Michael B. Jordan FINALLY Reveals Why Rocky ISN'T In Creed 3..
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- Michael B. Jordan FINALLY Reveals Why Rocky ISN'T In Creed 3..
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The man created Rocky and every character in it. No Sly, no Rocky. He should own the rights to the entire franchise.
The people who paid millions of dollars to make the movie but the rights from him Sylvester never wanted any ownership until like after Rocky three. That’s when he realized this is more than one movie and it’s gonna keep making money for a long time. But it was too late. If you want to ownership you should’ve made sure you got ownership for Rocky one.
Sly was too late and got owned
Yes Rocky created creed
But he lost the rights fair and square
@@EM-tx3ly Well more then Rocky created Creed it's more like Rocky created Greed.
EXACTLY!
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STILL though, as professional business partners, you give ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, HONOR, RECOGNITION, AND RESPECT where it's due.
They did Sylvester Stallone wrong, and the Fans.
hollywood keeps doing this to their employees, consumers, customers, and Fans.
Rocky's story deserves a better ending than 'He moved away"
Stallone should make another Rocky movie then!
@@Sputz3 Creed is another Rocky movie, Sly can't do fight scenes anymore.
@@JSmoothSoul He doesn't need to fight.
@@CroPhantomX yeah he should've been in it but it is what it is. At least he says he's willing to do the next one
They entirely dismissed him in the movie. So disrespectful.
There was a Rocky-sized hole in Creed 3. Rocky should have shown up at Adonis' mom's funeral at the very least.
I really enjoyed Creed 3.. totally agree with you mate! Stallone at the funeral makes total sense..could have really made Creed 3 awesome..oh well. Cheers
Didn't watch it.
There would be no Creed movies without Rocky.
Theoretically there would be no rocky if there was no creed
Ok we get it but creed trilogy is better than the rocky movies and ima life long rocky fan btw and rocky 4 is still my #1 movie imo lol 😂
@@Dakingalbert2 art is subjective; saying Rocky 4 is your number 1, explains your preference of Creed over the Rocky series.
Creed 3 is mediocre and forgettable
@@Dakingalbert2 are you high ???
We need Rocky in these films. Take advantage when a legend is still around.
Creed 3 was better without Stalone. When Stalone is in it its all about him. Creed 1 and 2 just felt like Rocky The Coach 1 and 2 and Creed 3 actually felt like Michaels movie.
EXACTLY!
@@OpticAssassin I hope you know that Sylvester Stallone wrote the Rocky movies in created all the all the characters. If it wasn't for Sylvester Stallone. There would have never been a Creed character for Michael b Jordan to play. That would mean there would be no Creed movies..
@@Dr.Meola1980 so
@@OpticAssassin That's because it IS all about Rocky.
I think it’s safe to say 99.9% of this films audience wanted Rocky in it, if not for a few quick scenes or 1 long dialogue scene. Let’s be real, these movies are here and do so well while here because we all love Rocky and he created them. I mean these are on the top best movie list in the history of movies. Unfortunately these movies aren’t marvel comics, his character does need to be in every single movie
The main thing is that the Winkler hates Stallone and wanted to cut him out altogether instead of sharing profits with him. He offered Michael B Jordan a cut in exchange for willing to do movies without Stallone, and he took the offer. It is what it is. It always boils down to money.
Rocky is Stallone’s creation... I think he should be a part of these films.
Stallone said Michael B. Jordan can continue without him. I think he regretted it later
He’s still a producer and still makes money off the films because he created them so he’s good either way
He created but he doesnt own it so🤷🏿♂️
He stole the idea so I don’t care
EXACTLY, just like they did for Creed and Creed II. I loved them! They were EXCEPTIONAL!
How are they going to bring Rocky in for Creed and Creed II, and Creed III, barely even mention him and not even have at least a cameo?!
THAT'S COMPLETE AND TOTAL DISHONOR AND DISRESPECT!
Sylvester Stallone continued showing Carl Weathers Apollo Creed in his films and the first Creed movies, but I guess michael b. jordan can't do that for Sylvester Stallone's Rocky.
That's just cut throat and dirty!
I think I'm done watching anything that michael b. jordan plays in or directs, which is a REAL SHAME because I REALLY loved him in Creed and Creed II.
One of the biggest things that bugged me with Creed lll was the actual neglect for Rocky. Don't get me wrong, I completely understand the want for Creed to stand on its own BUT there wasn't a single line of dialogue even talking about Rocky... it would have been so easy to say that "Rocky didn;t want to travel" or " I can't keep depending on Rocky, at some point I gotta do it myself" and just that little bit would have been perfect. But, oh well
Yes it was. They mentioned Apollo (champ) giving Rocky(bum amateur) a chance
It'll always be just a Rocky spin off. Rocky floored the guy that killed Apollo, and he mentored Apollo's kid.... that's set in stone forever. They can never change that.
