Update: TikTok resumed U.S. operations after a 14-hour blackout that began Saturday night due to a new law requiring its separation from ByteDance. While President-elect Trump's Truth Social post promising to pause the law allowed web hosts to restore service, TikTok's future remains uncertain. The app is still unavailable on Apple and Google app stores, preventing new downloads, updates, and in-app purchases.
TikTok was sold to Meta. Zuckerberg, Shou, Musk, Trump, Bezos and the rest have colluded together to sell America to the highest bidder. Welcome to the oligarchy. TikTok died on January 18th 2025, what you are using now is NOT TikTok, delete it now for your own safety. Their servers have been migrated to Meta.
Wealth inequality, stagnant wages, greedflation, school pew-pews, social safety nets being removed, tax cuts for the rich, insane investments in law enforcement & army, student debts, hiring external cheap labor instead of domestic, etc etc. Government: "Why do they hate us?"
If only someone could change this with elections. Whats that? People are too apathetic to give a shit? Whats that? Kamala and Trump are both equally bad? Whats that? Trump won 🙀😮😯🤯😱😲🫢
It's worth noting that Pelosi, Schumer, Romney, and Biden, as well as all the leadership on both sides, said images of the Gazan g_nocide were a Tik Tok conspiracy by China. Meanwhile, CNN lied about it for a year, the New York Times is still lying, and Rachel Maddow didn't even cover it for the first 13 months. 🫠 And Schumer said, "Maybe we should sell it to Meta!!!" Meta, by the way, who blocked Facebook and Instagram posts from inside of Palestine. I think we need to take a long look at this and realize our active complicity in the BS by whining over who gets to censor what. We did a g_nocide. In broad daylight. And we're going to, "But Tiananmen Square killed hundreds of people." I know. It's disgusting. And the US government just murdered between 40,000-180,000 civiliana. Not to mention the hundreds of thousands dead from the Iraq War. It's kind of delusional how broken we are as Americans, especially now that the centrist Democrats have made politics an inane team sport. You don't get to be the good guys by joining a team. You have to earn it. Democrats learned that the hard way and then seem actively trying to pretend they didn't.
While on paper we live in a representative democracy, the truth is we do live in an oligarchy which is bordering on a corporatocracy. Which is the result of late-stage capitalism
When you attempt to protect your religion by refusing to teach critical thinking skills, you become susceptible to all propaganda, not just the info you want people to believe. Teach young people HOW to think, not WHAT to think.
This was my takeaway. These people are unable to use multiple sources to give context to what they are finding out. Indeed have they been living under a rock, not even understanding the irony of the app being called Little Red Book?
What's so funny is Americans talking about how much better China's style of healthcare is and no one told them that other countries have better healthcare than they do. It's like hello????!!! Did the past 100 or so years not exist? People around the world have been vocally shocked and appalled by the state of your healthcare, you just refused to listen to us for decades and decades and decades.
@@muadhnate They literally come to Canada to get medications if they can because the price is lower due to government regulations, too. There is no way they didn't know.
@@incineroar9933 Yeah, but American propoganda also continually asserts that Canadian healthcare is broken and that people die waiting for care (as opposed to dying because their claim is denied). Plus any discussion of comparative healthcare always has to bring up ‘Canadians have to travel to the US for some treatments so that proves the US system is better’, while ignoring that Canadians will still pay less.
An American user went on RedNote and said, "Hey, Chinese people! Tell me your meanest joke about Americans!" Very first reply: "Why do Americans eat like your healthcare is free?" 🤣🤣🤣
@@The_Black_Caps A barracker for Australian and New Zealand Cricket-HELZZ YEAH!!! I live in North Carolina and enjoy T-20 cricket. We have a huge population of Indian and Pakistanis here and T-20 cricket is played quite often on any given weekend by local teams at recreation parks and we had a Major League Cricket tournament here last July that aired around the world on Willow TV in the next town over called Morrisville. It's even called the MCG-LOL!!! We even have a developmental Aussie Rules Football team called the Carolina Tigers Sponsored by the Richmond Tigers and a rugby team called the Raleigh Vipers. I enjoy watching rugby and Aussie rules much more than our American code of football-YAWN!!!
@@TravisTarrant yoooo never in a million years would I have expected to meet a cricket fan here but this is amazing hehe, made mah day,also glad to know y'all enjoy it in the US too 🥶 and yesss Aussie rules footy is deffo way more entertaining lmfaoooo
The politburo lives high on the hog, gets its own organic fresh food and high living nobody else gets. Even the Moon cakes sold on the street can have cotton in the middle
That's what people don't understand. They want to use their new boo (China) to make their old boo mad (US). All they did was make more people millionaires and billionaires. It's goofy. Like make an effort to really understand the lives of the avg Chinese citizen. Learn Mandarin to learn about people. Stop being superficial. Everything is about the market. Ugh. I have so many thoughts.
@@rongravelle603 High on the hog and corrupt, hiding millions of dollars overseas. Xi is trying to stop the exodus of money, but it's a little too late.
Yeah, these Tik Tok people are like the mirror image of Tucker Carlson in the Russian grocery store. The grass is greener on the other side, they think, but it really isn’t.
@@marykayewaterson6771some people that live in my town want to defund public schools. Yet out town has the lowest test scores. We are so screwed. Sadly the weak and defenseless are always the victims. Please pray for us.
We're screwed when so many people are this desperate to stay on social media that they'll go to the shadiest looking app ever just to stay in their addiction. And not only that but also vote for a creep like trump just cause he said he'd stop the ban.
RedNote's helping me re-learn my Chinese and giving me a look at the lives of people I've always been told were brainwashed puppets. RedNote isn't a perfect app, but if you use it in moderation and know yourself enough to stop, it's pretty sweet.
@@moonlightrobbery And exactly how likely is the average person fit your definition of "know yourself". Especially since a lot of these people relied on social media as their income, entertainment, and news? Also you didn't refute the claim that the people over there are not "brainwashed puppets". It may not be Ba Sing Sae level but I'm very curious how hard the culture shock is going to be when these influencers voice their opinions.
I don't even think it's necessarily for addiction, it seems to be out of spite. Just 'take my data' ... terrible idea! People don't know how much exposure they're risking, most people are not very tech literate and they're exposing their entire home / work networks to vulnerabilities by behaving this way
I just find it funny how one of the girls was talking about "learning Mandarin". Maybe they should learn how to read and get a basic grasp on the English language first...
There are multiple variations of Mandarin. Learning one doesn't allow you to understand any of the others. That's how delusional and low I.Q. these fools are.
they should have a better understanding of other countries as a whole... these kids are jumping on a China fad, but I bet they would be much more comfortable in Japan, South Korea, Singapore, even Thailand or Vietnam, not to mention all the places in Europe as long as they say they're Canadian...
Attempting to learn Mandarin will break them. Many American students don’t even want to learn Spanish, which has many, many cognates with English. By comparison, Mandarin is so different from English as to seem alien-and I mean “alien” in the sense of, “from another planet,” not “from another country.”
@stevensolomon9512 There are at least 6 variations of Mandarin and they are all like completely different languages. These people are just really stupid
Rent is also cheap because the rooms are the size of a bedroom, the whole apartment! Kitchen, bedroom and living room all in one room. Research and critical thinking is lacking in our country.
Bring up slavery and jim crow and having a Felon President. US has lied to us for years to now of our befits. At this point Laws don't exist in the US.
@@marcoomau I think the point is that China has racial problems (perhaps in a more state supported way) like most everyone else. It is a companion on the road to equality, not already the epidemy of it.
The TikTok ban was about government control of citizen communication and information. It had nothing to do with the app's country of origin, national security or anything like that.
Americans going over there to see if they have a better life will have a very rude awakening. I Give It 2 weeks to a month before they realize uh-oh mistake and because I'm an American and I think I have free speech now I'm in a Work Camp
Some are being rudely awakened already because of the standards on Content in place there. They need to wake up altogether and get off short-form media!
Our business have BEEN in China for the last 30 years and taking jobs out of America! I don’t agree with DB on this video at all! Our National Debt is impossible to turn around. We are in decline.
@@JoseAlfonsoContreras-g9l And you're still completely asleep. The government is supposed to work for the people, not the other way around. The ones who voted against their interests will learn what happens when you do that and take everyone with them. There is a rude awakening to happen for the American people these four years.
