Tizzle, Exactly! NASA & Feds have stolen so many trademarks, patents, and copyrights that the people they stole them from are rolling in their graves with angst.
Sure but that doesn't mean you let a branch off franchise that wasn't half as good as the Rocky movies ruin the Legacy. Let's face it Creed can't hold a candle to Rocky as far as quality, story, acting, profits, marketing, etc..
Stallone put food on the table of thousands of actors, directors, producers, cameramen, stuntmen, grips, animators, carpenters, set designers, musicians, etc. He's created art the world enjoys.
Sylvester Stallone speak with Jessica Shaw about the struggle and heartbreak of having KNOWINGLY GIVEN producer Irwin Winkler own the rights to his character and franchise, 'Rocky'. This was before he hit hit the heavy DNA damaging HGH!
@@wrf8245 yeh I love how you fools took what he said completely out of context. I will explain what he said for you. If you aren’t willing to get the vaccine, to protect the people around you who are medically vulnerable, and are willing to put them at risk because YOU can’t be bothered to be thoughtful towards other people who have weakened immune systems, then you have no right to your freedom when you want to use that very freedoms to harm others. THINK for once in your damn life. Your actions, or lack thereof, have consequences. And people don’t deserve to get sick or die because you can’t be bothered to get a vaccine.
A modest, humble gentleman with integrity. And in my opinion and underrated actor. Everyone knows that he created Rocky. It speaks volumes about the man's character that he doesn't care about the money himself; he's only concerned about his family's security and welfare. A warm, classy and charismatic guy.
@@raynaudier8622 I never understood how he came off as like he REALLY needs the money to "feed his family" or something. Even without the rights to Rocky, he should well and truly be completely set for the rest of his elderly life ON TOP OF completely assuring his family's future.
Crushing story. He did so much work for that film. He even forced the studio's hand to allow him to act in it. They were dead set on not allowing him to play the lead. He was willing to just tear apart the script instead of allowing another guy to play the lead.
@@MrDuds1984 I've read several biographies about people who gave up ongoing cash cows for a short term gain, then that property just increased exponentially with the years: Stan Lee and Berry Gordy gave away their rights for pennies. Brian Wilson's dad sold his whole Beach Boys catalogue for a fraction of its worth.
I don't think Stallone is fair here. Winkler and Chartoff gave him a chance when nobody else would and they mortgaged their own houses to cover all necessary expenses. If Rocky wasn't financially successful, they would probably lose more than Stallone who didn't pay a cent for it. Stallone had more than one chance to buy the rights, he had enough money, but he doesn't want to pay for it, he wants it for free, and Stallone is actually very greedy in real life, he's obsessed with money and he tries to earn bucks near any corner he can, from NFT to endless unnecessary sequels to his franchises. James Cameron doesn't own Terminator franchise, it was the price he had to pay to make it, now he's very rich he had tons of chances to buy it back, but he doesn't care about it and just let it go. Stallone should do the same or try to buy it back if he wants it so much.
@@kdscool1536 Well said. Sounds like Stallone is being manipulative. Imagine you build an art gallery - you finance it, you risk your house by putting it up as collateral, you design it, you build it, from the bricks to the insulation to the installations and everything else. Someone stars in it as live art. You pay him loads of money. The art gallery eventually closes - and then he wants to own it?! And if you say "no, that's not in the contract and it's not a normal thing", he goes on talk shows and tries to make you look like the nasty person? That's basically what Stallone has done. It's not the slightest bit normal nor expected for an actor to own a movie - there are rare exceptions, but in general, the producers make it, the actor stars in it. Simple as that.
@Jason Skinner And that gallery owner equivalent paid the artist. The producers make plenty of money yes - if their film does well. They had to put their houses up as collateral and if the film had not done well, they'd have been screwed. They risked loads of their money. The actor risked none. The actor gets paid regardless, especially if they are part of an actor's union such as Equity. The actor didn't create the movie - they were simple an aspect of the whole thing.
Sounds like Stallone is being manipulative. Imagine you build an art gallery - you finance it, you risk your house by putting it up as collateral, you design it, you build it, from the bricks to the insulation to the installations and everything else. Someone stars in it as live art. You pay him loads of money. The art gallery eventually closes - and then he wants to own it?! And if you say "no, that's not in the contract and it's not a normal thing", he goes on talk shows and tries to make you look like the nasty person? That's basically what Stallone has done. It's not the slightest bit normal nor expected for an actor to own a movie - there are rare exceptions, but in general, the producers make it, the actor stars in it. Simple as that.
The original Rocky movie changed my life. Made me believe, made me think and plan ahead. Motivated me to work-out and become my best self, physically and mentally. Loved the character, and all the characters in the movie, even Butkus. 9 years later, I named my one and only child Adrianne. That movie made me a better man. Pretty sure I am not the only one.
Yeah me too.his Rocky movies are my total thing..I workout all the time I'm 46 and I do exercises like a 19 yr old..lol I workout like Rocky 4 always,Rocky 4 is my life
Bundle of rights are supposed to be guaranteed by laws of copyright, but somehow Sylvester Stallone got swindled? That is outrageous. Sir, you are an amazing icon for American people and we love what you have given us. Strong and resilient male strength is sadly in danger of being suffocated today. May the Creator protect you, and grant you full health and length of days.
Amen we reap what we sow and if we are lucky we are saved everlasting torment for our wrongdoings by the grace of Jesus Christ, who was without sin, but gave His life for us on the cross, was buried and rose again on the third day. Peace and love to all who read this.
How did he get swindled? Stallone has made no legal case yet. He signed an actor/writer's contract like anyone else. Now he's bitching and moaning about it as if he has the right to break his word in a contract? That's called breach. He also lied about how he turned down money for the script. He sold the damn script to Rocky! He omits that. Then he wanted it back and couldn't get it. Henry Winkler was asked to mediate for him and Henry got it back.
@@landor7610 Yes, he has seller's remorse, but is spinning it to play the 'poor-me I got swindled' victim. And they are letting him get away with it here!! It's the LIE by SLY that chafes. Have we lost the ability to be honest and tell the truth in these shows?
I love the movie Rocky and subsequently Rocky Balboa. Especially, the speech to his son of if you feel your worth something get what you’re worth but, roll with the punches and move forward. That speech hits because I went through something like that in the Navy. Every word to that speech resonates.
I'll never understand why Ryan Coogler didn't make the movie about Apollo Creed's actual son (seen in Rocky II and IV and mentioned in Rocky III). But no, he had to go and make Apollo a philanderer...