@@shadyshady3390 but that was true.
Rocky probably would agree he started at a street amateur who grinded to make himself pro
Stallone isn’t obligated to be heavily in a movie he isn’t the director of.
Ultimately, if he wants to dictate the franchise, he should be the one directing and producing the movie.
It was 1 movie out of the trilogy chillout
the movie is called creed not rocky they don’t have to mention him
As a die hard rocky fan I enjoyed the movie but I still felt like there was something missing It just felt weird without seeing Rocky on the screen. You see it in the 1st 2 movies he went through the trouble of finding Rocky they created a bond he considered Rocky family. I know that when Donny's mother died there was no way that rocky wouldn't have been at the funeral and it would have been nice to have rocky there as a spectator in the crowd watching the fight at the end.
Rocky and Creed came from the mind of Stallone. Period.
“He was always part of the creative process” LOL There would be no Rocky without him.
Indeed. It looks they forgot who wrote the script of the first movie
Yeah, Stallone WAS the creative process!
@@lunaticmickful avon covington and coogler wrote creed 1 stallone did not want to be in creed they had to beg him. They already wrote character off from the start hence the cancer.
@@renaldthomas BOOM! School them dude.
Rocky old and his time is up leave him be. He reconnected with his son, playing with his grandchild, and living his old life his story arc is over
Reminds me of that reporter in Rocky 5 when he says: “He might be able to win a few fights, but he ain’t no Rocky Balboa”
You p.o.s, Tommy Gunn didn't deserve that beat down. 😡
He doesnt nneeed to be Rocky Balboa, dumbazz
Clearly not meant to be another Rocky Balboa when his dad is APOLLO CREED! 🫤
My favorite line is from Duke: "As long as they've got Balboa on the brain he'll always be champ. The man fought wars in the ring". Even if Duke didn't give a damn about Rocky, he at least had the decency to admit that Rocky fought the most brutal battles, and earned his status as the people's champ
Stallone is the Rocky franchise...without him it's truly over.
Well good thing this is the CREED franchise.
Creed 3 was still really good
The Rocky franchise will be remembered for generations
@@Kiiieeechiii agreed...some decent acting and a good story.. its rockys absense in any form, that took away from what it could have been though.
Hahahah creed 3 is making way too much money for that. Rocky films are over but creed movies can still go. It's so great to see all these idiots, who thought creed 3 would flop, go into defense mode. You got proved wrong. I hope creed becomes more synonymous with the franchise than rocky. To the point where ppl wouldn't even know rocky had solo movies
For Clubber Lang to come back in Creed4 along with Rocky 💪🏾
I dont mind them continuing the story without rocky but i would of liked to have seen at least a cameo. Like for example in creed 3, seeing him in the audience of the fight just as a spectator with his son and grandson just enjoying retirement from being a fighter/trainer with his reconnected family. But to just totally drop him suddenly seemed weird and i didn’t like that
Totally agree, or at least some kinda of dialogue as to what happened to him, where he’s at or what was going on in his life….. but nothing…. It was still a good movie.
To see him at Adonis stepmom funeral would have been great as well
They offered him a cameo. He turned it down
if I am not mistaken rocky son was Stallone real son who passed away in real life. at the end of creed two i think rocky said something about being on his own. rocky practical walks off into the sunset. i am sure that at some point stallone will be asked to play a part down the line and end him like they did micky. when stallone gets off his high horse.
And even worst, there are no photos of him in Adonis's gallery. As much as it's Adonis's time to shine on his own, you'd have thought that it would be nice to pay homeage and not forgetting one's roots. After all, Rocky helped Adonis to fight his way into becoming his own person. I wonder if it's still consider cameo by just having a photo of Rocky, though?
This series would have never even been here without stallone being Rocky
Obviously but he doesn't have to be in the movie or even be a main cast. He can produce help with directing. Rocky even told Creed this is your time so just let Creed have his time
There would be no Creed without Rocky and no Rocky without Chuck Wepner.
@@davidmitchell6873 There wasn't a poster of Rocky Marciano on Balboa's wall in the first film with Mickey there commenting on it and how Rocky reminded him of Marciano, for nothing.
@@davidmitchell6873 there would be no peanubutter without peanuts
Thanks to Stallone we have this Franchise
@@samsquanch9905 well it will be a disaster anyway creed II wasnt crap becouse stallone fixed it
@Samsquanch and they purchased it from him as usual. No theft involved. Ownership changed hands with the exchange of monetary compensation. Yay capitalism.
the franchise should have ended back with rocky 6... even tho i guess u can say that kid rocky took under his wing
in that movie was setting up for adonis. but idc about adonis or micheal b. lol. sorry dude u aint no apollo either.
oh well. it ended at rocky 6 for me.
Stallone and his precious little negro
@@ssppeeaarr creed II was a hell of a good movie though.. creed 1 was just okay
Can’t watch it without rocky. Even if kang is in it.