American ex-Ticktockers learning Mandarin? Seriously? I was a German teacher for about 5 years, and I can tell you that many US students struggle with German-which is considered a “hard” language for English speakers. But German is actually closely related to English, and has similarities with English that can make learning easier. It’s a snap compared to Mandarin, which is from an entirely different language family, uses tones to distinguish otherwise identical words (in listening and speaking), has an enormously complex, character-based writing system rather than an alphabet, and operates according to an entirely different linguistic logic than European languages do. Take it from a language professional, learning Mandarin is going to be a rude awakening for those “Boston Tea Party” Ticktockers. I give most of them a couple weeks before they give up the attempt.
I spent four years trying to learn Spanish, which is basically easy English, and never became fluent, though my brother did by being a foreign exchange student in Spain for three weeks, where he stayed out in the sticks with a family where the parents couldn’t speak English. Apparently, he ended up with a “Catalan” accent, which my understanding is would be like a Southern drawl or something; basically, a “hillbilly” accent! 🤣 Oh, well, at least he became fluent! I can pretty much figure out someone is speaking Spanish, but no way I could have a conversation! 😅
The girl whipping her phone around sounds gawd awfully dumb. Uggg tictoc has "slayed" peoples intelligence. 😂😂😂 Might as well sign up to the chinese communist party and get werkin'
It’s interesting the American perspective on freedom of speech. I live in the UK so our speech isn’t quite as free here, you know living under a monarchy and all that. Apparently in america it’s ok to shut down TikTok as the propaganda on that platform is dangerous, but everyone and I mean anyone can own a gun because you know to protect themselves from authoritarian government. So it’s ok to let an adolescent boy with murderous inclinations have access to military grade weapons in the name of freedom but it’s not ok to have TikTok spouting ideas, sorry I mean propaganda? My personal view is that public safety is a government concern and restricting access to guns is an obvious first step. After that, if you are at liberty to say anything then people will say anything. If you say some shit, then you should be prepared to back that up in court.
It is funny that TikTokers don't know how terrible working conditions are in China. They don't allow you to say 'suicide' on TikTok, but that's not because it's offensive. That's what is said but that is probably not true. When the Foxxcon company in China was making smart phones they worked their employes for 60+ hours a week and made them stay in housing adjacent to the factory. The employees were driven so made they threatened a suicide strike. At least 130 employees at the top of their housing threatened to jump. Most accounts say they were deadly serious. It was only then that working conditions improved slightly or just enough so they didn't go insane. They then installed nets on all Foxxcon buildings. That's why suicide isn't allowed on TikTok, because it's a labor organizing term in China.
I don't like tiktok nor do I use it, but unless there were some factual "threats of national security" then banning the app is just dumb. Data mining happens more frequently than not...
Yes, this is a tough point for non-cyber-security people to get. Here’s a simple example: apps are normally constrained to minimal access to the system they run on. That’s to keep them from stealing things like network credentials. TikTok breaks those constraints and reports back vastly more data than it’s even supposed to access. This effectively provides network back doors on millions of systems. Just for starters.
@@SchoolforHackers You’re right that TikTok overreaches, but let’s not ignore that Google and Meta built their empires on mass data mining. For over a decade, they’ve tracked users across apps, scanned messages, and used workarounds to bypass privacy restrictions-scaling back only when forced by Apple and regulators. TikTok may be even more aggressive, reportedly bypassing system constraints, but the real problem is the surveillance-based business model that all these companies rely on.
@@titovalasquesstill not comparing apples to apples. China owns all Chinese companies. China is a communist dictatorship. That said🤔US companies have way much too contro over our government via lobbying. We need to get money out of politics. See the difference? I would also argue that we just gave up our country to oligarchs Trump , Musk and billionaire tech bros. But see the difference? Both have big problems but I would still rather be where we are in the US than communist China's brutal dictatorship.
@@SchoolforHackers that doesn't even touch on the ability to influence the minds and perceptions of the viewers... as demonstrated in the above video. Too many of these American kids had erroneous perceptions of China, but now that's allowed them to be propagandized by equally erroneous, yet opposite perceptions. Our schools need to do way better...
That’s true everywhere. People mostly just want to be able to safely and healthily support marriage and a couple, maybe three, kids, no matter where in the world you go. Some societies make that harder than others, but the greedy rich are a problem everywhere, too. 🫤
THANK YOU!!!! Tofu construction is when buildings are made of the cheapest materials such as rebar you can bend with your hands and concrete that crumbles by poking your finger in it. Notorious in China.
american construction is just as shit. especially any new builds, made of cardboard and timber. Cheap american housing is just as bad. stop being sinophobic.
We are so stupid. One Chinese-linked social media platform is being shut down over security concerns... so, people move to another Chinese-linked social media platform because... I have no answer. Easier to complain about the system of government they have control over than, oh, I don't know, fix the system?
We have zero control over the government and it’s about to get a lot worse. I’m not a TikTok fan but these young kids are devastated about losing their stream if income, their community. If nothing else the Chinese people on Rednote are offering them kindness and compassion and these young people need some of it. We don’t give it to them we are all on RUclips talking trash about them. Calling them stupid or whatever. We need to do better. We won’t though because we are a selfish country.
We are in the process of it happening. I would argue that corporations have too much control of our government which is not the same thing as an oligarchy. But again, electing Trump, musk and the tech bros probably just made it happen. Still better than China's brutal Communist dictatorship. And we still have a chance to turn this country around.
I think he means China isn't better in this way, because they tend to have company towns. And so does South Korea... we aren't _quite_ there yet, but Bezos is getting us there in a hurry
Some real facts about China, part 2: Shall we anal-ize China's "miracle" economy growth? According to statista here are the Imports (Is) and exports (Ex) to and from China, by foreign enterprises. In 1986 Is were 5.6 and Ex were 1.9 By 2006 Is were 59.7 and Ex were 58.2 By 2016 Is were 48'5 and Ex were 43.7 By 2023 Is were 32.4 Ex were 28.6 That plainly shows that the "miracle" was in no small part a product of foreign enterprises and at the cost of economies worldwide for those enterprises were attracted by cheap labor and government provided benefits. In the C-919 the plane that China hails as "homegrown" all avionics are imported. The bullet trains are based on Japanese technology dating back to the 1960's. China does produce signal and train controllers, but the reliable ones are imported. As a side note there have been zero passenger fatalities on the Shinkansen, Japanese bullet trains, since its inauguration 1964, while in China in just a single incident, the 2011 Wenzhou in a fast train collision killed 40 people and injured over 190. China no longer publishes railway deaths. Solar panels were invented in Europe and even the early machines to produce them were imported from Europe. Electric Vehicles parts like electric motors and controllers are mainly imported and the chips are 90% imported. Chips for vehicles have to withstand vibration, large temperature swings, dust, and moisture among other issues. China hasn't been able to produce such chips in the quantity required. Batteries possibly got much help from companies like Panasonic and Samsung. Also and in no small part, foreign enterprises are required to share technology, which is then passed on to SOE'S. state owned enterprises, which are heavily subsidized, subsidies that foreign companies may not get. Conclusion if China was left on its own, it, probably, would still be in the dark ages of technology
Good post. Speaking of bullet trains, look into how the Chinese buried one after it went off the tracks. The Chinese have been cooking the books for years. The economy could be up to 20% smaller than it really is.
@@CrapKerouac Y're right. The CCP at beginning of the year sets the growth rate for the year and everyone has to cook the books to match that growth, no matter floods, earthquakes, fires, any and all cataclysmic problems the goal has to be met.
I’m not going to debate on people’s opinions on what’s good or bad regarding China vs America. Both have flaws, both aren’t perfect. But before you assume I’m a useless centrist, understand that my beef with the US government is that it isn’t completely honest about its decision making. It’s my hypothesis that the real reason they moved so quickly to ban TikTok was not about data mining (because they already turn a blind eye away from American social media to doing it) but it was more difficult to control the narrative of topics like Gaza and the plight of the Palestine people the way they get the network news to all sing the same tune of Israel being the underdog in this situation.
