matt black so would need to be able to remove the facia plate to have it painted to match.
Hi, this is a great video! I'm already on Suncoast's waiting list for the 987/997 PCCM+ unit. How can I reach out to you to see if I can pick one up from you guys stateside? Excited to get my hands on one soon - I've held off on any aftermarket units for years now to pick a PCCM+ unit up.
Great job lads, great looking unit. What did you mean regarding bypassing the amp, is that the am/fm amp loop shown in the video or the optional amp thats sometimes fitted in the front by the toolkit? I have the extra amp in the front, which means an additional brown plug to whats shown in the video. I can see there is a space for it on the new unit, must go straight in as no adapter is provided?
@@michaelmctomney7568 with the install you dont bypass the antenna amp, you replace them. The Fibre bypass cable is for bypassing the CD Changer and Amp in the boot. They are no longer required/used with the new head unit
Very nice integration! same color, same buttons to keep the original style. It seems the CD/MP3 player is gone but I guess you can still play the 6 CDs in the charger? Does it play music from the USB-A port with a stick connected to it? Also, does it have a wireless Apple Car play or one needs to use the USB-A port with the phone connected to it? Is there any plan to add the USB-C as well?
Hmm - I could be wrong. I quickly skimmed it and since I saw many porsche canBus specific features retained - I assumed the sport chronos features all retained as well
Hello gentlemen's, thank you very much for your video. It helps me a lot for the installation of my PCCM+! However, I have a question: The cable PCG.645.573.00 is used to connect what with what? My configuration: PCM 2.1, GPS, Bose. Thank you from Switzerland.
Do you guys know if you can spec this unit with a leather surround? My Turbo has full leather including the PCM unit and heater controls below, so the standard grey finish shown here would look out of place. Thanks.
Great vid guys. Looks like it ticked all my boxes (real audiophiles always opt for wired, plus the wired carplay keeps the phone charged). I will have my installer connecting the rear cam as well. The only minor design flaw is the USB not to be USB-C. I hope it is at least 3.2. (2017) to work with USB-C cables. AS UBS4 (C) came out in 2021, Porsche must be designing this unit for some years ;-).
I see lots of questions in the comments about the backup camera. You mentioned you were having it fitted. Did it work? Did you need anything special? Anything you can share would be useful.
Hi all, a couple of weeks ago I had pccm plus installed on my 997 turbo with bose. Everything works quite well, but the volume at maximum is low. Have you noticed the same thing too?
I have a 987 Cayman S first generation and I'm very curious because I have the CDR 24 sound system with 10 speakers. If I install the PCCM Plus will I get the same features like the models with sat nav? I can't wait to have this in my Porsche!
This is making me consider older Porsches for my next. Something about the 987 Boxster is drawing me in now that I can have a factory look and CarPlay in a modern classic. Personally, I think the majority of users will use CarPlay or Android Auto 90% of the time - as I do with the JoyeAuto unit on my 981. Makes you wonder why they bothered with the PCCM+ navigation tbh!
The PCCM+ nav always works, even if there is no cellular network, or the phone battery is dead, or your phone breaks on a trip or is pickpocketed, or you drop it in the toilet... It's just always there...
Well done getting this out so soon. Impressed with all the integration with the dash and other settings. Does it facilitate bass and fader adjustment on Bose cars (where normally aftermarket fitments do not)?
i'm ok with the exposed usb, since Ill stick a small usb stick with MP3's in there anyway but they could have put a flap/cap over that map thingie, since nobody will ever change that on any decent frequency and put a USB on a lead in the back so you can put it in the glove comparement with your phone, or in the center console comparement with an extension
Hi, do you have part numbers for the two antenna boosters and the module bypass lead? I'm trying to convert my Boxster 987.1 windscreen from AM/FM to DAB. Would I need a new coax lead to the radio?
Great video. The rear connectors are the same like the PCCM on the 996. So I think, you could connect the external mediabox from the 996 there. Have you ever tried it? Did you connect an extra cable for the possible rearview camera?
I just had the unut installed in the US for my 07 997, not bose.. but the sound volume, bass response (turned up at equalizer) and clarity seems to be worse that mmy original porche sound package plus when playing cd's so now thinking about amplifier and speaker upgrade. Feels like the amplifier is underpowered compared to the original Becker unit. Did anyone else experience the same performance drop ?
I have a 987 Cayman would this work in my Porsche? I have a error amplifier not available message. Does this use the existing amplifier? I was looking for an upgrade to my system, the price is a bit high, but its looks so original and that makes it worth it for me. I would hate to order this and find I still have the same problem. Ive been thru all the reset suggestions, the radio seems to function, but just no sound.
Hello, I’m in the US and getting ready to install the PCCm plus in my 997.1 Turbo Tiptronic. Do I need to remove the CD player in the frunk or no? And does the amp need to be removed or no? I have an orange loop MOST connector but not sure it’s needed if CD changer & or amp doesn’t needed to be removed. Thank you for any help?
