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The NBA went through the 3-pt revolution and overshot. Now that 3pt has led to much better spacing, it slowly corrects towards cutting basketball to find the open lanes. It is a normal cycle of overall improvement, we just witnessed the necessary experimentation period with bad basketball. In a few years we will be watching the next level of basketball with a lot of 3pt shooting that facilitates a ton of off-ball action for open-lane drives; it's gonna be beautiful!!
well, the 3pt shooting phase was because there were rules implemented to protect the shooters. You could literally not touch them at all. That's why James Harden was drawing these fouls so much in his MVP years. From what I know, the rules have been changed again to allow for a bit more contact against 3pt shooters
@@acmuscravageur3627 Ataman had 3 perfect seasons with Efes (the first was interrupted due to covid), but choked in the 2022/23 season. Željko choked in 2021/22 and 2023/24 - the latter happened due to lateral strikes, such as sabotaging the agreed signing of Mirotić and the manager who convinced Madar to leave the club. It's the same snake that convinced Spanoulis to go to Oly behind Željko's back. But Željko should've won the EL in the 2022/23 season, when he was prevented due to the logistics of Madrid and the scandalous EL suspensions. Željko's score against Ataman in the previous 2 seasons is 3:1 and he should NEVER be underestimated. I will remind you that Željko was written off by many in 2005, and then he won 3 more Euroleagues in the next 6 years. Both he and Ataman are specific coaches where there's no middle ground - they either go all the way or choke and it takes time for the team to adopt ideas. Of course, it's easier when you have great players with big bbiq, but that's not a guarantee either, that's why sports are unpredictable.
Lesson of the day: The best Euroleague coach of the last 5 years (at least) George Bartzokas and Olympiacos, shows the way to NBA of how to win the games ! FACT ! 😉👌🏻
In which universe is Bartzokas the best European coach in the last 5 years? He won 0 Euroleagues in that period, and managed to lose Sloukas, who brought the Euroleague to the biggest rival. There's not enough time for practice in this format, everything comes down to the selection and scouting of players, good work and practice is not decisive anymore. Ataman is a good example. He was nowhere in the previous system, but Ataman knows a large pool of American players. It's a sad fact of European club basketball, EL is a league of veterans and American players.
@@markomarkovic5729 The FACTS is the proof that coach George Bartzokas IS the BEST Euroleague coach of the last 5 years: - 3 Final Four's with Olympiacos in the last 5 years - 2 back to back Coach Of The Year awards (2021-2022 & 2022-2023) - Half the budget his team worth compared with ALL of the other big clubs - The most DOMINANT TEAM Europe has ever witnessed in a whole year (2022-2023), losing the title in the last 10 sec of Final game with a lucky 3 pointer from Sergio Llull + as you can see in the video, NBA teams starts taking lessons from coach George Bartzokas systems and team's playing style. Next please...
@@TrailersPlaygroundHD "- The most DOMINANT TEAM Europe has ever witnessed in a whole year (2022-2023), losing the title in the last 10 sec of Final game with a lucky 3 pointer from Sergio Llull" LMFAO Covid-season Anadolu Efes and 23-24 Real Madrid would like to have a word with you
@@TrailersPlaygroundHDlol, delusion at its finest Ataman won 3 Euroleagues during that period, and he would have won 4. Bartzokas has 0 and in the important cups Ataman always beat him. 24-10 Olympiacos the best? Even better than 24-4 Efes and 25-5 Fener? Who played against strong Russian teams as well? Statistics are a very simple concept. NEXT 😂
It is insane how tactically amateurish the NBA teams are. They are literally 30 years behind Europe. 12 year old Europeans play more mature than the NBA players. It is like no one in the NBA really understand that basketball is a team sport... It is insane that no NBA team has started to play like this until now considering what is at stake when it comes to money. But it is not just the NBA, looking at soccer and the MLS it is the same. The defence and overall movement of the players are like European junior teams. We also see this in hockey where the roaster superior teams of Canada and USA year after year struggle with objectively weaker teams like Sweden, Finland and Czechia in international championships because they seem to forget that they are competing in a team sport where the fluid movement of the team is at least 50% of the game. In all team sports, movement is the key to create space, moving just to create space for your team mates. I think its is about the mindset, the individualism in the US, it doesn't do well in team sports.
That’s just one of the way Olympiacos generates so many easy points. Bartzokas is also masterfully implements stagger/Spain PnRs, that makes these empty side sets an even bigger headache. Additionally, he is not only a tactical magician, he is also incredible at maximizing and improving the talent on his roster, as well as identifying it. He is the best coach in Euroleague, and the reason they lost last season was that his roster was by far the worst of the final 4 teams, and that the opponent caught fire from 3 on an elimination game.
