Are the Toronto Maple Leafs upgrades to blue line enough to be competitive next season?
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- Опубликовано: 8 окт 2024
- Did the Toronto Maple Leafs do enough upgrades on the blue line to be in a better position to compete next season? Mike DiStefano and David Morassutti debate whether the Leafs have done enough with their defence to get themselves in a position to compete further in the playoffs and what areas they are still lacking. They take a look at how the pairings could shape up and wonder if Craig Berube and his staff consider anything different. To end the show, Mike and Dave discuss a trade idea that was floated on the Steve Dangle Podcast involving Mitch Marner. On the next show they will discuss the departure of Wes Clark as that was announced after recording.
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With regards to the defensive lines, don’t forget that there is no rule that I know about in the NHL that say “thou shalt not change up lines during a hockey game. We could very well see Tanev and Reilly be a pair for 80% of the time, and see Tanev and McCabe out for the final 2 minutes of a game with a 1 goal lead, or Reilly and OEL/Liljegren if we are down by 1 in the final 5 minutes. I do like that we now have a little more of this flexibility behind us. And you have to remember, we are stacked up front. Everyone says we need more goal scoring, but we were on the top 5 in the league for goals 4 in the regular season. Everyone says “well we fall off in the playoffs”. You’re not wrong, but that’s not because we have shit forwards. The talent is there. The issue is how they are ran, which might be fixed by a different coaching style. Also, our defence and goaltending sucked. It’s hard to get into the game when the other team scores 2 goals in the first 5 shots then locks down their end of the ice, or when we spend 5 straight minutes in our own zone because we can’t get the puck past center ice. The goaltending and defensive rebuild we did this year should fix these issues. This should allow our forwards more time in the offensive zone where they can do their job.
Even next year it will still be Mathew’s Marner and nylander with John t on a bit of a lower cap and that is how it’s going to be.
Blue line definitely appears better on paper. I do believe personally people need to stop complaining about Bertuzzi walking and not adding a forward(s). Forward is not where we needed to add, not to mention we have internal competition with the young fellas.
The core four hasn't got it done in 7 years, barely made the 2nd round, what makes you think they are better? Muzzin was better than Tanev and he couldn't get them past the 1st round, OEL is worst than Bushkin worst than Schenn maybe worst than Holl, they spent a ton of picks on rentals(RR a good forward is one) trying, still nuthin. No, they need a rebuild now, a retool should have happened before the nmcs kicked in.
Great seeing you on OD. AL’s brother is a genius 😊
Let’s see what Cade Webber and Philippe Myers look like. No more smurfs ala Victor Mete 🙏
The discussion on D pairings was interesting. I've always seen the fit of OEL and McCabe - they're almost Reilly and Tanev light. The Tanev McCabe discussion was a consideration of a standard lineup vs situational combinations. 45 seconds to go in the third, up by a goal and the opponent has pulled the goalie ... bring on Tanev/McCabe! You'd have to play them together enough to get the feel of one another, but I don't think I could see this as a standard pairing. Also, no one seems to be mentioning that Reilly, paired with Tanev, and OEL, paired with McCabe, should be able to add offence from the back end - this has been as big an issue as the D's ability to defend.
Marner for Necas straight up .... before I say "have you lost your f*&king mind", lets remember we're saying this on July 11th, and today, there is no other impact player to go out and get with what you save by paying Necas vs Marner. Now, if it was June 23rd, and you had a tentative deal in place with Jake Guentzel and could manage the cap impact .... well that's a whole different discussion. Then you've flipped Marner for Necas and Guentzel. We didn't or couldn't act while the window was open. The problem is not Marner, its roster construction, and we have let the free agency period move by us, so there is no longer any opportunity to make the changes required to fix roster construction. Anyone suggesting they would do this deal now, is really answering a question about why they're incapable of being a GM.
There's a lot of stupid talk about Marner. People need to remember that he is not the problem ... never has been. The problem is that Dubas paid too much individualy and collectively to four players who are all forwards and usually play with one another. One of them - AM - would be stupid to trade. The other three? You could get rid of any one of them and create better balance by adding a really good forward and a top two D-man with what you saved by subtracting one player and another spare part.
I think the D is better. But last year, I thought the Leafs were just inside the top ten teams. Now, I think maybe top seven/eight. The thing that seperates the Leafs from the Panthers or the Knights, or the Oilers or the Avs? They are less courageous and less willing to do WHATEVER needs to be done to win now.
If hakanpaa plays he is wsy better than lybushkin hakanpaa was playing 17-19 minutes a night against the best players on pk and on second paring
Then why didn’t Dallas just keep Hakanpaa?
@@SF1886 because they probably don't think he can play again because his injury might be to bad
@@SF1886 that's why I . Said if he plays he is better he might not play we don't know yet
I think most here are underestimating the loss of Edmonston. I would have let Liligreen go and kept him. But thats me😮
They would need to thow on couple first round picks or prospects or something because he get half the trade done if that he not what we need not very good in my opinion
I would try :
OEL with Riley (2nd pair)
McCabe with Tanev (1st pair)
TL with Benoit. (3rd pair)
If Reilly can improve on his career -9 rating then maybe, just maybe the D might be better. Trade Marner a career +110 a two time First Team All Star and a definite top 10-15 player in the NHL for Necas a career +20 who averages about 10 mins/game played less than Marner? The way the media has treated Marner I would be happy to see him play out his time then sign somewhere else. The Moronto Media did the same to Kadri. As for Marner not performing in the playoffs, who’s the Leafs leading point getter in the playoffs? Saravelli is a moron.
Nice agree %100
It's not imperative nor is it realistic for them to win a Marner trade. Talking about who wins a deal I always feel is ridiculous. Both teams in a trade have different needs so it's usually not an apples to apples comparison. Getting a good player back AND just as importantly getting cap relief is the goal. They must fix this ridiculous salary distribution so they can build a better balanced lineup!
Capfriendly is now gone ☠️ 😭
No
Necas plus $5m in cap space is a good deal for Marner. And no Mitch is not all world. What the heck are Leaf fans smoking?