EMULATION vs ORIGINAL HARDWARE (Retro Round Table)

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  • Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024

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  • @adinwalls
    @adinwalls День назад +67

    Let's just take a moment to appreciate the Phawx's ability to accurately point behind him!

    • @miaouwu22
      @miaouwu22 День назад +2

      No replies? Let me fix that 😎😎

    • @chimrichalds81
      @chimrichalds81 День назад +1

      Something different about the phawx. Seems like he has a 150iq

  • @carrot708
    @carrot708 День назад +31

    Buying 15+ year old tech and 15+ year old games has gone from "The only morally acceptible way to play those games" to a collector hobby.

    • @NeilRamsay-q4z
      @NeilRamsay-q4z День назад +11

      It became too expensive to get older stuff. And I’d never be able to find and any of the good games.

    • @rolux4853
      @rolux4853 День назад +11

      When it comes to Nintendo the only morally acceptable thing is downloading their roms.
      Yes that also involves the switch for me, since that corporation is pure evil.
      Absolutely revolting behavior, they destroyed so many lives with their greed..

    • @RemoWilliams1227
      @RemoWilliams1227 День назад

      @@rolux4853 agreed Nintendo sux, yarr.

    • @Sonic6293
      @Sonic6293 День назад

      It's expensive, I don't feel bad having full ROM sets.

    • @NeilRamsay-q4z
      @NeilRamsay-q4z День назад

      Can you point to what Nintendo has done, I'm not familiar with anything negative...

  • @CheapOneLiners
    @CheapOneLiners День назад +25

    If I'm in my jammies and I have a bowl of Cap'n Crunch in my hands: original hardware. If I'm in my big boy pants and rounding up the nerve to leave the house: emulation.

  • @MorrisseyMuse
    @MorrisseyMuse День назад +130

    Physical media eventually dies. Emulation is the future whether we like it or not.

    • @zDToddy
      @zDToddy День назад +4

      Everything dies

    • @Mou91BLN
      @Mou91BLN День назад +2

      Yeah and I don't like this but the future is like you said ... 😢

    • @dlericx1876
      @dlericx1876 День назад +1

      I don't think it's gonna die just became more and more expensive hobby

    • @SilentCanary
      @SilentCanary День назад

      Oh man! This is a hard pill to swallow but yeah, physical media will eventually go extinct. Maybe when we’re old timers!!

    • @Jesus0nSteroids
      @Jesus0nSteroids День назад

      ​@@dlericx1876 all physical media eventually breaks down and becomes unusable, "dying"

  • @TSDT
    @TSDT День назад +10

    I live in Vietnam - there are some hard-core madlads who own original hardware/clones, but I find emulation just magical indeed. To have a basically complete library of a bunch of great titles and share them with my wife who didn't experience them growing up but was nonetheless fascinated.

  • @bobthegreat_7002
    @bobthegreat_7002 День назад +19

    Emulation is the ultimate way to game.

    • @SuperFlashDriver
      @SuperFlashDriver День назад

      I like to do a bit of both, but emulation I do most of the time, while for other consoles not so much.

    • @SNKev411
      @SNKev411 День назад +2

      You have a Point however, emulation may have latency original hardware is nice. I love it all

    • @grantschubach1877
      @grantschubach1877 23 часа назад

      I agree emulation is the way to go.

  • @MrSamuelAdam4
    @MrSamuelAdam4 День назад +13

    I emulate but I use the original controllers to make it feel like I'm still playing on OEM hardware with filters that make the game look like from the early 90's.

  • @CitizenRPG
    @CitizenRPG День назад +46

    Emulation, hands down. You can easily obtain games at no cost, without wasting space, and with added benefits!

    • @Mou91BLN
      @Mou91BLN День назад +3

      Right ❤

    • @azzaisme
      @azzaisme День назад +3

      That's illegal 😂

    • @MisterDrumsNoob
      @MisterDrumsNoob День назад +5

      Piracy on original hardware is a good option also.
      A modded vita with games is a better experience than vita3k

    • @caspay21
      @caspay21 День назад +4

      Fast forward + RPGs + treadmill has become my favorite hobby. Gaming way more and being way healthier is an unexpected future

    • @toycoma98
      @toycoma98 День назад +2

      @@MisterDrumsNoob vita3k cant even play all the games, there is a compatibility chart.

  • @retrotechdad
    @retrotechdad День назад +4

    What a wonderful way to start my morning! Thank you TD for including me 💗💗💗💗

  • @matsunami
    @matsunami День назад +10

    Retroachievements was a game changer for me. What's the point of playing a game if you can't document it with stats and fake internet points?

    • @jinstinky501
      @jinstinky501 10 часов назад +2

      It's like going to an arcade and seeing how your skills compare to others.

    • @skycloud4802
      @skycloud4802 9 часов назад +2

      I do understand why some people think like that, but for me that's like saying that all my decades and years of playing retro consoles were for naught. I had fun with them for being simply fun for fun's sake, if that makes any sense?
      What does help with emulation, is the save states and screen filter options (especially as I no longer have a CRT). Some portables, like the Gameboy have very nostalgic screens, however the faintness, ghosting, and lack of backlighting doesn't help the experience.

