Wow. Usually can tell whether you guys are hot, cold, or neutral on product but it’s pretty rare that the praise is this glaringly obvious. Ian was practically glowing talking about these. Never been a TM wedge guy but this test is going to get me over to my pro shop to hit a few. Great video, boys.
I love that they give us an option to customize/personalize these wedges along with just an amazing wedge. Picked up the 50,54, and 58 and customized with colors and emblems. Can't wait to get them in
Just got a set of 3. They're fantastic. I am very sweepy in my swing and for me the 7 bounce LBV was perfect (previously played a Cobra SB 4 bounce widelow). Just shows the value of a proper fit and the options for lots of different golfers.
Thanks for this great vid, I'm so hooked on your content and try to never miss a video. Wondered what they would be like and as I was debating on the new Cleveland RTX wedges I'm sure y'all sold me on the new MG4's
I have a very low bounce 60° in my bag. The bunkers at my home course are extremely firm making a SW (12° bounce) shot very difficult. The low bounce 60 makes it easier to get under the ball and not thin it into the next zip code. I am now very intrigued with these new TM wedges.
Great video. Loving my stealth 2 woods and hybrid. I am excited to try a 60 degree mg4. Taylormade on a roll lately. You guys are obviously digging it. Also considering callaway cb wedge but its only available in high bounce. I Will Probably take your advice and get a local wedge fitting this spring. Maybe irons as well. My irons are ping g710 with stock regular graphite shafts. Forgiving yes. Precision no. Ping glide 4.0 58 t6 with steel shaft. Forgiving yes. Precision on chips no. Vokey L grind sm6 bounce 4 58 degree steel shaft. Forgiveness no. Precision yes. Callaway sure out 64 degree steel shaft. Forgiveness and precision for me but not off tight lies. That sure out wedge is the only club in my bag that has secured its spot in the bag round after round. It just stinks on tight lies. Are graphite shafted wedges less precise? Cavity back wedges less precise? I want a 60 degree wedge that can i be precise on both chipping and full swing no matter the lie. Guessing mid bounce might be wise. Whichever wedge i end up with i think i will go with a white grip and a green colored shaft to match my green and white golf bag, golf shoes, car, house. Green eggs and ham
I had a set of TaylorMade XFT wedges that I loved. I replaced them with SM8s a couple years ago and the grinds on the Vokey's seem super aggressive. I had a 56/12 in the XFT that was super versatile. I went with a 54/10 S grind in the Vokey and I can't seem to hit anything but square face shots. Is there anything that's a versatile high bounce that's comparable to that XFT today?
I found that same thing with the MG3’s I played. First shots they spun like crazy. After very few uses all that BS milling or laser etching smoothed out and spun dropped wayyyyyyy off. I went back to playing Vokey’s. I won’t play TM wedges ever again because of it. I feel like they purposefully put the wedges out knowing all that BS will smooth out quickly and the club stops performing like when you bought it after very few shots. If you use them at a driving range they’ll be done even quicker with those rock balls
Thanks for the video! Those look very nice. Question though, any recommendations for a good wedge at a cheaper price point? I find it hard to justify over $200 on 3 wedges that I have to replace every couple years.
Just did the shootout at my local PGA SS with a ProV1. Full swing SM9 60/08M 12,900 revs. TM MG4 11,200 avg. But it's a nice wedge, for sure.. 50% shots the Vokey still took the spin crown by a few hundred.. The Irish Green paintfill is delicious, though, laddy. :). Come on, Ian!
I've seriously been considering a set of MG4 wedges, as they are beautiful and the reviews are excellent. What are your guys thoughts on the TW grinds for these? I like my wedges traditionally in the 11 is bounce range, just not sure on his grinds or the standard offering.
Curious how much the middle of the face will hold up after practice and course play, had the mg3 and the raised points between the lines wore very quickly..and compared to a vokey it was very hard
My favorite wedge grind of all time was the Tour Preferred 2014 ATV. Any of these offerings somewhat similar or would a Vokey V or M with more heel relief be closer?
I’ve had my hi-toe 2s for a few years now with the raw face. I haven’t noticed them wearing off when it comes to face “roughness”. They do chew up a ball cover though
I play on a course with lots of muddy lies around the greens. Apart from 7/8i chips, I like to use 58 for all around the green shots... what grind would you recommend to help me pitch in muddy lies?
Question: why are there so many club releases in the end or back half of the year & golf season? Wouldn’t manu’s want people to buy equipment for a fresh season? Just curious the business reason
I would guess it’s to keep the slow season busy. As we head into the fall and winter clubs are getting put away, so keeping the equipment fresh and new may allow for more consistent sales throughout the year. Just my thoughts.