Carva Lone, "ripped off"? Stallone sold the "Rocky" screenplay rights to producers Winkler and (now-deceased) Robert Chartoff, in exchange for MGM/United Artists letting him play the lead role (the studio wanted a star to play Rocky); "Our commitment to him, was that he could star in it," Winkler told The Hollywood Reporter. "We convinced United Artists to give us the money to make it; they would only give us a limited amount of money, & they said that we had to put up our houses as collateral. We really mortgaged ourselves to make sure that we brought it in on time, and we did." For "Rocky" (the first one), in addition to the money for selling the screenplay & his acting salary, Stallone also got *10 net points*, which earned him at least $2.5 million on the back-end. For "Rocky" II & III, in addition to acting salary & directing salary, Stallone got millions on the back-end. He sold the screenplay for the right to star in the movie [as a total unknown with no box-office draw], AND salary, AND millions on the back-end. Getting his foot in the door allowed him to write 20 movies, star in over 77 movies, direct 8 movies, have a movie franchise that lasted 42 years, and amass a net worth of $400 MILLION dollars. His net worth is 4X as big as the producer Winkler. I think he got the better of the bargain😂😂
This was weird, this was the next video after I watched HENRY Winkler on a podcast talking about he was pretty much the reason Stallone played Rocky, he convinced the studio that they sold it to sell it back as the studio didn't want Stallone playing it, Henry of course was peak Fonz at that time. Then the next video is another Winkler that screwed him over. What are the odds.
Rocky was one of my favorite movies as a kid. I feel like no other actor could have played his character at the time. As a creator, I know what he is feeling... I have guesses how he was able to get the rights...
You know the story about how he gave rocky to Henry winkler (no relation to Irwin) and moved in with him in Hollywood while he was playing Fonzie, he took it to the studios and they bought it, he took the money back to Sylvester, and he said they liked it, and Sylvester said you told them I get to be Rocky right? Henry said no that's not what they wanted, and Sylvester got mad, and said go back and get my script, I'm not selling it unless I play in it, and direct it, so Henry dragging his butt all the way to beg them for the script back and they reject the money, Henry then said, well I'm on the number one show on television right now, and I will quit if you don't give me back the script because I didn't know the writer wanted full control, so they relented and finally gave it back, so he goes home where Sylvester and his two great big dogs are living on Henry's couch and hands him the script, and said he had to pull out the Ace in the hole gambling bluff and we are both lucky it worked
Sounds like Stallone is being manipulative. Imagine you build an art gallery - you finance it, you risk your house by putting it up as collateral, you design it, you build it, from the bricks to the insulation to the installations and everything else. Someone stars in it as live art. You pay him loads of money. The art gallery eventually closes - and then he wants to own it?! And if you say "no, that's not in the contract and it's not a normal thing", he goes on talk shows and tries to make you look like the nasty person? That's basically what Stallone has done. It's not the slightest bit normal nor expected for an actor to own a movie - there are rare exceptions, but in general, the producers make it, the actor stars in it. Simple as that.
As a creator, I understand those emotions. As a businessman, I still understand those emotions. There is no way I wouldn't sell him back the rights to what is basically his life's work. He's done other things, but this is his baby. I may negotiate to get a percentage in perpetuity, but I would never just keep the rights. That's greed of the ultimate kind.
No, Daniel you'd never earn a coin . He sold the rights to it and i am not understanding why he is now jumping from platform to platform to trash it while pretending he likes MJB . He has not been swindled out of the rights , he needed to money and pawned his own Gold. I would not sell it back to him. we all go thru the same hardships as he does in life. you sell sum you like when you are hungry and wish you had it later .
@@danielgarth3806 hes probably racist and assumes since your black and mpre than half of black americans are on welfare you are too. Probably a Joe Biden supporter
Rocky is one of the greatest movie ever made. Along with Back to the Future, Terminator, Jurassic Park, The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, The Sound of Music among other greats.
My mom's best friend dated him in Switzerland around the time of the Vietnam war. Her name was DeeDee Larson. She said he was really nice and fun. So if you are reading this. Hey yo Rock. DeeDee says hi.
Stallone is a living icon . You are owed ,your rights to Rocky. It's not right 😤 win people feel like they can take what's not there's. God Blessing will win in the end. My favorite actor. Sly Stallone keep faith 🙏
This is Stallone nonsense. Why should his kids inherit a character he sold and made millions from? What's that got to do with his kids. Let them earn their own way in the big world.
No mention of Chuck Wepner, the actual fighter his story was based on. He didn’t dream all this up, just wrote about Wepner and added dramatization. Great writing, but didn’t write from scratch.
Yeah, there's always going to be a gold digger somewhere. To me, you will always be ROCKY; it will always be one of your best performances, Syl. ALWAYS. The motion and energy, the character and the story...simply amazing! And thank you!
Apparently, Stallone sold the rights in return for the opportunity to play the lead role. Of course, if someone else had played the role it may not have been any good.
That really sucks. I don't blame him for his feelings towards Creed III. Hollywood can be a pretty insidious place to work and this demonstrates it. Irwin is also 91 years old, so who knows. If the guy dies and Sly is still around, maybe he/the studio can get the rights back and he can do what he wanted to do for his kids.
''for his kids''? LOL Gimme a break 'His kids' have more than enough . Let them work for a living ; get real jobs. (Not gonna happen) I mean this is so ridiculous - just because their silly father made a dumb movie a hundred years ago, they've got to be setup for life.
Can't feel sorry for Sly after what he did with the script of Dredd. Research it and you'll see how he used his Hollywood influence to screw over the people who owned the rights to Dredd and now he wants to whinge that it happened to him. I call double standards and he should wake up to himself.
Sly is the Man, Tulsa King just became my favorite new show, it's outstanding, I knew I would like it but never thought that 1st episode would be as good as it was, Badassery and unintentional Comedy blend perfectly here, counting down the minutes till episode 2
Sly is synonymous with rocky, he wrote it and so much of his persona surrounds it along with many other people. That’s why we say “Keep punching”. We say that to, about and in honor of Sylvester Stallone and no one else.
Imagine writing and starring in the movie 50 yrs ago and doing the subsequent sequels, but you don't own your baby after all these yrs. I feel him when he says I wanted to leave it to my children.
This is Stallone nonsense. Why should his kids inherit a character he sold and made millions from? What's that got to do with his kids. Let them earn their own way in the big world.
