My 5820k is overclocked to 4.5ghz with a h100i gtx, using only 1.250v, if you're planning to start a streaming channel this is the cpu to go with, 10% usage with OBS and a bunch of web tabs open, not a single frame lost when gaming and streaming.
Powersupply should be the best piece of your system anyway, its basically insurance + college tuition + rainy day jar wrapped into one. So if something goes wrong, such as oversupply from the wall, your powersupply should be the only thing that dies if anything were to do so. So tl;dr, if I wasn't a college student working 12h a week I would plan my system then buy the highest rated powersupply I can that is within the wattage I require + 20%. Cuz for eg: I dont think they make platinum 500W supplies yet.
+Luis Ortiz Yes, but not every sample can hit 4.5Ghz, the 5820k, you are an extremely lucky guy if your sample is stable under stress tests. On average, the 5820 can hit around ~4.3-4.4Ghz @1.3V. So guys don't go out and buy a 5820k just because you expect your sample to hit 4.5Ghz, you could end up having a hard time getting the thing to go past 4.2Ghz. If you want better OC performance out of haswell, go for the 5930k.
2 vids in a row without Linus. . . . . Luke's killed Linus and taken over LinusMediaGroup! Strange videos about hiding 'things' makes perfect sense now.
probably going to be a much different story when Dx12 becomes more mainstream expect it to much better utilise those extra cpu cores giving it a edge over the mainstream series
+Droogie128 It will, because Intels mainstream CPU's will probably stick to 4 cores, 6 cores for mainstream CPU's probably won't be for another few years when DX12 is working fully, has complete GPU support, and is mainstream. 4 cores is just much easier to handle, heat wise.
+Tokyo Drift You should read up on what DX12 actully does, rather then going with these wrong assumptions. DX12 won't add support for more cores, as DX11 already supports all the current cpu's and there cores. What DX12 will do, is throw a bunch of the current cpu based task over on the gpu. Thereby making your games work better with lesser cpus. It won't change a thing for guys running the X99.
The funny thing is That the 5820k CPU is a bit cheaper than the 6700k in Sweden xD but the x99 motherboards is a bit more expensive.. So I went for an 5820k cuz the 2 more core and I got motherboard, ram and a 1tb ssd for a great deal :P
+Rickzzen fantastic! the 5820k is for content production and overall higher throughput, the mainstream CPU's are going to be OKish for games, but when you want to run VM's, play youtube videos and maybe even run a game, x99 can handle that, mainstream, not so much, remember, the benchmarks are done in DUAL channel for x99(Luke mentioned it), in QUAD channel, you're going to benefit QUITE A BIT
+zdringy yea I got 4 sticks of ram. (32 gb) but one or two of the sticks are not functioning correct. But your right. I wanted that 6th core for better multitasking :P
I'm I the only one who would love a full rundown from the i7 920 to 2600K, 3770K an d so on to the current gen 5820/6700K? I still know a bunch of people rocking the 920 slightly OCed with minimum upgrades. Like most of them put in a SSD around 2010 and a new midrange graphics card like in 2012/early 2013. These systems are now closing in to six-seven years old but still manage to hold up in games and day to day use. One of the guys i know put in a GTX970 on launch and he is having a blast. A fun thing would be to see the cost of the system per year of use. ($1000 computer used for 3 years in $333 a year) My 3770K, 8GB DDR3 and GTX660 build from April 2012 is till going strong. No games has been to demanding (I'm not a graphicswhore) and no HW upgrades has been done. The next test for it is Fallout4. Having a rig for three or more years was pretty much unthinkable in the early 2000's. High end Pentiums and early core2 duos with 1-2 gigs of RAM was pretty much unusable within 2 years. I only got a little over 2 years from my core2duo E6600, 2GB RAM and 8800GTS 320MB...
vesleengen Same here 2 years later. Got a 2014 system with the 5820k OCed to 4.5 GHZ, 8GB of DDR4 and a 780 Ti OCed to the equivalent of a 1060 OC on Unheaven Engine. This system makes light work of everything I throw at it and I expect it to last like 6 years since it has 12 threads, so it's still up to date on that sense.
@@TheThunderwars yes, i7s from Sandy Bridge and later could be used almost on everything, within normal resulutions (1080p and lower), we never seen 10 year old CPU still usable in computer history before. This aplied to 2000's, 1990's and 1980's. Imagine using 4 MHZ IBM PC in 1991, when 486 was out. :) That thing would not even run windows 3.11. Same applies in 2000's, 486 from 1990 would be completly useless. But now, we can use 10 year old Sandy Bridge. I even using Q6600 to this date, it's still usable on normal tasks, although demanding games after year 2012 are problems. Still can run Crysis 1 and 2 on the decent settings. Anyway, one issue to use so old platforms for year, is power consumption. You basicaly pay new processor on electricity after those years. This is the reason to move at least to newest Ryzen 3/5 CPUs, if you want to use it for another couple of years. If 4C/8T is still enough for you, Ryzen 3 3300x is a no brainer, it's powerconsumption is so low, it's even like 55W on load, when graphic card is idling. I'm thinking about upgrading to i7-3770, well xeon variant that costs about 25$, and trying to get used motherboard. For me, it's enough, as I don't playing demanding games.
To be honest, i really enjoy the multi part series where you guys do some massive project like the whole room water cooling, the submerged pc, and so on.
I hope you guys do a Part 2 of this video that overclocks 5820K to a more reasonable 4.3-4.5Ghz and i7 6700K to 4.7-4.8Ghz. Overclocked performance is key because not only are both of these K series chips meant for this task, but the 5820K starts off at a very low base clock which means it should theoretically benefit much more from overclocking as at stock it's too penalized in IPC by lower clocks. Secondly, please add more multi-tasking benchmarks to show just how much do we actually get from the extra 2 cores. You could also try to do a multi-tasking scenario of using multiple apps like streaming, video encoding and gaming at the same time. I bet if you guys do that the 5820K @ 4.4Ghz will trounce an i7 6700K @ 4.8Ghz.
Awesome. I recall a video you guys made at a tech show, showing the Intel booth displaying a skylake machine. It was showing off it's 4K workflow. I was very impressed with how well that machine was handling the footage, granted I know the rest of the build had a lot to do with that. With this new comparison, you guys should do a build focusing on 4K editing. I know you know more about it than I, and I would be interested in what you would recommend as a mid-high end build. I use my PC for editing first, gaming second. Over the last couple of years, the type of build that this type of use translates to has drastically changed.
