Welcome Back to "Vallone's RC Hobby." In this video we take out the WLTOYS 104001 for my 3rd Speed run, this time we upgrade to a 3650 5900kv motor with a 28t pinion gear and still keeping the GOOLRC 60amp ESC. Order this Buggy HERE! shop.makerfire.com/products/wltoys-104001-car?_pos=2&_sid=79616cc4f&_ss=r&fbclid=IwAR1Ys1J5gzvDZWg_QiW6mfhCXT_Tf5hzjxLWk_GU0m2Y3dJ5cakI_FiXkxs Save 7% with Coupon Code ChrisVallone Parts Upgrade: 5900kv Brushless Motor amzn.to/2QYmHt4 28T .6 Pinion ruclips.net/video/FDbNiEaqsT0/видео.html GoolRC ESC w Programming card amzn.to/3oV1tcc GoolRC transmitter amzn.to/3f31Vk3 3s ZEEE Lipo Batteries amzn.to/34k0d8L Also, check out the new Carbon Fiber Chassis Upgrade HERE WLToys 104001 Carbon fiber upgrade parts 💥$52.99💥 Code：MKFRC7 Save 7% OFF Ends: 10.5.2021 Order link: bit.ly/3uvCUVe
@@captainflannel8558 Yes I know. I have Bigger fish to fry, my VW restoration business has seen some of the best years, so I am super busy with that, I was dedicating too much time away from my clients with the RC stuff, I had to put my priorities in check. I may pick it back up in the future.
thanks for the detailed breakdown on pinion gears! really helped to make it clear for me what range to get for the brushless upgrade. much appreciated!
thank you for being honest, other RUclipsrs won't tell you what they have inside because they usually are around other racers and other racers might watch your video to see what you are packing in order to beat you they are not shady they just want to keep it a secret for the competition not the viewers. dont blame them I've been there when there's money on stakes some people act weird and crazy for it.
Wow bro great video thank you so much for the info and keeping everything simple. And good ideas for batteries and the pinion gear I have my 104001 also I'm looking for good on road tires so I will be looking forward to seeing your next video👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
well the 2s that comes with the car does just fine I think. As far as 3s? Check roaring top for their batteries, they may have something that can fit in that tray.
i wonder if you could just install 2 shock towers glued together for super strength??? and the fex in chassis i am sure is a very easy fix... i wonder with 5900kv if stock pinion on 2s would do well?? maybe 45 mph on 2s? thanks for sharing
I got a nice cheap setup thats performing really well. Surpass hobby esc (uses the same programmer as goulRC escs), metal servo, Brushless motor 3900kv all for 40 bucks, and a dumborc radio set with gyro for another 35ish. Running 3s its a rocket, 2s its stable and fast. For the bend get the carbon kit and put it all on, and use the carbon AND aluminum pieces for the front center brace(they stack with the plastic y shape piece and fit together nicely) try it, you'll like it.
Great work Vallone, very thourough and informative. I subed for this car, hope to see it reach 100mph. Thinking of buying one. Wonder a front spoiler could be fitted to keep the front down?
@@VallonesRCHobby I like the stock body but was just seeing what options were out there. Thanks too for the suggestion. I will probly try 1 from phat bodies thanx!!
Very nice setup!...Does it have good power out of the hole on 2s? Using that 31 pinion did you have to modify motor mount at all? I am asking because i finally got back into rc cars and have this one on the way..i think 50mph on 2s is very impressive and am leaning to your exact setup...just wonder if using stock pinion may be better option since 45 mph top speed would be incredible on 2s also...thanks for sharing..
in a stock setup, its ok out of the box, a little under powered in my opinion. There was very little to no mods to put the other pinion in, maybe just some motor adjustment. I can''t remember off hand if it had an adjustable motor mount.
I watched afew vids...i decided on sticking with stock pinion ,60 amp surpass esc ,4500kv...expecting close to 40mph with stock 2s..thanks for the help..😊
So, wondering if you'll see this and reply. I have this build and put in a Kingval 3650 5900kv with a 60a brushless sensorless quicrun esc. It is fast, but definitely doesn't hit 60mph. Could it be because I only have a 60a esc? Just installed a fan for the motor too. Want it to be faster.