Getting fit for some irons (hopefully p790’s) and definitely gonna get these as well I think as I have such bad gapping in my wedges currently! Super good review. P.s the green and white looks amazing!
Great review I’m in the process of buying new wedges after 10 years 🤦♂️so only just seen your great review Totally agree green and white is a no no as for your fellow Scotsmen the flag of st Andrew’s is blue and white 🏴 😂
I totally respect Ian and all his knowledge, however I disagree with all the low bounce chatter about how you need to be a very advanced player to use them. It is so dependent on your swing type. 12 degrees and up, doesn’t work for me at all. I need lower bounce wedges. 10 degrees is about the limit for me, unless I’m in some super soft sand. I’m extremely shallow with my irons and wedges. So there are definitely people that need low to mid bounce wedges that aren’t superstar wedges gamers. The vokey D grind is a death sentence for me and unfortunately I didn’t have an opportunity to test them on the course, so I relied on the wedge selector. I must have run it 100 times and the majority of the times it said 12D, so that’s what I bought. It’s pretty much worthless for me in every condition but super soft deep sand.
I'm currently playing MG3 at 58.11SB and absolutely love it. I'm very intrigued by the 58.09SBC, would it be worth the risk to go with the SBC? Or just stick with what I know and get some fresh grooves?
Actually they have a video on this question. Ian uses a Volkey 46 for his PW and they proved the specialized PW has more consistent spin, especially when wet, over a standard set PW.
They have a least one video in the archive on this, maybe more if I’m not mistaken. Pretty sure generally they prefer the set PW but it’s dependent on a few factors. For one, loft. If your irons are strong in loft it would be too large a gap to go to a specialty PW. I can’t think of any that are under 46* off the top of my head so 41* 9 iron would probably be the cutoff. Aside from that, it’s really only beneficial for players who use their PW around the green. Most of us use it as a full swing 10-iron so it wouldn’t make a ton of sense.
Please help me with the logic of transition from strong set PW of to specialty wedge for average golfers, when the set PW has a regular and lighter shaft and the specialty wedge is heavier and stiffer?
Yep great wedge, (and I do need to replace my aging Callaway X Jaws) BUT at $350 a wedge here in Australia, I’m afraid I will not even blink an eye at em. C’mon you major manufacturers, pull your head in and stop the price gouging.
@@zazhou have you used them?. Think I will source some good bargain zipcore from Cleveland on the second hand market. Most people don’t wear out their wedges anyway.
Can someone explain to me why the middle dots on the wedge (when Ian shows the close up) are so low? The center dots are well below the center if the grooves and they also don’t look like they are level.. Does anyone know why?
Can’t believe someone who knows so much about golf could know so little about football. I’m going to buy these wedges for the colours alone and I’m from East Kilbride 😂
Every time I look in a players bag and they have no bounce on their wedges I know it’s going to be a long day the closer we get to the greens. Bounce is there to help you . If the blade gets in the turf you have no chance. Bounce is there to help us when we run out of talent. The kids I looped for yesterday had a low bounce K and that might be the best wedges that title isn’t makes. I do love the high bounce v and the D grind as well. My current setup I’ve been in for two years. I hand ground it from a blank sole and I have it just how I want it but it’s time to go back in the hunt. I need to run Aaron D and bribe him to make me some one offs! 😂
I have friends that wouldn’t play these clubs if they were given to them free of charge just because of the green and white paint. (I’m not kidding ! I mark my golf ball with a green sharpie just to annoy them 😂)
Still no wedge fitting outside ? Kinda pointless review if youre going to keep doing them inside, especially when its summer and you have access to practice facilities.
Super happy with the channel dynamic lately. Mikey seems confident behind the camera and the back and forth conversation has been great
Have to agree with this…
Ian is an absolute pro in front of the camera and Mikey is now dialled in as well.
Wow. Usually can tell whether you guys are hot, cold, or neutral on product but it’s pretty rare that the praise is this glaringly obvious. Ian was practically glowing talking about these. Never been a TM wedge guy but this test is going to get me over to my pro shop to hit a few. Great video, boys.
I love that they give us an option to customize/personalize these wedges along with just an amazing wedge. Picked up the 50,54, and 58 and customized with colors and emblems. Can't wait to get them in
Just ordered a 50, 56 and 60. My dispersion was insanely good
Just got a set of 3. They're fantastic. I am very sweepy in my swing and for me the 7 bounce LBV was perfect (previously played a Cobra SB 4 bounce widelow). Just shows the value of a proper fit and the options for lots of different golfers.