Stalone CREATED THIS FRANCHISE. Its his story, his character(s) and his world that he made. Stalone DESERVES THE RIGHTS to Rocky and everything surrounding Rocky
yea he should deserve the right it’s sucks
Rocky IS the franchise. Creed will be forgotten.
@ROCKET MAN twilight made a ton of money too
Respectfully stop being a racist moron yourself. I said nothing about his race. Stop projecting your own racism.
Rocky could come back in a later movie if need be, however Rocky at end of Creed2 was making steps to reestablish ties to his son and his family. This could easily be written in a future film where both Adonis and Rocky agree that Rocky needs to fix his relationship with his son. So bitter feelings today can easily be glossed over tomorrow
rocky will be dead soon in the story.
then Milo Ventimiglia could comeback for a cameo or a bigger role haha
@@marvinredota9100 Milo wanna sit at home and chill
Rocky 1976 will always be the 🐐
This is disrespectful. Rocky is the heartbeat of this franchise. Without Sly, there would be no creed
Sylvester Stallone movies is one my top greatest movies because it represents life struggles , fears, traumas and the goal of fighting through it especially by holding on to values such as family and team work and respect and love for one another. It teaches how pride, jealousy fear , greed etc get in the of success and it shows how these bad things can destroy relationships, your soul and your life. It's teaches importance of helping each other. It teaches how succès has nothing to do with money or possession. Rocky touched upon all these subjects & more in all his movies. He achieved this all the while keeping his character humble & thoughtful. He even emphasized importantance of having a personal pray life but also asking others for prayer represented by each time Rocky went to the Priest asking for a blessing. He touched upon how scammers exist & we need to watch out for those who act like friend but don't really care about you & want to steal from you so you must remain vigilant. So much in one of his movies & the series all together could be use in a school to teach about life.Thank you Sylvester Stallone for one of the greatest movie series that represent life. Rocky's character could see all that even while being punchy lol. So what's wrong with those who got all there faculties and are so blind. Stallone no other actor could have played this role better then you ...Stallone was the heart of these movies❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Rocky no doubt had many great characters that ALL had amazing chemistry. A great example would be Apollo and Duke, they are my fav characters in the entire franchise. Its incredibly hard to replicate that in Creed, but if Apollo was still alive , Michael B would have more to work with .I just find the Creed Movies lack those memorable characters and this latest one felt rushed.
thats a good point, and rushed is a good example too, I felt it was rush also, but I accompanied that with unappreciated and disrespected!
creed does not feel like rocky movie,maybe bcoz filmmaking has changed and these are creed movies..not rocky films....its part of the franchise but is different
@@dvine3488 very true, it's definitely a series of it's own now
i didnt think the film was that good to be honest and i would agree it looked and felt rushed 👍
because they are mining the franchise into the ground... boxing isn't even a thing people talk about anymore it's all about MMA for years now
Not the same without Stallone
Just as good. He was not missed.
It’s better, Adrian’s been dead since ‘06, his story is over
@@UrMomsSuperRichEx it's definitely not better creed 3 was so dumb and the final fight was boring
@@marqmorris8670 not even half as good. If you look at boxing/fight movies apart from Rocky series, there's plenty better. Southpaw was much better than Creed 3,had none of its shortcomings - young Creed running from the police wasn't worth hiding till near end, the fights weren't really engaging, Mama Creed's death had little impact with all else going on, we were just told to assume Major's character's insulting Creed instead of actually showing us, even the training montage was lame.
@@vishusharma1180the movie was a fresh take from a different perspective. Rocky was not missed.
I love how this show makes Stallone the bad guy when it’s the exact opposite
That's because they are pushing the liberal agenda and black superiority and white erasure.
I’m not sure if I “love” that.
The movie was great, and the actors and acting was spot on! But I think Rocky should have had a small part in it, maybe just talking to Donnie on the phone, and then watching the fight on tv at his home or a bar in Philadelphia.
I love all the movies. I find them inspirational. Creed 3 did need to establish a new era, but It did pay homage to Rocky in the Hollywood sign scene. Also, look closely. There is a little of the Rock sprinkle throughout the movie. This story was about the Creed family. About his father. The other man of inspiration to the main character's life. This is needed to build up the story arch. Without it, it would be just dragging Creed 2 storyline into the next movie. Rocky, mostly loved, his story has come to the end. They tried to tell us at the end of Rocky Babola movie. The character of Rocky faded out at the end of the movie. Gracefully. I was pleasantly surprised to see they integrate him in the other movies. Sometimes, we all need to stand and grow by ourselves. It makes us stronger. ✨️
It sucks that Stallone had to do what he did so the film could get made. Rocky is a great story and so is Creed but when rocky humanized Drago i think there was a place to explore there. I'd really like to see more of Drago eventually in his own struggle
drago spin off coming/
There was no more Drago after his defeat and it was heavily implied at the end.