Love ur videos! Where do you recommend to get a different pinion like the 28T.6, the link takes us back to this video. Also are there other batteries maybe with higher mAh that will work safe with this setup. Thanks.
@@nitetimebolher I figured it did not hurt to have the fan. I was going up in pinion, so you have to watch heat. Any fan that can go around a 3650 motor works. I picked this one up cheap on eBay.
Yeah man I am doing good, I had to stop the channel for a bit as my VW business is real busy, and it needs my attention everyday. I am trying to move from NY to Florida, so I am trying to finalize things here before I go. I would love to come back, gotta see how things play out. But I am here man! Thanks for reaching out.
So is it the 28T or 29t pinion that starts to rub the cover? I want to run all the stock cover with out any rubbing what size pinion would you suggest? Also if I keep increasing the kv of a motor say put a 7000kv in would it still be ok on 2 and 3 s with a 120aesc or could I get away with a 60a? I want to be able to push it up to 70-80 eventually. Thanks for any info you can provide. I just want to order the right size pinion to fit first
I appreciate that thank you, yeah I had to step away for a bit as my Classic VW BuGs biz has gotten super busy. The classic car market has really gotten hot as of late. So my attention needs to be there. Plus I am looking to move outta NY state next year, so there is a lot on my plate right now. I am hoping to come back in the future.
@@classicvwbugs Well that’s good to hear. Always worry about illness now days with people. Glad you and family are well. Enjoy the car blitz while it’s here. Hope everything goes well with the move. Take care.
What this needs is a shell with aerodynamics that handle speed runs better. That whale tail is probably causing drag and contributing to the lifting of the nose. First of all, this buggy is just a knock off of some other company's design so we know that no thought was given to the aerodynamics of the thing. Second, the model they copied is a track racing buggy, so the speeds they run at during the race are different from a speed run. The faster you go, the more down force you need to keep the buggy from lifting. Driftomaniacs has modded a front wing to his buggies to keep the nose down while RC Master just does it by adding a second battery to make it heavier while giving more power. If you're going with the budget route, modding a front wing would be cheaper, but I wish more YTers would try modding speed run shells to the 104001 platform. This would definitely improve handling better and allow them to more easily go at full throttle.
what is your opinion on these guys completely taking apart diffs to add grease... i have been a mechanic etc for over 40 years and to me unless the grease is nasty or crap... for adding more grease i would just remove the 4 screws and add grease with a popsicle stick and screw plate back on... your thoughts... i see some say grease would not cover gears etc...this makes no sense to me at all.... again if you feel the grease in diff is garbage yes taking it apart makes sense... but this wltoys is not a real race car... your views on this??? thanks again for all your no bs rc car video's... :)
Honestly, I agree with you, I do not really think you need to pack the diffs. I guess it really depends on what you plan on using the car for, and how hard you are gonna use it. If you plan on bashing off road, then maybe some better grease is good in the diffs, but I do not think you need to pack it. If you are doing speed runs, more grease I think is not going to help any. Greased diffs would work for bashing more than speed runs from my understanding, the gears engage more on turns. As long as the gears have some grease on em, I think you are good, packing I think might be overkill.
@@VallonesRCHobby and even if you pack them i see no reason to take them apart..grease will get everywhere real fast. in both my 144001's i never even checked them...they are great..very smooth...years ago with kits we hardly used any grease as far i i can remember,,,thanks for sharing..
@@roadstar499 I agree, I think it might be a lil over rated. Many times it is just a topic to talk about, other channels try to make it sound important. =)
Welcome Back to "Vallone's RC Hobby."
In this video we take out the WLTOYS 104001 for my 3rd Speed run, this time we upgrade to a 3650 5900kv motor with a 28t pinion gear and still keeping the GOOLRC 60amp ESC.