Will the 996 PCCM Plus every get updated to allow a reversing camera? And usb on the facia? I have held off getting the PCCM Plus because of the lack of a reversing camera input
That caused me some hesitation but in the end, I’ve gone for PCCM+ on my 996.2, despite no camera. The improvements on satnav, ability to Bluetooth my phone, legal (hands free) phone calls make it necessary to enjoy my car. Also, silly reason #5, sticky main buttons will get replaced 🙃
Hi there! Nice vid - on the subject of MOST/Bose, do you get the impression that its digital all the way to the amp? Or do you think the external MOST box is doing the same as other aftermarket solutions (i.e. A2D conversion of the line-level output). Ignition noise/interference is a bit of a problem on my current aftermarket Bose solution.
I’ve got a Cayman S 987.1 2006 with Bose & Phone that I bought new, and I’ll tell you those graphics looked dated in 2006 and the GSM stopped working 11 years ago due to telecom protocol here in the USA. I hope I can find one 0:13 of these PCCM+ units because my PCM screen just fried.
What is the center set of pins used for on the lower right side of the PCCM+? There are three sets, the right side is for the AM/FM and Sirius XM, the Left Side is the Can Bus....but the center set is not used. What is it for? I have having left over parts or pieces not used!
That looks a great unit to get an OE look, however I'd be lieing if I said I was happy with how the microphone fits and no rear USB. Seems like they could have made the mic fit the original location and just replaced the OE item. Not quite sure about the interference issue on the longer USB leads - none of the aftermarket units seem to have this issue. Also seems a bit weird that they didn't just make the unit full double-DIN as having to put in the separate MOST adapter seems a bit odd for an OE solution. Otherwise the ability for it to communicate with the instrument cluster is brilliant, that's the only thing I 'miss' about my Pioneer - oh and front/rear MOST balance and fade which would be good to have.
Re the most hur adapter - it’s Becuz it’s based on an android 6 device, not an oem becker unit. That’s why none of the oem mic, gps etc is compatible With that said this is the ONLY aftermarket unit with a 4 channel fiber optic converter - porsche may have ponied up the cash to develop this custom part. Also kudos to how all the canBus programming is on point re native to porsche internal internal functions. Ie trip computer etc
Looks great. I'm seriously in doubt to buy this. What would u say: is it possible to run a hidden wire with USB-connection to the armrest or hide wireless connection-box ?
I’m on the cusp of buying it but still trying to find out about the backup camera. My local Porsche dealership (in Canada) didn’t have an answer over the phone so I’m still on the fence with my stereo upgrade for my 987.1
Hi guys, great video. Questions; 1. How is this integrated with BOSE audio system? 2. Is the installation procedure is well detail (example how to remove the side windows trims)? 3. After installation, can I remove the old navigation system that's in the trunk?
Thank you or the video, also how do the bluetooth phone calls work? Where is the microphone located and can other people hear you at motorway speeds? I would like know how good is the quality.
@@bjarneen1686 built into the PCCM+ headend unit? I noticed the top right corner is a light sensor... Does the system support both at the same time (built in and wired into the rear of the unit)?
Hi, could you tell me if in Carplay mode you get the song listing and/or navigation directions on the instrument cluster or does is permanently say APP or APP Navigation like the 996 model
Thank you for this video. I have installed through a Porsche specialist the new PCCM + on my 997.1 GT3 and it's amazing to enjoy Apple CarPlay on this car despite the fact that a camera is not possible to connect and function for an unknown reason. Another issue more disturbing is the fact that the FM and DAB+ reception is very bad and sensible depending to the location of the car from one street to the next. or sometimes even within a few meters distance. May be someone has a tip or solution that seems to appear frequently on some forum topics. I would really appreciate some help.
You need to get a trigger wire on the plug (position 6)for the revering camera- after that is the same as fitting any reverse camera- Fakra to RCA and camera from Amazon - Need to do factory reset so it recognises the camera and then configure PCCM
So there is no RCA outputs available ? I would love to be able to connect it to an aftermarket amp and replace the oem Bose speakers with a high end aftermarket option
Nice looking unit🤩 Some stupid already outdated futures: no wireless CarPlay. USB A and not usb c, so need to use a dongle for modern iphone cables…😖 Why a not everything allready in the unit but on/in top bracket….. Still love the look!❤
EDIT & CORRECTION: It apparently does have bluetooth. That is good news! GPS software is now Q2/2021, which is a relief. I suppose with appleplay and google maps, it renders this somewhat obsolete, except when you're in areas where there is no phone reception (common in some areas of the USA). I actually used the mapping software this past fall to get me out of a traffic jam in a remote area of the US. CD no longer in the unit as well. I still use the CD as it reads MP3 files from the CD and I can add 5-10 standard CDs to a single disk. The video mentioned 1499 quid for the unit and install. I saw that the unit here in NA was $1479, installation extra. Doesn't seem to be a difficult install as the FM & GPS units in the columns may not be necessary... Sam Toscano
Hi there.. My 997 has a stock disc changer in the glove box. Does anyone know if this new unit will still control or allow access to the cd deck in the glove box? Please let me know if you know.. Thanks
Apologies if already answered but a) does USB also allow iPhone charging concurrent with CarPlay connectivity? and b) Is the “deck” upgradable meaning as Apple updates CarPlay, so too will the unit will maintain compatibility. thnx p.s. -microphone is mounted inside steering wheel column (specifically under the near rectangular perforations on the black clamshell plastic cover). Why mount above??