A perfect example of a generation that is ungrateful has no respect. He wouldn't have anything creed if it wast for Stallone.
Who cares????
In creed two It was a perfect ending of Rocky 🥊 making peace with his son and playing with his grandson
Was surprised to hear Creed 3 is doing well in this video. The movie was crap.
we all look at things differently man, whats crap to you isnt crap to others. vice Verser
We all have opinions buddy
The first Creed was enough to understand this has nothing to do with Rocky anymore. Haven’t seen the other two.
While Creed 3 was alright. It pales in comparison to Creed 1 and 2. Especially Creed 2 which is a masterpiece.
It’s not like Stallone just played Rocky, he wrote, so yeah he definitely has a right to be upset
same
It’s been time for him to hang up his hat especially after going full MAGA & embarrassing himself .
@@CaptainGrnThmbs what’s wrong for supporting trump?
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Why do people still support Trump the conman ? Because he hates the same people they do . Anyone still supporting this guy is probably not to good a person themselves or they believe in some insane conspiracy theories .
@@natalygibson8367
Not to mention he was willing to destroy what little democracy we have left to stay in power . As our president he was the great divider instead of being a unifier he has us all more divided than we’ve been since the civil war .
I feel like rocky story was already finished because at the end he finally reunite his son
The Rocky Series was a hit because it was built on life lessons, it had viewers relating so flawlessly...people can see themselves as Rocky and Adrian, etc... the Creed Series is so-so because it lack that genuine approach and focuses on being a "reboot" with a contemporary background...and that's about all it has to offer, nothing more.
Creed 3 was superb!! I'm looking for number 4 now. I think Adonis' little girl will follow her dad lead.
Rocky will never be challenged…. Stallone is an icon.
I personally thought the film was fine. I think Dame will be a memorable antagonist due to his history with Adonis. I don’t think Rocky should always be in these films but I would have liked if he showed up to Adonis’s moms funeral. That’s something he’d definitely do for someone who made him feel like a father again
Well said
dam that's true, he should've at least been a cameo for her funeral.
Creed 3 is not so great...is just ok.
What a clown
Man they could've recreated running on the beach or the footwork scenes with Dame @ Creed to pay homage to Rock @Apollo in pt 3. Those scenes are etched in our minds
Please, the Creed series will never be as successful as the original Rocky series. The original Rocky won Academy Awards, Creed will never win that. It’s not even in the same league.
I don't think CREED movies are trying to compete with Rocky. its you guys pinning them against each other. I dont care for Rocky films but i respect them for being legendary, im the new generation so i started with creed and I got nothing against the rocky movies. but you OGs DAMMN, you have so much hate for Creed. its just Sad man
@@giftmatsane8810 The last two were perfectly fine. This one was just straight up bad from my objective stance though.
Not even close to being in the same My god man, idgaf what the RT score is. It was god awful on all fronts.
I was insanely disappointed.
Creed movies are just Rocky movies unimaginatively recreated in a very sterile way.
I'm with Stallone on this one. Shame on the studio, Winkler, and Jordan for moving forward without him.
Stallone has been Rocky and should have a part Creed 3... without Rocky
It's definitely not the same picture 😮😢❤
people who say that "there wouldnt be a rocky without creed.." there would never hear the name creed if it wasnt for rocky..
Also, we could have done without Creed movies, lol.
It was Apollo, not Adonis, who was such a great character. I found Jordan to be whiney and irritating. Though, I have yet to see the 3rd movie.
@@axelfoley1406 you know the saying tomatoes, potatoes…
Creed 2 was the perfect send off for Rocky. Didn't Stallone even say he was done with the character after that? Creed 3 was great.
There can't be a move on without better ending Rocky's story.
For some reason Rocky's relationship with his son got strained yet again even though Rocky Balboa showed them mending their fences. Since they decided to go that route in Creed, I actually think the greatest ending you could give him was the scene we got where he got to meet his grandson. Since there is a timeskip in this movie, I think the best move would have been to either say he's now living his remaining days with his son's family, or what I would have done is say that he died peacefully in his sleep in-between the timeskip. Let's get real, Rocky's greatest ability in boxing was that he was able to get beaten up to the point where he had permanent brain damage and still managed to keep fighting longer than any boxer would reasonably be able to. Yes he was able to beat cancer, yet his body has gone through such hardships, he's aware that he's not going to become an old man. A big reason why Rocky during their first conversation says to Donnie that he doesn't understand why he would choose that life when he clearly got brains and an education.
What more could you really ask of the character? You've seen him live a full, very messy and complicated life with a lot of ups and downs. Something you usually don't get with characters like that who usually just remain static or always have an upward trajectory, maybe a small humbling but by the end of the movie still working their way up. It also gives them the license to go slightly darker in a natural way.
Then they should make another Rocky movie.