Order this Buggy HERE! shop.makerfire.com/products/wltoys-104001-car?_pos=2&_sid=79616cc4f&_ss=r&fbclid=IwAR1Ys1J5gzvDZWg_QiW6mfhCXT_Tf5hzjxLWk_GU0m2Y3dJ5cakI_FiXkxs
Save 7% with Coupon Code ChrisVallone
Parts Upgrade:
5900kv Brushless Motor amzn.to/2QYmHt4
28T .6 Pinion ruclips.net/video/FDbNiEaqsT0/видео.html
GoolRC ESC w Programming card amzn.to/3oV1tcc
GoolRC transmitter amzn.to/3f31Vk3
3s ZEEE Lipo Batteries amzn.to/34k0d8L
Also, check out the new Carbon Fiber Chassis Upgrade HERE
WLToys 104001 Carbon fiber upgrade parts 💥$52.99💥
Code：MKFRC7 Save 7% OFF Ends: 10.5.2021
Order link: bit.ly/3uvCUVe
givin up on rc content already ? been couple months
@@captainflannel8558 Yes I know. I have Bigger fish to fry, my VW restoration business has seen some of the best years, so I am super busy with that, I was dedicating too much time away from my clients with the RC stuff, I had to put my priorities in check. I may pick it back up in the future.
Great video. What is the charge and run times for this setup?
@@luvnher87 Well charge depends on your charger really, but runtime, maybe 15 min.
Thank you and one last question, is this setup ok for grass/dirt applications?
thanks for the detailed breakdown on pinion gears! really helped to make it clear for me what range to get for the brushless upgrade. much appreciated!
You are very welcome
Things have changed alot since my days
All my knowledge would be useless today's tech. Great channel
Yes, but within 6 months you'll be caught up. It's faster than nitro, and less work.
@@RCOverKill my biggest thing is time. Thanks for commenting
They're awesome buggies. They are almost an exact copy of an Xray and LC racing buggy.
Super content love the runs love the budget build kept it nice and simple You restored my interest in getting a 104
awesome man!
That is INSANE!! I did not even see it on the first pass. I feel the NEED for SPEED. OK - honestly, tooooo fast for my speed. Great vid on this!
Indonesia here buddy
😍😍😍
Watching u'r video with a cup coffe, very enjoy 😁
Very cool, thank you!
Awsome my friend u are kicking but with that setup
Hey thanks so much! =)
Holy cow man I don’t even see it on my phone and I have a plus screen lol
Haha, yeah it was pretty quick. Can't wait to try it with the on road tires I got.
That's impressive even on 2s very nice run for sure great day info and video
Thanks!
thank you for being honest, other RUclipsrs won't tell you what they have inside because they usually are around other racers and other racers might watch your video to see what you are packing in order to beat you they are not shady they just want to keep it a secret for the competition not the viewers. dont blame them I've been there when there's money on stakes some people act weird and crazy for it.
Cool vidéo my friend 🇫🇷
Awesome man, thanks.
Wow bro great video thank you so much for the info and keeping everything simple. And good ideas for batteries and the pinion gear I have my 104001 also I'm looking for good on road tires so I will be looking forward to seeing your next video👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
well the 2s that comes with the car does just fine I think. As far as 3s? Check roaring top for their batteries, they may have something that can fit in that tray.
Nice speed runs. 💯👍🏻👍🏻
Man i just found the best rc channel 😁 i liked the intro , i dint like hiding setups ether
I'm waiting on parts I'm basically going with your same set up with the exception of a 120amp esc and a 33 tooth pinion hope to have good results.
Congrats on 5k subs!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thank you!
i wonder if you could just install 2 shock towers glued together for super strength??? and the fex in chassis i am sure is a very easy fix... i wonder with 5900kv if stock pinion on 2s would do well?? maybe 45 mph on 2s? thanks for sharing
Eh, maybe bolt the towers together somehow, I would not use glue. Yeah I think 45 is about right on 25 with stock pinion.
thanks for sharing this build!!
You bet. =) thanks for watching.
You doing a lot of work mate!🙂👍👍
ha, I'm trying my friend! =)
I got a nice cheap setup thats performing really well. Surpass hobby esc (uses the same programmer as goulRC escs), metal servo, Brushless motor 3900kv all for 40 bucks, and a dumborc radio set with gyro for another 35ish. Running 3s its a rocket, 2s its stable and fast.
For the bend get the carbon kit and put it all on, and use the carbon AND aluminum pieces for the front center brace(they stack with the plastic y shape piece and fit together nicely) try it, you'll like it.
Oh nice, what are your speeds? Stock pinion?