One thing that people willfully want to overlook is the fact that Stallone has no gripe against Mbj ... only winkler.. because we know that Micheal B.Jordan holds Sylvester Stallone in very high regard and has NEVER disrespected Stallone.... very important... because I can see that people are going to try to link Mbj into this beef... to use as an excuse to destroy the movie for personal reasons
@@johnwebb2442 .... and another MAJOR important thing that these people TRYING TO DRUM UP A FALSE BEEF TO SABOTAGE THE CREED MOVIES....is that MBJ ALWAYS GIVES CREDIT TO,HOLDS IN THE HIGHEST REGARD SYLVESTER STALLONE.. EVEN SYLVESTER STALLONE SAID HIMSELF THAT HIS BEEF ISN'T WITH MICHAEL B.JORDAN..IT WAS WITH SOMEONE ELSE... AND THAT HE WOULD ACT AGAIN WITH JORDAN AGAIN IF HE COULD...NO PROBLEM
Stallone sold the rights and is now crying about it. Winkler funded the film when Stallone was an absolute nobody. If there's a guy who gets a lack of credit for Rocky, due to Stallone's ego, it's the director, John G Avildsen. I've never once seen Stallone give him credit in an interview. The Director is King on a film. It rides or dies on his back.
Stallone is one of my all time favorites. For me Rocky is number one on my top 5 movie list. My childhood was full of Rocky and Rambo, so if he’s not in it I’m not seeing it.
I'm not sure what the issue is here. So, Sylvester Stallone wrote the story line and script for the original film (and subsequent two or three after that). Presumably, MGM paid him for the rights to the film, produced and released it, and years later, subsequently sold those rights on to someone else. I would think this is fairly standard in the film and music industry.
It is, this is just a greedy actor who wants more creative control and more money. That whole legacy passing onto his children thing is bs, it's why he didn't go into any real details about his claims or what he FEELS like is owed to him. He's just bitter and jaded about a new writing team's direction of a movie franchise he built in terms of story development, but he never once owned the rights to those movies.
You are sad and miserable! Imagine this, imagine God withheld his forgiveness from you. You are done! The parents and families of shooting victims even forgave the shooters who brutally murdered their loved ones. Raped victims forgiving their predators. You are miserable and you gloat in your unforgiveness!
@The Rocky Guy "Stallone - who sold the rights to producers Winkler and Robert Chartoff - said his anger came from the fact that the original deal deprived him of an equity stake in the franchise, a longterm asset that could be passed to his children after his death." - Variety
It was actually Chuck Wepners (The Bayonne Bleeder) Character. Stallone paid him off and made him sign a non disclosure agreement when the two had a meeting on the set of the movie Copland . So let's be honest Sly!?
You seem to be like me ... a Right side kind of person. Maybe do some research before praising Stallone. He backed the Brady bill and is anti gun even though he got filthy rich by using guns in most of his movies. He's an actor and nothing more.
If you were employed by a company as an carpenter and made a chair, you would not own the chair, the company would. If you worked as a chef in a hotel and made a meal, you would not own the meal, the hotel would. I am trying to understand the logic behind Sly's comment. 🤔Actors are also EMPLOYEES. Sean Connery does not own James Bond franchise, Marlon Mrando does not own Godfather films - studio does. I guess it is because he feels like a father to Rocky films..... The same can say musicians - Beatles, Pink Floyd - they do not own the music, studio does. There were payed for it.
If its not about the money then what does it matter who owns it? He still created it and can take full credit for that. I mean if your company built the Empire State Building, you dont have to own the building to have a legacy of what you built.
To reduce his argument to a chair and a dish of lasagne is absurd. The rocky story has changed millions of lives and forever will. This is Slyvesters creation. Before this character is so iconic you can't use examples like you just did.
@@Kev80ification I am not trying to compare the professions, I am comparing the realtionships between the company bosses and people who work for them. Actors are also EMPLOYEES. I know that some pople think about them like some gods but that is different story. 🤭
@@Pavelflash Here's where your analogies fall apart; Stallone wrote the story, screenplay, and insisted he play Rocky and the direction did not deviate from the story. It was all his predetermined writing and direction. Avelston was basically just a stand-in consultant "director" for Rocky 1 and Stallone officially directed 2, 3 and 4. Stallone did all the work prior to becoming an "employee". Winkler was simply the money to make the film. Those truths pretty much make your analogy look really ignorant. Secondly, Stallone said in the interview, maybe you missed that too-that things should be equal, not Winkler taking the higher % of the revenue AND the rights. Basically your analogy favors Stallone in truth; Stallone created, wrote, directed and starred. Winkler paid for the production. That is not what you described and its certainly not the typical showbiz scenario you laid out. He wasnt just some actor who got chosen and employed. In fact, Stallone waa so down financially that he sold the movie rights, NOT the franchise, for a measley 35k because he needed the money so bad. So basically, Winkler was just another greedy Hollywood punk who took advantage of Stallone, basically stole the rights by paying peanuts, THEN, stole the bigger cut and the story creation rights. That makes Winkler a scumbag weasle. Do you understand now?
@@-LAH hey good question. I just loved how Rambo is a good dude trying to just chill and survive but he has a lot of integrity and decides not to take any abuse. His strength and discipline give him power. You could say the same for millions of actual veterans.
This is Stallone nonsense. Why should his kids inherit a character he sold and made millions from? What's that got to do with his kids. Let them earn their own way in the big world.
Nope. A deal's a deal. Winkler took enormous risks, and Stallone was paid handsomely. Had it not worked out and Winkler went into debt, Stallone wouldn't have bailed him out.
@@michaelpalumbo4880 This isn’t about money, both have generational wealth. Sly wants to pass Rocky to his children. Winkler is under no obligation legally, morally not so sure.
Okay, this makes a LOT more sense. Stallone isn't angry that he doesn't own the rights as much as he's angry that Irwin Winkler somehow owns the rights, rather than United Artists/MGM. There is a way Stallone can get the rights back. Since the movie was made before 1978, the author has to wait 55 or 56 years to terminate their agreement (after 1978 is 35 years). If Stallone can hang on until 2031 or 2032, then he can get the rights back. He may have to sue (because Hollywood producers are notoriously jerks), but he'll win. If Stallone can't make it till then, he can leave instructions for his estate to get the rights back at that time. Wes Craven's estate did the same thing for the rights to "A Nightmare on Elm Street" in 2019. Sly can get the rights back for his family; the issue is will he be here to see it.
And Victor Miller recently won back his rights in court of the original Friday The 13th (from Paramount/New Line Cinema & Sean S. Cunningham...and last I heard,Victor Miller, is making his own spin-off prequel TV series, possibly titled 'Camp Crystal Lake' with a young Mrs. Voorhees & possibly Jason too)...
This man went from an adult film star to a world known name that had nothing to do with his adult film acting. They didn't call him the Italian stallion for his acting prowess off of those movies. This man legit built his own kingdom. I can't even imagine the amount of people that he put money in their pockets by making all those movies.
As he tells it, how Rocky came about was in itself a Rocky-esque story. Mid-70s, he was neither a stranger nor an insider in the acting biz, but he pitched his Rocky idea and screenplay (the rough draft of which he wrote in less than four days) to studio execs, production companies, filmmakers, etc, and was turned down some 1120 times!