Legacy my as .. you morn!! ..until now we are watching rocky 1 and vandamme movies and few others .. those people are legend !! .. their movies lives until now because of every small detail like music .. sounds & the story itself is immortal .. rocky also is smart & you don't feel boring while waching .. this is legacy ..mach this if you can !!
I love Michael B Jordan and I agree, sometimes you have to solow but never forgetting from which you came
Thumbnail: I refuse to work with him
Video: (paraphrasing) “he’s a legend and we pay homage and respect to him and his character; he’s all over this thing in spirit. He wished me well despite not quite seeing the same vision for the project”
Always with the click baiting 😒
He created Rocky there wouldn't even be a creed without him 😂
No Rocky, no thanks.
✊🏻✊🏻✊🏻✊🏻 only watched creed because of rocky in it. there is no character more real than this one. humble, loyal and kind with a golden heart… felt so sad for him being alone without adrian and his son. I was crying. he deserved the freaggin world… I forced myself to watch Rocky V and onwards… actually would habe loved to stop at 4 … him being the absolute champ and legend that he was, rich and with his great wife…
I haven’t seen any of the Creed movies. Everyone tells me, including my children, that they are good. I believe them.
When they ask me why I haven’t seen any of them, I tell them a version of, Rocky was my era, Creed is yours. No cap whatsoever.
Plus, and most importantly, I’m in a place in life where the genre no longer appeals to me.
Still, I always wished Creed had more in the original franchise. It felt like his storyline ended to soon. So I’m glad for the Creed franchise being so well received .
Anyway, I hope they reconcile this somehow because the legacy of the franchise is bigger than the sum of its parts.
Personally, I really liked Creed III the most. out of all of them. Seeing Stallone all old and saggy still trying to be a tough guy was weird for me. I prefer not to see a legend look so forced. It looked like he was put in the films just to give it some street credit and now without him it feels complete. Not sorry to all of you who feel its only good with Rocky because it was a better watch without him.
People needing people is what rocky was all about. Well rocky needed Adrian.
You really shouldn't be shocked that Rocky isn't in Creed 3.
It's set up at the end of the previous film when Rocky says to Donnie:
"This is your time now."
He was passing the franchise's torch to Donnie.
THIS!!!
He will be back. Right now, he is battling cancer and rekindling his relationship with his son.
Redford as Rocky Balboa, Are you kidding me? That would be one of the greatest miscasts in movie history.
Burt Reynolds would’ve worked wonders tho lol
@@nickytommymancinelli8066 Reynolds would have been a better fit. Not Redford's style, To much of a pretty boy. Not the type of role that he usually does.
They could of at least let Rocky pay his respects to the mother dying.
I loved the movie. Wished I could've saw a cameo at least. Maybe just a phone call where Adonis just calls Rock and says "I'm going in" and hangs up. Rock on the other end just smirks and says "it's your world kid" .. Kudos to Jordan and we miss you Rocky..
Creed is nothing without sylvester stallone
Creed 3 made more money than any movie in the whole franchise.
Box office proved Stallone is not the reason the film does well. It's the directing and writing
@sean swisher if you are gonna compare, make sure to calculate for inflation
@@adamdavidsoddities8573 ok dumb shit, ppl would be less likely to go to a movie if it's tickets are more expensive. The fact it has staying power shows ppl are willing to pay a lot to see it. Rocky 1 literally sold tickets because they were 75 cents. Ppl would go and see it 3 times a day because they were so cheap. The rocky franchise was dead until creed revived it. If they had kept making rocky movies than you'd get Rambo last blood level of shittiness. But I'm sure y'all will tolerate bad entertainment as long as it stars White guys
@@adamdavidsoddities8573 Sure, but that's not how its counted. No one ever says Gone with the Wind is the top grossing movie of all time. Point is the Creed Franchise is a huge success whether Stallone is in it or not.
There should be a Mickey Spin off show on the mid 20s. Barry Keogon should play him.
I always thought about that idea. Of a prequel that, in each season, shows him getting older, and it ending with him becoming the Mickey we know.
@@averagejoe2402 it would be so cool and I would be for it!
I felt them having everyone in the film except rocky was odd. The film is good, but you need rocky and creeds emotionally dynamic connection. Rocky is part of the story. They needed him. The gap was huge in my opinion. Creed 1 and 2 are better films
Creed will never be remembered rocky will never be forgotten!! No mickey no paulie no apollo !!!
Rocky would have never been without Winkler. A deal is a deal. Stallone needs to learn he can't always have his way. I hope he gets over his ego and plays a part with Creed 4
This hole thing is literally the Story arc of Tommy Gunn….
Winkler does suck tho.
Rocky will most likely be in Creed 4, the point of Creed 3 was to go into Adonis and his past the movie was about growth with him and B, Michael said himself he expects more Creed franchises down the road and at least one of them with Stallone in it
Thank you someone said it
Doubt it. They'll do the girl power shtick with his daughter, the first movie will be alright just based on Jordan's credibility but highly overrated. The second will be shit and the whole legacy will die there.
