You left the magazine out of the PX4 Storm when you weighed it, but both the Glock & SIG had their mags in. I love the PX4, but it is somewhat heavier.
Have had the 40 cal full for10years&the9mmsub compact for the same time bought them together LOVE both this guns. Recently I got thinking about the 9 compact and said if I come across one and the price was right I would by it. Sure enough I was in my LGS and they had one in the case!!!!! It was used but never FIRED. When I totally inspected it still the oil on it. Mags never had any ammo in them. The guy bought it but in his safe and never FIRED IT. He traded it for a hunting. I bought it for 369.00 out the door.thanks HAM& EGGER
I think they're very underrated. Only change I did sort of night sights (Only because I can't find ones for full size or else I'm not reading things right) is a hogue grip since the normal grip is slippery if your hands are wet or sweaty
I think you can add a third level of saferty by getting the lower profile thumb safety wings, available online from Beretta. They are less prone to snag. IIRC they were part of the pistol's original design, but a government contract called for more a more prominent thumb safety. I think Langton Tactical has mods to lighten up both DA and SA. That is not my preference for both safety and reliable ignition reasons, but obviously Langton knows what he is doing in terms of preserving reliability. However this is NATO approved/ qualified in stock condition and my preference would be completely stock except sights. Is yours modded? The trigger pulls are both very light. While a double action style long and firm trigger pull adds a lot of safety, imho, during range practice and everyday handling, imho only a snug holster that prevents fingers, shirt tails, and debris (keys? Chapstick?) from entering the trigger guard gives me real peace of mind. Military and police need no impediments shooting, it makes nervous when civilians are a no safety, light and short, striker pull away from bang. Beretta offers an alternate spring on its website for high volume +P, +P+, NATO, M882, and M1152 spec ammo. That's a nice touch and only $22. Steel rod too. No warrant breach, Beretta part! Finally, I know that there are Beretta parts to convert from F condition to G, so my preference is to try F first (decocker and safety) and move to G if I forget to flip the safety off too often.
Excellent points here. Especially regarding the personal preference of some folks. Beautiful pistol. I found one of these for sale used for $399 with 2 mags the other day.
I just bought one. Very accurate. Shoots because of the barrel like a .380 in terms of recoil. Kinda heavy but I would recommend this gun to anyone looking for a FS gun. I wanted a safer gun, and this fills that need as well.
Great review!!! I've been looking at this pistol for a while. Very confusing with the different types/models out there,. You are the only one that I have found that explained the difference between the type F & G, and how the de-cocker/safety works. Thank you!!!!
I own one in 9mm and one in .40 s&w. I don’t really like these guns. I like the look of it but it’s heavy, big, thick and hard to conceal ant not all that enjoyable to shoot. I don’t feel safe carrying this pistol “cocked and locked”. I’d much rather carry my CZ p09
How did you carry it Cocked and locked. When you use the safety/ decocker it's not cocked. You can only carry decocked/safe or cocked and unlocked. Did you mod it somehow ?
I have both the full size and the compact (not the sub-compact). I bought another full-size for my son-in-law. I liked the double-single action, but hated the safety. It takes 10 to 20 minutes to convert the gun to decock only. You just have to have some punches and look at some how-to videos. The decock gives you the heavy first pull, which should take care of the accidental trigger pull that you get from light single=action guns.