Dude you are clueless. never mind data mining. china directly controls its citizens thoughts by controling the media, absolutely. chinese people are not allowed on tictok. tiktok is chinese propaganda made for the west. This info is easily found with examples on the net, unless you ue chinese software like tiktok. whatever you think of usa's control of narative, it is not close to how bad china is. In china there is no mention of the tianenmen square masacre.
China *accommodates* to people’s salaries, so the cost of living is much less expensive. Amounting to making $47,000 a year in America! HOWEVER, the American government *MAKES NO ACCOMMODATIONS* to people’s salaries. Amounting to making $14,000 a year in China.
Let's not forget that their $20,000 salary is also what they get as part of their "996" culture. If you don't know what 996 is, look it up, then tell me you want to move to China.
4:19 The basic unit of Chinese currency is the yuan, not dollar. There's no such thing as a "Chinese dollar". It only clouds your argument to refer to it that way. Maybe lay off the tequila.
There's also another subtler answer to Dark Brandon's argument. Americans worship cars and countryside, two things that demonstrably pollute heavily and create tons of carbon emissions and destroy the environment and lower life expectancy compared to cities. Cities are better for people than rural living. They live longer and are exposed to less pollution and produce less emissions and emergency operators reach people faster. China propagandizing cities has the knock-on effect of lowering carbon emissions, cost of living, and increasing life expectancy. The panic around 15 minute cities in the west is specifically a panic around the feasibility and implementation of better infrastructure and living standards. It's a war for an inferior standard of living. So, yes, China is brainwashing people. But it's not like you can show an empty freeway and go, "America doesn't have that." Because we're Americans. We know our roads are empty and collapsing and we know rural living is a net negative on our quality of life. I think a lot of "I like it here well enough" people are more radically motivated by self-destructive nationalism than making lives better. Heck, the attack on Tik Tok was admittedly, according to Dems and Reps, an attack on images of g_nocide they can't convince people to hide or censor.
This is no different than people not understanding why California is more expensive than Kentucky or Iowa. Lmfao😅 It is not my job (or democrats) to fix stupid, if people can't see the truth about China let them move there. 🤷Lol
Which country GREW their middle class over the last 40 years and which country has destroyed their middle class over the last 40 years.... yeah you're right, it's not your job to fix stupid because you're clearly to stupid to be fixed LOL
Thanks. People keep saying "they didn't tell me anything about this." When there's information available to look at and yet doesn't look into it. And it's clear they are ... choosing to remain ignorant.
If its about "national security" then why is x or meta not band? Anti american? Rednote doesn't need to that when America is being exposed as what it is
In 2017 President Donald Trump on Monday signed into law a controversial measure repealing online privacy protections established by the Federal Communications Commission under the Obama Administration. The rules, which would have taken effect in December, required internet service providers - including Comcast, Verizon and AT&T - to obtain permission from customers before sharing personal data like their web-browsing history. The rules were aimed at preventing internet providers from selling that data without permission. Critics of the rules argued they were an example of government overreach and were unfair because tech companies, like Google and Facebook, are not required to get such permission before tracking customers’ habits.
Are you really trying to say we don’t live it in oligarchy? Are you not paying attention? Do you know that like child labor laws are being reversed here in the US we also are not increasing the minimum wage what proportion of a family’s income in China goes to living and how much is left over at the end of the month?
I don't think he's claiming it's not an oligarchy, he's saying "OK we're an oligarchy but... China bad too". Which is fair enough as an opinion, if a massively simplistic and slightly misleading take.
@@ElcoreFirst and foremost, China is Ruled by an Oligarchy with facist leanings, just ask the Survivor's of Tienamen Square. Second, they can live on lower wages because there are price Controls on goods, subsidized Houseing, and free health care. You know, all the things you MAGAOTS voted against because you are conditioned to recoil anytime someone says Socialism. But hey, your more than welcome to leave assuming China even wants you.
@@ElcoreHow is it simplistic? Name a large Nation-state that isn’t a sociopath if it were a person? Now name one that is as rich as China or the U.S. You can’t. Thinking any country is “good” is simplistic and naive
I went to China (Bejing) in 2004. Beautiful City. Pretty nice people. A lot of English where we stayed in the American section. Yes, they have sections. We ended up in the Russian Section one time. Of course, couldn't read anything as I don't speak Russian. The tour guide talked about the "new" middle class at that time. He felt it was a good thing. I agreed. You have to understand: the Chinese have a very different mind-set to the Western World. They believe there are starving children in America. There are!!! They live in a culture where if you screw up, you will get reported to the government. They are beautiful people, but very, very different. I talked with some students on the bus one day. They were very curious about American politics. I was very, very careful what I said. When they got off the bus, I asked the tour guild if they would get in trouble for talking with me. (Yes, that is a thing.) He said no, they were just curious. I was scared for them.
you are very funny , china is not north korea ok, china right now is almost nothing different from western , i mean the social stuff. please dont pretend you are kind to say chinese people are nice, but their country bad, how can nice people built a evil country????china has right not to be islamic, china has right not to be sperated, its the only reason why it has one party now!!!
"Learning Mandrin in 4 days..." Is using a translation app considered "learning" these days? 😂 Wait until people realize the translations are going to be slightly flawed more often than not which can make communication frustrating. I dont use Tik Tok, but do have some empathy for the people who did, especially people who have careers as you mentioned. Seeing some of these clips not helping me stay empathetic...
my Chinese born Brazilian citizen says he left China because of it communist ways, like he even said Chinese are very racist... but they have rural areas that are poor which will have very nice scenery, but it's very poor, whereas the city is rich and very expensive... as to which American don't understand that china prices are the same as US, it's the CURRENCY that's cheap, not the economy as it's very oligarchy over there, you look how big China is the city's are all clumped where's as our of the city if looks like its shacks, but it's just more rural because it's poor. this is called Culture Shock! because again they're not being told the truth about both sides but they'll have little facts to give to you, either to scare you or make you think you're better off wherever you are. in reality you're not I'm afraid no where is
@@TheHiddeniteYour friend is mostly correct, but things are genuinely more affordable in China than in the US, it's not just a difference in currency. You can be relatively poor in China but still afford simple luxuries like eating out in a restaurant multiple times a week. It's one of the things the country has got right.
@Elcore yeah I mean I mostly know things china likes to keep hidden or just straight up censors, but I just didn't put the whole lot what he told me in, mainly because you get this type of stuff everywhere(even in UK with EDL, and neo n@z pages, it's just well hidden here) where as china it looks like they just allow anything that doesn't bully xi jinping I guess) it's mad but I'm just thinking if MAGA cares about freedom of speech thank god they're American I guess xD but again the people in china are shocked that Americans and EU get paid a whole lot more then them for working and get two days off, but they can't do much about it, or the ccp are just that powerful?
all for people making choices like learning about other countries. Just like this country however you're not really helping yourself or the people of china by becoming a Chinastan.
Been in China, lived there, worked there... in fact, will go back to work in China in the near future... But omg, this is not about weather China does it better than the USA, but rather about people literally spread wrong information about China in both directions. I am from Europe and the quality of life in China is only better, if you really only account for the absolute bare minimum and even then you have to be a bit picky, because the tabwater in China is not drinkable. But you will absolutely get good food over there for little money - dont let channels like 'inside china' tell you otherwhise. If you dont buy garbage, you wont get garbage, it is as simple as that for literally any place in the world... Now, if you say there is no social score, that is technically right, but the social judgement in China is harsh... ultra harsh. You will not go to jail or be prevented from doing stuff. But other people will absolutely treat you like a moron, if you act like one. Also, it is always funny, when Americans always pit 'freedom' against 'safety'... In china you get your backpack and hnadbag scanned when you ride the underground. The govt will absolutely allways know where you are, because outside toilets there is no corner that is not on camera. I have yet to see news about public shootings in China or similar stuff...
I disagree China is outpacing America and we are an Empire in decline. Please research from an economic standpoint. We are so so far in debt that we cannot keep this up and still be a competitive. China has a mix of capitalism and government ownership. The oligarchs have destroyed everything. Along with Reagan.
Glad to hear that banning Tik Tok and not X is doing the exact opposite of what was intended. This is what happens when you treat adults like children.