Comon guys.... who is going to buy a 5820k and not overclock it? Its stock clock is at 3.3GHz, but most overclock them to 4.5GHz easily. The 6700k has a stock clock of 4GHz, but most only overclock them up to 4.6 or 4.7GHz. Do this test again, but overclock the CPUs (on the same cooler at 75 degrees each on prime95) -- which is the configuration most will use them in.
Please add a correction that the 6700k has 16 PCI Express lanes... ark.intel.com/products/88195/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_20-GHz However, with the 6700k you can still do 2x SLI with each card at 8x plus a 4x PCIe M.2 Drive (totalling 20x). The difference with Z170 is the M.2 will be routed through DMI and not connected directly to the CPU such as with X99.
I have an idea, you can start taking suggestions of people's comments for the last line in the intro (like the one at 0:41). You can announce if the next episode has a certain theme or it can be random so people can comment.
Let me just adjust the scores as if they were BOTH overclocked. I took 4.4GHz for the 5820k (stat average is 4.5-4.6 so this is lower) and 4.8GHZ for the 6700k (stat average also about 4.6). Basically I'm giving the 6700k a fighting chance. Performance % is the 5820k relative to the 6700k. Cinebench 5820k scores 1360, 6700k scores 1066. 5820k at 127% performance up from 114% at stock speeds. 7-Zip 5820k scores 40928, 6700k scores 29963. 5820k at 136% performance up from 123% at stock speeds. Dolphin thing 5820k does 399 seconds, 6700k does 340 seconds. 5820k at 85% performance up from 77% at stock speeds. Webxpt 5820k scores 493, 6700k scores 527. 5820k at 94% performance up from 84% stock speeds. So even with a less-likely high OC on the 6700k, a less than average 5820k OC brings single core performance much closer to equal, and then in multi-core applications absolutely crushes the 6700k, and honestly where I live, the x99 setup costs just as much as z170. Basically, buy a 6600k unless you REALLY need more power, the only logical next step up is the 5820k. I've been telling this to people for weeks now.
Given those prices you quoted, I got a steal on the X99/5820K combo I bought. Add in 16GB RAM and I paid $600 plus sales tax. There are comparable 6700K combinations available as well for a little higher than what I paid for the combo I bought, but the client that is getting the machine I'm building will be needing the higher core/thread count of the 5820K given some of what he wants to get into. Plus a higher core count also means you can run more processes on your system without impacting other processes.
So I have a question, knowing lots about hardware and my current needs has led me to make up my mind and be stuck with these 2 choices. I am majoring in Game Design, so I'm going to be doing lots of texturing, 3D modelling, and all sorts of HEAVY load tasks. Should I go with a higher core count but lower single core performance 5820k? Or should I go the lower core higher single core performance 6700k route? I'm guessing 5820k, but give me your opinions.
+Kael Totally my point. And in the end, why buying a K chip if you dont overclock. This should have been tested at same clocks for both chips since the 6700k is 4.2ghz turbo and the 5820k is only 3.6ghz. Both will clock about the same when overclocked so you should simply have ran those test at 4.4 or 4.5 ghz. ( a mr nobody overclock )
Thanks for this comparison. From a music production standpoint, X99 is a great platform for use with multi core enabled DAWs & VSTs (with the added expense of a graphics card) but Z170 is now supporting Thunderbolt 3 which has the best low latency for recording/tracking so it ultimately depends on your individual scenario
estas son mis dudas estoy indeciso si irme por 6700k o por el 5820k Duda 1- 6700k soporta quad channel? o solo dual channel Duda 2- En caso de irme por 5820k quiero la tarjeta madre rog strix x99 gaming, pero esta tiene para 8 memorias y la tecnologia es quad channel, mi duda es tengo que comprar 2 kit de quad chanel osea 2 kit 4x2 para sumar 16gb con los dos kit , o un kit de 8x4 ( 8 ram de 4gb) nose si me explique. mi uso de la pc es editar videos 4k para subir a youtube y para jugar
I really don't like that you compared them on stock speeds. I think a comparison at an average OC speed would be more representative of the real would usage.
+John Doe (Smagjus) I'd rather know what I'm getting right out of the box. Besides, you can OC the 6700K higher than the 5820K, so an average speed wouldn't represent what most people who buy them are going to be running them at.
+John Doe (Smagjus) Although you can overclock the 6700k to about 4.6Ghz on average, the 5820k also overclocks to about 4.3Ghz on average, with a sensible amount of volts[~1.3v]. So you could see a 30% improvement on average if you overclock the 5820k, versus 15% for the 6700k, this brings the 5820k much closer to the 6700k in STP, not to mention it pulls ahead like a champ in mulithreaded workloads.
Cloud VII Now that ain't an average overclock is it? Most people aren't going to get a stable overclock above 4.6ghz[Average sample] to 4.8Ghz[good sample] while keeping the voltage sensible, and not spending too much on cooling.
This should have been tested at same clocks for both chips since the 6700k is 4.2ghz turbo and the 5820k is only 3.6ghz. Both will clock about the same when overclocked so you should simply have ran those test at 4.4 or 4.5 ghz. ( a mr nobody overclock )
Problem. You didnt overclock. The 5820k is 3.3 ghz, and the 6700k is 4.0 ghz (without counting turbo). Thats NOT a small difference. considering how easily the 5820k overclocks to around 4.5ghz. The single threaded performance of the 6700k is a joke compared to haswell/devils canyon. Its almost nothing. The real benefits are things you didnt discuss.
I just got the x-99 for my computer build I did last month. It was such an improvement that needed for my video production. Love my setup with 32 gigabytes of ram in four channel mode. Will upgrade in a couple months or so to 64.
Is my i7-2600 3,8Ghz still a good processor? Back in 2012 it was one of the best but i was wondering how it would do now compared to the 6700K ad 5820K ?
I mean, nobody is perfect. Linus, for some reason, uses that text reader which he has to touch every now and then - Luke doesn't. On the other hand, Luke thinks he's funny, and he's not - Linus is hilarious. I like potatoes.
I'm in need of help deciding on a CPU! So the 5820K would be better for music production because of it's 6 cores and 12 threads over the 6700K? Are the differences from a Z170 mobo and an X99 mobo big or need to be taken serious consideration? I'm building a silent music production PC that I will use for some gaming as well. Thanks!
Can you guys compare multi-gpu performances, both AMD and Nvidia, between the 5820k and the 6700k? The x800's typically have more pci-e lanes(28 vs 16), which should eventually emerge as advantages over the x700 series compensating with a PEX chip, but the question is, how many gpu's until that difference bears its head. When you hit bandwidth limitations, it induces frame stuttering, so that should be avoided at all costs.