  • @DaBigCheeso
    @DaBigCheeso День назад +20

    I sold my retro collection to help fund the parts to a nice gaming PC and emulated what I wanted to play. I found myself playing more since I didn't have to hunt for a cartridge, make sure the right console was connected, fiddle with decades old hardware that may be starting to fail, etc. Now I can just go into Launchbox, pick a system, pick a game and I'm playing. My one exception was I went back and restarted an Xbox and Xbox 360 collection since some of those games weren't as easy to emulate and I like those systems. No way I'd go back to any of the 8 or 16 bit hardware though, or PS1, I have been spoiled by the extra settings and features I've gotten from emulation.

    • @ottosantiagolassus
      @ottosantiagolassus День назад +2

      Did exactly the same

    • @brunan-gi147
      @brunan-gi147 День назад +2

      Did almost the same. Have a nice HTPC hooked up to my 85 inch 4k TV in my living room and using wireless keyboard and mouse and controllers with LaunchBox setup. Consoles look great on it esp upscaled. The handheld systems look kind of bad stretched on an 85 inch screen but that is why I have the Anbernic 35xxSP for.
      I did keep some Sega Genesis, GameGear and OG GameBoy games just for nostalgia sake but got rid of everything else. I think its ok to mix emulation but have a few favorite original systems and games for them.

    • @egon4564
      @egon4564 День назад +1

      I have most of the USA Dreamcast library including the hard to find capcom fighters and shumps. Really thinking about getting rid of them since $50 emulation handhelds can play those games on a TV with Bluetooth controllers.

    • @DaBigCheeso
      @DaBigCheeso День назад

      @@egon4564 Looking back, selling my Dreamcast 20 years ago was one of my greatest retro regrets, but once that Power Stone Capcom collection drops, every single game I had on there EXCEPT the WWF titles has been ported elsewhere. The WWF titles I can emulate.

    • @mindlessftw
      @mindlessftw День назад

      I plan to keep my retro collection for my daughter. When i die she can hopefully sell a buy something nice

  • @lars309
    @lars309 День назад +4

    This was a very cool video idea...well done. Russ's points are exactly how I feel, preservation of all my consoles

  • @Tetrastructural
    @Tetrastructural День назад +3

    For me a lot of the nostalgia I had for original hardware is in the controllers. For that reason I love that we can now get Bluetooth or usb versions of classic controllers like Nintendo 64 and connect to something like Batocera PC and feel like we are playing the real thing. Also, I generally don’t upscale N64 in emulation. I keep the original resolution and add simple filters to smooth things out like a crt would. Upping the resolution makes for much sharper image with cleaner lines but also makes everything look flat and all the original low res textures don’t scale up so they look like crap comparatively.

  • @Ankjell
    @Ankjell День назад +2

    As a friend of non-clutter, I find emulation much more appealing than a bunch of stuff hanging around gathering dust.

  • @gapster77
    @gapster77 День назад

    I’m loving the Round Table, all ready see all these faces having got into the emulation hobby over the last couple of years, and it’s really good to see the collaboration of all these guys and hear their comparative views, all in a fast easily digested format.
    This series is a winner 👌🏻

  • @pixels_per_minute
    @pixels_per_minute День назад +3

    I love preserving physical games, but that also means not playing them a lot and keeping them safe.
    I much prefer emulation because it not only keeps the original games and hardware in good condition if stored well, but I can emulate the games on almost anything I want and take them wherever I go.
    I also have a pretty powerful PC, so just seeing what I can emulate and how far I can push those older games is really fun for me.

    • @sandplasma
      @sandplasma 15 часов назад

      That's like not sleeping with your girl to keep her nice for the next guy.

  • @jalene150
    @jalene150 День назад +2

    My only wish for Christmas this year is for an official Techdweeb podcast.

  • @yochrisnelson
    @yochrisnelson День назад

    I absolutely love this series! Your editing is always top tier comedy, but also you always assemble an amazing cast with great insights! I’m so glad the table is round so nobody is stuck at the corner with nowhere to put their mug of rootbeer

  • @ToyKeeper
    @ToyKeeper День назад +1

    I gave my old games to my sister like 20 years ago, because I knew I'd never use them again since I had switched to emulation. And the scene has gotten massively better since then. I don't miss that old stuff at all when I've got literally all of it available at a moment's notice on an old raspberry pi, complete with modern features to improve the experience.

  • @CZpersi
    @CZpersi День назад +1

    As the amount of available original hardware gets thinner and prices more extreme, most of the retro-gamers will have to look for alternatives: 1. Hardware emulation (FPGA), 2: After-market clones, 3. Software emulation. It is great that all of the approaches continue developing. In the end, each game, hardware and player need a bit different approach.

  • @DonWeaselYeehawEdition
    @DonWeaselYeehawEdition 23 часа назад

    I really appreciate the points and perspectives here! Hardware preservation, hardware and game design, and the ever increasing expense of retro gaming hardware are all factors that play into the importance of both emulation and original hardware. Great video as always!