Bro, if people want to leave, let them leave, I don't get the problem and this video kinda feels like it's trying to dissuade people 🤔. It would be good for some Americans to get out there and actually see there's more to the world than just the US... 😏
And why do you suppose China wants people there? Could it be China wants to siphon off the best and brightest from America to set up businesses in China?
I KNEW IT. When I started hearing all the praise over RedNote and our people finding out how "bad" we have it over here. Um, it isn't great over here, but I know living under communism is worse.
China imports a significant amount of agricultural products from the United States. They are actually not self sustaining when it comes to agriculture in support of their population’s needs.
It's the CPC, not the CCP. That was an incorrect acronym that spread around decades ago, and because casual racism against the Chinese is so normalised, nobody bothered to check it, and people actually get hostile and defensive when you point out it is incorrect. Like how "Sun Tzu" is an incorrect transliteration of Sunzi from the 19th century that is still used because racism.
Yep. I pointed out elsewhere that there are a bunch of countries at least on a par with, if not objectively better places to live, than America, some of which even have English as a primary language. China is not one of these places. 😬
Red Note is currently working to separate foreign IP addresses to a separate server. I've actually seen a Chinese American who was using Red Note to learn more about her culture she was separated from and is now concerned(honestly she was teary eyed) she will be separated out with the rest of the non Chinese residents. Now to some extent, it makes sense that they want the algorithm to cater to foreign interests, which they might believe is different than the average Chinese user. But that is a very benign interpretation of why that is occurring- control of what people see and over how they interact is far more likely. 🤷🏽♀️
What the government should have done is regulate social media in general to prevent data collection they don’t want TikTok to do. But that would have upset some big donors, so they banned TikTok instead and pissed a bunch of people off, driving them further in the direction the government doesn’t want them to go.
What an American thing to say that there were freeways without many cars on them and also see that as some type of measurement for the quality of life. In most other countries we use the excellent public transport system instead, it's just more convenient. Who wants to start every morning in a gridlock when you can read a book instead on your way to work?
So you've never heard of New York. It's a very American thing to say because you don't grasp the distances that are being talked about. There is no public transportation for many Americans to get to work because they do not live in the city where their employment is, therefore a car is necessary to get to work. The mean commuter time in America in 2023 was 26.8 minutes, with 8.9% of total commuters commuting 60 minutes of more. It's a matter of where your job is vs where you can afford and want to live, not how great the public transport system may be.
@gnohms Wait...I don't grasp the distances, me coming from a country just as long as USA from north to south? USA isn't the only place on earth with vast distances you know. We still do it. And wow, you have ONE city with some sort of public transport, good for you. Ohh, you have areas with poor vs rich people. Unheard of in the rest of the world.../s
No, as a British person, I can tell you the Chinese are lying to you. Americans are free, and you don’t live in a corporation. The problem is that Americans don’t take advantage of the freedom democracy gives them- freedom to form political parties, freedom to stand in elections
All those kids in these clips should go and actually live in China for 2 years and then they can come back and say how great China is and how "free" the people there are.
9:52 FOXCON is a great employer. The workers get 6 hours off every day, no commute since they basically work from home. They put up safety nets around the building because too many employees were going to the roof to "clock out early"
Theres a guy named moon on youtube, and he does all kinds of videos spreading info and awareness on stuff like this. His video on tiktok scared tf outta me man. he covers how years ago it was talked about in congress how dangerous, and how they encouraged all members of the military to delete the app and to have any and all family members to do the same because it was a threat to national security. the meeting was like in 2018 or some shit. their data mining is considerably worse than FB or other apps, but eh whatever live and let live i guess.
Can we agree that authoritarianism is bad whether it comes from a socialist regime or a capitalist one? As one with socialist leanings, I have problems with the PRC and their authoritarian policies, by the same token, the US’s slide towards fascism is troubling as well. But I’d rather go to Red Note to make my criticisms known than have my opinion censored on the low by Zuckerberg.
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Update: TikTok resumed U.S. operations after a 14-hour blackout that began Saturday night due to a new law requiring its separation from ByteDance. While President-elect Trump's Truth Social post promising to pause the law allowed web hosts to restore service, TikTok's future remains uncertain. The app is still unavailable on Apple and Google app stores, preventing new downloads, updates, and in-app purchases.
TikTok was sold to Meta. Zuckerberg, Shou, Musk, Trump, Bezos and the rest have colluded together to sell America to the highest bidder. Welcome to the oligarchy.
TikTok died on January 18th 2025, what you are using now is NOT TikTok, delete it now for your own safety. Their servers have been migrated to Meta.
Thank you SO MUCH for bringing truth to the babblings of these air-heads! Gullibility has no Party afillitaion. Luv ya, man!!!
Wealth inequality, stagnant wages, greedflation, school pew-pews, social safety nets being removed, tax cuts for the rich, insane investments in law enforcement & army, student debts, hiring external cheap labor instead of domestic, etc etc.
Government: "Why do they hate us?"
american aps spying, stealing data, and selling it to the highest bidder. "why don't they trust american aps?@"
Minimum wage has been $7.50 since 1997 and Republicans refused to sign a bill to raise it.
If only someone could change this with elections. Whats that? People are too apathetic to give a shit? Whats that? Kamala and Trump are both equally bad? Whats that? Trump won 🙀😮😯🤯😱😲🫢
It's worth noting that Pelosi, Schumer, Romney, and Biden, as well as all the leadership on both sides, said images of the Gazan g_nocide were a Tik Tok conspiracy by China.
Meanwhile, CNN lied about it for a year, the New York Times is still lying, and Rachel Maddow didn't even cover it for the first 13 months. 🫠
And Schumer said, "Maybe we should sell it to Meta!!!"
Meta, by the way, who blocked Facebook and Instagram posts from inside of Palestine.
I think we need to take a long look at this and realize our active complicity in the BS by whining over who gets to censor what.
We did a g_nocide. In broad daylight. And we're going to, "But Tiananmen Square killed hundreds of people."
I know. It's disgusting. And the US government just murdered between 40,000-180,000 civiliana. Not to mention the hundreds of thousands dead from the Iraq War.
It's kind of delusional how broken we are as Americans, especially now that the centrist Democrats have made politics an inane team sport.
You don't get to be the good guys by joining a team. You have to earn it. Democrats learned that the hard way and then seem actively trying to pretend they didn't.
While on paper we live in a representative democracy, the truth is we do live in an oligarchy which is bordering on a corporatocracy.
Which is the result of late-stage capitalism
When you attempt to protect your religion by refusing to teach critical thinking skills, you become susceptible to all propaganda, not just the info you want people to believe.
Teach young people HOW to think, not WHAT to think.
Well said. No matter if it’s a fascist state or religion, keeping people uneducated just shows weakness.
This was my takeaway. These people are unable to use multiple sources to give context to what they are finding out. Indeed have they been living under a rock, not even understanding the irony of the app being called Little Red Book?
What's so funny is Americans talking about how much better China's style of healthcare is and no one told them that other countries have better healthcare than they do. It's like hello????!!! Did the past 100 or so years not exist? People around the world have been vocally shocked and appalled by the state of your healthcare, you just refused to listen to us for decades and decades and decades.
it's almost like when you are 23rd(or whatever) in healthcare, worldwide, that almost any country's healthcare is better than yours.
Seriously. I'm trying to figure out how they didn't know. Smh.
@@muadhnate They literally come to Canada to get medications if they can because the price is lower due to government regulations, too. There is no way they didn't know.
It’s Chinese agitprop.
@@incineroar9933 Yeah, but American propoganda also continually asserts that Canadian healthcare is broken and that people die waiting for care (as opposed to dying because their claim is denied). Plus any discussion of comparative healthcare always has to bring up ‘Canadians have to travel to the US for some treatments so that proves the US system is better’, while ignoring that Canadians will still pay less.
What about people living in their vehicles in cities where they work because rent and ownership is not affordable?
It's funny. I don't know which country you're referring to.
An American user went on RedNote and said, "Hey, Chinese people! Tell me your meanest joke about Americans!"
Very first reply:
"Why do Americans eat like your healthcare is free?"