@@mikelewis5049 Thank you! What I meant is that is the PCCM+ software upgradable? It must be running a specific version of the Android OS as well as application code(s). Apple releases new CarPlay code - Just looking to confirm that the PCCM+ will be capable of following along. The factory microphone is installed inside the steering column clamshell - you could also replace with the PCCM+ mic in addition to mounting above as you have.
Kind of disappointed that they didn't get the OBC working on the 996 like they did here, taking a look through the documentation it looks like it was all in software...
We have no info on when a variant for the second generation cars will be available. But, saying that, we also had next to no info on when this variant would be released. Porsche themselves seem to know very little about the unit. In fact, a lot of dealers seem to know very little about the 996 PCCM+, or how to fit it, and that unit has been out for over two years now!
@@tom24057 fingers and toes crossed! But based on the 24+ month gap between the 996 and 997.1 variants being released, I’d anticipate it being at least this amount of time before the 997.2 unit is with us. Porsche, prove me wrong!
So the backup camera is designed only to work with Cayenne factory installed camera. Always a work around for the clever I guess. Great product though other than not designing it to work with after market cameras as well.
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This is my personal car in the video having the unit fitted (just fortuitous timing as my car was at FGP having air con and suspension work done when the PCCM+ units got delivered) and i just wanted to say that i've been using the unit for about 2 weeks now and it is a game changer compared to the original unit. Sound quality is great, having dab, apple car play and bluetooth for phone/music really does bring the car up to date. It charges my phone when it is plugged in for apple car play as well. It looks in keeping with the interior with the Porsche logo embossed on the front of the unit and a large Porsche crest that comes on the screen when you start the car. The service from FGP was outstanding.... fast, efficient, great value and totally professional at all times . A huge thank you to Luke, Olly and the team. Wishing you all a healthy and prosperous 2023.
Regards,
Paul.
Hi, do you know if the front mask can be disassembled to be painted? My 997 has a white interior...
@@Dome-ee4mf mine arrives today, will have a look at the facia if its clipped on (I expect so).. stdby for update
@@stijnvandamme76 thank you!!!
@@Dome-ee4mf Looks pretty good , plastic has lips on top and bottom that go over metal and latch on, so wiggle off the 2 rotating knobs, and facia is easily removed.
@@stijnvandamme76 great news, thanks a lot! Do you have any pictures of those lips? Just to show them to the dealer.
I went with the Nav-TV adapter cable about 10 years ago that lets me run any aftermarket headunit I want with my 997.1TT (including wireless Carplay) -- works beautifully for me. Good to see Porsche is putting effort into making an official solution though - not many manufacturers have this kind of dedication to their products.
Thank you so much for showing this.
I am actually the designer for the buttons + knobs oem-looking 987/997 android unit to be released worldwide shortly.
I just want to say that i can definitely appreciate what porsche has done here. I love the
- oem nav info directed to the instrument cluster - very cool. i am guessing that this functionality will not work under waze/google maps under carplay/AA?
- hvac memory controls
- full oem pcm functionality being able to access core functionality without piwis / durametric / foxwell530
- bracket mounting system with the heat clearance to install the fibre optic box (i wish I had thought of this)
- 4 (fader control) via the fibreOptic adapter. almost all of the aftermarket fibreOptic adapters are 2 channel. Definitely great that porsche has retained this.
As for the reverse trigger issue that I see, it is amazing that the pcm harness intercepts the reverse trigger signal in the 997.1. I'm going to guess this was done via proper canBus decoding for the .1 (the afterrmarket canBus decoders have been able to decode the .2 reverse trigger but not the .1 cars). I couldnt find the physical reverse wire in the .1 radio harness, but i did certainly try (unsuccessfully) - so i grabbed it from either the kick panel / tail light.
Based on my own experience with my unit, I am guessing that porsche will do is likely supply a harness that will fit in remaining unused android slots that will have
- RCA rear cam AHD input
- power/ground splice for rear cam
If they wanted to go all out with this upgrade, with the above features that seem to be coming, perhaps they can still add
- a RCA front cam AHD input (i have this on my 997.1 in my android 997 prototype unit and its very useful)
- maybe even a rear USB input (that can be extended) for usb carplay input that can be re-routed in the centre console armrest ( i have this in my 997 too)
- tpms sensor upgrade + module (for 2005/2006 cars) - i have this supported in my android unit for my 05)
- wireless carplay/AA support
- firmware flash to enable the above (if needed)
I cant wait to give this badboy a test in person in due time and compare. Looks great and has some amazing features I wish I could have implemented / thought of.
Thanks for this video
What is the brand for your android unit you’re involved in? I’ve used xtrons android units in 997/987 cars but they lack buttons.
@@Szlasa owTowsin - it was the most sold android unit worldwide for the 997s due to the rennlist + facebook retroFit threads. I am trying to see if i can get a coupon Code to further help.
btw guys - the reverse camera situation has been fully figured out on RennList , including the reverse trigger for manual cars.
@@michaelywong do you have a link to that?
@@bjarneen1686 did you find it? Easily found on rennlist 997 forum
Lovely job and it really seems worth getting the Porsche product above a generic double din aftermarket unit.
It’s well worth the added expense, in our humble opinion.