That was a great little aside and value add from Ian on his 50 yard pitch technique. Much appreciated.
i love that Ian is stuck on paint fill. Always makes me crack up.
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Thanks for this great vid, I'm so hooked on your content and try to never miss a video. Wondered what they would be like and as I was debating on the new Cleveland RTX wedges I'm sure y'all sold me on the new MG4's
I have a very low bounce 60° in my bag. The bunkers at my home course are extremely firm making a SW (12° bounce) shot very difficult. The low bounce 60 makes it easier to get under the ball and not thin it into the next zip code.
I am now very intrigued with these new TM wedges.
I'd love to see a comparison of the spin retention from a wet face. Comparing the MG4s, Glides and vokeys would be awesome material 😊
Or a wet spin compare between these and my fav RTX6. Cleveland rocks!
RTX6 has the best spin in the wet. These may spend more in the soggy stuff.
Really enjoyed this video. You did a great job in verbalising the difference in feel for the 60 degree
Looks like Rory's feedback with the SM9 has paid off.
Great review!
I usually play a 60 with about 10* but flatten and add loft on the Mizuno T series. Hard pack coast conditions. $$$!
No wet wedge test with those new laser etchings between the grooves?! Was really looking forward to Ian with the spray bottle 😔😂
I actually love the green paint fill. Not traditional, but looks good to me.
They look verry nice. 10-12 degree of bounce is a must for 98% of us. Will they bring these out in full-face?
I love the white and green, suits us here in Dublin 😂
As a fellow Scotsman it’s embarrassing how hung up Ian is over some green and white paint 😂😂😂
But Ian does like all the different Rangers that TaylorMade has of this wedge...sorry I meant Ranges😊
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@@ianfrasergolf you love it really 😉😂
I love my mg3tw 60. Didnt realize i’d appreciate the extra bounce til i tried it!
Great video. Loving my stealth 2 woods and hybrid. I am excited to try a 60 degree mg4. Taylormade on a roll lately. You guys are obviously digging it. Also considering callaway cb wedge but its only available in high bounce. I Will Probably take your advice and get a local wedge fitting this spring. Maybe irons as well. My irons are ping g710 with stock regular graphite shafts. Forgiving yes. Precision no. Ping glide 4.0 58 t6 with steel shaft. Forgiving yes. Precision on chips no. Vokey L grind sm6 bounce 4 58 degree steel shaft. Forgiveness no. Precision yes. Callaway sure out 64 degree steel shaft. Forgiveness and precision for me but not off tight lies. That sure out wedge is the only club in my bag that has secured its spot in the bag round after round. It just stinks on tight lies. Are graphite shafted wedges less precise? Cavity back wedges less precise? I want a 60 degree wedge that can i be precise on both chipping and full swing no matter the lie. Guessing mid bounce might be wise. Whichever wedge i end up with i think i will go with a white grip and a green colored shaft to match my green and white golf bag, golf shoes, car, house. Green eggs and ham
I had a set of TaylorMade XFT wedges that I loved. I replaced them with SM8s a couple years ago and the grinds on the Vokey's seem super aggressive. I had a 56/12 in the XFT that was super versatile. I went with a 54/10 S grind in the Vokey and I can't seem to hit anything but square face shots. Is there anything that's a versatile high bounce that's comparable to that XFT today?
I found that same thing with the MG3’s I played. First shots they spun like crazy. After very few uses all that BS milling or laser etching smoothed out and spun dropped wayyyyyyy off. I went back to playing Vokey’s. I won’t play TM wedges ever again because of it. I feel like they purposefully put the wedges out knowing all that BS will smooth out quickly and the club stops performing like when you bought it after very few shots.
If you use them at a driving range they’ll be done even quicker with those rock balls
Thanks for the video! Those look very nice. Question though, any recommendations for a good wedge at a cheaper price point? I find it hard to justify over $200 on 3 wedges that I have to replace every couple years.
Just did the shootout at my local PGA SS with a ProV1. Full swing SM9 60/08M 12,900 revs. TM MG4 11,200 avg. But it's a nice wedge, for sure.. 50% shots the Vokey still took the spin crown by a few hundred.. The Irish Green paintfill is delicious, though, laddy. :). Come on, Ian!
I've seriously been considering a set of MG4 wedges, as they are beautiful and the reviews are excellent. What are your guys thoughts on the TW grinds for these? I like my wedges traditionally in the 11 is bounce range, just not sure on his grinds or the standard offering.