It's too bad they really screwed creed 3 up as Jordan had just really owned the character.
TRUTH. Not even Jordan could deny the fact that Stallone absolutely should own the rights to the ROCKY franchise. I have always loved SLY, respect him and feel sympathy for him in regards to this.... HOWEVER.
I went to film school and have a very sharp eye when it comes to film direction/cinematography and VISUALLY Michael B. Jordan took Creed 3 to a whole new level. God bless SLY. NO disrespect but he directed 12 Rocky movies and Jordans boxing choreography/cinematography was possibly the best boxing movie in history. Im very anxious to see what he does in the future... if we have not met our demise by then due to the upcoming World War 3.
You can put Creed as the title but it is still a Rocky movie and there is no movie without Stallone!
Only one Rocky and one Creed. It’s Apollo
Love both the Rocky & Creed franchises. Seems like creative differences between a bunch of rich people to me 😂 I enjoyed getting to know more of Adonis’ backstory prior to meeting up with Rocky 🤷🏽♀️
@AarushKumar-sf1vkyou seem to be very passionate about this video based on your many replies to different comments. I’m not going back & forth. I said what I said.
Felt like a forced backstory that was never part of his character when they initially created him. We got enough of a backstory in the first creed. This whole film felt forced. Terrible script
@@jeffcunningham0389 you sound dumb! It wasn’t forced.He was in A damn group home in the first movie! That’s where the story came from, the whole damn beginning Lmaoo 😂
@@jeffcunningham0389Cool!
@Kim Bailey I agree with you. Fanboys just don't like change. I love Creed 3. I would have loved to have seen Rocky, but it doesn't make or break this movie.
I think Mr Jordan is incredibly talented and never disappoints when he performs and while I understand why he’s saying this now it wasn’t on anyone’s radar as a problem until Stallone spoke out. This is classic Hollywood spin and nothing more, the fault isn’t with Mr Jordan he’s doing his job and protecting the movie and those involved which is beyond commendable.
He be nobody if it wasn't for sly ...
The movies don’t need Rocky as a primary character anymore but he loves Donnie like another son so it does just feel strange for him to not have any appearance at all. Even just a vocal cameo of the two talking on the phone would be good
Huge fan of Rocky here. Have not yet watched Creed 3 though 1 and 2 were quite good actually. I was hoping for more Viktor Drago story in fact. Him not being there + Rocky being entirely absent made Creed 3 not a priority. Anyway, it all boils down to a matter of taste and expectations. As many have said here, we owe Stallone anything that has to do with Rocky and Creed.
While I am at it, RIP Carl Weathers; you were a real champ!
Saw creed 3 yesterday and it was a 3 out of 10 imo
Agreed. I'd give it like a 4 or 5
I'm surprised you say it was even that good.
It took them 3 movies to finally make Adonis Creed a somewhat likeable character.
I've officially seen Creed III four times and I'm not ashamed to say it hasn't gotten old to me yet 😂
It's a good movie. People hate.
@@rodjjt7742 ikr, regardless of the hate, they can't deny it broke the record as being the highest grossed movie of the Rocky franchise on opening weekend AND of all time, so far at $260 million 💯
I don’t think what Stallone said was wrong. The market is over saturated with spin offs killing a franchise. The whole Rocky series is special for that reason. Core movies with unforgettable characters and moments. I feel like we’ve seen everything we need to see between Rocky IV and Creed II
I’m a huge fan of Rocky Balboa(who isn’t?) but I believe Michael B Jordan has done a pretty good job here! It’s fair enough for him to seek his own path. For sure he can shine on his own, why wouldn’t he?
It bothers him even though the movie is called CREED its ROCKY who is still the main character and it's hard standing in such a huge shadow and no matter what none of the movies will surpass ROCKY1
Fans feel creed is better then the rocky franchise. And this is the 3rd movie usually films fall off at this point it's still climbing
It's called creed and there's no Rocky in it so how is he the main character?? It is what it's is stop crying lol creed 3 was better than Rocky
The Rocky franchise is better. It's an inspirational story of the underdog going for his shot with the world stacked against him. Adonis Creed is a rich kid who grew up in a mansion and worked a white collar job. Rocky fought because he had too. Adonis fights because he wants to. Rocky's characters are memorable and have personalities. Creed's characters do not. I can remember all Rocky's opponents: Apollo Creed in Rocky I & II. Clubber Lang in Rocky 3, The Russian guy in Rocky IV. " If he dies, he dies." Tommy in Rocky V. Don't remember the opponent in Rocky Balboa because boxers began to lack personality in the 21st century but I loved the movie and it's a must watch for entitled millennials. Yet, disrespecting their predecessors and mocking the past is what this generation loves to do so of course Creed is better to them than Rocky. In their minds, everything in the past was bad until their generation creates a remake or reboot of it.