Looking forward to the US release! It's quite disappointing that Car Play is not wireless! I would consider wireless Car Play to be a minimum feature for a new PCM. All the same, it looks fantastic and I will be replacing the Alpine I installed a few years ago. I lost rear speaker fader control, and all the car and trip info. And, thank God, actual knobs will be back in the car.
While I agree that wireless Apple CarPlay is ideal, I do not like the newest generation of wireless chargers in most vehicles. Especially when the phone has a case on it, they do not work well at all and the phone frequently has to cut charging off because it is getting too hot. I know this has nothing to do with wireless CarPlay but having to plug in your phone to get CarPlay has the added benefit of charging the phone correctly. It only takes a few seconds and then you have the "bonus" of having a charged up phone when you are done driving or have reached your destination. Just something to consider...
Thank you for sharing this information so quickly. I drove 500 miles recently with my newly installed PCCM+ thanks to you!!
Great overview video and the unit is a game changer as mentioned in the previous comment. In my view, the 997 is even more the perfect modern classic!
For interested watchers, we took reservation deposits for all five units within 24 hours of taking delivery of them and posting images on social media. We have another ten due for delivery, so please be in touch if you’d like one fitted to your car.
Hi, do you know if the front plate can be removed to be painted? My 997 has a white interior...
Thanks, what about the rear camera? Did you get feedback from Porsche on that?
Hello, great video! I have a 2008 997.1 and would like to get car play - I am in the EU, so I will need that version - thank
You still supply these units? Or is there a better option now?
Very curious about the camera. That was the only reason I was going with an aftermarket head unit. Wireless ACP would have been nice but honestly it's more reliable with the wire. Is there a usb in the back of the unit?
Why they didn't allow for wireless CarPlay is a mystery. It's likely such a simple/easy hardware adjustment for them.
especially with the front facing USB, it looks fussy. At least with an external box you can hide the cables
Thanks guys! Do you know if the stock USB and aux port in the centre console still work with the new unit?
Fantastic,you guys are quite simply THE BEST👍
Great video, excited that they've finally released these for the 997s.
Thanks very much for the video guys.
The product FAQ suggests the reverse camera support is for the factory Cayenne camera
"12. Will the factory-installed rear view camera of my first-generation Cayenne continue to be supported?? Yes, the factory-installed rear view camera is connected to the PCCM Plus by means of a multi-adapter."
Amazing! Thank you! Years ago I installed an Alpine unit in my 997.1. A volume knob is mandatory in my book so the options at the time were limited. I would have killed for an OE Porsche unit, especially with CarPlay. Install was a pain because the full size double-din box and MOST fiberoptic adapter had to be crammed into the space. This install looks like a piece of cake in comparison. Now I'm at a crossroads. Do I toss the perfectly good Alpine and spend $1300 just to upgrade my weekend fun toy?? It's not even my DD. The devil is whispering into my ear that I should do it.
Yes !
NIce video, thanks.
Have you heard any info, if the 997 PCCM+ will also come for the 997.2 FL from 2009 onward?
Regrads
Andreas
Any updates?
@NoRegertsHere No :-(
@ was looking at some forums. 2004 first year for 997.1. 2023 PCCM.
2008 first year for 997.2, 2027 PCCM.
Great vid, is there any indication when Porsche will release the PCCM+ for the 997 1.5 and .2 ?
Thank you very much for posting this! I have been waiting forever for this to come out. I'm planning to get one for sure....gotta find out what happens with my CD changer....and I wonder if you could splice the microphone connector for this unit onto leads the OEM mics and bypass using the included one?!
I know it is a bit silly but I also like having a 6 disc changer. I am oooolllld!! hahaha. Great Video guys!!
@@jamessinger8496 Yeah I want to keep my changer too....wish they wouldn't stop including disc players in the cars...
Omg, that looks brilliant, I want that in my 997 turbo. Had a aftermarket system fitted last year but this looks ace. Definitely on my list of to do’s
So far I'm very unimpressed with my new uni
@@David-hn5ix Could you please explain further? I have a 997 turbo and am looking to upgrade as well.
@MAK23 I have a volume problem with Bluetooth and car play. I took it to porsche unfortunately i knew more about the unit than they did. My original bose system sounded MUCH better with a wireless $12 Bluetooth adapter. Unit looks great. Easy to install.
@@David-hn5ix thanks for the reply. Sorry to hear about that. It’s funny you mention that because I have a $12 Bluetooth adapter as well ha ha. And honestly it doesn’t sound bad. It’s just when trying to make phone calls it’s not the best for the recipient, and of course, it’s an old system. I have the Bose stereo system as well. Now it almost makes me wonder if I should even do it. $1500 plus God knows how much labor at the dealership or the headache of doing it myself to basically get a touchscreen?
Great post guys - well done for getting this done and out there - brilliant to see it in the flesh. Couple of observations (on the unit - not your install or video) - I think it's a backwards step to only have USB presentation on the front - I would want to be able to route a cable from the rear to an armrest cubby or the glovebox - phone cable hanging out the front is horrid., would have preferred the box like the 9x6 version if I couldn't just run the cable where I wanted it. Also - massive miss that it's not available for a .2 car, that just seems like a marketing decision to me. Anyway - thanks for this - very very good.
The .2 car has a different PCM, so yet another unit has to be designed. And, given that Porsche's policy is apparently to introduce such units circa 15 years after the cars went out of production, the .2 unit isn't expected until late 2026/early 2027.