Curious how much the middle of the face will hold up after practice and course play, had the mg3 and the raised points between the lines wore very quickly..and compared to a vokey it was very hard
I man loyal to his club 😂 Blues brothers CFC x Rangers, am I right Ian?! Another class review. Cheers!!!
It’s insane to see how much difference bounce makes. Precision isn’t my strong suit. I think I’ve been going about it all wrong.
Interested to see the versatility/playability of the 60HB compared to the 60TW as I play inland and links golf?
I got these wedges in sb and i must say they are excellent 👌 😊
Any TM wedge that you would say is like the T grind? I love that in the vokey but love these new wedges!
My favorite wedge grind of all time was the Tour Preferred 2014 ATV. Any of these offerings somewhat similar or would a Vokey V or M with more heel relief be closer?
I've not followed the awesome team for a while. 😮 what happened to TXG, loved the name. Still love all you do guys
I really enjoyed the MG3 so looking forward to trying these out
How come the 50° only comes with the 9 bounce option and all other have multiple options?
Would you guys go more steel or Graphite shaft on these wedges? Do you get more distance and control from the bounce on the Graphite?
I’ve had my hi-toe 2s for a few years now with the raw face. I haven’t noticed them wearing off when it comes to face “roughness”. They do chew up a ball cover though
I play on a course with lots of muddy lies around the greens. Apart from 7/8i chips, I like to use 58 for all around the green shots... what grind would you recommend to help me pitch in muddy lies?
Have you guys noticed if the laser etching comes off rather fast? Saw it did in ricks vid out of the bunker
Boy, Ian went all out with LACC US Open gear this year.
Question: why are there so many club releases in the end or back half of the year & golf season? Wouldn’t manu’s want people to buy equipment for a fresh season? Just curious the business reason
I would guess it’s to keep the slow season busy. As we head into the fall and winter clubs are getting put away, so keeping the equipment fresh and new may allow for more consistent sales throughout the year. Just my thoughts.
I think people are also more hesitant to change in-season and would rather make a change in the off-season so they don’t potentially ruin their game.
I think both make sense. My other idea was holiday purchases
@@dronepocket325 Pretty sure they are used by the pros waaaay before they get released to the public.
I hit them a few weeks ago and man that milling on the face takes off materials. You’re going to kill a few golf balls with these new wedges. 😂
Great looking wedges!
So weird that there are still new wedges coming out without some sort of hydrophobicity technology
Bounce is the enemy at 60° have had an 04° since SM7
Getting fit for some irons (hopefully p790’s) and definitely gonna get these as well I think as I have such bad gapping in my wedges currently! Super good review.
P.s the green and white looks amazing!
Keep your mind open to the P770's, I have p790's and found that I wished I could work the ball just a little more, phenomenal clubs however.
Great review I’m in the process of buying new wedges after 10 years 🤦♂️so only just seen your great review Totally agree green and white is a no no as for your fellow Scotsmen the flag of st Andrew’s is blue and white 🏴 😂
Makes me wonder what the old diamond face purespin wedges would be like on the spin test
What is the most forgiving tour shaped wedge? Not including cavity back wedge like cbx
Ian changing wedges, everybody drink!
Do theses spin more in the wet compared to the king of wet spin the RTX6?
Just ordered a Wedge Works Vokey with a bunch of green and white 😂
Hey TaylorMade, when you make a wedge that doesn’t rust, sign me up.
Would love to know the durability of these
Have they done the outside test yet?
I totally respect Ian and all his knowledge, however I disagree with all the low bounce chatter about how you need to be a very advanced player to use them. It is so dependent on your swing type. 12 degrees and up, doesn’t work for me at all. I need lower bounce wedges. 10 degrees is about the limit for me, unless I’m in some super soft sand. I’m extremely shallow with my irons and wedges. So there are definitely people that need low to mid bounce wedges that aren’t superstar wedges gamers. The vokey D grind is a death sentence for me and unfortunately I didn’t have an opportunity to test them on the course, so I relied on the wedge selector. I must have run it 100 times and the majority of the times it said 12D, so that’s what I bought. It’s pretty much worthless for me in every condition but super soft deep sand.
I'm currently playing MG3 at 58.11SB and absolutely love it. I'm very intrigued by the 58.09SBC, would it be worth the risk to go with the SBC? Or just stick with what I know and get some fresh grooves?
Ian been to the tanning salon? keep up the good work boys!
Would love to see a wet test
Not sure if possible but could you consider reviewing Tour Edge EXS ?