love my px4. I enjoy the fact that most people don't know what this gun is, but the other side of that is the aftermarket is poor. One thing I didn't like about the storm are the grips, but some talon grips fixed that issue
0:30 PX4 is actually a polymer-framed alternative to the 8000 Cougar series, not the 92 series. It's literally a Cougar with plastic frame, and simplified take down controls (i.e., Glock style). 4:56 There are actually THREE different sizes of PX4: Full, Compact, and Subcompact. The only thing different for the subcompact model is that it's too small for the rotating barrel system to work, so Beretta uses the common tilt barrel setup :) I've never felt or confirmed this gun has any perceivable reduction in the felt recoil or muzzle rise/flip, compared to my other similar full size 9mm such as Glock, FN Hi Power, Colt 1911, and Rugers and CZs that I no longer have. The only confirmed observation is the slide retraction force (recoil spring tention) is noticeably less that all my other 9mm full size. To me the slide is just a little easier to rack, to my wife it's significant, to the point she didn't need to try a second time to confirm PX4 is the lightest or easiest to chamber a round :)
The PX4 Storm Comact (F type, cocker/de-cocker) is my everyday carry. I would prefer full size, but it is approximately 1 inch longer than the compact. Reasons I like the PX4 compact; 1) double/single action (very safe) and 2) very manageable recoil. The full size has a 4 inch barrel which makes it a bit more accurate than the 3.2 inch compact barrel. If my PX4 storm compact starts getting old and worn I will buy another one!
I’ve shot the PX4 Storm again this year (last time was around my mid 20s and 34 y/o now). All I can say is that I should’ve held it better back then. Now I’m VERY ACCURATE with this. Only thing I still don’t like about this is the long DA trigger pull and the wide grip, taking me extra time to fix my grip (at least my hands are big to the point it really isn’t difficult to grasp). I love the look of this and this is why I chose to rent it in my mid 20s.
Just picked this up with a Wilson combat #12 spring. I canceled my order for the Px4 with the safety, initially i did not think it would be a problem but the design of that safety could cause you to inadvertently prevent you from firing. There is no way this gun can fire unless you intend to fire it in DA. You could drop it, throw it shake the trigger around in your hand and it wont go off. I found the "G" in the CA model and that is declocker only. The F model is the one i canceled and the one in this video. Single action for sure needs a additional safety but on a DA gun like this? That gun is not firing unless you intend to fire it. I never liked the whole idea of the safety to be honest, i think it gives people a false sense of security most of the time and you get those people "Don't worry the safety is on" when the safety was actually in the live fire position. If you take the Safety out of that equation and no long think about it, you just simply know your gun will fire if that trigger is pulled but with the DA it has to be deliberate. of course you have to be more vigilant about securing/storing it but again that would apply with a gun that had a safety anyway.
The tall sights are for co-witnessing with a red dot. S&W geared this for optic use which is why the didn't release a version without the an optics cut. S&W is known for having different models of the same thing. I would've did themselves well by release a non optics version with standard hight sights.
I have owned all 3 guns on the table and will flat out tell you the Px4 is the best polymer framed striker fired gun on the market by far. In my opinion that is. Especially with a trigger upgrade.
@@trooperrogue9732 Just bought my PX4 Full and ordered a Wilson combat #12 hammer spring to go with it. You can go one lower but more risk of failure to cycle properly. Oddly enough the LTT spring they sell as a 11lb pull is identical to the price of the #12 Wilson combat spring when you factor in shipping.
Glad to hear the emphasis on safety. I have one additional safety concern. I think it is advantageous to be able to rack the slide - to chamber a round OR de-chamber - while the safety is "on", to eliminate any risk of a "fumble and grab" (finger slides into guard and instinctivel grabs tight). Does the Storm allow operation of the slide while the trigger is disconnected?
Plus they are made in Italy. I have a compact one, yes it is very heavy in double action and I have some problems with my elbow and shoulder, my wife and I went to the range with my 92x shooting that actually helped me less pain.
had one, traded for a better gun, yeah, it's a Beretta, and yea it's novel. this gun has a learning curve, a.k.a. it's not intuitive to pick-up and shoot. High bore axis which starts to eat away at that softer recoil. agree on accuracy and softer recoil, if you can keep a good purchase.
My PX4 is one of the most accurate, easiest shooting DA/SA pistols I own. It equals or out performs my Sig P 226, HK USP compact, and others. One thing that no one has satisfactorily justified to me is that all of my others in this format can be carried and fired from the decocked position, while Beretta clearly states the PX4 is not to be carried decocked. They all decock short of the hammer being fully forward. Is there something different about the Beretta action or is Beretta hyper sensitive to liability issues or what? What is the reason for the difference?