I am new to all this.... what does 2s and 3s mean?
oh wait, he explained in the video.... hahahahaha
Great work Vallone, very thourough and informative. I subed for this car, hope to see it reach 100mph. Thinking of buying one. Wonder a front spoiler could be fitted to keep the front down?
you could, sure, I have seen guys do it.
Awesome job with the buggy!!! The setup runs fast and holds the road great!!! Can u think of any body alternatives for this buggy? Thanks n good day!!
Ah that is a good question! Might have to look into "phat bodies" and see if they have anything. You don't like the body on this?
@@VallonesRCHobby I like the stock body but was just seeing what options were out there. Thanks too for the suggestion. I will probly try 1 from phat bodies thanx!!
Very nice setup!...Does it have good power out of the hole on 2s? Using that 31 pinion did you have to modify motor mount at all? I am asking because i finally got back into rc cars and have this one on the way..i think 50mph on 2s is very impressive and am leaning to your exact setup...just wonder if using stock pinion may be better option since 45 mph top speed would be incredible on 2s also...thanks for sharing..
in a stock setup, its ok out of the box, a little under powered in my opinion. There was very little to no mods to put the other pinion in, maybe just some motor adjustment. I can''t remember off hand if it had an adjustable motor mount.
I watched afew vids...i decided on sticking with stock pinion ,60 amp surpass esc ,4500kv...expecting close to 40mph with stock 2s..thanks for the help..😊
I definitely love the sound of the engine during the speed runs, so regular and hissing. My built sounds as it should explode in a while. 🙂
So, wondering if you'll see this and reply.
I have this build and put in a Kingval 3650 5900kv with a 60a brushless sensorless quicrun esc. It is fast, but definitely doesn't hit 60mph. Could it be because I only have a 60a esc? Just installed a fan for the motor too. Want it to be faster.
Might have to gear it up, just gotta be careful tho with heat at that point.
@@classicvwbugs what do you mean by gear it up? Bigger pinion? I'm using a 29t at the moment.
@@classicvwbugs it has a max amp rating of 107a 8.4v, and 900 watts
@@GilbeRex Yes exactly. Hmmm29t is already high maybe. You may have to go 120a esc and try a 30-32t
How's the bottle end on this set up? Will it still thrash on dirt and grass?
It will, but be mindful, this setup is for speed runs. Might overheat off road.
I'm going to try this same set up with a 120 amp esc with a 33 tooth pinion
Love ur videos! Where do you recommend to get a different pinion like the 28T.6, the link takes us back to this video. Also are there other batteries maybe with higher mAh that will work safe with this setup. Thanks.
My bad, just fixed it, here ya go usa.banggood.com/custlink/mmvELsyqMV
as far as batteries, the tray I find limiting, but you can make some adjustments and maybe fit a 3200mah 2s in there?
Awesome thnx! I'm definitely gonna try it out. What type of servo would u recommend for this build?
Also do u think the fan is necessary for the motor? What kind would u recommend, thanks again!
@@nitetimebolher I figured it did not hurt to have the fan. I was going up in pinion, so you have to watch heat. Any fan that can go around a 3650 motor works. I picked this one up cheap on eBay.
66 is impressive, already on 4s with a mod1 spool some have hit 99mph.
That's nutty. Which channels have hit that?
hello .. have you changed other parts ..... I played 30mn and the 2 differential out of order pinion transmission shaft in crumbs
I have not had to, no.
very good, have you tried it with 33t pinion?
Ha yeah, I cogged and esc became puffy!
Chris just wanted to check if you are OK as we have not heard from you for a few months. ❤️
Yeah man I am doing good, I had to stop the channel for a bit as my VW business is real busy, and it needs my attention everyday. I am trying to move from NY to Florida, so I am trying to finalize things here before I go. I would love to come back, gotta see how things play out. But I am here man! Thanks for reaching out.
Great build. What center bore size of that pinion?
3.175mm
@@VallonesRCHobby thank you for the info and thank you for being transparent with your upgrades. You truly add to the RC community.
@@dubaudiproject861 You bet my friend!
So is it the 28T or 29t pinion that starts to rub the cover?