@@francarrey7501 creed samething lol fans felt it was that and better don't hate
@@francarrey7501 Adonis was a kid who was raised in the system until he was adopted probably 10 or so years later. So coming from where he came from and using the chance he was given to be a better person is a story in itself. He then had to live up to the legacy of his father all while being a side kid. The amount of mental issues he could have alone is enough of a great story. You're clearly just hating.
The whole franchise isn’t the same without sly. But I do think he needs to acknowledge that he sold the rights off to that movie and parlayed it into a great empire. He makes it seem like it was stolen from him but it was a deal
He accepted. sucks the guy won’t sell it back but he doesn’t have to. I do hope they work something out so he can come back.
it did feel weird after the fights in and out of the ring that rocky and Adonis fought together that rocky is nowhere to be seen. No interactions from the creed family with him at all and to me that felt weird as they were like family for each other.
Thank you Rocky!
They were going to drive his franchise into the mud. Like star wars. The only reduction that bothered to work is startrek
Just watched the new Creed movie, and I seem to be alone on this, but it was my least favorite of the franchise. It lacks that "feeling" you get from the others.
I completely agree. Probably the worst in the entire Rocky series
You are not alone ! I’ve seen creed 3 . Nothing more then a bad Rap video ! The best of the Rocky movies was 2 and 3 .
I wouldn’t pay money to see a Creed movie without Stallone, just a few minutes here and there with Rocky would change that decision, Stallone is the reason we all watched the first and following Rocky movies leading to Creed.
Then stick to the Rocky movies.
I wouldn't pay to see any Creed movie at all. Catched the first one on Netflix or whatever the other day and it's just a Twitter generation rehash of Rocky, with employed rich black kid with daddy issues as main character's motivation. And this idea now of Creed movies "walking with its own two feet" is preposterous.
@@dr.juerdotitsgo5119 Say anything with that kind of scorn and it sounds stupid. Like I wouldn’t watch a movie about some random club fighter and part-time goon who inexplicably gets a shot to fight the champion. And the idea that he is able to hang with the champion is preposterous.
@@dr.juerdotitsgo5119 That is the most bias twisting of the story I've ever heard. "Rich kid" ignoring that he spent 12 years of his life raised by a single mother in a poor upbringing, before she passed and he spent time in and out of juvenile detention centres.
@@youareloved1455 Exactly. Rocky was a dirt poor loser, an everyday bottom joe that never accomplished anything. Creed lives in a mansion, has a good job, but had "a tough upbringing". How can it be more "Twitter generation" than that? lol
We need a deeper look into the Drago family backstory..
The only thing Creed III was missing was Rocky otherwise it would of been a complete masterpiece. Probably the best movie of all the Rocky movies.
The movie is called Creed. It's about time it goes its own way!!! I still have alot of respect and love for Rocky, Rambo and all the other characters he Created. Love the Evolution of the franchise!👍💯
He still could be in creed IV so idk
This^
I haven't had the chance to watch Creed III as it was out of theatres really quick here in India, so I'm just eagerly waiting for the streaming release.
It's unfortunate that Sylvester and the producer had a falling out. If Rocky was intended to be a part of this story, then needless to say it's a damn tragedy that this altercation ended that possibility.
That being said, I actually like the idea of Rocky not being a big part of Creed's third flick, because it's my belief that the next big journey of character evolution for Adonis should be going out on his own and thriving, and essentially doing so WITHOUT the presence of his mentor and someone as big a personality as Rocky. I sincerely believe that advancement in this direction would be highly suitable for a character like Adonis, somebody who grew up without a father figure and still turned out to be a tough, responsible and also a somewhat caring personality. His ruthlessly tough attitude was obviously a result of his initial environment and his biological heritage - genes he inherited from Apollo. His other defining traits, that results in him also adopting a responsible, individualistic and a somewhat caring nature is clearly due to his stepmother, who herself displayed these characteristics through her righteous actions. These somewhat similar circumstances of moving forward on his own as an adult, as he had to for most of his childhood result in an uncanny mirroring of his situation except he has better chance of redirecting this situation in his favor due to the various tools he now has at his disposal which are simply his skills and strong mindset that he has so painfully acquired by paying his dues. This would result in an emotionally satisfying full circle moment for him, fuelling his confidence to a herculean level. A sheer wave of undying self belief fuelled by reflection on his journey, knowing that unlike in the early childhood, in the early adulthood he had someone like Rocky to guide him in the beginning of his career in the big leagues. Besides this will beyond doubt add to the legacy of the person whose shadow looms large all over this acclaimed franchise, Rocky himself doing so by essentially demonstrating that the his mentorship was sufficient for Adonis to evolve into this even sterner and adaptable individual than before, someone who moulds himself to more grim and harder circumstances when the situation calls for it.