Essentially the NBA is rediscovering basketball 🏀.... Before Bartzokas Giannakis was playing this and even before him Ioannides. And in the time of Ioannides NBA teams were doing this too, like Portland, Cavs, Hawks , Sonics even the Bulls. This is essentially what you have to do when you have a small forward that doesn't shoot threes. Dominique Wilkins made a career out of it by cutting into the basket being so fast and explosive that it was extremely difficult to guard him either off ball 🏀 or trying to stop him in the paint
Irony is that when Ioannides went to Olympiacos, with the exception of 1995 with Eddie Johnson, it was not a team famous for 3p,like PAOK or Panathinaikos
Kenny must have liked it in Golden State. Wonder why he didn't take a head coaching job earlier... Great coach! I feel like it's sustainable success... JB even doing a good job in Detroit now.
@@rebuildinyo30s KD doesnt like "movement" orientated systems. Other than the Draymond/Fans fiasco, he hated Kerr's constant movement "controlled chaos" system. He likes iso. go get buckets screen and attack the mismatch system but always complains about it.
He was going to be the Hornets next coach but he didnt like the situation or what they were building in Charlotte. Plus it gave him more time under Kerr and to coach in the olympics with France and Collet. And JB is doing the same thing he did with the Cavs. Great developmental coach but when players get in the primes, the offense will get stagnant under him like it did with the Cavs.
Could you maybe explain the Hukporti Trade to me? Rights to Ajinca for Rights to Hukporti and Cash is pretty normal, but why did the Mavs trade the draft rights to Koponen as well? I mean that dude retired two years ago.
It was just for sh**s and giggles. Gets rid of the hold as well for the mavs and the knicks like stockpilling on international draft rights like the spurs used to do.. Funny enough Petteri is an assistant coach for the spurs.
I think you misunderstand on which side of the Atlantic influences which... All these examples you mentioned where first introduced by Kerr and Golden State warriors when they won their championship in 2015. Of course it was based on the "beautiful game" of San Antonio but the multiple off ball screens, 45o cuts and big guy brings down the ball are all Kerr Golden state era basketball, not Bartzokas...
In nba players doesn't know to cut in the paint ! In 80's that's was a basic move for trailers to in the paint when going to attack Now it's just 1v1 an other stay far away of the rime They all want to shoot 3's But there is always more easy 2's that they miss by trying 3's
Europeans are living in their own imaginary world where they see themselves as the most superior basketball league/sphere. Dude, no one from the USA is analyzing European basketball, let alone implementing the strategy.
So, you are saying Europeans watch both Euroleague and NBA, and nba fans watch only the nba, but Europeans are the ones living in imaginery world??? 😂😂😂
How cute, but still its bullshit thing to say that cavs got inspired by any c ch in Europe, when for decades its happening the other way around. Just another vain and pathetic attempt to say that fiba basketball has something to contribute to the game, you just verifying onse again how ignorant you are for whats happening in the other side of Atlantic.
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Is this legal in Greece or president Mitsotakis will lock us up ?
As an Olympiacos fan that lives in Cleveland I love this video. Haha.
Bartzokas❤❤❤
That's because Vincent Collet has joined the Cavs coaching staff! 😊😅
And Collet had him on his coaching staff. And Kenny is running the same sets for Mobley that Collet ran for Wemby.
My two favorite teams in a video together? What is this a crossover episode?
Haha, lucky you!
Coach B ❤❤❤
The NBA went through the 3-pt revolution and overshot. Now that 3pt has led to much better spacing, it slowly corrects towards cutting basketball to find the open lanes. It is a normal cycle of overall improvement, we just witnessed the necessary experimentation period with bad basketball. In a few years we will be watching the next level of basketball with a lot of 3pt shooting that facilitates a ton of off-ball action for open-lane drives; it's gonna be beautiful!!