🤣🤣🤣
Oof 🥹
I saw that too lolollll
@@The_Black_Caps A barracker for Australian and New Zealand Cricket-HELZZ YEAH!!! I live in North Carolina and enjoy T-20 cricket. We have a huge population of Indian and Pakistanis here and T-20 cricket is played quite often on any given weekend by local teams at recreation parks and we had a Major League Cricket tournament here last July that aired around the world on Willow TV in the next town over called Morrisville. It's even called the MCG-LOL!!! We even have a developmental Aussie Rules Football team called the Carolina Tigers Sponsored by the Richmond Tigers and a rugby team called the Raleigh Vipers. I enjoy watching rugby and Aussie rules much more than our American code of football-YAWN!!!
@@TravisTarrant yoooo never in a million years would I have expected to meet a cricket fan here but this is amazing hehe, made mah day,also glad to know y'all enjoy it in the US too 🥶 and yesss Aussie rules footy is deffo way more entertaining lmfaoooo
china has its own oligarchs. things are not better there, for the average chinese citizen.
The politburo lives high on the hog, gets its own organic fresh food and high living nobody else gets. Even the Moon cakes sold on the street can have cotton in the middle
That's what people don't understand. They want to use their new boo (China) to make their old boo mad (US). All they did was make more people millionaires and billionaires. It's goofy.
Like make an effort to really understand the lives of the avg Chinese citizen. Learn Mandarin to learn about people. Stop being superficial. Everything is about the market. Ugh. I have so many thoughts.
@@rongravelle603 High on the hog and corrupt, hiding millions of dollars overseas. Xi is trying to stop the exodus of money, but it's a little too late.
Yeah, these Tik Tok people are like the mirror image of Tucker Carlson in the Russian grocery store. The grass is greener on the other side, they think, but it really isn’t.
They are if you get cancer, mate.
Murica, so much freedom people flaunt their ignorant as wisdom.
I will say we are a young country but it's time to grow up
Their terms and conditions were some of the most human things I've seen in a long time ( you should really check it out )
Its more about giving the data to American Tech bro....then it's even more dangerous.😢 @@jillparmley5286
our education system has been failing us for years
At least three generations.
Yet another thing we didn't want or ask for but can thank Republicans for.
@@marykayewaterson6771some people that live in my town want to defund public schools. Yet out town has the lowest test scores. We are so screwed. Sadly the weak and defenseless are always the victims. Please pray for us.
You're uneducated?
That’s why people are so susceptible to gaslighting
We're screwed when so many people are this desperate to stay on social media that they'll go to the shadiest looking app ever just to stay in their addiction. And not only that but also vote for a creep like trump just cause he said he'd stop the ban.
RedNote's helping me re-learn my Chinese and giving me a look at the lives of people I've always been told were brainwashed puppets. RedNote isn't a perfect app, but if you use it in moderation and know yourself enough to stop, it's pretty sweet.
@@moonlightrobbery And exactly how likely is the average person fit your definition of "know yourself". Especially since a lot of these people relied on social media as their income, entertainment, and news?
Also you didn't refute the claim that the people over there are not "brainwashed puppets". It may not be Ba Sing Sae level but I'm very curious how hard the culture shock is going to be when these influencers voice their opinions.
It's not a shady ap. Just because it was made over seas. You realize all american aps steal and sell your data, right?
I don't even think it's necessarily for addiction, it seems to be out of spite. Just 'take my data' ... terrible idea! People don't know how much exposure they're risking, most people are not very tech literate and they're exposing their entire home / work networks to vulnerabilities by behaving this way
@@moonlightrobbery Haha! Nice propaganda.
Thanks DB. This isn't a right or left thing. Gullible people, on social media, are doomed to be brainwashed, it's inevitable.
As if american social media is any better. IT IS WORSE.
@@alphaHero100 Can't they both be bad? Social media can be destructive.
I just find it funny how one of the girls was talking about "learning Mandarin". Maybe they should learn how to read and get a basic grasp on the English language first...
There are multiple variations of Mandarin. Learning one doesn't allow you to understand any of the others. That's how delusional and low I.Q. these fools are.
they should have a better understanding of other countries as a whole... these kids are jumping on a China fad, but I bet they would be much more comfortable in Japan, South Korea, Singapore, even Thailand or Vietnam, not to mention all the places in Europe as long as they say they're Canadian...
Attempting to learn Mandarin will break them. Many American students don’t even want to learn Spanish, which has many, many cognates with English. By comparison, Mandarin is so different from English as to seem alien-and I mean “alien” in the sense of, “from another planet,” not “from another country.”
@@stevensolomon9512 Occupy Mars-a-Lago 😅
@stevensolomon9512 There are at least 6 variations of Mandarin and they are all like completely different languages. These people are just really stupid
Rent is also cheap because the rooms are the size of a bedroom, the whole apartment! Kitchen, bedroom and living room all in one room. Research and critical thinking is lacking in our country.
Ah, so the equivalent of an “efficiency” apartment. Fine for a single or maybe a couple, but totally impractical if you have even one kid. 🤔
Time to start re reading my favourite dystopian novels such as 1984 and Brave New World .
Post Singular by Rudy Rucker maybe...
bring up the Uyghurs. see what happens.
Or Tiennaman Square
Or Tibet
Bring up slavery and jim crow and having a Felon President. US has lied to us for years to now of our befits. At this point Laws don't exist in the US.
Are you pretending the US empire is better?
@@marcoomau I think the point is that China has racial problems (perhaps in a more state supported way) like most everyone else. It is a companion on the road to equality, not already the epidemy of it.
Our youth have all this information at their finger tips and will fall for the okie doke every time.
They're still less delusional than our parent's generation.
@Seoul_Soldier maybe but we read better.
@@Seoul_Soldier Really?
The TikTok ban was about government control of citizen communication and information. It had nothing to do with the app's country of origin, national security or anything like that.
Of course it wasn’t. It’s a company from Singapore, not China. If it was about China we wouldn’t have red note or Temu, SHEIN and Wish.
So it's not about the Chinese propaganda that everything's fine there?
It's definitely about government control. Otherwise, the owner of TikTok wouldn't have been at the inauguration today.
@@markduncan1144 Chinese government. Tik Tok is blocked in China
Americans going over there to see if they have a better life will have a very rude awakening. I Give It 2 weeks to a month before they realize uh-oh mistake and because I'm an American and I think I have free speech now I'm in a Work Camp
Some are being rudely awakened already because of the standards on Content in place there. They need to wake up altogether and get off short-form media!
And don’t look at the cameras everywhere
Our business have BEEN in China for the last 30 years and taking jobs out of America! I don’t agree with DB on this video at all! Our National Debt is impossible to turn around. We are in decline.
See the key point you make is that you "think you have free speech". You're still half asleep.
@@JoseAlfonsoContreras-g9l And you're still completely asleep. The government is supposed to work for the people, not the other way around. The ones who voted against their interests will learn what happens when you do that and take everyone with them. There is a rude awakening to happen for the American people these four years.
American ex-Ticktockers learning Mandarin? Seriously? I was a German teacher for about 5 years, and I can tell you that many US students struggle with German-which is considered a “hard” language for English speakers. But German is actually closely related to English, and has similarities with English that can make learning easier. It’s a snap compared to Mandarin, which is from an entirely different language family, uses tones to distinguish otherwise identical words (in listening and speaking), has an enormously complex, character-based writing system rather than an alphabet, and operates according to an entirely different linguistic logic than European languages do.
Take it from a language professional, learning Mandarin is going to be a rude awakening for those “Boston Tea Party” Ticktockers. I give most of them a couple weeks before they give up the attempt.
I spent four years trying to learn Spanish, which is basically easy English, and never became fluent, though my brother did by being a foreign exchange student in Spain for three weeks, where he stayed out in the sticks with a family where the parents couldn’t speak English. Apparently, he ended up with a “Catalan” accent, which my understanding is would be like a Southern drawl or something; basically, a “hillbilly” accent! 🤣 Oh, well, at least he became fluent! I can pretty much figure out someone is speaking Spanish, but no way I could have a conversation! 😅
omg these tiktokers r so dumb........
They might be dumb in your eyes BUT they do not have to work a 9-5 mind numbing job for peanuts.
@@StarDust-vm1qs Then why are they complaining about their wages if they are doing so well?
