What Is Hamas Thinking Now? Journalist on Rare Interview w/ Top Hamas Leaders | Amanpour and Company
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- Опубликовано: 16 апр 2024
- Ceasefire negotiations in Cairo between Israel and Hamas have reached a delicate phase, according to mediator Qatar. Six months after Hamas launched a brutal terror attack on October 7th, murdering well over a thousand Israelis -- and still holding more than 100 hostages -- it is unclear what the next move might be. Akbar Shahid Ahmed, HuffPost Senior Diplomatic Correspondent, has interviewed two of Hamas’ leaders. He joins the show.
Originally aired on April 17, 2024
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Take everything with a grain of salt. They knew they are talking to western journalist…
so they're all liars always and nothing can ever be trusted. do you see how that makes any good will interaction impossible?
they HAVE goals AND beliefs. that's for sure i guess. can we believe those?
Take everything the west says with a grain of salt.
@@user-gi7vs2rp2q yes it means HAT 🤠 in Arabic. So yes hats were popular in the West in the late 19 and early 20th centuries.
I think this was a terrific episode, and Ahmed did a great job explaining a complex and difficult subject. 18:34
Thanks for tuning in.
wow how cool that you all participate in chats! Love tha team!
@@AmanpourandCompanythis was a horribly biased and uninformed interview.
@6:54 a musical festival is a military target she asks while being unable to understand this statement. I want her to have same emotion when hospitals, bakeries are being bombed in Gaza. Are these military targets???????
There was no military fighting from the festival, loser.
They are, by the definition of international laws, the moment you used worship places and hospitals as military bases they lost their protected status. Also hamas combatant:civilian ratio in this war is 1:1. Pretty dope I think
@@annakortukov2845 Evidence has to be put forward. Otherwise, this law will become a joke and after bombing statement will be released by every country saying following hospital, church, mosque, school was used as military camp. Your inside speaks when you use the word "DOBE" for human casualty. May this cycle of madness end. Almighty protect us for we human beings have lost it.
Tell your Hamas not to use them.
Hamas is an horrific terrorist organization. The acts of 10/07 are barbaric. I feel terrible about the Gazan civilian deaths....but Hamas knew what the Israeli response would be against the population and still invaded Israel and slaughtered Israeli civilians. In any case, this is a fascinating interview and I learned a lot. Thanks for posting this.
They’re claiming that around 50% of the casualties are children. The only way this could possibly be true is if Hamas is deliberately using children as human shields.
And Israel knows the law considering ilegal occupation . The occupied have the legal right to defend themselves by any means . The occupier has no rights . Not my opinion . Written in the UN International kaw .
@@annfrancis6287 You meant "The OCCUPIED has the legal right to defend themselves by any means"? That would make more sense. And a great quote by the way. Thank you. It makes a LOT of sense.
@@SandyCheeks63564 Thanks for highlighting my written mistake and your kind manner in doing so .I have edited and made the correction. Law and facts will always stand 😊
I feel terrible about Oct 7 but the IDF is horrific beyond words. one day / 75 Years; 1200 dead / 34,000 and counting; [no comparison] / manmade famine; and on and on
How many tough questions are you asking Israel?
its surpring they both don't know the festival was suppose to end 10-6. at the last minute they asked for another day and the IDF approved it. that's where the chaos came in. the festival was suppose tp be finished
So?
Oh yeah that totally justifies it. Yeah. I'm sold. It was just a timing issue and wow some Hamas heads will roll for not communicating back about the extra scheduling. Hamas must have though the concert and music was some new weapon and the soldiers were moving weirdly is some new form of krav maga. Totally get it.
That's your justification for what Hamas did to them? How diabolical.
8:36
"It's worth it ?!" ..... Michelle Martin is unprepared for this line of questioning.
Because that is the Islamic way of brainwashing that many westerners can’t understand. Me as an ex Muslim who was born inside that shit understand it very well. Islam teaches you to sacrifice your whole family and yourself for Allah and this is what these people believe in and also this is what makes them dangerous because in that belief system this life has no value.
Nelson Mandela was declared terrorist for decades by Apartheid State
He was a terrorist
By all means he was a terrorist
Giving South Africa as a positive example on anything considering the current state of affairs there is very silly
@@dave23720you miss the point....the government at that time were the true terrorists...hence the comparison can be valid ..
My understanding is that by his own admission, he was a violent terrorist. In his early days.
So Israel’s middle strikes on playgrounds and bombings of refugee camps & hospitals are not acts of terrorism? The lack of context and willful blindness here is beyond belief.
Israel is fighting a war with Hamas. Not with the buildings holding them
The willful blindness of the pro-terrorist people here is astounding. People like you are willing to justify these atrocities.
Truly. It's like we're outside a bubble and those in charge inside the bubble don't give a damn about what Palestinians have endured for decades. And we can't get to tho
@@user-hq5hs7bt2c Are you truly outside a bubble though? What are you pretending not to know?
Under international law if those places are being used for military equipment or personnel they are legal targets. It is on the israelis though to prove they had military equipment or fighters
Americans don’t have any experience of occupation. It’s hard for them to understand Hamas’s mindset. Talk to some historians from India about their experience of British occupation.
You're absolutely right: Mahatma Gandhi was a bigger terorist than Hamas
Gaza was not occupied.