It’s because the studios were all in competition to make her books into movies so she got a very favorable deal. Stallone & other Hollywood actors like him had to get a studio to take a risk making their movies.
Can’t see why you don’t understand. J.K. Rowlings learned from other’s misfortune and sought a more favorable deal. Just like actors in the 80s’ sitcoms learned from the screw job the actors in 60s’ sitcoms received and used their star power to negotiate better contracts at renewal. If you can’t understand success via “just a series of books”, then there is no hope for you.
I agree with Sylvester absolutely 100% you cant forgive someone who is THAT Nefarious, some people wont change - and man, Bert Blue is totally correct in his comment, The Rocky legacy will always be Sylvester Stallone. Regardless of who has the rights. You cant take that away from him.
ROCKY begins and ends with Sylvester Stallone, that will never change. I have no idea how someone could even "technically" get under that for future spin-offs and such, but it shows what wickedness showbiz is capable of. Sly should have 100% control always of the legacy he created.
Stallone needn’t worry who owns rights to HIS film. At the end of the day we all know who touched our hearts and furnished our minds with the legendary Rocky character. It certainly wasn’t some greedy super old faceless wheeler dealer who runs his movie business like a corner store.
He knows but he just doesn't want to say it. He is genuinely a nice guy. But if he did say it he would probably be "cancelled" and called antis€mitič etc etc. Its sad.
The Rocky legacy will always be Sylvester Stallone. Regardless of who has the rights.
Say that when you create something and someone takes it from you
Rocky without rocky ain't rocky
Tizzle,
Exactly! NASA & Feds have stolen so many trademarks, patents, and copyrights that the people they stole them from are rolling in their graves with angst.
What is going on? He lost the rights to Rocky?
Sure but that doesn't mean you let a branch off franchise that wasn't half as good as the Rocky movies ruin the Legacy. Let's face it Creed can't hold a candle to Rocky as far as quality, story, acting, profits, marketing, etc..
Stallone put food on the table of thousands of actors, directors, producers, cameramen, stuntmen, grips, animators, carpenters, set designers, musicians, etc. He's created art the world enjoys.
You said it best right here. 🙏👍
Big Stallone fan!🙏
Absolutely
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Sylvester Stallone speak with Jessica Shaw about the struggle and heartbreak of having KNOWINGLY GIVEN producer Irwin Winkler own the rights to his character and franchise, 'Rocky'.
This was before he hit hit the heavy DNA damaging HGH!
This man is literally the Hollywood success story. I only have respect for him and Arnie, absolute legends.
Arnold "screw your freedoms" Schwarzenneger. I was team Arnold for almost 40 years but he lost me with that line. Sly is the real deal.
@@wrf8245I like Arnold even more now!
@@BigTony-bf5jr ha I bet you do
@@wrf8245 Wanted to see if anyone made this point. Thank you, I feel the same.
@@wrf8245 yeh I love how you fools took what he said completely out of context. I will explain what he said for you. If you aren’t willing to get the vaccine, to protect the people around you who are medically vulnerable, and are willing to put them at risk because YOU can’t be bothered to be thoughtful towards other people who have weakened immune systems, then you have no right to your freedom when you want to use that very freedoms to harm others. THINK for once in your damn life. Your actions, or lack thereof, have consequences. And people don’t deserve to get sick or die because you can’t be bothered to get a vaccine.
One of the few celebrities I truly respect and admire.
Who is he talking about? Did he lose some rights to a film?
He's a patriotic american success story. A Great man.
Same. Very few actually
@@promnightdumpsterbaby9553 Nope.
@KIRKHAUS
What ad was that?
A modest, humble gentleman with integrity. And in my opinion and underrated actor. Everyone knows that he created Rocky. It speaks volumes about the man's character that he doesn't care about the money himself; he's only concerned about his family's security and welfare. A warm, classy and charismatic guy.
Lmao
Stallone's net worth is $400 million, and he's trying to get money from 91-year-old Winkler whose net worth is $100 million. Just sayin'..😂😂
@@raynaudier8622 I never understood how he came off as like he REALLY needs the money to "feed his family" or something. Even without the rights to Rocky, he should well and truly be completely set for the rest of his elderly life ON TOP OF completely assuring his family's future.
The life this man has had….JUST INCREDIBLE!
Crushing story. He did so much work for that film. He even forced the studio's hand to allow him to act in it.
They were dead set on not allowing him to play the lead. He was willing to just tear apart the script instead of allowing another guy to play the lead.
And for that he gave up the rights. In the end don’t give it up, it’s your work let it be with you.
@@MrDuds1984 I've read several biographies about people who gave up ongoing cash cows for a short term gain, then that property just increased exponentially with the years: Stan Lee and Berry Gordy gave away their rights for pennies. Brian Wilson's dad sold his whole Beach Boys catalogue for a fraction of its worth.
I don't think Stallone is fair here. Winkler and Chartoff gave him a chance when nobody else would and they mortgaged their own houses to cover all necessary expenses. If Rocky wasn't financially successful, they would probably lose more than Stallone who didn't pay a cent for it. Stallone had more than one chance to buy the rights, he had enough money, but he doesn't want to pay for it, he wants it for free, and Stallone is actually very greedy in real life, he's obsessed with money and he tries to earn bucks near any corner he can, from NFT to endless unnecessary sequels to his franchises. James Cameron doesn't own Terminator franchise, it was the price he had to pay to make it, now he's very rich he had tons of chances to buy it back, but he doesn't care about it and just let it go. Stallone should do the same or try to buy it back if he wants it so much.
@@kdscool1536 Well said. Sounds like Stallone is being manipulative. Imagine you build an art gallery - you finance it, you risk your house by putting it up as collateral, you design it, you build it, from the bricks to the insulation to the installations and everything else. Someone stars in it as live art. You pay him loads of money. The art gallery eventually closes - and then he wants to own it?! And if you say "no, that's not in the contract and it's not a normal thing", he goes on talk shows and tries to make you look like the nasty person? That's basically what Stallone has done. It's not the slightest bit normal nor expected for an actor to own a movie - there are rare exceptions, but in general, the producers make it, the actor stars in it. Simple as that.
@Jason Skinner And that gallery owner equivalent paid the artist. The producers make plenty of money yes - if their film does well. They had to put their houses up as collateral and if the film had not done well, they'd have been screwed. They risked loads of their money. The actor risked none. The actor gets paid regardless, especially if they are part of an actor's union such as Equity. The actor didn't create the movie - they were simple an aspect of the whole thing.
He has so much Integrity. I'm proud of him, just a great guy. THE BEST.
