7 Changes Super Mario RPG NEEDS
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Sounds like you just want a sequel
Wouldn’t complain
That'd be cool
We all do, since 1996 😅
I like how this meme phrase backfired so badly. Everyone wanted an actual sequel to this game, not a remake, and if they were going to do a remake it should have had just as many improvements as a sequel would have, example: Pokemon remakes.
Luigi Mode: unlock an alternate story once you beat the game that has you play as Luigi instead of Mario, replacing Mario's fire damage attacks with thunder damage ones, changing the timing and increasing the damage of Luigi's jump attacks, making Luigi more prone to getting hit with fear status, etc.
Because mah boi Luigi deserves better than getting snubbed by Nintendo *and* Tanty. For shame, Tanty! *FOR SHAME*
Yo, I love this idea far more. A new game+ hard mode with Luigi replacing Mario.
As much as I love Mario & Luigi's Firebrand and Thunderhand; lets be real, the devs will take the easiest route and recolor the fireballs into green, similar to Smash Bros.
Bonus points if they could remake new animations for Luigi with the Triple Team attacks.
Love the idea of a hard mode. Was think Jonathan Jones could join the party since he plays such a small role.
The only stuff that is missing is a hard mode and maybe a NG+ mode.
Anything involving more content or other party members would be better used as ideas for a sequel made in the same engine.
That is something I would love to see it needs true sequel, the way the remake is sold should show Nintendo that.
Yeah well we aren't getting a sequel and for Pokemon all the current content gets added to the remakes usually so I don't know why a remake shouldn't have tons of extra content which is the actual point of remaking a game. If smrpg was built like a usual Pokemon remake we could have had Paper Mario party members.
@@rpgfanatic9719 idk we might they have already approved remakes for the paper mario based on how well SMRPG sold. Not to mention Nintendo and Square have a better relationship than they have for years so anything is possible. Maybe we can even get Geno for the next Smash 🤣
A little detail I would have loved to see in this remake is the easter egg in Booster Tower. Instead of using the SMB Mario sprite they could have used the original SMRPG Mario sprite to make reference to the original game. Or maybe at least use them both. During the first playthrough they could have used SMB Mario and after beating the game they could have used the SMRPG when going to Booster Tower for the Booster re-fight.
I was fully expecting this to be the case! I was kind of let down when I saw the 8-bit mario walk out from behind the curtain.
A huge missed opportunity.
I have to disagree on that one. That’s an amazing Easter. Egg needed to be kept. Remember not everyone playing The remake, has played the original.
I back the difficulty part alot. I was shocked how quickly I breezed through parts I remember being challenging in the OG without any grinding.
Okay hear me out about boss FP. I think stalling bosses is a completely valid strategy because it's slow and will require at least some resources. Culex is the only exception, but I think he could actually use a move that restores his FP.
Give him Osmose. It's a Final Fantasy spell, so it fits him. And taking the player's FP is a neat ability for a boss to have.
All those new characters and no mention of Luigi?
Everyone talks about Luigi all the time. I think my character choices are more interesting. 😉😉
If a Hard Mode would get rid of splash damage, it probably should get rid of triple moves and Toad assists entirely too. My vision of a hard mode skews closer to the classic gameplay without the remake-specific niceties like those, for better or worse. Maybe increase the frequency of special enemies, though, since they’re supposed to be harder anyways.
Agreed on most of the Hard Mode ideas. I'd want to keep Splash Damage and just buff the HP of the Punchinello bombs & Czar Dragon balls. I want to be able to swap Mario out.
I want Luigi as a New Game + character. I'd rather Mario's Ultra spells be replaced with other things. Full send on Rosa & Yoshi as characters. Bowser's Bowser Crush / Mechakoopa spell could deal damage based upon his Attack stat instead of his Magic, do the same for Crusher and give it a debuff effect and suddenly it's worth using.
How about giving all characters six spells? There's room to give Bowser & Geno more things to do. Bowser could spin in his shell and knock smaller enemies into a targeted enemy, like a boss, kind of like using the Hurly Gloves to attack with Mario but using the enemies on the field instead.