Alright I still have a question. Do you necessarily need more cores to run 4k gaming? Why does linus use the cheapest 6-core chip at the making of his 4k build?
So tell me Luke, what am I missing out on with my overclocked 5960 and overclocked 980Ti's in SLI on a custom cooling loop? Am I still losing frames and can you tell me what hot new piece of tech is utilizing USB3-c?
I wish you would have done the game benchmarks at the same clock speed. I'm going to assume that if you OC'd that 5820k to 4ghz the story would have been different. I'm really stuck in the middle of a debate. I'm upgrading from my old 2600k but I can't really justify moving to another 4 core CPU, with DX12 around the corner. From what I've read about DX12 its going to take better advantage of 6-8 core CPUs.
you should have OC'ed them both to like 4.5 on the i7 5820k and 4.7-4.7 on the 6700k to represent how most people buying $ 300-500 CPU's will actually use them.
Hello i am building a pc from scratch i am going for a gaming pc. I am asking the ages old question which one is better? I am looking into an sli configuration in the future so thats a factor too. Which one is gonna have more fps? Overall which one is better 5820k or 6700k?
I like the video overall, but you forgot one crucial thing, i7-6700K clocks are 4GHz/4.2GHz turbo by default, i7-5820K clocks are 3.3GHz/3.6GHz turbo by default; since I have i7-5820K, I can tell from my own experience it took practically zero effort to push it to rock-solid stable 4.3GHz(all6cores)/4.4GHz(3cores) using ASUS X99-S and air cooler Noctua NH-U14S, and I doubt i7-6700K can be clocked significantly higher than that, and so in most games which use less cores but high frequency, even the i7-5820K wins (especially because the bigger cpu chip and heatspreader and better TIM help the cpu dissipate heat much more efficiently and so overclock fairly high while keeping temps relatively low)
in streaming/video capture which will be best to run with? I am interested in the msi x99a raider motherboard (8 ddr4 slots up to 128gig ram max) I don't think the 6700 will go into it anyway but graphics card I believe I should get 8gig on that...and have at least 16gig ram to start...then the power supply no less than 850w would prefer 1000w so if and when I upgrade my graphics to the crossfire graphics I won't need to replace the power supply with more power to power the new devices and also throw some more ram in at that time as well...I have a budget of $1300 max so this is me running into issues to get what I want...I like the reviews on the sapphire 8gb graphics card think extreme x and I am also liking the reviews for the kingston fury ram (2x8gb) so that takes me over the top...even with the cheapest case I am still running over my limit...because I am reading all the reviews and watching all the videos of comparison videos to ensure I get what I want and it do what I need...if you watch some of my videos I have on my channel you can see the lag and ever since I took that video I am unable to bet obs to work at all it freezes the video part but you can hear it and that was how it was in the first several attempts to record game play and I finally got it set up right and then IDK what happened and now I can't stream...I got a new laptop a toshiba satellite and was told it could stream and could record etc. but still can't figure out how to set up obs on it yet to try and see if I even need to build/have built a tower which I wouldn't mind doing since I am needing a third computer so me and my two sons can play minecraft together...eventually but not this year I want a fourth so my husband too can be corrupted in playing minecraft soon...anyways thanks for any in put and advice you have for me...maybe I should go with refurbished and find a clearence atx tower and run with it
dude seriously thank you. You made my decision final. can always just youtube whatever tech i need info on or an EXACT comparison and end it with linus and bam. there it is. bench marks and tons of hours of camparing done for me in a quick snippet. THANKS!
Doesn't running quad channel reduce your overall performance? The memory controller has to write to 4 different modules as opposed to just 2.. Or have components gotten to the point to where it such a small amount it isn't worth worrying about? I'm currently upgrading to Z170 with skylake, and I had opted for dual channel for this reason.
Now u need to do a 4770k, 4790k, 4960x, 6700k, 5820k, 5930k, 5960x showdown. Give all of them 16 GB of Corsair Dominator Platinum RAM at 2400 MHZ, either DRR3/4 respectively. Paired with a 970, 970 2 way SLI, 980, 980 2 way SLI, 980Ti, 980Ti 2 way SLI, Titan X, Titan X 2 way SLI. For the hard drive give them 730 series SSDs.
Will you be able to use the 6950x on the Z170 chipset? I built my rig in November and will be looking to upgrade in a few years, so I want to know if I should get the extreme cpu or x99
I think it would be interesting to have some sort of building competition featuring some of the other guys (like teams) or a competition limited to only LMG-owned hardware (like an office scavenger hunt build.)
Great video, I have been researching both these CPU and I'm still not sure which way to go. I need something for 3D animation render, 3D cad/cam work and 3D photo rendering. I have a I have a GTX 980ti which helps but I want to upgrade or build a newer dominant PC. Can you tell me which would be better for my needs? Thanks
5820k owner here, built my X99 rig Sep 1st 2014. Running 5820k stable 24/7 1.35v @ 4.4ghz and 16gb DDR4-3000. 6700k is a really nice CPU, but it simply wasn't available over a year ago when I upgraded. As a gamer if I was buying today I would probably get a 6700k and push for 4.7ghz. A year ago my rig was justified because it seemed like DX12 was really going to see a big boost for 6 core CPUs. Now it does not look that way and it's still a ways off before we have any retail DX12 titles.
Yes, more content like Scrapyard Wars would be good. I don't have a specific format to suggest, but anything that has you and your friends questing around the province would be sure to entertain. The videos that are most fun to watch are the ones you have the most fun making, for example failing to destroy two consecutive generations of Dell XPS laptops with rainwater. Keep goofing off and filming it, I'll keep watching.
So is it still worth to buy a non DDR5 motherboard when i want top gaming performance for the next 5 Years? Or isnt that really important for gaming wheter you have a DDR3 or 4 setup?
Selfish request that others may want too - A video going over whether Win10 is professional ready - I know a general review went out I think, but would be nice to know if the upgrade is stable enough for "work" PCs (would like to know compatibility specifically with current versions of 3ds max, Photoshop, xNormal, etc. or what ever common programs people might use). Doesn't need to cover my specific program use, can just be a general 'is it "worth" the hassle' for people dependent on stability - at some point in the months leading up to the close off date for people with the option to upgrade for free.
Z170 or x99? I like to edit videos And I like to game on pc But the amount of editing and gaming is the same. What should i choose is the z170 feature proof?
JesseR25NL if I was you I'd wait for Zen which will come out around 17th January. It's 8 core will be 300 USD and it will match the 5960x, if not better.
