@@daleyhuard3675 What do you mean? I see no connection between your message and the rest of the thread. Thread: A time machine could have been made at any point and then travel to this time. Daley: But what about the previous user? To answer your question I will refer to The legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. The ocarina is an heirloom. Link acquired it when Impa took Zelda away from Hyrule castle. The previous owners aged and died.
In relation to the Sheikah-Music connection it's also worth noting that the Goddess Harp in Skyward Sword and the Harp that Sheik/Zelda has in Ocarina of Time are likely the same.
"Is the ocarina of legend more ancient than I talked about" I mean I didn't see anywhere where it says how long ago the composer brothers completed their research and died, so could still be ancient
@@rebekahheadrick1046, even *if* it's not in the same reality, but in a different universe entirely, it still means it exists because that's going off the assumption that the multiverse theory is true.
@D.C. Canipe good point. But what about that link in Majora's mask is dead theory? It could be real? But as pergitory or something similar but have no other connections to Hyrule.
I'm going to have to disagree. The fact that the composer Brothers seem to have died only a few decades before the game at most and Zelda's implication that the Ocarina is passed down the Royal Line don't match up. More likely the composer Brothers were merely researchers into magical music. Likely choosing this instrument because they already knew about the Ocarina. It could have been a sheikah project but it's in game description seems too old.
Also i think the brothers are referring exclusively to the Sun Song. And that song works regardless of which ocarina you use. It is possible that Ganondorf just wanted to know how that song magic worked without the Ocarina of Time. If you can have songs that are magic regardless of the properties of the instrument, you might also be able to open the door of time with some other magical tune. But we won't know cause the brothers went and died.
What about the ocarina in Minish Cap? It doesn't alter time, but it *is* blue, it's obtained in an ancient ruin, and it can summon a bird from anywhere.
Well when your dealing with time, it could've very well been made in the distant future then set adrift in time. The Song of Storms has no origin either. In the same manner we learn it, the Ocarina could have been "passed down" to someone who passed it back onto the same person who gave it effectively creating itself. This is why I hate Time related lore for anything, such a headache.
When you talk a out legend made by a people who apparently dealt in both Prophecy and time fuckery, why not sealing the door of the Temple of Time knowing that the instrument to open it would be created just in time for it to be necessary?
Have you noticed that when Sheik teaches the songs to Link, she is playing a harp? Perharps the Goddess Harp from SS? That means there are several magical instruments connected with the Goddesses and the royal family. Maybe there was a concert at the beginning of Time and they needed the instruments xD
I feel the composer brothers just figured out how to do additional things with the ocarina. If it's made from time stones, which we don't really see exist anywhere but in ANCIENT times, it's quite possible this artifact is much much older than we think.
I would agree. It also has the ability to control time itself, which makes the possibilities endless honestly. Who is to say the minish cap link isn't holding the ocarina of time for example. Maybe this incarnation of link is holding the ocarina of time, and just doesn't realize it, as the knowledge of the instrument and its name and its powers were lost to legends of history. I mean, the graphic used for the ocarina in that game looks suspiciously similar to the ocarina of time in ocarina of time. It is interesting to ponder a parallel in history to where the ocarina of times powers aren't mentioned because they were lost or changed. You do learn a single song in minish cap, and it is given to you by a tribe calling themselves the tribe of winds. It seems to summon winds and warp you to various locations across the map. Perhaps this is one of the oldest songs to exist for the ocarina of time, and heck maybe the ocarina of time has the ability to bend wind also. Maybe some dude found the ocarina and found a special song that had this effect, and he called it the ocarina of winds in honor, as well as creating the tribe of winds in it's name. It's all just a bunch of legends thrown around. The games are all truly works of art, in that there are so many different ways to interpret them all. Also, if it is made from