Wish the black was still a standard option like last year
How often do you replace a clients “set PW” with a custom lofted wedge (i.e. vokey, TM, etc)?
Not often. They’ve said they prefer set models for clubs that players primarily take full swings with
Actually they have a video on this question. Ian uses a Volkey 46 for his PW and they proved the specialized PW has more consistent spin, especially when wet, over a standard set PW.
They have a least one video in the archive on this, maybe more if I’m not mistaken. Pretty sure generally they prefer the set PW but it’s dependent on a few factors. For one, loft. If your irons are strong in loft it would be too large a gap to go to a specialty PW. I can’t think of any that are under 46* off the top of my head so 41* 9 iron would probably be the cutoff. Aside from that, it’s really only beneficial for players who use their PW around the green. Most of us use it as a full swing 10-iron so it wouldn’t make a ton of sense.
Please help me with the logic of transition from strong set PW of to specialty wedge for average golfers, when the set PW has a regular and lighter shaft and the specialty wedge is heavier and stiffer?
Yep great wedge, (and I do need to replace my aging Callaway X Jaws) BUT at $350 a wedge here in Australia, I’m afraid I will not even blink an eye at em. C’mon you major manufacturers, pull your head in and stop the price gouging.
Yep, excellent Kirkland wedges at one fourth the price!
@@zazhou have you used them?.
Think I will source some good bargain zipcore from Cleveland on the second hand market. Most people don’t wear out their wedges anyway.
@@barracatcher6466 yes, I purchased them when I was in north America last year
Would love to see this compared to the glide 4
When are they gonna make the TW grind in lefty?
What shaft were you using here? Modus?
What does that roughness of the wedge face do to the cover of the ball from a durability standpoint?
We test that in the video and address it at least twice.
When do the Vokey SM 10 come out?
Do you guys keep it pretty cool in the bay? Lookin like it’s winter! 😂
Can someone explain to me why the middle dots on the wedge (when Ian shows the close up) are so low? The center dots are well below the center if the grooves and they also don’t look like they are level.. Does anyone know why?
How did this wedge do with water on the ball?
What shaft is being used on the club ?
Can’t believe someone who knows so much about golf could know so little about football. I’m going to buy these wedges for the colours alone and I’m from East Kilbride 😂
Come on Ian, allow a little green in your life haha! Mikey, you got the new Celtic top yet?
Every time I look in a players bag and they have no bounce on their wedges I know it’s going to be a long day the closer we get to the greens. Bounce is there to help you . If the blade gets in the turf you have no chance. Bounce is there to help us when we run out of talent. The kids I looped for yesterday had a low bounce K and that might be the best wedges that title isn’t makes. I do love the high bounce v and the D grind as well. My current setup I’ve been in for two years. I hand ground it from a blank sole and I have it just how I want it but it’s time to go back in the hunt. I need to run Aaron D and bribe him to make me some one offs! 😂
I hate how I can’t tell if it’s TXG or Club Champion
I agree, I dislike Club Champion but like watching Ian and TXG. Its a shame its merged
What's wrong with the green white paint?
What happened to the outdoor testing?
Bit annoyed as a lefty - no all raw custom option and no high bounce (non W) grind??? 😢
Was hoping to see Ian get out the wee spritzer bottle
Get some no bake cerekote and fill in the letters with whatever color fits your fancy.
Ian are they coming out with a 58° V? Weaken it maybe to get that bounce up?
Bounce numbers on v-grinds always lower because of the narrow sole. But initial bounce is usually pretty higher
I like the green and white 🤷♂️ lol
Hope these aren’t as big and with less offset compared to MG3.
You are professional club builders and you are worried about paint color?
little said that yall are not txg anymore
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I have friends that wouldn’t play these clubs if they were given to them free of charge just because of the green and white paint. (I’m not kidding ! I mark my golf ball with a green sharpie just to annoy them 😂)
Cleveland has been doing laser etching for 10 years 😂
Hi-Toes all day long!
mg3 were golfs spy most wanted wedge
Ian is 100% right about the paint fill 🤮
PAINT COLOR STAYS
I live in Augusta, so
White and Green = Bad. Yellow and Green = YES!
Still no wedge fitting outside ? Kinda pointless review if youre going to keep doing them inside, especially when its summer and you have access to practice facilities.
My MG3s destroy balls and still do after almost a year. And I hit a lot of balls
Got fit for the MG4s today, these clubs destroyed my prov1s lmao
Ian’s ASMR channel coming soon😂
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Sorry Ian, Ireland takes the win this year!