@@barbarakotton4134 How could Israelis impose starvation on Palestinians if there isn't an occupation? Why can’t Russia not able to starve Ukrainians ?
How can Hamas abduct and torture civilians. Many so called poor gazans were complicit
Slaves and the 1st nation people in America understand oppression, so not all.
Akbar is an ideal guest for your program. Michelle correctly pointed out that few people really KNOW much about Hamas. This gentleman is warm, easygoing, understanding of the grief on both sides, & voices the Palestinian yearning for their own homeland. And, in time, I believe,lasting peace, real democracy, equity in finance, health care, respect, opportunity. Eventually, this war will end. Will the liberal groundswell in Israel edge out the extreme right in the Knesset, & integrate & welcome their Arab neighbors in the Promised Land? Or must Armageddon vanquish a third of Earth's number just before Christ's return ?
It's not that it's been merely "classified" as an organization; it IS a terrorist organization.
Thank you very much for this clip. Was insightful
Why are harmless comments getting deleted?
because you mentioned isrHell probably
@@MyLinda1983 No.
@@samnous2002harmless? I’ve seen some of your comments. You’re not posting hummus recipes. 🤡
.. or Satanyahu maybe?
@@roystonboodoo7525 No.
Hamas leaders have long said they're willing to negotiate based on 1967 borders, and this is in their 2017 charter. This isn't some new ruse to sound pragmatic after 10/7. An organization wouldn't last for nearly 40 years if it weren't pragmatic.
Can I ask why your 'resistance' fighters slaughtered 59 Thai citizens and kidnapped others, also murdered Filipinos, Africans, Bedouins, Israeli Arabs…was it 'pragmatic'? saying it's now not about 'Jews' but only zionists, how can Israelis trust that post Oct 7.
on your last point you are wrong. And the original charter is still in effect; the rest is performative. Just LISTEN to the leaders as they appear on Arab TV or in other media. They will not rest until Israel is obliterated. They promise as many more October 7ths "as it takes". Jews do not belong in or on Arab land. They have not given up their violent delusion of a sharia caliphate in the Middle East and the world. A Palestinian state would prevent that; they care nothing for the lives and welfare of Palestinians. They welcome the martyrdom, and hope for more. I hope you look at many sources for your information. But I actually LISTEN to the leaders themselves. (Did you know that Hamas leaders are billionaires, living in Qatar and elsewhere on money stolen form the billions sent in international aid to Gaza? And that they are the head of an international crime syndicate. Again, you can find this out for yourself.
They are as pragmatic as the Nazis or ISIS
They have "lasted" as ;long as they have because they are proxies for Iran. Their original charter is what the leaders spout on Arab TV and other media.
@@danielquartler1527but you have to agree that 2 of the greatest terrorist states are the US and Israel. And both have lost world support.
Thank you for this piece and your work.
Thank you
The biggest problem is to discuss with an occupying power. An occupying power has a duty to leave all occupied territories and to respect international law.
Israel is responsible for 76 years of oppression. Palestinians have the right to freedom and self-determination.
Why didn't they ask for self-determination when Egypt and Jordan occupied them from 1948-67? and instead accepted Jordanian citizenship.
@@contact594and you know they didn’t how? Were you there?
@@justalurker5412 were you? did you watch even? or will that bother your narrative...they looked a LOT better than the ones captured by Russia.
@@justalurker5412 If they did, there's no mention or recognition of it. AND if they didn't, what does that say about the drive for statehood.
Excellent interview.
The resistance is a resistance, weather you like it or not. Treat them as humans just like your self , the there will be peace. The resistance are very educated and very capable just like any other people in this world
I think you should go talk to them about making peace with the Jewish people. Let us know how that goes.
There is no negotiating with Hamas, Islamic Jihadists and Hezbollah ! Who continue to call for the destruction of Israel 🇮🇱 ( God forbid ) they have failed the Palestinian people horribly !
@@pennyadrian7774🤡 get new material. This is lame.
@justalurker54N12. The only lame thing is not understanding the aim of the gazan and West Bank resident. Their religion, not fact underpins their political views thus the very existence of Jews is anathema to them.
@@jonye7511 big lie, zionism is a cult anyway, dont believe in religion,.dont believe in God but say God promise them a land, . real Jews knows the truth, that's why they oppose the isrealhell as a state cause is a racist,. fascist supremacist apartheid state , most of them.believe.to be superior to every human on the the planet.
this is serious journalism :)
Thanks for tuning in. We appreciate you!
She was completely unprepared for this interview. This was an incredible opportunity to ask real questions and she kept asking tired propaganda talking points.
When the host asks "do they acknowledge using sexual violence as a tool of war", she implies that is a fact. But I believe so many credible sources have discredited that. What do most reasonable people believe is the truth regarding this story line?
I don't believe there was any systematic use of rape. To commit rape one needs a semblance of security, and in the chaos of October 7th it was just killed as many people as possible. Now we're women sexually assaulted like groping, fondling or other things in the heat of battle yes. I've seen videos of such on telegram. It was reported they were acts of necrophilia but that's hard to prove.
That is a fact. First of all, men always behave like that in case of chaos regardless of their religion or race. Second in Islam it is totally permissible to kidnap and rape the women of kuffar. Then I don’t know the delusional world you are living in because we saw videos and pictures on October 7th proving that there was sexual assault don’t try to teach me the Muslim men that I know very well and inside which I was raised are angels.