timeshift stones, can you hit the ocarina to turn it off and on? I mean, in skyward sword, that is the main method of turning the stones timeshifting properties off and on again. I mean, maybe the ocarina of time can be turned off and on, but that part of its history was lost or warped or changed or whatever by the time the era of the ocarina of time game came out. It could have possibly been used in ancient times as a way of preventing the ocarina of time getting into gannondorfs hands for example. I mean, a functional ocarina of time in gannondorfs hands spells dooms day for all zelda timelines to be honest with you, specially if he figures out how to use it. Or just simply being prevented from getting in evildoers hands in general. Maybe if it is turned off, you would play a song, but no effect would come from it, rendering it useless. If this is true, the ocarina of time is clearly fully functional in the era of the ocarina of time game. Also, i just thought of this, but assuming the turning the ocarina of time off and on thing is true, it is very possible certain eras in history found this ocarina, and did not have any knowledge of what it did, and maybe had certain ancient writings of songs for it that could be used to manipulate the world as we know it, but tried to play it, and discovered it did nothing. Likely without the knowledge of turning it off and on, this era would have no use for it, and would think and feel that it's ancient power was lost or got destroyed somehow. People have this radical theory about breath of the wild being a convergence timeline. How did the timelines converge then? I truly feel the ocarina of time is going to reveal itself possibly in the breath of the wild sequel. It would make sense, assuming the timeline convergence theory is true, that the ocarina of time was played as the bridge to converging the timelines together again. That is just me though. There are so many possibilities that it is truly mindblowing. I am just curious what else the ocarina of time can do.
I think the ocarina of time dates back to the time when the ancient sages sealed the gate to the sacred realm, which was centuries ago. It was created by the sages with the song of time to serve as one of the keys to open the door of time and since became the secret treasure of the royal family. That's what I used to think.
@@Yooyooyaya No Nayru is the Goddess of Wisdom, the other two are Power and Courage. Hylia is the Goddess of the Hylian people in particular, who sacrificed herself to be reincarnated as the Skyward Sword Zelda. Hylia has been associated with Dominion over Time in numerous Zelda games.
I remember coming to this conclusion when I first completed Skyward Sword. It also makes sense as to why the time stones in Ocarina of Time share have that blue color. I also had this theory that the Temple of Time was made of Time Shift stones along with the Master Sword as we see in Twilight Princess and Ocarina of Time the Master Sword being used to turn back or manipulate time. Twilight Princess when you return the Temple of Time to it's former state when you put the Master Sword back in the pedestal.
1:30 you know at the legend of Zelda: Ocarina of time manga by Akira Himekawa it says that when Ganondorf chased Zelda, he took Link's fairy ocarina mistaking it with the ocarina of Time, because he saw Zelda throwing it behind Link, where the moat is located.
Yknow I never see people talk about the fact that the developers chose such an obscure type of instrument for a Zelda game. Like I magic conducting wand or a harp are still old-timey but I nor anyone I’ve ever met had ever heard of an ocarina aside from this game and I LOVE that
Tingle is in many games- he’s immortal. He’s one of the Golden Goddesses. Farore (forgive me if I spelled her name wrong). That’s how he creates all these things
I honestly like to believe that Nayru created the the Ocarina of Time. After all it wouldn’t be the first time Nayru both as a name and a character were used in direct correlation to time.
Woooow!!!! I had no clue you could talk to the Composer Brothers!! WHAT?! This just blew my mind!!! This may be a theory but this feels factual now. XD Excellent video MNB!
@@WhitneyCutthroat Nah they're both in OoT and MM. They're both located in Kakariko Graveyard in OoT and then in MM, Sharp is in the Final Day Ikana Graveyard and Flat is at the source of Ikana River.
I'm a little surprised that you didn't mention the Ocarina of Wind, an item from Minish Cap (The earliest game in the timeline besides Skyward Sword, hint hint) which in appearance is IDENTICAL to the Ocarina of Time. Maybe legends or pictures of that was what inspired the Composer bros to make their timeshift tool an Ocarina as opposed to some other instrument.