I'm more curious as to how well they perform when both are overclocked to 4.6ghz. comparing stock to stock is kinda silly when there is a 700mhz gap to start.
in my opinion it is worth putting a 6800k on a x99 board. the price difference is like ~50$ and you get quad channel memory and a 6 core processor with a higher quality chipset and things.
Judging by the early VR SLI tests it looks like x99's x16/x16 pcie3.0 actually might provide a tangible benefit to performance. When you've only got ~11ms to render and output a frame, having to waste a couple milliseconds transferring even half a frame between the GPUs substantially impacts the potential scaling you get from SLI. If you're planning on doing SLI + VR it'd be a good idea to do your homework and perhaps sit on your cash for a while longer yet until the API landscape has settled a bit.
I would have much rather liked to see the clock speeds on the processors matched. The 5820k and 6700k are different at stock (3.3GHz vs 4.0GHz). Since they can reach pretty much identical overclocks, a balanced clock speed would be a better test imo.
What i'm actually waiting for after seeing this is doing a comparison based on PC's who got stream games and play them at the same time. Loads of streamers use capture cards but for those who don't want that, it would be interesting to know. What to go with. (though I7 or AMD FX8350 or later) is usually recommended.
Audio sounds weird or is it just me?
Just u sry
+Something Random Inc. Sounds like he has a stuffed nose on my end.
+TrueZtyleZ7 like every other video then
+Something Random Inc. Get out TROLLS posting this on every video.
+Something Random Inc. Its not just you.
My 5820k is overclocked to 4.5ghz with a h100i gtx, using only 1.250v, if you're planning to start a streaming channel this is the cpu to go with, 10% usage with OBS and a bunch of web tabs open, not a single frame lost when gaming and streaming.
***** Not sure if you're trolling or being serious...
+James Delgado If you can afford a 5820k and a X99 mobo you SHOULD be able to afford a good power supply
+hondannyboy omg...
Powersupply should be the best piece of your system anyway, its basically insurance + college tuition + rainy day jar wrapped into one. So if something goes wrong, such as oversupply from the wall, your powersupply should be the only thing that dies if anything were to do so.
So tl;dr, if I wasn't a college student working 12h a week I would plan my system then buy the highest rated powersupply I can that is within the wattage I require + 20%.
Cuz for eg: I dont think they make platinum 500W supplies yet.
+Luis Ortiz Yes, but not every sample can hit 4.5Ghz, the 5820k, you are an extremely lucky guy if your sample is stable under stress tests. On average, the 5820 can hit around ~4.3-4.4Ghz @1.3V. So guys don't go out and buy a 5820k just because you expect your sample to hit 4.5Ghz, you could end up having a hard time getting the thing to go past 4.2Ghz. If you want better OC performance out of haswell, go for the 5930k.
2 vids in a row without Linus. . . . .
Luke's killed Linus and taken over LinusMediaGroup!
Strange videos about hiding 'things' makes perfect sense now.
+TheWayWeSee LukeMediaGroup. Dont even have to change the acronym LMS. Coincidence?
+Dredrik Salkon
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Spoiler: I'm on vessel and Austin Evans wins scrapyard wars, and takes over Linus Media Group. Linus is exiled to America.
+TheWayWeSee Dominance of King Luke ove LMG started with How to hide your porn video. Lets hope for the best...all hail King Luke!
*LukeMediaGroup
probably going to be a much different story when Dx12 becomes more mainstream expect it to much better utilise those extra cpu cores giving it a edge over the mainstream series
Assuming developers take advantage of it in time for it to matter anymore.
+Droogie128 It will, because Intels mainstream CPU's will probably stick to 4 cores, 6 cores for mainstream CPU's probably won't be for another few years when DX12 is working fully, has complete GPU support, and is mainstream. 4 cores is just much easier to handle, heat wise.
Ironside12 which means the extra threads won't matter much even with dx12. Not until 6+ cores become mainstream
+Ironside12 (Scott Hamilton) Soo... my next cpu in about 4 years should be a 6-8 core? I think a 4 core cpu should hold up pretty well until then.
+Tokyo Drift You should read up on what DX12 actully does, rather then going with these wrong assumptions.
DX12 won't add support for more cores, as DX11 already supports all the current cpu's and there cores.
What DX12 will do, is throw a bunch of the current cpu based task over on the gpu. Thereby making your games work better with lesser cpus.
It won't change a thing for guys running the X99.
The funny thing is That the 5820k CPU is a bit cheaper than the 6700k in Sweden xD but the x99 motherboards is a bit more expensive.. So I went for an 5820k cuz the 2 more core and I got motherboard, ram and a 1tb ssd for a great deal :P
Nice.
+Rickzzen fantastic! the 5820k is for content production and overall higher throughput, the mainstream CPU's are going to be OKish for games, but when you want to run VM's, play youtube videos and maybe even run a game, x99 can handle that, mainstream, not so much, remember, the benchmarks are done in DUAL channel for x99(Luke mentioned it), in QUAD channel, you're going to benefit QUITE A BIT
+zdringy yea I got 4 sticks of ram. (32 gb) but one or two of the sticks are not functioning correct. But your right. I wanted that 6th core for better multitasking :P
whered you buy it from
ThePlushNinja where did I buy what from?
I think I'd still wanna go with X99 for sure. But money. Alas.
try now lol
I'm early, better make a joke.
Intel Atom
I better make a joke too...
AMD :P
+You no
+Amusix BOOOO get off the stage
+Vulkanic I say YES. Haha
+You amd is good mate.
You can overclock a 5820k you can't increase the number of cores on the 6700k though.
just download the extra cores
I'm I the only one who would love a full rundown from the i7 920 to 2600K, 3770K an d so on to the current gen 5820/6700K?
I still know a bunch of people rocking the 920 slightly OCed with minimum upgrades. Like most of them put in a SSD around 2010 and a new midrange graphics card like in 2012/early 2013. These systems are now closing in to six-seven years old but still manage to hold up in games and day to day use. One of the guys i know put in a GTX970 on launch and he is having a blast.
A fun thing would be to see the cost of the system per year of use. ($1000 computer used for 3 years in $333 a year)
My 3770K, 8GB DDR3 and GTX660 build from April 2012 is till going strong. No games has been to demanding (I'm not a graphicswhore) and no HW upgrades has been done. The next test for it is Fallout4.
Having a rig for three or more years was pretty much unthinkable in the early 2000's. High end Pentiums and early core2 duos with 1-2 gigs of RAM was pretty much unusable within 2 years.
I only got a little over 2 years from my core2duo E6600, 2GB RAM and 8800GTS 320MB...