Lol 4 lbs it takes to pull a defense trigger lol I'm more than comfortable carrying a round in chamber I carry glocks and I'm really comfortable with them .
I carry the full size PX4 Storm , type F, .40 cal. The only problem I ever had was I busted the plastic recoil spring rod after about 200 rounds at the range one day. Replaced it with a metal rod from Beretta. Shoots even better now.
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the Beretta Px4 storm is my EDC For 3+ years , I love This Pistol !!
For Sure. What holster do you reccomend & which ammo should I avoid using with it?
What holster works well with the PX 4?
@@ChaosWolfNinja I carry concealed Inside The Waistband (IWB)
@@stewbez Thanks!
What a great pistol , my eye is on this one for ccw
Very difficult to find
You left the magazine out of the PX4 Storm when you weighed it, but both the Glock & SIG had their mags in. I love the PX4, but it is somewhat heavier.
Have had the 40 cal full for10years&the9mmsub compact for the same time bought them together LOVE both this guns. Recently I got thinking about the 9 compact and said if I come across one and the price was right I would by it. Sure enough I was in my LGS and they had one in the case!!!!! It was used but never FIRED. When I totally inspected it still the oil on it. Mags never had any ammo in them. The guy bought it but in his safe and never FIRED IT. He traded it for a hunting. I bought it for 369.00 out the door.thanks HAM& EGGER
one of the best , if not the best review about the Beretta PX4 Storm! Bravo
I think they're very underrated. Only change I did sort of night sights (Only because I can't find ones for full size or else I'm not reading things right) is a hogue grip since the normal grip is slippery if your hands are wet or sweaty
A PX4cc was my first EDC and remains my favorite handgun of all time.
I think you can add a third level of saferty by getting the lower profile thumb safety wings, available online from Beretta. They are less prone to snag. IIRC they were part of the pistol's original design, but a government contract called for more a more prominent thumb safety.
I think Langton Tactical has mods to lighten up both DA and SA. That is not my preference for both safety and reliable ignition reasons, but obviously Langton knows what he is doing in terms of preserving reliability. However this is NATO approved/ qualified in stock condition and my preference would be completely stock except sights. Is yours modded? The trigger pulls are both very light.
While a double action style long and firm trigger pull adds a lot of safety, imho, during range practice and everyday handling, imho only a snug holster that prevents fingers, shirt tails, and debris (keys? Chapstick?) from entering the trigger guard gives me real peace of mind. Military and police need no impediments shooting, it makes nervous when civilians are a no safety, light and short, striker pull away from bang.
Beretta offers an alternate spring on its website for high volume +P, +P+, NATO, M882, and M1152 spec ammo. That's a nice touch and only $22. Steel rod too. No warrant breach, Beretta part!
Finally, I know that there are Beretta parts to convert from F condition to G, so my preference is to try F first (decocker and safety) and move to G if I forget to flip the safety off too often.
I have had this pistol for the past 5 years and it has never malfunctioned
Excellent points here. Especially regarding the personal preference of some folks. Beautiful pistol. I found one of these for sale used for $399 with 2 mags the other day.
I would’ve grabbed that in a heartbeat
That was a good day 😊
I just bought one. Very accurate. Shoots because of the barrel like a .380 in terms of recoil. Kinda heavy but I would recommend this gun to anyone looking for a FS gun. I wanted a safer gun, and this fills that need as well.
Great review!!! I've been looking at this pistol for a while. Very confusing with the different types/models out there,. You are the only one that I have found that explained the difference between the type F & G, and how the de-cocker/safety works. Thank you!!!!
I own one in 9mm and one in .40 s&w. I don’t really like these guns. I like the look of it but it’s heavy, big, thick and hard to conceal ant not all that enjoyable to shoot. I don’t feel safe carrying this pistol “cocked and locked”. I’d much rather carry my CZ p09
you cant carry this cocked and locked Goober.