I propose that this is the ocarina of time, and minish cap link just doesn't know it. legends often get warped twisted and retold over the years, and often times, parts of history are also lost. We really don't know when the ocarina of time was made exactly, but it does have the ability to control time, which just opens infinite possibilites really. Maybe this era in the minish cap, the history regarding the ocarinas ability to control and warp time was lost, and that it was just some ocarina that some dude found, that seemed to have a very peculiar yet strange effect when he played that song on the ocarina. It summoned a windy thingy and a bird and warped him across the map, thus having this dude calling it the ocarina of winds, and with that, the ancient wind tribe followed suit as well, becoming known as the tribe of winds. Like i said, it is a stretch, but the skyward sword era thrived on a bird like status, flying all around as well. Maybe when link received the ocarina in minish cap also, all of the ocarina of times history was lost, and no one really knew the power it possesed, if any at all. It seemed to respond to the windy song that summoned a bird to warp you to places though. We also don't know all of the ocarina of times properties either. It does however have the main ability to control time, as hinted at by the game of the same name. Another question i ponder is that the ocarina of time lines up suspiciously with the time shift stones in skyward sword. You can hit those stones to turn them on and off. Hitting them causes the finite time past thing to open, and hitting them again closes it, causing it to shift the finite space back to the present time. My question is, could the same thing be done to the ocarina of time, hitting it to turn it off and on again? I feel the ocarina of time itself is a more portable version of the timeshift stones themselves, magically crafted to be attuned to different specially crafted songs by the royal composers of hyrules royal family themselves. Each song when played is designed to do a different thing. Just to name a few, we have power over storms, power over time, power over night and day, the ability to summon horses at your beckoned call, the ability to warp you to different locations on the map. If the hitting the ocarina of time to turn it off and on is true, very likely it was lost to history, and that nature of the ocarinas power was lost by the time the ocarina of time game came out. It could have been a counter measure to prevent evil from possesing its full power. Possibly, if it was turned off, you could play a song on it, but it would have had no effect. In minish cap, maybe the windy bird song you play is perhaps one of the oldest song properties played on the ocarina of time, and had the ability to control wind at some point. Who the heck knows. There is a very popular theory regarding breath of the wild being a convergence timeline. How exactly did it converge? I feel the ocarina of time may have had something to do with it. I mean, the damn thing has the ability to control time itself at will, so maybe it was used in a certain way, converging the timelines back together.
The OoT has to be far older than that considering that the temple of time protects the entrance to the sacred realm, and the pedestal of the master sword which can only be drawn by the chosen hero. Also the spiritual stone of water has to have been around at least a few generations seeing as it's become a tradition amongst Zora royal family to gift the stone to the person they will marry as a proposal ritual.
Absolutely amazing analysis, even more-so than usual, Mask! I don't reckon I've ever heard anyone so much as speculate on this topic, much less pull it all together in a cohesive exposition; in the words of Falco, "You're gettin' better, Fox!"
3:25 to receive information from the legend of Zelda, you can go to Google search, you can find thru Wikipedia, Zeldapedia, or Zelda Wiki. They also have information from the books you mentioned.
The purpose of the ocarina makes sense within this theory. Supposing that the Hyrule Civil War is the war mentioned in TP (where everyone became so crazy in entering to the sacred realm) and the war that made the hero of time orphan. Makes sense that the royal family asked the sheikah a way to protect the entrance to the sacred realm. Not only by the sacred stones but also with an instrument that, in case some more Interlopers got inside the realm, had time travel properties to revert that. I like this theory. It makes sense
I would think that its more ancient than what you propose here. When Zelda speaks of the Ocarina, the instrument its already a Legendary Instrument and that kind of implies that its been around for a decent amount of time at least. If the composer brothers were the ones that made the ocarina, it would have been a recent instrument.
what about the tingle tuner? The best item in the whole series? Obviously not the work of such lowly beings like din, nayru, farore, hylia, or even those crude sheikah. no, only a man destined for greatness could've crafted such a wondrous item. A legendary hero, clad in green. THE ONE, THE ONLY, TIIIIIIINGLE.
Wow, amazing theory! I am definitely convinced. I realize I have only ever talked to the brother on the right side, and not the left. Great video Bandit!