+vesleengen If you like to read, www.anandtech.com/show/9483/intel-skylake-review-6700k-6600k-ddr4-ddr3-ipc-6th-generation/11
vesleengen Same here 2 years later. Got a 2014 system with the 5820k OCed to 4.5 GHZ, 8GB of DDR4 and a 780 Ti OCed to the equivalent of a 1060 OC on Unheaven Engine. This system makes light work of everything I throw at it and I expect it to last like 6 years since it has 12 threads, so it's still up to date on that sense.
@@TheThunderwars yes, i7s from Sandy Bridge and later could be used almost on everything, within normal resulutions (1080p and lower), we never seen 10 year old CPU still usable in computer history before. This aplied to 2000's, 1990's and 1980's. Imagine using 4 MHZ IBM PC in 1991, when 486 was out. :) That thing would not even run windows 3.11.
Same applies in 2000's, 486 from 1990 would be completly useless.
But now, we can use 10 year old Sandy Bridge. I even using Q6600 to this date, it's still usable on normal tasks, although demanding games after year 2012 are problems. Still can run Crysis 1 and 2 on the decent settings.
Anyway, one issue to use so old platforms for year, is power consumption. You basicaly pay new processor on electricity after those years. This is the reason to move at least to newest Ryzen 3/5 CPUs, if you want to use it for another couple of years. If 4C/8T is still enough for you, Ryzen 3 3300x is a no brainer, it's powerconsumption is so low, it's even like 55W on load, when graphic card is idling. I'm thinking about upgrading to i7-3770, well xeon variant that costs about 25$, and trying to get used motherboard. For me, it's enough, as I don't playing demanding games.
The sound seems to be flatter than usual. Are you guys still moving things around or just rushing?
would love another scrap yard wars
He is making one first Ep is on Vessel
+Geralt Of Rivia yay! thanks
+0SimpleSam yeah stop with this filler shit. no one gives a fuck. give us scrapyard wars
+0SimpleSam its already out on vessel.
+samuel rutledge whats vessel
I'd like to see how the both perform at 4.5GHz vs each other.
Fix the potato mic pls.
To be honest, i really enjoy the multi part series where you guys do some massive project like the whole room water cooling, the submerged pc, and so on.
he wants us to leaf a like
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Please do i7-4790k vs i7-6700k
Weird audio or it's just me ?
+Valarusar #mynigganoahisback
+Sandeep Jodhee No, you are the chosen one! You are the only one who has been divinely chosen to hear an audio difference! I relish in your privilege.
+Sandeep Jodhee The mic sounds shit to me.
By far one of the best channels on RUclips. Informative, well edited videos/production, easy and fun to watch!
My 3770K is still doing fine, will hold out till cannon lake in 2017.
Still waiting?
I hope you guys do a Part 2 of this video that overclocks 5820K to a more reasonable 4.3-4.5Ghz and i7 6700K to 4.7-4.8Ghz. Overclocked performance is key because not only are both of these K series chips meant for this task, but the 5820K starts off at a very low base clock which means it should theoretically benefit much more from overclocking as at stock it's too penalized in IPC by lower clocks. Secondly, please add more multi-tasking benchmarks to show just how much do we actually get from the extra 2 cores. You could also try to do a multi-tasking scenario of using multiple apps like streaming, video encoding and gaming at the same time. I bet if you guys do that the 5820K @ 4.4Ghz will trounce an i7 6700K @ 4.8Ghz.
woah last time i came this early my girlfriend got pregnant
wow
+Bryn Then you made my fucking day, congratz
Last time I came this early the video wasn't over.
+Bryn Then k
+nazo333 Cinema Sins viewer is Cinema Sins viewer.
Awesome. I recall a video you guys made at a tech show, showing the Intel booth displaying a skylake machine. It was showing off it's 4K workflow. I was very impressed with how well that machine was handling the footage, granted I know the rest of the build had a lot to do with that.
With this new comparison, you guys should do a build focusing on 4K editing. I know you know more about it than I, and I would be interested in what you would recommend as a mid-high end build.
I use my PC for editing first, gaming second. Over the last couple of years, the type of build that this type of use translates to has drastically changed.
So, like always, you get an i5 for gaming even if it's clocked lower and a 5820k if you're into other stuff.
Why no 5960x vs 6700k?
+Sengial If you actually decided to watch the video, you'd know. He says it just after 1 minute in..
.-. 5960X, If you can afford it...
+Ironside12 (Scott Hamilton) Hahaha yeah I just saw the title and commented. Sorry
+Sengial Should be asking why no 18 core Xeon
+Street Guru because a e5-2699 v3 vs 6700k/5820k is a stupid test...
Comon guys.... who is going to buy a 5820k and not overclock it? Its stock clock is at 3.3GHz, but most overclock them to 4.5GHz easily. The 6700k has a stock clock of 4GHz, but most only overclock them up to 4.6 or 4.7GHz. Do this test again, but overclock the CPUs (on the same cooler at 75 degrees each on prime95) -- which is the configuration most will use them in.
Please add a correction that the 6700k has 16 PCI Express lanes... ark.intel.com/products/88195/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_20-GHz
However, with the 6700k you can still do 2x SLI with each card at 8x plus a 4x PCIe M.2 Drive (totalling 20x). The difference with Z170 is the M.2 will be routed through DMI and not connected directly to the CPU such as with X99.
Whats with the commentary audio? It's sounds all compressed...
Great comparison. I have an old AMD rig and have wanted to switch to Intel for some time but wasn't sure if going to Skylake was the right choice.
"With the price of DDR4 dropping"
Oh my how things have changed...
I have an idea, you can start taking suggestions of people's comments for the last line in the intro (like the one at 0:41). You can announce if the next episode has a certain theme or it can be random so people can comment.
so what should i get, if i'm a gamer AND video editor?
i7 5820k if you have the money, or even the newer 6800k :)
Are you a professional video editor? If not, save some $$ and grab a 6700k.
yup, i am
+hxhshow9 In that case I would invest in a 5820k or 6800k.
Lucas Hunter hxhshow9 if you can wait zen might be a good option as it will be cheaper and it will probably have more cores for video editing
Let me just adjust the scores as if they were BOTH overclocked. I took 4.4GHz for the 5820k (stat average is 4.5-4.6 so this is lower) and 4.8GHZ for the 6700k (stat average also about 4.6). Basically I'm giving the 6700k a fighting chance. Performance % is the 5820k relative to the 6700k.
Cinebench
5820k scores 1360, 6700k scores 1066. 5820k at 127% performance up from 114% at stock speeds.
7-Zip
5820k scores 40928, 6700k scores 29963. 5820k at 136% performance up from 123% at stock speeds.