@@nigel.w yup - PCM 3 is different to PCM2 but the differences aren't massive when it comes to interface and connectivity to the car. A different fascia ( which they already did for the Cayenne) and some additional logic for the slightly different canbus signals required. but the .2 Canbus setup is very similar to a .1 there isn't a large engineering effort. When they decide to bring it to market is purely a marketing decision, nothing is going to change on the .2 cars in the next few years - all that is going to happen is fewer people will be prepared to pay that kind of premium on cars that are by then worth a lot less than they are today - and the market will be further narrowed because people will turn to 3rd party solutions. It seems a flawed approach to me
@@PaulPeard I largely agree. But maybe they don't want to be constantly updating these kind of units? So the resultant logic is maybe to market new units every four years, and upgrade the units every 15 years? Obviously, I don't really know. However, I think your reasoning is basically sound in so far as the demand for such units when the cars are worth significantly less may well be lower. Then again, maybe not. For sure, some will go third party in the meantime. Then again, some people in this thread who already went third party on their .1s said they're going to replace their thrid party units with this. Anyway, it is obviously very frustrating for current .2 owners, and to be further frustrated by no explicit policy from Porsche about expected release dates.
As usual, thank you very much for a great video, very interesting and informative. Now I need to find good installer in Provence.
Hello and congratulations on the job! Could you tell me what model of dab antenna amplifier you have installed? Is it the same left and right? Thanks
Nice! I wish they could do something similar to bring the 991.1 up a notch as well. I'd love DAB+ and Android Auto on my 991.1. I know there are 3rd party upgrades available to the PCM3.1, but it would be good if Porsche could do something from the factory.
Very impressive and with the additional features on this model over the 996 version. Would definitely justify the cost especially with the reversing camera fitted. Noice 👌🏼😊
Not having wireless CarPlay is a bit of a shocker these days! Is their a USB socket at the back of the unit to put on a Bluetooth dongle at least?
good question, I hope so too!
no usb at the back :/ no wirless carplay for us...
Design was probably finalized before wireless Apple CarPlay was introduced.
Finally the wait is over 🙂, one question does the front "grey" facia come off easily? I've had my centre PCM/HVAC section painted matt black so would need to be able to remove the facia plate to have it painted to match.
Same question for me, I've white interiors
the facia is clipped on.. remove the turn buttons and unclip to paint
@Friends Green Porsche - is the rotary controller now work correctly or is it backwards like the original pcm?
Its the same as original PCM - they are very handy - you can control just about everything - even when in Apple CarPlay
Hi, this is a great video! I'm already on Suncoast's waiting list for the 987/997 PCCM+ unit. How can I reach out to you to see if I can pick one up from you guys stateside? Excited to get my hands on one soon - I've held off on any aftermarket units for years now to pick a PCCM+ unit up.
Good on you for waiting. That way you get to keep all the trip info etc 👍😎
Į bought one in Toronto canada this week, they have 6 in stock
I have a good product, wireless Carplay, easier to install
Why don’t you plug in a reverse camera while it’s not mounted in and see if it responds?
Looks good. And, IMO, reasonably priced, too. Thanks for sharing this.
Great job lads, great looking unit.
What did you mean regarding bypassing the amp, is that the am/fm amp loop shown in the video or the optional amp thats sometimes fitted in the front by the toolkit?
I have the extra amp in the front, which means an additional brown plug to whats shown in the video. I can see there is a space for it on the new unit, must go straight in as no adapter is provided?
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@@michaelmctomney7568 with the install you dont bypass the antenna amp, you replace them. The Fibre bypass cable is for bypassing the CD Changer and Amp in the boot. They are no longer required/used with the new head unit
Very nice integration! same color, same buttons to keep the original style. It seems the CD/MP3 player is gone but I guess you can still play the 6 CDs in the charger? Does it play music from the USB-A port with a stick connected to it? Also, does it have a wireless Apple Car play or one needs to use the USB-A port with the phone connected to it? Is there any plan to add the USB-C as well?
Nice review, thanks.
Is there some form of integration with sport chrono stopwatch like in the original unit? (storing intermediate times etc.)
based on the manual released 6 months ago - it is all supported. uses all original canBus info.
@@michaelywong i gave a look to the manual and didn't find anything about the stopwatch... maybe I missed something
Hmm - I could be wrong. I quickly skimmed it and since I saw many porsche canBus specific features retained - I assumed the sport chronos features all retained as well
Hello gentlemen's, thank you very much for your video. It helps me a lot for the installation of my PCCM+! However, I have a question: The cable PCG.645.573.00 is used to connect what with what? My configuration: PCM 2.1, GPS, Bose. Thank you from Switzerland.
Gotta get this, will be in touch in the new year
Do you guys know if you can spec this unit with a leather surround? My Turbo has full leather including the PCM unit and heater controls below, so the standard grey finish shown here would look out of place. Thanks.
Same here!
No - it is only available in the colour shown in this video so far
Great vid guys. Looks like it ticked all my boxes (real audiophiles always opt for wired, plus the wired carplay keeps the phone charged). I will have my installer connecting the rear cam as well. The only minor design flaw is the USB not to be USB-C. I hope it is at least 3.2. (2017) to work with USB-C cables. AS UBS4 (C) came out in 2021, Porsche must be designing this unit for some years ;-).