  • @justchan2443
    @justchan2443 День назад +4

    What's Ken Making did a good video comparing FPGA and ARM. In this day and age, all you need is a mini gaming PC and/or a retro handled and then you have the whole retro library. If you are worry about accuracy because slight visual bugs bother in a small number of games, if you have the hardware, their are plenty of accurate emulators like PSX Beetle, BSNES, MGBA, ect.

  • @ben-tendo
    @ben-tendo День назад +4

    There’s also the middle ground, original hardware but modded to take backups. My Wii, GC and N64 have all been modded to take SD card backups but still run on authentic hardware. The SNES and NES are next.

    • @TechDweeb
      @TechDweeb  День назад +2

      I'm excited to mod a 2nd hand Gamecube soon!

    • @neogohanamv
      @neogohanamv 22 часа назад

      GDEmu on Dreamcast, xStation on PS1, Fenrir on Saturn, OPL on PS2... Lots of great options for disc-based games, too.

  • @adinwalls
    @adinwalls День назад +12

    We need to remind Stubbs not to take his bedtime gummies before making these clips.

  • @ElmetiYT
    @ElmetiYT День назад +4

    As i am watching this, I have the same feeling as watching The Avengers for the first time

    • @bootlegsnackz
      @bootlegsnackz День назад

      Came here to say something like this. I love when all my favorite RUclipsrs in a specific genre get together and make a supergroup video. Also warms my heart to this community.

  • @GameTechTalk
    @GameTechTalk День назад +1

    Kobe would be proud cause this guy simply never misses. Great video Dweeb, great job to the entire panel as well!

    • @TechDweeb
      @TechDweeb  День назад +1

      You take the win for best gag of the series!

  • @banboosy
    @banboosy День назад +2

    Fantastic idea for a discussion. Would love to see more of these.

  • @Paintjeezy
    @Paintjeezy День назад +1

    Sometimes I think I like TRYING to play the games as much as playing them. Emulation is a game within itself.

  • @prestonwood4558
    @prestonwood4558 21 час назад

    Retro round table for the win. This is an amazing concept. Really enjoy the different opinions and perspectives

  • @gtssage
    @gtssage 20 часов назад

    Awesome content TechDweeb. As an old school gamer myself, playing arcade and any other old school system, emulation is most convenient for me.

  • @henrytuttle
    @henrytuttle День назад +3

    Wii original. Dreamcast original for 4 player games (because the wires kept everyone in close). I think I'd say the same for NBA Jam and other 4 player arcade machines. There was something about being shoulder to shoulder.

    • @Patrick-bn5rp
      @Patrick-bn5rp День назад

      Why not pick up a USB hub and some wired 8bit do remotes?

  • @ChaosGenerator
    @ChaosGenerator День назад +1

    Here are my preferences: Emulation if playing on a modern display without all of the needed scalers and original hardware if playing on a CRT and I want to relive your childhood with all of the vibes of your memories intact. Both have merits and a time and place. The fact that my Raspberry Pi can connect to a CRT via its 3.5mm jack that is capable of composite makes that a great option as well if save states and all of the modern conveniences are important due to a game's difficulty, lack of save functionality, etc. It is all very specific to what we want and need at a given time.

  • @KerenskyTheRed
    @KerenskyTheRed День назад +1

    I first got into retro emulation back in 2008. Things were more primitive then, at that point, PS1 emulation was hit or miss. Most N64 games could be emulated, but a few games still didn't run quite right. And emulating the GameCube consistantly was still a dream. I have always preferred using original hardware and I think I always will.
    But as time goes on, original hardware starts to break down and it gets very hard or prohibitively expensive to actually get original hardware to work. I'm looking at you Nintendo 64 Steelstick. While things like 3D printing have helped with this, I have found that I have moved more and more towards using emulation for daily use.
    Emulation has gotten to the point that it's practically indistinguishable from the original and it's just so easy to set up and use nowadays. So while I'll never turn down the opportunity to play a SNES game on original hardware, I'm finding that those opportunities are becoming a lot less frequent.

  • @tevkaber4604
    @tevkaber4604 День назад +1

    My son (10) wanted to play the original Super Mario Bros. and insisted on original hardware.
    So I dug out the NES and bought an HDMI adapter, and he got to playing.
    His discovery? “Some parts are really hard without save states! Why do Mario games even have lives?”

    • @sandplasma
      @sandplasma 15 часов назад

      Continuing to play a level until you get good is rewarding. Today's players want that dopamine hit immediately with minimal effort.

  • @nrh7ten892
    @nrh7ten892 День назад +4

    emulation, im playing games that I never played.

  • @varzainbeci
    @varzainbeci День назад +1

    Wii, Switch, 3DS, DS, PSP, PS Vita - original hardware
    everything else - emulation
    I love the way old games look on a 3.5 - 4 inch screen, especially PS1 and NES.