He was charging people 500 dollars for pics and an autograph at a Comic Con a few years ago. Guy is a dickhead.
Sounds like Stallone is being manipulative. Imagine you build an art gallery - you finance it, you risk your house by putting it up as collateral, you design it, you build it, from the bricks to the insulation to the installations and everything else. Someone stars in it as live art. You pay him loads of money. The art gallery eventually closes - and then he wants to own it?! And if you say "no, that's not in the contract and it's not a normal thing", he goes on talk shows and tries to make you look like the nasty person? That's basically what Stallone has done. It's not the slightest bit normal nor expected for an actor to own a movie - there are rare exceptions, but in general, the producers make it, the actor stars in it. Simple as that.
@@rogueuniversities6866 He wrote it
@Rogue universities shut up
@@TheAmosTree but didn't pay for it.
Did that man dirty, he is dead on here. That man IS Rocky. That story was his ticket to the big show. He built his legacy on those movies.
He wrote it- created it
@@blazingdragon3361 well he sort of stole the idea from Chuck but yeah he created it in a sense.
Exactly.
The original Rocky movie changed my life. Made me believe, made me think and plan ahead. Motivated me to work-out and become my best self, physically and mentally. Loved the character, and all the characters in the movie, even Butkus. 9 years later, I named my one and only child Adrianne. That movie made me a better man. Pretty sure I am not the only one.
Yeah me too.his Rocky movies are my total thing..I workout all the time I'm 46 and I do exercises like a 19 yr old..lol I workout like Rocky 4 always,Rocky 4 is my life
No wonder America is so F***ked up.
Sly is a man's man, an absolute f..king legend
yup, which is why i love him
Stallone is the man! Legend. Give this man his dueeeees.
Bundle of rights are supposed to be guaranteed by laws of copyright, but somehow Sylvester Stallone got swindled? That is outrageous. Sir, you are an amazing icon for American people and we love what you have given us. Strong and resilient male strength is sadly in danger of being suffocated today. May the Creator protect you, and grant you full health and length of days.
Amen we reap what we sow and if we are lucky we are saved everlasting torment for our wrongdoings by the grace of Jesus Christ, who was without sin, but gave His life for us on the cross, was buried and rose again on the third day. Peace and love to all who read this.
How did he get swindled? Stallone has made no legal case yet. He signed an actor/writer's contract like anyone else. Now he's bitching and moaning about it as if he has the right to break his word in a contract? That's called breach. He also lied about how he turned down money for the script. He sold the damn script to Rocky! He omits that. Then he wanted it back and couldn't get it. Henry Winkler was asked to mediate for him and Henry got it back.
Greed is pervasive in our society. It is in the top 3 of ugliest emotions and has devastating/reverberating consequences.
@@landor7610 Yes, he has seller's remorse, but is spinning it to play the 'poor-me I got swindled' victim. And they are letting him get away with it here!! It's the LIE by SLY that chafes. Have we lost the ability to be honest and tell the truth in these shows?
Well said!
I love the movie Rocky and subsequently Rocky Balboa. Especially, the speech to his son of if you feel your worth something get what you’re worth but, roll with the punches and move forward. That speech hits because I went through something like that in the Navy. Every word to that speech resonates.
He was spot on and Stallone knows it. Great actor bravo 🙌
Thank you for saying it's difficult To get to forgive someone that his been nefarious I agree.
Stallone is a living legend! Good luck selling tickets if he's not involved.
People will still watch buddy
The only reason I watched Creed was for Rocky. Without him, I really don’t care what happens to the Creed character.
I'll never understand why Ryan Coogler didn't make the movie about Apollo Creed's actual son (seen in Rocky II and IV and mentioned in Rocky III). But no, he had to go and make Apollo a philanderer...
Same
Here here
Same
@@ConstantineFurmanif creed 3 came out then don’t watch it simple as it 😊
You literally can't do ANYTHING today without getting ripped off. This is a real punch in the gut
Some might say, below the belt.
Why do so many people not know what the word "literally" means.
Carva Lone, "ripped off"? Stallone sold the "Rocky" screenplay rights to producers Winkler and (now-deceased) Robert Chartoff, in exchange for MGM/United Artists letting him play the lead role (the studio wanted a star to play Rocky); "Our commitment to him, was that he could star in it," Winkler told The Hollywood Reporter. "We convinced United Artists to give us the money to make it; they would only give us a limited amount of money, & they said that we had to put up our houses as collateral. We really mortgaged ourselves to make sure that we brought it in on time, and we did."
For "Rocky" (the first one), in addition to the money for selling the screenplay & his acting salary, Stallone also got *10 net points*, which earned him at least $2.5 million on the back-end. For "Rocky" II & III, in addition to acting salary & directing salary, Stallone got millions on the back-end.
He sold the screenplay for the right to star in the movie [as a total unknown with no box-office draw], AND salary, AND millions on the back-end. Getting his foot in the door allowed him to write 20 movies, star in over 77 movies, direct 8 movies, have a movie franchise that lasted 42 years, and amass a net worth of $400 MILLION dollars. His net worth is 4X as big as the producer Winkler. I think he got the better of the bargain😂😂
@@raynaudier8622 I stand corrected! I seem to recall Stallone himself claiming he was ripped off. Thanks for that very thorough insight
Agreed.
I will be having my first boxing match tomorrow, all thanks to this legend!!!
Nims , you good ?
Did you run that by Mr. Winkler?
GO FOR THE TAKEDOWN!!!
No one knows who Irwin Winkler is, but everyone knows who Silvester Stallone is.
People who matter know who Irwin Winkler is
@@gavinbrando8255The only thing worth knowing about him is that he’s a scumbag for screwing over Stallone like this.
@@gavinbrando8255lol they don’t matter either 😂
This was weird, this was the next video after I watched HENRY Winkler on a podcast talking about he was pretty much the reason Stallone played Rocky, he convinced the studio that they sold it to sell it back as the studio didn't want Stallone playing it, Henry of course was peak Fonz at that time. Then the next video is another Winkler that screwed him over. What are the odds.
I love this man so much. 😢😢
I love how brutally honest he is. No you can’t make peace with thieves.
Rocky’s legacy will always be great .
No matter what has happened Sly is Rocky. That will never change.
I love SYLVESTER STALLONE,he is a ICON.Rocky rights belong to him.All of his films are AWESOME,!!!!!.HE IS A CLASS ACT.
Rocky was one of my favorite movies as a kid. I feel like no other actor could have played his character at the time. As a creator, I know what he is feeling... I have guesses how he was able to get the rights...