I see lots of questions in the comments about the backup camera. You mentioned you were having it fitted. Did it work? Did you need anything special? Anything you can share would be useful.
Hi all, a couple of weeks ago I had pccm plus installed on my 997 turbo with bose. Everything works quite well, but the volume at maximum is low. Have you noticed the same thing too?
Same issue!! The tuner volume is fine (normal) car play and Bluetooth volume SUCKS. VERY disappointing
I have a 987 Cayman S first generation and I'm very curious because I have the CDR 24 sound system with 10 speakers. If I install the PCCM Plus will I get the same features like the models with sat nav? I can't wait to have this in my Porsche!
Yes, you will it comes with the needed hardware - GPS antenna, cables, etc.
This is making me consider older Porsches for my next. Something about the 987 Boxster is drawing me in now that I can have a factory look and CarPlay in a modern classic. Personally, I think the majority of users will use CarPlay or Android Auto 90% of the time - as I do with the JoyeAuto unit on my 981. Makes you wonder why they bothered with the PCCM+ navigation tbh!
The PCCM+ nav always works, even if there is no cellular network, or the phone battery is dead, or your phone breaks on a trip or is pickpocketed, or you drop it in the toilet... It's just always there...
How is the JoyeAuto working out for you? I’m considering it but have yet to find an installer to do the job.
@@JuanAdam12 it’s great. Do it yourself. :)
Well done getting this out so soon. Impressed with all the integration with the dash and other settings. Does it facilitate bass and fader adjustment on Bose cars (where normally aftermarket fitments do not)?
It does indeed!
Does the PCCM plus for the 996, have the same navigation steps in the instrument cluster?
Yes it does.
@@friendsgreenporsche5234 Does the instrument cluster navigation work with CarPlay, or only the built-in sat nav?
There are two Fakra connectors visible at 12:51. Where does the beige Frakra come from? How is it to be used in conventional radio with DIN connector?
i'm ok with the exposed usb, since Ill stick a small usb stick with MP3's in there anyway
but they could have put a flap/cap over that map thingie, since nobody will ever change that on any decent frequency
and put a USB on a lead in the back so you can put it in the glove comparement with your phone, or in the center console comparement with an extension
Hi, do you have part numbers for the two antenna boosters and the module bypass lead? I'm trying to convert my Boxster 987.1 windscreen from AM/FM to DAB.
Would I need a new coax lead to the radio?
Does this completely bypasses the BOSE system amplifier? And do you ship internationally?
no it uses the BOSE , it connects to the MOST fiber network
I have good products, with wireless Carplay, easier to install, with 2 USB cables, you can put it where you want without restriction
Sorry, if this is already been asked, but does the unit support a reverse camera for a manual 997.1
Yes
@@ryantheallstar Do you mean tear is a 997.1 factory reverse camera? And it works? Or an aftermarket one?
Thank you for a terrific video. What backup camera do you recommend for the PCCM+?
DO u guys install back up camera
Great video. The rear connectors are the same like the PCCM on the 996. So I think, you could connect the external mediabox from the 996 there. Have you ever tried it?
Did you connect an extra cable for the possible rearview camera?
I just had the unut installed in the US for my 07 997, not bose.. but the sound volume, bass response (turned up at equalizer) and clarity seems to be worse that mmy original porche sound package plus when playing cd's so now thinking about amplifier and speaker upgrade. Feels like the amplifier is underpowered compared to the original Becker unit. Did anyone else experience the same performance drop ?
I have a 987 Cayman would this work in my Porsche? I have a error amplifier not available message. Does this use the existing amplifier? I was looking for an upgrade to my system, the price is a bit high, but its looks so original and that makes it worth it for me. I would hate to order this and find I still have the same problem. Ive been thru all the reset suggestions, the radio seems to function, but just no sound.
Hello, I’m in the US and getting ready to install the PCCm plus in my 997.1 Turbo Tiptronic. Do I need to remove the CD player in the frunk or no? And does the amp need to be removed or no? I have an orange loop MOST connector but not sure it’s needed if CD changer & or amp doesn’t needed to be removed. Thank you for any help?
Will the 996 PCCM Plus every get updated to allow a reversing camera? And usb on the facia? I have held off getting the PCCM Plus because of the lack of a reversing camera input
That caused me some hesitation but in the end, I’ve gone for PCCM+ on my 996.2, despite no camera. The improvements on satnav, ability to Bluetooth my phone, legal (hands free) phone calls make it necessary to enjoy my car.
Also, silly reason #5, sticky main buttons will get replaced 🙃
Great video, very informative. Do you know if they are available in the USA currently?
I have a great product, wireless Carplay
Hi there! Nice vid - on the subject of MOST/Bose, do you get the impression that its digital all the way to the amp? Or do you think the external MOST box is doing the same as other aftermarket solutions (i.e. A2D conversion of the line-level output). Ignition noise/interference is a bit of a problem on my current aftermarket Bose solution.
Hello from California. Is the antenna amplifier included in the box? The american version doesn’t come with it. Where do you plug and place it?
I’ve got a Cayman S 987.1 2006 with Bose & Phone that I bought new, and I’ll tell you those graphics looked dated in 2006 and the GSM stopped working 11 years ago due to telecom protocol here in the USA. I hope I can find one 0:13 of these PCCM+ units because my PCM screen just fried.