    • @HollowRick
      @HollowRick 17 часов назад

      I feel Wii and switch doesn't require the hardware as you can easily get Wii motes and nunchucks working on dolphin with a mayflash sensor bar
      And the only thing the switch has going for it is the the fact it's portable and if you enjoy the joycons if you mainly play docked Ryujinx at 1440p with a 60fps patches looks incredible

  • @gapster77
    @gapster77 19 часов назад

    I’m really into handheld emulation, there are so many games I wouldn’t have ever had the opportunity to play, on so many platforms, literally tens of thousands of games now made accessible, and the devices themselves are inexpensive. These are games made, at least with the older systems, when limitations were high and gameplay was more important than the graphics, substance over style.
    You ideally need a few devices, with different screen ratios to benefit from the almost inexhaustible catalogue of games on many platforms out there, and they won’t take up the space that all those old consoles and cartridges would.
    Wether it’s nostalgia or curiosity that makes you select a title to play, there is still a distinct level
    of childlike wonderment available from these very convenient little handheld devices …a very rewarding hobby!
    I’m excited to see what devices will emerge over the next couple of years, although there is a great deal of saturation at the moment, but that just means it’s a great time to start out, with all this choice and these competitive prices!

  • @TheRIkkyP
    @TheRIkkyP День назад +2

    I like a Mix of the both TBH although I’m finding it progressively hard to not have save states when I’m playing original hardware.

  • @CellPhish
    @CellPhish День назад +1

    This is a great series. It's so fun to play on original hardware for the nostalgia but all the extra stuff you have to do to make retro consoles work in modern TVs is a dismal. Retro Handhelds however I think can be a different story because most have been hacked to the point of at least adding save states. My kids don't even know what it's like to play games where you die and start over or your mom unplugs your Nintendo to vaccine and your game goes back to start.

  • @deejayB1052
    @deejayB1052 День назад +1

    Tech Dweeb, were the Brothers at.....lol where is Ur casual gamer at. That guy is sharp as a tack. He has helped me out just like Russ from (RGC) has. He's great with setting up emulators like Xbox you name it, this guy knows his stuff. See if you can get him on your next round table.🙏🏻

  • @Grimmclaw
    @Grimmclaw День назад +2

    Would have loved to see Retro Bird and his 2 cents on this video

  • @solracrod
    @solracrod День назад

    Original Hardware was great when I was a kid, now that I’m grown emulation fits my lifestyle much better. Great topic!

  • @OzymandiasWasRight
    @OzymandiasWasRight День назад

    For me emulation IS the nostalgia. Growing up my parents went above and beyond to get me plenty of gifts, but money was tight so my collection was limited. I discovered emulation in 7th grade and that became how i played most games. I always preferred to own the physical cart but that was rarely possible. Being an RPG fan made things extra hard, those tended to be more expensive, and thats IF they were even available. To this day i prefer the old fan translated versions of Tales of Phantasia, Terranigma, and Sieken Densetsu since Its how i first experienced them. If it werent for emulation i never would have been able to play some of the greatest rpgs ever made.
    Those fan translation patches made my childhood better. Special place in heaven for everyone who put so much work into creating those English patches.

  • @banboosy
    @banboosy День назад +1

    Think it would have been interesting to include a wider discussion about FPGA as well.

  • @epicglitter7218
    @epicglitter7218 11 часов назад

    This was delightful to watch! For noe, emulation is my only option due to budget. I do dust off he older game boy color once in a while... But for everyday use, my emulation retro handheld with its rechargeable batteries, ergonomic form factor, backlighting, etc definitely gets more use

    • @epicglitter7218
      @epicglitter7218 11 часов назад

      Also: I don't have storage space for a game library, or multi home consoles... Much less arcade cabinets! Rent is high, space is limited, emulation & digital games generally are more accessible for low income/budget gamers

  • @derelictfields
    @derelictfields День назад +1

    I do like playing original hardware when I can, but I'm lazy and my back hurts and I don't want to mess around with my old CRT and a bunch of wires. So for the most part I'm going to emulate, even for games I have physically. Except for my Vectrex, because there's something about that buzzing screen.

  • @retrohandhelds
    @retrohandhelds День назад +1

    🍎THANKS FOR SHOWCASING MY FAVORITE APPLE (another awesome round, thanks for including me!) Stubbs

  • @SuperFlashDriver
    @SuperFlashDriver День назад

    Retro Roundup??? Also, Dang, every single person from the emulation community coming together to discuss Emulation versus Original, this is going to be gooodddd man. (Thanks goodness I got myself something to eat+drink before this video).

  • @crktritual
    @crktritual День назад

    My Boy TechDweeb on his way !! 100k is just the beginning!!

  • @raulvito6246
    @raulvito6246 День назад +2

    Almost everyone had the RG35XXSP

  • @doozeruk2000
    @doozeruk2000 16 часов назад +1

    This is comedy gold... Nice one Techdweeb 😂

  • @charc144
    @charc144 23 часа назад

    I still own my original Vectrex and it is still my favorite system. Anyone who has had the opportunity to play the game that was built in, Mine Storm, would most likely agree it was an awesome upgrade from Asteroids. I kick myself not knowing I could have written GCE and got a fix for the glitch in the game and obtained the holy grail cartridge Mine Storm 2. I know the workaround but still would have been nice to have the cart. That being said, emulation wins. I don't want to keep using it and it break down on me. I will shed real tears on that day.