I want to run all the stock cover with out any rubbing what size pinion would you suggest?
Also if I keep increasing the kv of a motor say put a 7000kv in would it still be ok on 2 and 3 s with a 120aesc or could I get away with a 60a?
I want to be able to push it up to 70-80 eventually.
Thanks for any info you can provide.
I just want to order the right size pinion to fit first
Haven’t seen you post anything in a while. Hope everything is ok. Love your reviews. 👍🏻
I appreciate that thank you, yeah I had to step away for a bit as my Classic VW BuGs biz has gotten super busy. The classic car market has really gotten hot as of late. So my attention needs to be there. Plus I am looking to move outta NY state next year, so there is a lot on my plate right now. I am hoping to come back in the future.
@@classicvwbugs Well that’s good to hear. Always worry about illness now days with people. Glad you and family are well. Enjoy the car blitz while it’s here. Hope everything goes well with the move. Take care.
@@jjtsht I appreciate that man, thanks! Are you looking for any RCs? I have some I need to sell. LMK.
@@classicvwbugs , I don’t think so. But let me know what you’ve got. Selling on eBay? Got stuff listed ?
@@jjtsht Nothing listed, but I have some Vintage Tamiya stuff I am looking to sell. Are you into those?
🇺🇸🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥thank you for this wonderful video 👍👍👍👍🔥🏎💨
What size are the ball bearings that sits the spur in place
Want to ask, 28T(0.6) pinion, spur use stock right?
can i use 3s on my surpass 3650 5900kv? even if its max voltage was about 8.4v?
You should be able to. What pinion are you using?
What this needs is a shell with aerodynamics that handle speed runs better. That whale tail is probably causing drag and contributing to the lifting of the nose. First of all, this buggy is just a knock off of some other company's design so we know that no thought was given to the aerodynamics of the thing. Second, the model they copied is a track racing buggy, so the speeds they run at during the race are different from a speed run. The faster you go, the more down force you need to keep the buggy from lifting. Driftomaniacs has modded a front wing to his buggies to keep the nose down while RC Master just does it by adding a second battery to make it heavier while giving more power. If you're going with the budget route, modding a front wing would be cheaper, but I wish more YTers would try modding speed run shells to the 104001 platform. This would definitely improve handling better and allow them to more easily go at full throttle.
Is there any cogging issues with this set up?
A little yes
How's the acceleration at 28 tooth
what amps of esc do u used?
Cool rc channel
thank you my friend!
Where do you got the motor mount?
banggood
@@classicvwbugs can you send link?
Would that motor handle 4s
Possibly, not sure for how long tho
3s 5900KV 60A ok?
I got 48mph on 2s mod1 40 spur 20 pinion.
Not bad bad. Where did you buy the mod1 stuff?
@@classicvwbugs the center diff is for Redcat earthquake and 40t spur for terramoto. All in video for part numbers
Why not put a 3670 in there?
what is your opinion on these guys completely taking apart diffs to add grease... i have been a mechanic etc for over 40 years and to me unless the grease is nasty or crap... for adding more grease i would just remove the 4 screws and add grease with a popsicle stick and screw plate back on... your thoughts... i see some say grease would not cover gears etc...this makes no sense to me at all.... again if you feel the grease in diff is garbage yes taking it apart makes sense... but this wltoys is not a real race car... your views on this??? thanks again for all your no bs rc car video's... :)
Honestly, I agree with you, I do not really think you need to pack the diffs. I guess it really depends on what you plan on using the car for, and how hard you are gonna use it. If you plan on bashing off road, then maybe some better grease is good in the diffs, but I do not think you need to pack it. If you are doing speed runs, more grease I think is not going to help any. Greased diffs would work for bashing more than speed runs from my understanding, the gears engage more on turns. As long as the gears have some grease on em, I think you are good, packing I think might be overkill.
@@VallonesRCHobby and even if you pack them i see no reason to take them apart..grease will get everywhere real fast. in both my 144001's i never even checked them...they are great..very smooth...years ago with kits we hardly used any grease as far i i can remember,,,thanks for sharing..
@@roadstar499 I agree, I think it might be a lil over rated. Many times it is just a topic to talk about, other channels try to make it sound important. =)
please next video with bigger tires..