People are stupid 🙄 🤷🙄
The girl whipping her phone around sounds gawd awfully dumb. Uggg tictoc has "slayed" peoples intelligence. 😂😂😂
Might as well sign up to the chinese communist party and get werkin'
It’s interesting the American perspective on freedom of speech. I live in the UK so our speech isn’t quite as free here, you know living under a monarchy and all that. Apparently in america it’s ok to shut down TikTok as the propaganda on that platform is dangerous, but everyone and I mean anyone can own a gun because you know to protect themselves from authoritarian government. So it’s ok to let an adolescent boy with murderous inclinations have access to military grade weapons in the name of freedom but it’s not ok to have TikTok spouting ideas, sorry I mean propaganda? My personal view is that public safety is a government concern and restricting access to guns is an obvious first step. After that, if you are at liberty to say anything then people will say anything. If you say some shit, then you should be prepared to back that up in court.
It is funny that TikTokers don't know how terrible working conditions are in China. They don't allow you to say 'suicide' on TikTok, but that's not because it's offensive. That's what is said but that is probably not true. When the Foxxcon company in China was making smart phones they worked their employes for 60+ hours a week and made them stay in housing adjacent to the factory. The employees were driven so made they threatened a suicide strike. At least 130 employees at the top of their housing threatened to jump. Most accounts say they were deadly serious. It was only then that working conditions improved slightly or just enough so they didn't go insane. They then installed nets on all Foxxcon buildings. That's why suicide isn't allowed on TikTok, because it's a labor organizing term in China.
Oh. Lovely. 😬
Well they obviously aren't very bright. Let them find out for themselves
Apr 4, 2017 - President Donald Trump on Monday signed a new law setting stage for service providers to sell people's browser history.
I don't like tiktok nor do I use it, but unless there were some factual "threats of national security" then banning the app is just dumb.
Data mining happens more frequently than not...
Yes, this is a tough point for non-cyber-security people to get. Here’s a simple example: apps are normally constrained to minimal access to the system they run on. That’s to keep them from stealing things like network credentials. TikTok breaks those constraints and reports back vastly more data than it’s even supposed to access. This effectively provides network back doors on millions of systems. Just for starters.
@@SchoolforHackers
You’re right that TikTok overreaches, but let’s not ignore that Google and Meta built their empires on mass data mining. For over a decade, they’ve tracked users across apps, scanned messages, and used workarounds to bypass privacy restrictions-scaling back only when forced by Apple and regulators. TikTok may be even more aggressive, reportedly bypassing system constraints, but the real problem is the surveillance-based business model that all these companies rely on.
@@titovalasquesstill not comparing apples to apples. China owns all Chinese companies. China is a communist dictatorship.
That said🤔US companies have way much too contro over our government via lobbying. We need to get money out of politics.
See the difference?
I would also argue that we just gave up our country to oligarchs Trump , Musk and billionaire tech bros.
But see the difference? Both have big problems but I would still rather be where we are in the US than communist China's brutal dictatorship.
@@titovalasquesand we could have not consented to data mining by not using their apps like FB!
@@SchoolforHackers that doesn't even touch on the ability to influence the minds and perceptions of the viewers... as demonstrated in the above video.
Too many of these American kids had erroneous perceptions of China, but now that's allowed them to be propagandized by equally erroneous, yet opposite perceptions.
Our schools need to do way better...
Everybody thought Red Dawn was gonna be thousands of soldiers parachuting on our heads...
@@DarrenWaters75 makes me yearn for the days of " better d*ad than red"
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We also need to remember the Chinese people are not the government.
That’s true everywhere. People mostly just want to be able to safely and healthily support marriage and a couple, maybe three, kids, no matter where in the world you go. Some societies make that harder than others, but the greedy rich are a problem everywhere, too. 🫤
Start talking about Tiananmen Square on Red Note.
haha, for real. Double standards, homie!
Exactly
Really tho. Watch China observer, the Chinese people are struggling just like us.
yep.
like fb...free speech, only if they agree with the content
Ban all social media. Go outside for a change. Do something useful and productive.
Do you remember when people used to go outside? They mostly got drunk and destroyed property. It’s not like social media made people worse. 🤷♀️
I'd love to get rid of the credit score program. It's just a gimmick to charge more in interest for those with a credit score that's not perfect
Oh, Hell no, they think we are fat. They've gone too far.
Someone needs to mention "tofu construction" to these kids who are talking about how "cheap" it is to live in China.
THANK YOU!!!! Tofu construction is when buildings are made of the cheapest materials such as rebar you can bend with your hands and concrete that crumbles by poking your finger in it. Notorious in China.
@@rongravelle603 LOL obviously never been there or even travel outside of the US probably
Or "fake foods", or "Sewer Oil", or "zombie meats"...
american construction is just as shit. especially any new builds, made of cardboard and timber. Cheap american housing is just as bad. stop being sinophobic.
@@TheGoldenDonuttt Give it up.
We are so stupid. One Chinese-linked social media platform is being shut down over security concerns... so, people move to another Chinese-linked social media platform because...
I have no answer.
Easier to complain about the system of government they have control over than, oh, I don't know, fix the system?
Who is going to fix the system? Democrats enabled MAGA and Trump.
We have zero control over the government and it’s about to get a lot worse. I’m not a TikTok fan but these young kids are devastated about losing their stream if income, their community. If nothing else the Chinese people on Rednote are offering them kindness and compassion and these young people need some of it. We don’t give it to them we are all on RUclips talking trash about them. Calling them stupid or whatever. We need to do better. We won’t though because we are a selfish country.
9:46 We are not in an oligarchy? Seriously?
We are in the process of it happening. I would argue that corporations have too much control of our government which is not the same thing as an oligarchy. But again, electing Trump, musk and the tech bros probably just made it happen. Still better than China's brutal Communist dictatorship. And we still have a chance to turn this country around.
I think he means China isn't better in this way, because they tend to have company towns. And so does South Korea... we aren't _quite_ there yet, but Bezos is getting us there in a hurry
Addiction to social media pays those incomes. More bs than enlightenment imo
AMEN
What has come across to me which I did not understand before, is that the American people are so easily lead and manipulated, it’s staggering.
Although I am not in complete disagreement with your analysis of the inaccurate info these people are accepting as fact, this is not brain washing.
Some real facts about China, part 2:
Shall we anal-ize China's "miracle" economy growth?
According to statista here are the Imports (Is) and exports (Ex) to and from China, by foreign enterprises.
In 1986 Is were 5.6 and Ex were 1.9
By 2006 Is were 59.7 and Ex were 58.2
By 2016 Is were 48'5 and Ex were 43.7
By 2023 Is were 32.4 Ex were 28.6
That plainly shows that the "miracle" was in no small part a product of foreign enterprises and at the cost of economies worldwide for those enterprises were attracted by cheap labor and government provided benefits.
In the C-919 the plane that China hails as "homegrown" all avionics are imported.
The bullet trains are based on Japanese technology dating back to the 1960's. China does produce signal and train controllers, but the reliable ones are imported. As a side note there have been zero passenger fatalities on the Shinkansen, Japanese bullet trains, since its inauguration 1964, while in China in just a single incident, the 2011 Wenzhou in a fast train collision killed 40 people and injured over 190. China no longer publishes railway deaths.
Solar panels were invented in Europe and even the early machines to produce them were imported from Europe.
Electric Vehicles parts like electric motors and controllers are mainly imported and the chips are 90% imported. Chips for vehicles have to withstand vibration, large temperature swings, dust, and moisture among other issues. China hasn't been able to produce such chips in the quantity required.
Batteries possibly got much help from companies like Panasonic and Samsung.
Also and in no small part, foreign enterprises are required to share technology, which is then passed on to SOE'S. state owned enterprises, which are heavily subsidized, subsidies that foreign companies may not get.
Conclusion if China was left on its own, it, probably, would still be in the dark ages of technology
Good post. Speaking of bullet trains, look into how the Chinese buried one after it went off the tracks. The Chinese have been cooking the books for years. The economy could be up to 20% smaller than it really is.
@@CrapKerouac Y're right. The CCP at beginning of the year sets the growth rate for the year and everyone has to cook the books to match that growth, no matter floods, earthquakes, fires, any and all cataclysmic problems the goal has to be met.
I'm assuming they aren't hilighting the factories that put nets around the buildings to discourage workers from jumping from windows?