He has a good heart
Nobody else was gonna play rocky, he wrote the script
You know the story about how he gave rocky to Henry winkler (no relation to Irwin) and moved in with him in Hollywood while he was playing Fonzie, he took it to the studios and they bought it, he took the money back to Sylvester, and he said they liked it, and Sylvester said you told them I get to be Rocky right? Henry said no that's not what they wanted, and Sylvester got mad, and said go back and get my script, I'm not selling it unless I play in it, and direct it, so Henry dragging his butt all the way to beg them for the script back and they reject the money, Henry then said, well I'm on the number one show on television right now, and I will quit if you don't give me back the script because I didn't know the writer wanted full control, so they relented and finally gave it back, so he goes home where Sylvester and his two great big dogs are living on Henry's couch and hands him the script, and said he had to pull out the Ace in the hole gambling bluff and we are both lucky it worked
Sounds like Stallone is being manipulative. Imagine you build an art gallery - you finance it, you risk your house by putting it up as collateral, you design it, you build it, from the bricks to the insulation to the installations and everything else. Someone stars in it as live art. You pay him loads of money. The art gallery eventually closes - and then he wants to own it?! And if you say "no, that's not in the contract and it's not a normal thing", he goes on talk shows and tries to make you look like the nasty person? That's basically what Stallone has done. It's not the slightest bit normal nor expected for an actor to own a movie - there are rare exceptions, but in general, the producers make it, the actor stars in it. Simple as that.
@@rogueuniversities6866 He didn't just star in it he wrote it and only got $35000 his acting, hardly loads of money
As always, a CLASS ACT!
Stallone is the best by far...he saved my life with those never give up quotes....1step 1punch 1 round...next..love ya brother
Rocky is not rocky without Stallone.....Period end of story 💯🔥
As a creator, I understand those emotions. As a businessman, I still understand those emotions. There is no way I wouldn't sell him back the rights to what is basically his life's work. He's done other things, but this is his baby. I may negotiate to get a percentage in perpetuity, but I would never just keep the rights. That's greed of the ultimate kind.
And that's how you win in a capital society. Don't let emotionalism get in the way of success.
@@jasonmelo9379 I'm not sure I know what you mean.
No, Daniel you'd never earn a coin . He sold the rights to it and i am not understanding why he is now jumping from platform to platform to trash it while pretending he likes MJB . He has not been swindled out of the rights , he needed to money and pawned his own Gold. I would not sell it back to him. we all go thru the same hardships as he does in life. you sell sum you like when you are hungry and wish you had it later .
@@PHlophe What do you mean I'd never earn a coin?
@@danielgarth3806 hes probably racist and assumes since your black and mpre than half of black americans are on welfare you are too. Probably a Joe Biden supporter
That's a man with integrity right there!
Love Stallone. He’s a legend.
Rocky is one of the greatest movie ever made. Along with Back to the Future, Terminator, Jurassic Park, The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, The Sound of Music among other greats.
...Snakes on a plane.
@@tekopuakanapanapa6824 ...Debbie Does Dallas
@@billybobbocephus2177 yes I loved the story line
Raging Bull is better.
TAKE SOUND OF MUSIC OUT THERE THATS GARBAGE
Stallone is simply an awesome guy.
Dude should have got an Oscar for Freddie in Copland.
An actual actor 💜
Stallone is a class act
Proper gentleman
The way he lives his life is revealed in the way he writes. THE ONLY ROCKY!
My mom's best friend dated him in Switzerland around the time of the Vietnam war. Her name was DeeDee Larson. She said he was really nice and fun. So if you are reading this. Hey yo Rock. DeeDee says hi.
Rocky will always be your legacy!
Stallone is a living icon . You are owed ,your rights to Rocky. It's not right 😤 win people feel like they can take what's not there's. God Blessing will win in the end. My favorite actor. Sly Stallone keep faith 🙏
Sly Created the Character, Wrote and starred in the Movies. He Should have the Rights.
Period.
he did not finance it!
This is Stallone nonsense. Why should his kids inherit a character he sold and made millions from? What's that got to do with his kids. Let them earn their own way in the big world.
No mention of Chuck Wepner, the actual fighter his story was based on. He didn’t dream all this up, just wrote about Wepner and added dramatization. Great writing, but didn’t write from scratch.
@@RJMEL24 Rocky Balboa is an amalgamation of the Chuck Webner/Ali ‘ going the distance ‘ fight and the Rocky Marciano traits and boxing style.
Yeah, there's always going to be a gold digger somewhere. To me, you will always be ROCKY; it will always be one of your best performances, Syl. ALWAYS. The motion and energy, the character and the story...simply amazing! And thank you!
Apparently, Stallone sold the rights in return for the opportunity to play the lead role. Of course, if someone else had played the role it may not have been any good.
That really sucks. I don't blame him for his feelings towards Creed III. Hollywood can be a pretty insidious place to work and this demonstrates it. Irwin is also 91 years old, so who knows. If the guy dies and Sly is still around, maybe he/the studio can get the rights back and he can do what he wanted to do for his kids.
Unfortunately wouldn’t happen. It’s passed down to Irwin’s kids. So it stays in that family
''for his kids''? LOL Gimme a break 'His kids' have more than enough . Let them work for a living ; get real jobs. (Not gonna happen) I mean this is so ridiculous - just because their silly father made a dumb movie a hundred years ago, they've got to be setup for life.
Can't feel sorry for Sly after what he did with the script of Dredd. Research it and you'll see how he used his Hollywood influence to screw over the people who owned the rights to Dredd and now he wants to whinge that it happened to him. I call double standards and he should wake up to himself.
@@manofiske3318 He said it wasn't for the money. Some things are more important than money. It's part of his legacy.
Ye was right!!
Sly is the Man, Tulsa King just became my favorite new show, it's outstanding, I knew I would like it but never thought that 1st episode would be as good as it was, Badassery and unintentional Comedy blend perfectly here, counting down the minutes till episode 2
javier migoya
Agreed ! Tulsa king 👑
Which streaming platform
@@axelfoley1812 Paramount
@@realityalwaysbulliesopinio1961 👍
Good to know. Love Sly and I was wondering if Tulsa King was good.
Tulsa is steaming now. Favorite time pass on Sundays. Great series.
He never mentioned the name, Irwin Winker! The vampire.
Stallone IS rocky, and many more iconic characters. Give him the respect he deserves. He wrote it for crying out loud!!
Sly is synonymous with rocky, he wrote it and so much of his persona surrounds it along with many other people. That’s why we say “Keep punching”. We say that to, about and in honor of Sylvester Stallone and no one else.
The majority have spoken.Thanks!
“Loyalty is a myth. If money exists “ -me
Imagine writing and starring in the movie 50 yrs ago and doing the subsequent sequels, but you don't own your baby after all these yrs. I feel him when he says I wanted to leave it to my children.