Lets remember a few facts. On october 6 netanyahu was on the verge of signing a contract that would have sealed palestinian fate forever.
I used to like this program. Now I hear the opening sentences that talk about the killing of a thousand people six months ago, but silent on the 30,000 killed since or the 100s of thousands killed between 1948 and 6 months ago. Don’t they count to you, Christiana?
Hummus started the war.
@@samnous2002 with tofu and carrot sticks?
@@revpadma Chickpeas have been behind every war on earth.
Don't reply to these comments. They are all bots. You can tell as they are all new accounts with no activity whatsoever.
85,000 children in Yemen died of starvation, Houthis stole food and medicine, just like Hamas...crickets...
@@revpadmapita or naan? 😋
Fascinating interview, Akbar & Michel!!
There is research showing that prior to october 7, the majority of gazans were extremely unhappy with the Hamas.
So...
The host seems to take on the "Western viewpoint" calling them "terrorists" while they view themselves as "resistance fighters" responding to decades of colonialism and Apartied....
Puhleez! Hamas is a terrorist organization in any civilized book.
@contextmatters8243. How is Israel colonizers? If you look at their demographics: 50% are Jews from the Middle-East & North Africa (MENA), and 20% are Arabs w/ full Israeli citizenship. ONLY 30% ARE JEWS W/ EUROPEAN ORIGINS. This mean 70% are MENA and NOT COLONIZERS. Arabs have full citizenship and are in the govt and the military- so this is the OPPOSITE the definition of APARTHEID.
They are jihadists. Hamas is an textbook Islamofascist organization. No need to over analyse and try to normalise their sick values
They are terrorists. They meet all of the definition of a terrorist organization.
2. Israel is not occupying anything at all. It's never going to cease to exist to appeasing these monsters.
If they view themselves as legitimate fighters then why do they dress as civilians and live among civilians with hundreds of km of underground tunnels, missile launch sites, ammunition dumps, fuel depots built underneath civilian infrastructure?
Fact is they are a death cult who use civilians as shields.
Thats why I understand why the IDF is systematically destroying HAMAS infrastructure step by step in Gaza.
We did test them. They have been the de-facto government of the Gaza strip for over 20 years now. We did test them, and the test results came back on October 7th.
What an interesting interview. Thank you
Ukraine war created an alliance for Russia with India, China and Iran which is already working with Lebanon, Iraq, Yemen and Palestine. Note that Russia has a significant presence in Syria.
Russia and Iran have been exchanging intelligence and weaponry(Russia has nukes but I don't think they gave Iran any). One proof is that Iranian weapons have been shot in large amounts by Russia in Ukraine. Iran is no friend of the USA and is consequently contributing in fighting it via Russia. Iran also receives hypersonic missiles which can't be intercepted by the jewish dome(Iran needed those in backup in case of the next Israeli response).
On April 1st, Israel hit Iran's embassy(or the building adjacent(same difference)) in Damascus killing seven. Iran told USA that it will not respond to the strike if bb stops the genocide. bb declined while knowing that USA can not fight Iran alongside Israel and Israel can not defeat Iran which is backed by many proxies and now Russia and potentially China which can not lose Iran's oil.
On April 13, Israel(and proxies) sent over 300 missiles/drones at Israel for the following reasons-In response to Dasmascus strike and to reassure Iran's population.-To acquire intelligence about the functionality of the iron dome which is composed of 3 sol-air systems.-To signal to Israel that Iran can hit it any time anywhere.
Note that Iran did not use any hypersonic missiles or any new technology to signal Israel of its total strength. Iran's estimated cost of the attack is under 1 million and Israel's defence cost is 1.3 billion. Israel can't sustain its defence because of the expense and the weapon's availability.
Israeli propaganda saying the iron dome intercepted 99% is false. It is meant as usual to reassure the population but other sources stipulate that USA and Jordan intercepted more than Israel. In any case we can conclude that the USA, Jordan and Israel could not avoid Iran hitting its intended targets in Israel.
Russia and the USA never were friends but after 2 years of the USA feeding Ukraine in a costly war, Russia is quite fed up with the USA, UK and Germany(nobody gives a shit about the French cowards). There is consequently a high probability that Russia would support Iran and there is no way that USA will shoot at Iran under these conditions as they already warned bb they would not. They may assist intercepting from the sea but this has already been proven not to be enough.
Everybody knows the USA's modus operandi today ... feed weapons and intelligence to your ally(proxy) but no boots on the ground(meaning do not shoot directly at the enemy) until there is nothing left(Ukraine is defeated as we speak) or you run out of weaponry which is the case here as you don't need no tanks; The dome will run out of anti ballistic missiles which are available in very limited quantities after Ukraine's war.
This, added to the Golan heights, is making lots of rats leave the boat using their second passport. Clear signal of the zionism and bb failure which are hard to keep track of but he certainly failed, defeating Hamas fully knowing it was an impossible goal. The real goal was genocide. He failed recovering hostages not that he tried but why would Hamas give the hostages anyway if bb says he will continue the genocide? I'm not even going into the oct7 intelligence failure as I do not believe it was so but he failed nevertheless and maybe in a worse way than how it is presented.