How did you carry it Cocked and locked. When you use the safety/ decocker it's not cocked. You can only carry decocked/safe or cocked and unlocked. Did you mod it somehow ?
I believe Ernest Langdon of Langdon Tactical, personal EDC is the Beretta PX4 storm. I have never held one or tried it out, heard it is fantastic.
He carries the compact, not the full size.
I have both the full size and the compact (not the sub-compact). I bought another full-size for my son-in-law. I liked the double-single action, but hated the safety. It takes 10 to 20 minutes to convert the gun to decock only. You just have to have some punches and look at some how-to videos. The decock gives you the heavy first pull, which should take care of the accidental trigger pull that you get from light single=action guns.
So bad to make a gun less safe 😂
@@Lost.inohio it does not make it less safe dummy
Arizona here as well. I have the compact carry model and sent it off to be milled for an optic. Looking forward to getting it back.
I picked up a compact last year, one of my favorites, rebates offered on them now
Good review!
Beautiful gun and a great review!
love my px4. I enjoy the fact that most people don't know what this gun is, but the other side of that is the aftermarket is poor. One thing I didn't like about the storm are the grips, but some talon grips fixed that issue
Either it is a Compact , or
It is a Full Size ,
but it can't be both
Can’t believe the misinformation on these comments.
Where I can get steel spring if I want to change the old one where I can get lazer or red dot sight for it who I can youse red dot sight on it .
Great video, very thorough!
GREAT handgun, just got mine from Turners here in CA. (9mm). 300 bucks after Mail in Rebate. NOT BAD AT ALL. Fathers day special.
0:30 PX4 is actually a polymer-framed alternative to the 8000 Cougar series, not the 92 series. It's literally a Cougar with plastic frame, and simplified take down controls (i.e., Glock style).
4:56 There are actually THREE different sizes of PX4: Full, Compact, and Subcompact. The only thing different for the subcompact model is that it's too small for the rotating barrel system to work, so Beretta uses the common tilt barrel setup :)
I've never felt or confirmed this gun has any perceivable reduction in the felt recoil or muzzle rise/flip, compared to my other similar full size 9mm such as Glock, FN Hi Power, Colt 1911, and Rugers and CZs that I no longer have. The only confirmed observation is the slide retraction force (recoil spring tention) is noticeably less that all my other 9mm full size. To me the slide is just a little easier to rack, to my wife it's significant, to the point she didn't need to try a second time to confirm PX4 is the lightest or easiest to chamber a round :)
I just order the "full size" one. I hope it's comfortable to carry
I edc the full size easily
Great review on a great gun
The PX4 Storm Comact (F type, cocker/de-cocker) is my everyday carry. I would prefer full size, but it is approximately 1 inch longer than the compact. Reasons I like the PX4 compact; 1) double/single action (very safe) and 2) very manageable recoil. The full size has a 4 inch barrel which makes it a bit more accurate than the 3.2 inch compact barrel. If my PX4 storm compact starts getting old and worn I will buy another one!
I’ve shot the PX4 Storm again this year (last time was around my mid 20s and 34 y/o now). All I can say is that I should’ve held it better back then. Now I’m VERY ACCURATE with this. Only thing I still don’t like about this is the long DA trigger pull and the wide grip, taking me extra time to fix my grip (at least my hands are big to the point it really isn’t difficult to grasp). I love the look of this and this is why I chose to rent it in my mid 20s.
Great video!
Just picked this up with a Wilson combat #12 spring. I canceled my order for the Px4 with the safety, initially i did not think it would be a problem but the design of that safety could cause you to inadvertently prevent you from firing. There is no way this gun can fire unless you intend to fire it in DA. You could drop it, throw it shake the trigger around in your hand and it wont go off. I found the "G" in the CA model and that is declocker only. The F model is the one i canceled and the one in this video.