Absolutely 100% agree with this!!!
This is Stallone nonsense. Why should his kids inherit a character he sold and made millions from? What's that got to do with his kids. Let them earn their own way in the big world.
@@trollgoodman7808 why don’t you decide that for your kids and let sly decide for his?
One thing that people willfully want to overlook is the fact that Stallone has no gripe against Mbj ... only winkler.. because we know that Micheal B.Jordan holds Sylvester Stallone in very high regard and has NEVER disrespected Stallone.... very important... because I can see that people are going to try to link Mbj into this beef... to use as an excuse to destroy the movie for personal reasons
Right. Michael B. Jordan has the upmost respect for Sylvester Stallone and he knows that without the Rocky movies, the Creed movies would'nt existed.
@@johnwebb2442 .... and another MAJOR important thing that these people TRYING TO DRUM UP A FALSE BEEF TO SABOTAGE THE CREED MOVIES....is that MBJ ALWAYS GIVES CREDIT TO,HOLDS IN THE HIGHEST REGARD SYLVESTER STALLONE.. EVEN SYLVESTER STALLONE SAID HIMSELF THAT HIS BEEF ISN'T WITH MICHAEL B.JORDAN..IT WAS WITH SOMEONE ELSE... AND THAT HE WOULD ACT AGAIN WITH JORDAN AGAIN IF HE COULD...NO PROBLEM
Stallone sold the rights and is now crying about it. Winkler funded the film when Stallone was an absolute nobody.
If there's a guy who gets a lack of credit for Rocky, due to Stallone's ego, it's the director, John G Avildsen. I've never once seen Stallone give him credit in an interview. The Director is King on a film. It rides or dies on his back.
Stallone is one of my all time favorites. For me Rocky is number one on my top 5 movie list. My childhood was full of Rocky and Rambo, so if he’s not in it I’m not seeing it.
Shocking sly u will allways be rocky keep fighting champ those people should be ashamed they made millions off sly and to do that to him unforgivable
I'm not sure what the issue is here. So, Sylvester Stallone wrote the story line and script for the original film (and subsequent two or three after that). Presumably, MGM paid him for the rights to the film, produced and released it, and years later, subsequently sold those rights on to someone else. I would think this is fairly standard in the film and music industry.
It is, this is just a greedy actor who wants more creative control and more money. That whole legacy passing onto his children thing is bs, it's why he didn't go into any real details about his claims or what he FEELS like is owed to him. He's just bitter and jaded about a new writing team's direction of a movie franchise he built in terms of story development, but he never once owned the rights to those movies.
Pray an act of perfect contrition everyday
At the same time, ‘Rocky’ never gets made if it wasn’t for Winkler, so it’s the classic chicken and egg quandary
You can tell it really hurts him.
I remember meeting him in Miami about 30 years ago in a club. He was pretty cool guy even back then.
This man is a genius. I love in Tulsa King
It doesn’t get any better than Sly! 👊🏻💥👊🏻
I was also $crewed up in 2016 and I’ll never forgive the person. I feel you Sly !
Cheers from San Diego California
Stallone wasn't screwed. He got the benefit of his bargain.
You are sad and miserable! Imagine this, imagine God withheld his forgiveness from you. You are done!
The parents and families of shooting victims even forgave the shooters who brutally murdered their loved ones. Raped victims forgiving their predators. You are miserable and you gloat in your unforgiveness!
Go Padres
There's a difference between forgiveness and working with someone again.
Don't hold onto unforgiveness. It will eat you up inside.
In person interview is what we need. Thank you for that and not that Stern remote crap.
Tulsa King episode 1 blew us away, can’t wait to check out the next one. This guy is amazing
Stallone is a living legend if there ever was one..
"It's not about the money" lmao
@The Rocky Guy
"Stallone - who sold the rights to producers Winkler and Robert Chartoff - said his anger came from the fact that the original deal deprived him of an equity stake in the franchise, a longterm asset that could be passed to his children after his death." - Variety
Love you Sly. Your Rocky films are so inspirational. Everytime I watch your movies it puts me in a happy mood.
It was actually Chuck Wepners (The Bayonne Bleeder) Character. Stallone paid him off and made him sign a non disclosure agreement when the two had a meeting on the set of the movie Copland . So let's be honest Sly!?
That's right
Wow there's a man with integrity.
That Stallone doesn't own the rights to Rocky is absolutely unfathomable. That is 100% the correct word for it.
Sylvester Stallone is such a class act! 😎👍
Remember how for decades the msm wanted us to think he's a lughead..?
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
@@Veldtian1 Lol that’s funny! 🍺😎👍
@@Veldtian1 Those White people are nefarious. You can't trust 'em.
You seem to be like me ... a Right side kind of person. Maybe do some research before praising Stallone. He backed the Brady bill and is anti gun even though he got filthy rich by using guns in most of his movies. He's an actor and nothing more.
@@freedomrings1420 Real cOBRA tALK! YO!
Also I watched “Tulsa king” first episode last night. Was really good.👍🏻
If you were employed by a company as an carpenter and made a chair, you would not own the chair, the company would. If you worked as a chef in a hotel and made a meal, you would not own the meal, the hotel would. I am trying to understand the logic behind Sly's comment. 🤔Actors are also EMPLOYEES. Sean Connery does not own James Bond franchise, Marlon Mrando does not own Godfather films - studio does. I guess it is because he feels like a father to Rocky films..... The same can say musicians - Beatles, Pink Floyd - they do not own the music, studio does. There were payed for it.
If its not about the money then what does it matter who owns it? He still created it and can take full credit for that. I mean if your company built the Empire State Building, you dont have to own the building to have a legacy of what you built.
To reduce his argument to a chair and a dish of lasagne is absurd. The rocky story has changed millions of lives and forever will. This is Slyvesters creation. Before this character is so iconic you can't use examples like you just did.
Irwin Winkler is also a employee .
@@Kev80ification I am not trying to compare the professions, I am comparing the realtionships between the company bosses and people who work for them. Actors are also EMPLOYEES. I know that some pople think about them like some gods but that is different story. 🤭
@@Pavelflash Here's where your analogies fall apart;
Stallone wrote the story, screenplay, and insisted he play Rocky and the direction did not deviate from the story. It was all his predetermined writing and direction. Avelston was basically just a stand-in consultant "director" for Rocky 1 and Stallone officially directed 2, 3 and 4. Stallone did all the work prior to becoming an "employee". Winkler was simply the money to make the film. Those truths pretty much make your analogy look really ignorant. Secondly, Stallone said in the interview, maybe you missed that too-that things should be equal, not Winkler taking the higher % of the revenue AND the rights. Basically your analogy favors Stallone in truth; Stallone created, wrote, directed and starred. Winkler paid for the production. That is not what you described and its certainly not the typical showbiz scenario you laid out. He wasnt just some actor who got chosen and employed. In fact, Stallone waa so down financially that he sold the movie rights, NOT the franchise, for a measley 35k because he needed the money so bad. So basically, Winkler was just another greedy Hollywood punk who took advantage of Stallone, basically stole the rights by paying peanuts, THEN, stole the bigger cut and the story creation rights. That makes Winkler a scumbag weasle. Do you understand now?