Now that he's failing on all fronts, he hits Lebanon, Syria and Iran(with or without the USA) next!Since bb knows he's dead anyways we can presume he might not mind going out with a bang.
IF bb hits Iran, this is the end of the tit for tat(war enriches my vocabulary) game. Everybody knows that if he proceeds, Israel will get hit hard from Iran, Lebanon, Iraq, Yemen, Palestine and most probably Russia if necessary. China would probably play like the USA and only supply weapons if necessary.
For 6 months, jews have been kept in the dark using the oct7 bubble. This was a black flag operation. USA has some beef with Russia but why risk American lives with all these Ukrainians available? USA has some beef with Iran but then again they have Israel and everybody knows that if there is one crazy motherfucker that can use a nuke, it's not Putin but the small dickless bb and we have a very precise idea at whom it will aim it which will suit USA fine.
The problem has become a clusterfuck; If bb does not shoot Iran, Israel becomes a weak target, bb dies along with zionism, you end up with 2-states, you slowly recover financially and Hamas will come back with a double revenge for the river-sea scenario because of the genocide.
In conclusion(and the only reason for this note), what I said in October with my ''youtube'' sources and limited analytic talent stands. You created a prison and lost the keys(one way or the other). Hamas did not start a war, you can't go to war with your prisoners!!
So bb should have taken the hit like an adult and negotiated but he decided to drag the whole world in a nightmare.
Hamas has political wing who are exposed to cameras quite well. Hamas leaders were hosted recently by Turkey, Russia, Qatar, Egypt and others you can see and hear from them always on Arab media and Specifically Aljazeera
And they continue to proclaim their genocidal goals, their joy at the "martyrdom" in Gaza and their intention to obliterate all states in the Middle East for an islamic caliphate. The Sunni powers are thrilled that Israel is fighting them.
Do you know how many Palestinian children are in isrealhell jail
Do u know how many innocent civilians including babies were killed raped and burned on Oct 7 th ?
@@user-il2er3uo8h isrealhell can allow un investigation if they are not liars and liars and liars. Invent the evidence at least,
If a goal of Hamas was to reduce the moral authority of Israel and the United States, then they succeeded. How could they not know that Israel would, to a basic human frame of mind, overreact? The ruins of Gaza will be a story for years, and every story will maintain an eroding effect on Israel's reputation. That basic human frame of mind comes from the Torah: Deuteronomy 19:21 "Show no pity, life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot." The principle is both a severe deterrent and a limit on vengeance for the greater good. Israel has gone disproportionately beyond this principle because in large measure the United States empowered it to do so. For what it has done, Hamas is not fit to govern Gaza. Something new, without the key Hamas figures, needs to be formed. But thousands of lives and thousands of homes that will cost billions of dollars to restore did not need to be destroyed to reach a just level of vengeance. This will weaken Israel and the United States. Given the anger involved, Israelis and Palestinians will be eye for eye for the foreseeable future. What can be done, is to strengthen courts in the region and pursue and maintain justice for individuals and their property. Reputation and peace can only be built upon such an effort.
Well said
Hamas lost their legitimacy to rule when they violently overthrew the government and killed their rivals. They didn't even allow student elections in Gaza in which Hamas participates in the West Bank. They ruled Gaza with an iron fist just like every other regime that takes over by force. In the subsequent years they also wiped out any opposition they had mostly from Salafist parties. Once a quote resistance group takes over territory they stop becoming a resistance group and become a government. Hamas never liked being a gov but got stuck with it. Giving it up power would be seen as weak. They're ultimate goal I believe is for them to be like his Hezbollah. Let somebody else run the day-to-day of governing territory but maintain overall security control and veto power. It's like giving up being the COO of a company, But instead being chairman of the board.
BS Israel actions are based on international law, not on torah citations
@@annakortukov2845 Well that says something to religious people in the United States about Israel.
CNN host is pre-judgmental and, therefore, not the best pick for this interview.
In Iran, a regime change shall enhance regional peace and stability. However, it is imperative to champion peaceful, democratic avenues for this transition.
If you think this can be done peacefully you know nothing about the Islamic "Republic" regime in Iran
CIA Coup in Iran 1953…USS Vincennes 1988…Stuxnet 2009…Three acts of war directed at Iran by the US.
I adore the pitch of Christiane's voice.
Western Hypocrites also tagged Nelson Mandela as a terror!!! 😂😂😂
He was a terrorist by definition. Spent much of his life in prison where he rejected violent resistance
@@hadror13yeah terrorists use violence see Gaza...
He was a terrorist.
You really are a hypocrite. You have no Covenant with God or reality. Lies and hate are your oxygen.
God spoke fifty sentences to me from above. He said Make Israel one. The Prophet Abraham brought Isaac to be sacrificed. Your ethos is built on sand.
How biased, uninformed and disappointing the interviewer is! She’s normally quite good on other subjects, but as always the Palestinian issue, or unthinkingly touting the Israeli government line, is the line the liberal media is incapable of crossing.
I felt the same about the interviewer. Surprised at her lack of context for the Palestinian people, and simply spouting the Wests rhetoric. She needs to look into the history. I did appreciate the explanation of the reasons Hamas (and others) broke thru on Oct 7. The Palestinian concern about the rise of the radical elements in the Israeli government and their losing land again! to the settlers.
Not to justify the Hamas attack.