Dolphin thing
5820k does 399 seconds, 6700k does 340 seconds. 5820k at 85% performance up from 77% at stock speeds.
Webxpt
5820k scores 493, 6700k scores 527. 5820k at 94% performance up from 84% stock speeds.
So even with a less-likely high OC on the 6700k, a less than average 5820k OC brings single core performance much closer to equal, and then in multi-core applications absolutely crushes the 6700k, and honestly where I live, the x99 setup costs just as much as z170. Basically, buy a 6600k unless you REALLY need more power, the only logical next step up is the 5820k. I've been telling this to people for weeks now.
High end cpus combined with a 980ti should be also combined with a 1440p or 4k res! And what about the minimum fps? Sorry for asking so much :-)
+Makis X-R-T-C I agree with you. Why 1080p if that beast gpu and cpu's can run 4k pretty good
+je moeder op step You can't run more than 30fps on ULTRA at Crysis 3 with a single reference 980ti....maybe zotac amp extreme can.
+Shanks. Bosco 1440p could make a more valid result!
***** on 4K maybe not but on 1080p of course it would BN the 980ti.
Besides an i3 with a 980ti will be a stupid idea, at least an i5
+OAcesync I have a FX 4300, would it bottleneck the gtx970 im planning to get?
Can you make a short video of an overclocker i7 5820k vs an overclocked i7 6700k? Or atleast put up some pics?
The new interior is god awful. Whoever came up with the idea that a set needs to look like an old barn has no taste for good rooms.
Given those prices you quoted, I got a steal on the X99/5820K combo I bought. Add in 16GB RAM and I paid $600 plus sales tax. There are comparable 6700K combinations available as well for a little higher than what I paid for the combo I bought, but the client that is getting the machine I'm building will be needing the higher core/thread count of the 5820K given some of what he wants to get into. Plus a higher core count also means you can run more processes on your system without impacting other processes.
Do this again when DX12 comes out!
+Tryte DX12 is available only with Windows 10 and supported Graphics Card drivers
michael hartman I know..? Your point being?
+Tryte point being it's out
+Jellso m.ign.com/articles/2015/08/17/first-look-at-directx-12-benchmark-results it's out. no games are out for it but it's out
michael hartman I knew I'd get a comment like this, I realise it's out but I mean when games support it. One benchmark isn't enough.
this helped so much. just what I was looking for. please do more comparison videos like this.
The reason I went with a 5820K is the 2 extra cores make the system feel special and it was an extra $20 so...
you're forgetting to account the increased price of the motherboard, X99 motherboards are more expensive my lord.
Junaid Nizami true
Glad to be of servive GABEN!!!
Great comparison ....price difference is not that much
Let's watch a review about some items I'll never be able to afford Great idea brain!
+Numbers drop Really? it's only a few thousand dollars...
+DovahStud or get a job?
So I have a question, knowing lots about hardware and my current needs has led me to make up my mind and be stuck with these 2 choices.
I am majoring in Game Design, so I'm going to be doing lots of texturing, 3D modelling, and all sorts of HEAVY load tasks. Should I go with a higher core count but lower single core performance 5820k? Or should I go the lower core higher single core performance 6700k route?
I'm guessing 5820k, but give me your opinions.
Which would be better for Audio Produciton?
using the 5820K will surely benefit you in every single way, rendering audio tracks is easy now, and is much less time consuming (users experience)
Thanks for your reply. I ended up getting a 6800k X99 chipset. As you said the X99 chipset is much more suited for my needs. Thanks
P Kaos I have got the 6800k too and its brilliant for just 100 bucks more (overclocked to 4,3 GHz with an 280mm Be Quiet Radiator)
Should I get 5820k or 6700k or 6600k for fl studio n ableton (music production). Will 6600k or 6700k enough ??
So stupid comparing high end systems without over clocking them first. What a waste of time, Luke, and you know it.
+Kael some people like don't want to destroy there hardware for 1 fps.
+je moeder op step like me*
+je moeder op step The chance to destroy your hardware with overclocking is near to zero if not a flat zero.
+Kael Totally my point. And in the end, why buying a K chip if you dont overclock.
This should have been tested at same clocks for both chips since the 6700k is 4.2ghz turbo and the 5820k is only 3.6ghz. Both will clock about the same when overclocked so you should simply have ran those test at 4.4 or 4.5 ghz. ( a mr nobody overclock )
***** That depends on coolers though because alot of people buy shit coolers. But why overclock anyway..... You gain almost nothing with it imo
Thanks for this comparison.
From a music production standpoint, X99 is a great platform for use with multi core enabled DAWs & VSTs (with the added expense of a graphics card) but Z170 is now supporting Thunderbolt 3 which has the best low latency for recording/tracking so it ultimately depends on your individual scenario
360 for 6700k? I'm seeing over 400 everywhere.
+Xipo86 trotzdem über 400 Dollar
I got mine for £235 ($340)
Its $290 at micro center xD
is 6700K better than the 5820K and how many virtual core it has?
Raghav Sood in Gaming it's better.
why did you not clock the cpu's at the same speed i think that would have made more sense
I couldn't find a single zed 1 70 on the market. they had a bunch of z 170s though.
you know, zed 170 is how you're supposed to say it
David Huaman No, it is not.
Yes it is, when you say the alphabet you say "zed" not "zee".
+David Huaman no you don't
+David Huaman You must be a Brit.
estas son mis dudas
estoy indeciso si irme por 6700k o por el 5820k
Duda 1- 6700k soporta quad channel? o solo dual channel
Duda 2- En caso de irme por 5820k quiero la tarjeta madre rog strix x99 gaming, pero esta tiene para 8 memorias y la tecnologia es quad channel, mi duda es tengo que comprar 2 kit de quad chanel osea 2 kit 4x2 para sumar 16gb con los dos kit , o un kit de 8x4 ( 8 ram de 4gb) nose si me explique.
mi uso de la pc es editar videos 4k para subir a youtube y para jugar
I really don't like that you compared them on stock speeds. I think a comparison at an average OC speed would be more representative of the real would usage.
+John Doe (Smagjus) I'd rather know what I'm getting right out of the box. Besides, you can OC the 6700K higher than the 5820K, so an average speed wouldn't represent what most people who buy them are going to be running them at.
"Besides, you can OC the 6700K higher than the 5820K" That is exactly my point.
+John Doe (Smagjus) Although you can overclock the 6700k to about 4.6Ghz on average, the 5820k also overclocks to about 4.3Ghz on average, with a sensible amount of volts[~1.3v]. So you could see a 30% improvement on average if you overclock the 5820k, versus 15% for the 6700k, this brings the 5820k much closer to the 6700k in STP, not to mention it pulls ahead like a champ in mulithreaded workloads.