Rocky I is a piece of art .
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I saw Rambo when I was five yrs old and I believe it gave me a good example of how to be a strong virile male. Sly is the shit
I never cringed so hard until I read this. LOL!
Wow, I get watching Rocky and feeling that way but Rambo is a really sad character. I mean, you were five but did you grow out of that?
@@-LAH hey good question. I just loved how Rambo is a good dude trying to just chill and survive but he has a lot of integrity and decides not to take any abuse. His strength and discipline give him power. You could say the same for millions of actual veterans.
Truth, absolute TRUTH.
"ALL of your sons want to be producers? Oh, sure."
😂
That's a lie, but don't let facts get in the way.
This is Stallone nonsense. Why should his kids inherit a character he sold and made millions from? What's that got to do with his kids. Let them earn their own way in the big world.
@fishy2939 Cool story bro 😎
Next to SHATNER, this SUPER STAR has the BEST hair in Hollywood!!! Wish I had his contacts!!! LOVE YOU MAN!
Irwin, you made millions, god bless you. It’s time to do the right thing, and give some ownership of Rocky, to Sly, never to late.
Nope. A deal's a deal. Winkler took enormous risks, and Stallone was paid handsomely. Had it not worked out and Winkler went into debt, Stallone wouldn't have bailed him out.
@@michaelpalumbo4880 This isn’t about money, both have generational wealth. Sly wants to pass Rocky to his children. Winkler is under no obligation legally, morally not so sure.
@@Steve-cw1zo There is no morals when it comes to contracts. Deal was made, end of story.
@@acegibson9533 Kanye was right.
I love Stallone but he have no right to be upset. He had the opportunity of his life. He shoukd be thankful with him. Stallone is massively wealthy.
ROCKY IS A LEGEND!!!
Truly an industry giant
Okay, this makes a LOT more sense. Stallone isn't angry that he doesn't own the rights as much as he's angry that Irwin Winkler somehow owns the rights, rather than United Artists/MGM.
There is a way Stallone can get the rights back. Since the movie was made before 1978, the author has to wait 55 or 56 years to terminate their agreement (after 1978 is 35 years). If Stallone can hang on until 2031 or 2032, then he can get the rights back. He may have to sue (because Hollywood producers are notoriously jerks), but he'll win. If Stallone can't make it till then, he can leave instructions for his estate to get the rights back at that time. Wes Craven's estate did the same thing for the rights to "A Nightmare on Elm Street" in 2019. Sly can get the rights back for his family; the issue is will he be here to see it.
And Victor Miller recently won back his rights in court of the original Friday The 13th (from Paramount/New Line Cinema & Sean S. Cunningham...and last I heard,Victor Miller, is making his own spin-off prequel TV series, possibly titled 'Camp Crystal Lake' with a young Mrs. Voorhees & possibly Jason too)...
It's so fucking sad that this happened to him. It's Stallone's film and nothing BUT
RUclips kept promoting this video to me on my homepage so I figured I better watch it.
Rocky will always be attached to creed there is know creed without rocky
Facts.
Love this guy.
Dave Chappelle got justice. Sly should get justice.
Would have been nice to get the background story of how this was possible ?
This man went from an adult film star to a world known name that had nothing to do with his adult film acting. They didn't call him the Italian stallion for his acting prowess off of those movies.
This man legit built his own kingdom. I can't even imagine the amount of people that he put money in their pockets by making all those movies.
adult films?
Yeah, jeez, you couldn't put on a porn in the early 70s without seeing him. WTF?
@@frankjamesbonarrigo7162 Yes his first acting gig was actually in an adult film and that's where he got the name "The Italian Stallion"
@@bennylevine387 His first acting gig was indeed a porn movie and that's where he got his nickname.
@@danielpassigmailcom So he was therefore an adult film star on the basis of his appearance in one porn?
The man came from nowhere, had a story to tell, and told it. Stallone is Rocky
As he tells it, how Rocky came about was in itself a Rocky-esque story. Mid-70s, he was neither a stranger nor an insider in the acting biz, but he pitched his Rocky idea and screenplay (the rough draft of which he wrote in less than four days) to studio execs, production companies, filmmakers, etc, and was turned down some 1120 times!
I've always wondered how JK Rowlings managed to apparently avoid this problem . Over a billion dollars just over a series of books.
Damn good question.
It’s because the studios were all in competition to make her books into movies so she got a very favorable deal. Stallone & other Hollywood actors like him had to get a studio to take a risk making their movies.
Can’t see why you don’t understand. J.K. Rowlings learned from other’s misfortune and sought a more favorable deal.
Just like actors in the 80s’ sitcoms learned from the screw job the actors in 60s’ sitcoms received and used their star power to negotiate better contracts at renewal.
If you can’t understand success via “just a series of books”, then there is no hope for you.
Wasn’t just a series of books. No one ever thought to do a magic school book and with such detail. Was a Lord Of The Rings level of creativity.
@@LudiCrust. Exactly. The books was already a success. Rocky was an unheard of concept at the time.
I agree with Sylvester absolutely 100% you cant forgive someone who is THAT Nefarious, some people wont change - and man, Bert Blue is totally correct in his comment, The Rocky legacy will always be Sylvester Stallone. Regardless of who has the rights. You cant take that away from him.
He’s the man
Im so so sad he wont be in 3. Im excited for the movie still, but cant help but feel the heart of it is gonna be missing
ROCKY begins and ends with Sylvester Stallone, that will never change. I have no idea how someone could even "technically" get under that for future spin-offs and such, but it shows what wickedness showbiz is capable of. Sly should have 100% control always of the legacy he created.
Stallone needn’t worry who owns rights to HIS film. At the end of the day we all know who touched our hearts and furnished our minds with the legendary Rocky character. It certainly wasn’t some greedy super old faceless wheeler dealer who runs his movie business like a corner store.
Stallone has my deepest respect. Look kids this is what a real man is.
His problem is..."I don't know how he did that."...he should know that part by now.
He knows but he just doesn't want to say it. He is genuinely a nice guy. But if he did say it he would probably be "cancelled" and called antis€mitič etc etc.
Its sad.
Bravo