well, the 3pt shooting phase was because there were rules implemented to protect the shooters. You could literally not touch them at all. That's why James Harden was drawing these fouls so much in his MVP years. From what I know, the rules have been changed again to allow for a bit more contact against 3pt shooters
Somebody watches Coach B tricks! They work🤣
Thats why Coach B the professor is the best coach in Europe
😂😂😂😂
ZOC 😅😂😂😂😂😂😂
Looser looses all crucial games
The titles speak…….Zelicko no1 all time…….Ataman the best the last 10 years
@@acmuscravageur3627 Ataman had 3 perfect seasons with Efes (the first was interrupted due to covid), but choked in the 2022/23 season. Željko choked in 2021/22 and 2023/24 - the latter happened due to lateral strikes, such as sabotaging the agreed signing of Mirotić and the manager who convinced Madar to leave the club. It's the same snake that convinced Spanoulis to go to Oly behind Željko's back. But Željko should've won the EL in the 2022/23 season, when he was prevented due to the logistics of Madrid and the scandalous EL suspensions. Željko's score against Ataman in the previous 2 seasons is 3:1 and he should NEVER be underestimated. I will remind you that Željko was written off by many in 2005, and then he won 3 more Euroleagues in the next 6 years. Both he and Ataman are specific coaches where there's no middle ground - they either go all the way or choke and it takes time for the team to adopt ideas. Of course, it's easier when you have great players with big bbiq, but that's not a guarantee either, that's why sports are unpredictable.
@@acmuscravageur3627 what about Mr itoudis or coach of olymbiakos which greek teams have even the 1/3 of the budget of other European teams
Great analysis! Thanks!
Great piece of work, thank you!
Thank you!
Lesson of the day:
The best Euroleague coach of the last 5 years (at least) George Bartzokas and Olympiacos, shows the way to NBA of how to win the games !
FACT ! 😉👌🏻
In which universe is Bartzokas the best European coach in the last 5 years? He won 0 Euroleagues in that period, and managed to lose Sloukas, who brought the Euroleague to the biggest rival. There's not enough time for practice in this format, everything comes down to the selection and scouting of players, good work and practice is not decisive anymore. Ataman is a good example. He was nowhere in the previous system, but Ataman knows a large pool of American players. It's a sad fact of European club basketball, EL is a league of veterans and American players.
@@markomarkovic5729 The FACTS is the proof that coach George Bartzokas IS the BEST Euroleague coach of the last 5 years:
- 3 Final Four's with Olympiacos in the last 5 years
- 2 back to back Coach Of The Year awards (2021-2022 & 2022-2023)
- Half the budget his team worth compared with ALL of the other big clubs
- The most DOMINANT TEAM Europe has ever witnessed in a whole year (2022-2023), losing the title in the last 10 sec of Final game with a lucky 3 pointer from Sergio Llull
+ as you can see in the video, NBA teams starts taking lessons from coach George Bartzokas systems and team's playing style.
Next please...
@@TrailersPlaygroundHD "- The most DOMINANT TEAM Europe has ever witnessed in a whole year (2022-2023), losing the title in the last 10 sec of Final game with a lucky 3 pointer from Sergio Llull"
LMFAO Covid-season Anadolu Efes and 23-24 Real Madrid would like to have a word with you
@@TrailersPlaygroundHDlol, delusion at its finest
Ataman won 3 Euroleagues during that period, and he would have won 4. Bartzokas has 0 and in the important cups Ataman always beat him.
24-10 Olympiacos the best? Even better than 24-4 Efes and 25-5 Fener? Who played against strong Russian teams as well? Statistics are a very simple concept.
NEXT 😂
Who could’ve thought that moving could create spaces?!
COACH B MAGIC.
It is insane how tactically amateurish the NBA teams are. They are literally 30 years behind Europe. 12 year old Europeans play more mature than the NBA players. It is like no one in the NBA really understand that basketball is a team sport... It is insane that no NBA team has started to play like this until now considering what is at stake when it comes to money.
But it is not just the NBA, looking at soccer and the MLS it is the same. The defence and overall movement of the players are like European junior teams. We also see this in hockey where the roaster superior teams of Canada and USA year after year struggle with objectively weaker teams like Sweden, Finland and Czechia in international championships because they seem to forget that they are competing in a team sport where the fluid movement of the team is at least 50% of the game. In all team sports, movement is the key to create space, moving just to create space for your team mates.
I think its is about the mindset, the individualism in the US, it doesn't do well in team sports.
Augustas you are a true gavrosoul mate
another great analysis from Augustas!
That’s just one of the way Olympiacos generates so many easy points.
Bartzokas is also masterfully implements stagger/Spain PnRs, that makes these empty side sets an even bigger headache.
Additionally, he is not only a tactical magician, he is also incredible at maximizing and improving the talent on his roster, as well as identifying it.
He is the best coach in Euroleague, and the reason they lost last season was that his roster was by far the worst of the final 4 teams, and that the opponent caught fire from 3 on an elimination game.