I would love a NG+ where you keep your level/full party and every enemy is scaled up while also upping the max level to like 50 and giving each character maybe 2 new spells. I think Mario needs something different than jump/fire so his other magic attack could be a ground pound that causes confusion and his ultimate attack would be a Bro attack with Luigi where they do fire/lightning/jump damage to everyone with a chance of causing burn, shock or confusion.
Loved your play throughs so far.
Thank you!
@@tantacles No problem! Oh, also, does splash damage also trivialize the fight with Kathy?
YES
I, too, hope this game gets a harder difficulty mode - preferably called "Superstar" cause that name's too good to pass up!
Regardless, there is an easy way to make SMRPG more challenging: play w/ all characters unarmed. You'll be surprised how well the game's mechanics - namely; splash damage, Triple Moves, Action Commands, buffing and debuffing moves/items - fall into place w/ this one rule. Overhelming player baseline power stats have a habit of killing the fun of battling - strategic thinking/planning - in RPGs, from my own years of experience. Hope this helps others out as well!
One final note: I think stats should EXCLUSIVELY play a supplemental role in the players ability to succeed in battle.
Great video with great feedback! I had an idea for a series for 2024 although Im sure you have a load of great stuff already planned but what about the 30 by 30 challenge where you and or the community picks 30 games for you to play over the year. They could be remakes, old games, new games or even games youve never played before but the catch is you can only play them for 30 minutes. After that you guve feedback about what you liked and didnt and creat some sort of rating system. At the end of the year the top 3-5 games get a full playthrough and review. Just an idea.
I love this idea!
Been really enjoying these videos. I watch them on my break at work.
This was fun! Thanks for the content!
I don't think there's much chance of your wishlist being implemented, but it was a fun watch!
I think the game needs a 100 floor battle tower/survival mode with bosses mixed it, much like bloody palace.
the most interesting part I found about Mario rpg remake is while is deff true its a bit too easy normally and low level's pretty tough cuz needing to get 0 exp, but otherwise a simple yet somewhat tedious item-grindfest,
I've found the difficulty actually becomes fairly difficult if one were to do either:
1. a unbroken Chain challenge, which's pretty self-explanatory
2. or carry 999(max chain number) chain challenge. you build the chain up from mushroom way goombas before fighting hammer bros.
it takes about 4 hours from doing it with optimal 3 goombas. and you carry it from beginning to end of game.
both types can be done normal or low-level and the chain shouldn't be broken at any point otherwise, its a reset to last save/auto-save.
and these're legit the only 2 extra added challenges the remake's got to offer, which's really nice and very fun.
I've personally found out that enemies you normally don't bat an eye at like Exor, Boomer, or Cloaker specifically, actually become very difficult in either chain challenge's low-level.
and thats cuz of very specific stuff you wouldn't think about. like Exor's "Carni-kiss" being literally instant and breaking the chain really easily if you don't watch out for it(its legit even faster than Raspberry's Insta-bite attack),
or the fact Cloaker uses the same attack animation for his knife throw and Slash attacks in the 2nd phase, which will throw you off everytime.
you have to get lucky you partial or perfect block Cloaker's 2nd phase attacks cuz there's no easy tell
Mario's maxed normal jump is a massive carry throughout the whole game, doing just as much or more than a rock candy in the later parts.
other than these only 2 extra challenges alongside solos, I deff agree this game coulda used a hard mode.
but I guess in a way, the low-level unbroken/999 carry chain challenges I described are actually this game's "hard mode" in and of itself. cuz it really shows how important the timed blocks are vs most late-game bosses, which one normally wouldn't notice or think of normally-
1:02 To put into perspective how the ability to guard against all enemies' single target special attacks makes the game easier than before, look at the battle against Whuhoh (known as Hidon back in the original SNES game), a false treasure chest optional boss in the Sunken Ship…
For the Single Character Challenge (read the rules in Amazing Ampharos' guide on GameFAQs for proper explaination), Mallow and Peach (then known as Toadstool) were not recommended to fight Hidon head on during the first trip to the Sunken Ship. The main stumbling block is Hidon's Carni-Kiss, which is sometimes used as a counter to physical attacks, inflicts 2× normal attack damage, and (in the original game) is unguardable. Because Hidon is also immune to lightning, both Thunderbolt and Shocker are ineffective against it.