  • @ragequit7151
    @ragequit7151 День назад

    Cool little series, TD. Looking forward to season two!

  • @jkemp6791
    @jkemp6791 4 часа назад

    I’m a collector and I own over 4000 games. I hope most people going forward choose emulation so prices of video games can come down.

  • @randysmith7094
    @randysmith7094 День назад +1

    What I find funny is the original hardware purists who spend money on expensive mods like HDMI outputs. Basically turning their machines into an emulation experience. Then there's FPGA snobs who spend a fortune on this so called hardware emulation. But FPGA boards also use ARM processors in tandem for much of the processing. Such as HDMI video output and interfaces, things that can introduce the lag that they're trying to avoid. Lag that is mostly indiscernible on decent emulation setups.

  • @johnmadison3472
    @johnmadison3472 День назад

    If you had asked this 15 years ago, I'd have said original hardware. The current emulators have become so advanced, that they have virtually surpassed original hardware in every category. N64 is still a bit rough but has come a long way in the last several years. We are currently in the golden age of emulation handhelds, and I'm loving it.

    • @HollowRick
      @HollowRick 17 часов назад +1

      And now we can easily decompile Nintendo 64 games they'll come a time when we won't need to emulate the system as they'll have native pc ports

  • @carlosdestro
    @carlosdestro День назад

    I think it was 1997 when i learned that with a pc i could easily play any NES, SNES, Master System and Mega Drive game. This made me want to work with IT (they have PCs!) because as long as i have a pc nearby to play Crystalis or something , i will be able to go through the adult things.

  • @Jenisonc
    @Jenisonc День назад +1

    13:31 Agreed. N64 emu still needs work.

  • @brunan-gi147
    @brunan-gi147 День назад +1

    King Arthur is not dead. He is sleeping in Avalon until he is needed... Get it right, TD :)

  • @ScottsDeck
    @ScottsDeck День назад +1

    I love this series please keep this going

  • @guidokruijver2925
    @guidokruijver2925 День назад +1

    What about showing Your face TechDweeb ? Emulation ofcourse !

  • @sworatex1683
    @sworatex1683 День назад +2

    Please VladNerd!!!! He has to be there

  • @WiiThing
    @WiiThing День назад +1

    Don't get me wrong I LOVE emulation and retro handhelds, However, It doesn't beat having the physical console in my opinion.
    Its the nostalgia of holding the original GameCube controller or tapping the Xbox 360 power button and hearing that dinging sound it makes gives me a warm feeling, a feeling that I would have never felt with emulation. But emulation still has its advantages. sorry about the yappin session but this is my opinion. Thank for making these great videos TechDweeb!

  • @lorensims4846
    @lorensims4846 День назад +1

    I remember when the cables didn't seen long enough and somebody else wanted to use the TV.
    When I had to buy a roll of quarters just to have to go to the arcade and wait my turn to spend my quarter(s) to play that big wooden cabinet. Nothing else like it.
    First time I saw Asteroids it was in a table where one person played and everyone else gathered around to watch and offer strategy tips. No joystick on that machine. Thrust, right turn, left turn, fire, and hyperwarp were specific pinball-flipper-style buttons. The versions on the TV just can't match it.
    First time I saw Combat was another table where four players could play against each other!
    And I still haven't seen anything like that big ol' first-of-its-kind track ball on Missile Command. For my money, it's the only way to play. Oh, track ball for Centipede as well.
    Sure, emulation is more CONVENIENT, but it's got its own problems. There's still a lot it can't do.
    But it's so hard to find the old stuff anymore, especially that's still working, or even affordable.

    • @TechDweeb
      @TechDweeb  День назад +1

      I miss arcades 😔. (REAL arcades, not the fun fair arcades that are around today)

    • @lorensims4846
      @lorensims4846 День назад

      @@TechDweeb Summer of '72 I played Computer Space in a pop-up pinball arcade tent at the Ohio State Fair.
      I'll play a good arcade machine wherever I can find 'em as long as I have at least a spare quarter.
      I'm still looking for Any Way At All that I can play Computer Space again.

  • @DKTronics70
    @DKTronics70 8 часов назад

    I love emulation, mostly for more modern systems - PS2, PS3, Wii, Wii-U, Switch, etc... but I also love hand-held emulation on one of the Anbernic vertical devices, as it's close to a DMG Gameboy.
    But, for me mostly, as long as it's all set up and ready - Original Hardware all the way. You cannot beat actually using hardware that was made back in the time, something that actually has history. That history might be fun times with your family around a CRT, back in the time, bringing back some magical memories. Using original keyboards on retro computers, or actual real controllers on retro consoles - yes, you can do this with a Mister FPGA, but it still has a sort of disconnection to it.
    Thing is, would you drive a Ferrari, or Lamborghini, or whatever your dream car is, if you knew that it was a replica, with a Ford engine, and more modern parts ?
    Yes, on the outside it might look exactly like your dream car, and might even sound similar to your dream car, but it's not a REAL Ferrari, or Lamborghini, it's a replica that is close, but not perfect.