Needless to say that this progression also boosts rocky's confidence and self belief in a key manner. Standing as a huge testament to the efficiency and criticality of his guidance, which was, albeit temporary, but fundamental for Adonis to be what he is.
In a nutshell, a brief interaction between the two, or, just rocky doing something in the mid-credits or the post-credit scene would have sufficed for this movie. This would have actually tied well with the continuity of the series, because I heard some time back that Sylvester was developing a 7th and final rocky movie in which he was supposed to help a young illegal immigrant who's stuck in the country, navigating him/her both as a trainer and a reluctant guardian. They could have added some prelude to that movie in the post credits of this one.
Well, that's it, my humble opinion on this whole issue.
I'm a longtime fan of these characters. All of them - Apollo, Mickey, Adrian, Mary Anne, Clubber Lang, Ivan, Viktor, Adonis, Paulie, Badass bald dude who was Apollo's trainer and a sort of father figure (forgot his name!) and of course, ROCKY, who is one of the most inspiring, legendary and 'Electrifying' characters to be ever written and portrayed in the Film media.
I know it's a lengthy & unusually long comment so thanks to anyone who actually reads the whole thing. Haha.
The reason for me writing so much about this is the simple fact that these fictional figures and these movies are extremely near and dear to my heart. I'm 26 currently and have been watching Rocky since I was 10.
So providing a cohesive and detailed opinion about all this was somewhat essential on my part.
Update : I watched CREED 3. It was BADASSSS💯🕺💪. Jonathan Majors knocked it out the damn park🫡. Guy was born to play an antihero. Also, it's actually amazing all the antagonists in Creed movies have been some sort of tragic antiheroes more than villains. It's actually a very realistic characteristic of creed movies that was sometimes not present in Rocky movies i.e. Clubber Lang and Tommy Gunn. Don't get me wrong these were amazing characters, especially Mr.T. They were not two dimensional but they were very outright evil. Creed movies actually improve on this particular aspect, but now I think it's time to actually put in a character like that, someone who is truly a definitive bad guy. Someone with no qualms about deploying extremely unethical tactics, someone bulkier, larger, cunning and exponentially chaotic. This would be an interesting turn of events going ahead; And needless to say that the next one should absolutely have ROCKY IN IT! No argument about it, Rocky should be there to provide critical guidance and I would actually like it more if it cuts down everything else and heavily focuses on Rocky and Adonis's relationship & their game plan with less of Bianca, creed's daughter and rocky's family. They're amazing characters too but it'll be some next level hard-core strategic fight movie if they go this way and I believe that's what the next chapter should be for Adonis.
Also! Rocky should have been present at Mary Anne's funeral, like c'mon! They knew each other for a long time, it felt extremely odd that Rocky wasn't there and they didn't address his absence in any way. A damn tragedy👎. At least rocky's son should have been at that scene.
Anyway, all in all it was a nice experience. A solid 4/5. I'd rate it more if Rocky had a role in it and no it's not some blind necessity for me to have Rocky there but the way the story moved it only felt natural to include him, at least for the funeral scene.
Here's hoping for a bright future for this amazing franchise!!
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Creed III was still a ROCKY movie. Just like in the martial arts philosophy, "When the student is truly ready, his master will disappear". Just like Rocky in I, II, and III, Rocky still wasn't ready to be his own. That is why Micky and Apollo were there for him. It wasn't until IV that he found the way to climb the mountain top on his own (peep the metaphor). Creed III is the same for Adonis. It was his turn to climb his own mountain but just in a different perspective of life. Rocky knew Adonis can hold his own. That is why there was no need for Rocky to stop spending time with his granddaughter.
MBJ in 5 years "I'm burnt out with Creed, I'm moving on."
Stallone: "WTF!?"
I loved Creed 3....But it's a damn shame Rocky wasn't involved...Just show an icon respect...
Time moves on with everyone and everything.
Loved this movie. Hopefully they can bring Rocky back in 4
You know what would have been cool? Not a criticism just something I thought of. As long as they were using artistic license and special effects like the crowd disappearing and the prison bars next to the boxing ring I would have loved to have seen both of them morph for a minute or so into their teen selves having the actors who portrayed them as adolescents earlier in the movie fighting to symbolize their emotions regressing to that earlier stage.
@@Zurround That would've been dope to see.
@@cratereckless I wonder if Mike WANTED that but the 2 teen actors were not both skilled enough to fight in a believable manner. Would be really cool if the 2 teen actors got injuries on their faces then when they morph back into adults the makeup artists keep those same injuries consistent for the older actors.
This isn't Michael B. Jordan's creation. Sylvester Stallone created this franchise.
Pretty crappy that they're trying to erase Rocky.
Creed without Rocky is like: Breaking Bad without Walther White, Lord of the Rings without Aragorn, Godfather without Vito Corleone, it is very sad...