This was an amazing opportunity to ask real questions and she just flippant and unprofessional asking the usual propaganda questions.
or put another way, she wasn't prejudiced in favor of Hamas. Terrible journalism.
@@susanWilder2175 you forgot to add the pending rapprochement with the Sunni states, who despise Hamas and Iran, and frankly have shown little compassion or use for Palestinians. And in any event, even if what you say is correct, attacking civilians like that is still not resistance.
At least ,they have acknowledged hiding among civilians and launching attacks
I confess to chuckling whenever i hear the twin words of hamas and terrorism, three guesses who are the real terrorists that terrorize all of us.
Nice to see a conversation about Hamas between two Israeli spokespeople
It's more like a gossip session than anything else. Kind of... dumb.
Hamas is dumb. Unsurprisingly, how many people here support the evil of hamas.
13:00 so, israel is becoming more right-wing??? as an old israeli Lefty, who's been a member of many organizations fighting for a 2-state solution for decades, all I can say is: what did you expect? many israelis who used to think sanity would prevail if we tried hard enough, have given up. are now saying 'can we speak w/ those who burned families alived, raped and beheaded and put it all online?' and even agreeing w/ our old enemy netanyahoo that 'you can't reward them for oct 7'.
What about the Palestinian children in Israel military prison why is no one talking about the sadistic abuse inflicted on them!!!
They are criminals, many of them attempted to murder Israelis. What about them?
They are more the children of the prisoners since some women were in jail and pregnant. They have chosen to keep the kids with them.
@@jilldent5514can you say bullsshyt
@@republica7337 There are about 200 children in jail in Israel, much less than in the US. Some stabbed or killed Israelis so you would release them to do it again? Some are the children of prisoners.
ask that after the Red Cross is allowed to visit the hostages, including the children, being held by hamas.
How are these people able to enter and leave Gaza and the rest of the Gazans can’t leave?
Why don’t you, PBS, interview Hamas instead of interviewing a journalist who interviewed Hamas? Is it that you are afraid of what Hillary Clinton will say?
Wouldn’t this guy be unalived by Hamas because of his preference of a husband over a wife? I’m confused on why he continues doing these videos
The US response to the Israeli strike on the Iranian consulate in Damascus was to veto the UN draft resolution to condemn it…CIA Coup in Iran 1953..,USS Vincennes 1988…Stuxnet 2009 / Three acts of war directed at Iran by the US.
The festival venue was changed to a Kibbutz adjacent to Nahal Oz Military Base just two days before the 7 /10 despite warnings from several intelligence services to Netanyahu.
Sickening interviewer
Real Talk: Without the October 7 attack, the Western Media and the world would not be talking about the Palestine issue with such regularity. Israel would be left alone with its agenda of Greater Israel at the cost of the Palestinian people. In that sense alone, Palestinian's interest was again in the world's collective psyche.
The CNN broadcaster has missed the whole here: to actually find out from Hamas what actually happened instead of parroting Israeli talking points.
They uploaded their crimes to telegramm
True, the question on systemic rape when 7 months in there are only debunked witness accounts and zero evidence. And yet a CNN broadcaster gets to say it like it's a fact to millions of viewers.... and with a condescending attitude towards anyone who says otherwise. Do they have fact checkers there?
No israelis turned into gaza and west bank after intifadas murders and many suicide bombs in the 2000s and earlier and butcheted a bunch of civilian palestonians as a way of "resisting" the terrorist attacks. So this resistance is BS. Israelis also have loads to grieve and fight back against.
Our leadership in the West led by the US is simply refusing to read the message underlying all of this death and violence. The will of the M.E populations is ironically being reflected by the unpopular Islamic Regime in Tehran. Even if HAMAS capitulated today, stepped forward and introduced each member to the IDF for execution - Even if the Palestinians in the geography or abroad unanimously accepted a two state solution and even if Israel too accepted it at the same time - Even if all the hatchets were miraculously buried between Israelis and Palestinians - Even if the despot governances of the fractured Arabian Peninsula signed a peace accord with Israel and the US - IT WOULD NOT MAKE A BLIND BIT OF DIFFERENCE TO THE TELEGRAM. The will of the populations of the M.E says NO ISRAEL and NO US IN THE M.E. As Iran becomes militarily stronger - at a snail speed owing to the crippling sanctions placed upon it, now in its 45th year - the retention of Israel and the US presence in the M.E is becoming ever more untenable. There is NO REVERSE GEAR, there is no half way point - there is no negotiating. This is a binary simplicity - either the US and its allies give up presence in the M.E - either Israel and Palestine dissolve into one country where all are equal in rights irrespective of religion - or we will eventually encounter the will of the populations of the M.E in a tectonic war. It is up to all of us to choose the ending of this saga - one ending is very bad for the West economically and one ending is the ending for us all when M.A.D is triggered. Soon it will be time to choose - survival or destruction. This is also the resultant end pertaining to Russia - Ukraine and China - Taiwan issues both with different architecture of facts but both leaving us with same choice for an ending. Personally as a nobody I have no say - but I would like to end my days knowing that humans actually talked about the real issues instead of the minutiae adorning the ugly face of the real problems - like what HAMAS did and what HAMAS or Israel want!!
So we’re still having people blithely quote Hamas health ministry figures without caveat on major broadcasters. Christianne, have a word.