Essentially the NBA is rediscovering basketball 🏀.... Before Bartzokas Giannakis was playing this and even before him Ioannides. And in the time of Ioannides NBA teams were doing this too, like Portland, Cavs, Hawks , Sonics even the Bulls. This is essentially what you have to do when you have a small forward that doesn't shoot threes. Dominique Wilkins made a career out of it by cutting into the basket being so fast and explosive that it was extremely difficult to guard him either off ball 🏀 or trying to stop him in the paint
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@@tsiftsaro άμα δεν ήμουν Έλληνας θα μου έλεγες και συγγνώμη.
Irony is that when Ioannides went to Olympiacos, with the exception of 1995 with Eddie Johnson, it was not a team famous for 3p,like PAOK or Panathinaikos
Team play will always, but always beat ISO player style. no matter how amazing one player is, his team will loose against a well setup teamplay.
Bartzokas bball
Really good breakdown guys! I also really liked that you focused on Mobley and pointed out what changed from the previous season.
Thank you!
Bartzokas, Saras and Ataman are TOP3. The rest are following them from behind.
He said they havent chnged players from last year but ty jerome has been huge fo the cavs.
We changed the game 🔴⚪ First with Kyle hines now with bartzokas
Kenny must have liked it in Golden State. Wonder why he didn't take a head coaching job earlier... Great coach! I feel like it's sustainable success... JB even doing a good job in Detroit now.
He was the HC for the Nets. And did a solid job. KD insisted they sack him for some reason.
@@rebuildinyo30s KD doesnt like "movement" orientated systems. Other than the Draymond/Fans fiasco, he hated Kerr's constant movement "controlled chaos" system. He likes iso. go get buckets screen and attack the mismatch system but always complains about it.
He was going to be the Hornets next coach but he didnt like the situation or what they were building in Charlotte. Plus it gave him more time under Kerr and to coach in the olympics with France and Collet. And JB is doing the same thing he did with the Cavs. Great developmental coach but when players get in the primes, the offense will get stagnant under him like it did with the Cavs.
If bartzokas dont with the eurolague with such a team next year with musa will win it
Cavs is playing like the 2014 San Antonio Spurs + 73-9 Warriors
They are not
He was doing his work on the Nets before he went back to be an assistant
The college system for basketball players in America is old and outdated. European players gain experience instead of wasting time at college.
Could you maybe explain the Hukporti Trade to me? Rights to Ajinca for Rights to Hukporti and Cash is pretty normal, but why did the Mavs trade the draft rights to Koponen as well? I mean that dude retired two years ago.
It was just for sh**s and giggles. Gets rid of the hold as well for the mavs and the knicks like stockpilling on international draft rights like the spurs used to do.. Funny enough Petteri is an assistant coach for the spurs.
Why you didn't mention Zeljko. Look at his 4 corner pick and roll. It's like a wheel motion dribble penetration.
9/10 NBA clips the defense is just TERRIBLE.... love to see smth new though
I think you misunderstand on which side of the Atlantic influences which... All these examples you mentioned where first introduced by Kerr and Golden State warriors when they won their championship in 2015. Of course it was based on the "beautiful game" of San Antonio but the multiple off ball screens, 45o cuts and big guy brings down the ball are all Kerr Golden state era basketball, not Bartzokas...
"Some" European?
if batzokas wouldnt reacted like a puppet and not so selfish he could made a great career at NBA.
Fun fact: USA athletes don't get drug tested during the Olympics
BASICALLY BAD DEFENCE...
Well yes. But think about it. Before they didn't punish that and now they do :)
In nba players doesn't know to cut in the paint !
In 80's that's was a basic move for trailers to in the paint when going to attack
Now it's just 1v1 an other stay far away of the rime
They all want to shoot 3's
But there is always more easy 2's that they miss by trying 3's
😂😂😂
Greeks think they invented basketball😂
Europeans are living in their own imaginary world where they see themselves as the most superior basketball league/sphere. Dude, no one from the USA is analyzing European basketball, let alone implementing the strategy.
Dude, you are Bosniak. Basketball doesn't even exist in your dictionary so please sit this one out.
dude nba just sucks. iso plays, shootimg and 0 defense.
So, you are saying Europeans watch both Euroleague and NBA, and nba fans watch only the nba, but Europeans are the ones living in imaginery world??? 😂😂😂
@@sllaveq most nba fans cant even find mexico on the map 🤣
europeans know and see the world more than usa people
How cute, but still its bullshit thing to say that cavs got inspired by any c ch in Europe, when for decades its happening the other way around. Just another vain and pathetic attempt to say that fiba basketball has something to contribute to the game, you just verifying onse again how ignorant you are for whats happening in the other side of Atlantic.