I’m not going to debate on people’s opinions on what’s good or bad regarding China vs America. Both have flaws, both aren’t perfect. But before you assume I’m a useless centrist, understand that my beef with the US government is that it isn’t completely honest about its decision making. It’s my hypothesis that the real reason they moved so quickly to ban TikTok was not about data mining (because they already turn a blind eye away from American social media to doing it) but it was more difficult to control the narrative of topics like Gaza and the plight of the Palestine people the way they get the network news to all sing the same tune of Israel being the underdog in this situation.
Dude you are clueless. never mind data mining. china directly controls its citizens thoughts by controling the media, absolutely. chinese people are not allowed on tictok. tiktok is chinese propaganda made for the west. This info is easily found with examples on the net, unless you ue chinese software like tiktok. whatever you think of usa's control of narative, it is not close to how bad china is. In china there is no mention of the tianenmen square masacre.
China *accommodates* to people’s salaries, so the cost of living is much less expensive. Amounting to making $47,000 a year in America!
HOWEVER, the American government *MAKES NO ACCOMMODATIONS* to people’s salaries. Amounting to making $14,000 a year in China.
@@hardlyworking_or, maybe there really aren't good things to say about a brutal dictatorship....Just a thought.
@@IMSiegfriedafter we have a year or so of Trump as a brutal dictator can we talk about it then?
Let's not forget that their $20,000 salary is also what they get as part of their "996" culture. If you don't know what 996 is, look it up, then tell me you want to move to China.
4:19 The basic unit of Chinese currency is the yuan, not dollar. There's no such thing as a "Chinese dollar". It only clouds your argument to refer to it that way. Maybe lay off the tequila.
And yet you knew what he meant. Next time try not attacking the messenger
@@IMSiegfried it's a dumb message.
Every thing you’re listing as bad in China happens here.
I’ve worked 74 hour weeks.
People unalive themselves daily.
There's also another subtler answer to Dark Brandon's argument.
Americans worship cars and countryside, two things that demonstrably pollute heavily and create tons of carbon emissions and destroy the environment and lower life expectancy compared to cities.
Cities are better for people than rural living. They live longer and are exposed to less pollution and produce less emissions and emergency operators reach people faster.
China propagandizing cities has the knock-on effect of lowering carbon emissions, cost of living, and increasing life expectancy.
The panic around 15 minute cities in the west is specifically a panic around the feasibility and implementation of better infrastructure and living standards. It's a war for an inferior standard of living.
So, yes, China is brainwashing people. But it's not like you can show an empty freeway and go, "America doesn't have that." Because we're Americans. We know our roads are empty and collapsing and we know rural living is a net negative on our quality of life.
I think a lot of "I like it here well enough" people are more radically motivated by self-destructive nationalism than making lives better. Heck, the attack on Tik Tok was admittedly, according to Dems and Reps, an attack on images of g_nocide they can't convince people to hide or censor.
Their infrastructure makes ours look good
This is no different than people not understanding why California is more expensive than Kentucky or Iowa. Lmfao😅 It is not my job (or democrats) to fix stupid, if people can't see the truth about China let them move there. 🤷Lol
Which country GREW their middle class over the last 40 years and which country has destroyed their middle class over the last 40 years.... yeah you're right, it's not your job to fix stupid because you're clearly to stupid to be fixed LOL
and send the maga acolytes to russia since they seem to love putin's 'strength'.
Thanks.
People keep saying "they didn't tell me anything about this." When there's information available to look at and yet doesn't look into it. And it's clear they are ... choosing to remain ignorant.
2:20 ok then you know that it really translates to "Little Red Book," as in Chairman Mao Zedong little red book.
Nothing wrong with capitalism aslong as you have protections for workers like union's and benefits. Unfortunately Trump and Elon are against that
4 legs good, 2 legs bad
4 legs good, 2 legs bad
4 legs good, 2 legs better
4 legs good, 2 legs better
Animal Farm
If its about "national security" then why is x or meta not band? Anti american? Rednote doesn't need to that when America is being exposed as what it is
@@SolarisZen Read about it all. Then, go listen to the SCOTUS arguments from January 19th, 2025.
Wow, @solarisZen... X and Meta suck, but they aren't owned by China. How hard is that for you to understand?
In 2017 President Donald Trump on Monday signed into law a controversial measure repealing online privacy protections established by the Federal Communications Commission under the Obama Administration.
The rules, which would have taken effect in December, required internet service providers - including Comcast, Verizon and AT&T - to obtain permission from customers before sharing personal data like their web-browsing history. The rules were aimed at preventing internet providers from selling that data without permission.
Critics of the rules argued they were an example of government overreach and were unfair because tech companies, like Google and Facebook, are not required to get such permission before tracking customers’ habits.
Because they are "our" oligarchs not Chinese oligarchs
@@akeleven STILL oligarchs
Are you really trying to say we don’t live it in oligarchy? Are you not paying attention? Do you know that like child labor laws are being reversed here in the US we also are not increasing the minimum wage what proportion of a family’s income in China goes to living and how much is left over at the end of the month?
Tell me you’re brainwashed about China without telling me.
I don't think he's claiming it's not an oligarchy, he's saying "OK we're an oligarchy but... China bad too". Which is fair enough as an opinion, if a massively simplistic and slightly misleading take.
@@ElcoreFirst and foremost, China is Ruled by an Oligarchy with facist leanings, just ask the Survivor's of Tienamen Square.
Second, they can live on lower wages because there are price Controls on goods, subsidized Houseing, and free health care. You know, all the things you MAGAOTS voted against because you are conditioned to recoil anytime someone says Socialism. But hey, your more than welcome to leave assuming China even wants you.
@@ElcoreHow is it simplistic? Name a large Nation-state that isn’t a sociopath if it were a person? Now name one that is as rich as China or the U.S.
You can’t. Thinking any country is “good” is simplistic and naive
I went to China (Bejing) in 2004. Beautiful City. Pretty nice people. A lot of English where we stayed in the American section. Yes, they have sections. We ended up in the Russian Section one time. Of course, couldn't read anything as I don't speak Russian. The tour guide talked about the "new" middle class at that time. He felt it was a good thing. I agreed. You have to understand: the Chinese have a very different mind-set to the Western World. They believe there are starving children in America. There are!!! They live in a culture where if you screw up, you will get reported to the government. They are beautiful people, but very, very different. I talked with some students on the bus one day. They were very curious about American politics. I was very, very careful what I said. When they got off the bus, I asked the tour guild if they would get in trouble for talking with me. (Yes, that is a thing.) He said no, they were just curious. I was scared for them.
you are very funny , china is not north korea ok, china right now is almost nothing different from western , i mean the social stuff. please dont pretend you are kind to say chinese people are nice, but their country bad, how can nice people built a evil country????china has right not to be islamic, china has right not to be sperated, its the only reason why it has one party now!!!
"Learning Mandrin in 4 days..."
Is using a translation app considered "learning" these days? 😂
Wait until people realize the translations are going to be slightly flawed more often than not which can make communication frustrating.
I dont use Tik Tok, but do have some empathy for the people who did, especially people who have careers as you mentioned. Seeing some of these clips not helping me stay empathetic...
my Chinese born Brazilian citizen says he left China because of it communist ways, like he even said Chinese are very racist... but they have rural areas that are poor which will have very nice scenery, but it's very poor, whereas the city is rich and very expensive... as to which American don't understand that china prices are the same as US, it's the CURRENCY that's cheap, not the economy as it's very oligarchy over there, you look how big China is the city's are all clumped where's as our of the city if looks like its shacks, but it's just more rural because it's poor.
this is called Culture Shock! because again they're not being told the truth about both sides but they'll have little facts to give to you, either to scare you or make you think you're better off wherever you are. in reality you're not I'm afraid no where is
@@TheHiddeniteYour friend is mostly correct, but things are genuinely more affordable in China than in the US, it's not just a difference in currency. You can be relatively poor in China but still afford simple luxuries like eating out in a restaurant multiple times a week. It's one of the things the country has got right.