Finally someone takes the time to talk with Hamas instead of about Hamas with labels that divert attention from what their stance is and why. I consider the Israeli regime terrorists and Netanyahu the head of this terrorist organization yet there is a double standard. Recently there was an interview with a leader of the Houthies, and we were able to hear and see a very intelligent knowledgable man explaining why. This double standard of who we chose to listen to is counter productive and it is time to have interviews with these groups of resistance instead of instantly labeling and distracting from the occupying and brutal massacres that continue in Palestine.
Any one else beside anampour.
Also she ignored or did not understand what was meant by chaos .. Al Jazeera has a much better piece that talks about this .. they explained two important things .. the music festival was unscheduled and not part of a plan so it was not specifically targeted and when they encountered so many people partying in the desert fighters did not have the discipline to maintain order when confronted with so many people 2nd - the IDF reputation had prepared them for a fierce resistance so they had not expected they would have almost NO resistance and overrun the military installations and have unchallenged freedom of movement to penetrate so deeply into Israel and the Kibbutzes
“Did not have the discipline to maintain order when confronted with so many people” Fool🤦♂️🤡
Oh the poor mindless savages. You are racists to Muslims by infantilizing them. They knew exactly what they were doing they weren’t just unable to control themselves. You would not give the IDF the same courtesy. So your remarks are remarkably both antisemitic and racist to Palestinian Arabs at the same time.
Lol, so when they saw a bunch of hippies, dressed for a rave, they could have, you know, just let them go….
But no, they opted to just slaughter them wholesale. They went through multiple towns, kibbutz, and slaughtered old people, women, children, pretty much anyone wholesale. People just driving down the road ambushed and slaughtered.
Nobody is buying the “chaos” narrative
So they were able to kill more people than they expected. Is that supposed to make it any better?
Read what you wrote again and ask yourself whether there’s any self-deception going on.
Frankly. Al Jazeera does a better job of reporting about hamas leadership. Besides, do you really think that hamas leaders have time to blabber to journalists?
The interviewer is not just ignorant, but totally incompetent. Hamas may be terrible, but this interview is about repeating Israel talking points, NOT getting to some truth.
This flamboyant interviewee
reminded me very much of
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and deserves to be taken about as seriously
Perhaps the ONLY reason civilians were harmed is because Hamas never IMAGINED it would take 6-8 unbelievable HOURS before the IDF finally showed up.
Are you completely insane? Perhaps another hobby, because....
Oh so that makes it OK?
Oh sure, that must be the only reason, they had peace on their minds when they jumped the fences. Are you out of your mind?
Will sharia law implemented in America or not
Occupied resistance under UN definition should not be referred to as terrorists!
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Gaza wasnt occupied, and rape&kidnapping mutilation and cold blooded murder is not resistance..
Hamas is a textbook Islamofascist organization which regularly uses suicide bombers and martyrdom. They are fundamentalist like ISIS barbarism causing mutilation rape and torture as well as take hostages or slaves
And yet, it is a product of occultation. So it does not qualify as a terrorist organization, but rather, freedom fighters.
Are they? Please site your sources. I genuinely wish to learn all I can.
It does seem to me by all of the mostly researchable claims by Israel, there exists the non reported by Israel’s account of the previous provoking attacks against Palestine. Yes they commit martyrdom… not in a the same jihad or isis, ideology that the west is aware of. In fact suicide bombers seem to be rare but they consider their murdered to be martyrs… which is the normal definition. Whether they have behaved or acted morally or by the rules is not a legitimate reason to discount the value of the lives of all Palestinians or even hamas fighters. It would be hypocritical between my own country (US) and the occupying state of Israel… who are competing in the “most hypocritical and corrupt country ran by evil cunts”, awards. All that matters is an entire people have been severely oppressed… by a people that has known over 2000 years of historic oppression… yet cannot see that they’ve become the monster and their own devil. Not just rats in a cage will gnaw and bite and scratch. All life loving animals and people alike would.
@@hadror13the same description can be used at IDF. You can see that in using similar techniques that are designed to terrorize civilians into a certain action.their extreme goals are to control and even depopulate a certain portion of the population
The host is very biased and does not come across as having in depth knowledge of the situation. She did not seem to be aware that Israel has hostages as well.. children as young as 12 held without trial and incommunicado.. she also seems surprised that Hamas would pay attention to USA politics as the state level.. she spoke about them as if they were an amorphous entity and not a resistance organization.. also the thing that is ignored is What are they resisting? It is obvious to say if there is a fierce resistance that has gone on this long, there must be a cause .. this interviewer seemed surprised that they are human and the mass casualty of the Palestinians is just a footnote .. the Israel occupation is brutal and the Palestinian situation is unbearable.. of course they would fight and have the right to resist
So says a Hamas supporter of genocide.
And the twelve year old children have spent their whole life being taught to hate and kill Jews, so they are not innocent children, there is plenty of proof of this, if you want to look for it.
Amazing how people ignore the human will to survive. Israel does it's bloodletting and people wonder why Palestinians would defend themselves and revolt 'how dare they'.
@@samnous2002you should grow a cell, preferably a brain cell.
@@republica7337 That is like a street busker telling the Beatles to develop a tune or two. 🤣
Likewise, what does Isr-rael from the river to the see means ?
It was a likud party manifesto which means the territory of Israel will be only composed of Jewish people...