  • @gluttonousmaximus9048
    @gluttonousmaximus9048 День назад

    Honestly, sometimes emulating an old computer system and exploring different ways to enjoy them with the strange new handhelds is just about as captivating as exploring the old devices themselves - the one thing I think is boring about this is using something too standard and too safe, like with a regular day-to-day PC for example. It's more interesting to see the 3DS emulate the Virtual Boy than to see the Raspberry Pi emulate SNES with a keyboard or a regular USB gamepad.

  • @andrewT23
    @andrewT23 День назад +1

    Video game esoterica makes great videos about emulation and original hardware

  • @MrPatatSate
    @MrPatatSate День назад

    Love to play original WII on original Hardware. With HDMI adapter it's close to the same feeling like years before. Also "newer" consoles as PS3 and XBox 360 I prefere to play on original Hardware. All other Systems can be well emulated because of savestats, grafical overlays. Very nice video again TechDweeb! Greetings from Germany.

  • @mattbtv
    @mattbtv День назад

    TechDweeb where have you been hiding that BMO 2DS? What a beauty!

  • @marksuper4920
    @marksuper4920 День назад

    Personally i love the old hardware. My favorite experience is new games on old hardware because i like seeing how developers can push the limits with modern tools.

  • @Necrotheshadow
    @Necrotheshadow 17 часов назад +1

    I'm definitely an original Hardware kind of guy I have my retro gaming tower and I have my CRT computer setup for games that I think would still use it. Boils down to software modification of any system I can and if I can't then the emulation gets broken out.

  • @johnhanes3450
    @johnhanes3450 7 часов назад

    I am pretty terrible at video games, but really enjoy playing them. When I do have time to play, I love having the ability to turn on cheats so I can see the game. Emulation is typically the way I like to go. However, I do agree that playing Wii games on the Wii and 3DS DS games on their systems is the best!

  • @chazcov08
    @chazcov08 День назад +1

    I still have all of my classic consoles, all the way from the original Odyssey in1975, Microvision (first cartridge based handheld) in 1978, Odyssey II in 1980, Atari 2600 in 1981, Atari 5200 in 1982... well, you get the point, all the way up to the XBOX 360 and PS3 (is that really retro yet?) and I'm 100% in on emulation for several reasons that weren't even mentioned in this video.
    Firstly, none in your Round Table mentioned being able to play their games upscaled to 4K using HD texture packs. Run that game at 4X or 6X the internal resolution! Many older games were limited by the resolution of the output and display device and not the actual 3D models inside the game engines. Using upscaling and texture packs breathes new life into old games in a way that we never expected. Who needs a remastered version of God of War from the PS2 or PSP when you can play it with a new HD texture pack at 4K? Not me, I say.
    2ndly, no one also mentioned being able to play games from the PS2, Gamecube, Nintendo 3DS, or Wii in ACTUAL 3D. Using a 3D monitor, 3D TV, or VR headset, you can now play games with actual depth to the games. You haven't played Donkey Kong Country Returns until you've played it on a 75" 3D TV, or even in a VR headset like the Quest 3 (which is how I play my 3D games now using Virtual Desktop). This was a complete game changer for me, and I've been doing it for almost 10 years now. No one seems to mention it or even be aware.
    Thirdly, being able to play games handheld that were never meant to be played that way is a game changer (quite literally). GameCube and Xbox on planes, trains, and automobiles? Yes, please!
    Fourthly, the convenience of being able to carry your entire game library around with you on a small hard drive is ridiculous. Having a portable distribution of Batocera is something that we never could have even dreamed of 40 years ago. Could you imagine trying to carry around all of those cartridges and discs? No way, Jose.
    And lastly, you had mentioned using a Wiimote for games is a reason to keep your Wii around. If you have moderate soldering skills, or know someone who does, you can use an actual Wii Bluetooth module for connecting your Wiimote and accessories to a computer for 4K or 3D gaming sessions with zero lag. It completely bypasses the operating system software layer, and ties your Wiimotes directly into the Dolphin emulator. It is the only way I play my Wii games now, and it's fantastic. And entirely convenient.
    To me, emulation wins, hands down, in all cases. The Phawx mentions using the original controllers, which you can absolutely do using the USB adapters. And if you're holding the proper controller in your hands, and looking at the screen while playing, what does it matter what's hooked up to the display? I also noticed that his consoles were on a shelf and not hooked up to anything. Almost as if they're just display items. ;)
    Thanks for a fun video, and keep up the good work.

    • @johnmadison3472
      @johnmadison3472 День назад +1

      Microvision! Lol, I had that one with bowling and baseball. I wish I hadn't sold it. I do still have the Mattel handheld football and baseball games that came out in the late 70s. They still work great!