Amazing Ampharos suggested using the Energizer + 2× Rock Candy Cheese to get by Hidon and obtain the Safety Badge. Over a decade ago, I suggested that Mallow and Toadstool wait until they acquire new weapons from Seaside Town (Ribbit Stick and Parasol respectively) to challenge Hidon.
However, in the remake, all of Whuhoh's single target special attacks (including Carni-Kiss, Willy Wisp, and Flame Stone) are guardable, meaning that Mallow or Peach can defeat it on the first trip through the Sunken Ship (without grinding) with the aid of a Yoshi-Ade. Survival mostly comes down to timed defense against almost all of Whuhoh's attacks and the Mini Goombas' attacks.
Honestly you could even have Yoshi be an optional character that you get for beating Boshi
From what I've heard the Bowser / Geno triple attack buff increases the party's Attack, Magic Attack, and Speed stats by a percentage for 3 turns. But the way it does it is a bit... odd. It basically triggers the same buff you get from the combo gauge (physical attack and speed are equivalent to the 5+ combo bonus, magic is the equivalent of Mallow's 3-combo gauge boost). But it doesn't stack with the normal combo buffs because the game basically treats it as the same multiplier mechanic, so since Geno already gives the Speed and Physical Attack buffs while in the party its a bit redundant if you're good at keeping your combo gauge active, though nice in a pinch if you drop combo. Magic is solid though since you don't get that buff with that group normally and Mario and Geno have pretty good offensive magic.
Poor DK. I wish he was a team member. It would have be easy to write him in. You could even have him as a boss fight first before he joins you. Well I always got Mario cart to race as the big lug.
I'm pretty sure you deserve more subs. Great content.
I strongly agree the game needs to have a hard mode.
Doesn't matter what they do. There is always stuff for people to complain about. SMRPG was always a good and easy game for new RPG newcomers. Want a challenge play the SMRPG armageddon hack.
Thank you, this comment is a breath of fresh air. I'm getting sick of all the negativity around every game that comes out now, it's like you can't talk about any new game without people (who supposedly love the game) bringing up their complaints and criticisms about the game at every opportunity, and it's always the same complaints and criticisms that other people have already repeated ad nauseum over and over again.
@tessaPMpro I'm just a fan of video games. I enjoy them for what they are trying to accomplish. If it's just plain horrible yeah I'll have some gripes. But this is Mario. It's a kids video game character. Mario games aren't suppose to be hard. I see a lot complaints on games that are free downloads and free to play. They complain about the graphics, gameplay etc. Like hey you're complaining about a FREE game
Every time i hear Illusion of Gaia music in your videos it makes me smile
My face was in this video :D , more seriously, I need to pick up this game it looks awesome!
rosalinas ultimate weapon should be a LUMA not a toad
If you want a Mario RPG challenge, there's this game no one talks about that is available on the Switch and Steam.
It's Touhou Shoujo Tale of beautiful memories, it's a Mario RPG clone/fan game based on the original but has Touhou characters instead, it has a Hard mode and a Lunatic mode that you unlock once you beat the game once, suprisingly good for an indie game, also surprisingly well balanced compared to the original , ignore the game's art i am sure you will have a good time and it will for sure test your skills in Hard and specially Lunatic difficulty where all enemies have double turns.
Really worth playing its made for the mario rpg fans as it has it's own charm , it's just like mario rpg and has many improvements over the original such as being able to swap the protagonist after you beat the game once, if you haven't played it you are missing out man, its a love letter to mario RPG.
I disagree with most of the fixes you've thought up, but I agree that the problems you were trying to fix do indeed exist.