And yet 20% of israel are arabs. Some of whom are still being held hostage by hamas
@@jgaffney567 Which intrinsically implies that they planned on ethnic cleansing since the origin of Israel
@@MarshallHendrix-nx2gg nope. they were marginalized and out of power for 40 years, and when they were elected, that declaration was not part of anyone's manifesto. Yes they are still extremists; yes, they must be removed from power. At least there is a chance that will happen because they can be voted out. Where else in the Middle East can that happen.
Likud has never called for stripping citizenship rights of the 2 million non-Jewish Israelis. Stop lying.
Why would hamas want to hold on the the hostages,? They have achieved more than ever could be expected with support from foreign people and governments wanting to give sovereign status support for their world recognition.the hostages are jeopardizing this process of recognition.send them back
They can get something for each one of them. Israel is holding Gazan prisoners.
@timtrewyn453 at the moment they are safer there
The amount of virtue signaling in every single question is nauseating!
You forgot that Plo was also terrorists before Oslo accords .So Israel dealed before with that fenomenon of so called transformation from terrorist to politician .Is it worth it ?
The host is clearly pro Israel and see; disappointing and biased.
you mean she doesn't spout pro-Hamas propaganda?
Why would she even ask if they said anything about mass r××× policy on oct 7? When that has been completely debunked on so many levels by now.
Proof?
This is by far the most interesting interview I have seen for a very long time. Thank you
Let's not forget that Isreal and hamas are two sides of the same coin. They both have people in their ranks and leadership who want to wipe out the other side. They both have people in their ranks who say the other has no claim to the land and so their country doesn't exist. They both use terror and torture as a means to destroy the other side. The difference is only one side didn't immigrate to the middle east and displace people who had lived there for generations. Only one side holds more than one passport that they can use to travel freely from their true country of origin back to the middle east. It's clear to me that one side is terrorizing while the other is trying to survive under brutal conditions. It's too bad so many more don't understand that.
Nothing is further from the truth: Israel is a democratic state where its citizens can vote their leaders in and out. Hamas is not. Israel is a First World country. Hamas is nowhere near. Israel gives many rights to women. Hamas does not. Israel highly values its citizens. Hamas deliberately uses Gazans as human shields. It is not Israel's intention to annihilate anybody. Hamas states in its charter it wants to annihilate Israel.
The majority of Israelis did not come from Europe, they came from Arab lands, and don't hold passports back to the failed states of Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, and Iran. Also, there is a documented record of a Jewish presence in 'palestine' since 70AD, recorded by every Empire. So...
Move to the ME? The Israelis never left. Read the Bible. Read history books. At least Israelis don't cut babies from mothers wombs, rape women and burn babies in ovens. Don't even try to disgrace yourself by dismissing the truth. In war there is always a loser. The law of the land. Won't be israel.
One is a country. Another is a terror group that funnels aid for Gazans into unnecessary terroristic aims.
well i must say i condemn Hamas.
I condemn Nethanyu and the IDF.
It’s a joke 😂
Bullshit I'm gone
We still hold so much collective outrage over October 7 justifying a response that’s lead to a genocide and starvation of over a million people.
question: Of the people at the music festival, how many were IDF or military? active duty or reserves
Hundreds of thousands of Israelis are in the reserves, waiting to be mobilized in case of a war.
Millions of American men WILL get drafted in case of a war.
So, what are you actually saying? That throughout the years they're living their life, they're a legitimate target?
Give me a break. It wasn't a military event.
Also how many killed fellow Israelis?
@@rufescens Imagine thinking that all the american soldiers who are off duty and home with their families all over the states are legitimate military targets
@@rufescens So, you're therefore saying the carpet bombing with us bombs that's killed 30,000 innocent children is a legitimate military target.
If yes you must be a Zionist monster too
Hamas and Gaza so called innocent citizens, this is for you:
Starting a war and then loosing it, does not make you a victim.
Remember it, because you do the same mistake again and again and again. And now you are asking for cease fire????
What an asinine comment. Completely devoid of historical context. Do you realize that the ultimate zionist goal was to eradicate the land of all Palestinians?
The vast majority of the people at the concert were current or former IDF soldiers. They were at the concert as civilians, but they were active duty or reservists.
45% of Hamas victims that day were military targets.
45% of IDF victims in Gaza are children, 90% are civilians.
Don't forget that there were gangs that took advantage of the fence breach to enter Israel, and at least the one jeep full of African militants who abducted Naama Levy.
Don't forget that ZACA has retracted their "40 beheaded babies" claim, and has admitted that their rape allegations have zero evidence gathered and were based on assumptions and a goal of getting donations. One little swab showing male DNA would go a long way to convincing me, but not a single one was obtained.
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You are not military if you are reserve and be civilian with no weapons!!! This is BS. Unless you are in active military and gear you are NOT military stop spewing lies
In the West we don't consider off-duty or reservists people to be combatants
This was one of the justifications of bin laden for 9/11. That all American Men sign up for selective service when they turn 18 so their potential soldiers.
Of course it was worth it. They were in prison.
Gaza is destroyed. They are in the same so called "prison" only smaller and living in tents. While Hamas is hiding and keeping the hostages
And where are they now?🤔
@@Aljosef6366 on the minds and hearts of the entire world.
@@hadror13and Israeli’s are exiting in mass.