    • @chazcov08
      @chazcov08 День назад

      @@johnmadison3472 We had a bunch of games for it. I, too, played a bunch of bowling and baseball. Also the breakout game called "Block Buster", the Star Trek game, Connect Four, and Pinball. What a fun thing to have as a kid in the 70s!

  • @kaedeshirtoto
    @kaedeshirtoto День назад

    I have tons of original hardware and I still am holding on to it but I mentally switched to emulation years and years ago. One of the biggest things that really made me happy was the update on the PS2 emulator. Once it got that qt update the fact that so many games can be rendered widescreen and upscaled is amazing and I probably won't play on a real PS2 ever again. And 32 bit and below (maybe Saturn at times) is indiscernible from original hardware making it much easier to emulate

  • @rolux4853
    @rolux4853 День назад

    I like both!
    I have original consoles, Emulation devices, FPGA devices and my trusty gaming PC and my laptop.
    All my original consoles however are „hacked“ so you can insert a SD card or an HDD and play all the games I want on original hardware, just like I do it on my MISTer FPGA or RetroArch.

  • @DonaldWyman
    @DonaldWyman День назад

    A couple of points... A. I agree with most on here, emulation is just way more convenient, so I prefer it over real hardware along with not needing a big amount of space dedicated to it, and all of the modern features added to emulation vs real hardware. B. The point about the Wii.... You can use the Wii remote with a pc, so you can still get the awesome features of dolphin (like upscaling and such) and still use the original controller. There are Wii motion sensors you can buy that don't require that proprietary connection of the original. Other than that, I do agree DS/3ds are best on real hardware (or at least play DS on 3ds) for the dual screen/touch screen aspect.
    One thing I do like to do with emulation though is to have a close to original feeling controller, For that I am thankful there are companies out there making such products like 8bitdo, retrobit, retro flag, retrofighters and so on. To me, that is as close to real hardware as I need.

  • @markofcaine01
    @markofcaine01 11 часов назад

    Emulation allows for a multitude of different control options with modern day controllers. The n64 controller which was cutting edge of its era leaves a lot to be desired. Finally some games with single sticks can be modded or hacked to be used with dual sticks.

  • @ThomasLeskin
    @ThomasLeskin День назад

    I definitely prefer emulation because of basically what everyone has said with the modern upgrades but also for someone who doesn't want to spent a lot of money to mod consoles or to buy an OSSC, just the average gamer, emulation just looks better on modern TVs. I was never happy with trying to play my N64 on my modern 50 inch TV. The controllers are a big part of the nostalgia but we have so many options nowadays that recreate the look and feel of those controllers. I love the 8bitdo SNES style controllers. I don't feel like I'm missing out. It definitely feels like an improvement over the original, a better way to play those old games.

  • @Sizzyl
    @Sizzyl 18 часов назад +1

    I agree with adin's take, everything other than 3ds emulation cuz its so hard to enulate those dual screens right. I have been looking into a slide-up external small display of some kind tho (for my legion go) to make it more doable.

  • @MrSujano
    @MrSujano День назад +8

    EMULATIONNNNNN FTW

  • @neogohanamv
    @neogohanamv 22 часа назад

    After decades of using emulation, I've switched back to original hardware*.
    The biggest positive I can say is that it keeps me focused. Emulation is magical and super important for preservation, but it makes things *too* easy at times. Having a billion games on a handheld kind of devalues them and makes it easier to quit, cheat, scum, or fast forward a game. Nowadays I'd rather go all in on one game, no enhancements, and fight the urge to speed through the experience.
    *When I say original hardware, I mean original console and CRT. I do take advantage of BlueRetro adapters and flashcarts/ODEs where appropriate.

  • @r1pperuk
    @r1pperuk День назад +3

    G Cloud is probably the best...or Modded Switch OLED...just dont tell Nintendo..

  • @ikissfutebol12
    @ikissfutebol12 День назад

    What?!?! This better not be a case where Season 2 takes a year or more 😭😭 Season 2 coming in time for Canadian Thanksgiving?!?! Please!

  • @adrian_veidt
    @adrian_veidt День назад +1

    I'm thankful for FPGA. Now it gives more incentive to preserve older games. I think it's perfect blend of emulation and hardware. Now... if only it's cheaper 😂
    For that, I prefer software emulation

  • @zeitgeistdigital
    @zeitgeistdigital День назад +2

    FPGA will take emulation as we know it to the next level.

  • @X862go
    @X862go День назад +1

    Last episode NOOOOOOOOOO. Cant wait till season 2

  • @RadHandsPH
    @RadHandsPH День назад +1

    Into the Retroverse

  • @SpankTheMunkee
    @SpankTheMunkee 11 часов назад

    For those concerned about the tiny bit of input latency that you get with software emulation, just enable run-ahead or primitive frames through Retroach, set accordingly and you'll be golden. ^^

  • @Redpanda1214
    @Redpanda1214 День назад +4

    Emulation 100%

  • @tristanheron4144
    @tristanheron4144 День назад +2

    I'm with Adin that the PSP is such a great form factor. Still I can't go back after experiencing upscaled locked 60 fps PSP emulation.
    I would also add DS as one I prefer original hardware. The DS lite in particular looks so good for pixel art, and I can't find a filter to match it in emulation.