Hello! Did you tried to connect a reverse (backup) camera?
What is the center set of pins used for on the lower right side of the PCCM+? There are three sets, the right side is for the AM/FM and Sirius XM, the Left Side is the Can Bus....but the center set is not used. What is it for? I have having left over parts or pieces not used!
Do they make a similar unit for the 997.2?
I have good products, with wireless Carplay, easier to install,
That looks a great unit to get an OE look, however I'd be lieing if I said I was happy with how the microphone fits and no rear USB. Seems like they could have made the mic fit the original location and just replaced the OE item.
Not quite sure about the interference issue on the longer USB leads - none of the aftermarket units seem to have this issue.
Also seems a bit weird that they didn't just make the unit full double-DIN as having to put in the separate MOST adapter seems a bit odd for an OE solution.
Otherwise the ability for it to communicate with the instrument cluster is brilliant, that's the only thing I 'miss' about my Pioneer - oh and front/rear MOST balance and fade which would be good to have.
Re the most hur adapter - it’s Becuz it’s based on an android 6 device, not an oem becker unit. That’s why none of the oem mic, gps etc is compatible
With that said this is the ONLY aftermarket unit with a 4 channel fiber optic converter - porsche may have ponied up the cash to develop this custom part.
Also kudos to how all the canBus programming is on point re native to porsche internal internal functions. Ie trip computer etc
Sorry, i've got to ask. What is MOST? I keep seeing it posted, but don't understand what it means.
@@DaisysButler Media Oriented System Transport
It's a Fibre Optic communication network for the audio system, the cars with BOSE tend to use it.
Any word on a PCCM+ release for the 997.2 cars? I'm desperate for an upgrade.
Is the speaker sound quality any better?
It does appear to be better amplified with more clarity to sound, which is the same with the 996 PCCM+.
@@friendsgreenporsche5234 thanks for clarification! 👍🏼
Looks great. I'm seriously in doubt to buy this. What would u say: is it possible to run a hidden wire with USB-connection to the armrest or hide wireless connection-box ?
I’m on the cusp of buying it but still trying to find out about the backup camera. My local Porsche dealership (in Canada) didn’t have an answer over the phone so I’m still on the fence with my stereo upgrade for my 987.1
I have a good product, wireless Carplay, easier to install
Any more info on reversing camera??? Cheers
Hi guys, great video. Questions; 1. How is this integrated with BOSE audio system? 2. Is the installation procedure is well detail (example how to remove the side windows trims)? 3. After installation, can I remove the old navigation system that's in the trunk?
Good questions. 1. This car had Bose. 2. The A pillar trims are very easy to remove. 3. Good question; I hope you get an answer.
@Nigel W 1. So the Bose system will work with this unit after install??
@@semaj06 I believe so.
Super helpful, thank you!
Thank you or the video, also how do the bluetooth phone calls work? Where is the microphone located and can other people hear you at motorway speeds? I would like know how good is the quality.
The mic is installed on top of the steeing column.
The included cable for the mic is very long. You could mount the mic near to the rear view mirror if you want it central to both front passengers.
There is also a built in mic on the unit. Top left corner.
@@bjarneen1686 built into the PCCM+ headend unit? I noticed the top right corner is a light sensor... Does the system support both at the same time (built in and wired into the rear of the unit)?
Thanks for the video. Has anyone experience with installing a rear view camera on the PCCM? We don’t get it detected by the PCCM. Any help?
Try a factory reset then set up again- it worked for me
Hi, could you tell me if in Carplay mode you get the song listing and/or navigation directions on the instrument cluster or does is permanently say APP or APP Navigation like the 996 model
So correct me if I'm wrong. It fits my 997.1 with Bose option. There is an specific adapter on the kit for that purpose. Thank you
This car had Bose.
Thank you for this video. I have installed through a Porsche specialist the new PCCM + on my 997.1 GT3 and it's amazing to enjoy Apple CarPlay on this car despite the fact that a camera is not possible to connect and function for an unknown reason.
Another issue more disturbing is the fact that the FM and DAB+ reception is very bad and sensible depending to the location of the car from one street to the next. or sometimes even within a few meters distance.
May be someone has a tip or solution that seems to appear frequently on some forum topics.
I would really appreciate some help.
You need to get a trigger wire on the plug (position 6)for the revering camera- after that is the same as fitting any reverse camera- Fakra to RCA and camera from Amazon - Need to do factory reset so it recognises the camera and then configure PCCM
@@michaelmctomney2555 Than you Michael ! I will check it with a Porsche dealer or a Porsche specialist asap.
Nice one. I was wondering if its possible to retrofit seat ventilation in the gen 1 997s
Start to end, how much time did IT take mate
Hello! Did you try to use 95B camera for pcm4? Might work...
Do you have news if anybody tried it?
@@lajerbalazs not yet...
Ok. If you will please let us know.
What happens with cars that have SportChrono?
This is a very good question. I will revert back to your comment with the answer as soon as I have it.
@Friends Green Porsche any update?
My chrono seems to function as intended
FYI, just received my 997 PCCM+ from local dealer. The package DOES NOT include the 2 signal amplifiers shown in your video (2 small white boxes)
It has done in the 30 units we’ve bought.