I agree with most of these takes, but my belief as why mario rpg remake stayed relatively the same is because of the reception that ff7 remake got. I believe nintendo was just playing it safe by keeping the remake about 95% faithful to the original. I hope tho that this encourages nintendo to make an actual sequel to this amazing game.
Wasn't the FF7 Remake almost universally loved?
@@BJGvideos ehh not really some people didnt really like the plot change.
I want luigi to play as and I want hard mode
Maybe a Luigi mode once you best the game like Mario Galaxy?
@@rustyjones7908 yess pleaseee!
Me personally would just like to see them bring Luigi back, he was in the code at one point, if nothing else give us some Easter eggs of the early concept game. As far as a hard mode just let the OG game be unlock-able or just scale the difficulty straight across, heck removing spasm damage would already crank up the difficulty, I think they did nerf a lot of bosses HP though cause I ripped right though the axem rangers and I remember that being a super hard fight in the OG
I probably don't have much in the realm of ideas seeing that I've only played the original, but I do at least relate to wishing I could use one character from the start to the finish without it being only Mario.
Based on what changes you suggested, might be fun to watch you tackle smrpg armageddon. No new playable characters but you can switch mario out
Why not have Bowser be the only one who does splash damage? I agree on giving him breath as well, even with bad magic a foe weak to fire would still take a good amount of damage but Bowser's two damage spells should be based off his physical attack as well instead of magic and they'd be better.
This is an awesome idea
This is an awesome idea
@@tantacles glad you like em. Btw I had posted info about a "hard mode" mod in your discord a while back. It pretty much just makes every enemy and boss a special enemy. Which works for me imo. I like the idea of having a little bonus like tons of frog coins as a reason to play a "hard mode"
Idk how well it would work on bosses at the end game (Culex has 9999 hp n all and Idk if it will go beyond that). But a ton of special foes you can't Geno whirl to cheat would certainly make the game harder. Granted yeah you have to mod your switch to do this. Wish Square would just make it an official mode.
I had no idea Breezy made action commands easier. I just got on my file and did 100 super jumps on nearly my 5th try. It really does make it so much easier. It took me nearly an hour my first time on normal
Have you tried Mario RPG Armageddon?
0:23 But hey, you won't be crafting any ole theory... they'll be GAME THEORIES!!! Thanks for watching 😎
I love all the mechanics there really good but man they made it to easy they don't really get to shine well till post game so I'm hopeing for a hard mode or a sequel to really take advantage of all the new mechanics cuz there fun to use (special encounters can kill you if your not paying attention)
Also I love all the little extra stuff the did dialog little commentary etc I do love this game it is a perfect remake but man for veterans we need a something little more but love your videos
(That post game just really really wants me have a sequel so bad or idk dlc adventure)
I agree a hard mode would be a great update and switching out Mario would make for better replay I’d also think they should add new characters maybe a toad and Luigi
Am I trippin or did you forget to put the link to the video to the tier liest in the scriddily deedly doo, as you said you would at 6:53 ?
You are correct! Fixed and thanks for the reminder!
tbch Geno shouldn't get a lightning spell "because he came from the sky" because he came from *the stars.* Notable difference. There's not much lightning in space.
I would really like Luigi or Bowser Junior to be in it since we know Luigi is there already.
I wish they added an extra fight for the 4th star. It would've made for a nice surprise for veterans
Imagine if the Armageddon version gets a remake!
no
@@Megaman-2407 why??
@Tantacles: You are saying this before the post game boss. Poss game boss are one of the new thing added after you beat the game for the first time and does one are suppose to be the hard mode. I don't know how breezy mode will affect does hard mode Boss. Since in the middle of the game you are in normal mode you can switch to breezy on the fly, so just because of that fact I doubt they will restrict the player from the harder boss fight after beating the game just because you stay on breezy mode. So breezy mode should not be that diffrent from Normal mode to not nerf too mush the harder Boss fight that happen after beating the game. Also if the game was really difficult to begin with, then it would make the harder boss fight after the game impossible to beat. I have not finish the game yet so I have no idea if you can play the full game in hard mode?
yea I am with you with a hardmode ... the game feels easier in the later parts when you nail the action commands. And with the trio attacks they felt overall a bit to weak for my taste in not doing much more damage like spells. About the vid you talked a lot about new character but I felt that would be a bit out of question.