    • @prodyg
      @prodyg День назад

      The retroid pocket 4 is my favorite way to play PSP games.

    • @tristanheron4144
      @tristanheron4144 День назад

      ​@@prodyg I have an RG505 for playing PSP which is great. I still miss the larger d-pad and buttons from the original PSP. I believe the Retroid Pocket 4 has even smaller buttons than the RG505.

  • @donsnover2585
    @donsnover2585 День назад

    I'm going with Emulation for 2 reasons first is I have a disability and most systems and handheld are difficult to play so I need to use a joystick or controller comfortable for me, and 2nd is that tons of games have poorly thought out saving systems and save state fixes and improves them all, it's like playing with a superhero ability. Fought your way to the end and the Jillian asks you to join him? You know it's a trick but you kinda want to see the dialogue but worried about having to spend two hours to get back here save state fixes that for you

  • @sendoh873
    @sendoh873 День назад

    Emulation mostly now that I'm older. It's just too expensive and less convenient to have and or collect the original hardware and physical games. I still have all my old consoles and handhelds and video games from my childhood up to college and I don't play them much anymore. They take up a lot of space in my house. I highly doubt my original 360 works anymore. I love all of my original hardware. I have to admit that there is nothing like playing on original hardware, getting the full experience. I loved playing N64 games on the N64, Dreamcast games on the Dreamcast, Xbox 360 games on the Xbox 360, Nintendo Wii games on the Wii, etc. But, emulation just has so much benefits like being able to play these games on different devices (PC or handhelds), using different controllers, skipping/fast forwarding + rewinding, save states, retro achievements, shaders... And it's a great way to backup and preserve your physical games and still be able to play them once the physical games don't work anymore. I actually do both sometimes meaning I emulate on original hardware like emulating 3DS & DS on an actual 3DS, emulating Vita on an actual Vita, etc. If you have original classic consoles, there are many ways to emulate games on original hardware. You get the best of both worlds. Emulation is the way I go 95% of the time but I'm missing the sale of physical media. I don't love the direction we're heading to with media. An all digital media world scares me. Sorry for the long comment but thank you for this awesome episode of Retro Round Table and I enjoyed the entire series TechDweeb. Can't wait for more!

  • @SNKev411
    @SNKev411 День назад +2

    Although emulation is convenient,Original hardware for me because no latency

    • @wildman1978101
      @wildman1978101 День назад

      Depends on the game. Final Fantasy is so much faster when emulating. Super Mario 2 or Mike Tysons Punchout is intolerable on emulation.

    • @SNKev411
      @SNKev411 День назад

      @@wildman1978101 to be honest with you, you know what’s king FPGA hardware emulation that is the goat I love it

    • @SNKev411
      @SNKev411 День назад

      @@wildman1978101 although it’s a bit pricey, the FPGA Mr. is so worth because software emulation is like a five star hotel however with hardware emulation is like a five star resort

    • @wildman1978101
      @wildman1978101 12 часов назад

      @@SNKev411 Ive been following FPGA forever and with the new clone boards it might be time to try it out. Money isnt really an object because I cant believe how much all my old systems are worth now, and they all have multicarts.

  • @monkeymandogthing
    @monkeymandogthing День назад

    I don't like to tinker, I don't enjoy having to research which websites are safe to download from, I don't like the jank, I like turning something on and it works. I like having my games displayed in a physical library rather than just a list, I like using original controllers, I like looking at cover art and manuals. To me emulation will never replace the real thing, but I can see why for people less nostalgic than I am or who don't have the space or money that I do.

  • @jaymel4691
    @jaymel4691 День назад

    As much as I love the original hardware, it will all break down eventually, and emulation will be the only option left. Also, most of the older systems have awkward and sometimes painful controllers that I just can't use comfortably anymore as I get old, lol. A lot of the older systems also don't have the extra features like save states, upscaling, etc that makes life so much easier for me. I want to play the games and enjoy my time with them, not have to put up with hand/wrist cramps. And I just don't have money or space for a bunch of old consoles, cartridges, cables, etc.

  • @nighcruzade
    @nighcruzade День назад

    Like the idea of having, retro hardware like a piece of nostalgia or digital art. But for many reasons emulation in terms of gaming is a much convinient method.

  • @IronbugVR
    @IronbugVR День назад

    I have to go with emulation. I do miss all my consoles from the 80s and 90s and loved using them. Back then though, I always dreamed of a Gameboy like handheld for each console and today we have that and I am living the dream.

  • @MithosDagon
    @MithosDagon День назад

    Emulation for sure. Especially since I have entire console catalogues on one device. I also have access to several QOL and newer features that emulation offers.

  • @josephbradshaw6985
    @josephbradshaw6985 День назад +1

    Play emulation, collect hardware.

  • @eddiep56
    @eddiep56 День назад

    Emulation...the convenience makes it the reason why I love emulation