@Elcore yeah I mean I mostly know things china likes to keep hidden or just straight up censors, but I just didn't put the whole lot what he told me in, mainly because you get this type of stuff everywhere(even in UK with EDL, and neo n@z pages, it's just well hidden here) where as china it looks like they just allow anything that doesn't bully xi jinping I guess) it's mad but I'm just thinking if MAGA cares about freedom of speech thank god they're American I guess xD
but again the people in china are shocked that Americans and EU get paid a whole lot more then them for working and get two days off, but they can't do much about it, or the ccp are just that powerful?
Are they gonna move to China 😆 🤣 😂
“I’m moving to China.” PLEASE DO.
It doesn't matter how hard you try you can't help stupid
Hey American politicians blame yourself it’s not like you’re even trying to make life easier for us. Especially you gop and corporate dems.
100% why no tictok for meeee
all for people making choices like learning about other countries. Just like this country however you're not really helping yourself or the people of china by becoming a Chinastan.
Xi dont like winnie the pooh
Been in China, lived there, worked there... in fact, will go back to work in China in the near future...
But omg, this is not about weather China does it better than the USA, but rather about people literally spread wrong information about China in both directions.
I am from Europe and the quality of life in China is only better, if you really only account for the absolute bare minimum and even then you have to be a bit picky, because the tabwater in China is not drinkable.
But you will absolutely get good food over there for little money - dont let channels like 'inside china' tell you otherwhise. If you dont buy garbage, you wont get garbage, it is as simple as that for literally any place in the world...
Now, if you say there is no social score, that is technically right, but the social judgement in China is harsh... ultra harsh. You will not go to jail or be prevented from doing stuff. But other people will absolutely treat you like a moron, if you act like one.
Also, it is always funny, when Americans always pit 'freedom' against 'safety'... In china you get your backpack and hnadbag scanned when you ride the underground. The govt will absolutely allways know where you are, because outside toilets there is no corner that is not on camera. I have yet to see news about public shootings in China or similar stuff...
Hey if you're a uyghur muslim you get to work for free. Might be why some produce is so dang cheap.
I disagree China is outpacing America and we are an Empire in decline. Please research from an economic standpoint. We are so so far in debt that we cannot keep this up and still be a competitive. China has a mix of capitalism and government ownership. The oligarchs have destroyed everything. Along with Reagan.
China is deep in an economic crisis right now, has enormous debt and is an oligarchy.
Glad to hear that banning Tik Tok and not X is doing the exact opposite of what was intended. This is what happens when you treat adults like children.
Bro, if people want to leave, let them leave, I don't get the problem and this video kinda feels like it's trying to dissuade people 🤔. It would be good for some Americans to get out there and actually see there's more to the world than just the US... 😏
And why do you suppose China wants people there? Could it be China wants to siphon off the best and brightest from America to set up businesses in China?
Passports are a good way to do that
I KNEW IT. When I started hearing all the praise over RedNote and our people finding out how "bad" we have it over here. Um, it isn't great over here, but I know living under communism is worse.
China imports a significant amount of agricultural products from the United States. They are actually not self sustaining when it comes to agriculture in support of their population’s needs.
Wow. Some GenZ are something special. If they had to live under the CCP, their tune would change quickly. All this deference for TikTok?
It's the CPC, not the CCP. That was an incorrect acronym that spread around decades ago, and because casual racism against the Chinese is so normalised, nobody bothered to check it, and people actually get hostile and defensive when you point out it is incorrect. Like how "Sun Tzu" is an incorrect transliteration of Sunzi from the 19th century that is still used because racism.
These Tik Tokers are hilarious.
I've lived in China. These people need to move to China. Not as a tourist, but for six months to a year. Very few of them will want to stay.
Yep. I pointed out elsewhere that there are a bunch of countries at least on a par with, if not objectively better places to live, than America, some of which even have English as a primary language. China is not one of these places. 😬
Red Note is currently working to separate foreign IP addresses to a separate server. I've actually seen a Chinese American who was using Red Note to learn more about her culture she was separated from and is now concerned(honestly she was teary eyed) she will be separated out with the rest of the non Chinese residents. Now to some extent, it makes sense that they want the algorithm to cater to foreign interests, which they might believe is different than the average Chinese user. But that is a very benign interpretation of why that is occurring- control of what people see and over how they interact is far more likely. 🤷🏽♀️
I don't think its so bad to have communication. The government invests in its' infrastructure. Maybe we need to do this..
Trying to become tiktok famous and make money off it is one of the dumbest things ever.
I hate TikTok, but as dumb as it is … you won’t starve if you’re decent at it.
"I'm a LITTLE buzzed" 😂
What the government should have done is regulate social media in general to prevent data collection they don’t want TikTok to do. But that would have upset some big donors, so they banned TikTok instead and pissed a bunch of people off, driving them further in the direction the government doesn’t want them to go.
media literacy and a solid foundation of understanding fallacies would do us some great now.
Finland teaches media literacy in grade school.
"Oh lord I've had to much tequila for this one."
The brainwashing was being administered on TikTok as well. Just more subtlety.
Start talking about Winney the Pooh on Red note.
What an American thing to say that there were freeways without many cars on them and also see that as some type of measurement for the quality of life. In most other countries we use the excellent public transport system instead, it's just more convenient. Who wants to start every morning in a gridlock when you can read a book instead on your way to work?
So you've never heard of New York. It's a very American thing to say because you don't grasp the distances that are being talked about. There is no public transportation for many Americans to get to work because they do not live in the city where their employment is, therefore a car is necessary to get to work. The mean commuter time in America in 2023 was 26.8 minutes, with 8.9% of total commuters commuting 60 minutes of more. It's a matter of where your job is vs where you can afford and want to live, not how great the public transport system may be.
@gnohms Wait...I don't grasp the distances, me coming from a country just as long as USA from north to south? USA isn't the only place on earth with vast distances you know. We still do it. And wow, you have ONE city with some sort of public transport, good for you.
Ohh, you have areas with poor vs rich people. Unheard of in the rest of the world.../s
@@MsAnpassad great petty argument you both had, any common ground found?
@PhillyDove Did I hurt your feelings? Poor thing. Maybe go to therapy after the shock of learning that USA aren't the best at much?
The law of unintended consequences is much like the iron law of prohibition.
The cure always makes the sickness worse
Is there no Europe-based social network?...
No, as a British person, I can tell you the Chinese are lying to you. Americans are free, and you don’t live in a corporation. The problem is that Americans don’t take advantage of the freedom democracy gives them- freedom to form political parties, freedom to stand in elections
All those kids in these clips should go and actually live in China for 2 years and then they can come back and say how great China is and how "free" the people there are.
9:52 FOXCON is a great employer. The workers get 6 hours off every day, no commute since they basically work from home. They put up safety nets around the building because too many employees were going to the roof to "clock out early"
They do have a larger selection of better cars at better prices than us. Electric vehicles, in particular.
They have free healthcare, no property tax, and their cars are much cheaper!
The Chinese character 紅 means "Communist Red party" in the 1950s, right?
Look up sewer oil videos and you'll never think of china the same
No attraction span, unwillingly to look deeper. Media has done a lot of damage.
How interesting that a commercial for Rednote popped up right when you brought up the topic of Rednote in your video.
They are all CORRECT! Bye, have fun with Winnie the Pooh as "president"! Don't come back
Social media seriously rots the brain.
I’m more concerned about US government accessing our private data than China.
Then you are an idiot.
The data thing is just an excuse. Our own companies are a way worse threat to American security than China ever will be.
Typical intelligence operative move. Try to shift back to an anti-American attitude.
Theres a guy named moon on youtube, and he does all kinds of videos spreading info and awareness on stuff like this. His video on tiktok scared tf outta me man. he covers how years ago it was talked about in congress how dangerous, and how they encouraged all members of the military to delete the app and to have any and all family members to do the same because it was a threat to national security. the meeting was like in 2018 or some shit. their data mining is considerably worse than FB or other apps, but eh whatever live and let live i guess.
I wouldn't hate TikTok if it wasn't all vertical video, every site is harvesting data
Ask em about Uighyrs.
Can we agree that authoritarianism is bad whether it comes from a socialist regime or a capitalist one?
As one with socialist leanings, I have problems with the PRC and their authoritarian policies, by the same token, the US’s slide towards fascism is troubling as well. But I’d rather go to Red Note to make my criticisms known than have my opinion censored on the low by Zuckerberg.