+jenxrj They overclocked 6700k at 6.0.
Cloud VII Now that ain't an average overclock is it? Most people aren't going to get a stable overclock above 4.6ghz[Average sample] to 4.8Ghz[good sample] while keeping the voltage sensible, and not spending too much on cooling.
This should have been tested at same clocks for both chips since the 6700k is 4.2ghz turbo and the 5820k is only 3.6ghz. Both will clock about the same when overclocked so you should simply have ran those test at 4.4 or 4.5 ghz. ( a mr nobody overclock )
Problem.
You didnt overclock. The 5820k is 3.3 ghz, and the 6700k is 4.0 ghz (without counting turbo). Thats NOT a small difference. considering how easily the 5820k overclocks to around 4.5ghz.
The single threaded performance of the 6700k is a joke compared to haswell/devils canyon. Its almost nothing. The real benefits are things you didnt discuss.
I just got the x-99 for my computer build I did last month. It was such an improvement that needed for my video production. Love my setup with 32 gigabytes of ram in four channel mode. Will upgrade in a couple months or so to 64.
So I did good by purchasing a 6600K? YAY!
You sure did buddy 😄
Just paired a 6600k with a 1070. Loving the setup so far!
I'd overclock the CPU to get the most out of that 1070
+Juan Solo I overclocked the everliving shit out of it
+Cyan _ Haha, good to hear! xD
Is my i7-2600 3,8Ghz still a good processor? Back in 2012 it was one of the best but i was wondering how it would do now compared to the 6700K ad 5820K ?
God no, another Luke video.
Luke if Love, Luke is life... But I subbed for Linus so... Yeaaaahhh....
I prefer luke over linus
+TroniX relle?
+BaSkA God no, another BaSkA comment.
I mean, nobody is perfect. Linus, for some reason, uses that text reader which he has to touch every now and then - Luke doesn't. On the other hand, Luke thinks he's funny, and he's not - Linus is hilarious. I like potatoes.
I'm in need of help deciding on a CPU! So the 5820K would be better for music production because of it's 6 cores and 12 threads over the 6700K? Are the differences from a Z170 mobo and an X99 mobo big or need to be taken serious consideration? I'm building a silent music production PC that I will use for some gaming as well. Thanks!
And I'm here with my FX-8320 :C
+(´・ω・`) that's not even a terrible processor.
+je moeder op step Eh it's not all that great at gaming lol, my hopes are on dx12.
(´・ω・`)
good luck with that mate
Ty
Can you guys compare multi-gpu performances, both AMD and Nvidia, between the 5820k and the 6700k? The x800's typically have more pci-e lanes(28 vs 16), which should eventually emerge as advantages over the x700 series compensating with a PEX chip, but the question is, how many gpu's until that difference bears its head.
When you hit bandwidth limitations, it induces frame stuttering, so that should be avoided at all costs.
What is up with those dirty motherboards. Don't you have a clean one that you showcase this stuff with?
Llama indeed that was very cynical. Your name does not lie.
Hearty Oatmeal ahaha :P
+Hearty Oatmeal I should come up with a naming scheme like you two. Lazy Lotte sounds appropriate.
Lotte That was indeed very lazy. Your name does not lie.
Lotte ahahah sounds good :D
Alright I still have a question. Do you necessarily need more cores to run 4k gaming? Why does linus use the cheapest 6-core chip at the making of his 4k build?
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So tell me Luke, what am I missing out on with my overclocked 5960 and overclocked 980Ti's in SLI on a custom cooling loop? Am I still losing frames and can you tell me what hot new piece of tech is utilizing USB3-c?
*THUMBS UP for FALLOUT 4 MODS*
+Don Giovanni I just pre-ordered fallout at JB Hi Fi.
Because you care what I was doing ;-;
+Hearty Oatmeal tell me more
+Hearty Oatmeal JB HIFI is overpriced tho. Could've gotten it cheaper from G2a
+Geralt Of Rivia where the 4K, gsync, 144hz, curved, IPS, 34" monitor tho
Geralt Of Rivia Yeah but aus internet'd have me waiting ~6 months to download
why you not compare z170 and z97?
it's the bigger question.
Thank you guys... Been searching everywhere for X99 compared to Z170 Videos before I buy
Would i regret not paying 50 more $ for the 5820k a year from now?
I wish you would have done the game benchmarks at the same clock speed. I'm going to assume that if you OC'd that 5820k to 4ghz the story would have been different. I'm really stuck in the middle of a debate. I'm upgrading from my old 2600k but I can't really justify moving to another 4 core CPU, with DX12 around the corner. From what I've read about DX12 its going to take better advantage of 6-8 core CPUs.
you should have OC'ed them both to like 4.5 on the i7 5820k and 4.7-4.7 on the 6700k to represent how most people buying $ 300-500 CPU's will actually use them.
If you're just doing web browsing and less intensive things.. Why would you get an I7?
Been trying to find an answer to this question for months. Thanks
Should I go with i7 6700k or 5820k? With the new gtx 1070?
What about the 5930K or the 5960x compared to the 6700K for gaming? Assuming money wasn't a factor
The 6700k beats both at gaming but not productivity.
+SynTavicateT hats not true games like fallout 4 and gta v will configure the extra cores and give you few extra fps
Hello i am building a pc from scratch i am going for a gaming pc. I am asking the ages old question which one is better? I am looking into an sli configuration in the future so thats a factor too. Which one is gonna have more fps? Overall which one is better 5820k or 6700k?