Single action for sure needs a additional safety but on a DA gun like this? That gun is not firing unless you intend to fire it. I never liked the whole idea of the safety to be honest, i think it gives people a false sense of security most of the time and you get those people "Don't worry the safety is on" when the safety was actually in the live fire position. If you take the Safety out of that equation and no long think about it, you just simply know your gun will fire if that trigger is pulled but with the DA it has to be deliberate.
of course you have to be more vigilant about securing/storing it but again that would apply with a gun that had a safety anyway.
Love mine. Only complaint is finding a holster that accepts a wml. That and changing the sights.
The tall sights are for co-witnessing with a red dot. S&W geared this for optic use which is why the didn't release a version without the an optics cut. S&W is known for having different models of the same thing. I would've did themselves well by release a non optics version with standard hight sights.
I have owned all 3 guns on the table and will flat out tell you the Px4 is the best polymer framed striker fired gun on the market by far.
In my opinion that is.
Especially with a trigger upgrade.
...It's a hammer fired Pistol.
But I MUST AGREE with you, An EXCELLENT Pistol. NO doubt. Btw, Which Trigger for upgrade Beretta ?
Thank you.
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I have no idea why I said striker fired.
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Langdon Tactical
@@trooperrogue9732 Just bought my PX4 Full and ordered a Wilson combat #12 hammer spring to go with it. You can go one lower but more risk of failure to cycle properly. Oddly enough the LTT spring they sell as a 11lb pull is identical to the price of the #12 Wilson combat spring when you factor in shipping.
The type D and C are striker fired.
You had clips in the other two!!! So they will weight more lol
Glad to hear the emphasis on safety. I have one additional safety concern. I think it is advantageous to be able to rack the slide - to chamber a round OR de-chamber - while the safety is "on", to eliminate any risk of a "fumble and grab" (finger slides into guard and instinctivel grabs tight). Does the Storm allow operation of the slide while the trigger is disconnected?
Yes
Plus they are made in Italy. I have a compact one, yes it is very heavy in double action and I have some problems with my elbow and shoulder, my wife and I went to the range with my 92x shooting that actually helped me less pain.
Put an LTT optimized trigger bar and #11 spring
@@HuyLe-vo4pg unfortunately I'm not handy like that.
@@andrewbrumagen3479 it’s super easy man, (at least the hammer spring is the easiest part)
had one, traded for a better gun, yeah, it's a Beretta, and yea it's novel.
this gun has a learning curve, a.k.a. it's not intuitive to pick-up and shoot.
High bore axis which starts to eat away at that softer recoil.
agree on accuracy and softer recoil, if you can keep a good purchase.
I've not found the higher bore axis to affect my accuracy.
My PX4 is one of the most accurate, easiest shooting DA/SA pistols I own. It equals or out performs my Sig P 226, HK USP compact, and others. One thing that no one has satisfactorily justified to me is that all of my others in this format can be carried and fired from the decocked position, while Beretta clearly states the PX4 is not to be carried decocked. They all decock short of the hammer being fully forward. Is there something different about the Beretta action or is Beretta hyper sensitive to liability issues or what? What is the reason for the difference?
Lol 4 lbs it takes to pull a defense trigger lol I'm more than comfortable carrying a round in chamber I carry glocks and I'm really comfortable with them .
good to know. 😂
For 3 years I owned a Px4 Storm. Never again!
And I would *never* recommend it to a senior…which I am.
You glossed over major drawbacks.
Feel free to list your drawbacks here...
Please do describe your dislikes for the PX4. I am 69 years old and carry the PX4 full size with no issues in fit, function, or accuracy.
Ditto. Please add to the conversation. The only obvious shortcoming is that it simply isn't a 20 ounce micro nine with reduced resistance cocking.
what are the 'major drawbacks' in your opinion? Your comment doesnt tell us anything except you personally dont like it.
I carry the full size PX4 Storm , type F, .40 cal. The only problem I ever had was I busted the plastic recoil spring rod after about 200 rounds at the range one day. Replaced it with a metal rod from Beretta. Shoots even better now.