@@TheShantown1 Gaza not trending anymore , no one cares . Ukraine got their weapons
What a load of rubbish
Pizza Hut or Domino.
Does she know the definition of Terrorism? What Hamas did it's not different from what the IDF is doing, so did the US in Iraq,
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As if i did not abhor Hamas enough. Smh. They dont care about their own people.
@michellenorris8471 - I don't think either govt cares about their people. I believe both govt leaders should be charged with war crimes.
Israel must leave Palestine
Informative interview. The article itself worth a read.
Thanks for tuning in.
Always 2 black people talking about other black people and dismiss their real struggles.
There are only 20 hostages left?😢😥😓😰😭
there is almos 40.000 people d..d what do you expect?
for sure same of them are the hostages
Too nauseating to listen to
If Hamas is the civilian population, then who are the Hamas leaders who sit in Qatar? And who was in the Iranian embassy that Israel attacked and Iran retaliated against? I feel terrible about what happens to Palestinians, but every day Israel authorized 20,000 of them to enter Israel and work in an effort to help stabilize the area by helping more Gaza families, and I believe that ended now so the Gaza population is punished again by Hamas' actions. And Hamas blames Israel for not having enough defenses to prevent them from committing so many atrocities? That's a pretty crazy way to look at it. I guess Israel should never have allowed any Palestinians in to work. Hamas believes it has been worth all the casualties, but most folks still seem to blame Israel for what's going on. I think if Hamas gave the hostages back that Israel would stop their ground offensive immediately. So who really has control of the situation?
Deflecting blame becomes a pathology but it's roots are in evil. Evil has many forms as well. One-sided vision ties into the delusions.
If Israel gave the rights of the Palestinian people not keeping them in open air prison and stealing Palestinian properties, Israel could have been living with a peace. Israel always deceived Palestinian .
Except that Israel has clearly stated that it will not end the war even if the hostages are released 🙄
You know Bibi supported Hamas to terrorize moderate Palestinians,
Israel must leave Palestine
Lies upon lies
A weak west panders to Islamofascists A strong west gives Israel the greenlight to finish the war Palestine started in 47'. The real "free Palestine" are the 2 million Palestinians who are Israeli citizens. They are the freest Muslims in the middle east. The non-Israeli Palestinians will never be free under Islamic autocracy.
Regurgitating rhetoric. . first the goal is not going to happen by force...the problem is not one of too much freedom but lack of equal freedom. It is an idea you can not crush an idea . Despite the most force the world has ever seen alquada is still exist and are growing...these are symptoms the problem is state policy. You are gaslighting
Exactly!!! Well said!!👏👏
@michellenorris8471this is thr palestinians choice. They have chosen death and destruction for 80 years.
No Israelis who are not Jewish are not being treated equally and it is only getting worse. Non- Orthodox Jews are not being treated equally by Netanyahu and his supporters and they are weary as well of extreme bigots who repeatedly provoke warfare but are not required to themselves engage in it. You are clearly not following publicly presented political views, debates and bills presented by Netanyahu et al on the definition of an Israeli citizen and the complete opposition by many sectors of Israeli society who are not Palestinians and are fed up.
Hanas was elected? Are you conveniently dense?
There has not been another election since they gained power. So yes and no
They have not enjoyed a significant lead, however; it has been a choice between two very poor options. Let’s not pretend that winning an election is synonymous with “widespread support.”
Incidentally, insulting others doesn’t inform them effectively and it certainly doesn’t score you a win.
@@AMunoz-rh9cz Rest assured. No pretenses whatsoever! Simply and factually pointing out to the interviewer that Hanas got elected.
I noticed C.Amanpour always puts someone in between herself (the interviewer) and the interviewee whenever the interviewie is from a diverse background. Is this a sign of racism? I have always admired the interviewer on CNN but is gradually losing the admiration for the perceived lack of sincerity on the part of popular CNN political observer.
Note: why is it important to talk to Hamas? Answer. It is not important. Your listeners do not want to hear anything Hamas might say. If they want to know the truth they can listen to what Israel has to say, or to Blinken. After all it is not ok to interview Putin, so therefore why would you allow on your show a Hamas enabler. Just ask Hillary Clinton she will explain this to you.
It is pretty sad that you have to justify an interview with Hamas. But you are part of this problem.
The interviewer is just foaming with hate and bias , she should hold back her vulgar expressions
note: the time he had to spend justifying his talking to Hamas.
9:02 They are willing to go to the negotiating table. But they're not going to acknowledge Israel's right to exist.
So, would it be wise for Israel to agree to a Palestinian land whose citizens will always try to destroy it?
Maybe Israel no longer have the right to exist. They are a failed state
It’s not Khamas it’s Israel stealing everything from Palestine even women’s clothing, make up, Palestinian kids bikes. Just imagine who’s going to like Israel.
He specifically said and it's also on the H@m@s charter, that they will recognise the 1967 borders!
What about Netanyahu's view in this regard???
Israel has the right to exist in Europe, why not Germany?
A very insightful interview that merely confirms that the people of Gaza are Hamas. They elected Hamas as well as allowing the violent rejection and ejection of a more moderate PLO opposition. It also confirms that in spite of the current denials and blame shifting by Gazan supporters, the general populace engaged actively in 7/10 or were complicit in some way.