@@friendsgreenporsche5234 Thanks alot. Great video! What about the rear camera? Did you research any more on that?
Hi guys how much is it for you to supply and fit one (997.1) and how long do you need the car for?
Is it possible to install the PCCM + with an aftermarket amp? I noticed there are no RCA outs for an amp?
I have good products, with wireless Carplay,
So there is no RCA outputs available ? I would love to be able to connect it to an aftermarket amp and replace the oem Bose speakers with a high end aftermarket option
No extra aftermarket connectors on the back
Thanks so much for sharing! No dealer coding is require for this, correct?
Correct - you do need to run the config menu option on the new headend system software to discover your car version.
Nice looking unit🤩 Some stupid already outdated futures: no wireless CarPlay. USB A and not usb c, so need to use a dongle for modern iphone cables…😖 Why a not everything allready in the unit but on/in top bracket….. Still love the look!❤
Design probably finalized before these features introduced.
EDIT & CORRECTION: It apparently does have bluetooth. That is good news!
GPS software is now Q2/2021, which is a relief. I suppose with appleplay and google maps, it renders this somewhat obsolete, except when you're in areas where there is no phone reception (common in some areas of the USA). I actually used the mapping software this past fall to get me out of a traffic jam in a remote area of the US.
CD no longer in the unit as well. I still use the CD as it reads MP3 files from the CD and I can add 5-10 standard CDs to a single disk.
The video mentioned 1499 quid for the unit and install. I saw that the unit here in NA was $1479, installation extra. Doesn't seem to be a difficult install as the FM & GPS units in the columns may not be necessary...
Sam Toscano
The manual is on line it has bluetooth
@@michaelmctomney7568 Thanks for the clarification. Can you provide the link to the online manual? Really appreciate it.
Looks good !
Do you have to fit a DAB Antenna ?
I think that was one of the little box units installed in the A pillars.
It uses the integrated windscreen antenna for DAB. The new amps enable DAB from this antenna.
@@mikelewis5049 perfect thank you
This is amazing!! Is it available for 997.2 with Chrono package!
I have good products, with wireless Carplay, easier to install,
Hi FGP. Whats available for the 991.1 please? 2014 C4S . Love your content BTW.
I have good products, with wireless Carplay, easier to install, with 2 USB cables, you can put it where you want without restriction
Hi there.. My 997 has a stock disc changer in the glove box. Does anyone know if this new unit will still control or allow access to the cd deck in the glove box? Please let me know if you know.. Thanks
Apologies if already answered but a) does USB also allow iPhone charging concurrent with CarPlay connectivity? and b) Is the “deck” upgradable meaning as Apple updates CarPlay, so too will the unit will maintain compatibility. thnx p.s. -microphone is mounted inside steering wheel column (specifically under the near rectangular perforations on the black clamshell plastic cover). Why mount above??
A - yes B - not sure I understand your question. Mic - the mic on the new system does not seem to be compatible with the old mic, which is a shame.
@@mikelewis5049 Thank you! What I meant is that is the PCCM+ software upgradable? It must be running a specific version of the Android OS as well as application code(s). Apple releases new CarPlay code - Just looking to confirm that the PCCM+ will be capable of following along. The factory microphone is installed inside the steering column clamshell - you could also replace with the PCCM+ mic in addition to mounting above as you have.
Porsche still offering products for their older models. Just shows you how advanced they are.
Shows there is a healthy number of cars almost 20 years old on the road
Hey! For the cars equipped with the phone module, will it still work?
It is isolated with MOST loop, and goes on with the built-in bluetooth module.
It replaces the phone module, and actually works! For me it has been a huge improvement over the original factory fit phone system
Been waiting for this a long time but no reverse camera?!
Does this work for the 997.2 generation?
Kind of disappointed that they didn't get the OBC working on the 996 like they did here, taking a look through the documentation it looks like it was all in software...
Hopefully coming to the 987/997.2 soon
We have no info on when a variant for the second generation cars will be available. But, saying that, we also had next to no info on when this variant would be released. Porsche themselves seem to know very little about the unit. In fact, a lot of dealers seem to know very little about the 996 PCCM+, or how to fit it, and that unit has been out for over two years now!
@@friendsgreenporsche5234 Next year fingers crossed!
@@tom24057 fingers and toes crossed! But based on the 24+ month gap between the 996 and 997.1 variants being released, I’d anticipate it being at least this amount of time before the 997.2 unit is with us. Porsche, prove me wrong!
So the backup camera is designed only to work with Cayenne factory installed camera. Always a work around for the clever I guess. Great product though other than not designing it to work with after market cameras as well.
Defo works with an aftermarket camera - i fitted one from amazon
Has anyone been able to get the camera working?
Update: My auto shop was able to get the reverse camera working with my manual C2S.
@@ryantheallstar Can you please let us know more? Witch brand and type of camera? Witch port to connect?
@@ryantheallstar This is good news and first time I have seen this confirmed. Name of the auto shop?
Have an issue where I don't get any sound out of the speakers; did that happen for you guys? Everything is connected like it's supposed to... Baffled.
I’m having the same issue.
do you have one for 2008 ? carrera S ? Cabriolet
Do you have an instalation instruction manual?