The nice thing about having SMRPG remake this far away from its original release is the possibility of DLC. Nintendo could very well make updates to get more people interested in it.
Maybe Nintendo will add Hard Mode like they did for Metroid's Dread Mode
What more do you want they did a spectacular job I mean if you want more play mario rpg armageddon
I love these ideas. Would love DLC to make up for it or a sequel. Let's also have Luigi as a playable character.
"Imagine pokemon without crits" so a better game?
Would it be possible to give it a SM64-type camera?
I literally see no reason why they shouldn't add a hard mode. The game is essentially much easier with these new features.
I'm really hoping, if Nintendo truly does listen to feedback, the fans will make it loud and clear for a new Hard Mode update that challenges you.
What's the music that was playing at around 3:15?
Chrono Cross SS Zelbess
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I really really really missed some voice acting, or at least some voice noises wtf.... at least Bowser do "BWARRGH" sounds sometimes, but the rest of the characters being COMPLETELY silent feels so wrong. They even move their mouth when they talk...
But yes game was too easy.
ok, but if you can switch mario out, you'd need new triple attacks for geno/mallow/bowser, geno/mallow/peach, peach/bowser/mallow, and geno/peach/bowser (i think thats the combos missing) what kind of effects would you wanna see?
So I actually don't think you'd need them. When I compare this game to Chrono Trigger, Crono is the only one with native triple attacks with everyone, so you get a little reward for using him.
@@tantacles i have not played chrono trigger (i know i should) so i didnt realize that was a mechanic of it. very cool
Being able to switch out Mario would open so many fun gameplay changes and diversity in an otherwise pretty cookie cutter game, that would be such a fun idea :( I’m debating on re-allocating people’s stats on a new playthrough just to shake things up
I wish you could have all the characters on the screen, like in Chrono Trigger. I hate that fake looking disappear-into-body effect. Sometimes the Japanese are just too loopy.
I'll be honest, as a kid I got walled at the Czar Dragon/Axem Rangers
Dumb kid, bad at games, you know the deal but despite everything I still loved the game. Same with DKC2, never beat the game as a kid didn't prevent me from enjoying what I *could* beat (worlds 1 to 3)
I don't mind if games have an easier difficulty, but when the *only* difficulty is easy that can take away the experience from someone more experienced because they are never challenged. It's like having a brain teaser, you know something to warm up your brain and get you thinking and all the questions are what's 1 plus 1? What's 2 minus 2?
I want a hard and very hard mode
All these ideas are great, but one thing... Don't change smrpg:lotss, make it a sequel.
I’d agree I’d like to switch out Mario
In a new game plus and have a different game start would be cool too
noo make geno rain star meteors
Playing this new version for the first time. I played the original…and honestly it feels outdated. This new generation of players wants more…we needed changes on this but they were too tame and faithful to the original.
Pokemon without crits would be amazing. This isnt the same thing. I agree you shoildnt be able to blk magic.
It's too brainless. Needed a hard mode, yeah.
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18:29 HUH
If this is a comment to say that yo don’t like ms mowz… smh
@@tantacles She's ok ig
Instead of having Rosalina as a playable character, i'd love do see a cameo of her as the "higher authority" Geno mentions, that would be massive to all of us lore enthusiasts
Interesting. With Yoshi and Rosalina with some work they could work fine.
Ms. Mowz i cant complain because Culex exist so either her be optional or a secret like Vincent and Yuffie from final Fantasy.
My opinion i would have Luigi and a new character like Geno and Mallow.
With Luigi he can swap Mario out since they are the Mario brothers. However give him powers akin to the power ups of various games.
The new character should be someone who had always admired either Bowser or someone that isn't Mario and wants to journey first then help with the story
Dude, just enjoy the game or make one with all the things that you want... Stop complaining about a children's game.
Dude, just enjoy the video or make one with all the things that you want… Stop complaining about a fun video.