I like the video overall, but you forgot one crucial thing,
i7-6700K clocks are 4GHz/4.2GHz turbo by default, i7-5820K clocks are 3.3GHz/3.6GHz turbo by default;
since I have i7-5820K, I can tell from my own experience it took practically zero effort to push it to rock-solid stable 4.3GHz(all6cores)/4.4GHz(3cores) using ASUS X99-S and air cooler Noctua NH-U14S, and I doubt i7-6700K can be clocked significantly higher than that,
and so in most games which use less cores but high frequency, even the i7-5820K wins (especially because the bigger cpu chip and heatspreader and better TIM help the cpu dissipate heat much more efficiently and so overclock fairly high while keeping temps relatively low)
in streaming/video capture which will be best to run with? I am interested in the msi x99a raider motherboard (8 ddr4 slots up to 128gig ram max) I don't think the 6700 will go into it anyway but graphics card I believe I should get 8gig on that...and have at least 16gig ram to start...then the power supply no less than 850w would prefer 1000w so if and when I upgrade my graphics to the crossfire graphics I won't need to replace the power supply with more power to power the new devices and also throw some more ram in at that time as well...I have a budget of $1300 max so this is me running into issues to get what I want...I like the reviews on the sapphire 8gb graphics card think extreme x and I am also liking the reviews for the kingston fury ram (2x8gb) so that takes me over the top...even with the cheapest case I am still running over my limit...because I am reading all the reviews and watching all the videos of comparison videos to ensure I get what I want and it do what I need...if you watch some of my videos I have on my channel you can see the lag and ever since I took that video I am unable to bet obs to work at all it freezes the video part but you can hear it and that was how it was in the first several attempts to record game play and I finally got it set up right and then IDK what happened and now I can't stream...I got a new laptop a toshiba satellite and was told it could stream and could record etc. but still can't figure out how to set up obs on it yet to try and see if I even need to build/have built a tower which I wouldn't mind doing since I am needing a third computer so me and my two sons can play minecraft together...eventually but not this year I want a fourth so my husband too can be corrupted in playing minecraft soon...anyways thanks for any in put and advice you have for me...maybe I should go with refurbished and find a clearence atx tower and run with it
dude seriously thank you. You made my decision final. can always just youtube whatever tech i need info on or an EXACT comparison and end it with linus and bam. there it is. bench marks and tons of hours of camparing done for me in a quick snippet. THANKS!
Doesn't running quad channel reduce your overall performance? The memory controller has to write to 4 different modules as opposed to just 2.. Or have components gotten to the point to where it such a small amount it isn't worth worrying about? I'm currently upgrading to Z170 with skylake, and I had opted for dual channel for this reason.
Now u need to do a 4770k, 4790k, 4960x, 6700k, 5820k, 5930k, 5960x showdown. Give all of them 16 GB of Corsair Dominator Platinum RAM at 2400 MHZ, either DRR3/4 respectively. Paired with a 970, 970 2 way SLI, 980, 980 2 way SLI, 980Ti, 980Ti 2 way SLI, Titan X, Titan X 2 way SLI. For the hard drive give them 730 series SSDs.
Will you be able to use the 6950x on the Z170 chipset? I built my rig in November and will be looking to upgrade in a few years, so I want to know if I should get the extreme cpu or x99
I think it would be interesting to have some sort of building competition featuring some of the other guys (like teams) or a competition limited to only LMG-owned hardware (like an office scavenger hunt build.)
Great video, I have been researching both these CPU and I'm still not sure which way to go. I need something for 3D animation render, 3D cad/cam work and 3D photo rendering. I have a I have a GTX 980ti which helps but I want to upgrade or build a newer dominant PC. Can you tell me which would be better for my needs? Thanks
In Atilla Total War, can you do a 30K unit test or a 40K unit test to compare with each processor?
Nice video Luke
5820k owner here, built my X99 rig Sep 1st 2014. Running 5820k stable 24/7 1.35v @ 4.4ghz and 16gb DDR4-3000. 6700k is a really nice CPU, but it simply wasn't available over a year ago when I upgraded. As a gamer if I was buying today I would probably get a 6700k and push for 4.7ghz. A year ago my rig was justified because it seemed like DX12 was really going to see a big boost for 6 core CPUs. Now it does not look that way and it's still a ways off before we have any retail DX12 titles.
Yes, more content like Scrapyard Wars would be good. I don't have a specific format to suggest, but anything that has you and your friends questing around the province would be sure to entertain.
The videos that are most fun to watch are the ones you have the most fun making, for example failing to destroy two consecutive generations of Dell XPS laptops with rainwater. Keep goofing off and filming it, I'll keep watching.
Im using an ASUS X99 Deluxe board with an i7 5930k and 32GB DDR4 memory in quad channel with a GTX1080. No complaints from me...
Thank you for this video Linus had this doubt , but really I stay in 1150 still do not see the need to change. Greetings from Argentina
So is it still worth to buy a non DDR5 motherboard when i want top gaming performance for the next 5 Years? Or isnt that really important for gaming wheter you have a DDR3 or 4 setup?
Good comparison. And thanks for the 4K videos! :-)
Selfish request that others may want too - A video going over whether Win10 is professional ready - I know a general review went out I think, but would be nice to know if the upgrade is stable enough for "work" PCs (would like to know compatibility specifically with current versions of 3ds max, Photoshop, xNormal, etc. or what ever common programs people might use). Doesn't need to cover my specific program use, can just be a general 'is it "worth" the hassle' for people dependent on stability - at some point in the months leading up to the close off date for people with the option to upgrade for free.
If I plan on streaming and recording CSGO (which is very multicore friendly) I should get the 5820k correct?
Z170 or x99?
I like to edit videos
And
I like to game on pc
But the amount of editing and gaming is the same.
What should i choose is the z170 feature proof?
JesseR25NL if I was you I'd wait for Zen which will come out around 17th January. It's 8 core will be 300 USD and it will match the 5960x, if not better.
I'm more curious as to how well they perform when both are overclocked to 4.6ghz. comparing stock to stock is kinda silly when there is a 700mhz gap to start.
Nice video!
Is it worth getting a x99 board if you are upgrading any way! with a 6700k, just for the extra features?🤔
not worth from i7-6700k for gaming and such, but x99 is worth it if you're a content creator and you're buying the 6900k or 5960x
OK thanks for your help😊
x99 doesn't support 6700k.
you can't put a 6700k on a x99 board. it has a different cpu socket with more pins.
in my opinion it is worth putting a 6800k on a x99 board. the price difference is like ~50$ and you get quad channel memory and a 6 core processor with a higher quality chipset and things.
Judging by the early VR SLI tests it looks like x99's x16/x16 pcie3.0 actually might provide a tangible benefit to performance. When you've only got ~11ms to render and output a frame, having to waste a couple milliseconds transferring even half a frame between the GPUs substantially impacts the potential scaling you get from SLI. If you're planning on doing SLI + VR it'd be a good idea to do your homework and perhaps sit on your cash for a while longer yet until the API landscape has settled a bit.
hey guys i want to buy processor right now what processor u recommend me??
5820K vs 6700K thanks for answer :)
I would have much rather liked to see the clock speeds on the processors matched. The 5820k and 6700k are different at stock (3.3GHz vs 4.0GHz). Since they can reach pretty much identical overclocks, a balanced clock speed would be a better test imo.
What i'm actually waiting for after seeing this is doing a comparison based on PC's who got stream games and play them at the same time. Loads of streamers use capture cards but for those who don't want that, it would be interesting to know. What to go with. (though I7 or AMD FX8350 or later) is usually recommended.