Convinced! Skyward sword did a great job of explaining it with the time stones, but the connection your drawn between the time stones and the composer brothers is what drove your theory home.
Going back through some old videos. I do like this theory. I've often felt that the instrument was much older, but that's probably my own narrative taste. Whenever I see/saw Ocarinas in other games, I always question if there is a connection.
I think Zelda from Skyward Sword made the Ocarina of Time, composed the Song of Time, and used them to permanently rejuvenate parts of Lanayru, turning the Sand Sea into Lake Hylia.
Your research is fantastic! The actual words from Sharp and Flatt are extremely convincing! I also suspected the timeshift stones, but I personally have a different theory. All due respect, if the Composer brothers were born a long time ago, ( a really long time ago) then they may not have lived in the same century as Ganondorf! Now there's no actual dated timeline, so at this point it's tricky. Looking at the Lanyru Facility, I'd agree that the Sheikah were experimenting with time travel and that their research finally led to Ocarina. I think that the Ancient Sages, who were probably Sheikah and who built the temple of time to protect the Master'sword after mankind repopulated the earth, also created the Ocarina. One way or another, I really enjoyed your video, MaskedNintendoBandit.
The brothers were ancient serveants of the Royal Family so the Ganodorf that they meet probably was another generation before that, and the instrument was passed on from generations among the Sheika, as you said, an ancient artifact.
It's myamoto, he used the portal to this world's sacred realm found in Nintendo HQ to transport himself to right after the era of the sky to create it out of the last timeshift stone
Would to add something here. I personally think that the sage ryanu also had a hand in it. Possibly providing the necessary time shift pieces for it given that he built the temple of time to protect the scared realm in the first place.
Well done. A compelling theory. It's game theories like these that I wish the creators would pay attention to and adopt or at least offer a clear alternative.
Thing is, the Ocarina of Time is said to be one of 4 keys to unlocking the Door of Time: Ocarina of Time, Goron's Ruby, Kokiri Emerald and the Zora Sapphire. And the 4 keys were split amongst the 4 key locations, 3 of which have locked in ties to the Royal Family(being the 4th).
while it makes some sense, the ocarina is MUCH older than ganondorf or the brothers, cause it was made at the same time as the temple of time which has been around for a couple hundred years by the time of OoT and ganondorf is only a couple decades old
If its ancient it could also explain why link's fairy friend knew a song since she doesn't age and she had experience with hearing/using one before, maybe the song experiments could be a reason why the fairy people don't age? Or its just a musical instrument she knows how to play. but either way thats some food for thought if you wanna think about it
If the legends say that an ocarina is needed to access the Master Sword, it has to be ancient. With Sharp and Flat dying only a couple year after Ganondorf was born and conducting study on time manipulation by using ocarina, their theory wouldn't be made into a legend Zelda spoke of. It would seem that Sheikah knew some things about time manipulation and, by extension, teleportation but their technology was lost too time (again). Just music in itself is a powerful tool in OoT and MM, so maybe the brothers got their hands on the Ocarina held by the royal family made by the Sheikah from the time-shift stone and once they pledged their allegiance and the result of their study was the song itself. But that raises a question: was the Sacred Realm complete inaccessible until they rediscovered the song? The spiritual songs are also keys to the Door of Time but without the Song of Time, the doors won't budge. So does it mean that the Composer Brothers can be hold responsible for giving Ganondorf a chance to access the Sacred Realm? In the end Link led him there but was the song never discovered, Ganondorf wouldn't have been able to gain a Triforce of Power. So the easier conclusion is that the Song of Time was a another secret of the Royal family, the brothers learned about it once they started working with them and they wanted to learn more about music manipulation, like speeding up or slowing down time we see in MM, but their knowledge about this was never passed down in the OoT's Hyrule because of Ganondorf (only their Sun Song was left noted on their grave).
I'm not finished watching so you may mention it later, but considering the 3 spiritual stones are of the 3 main races in OoT (excluding Gerudo) the Ocarina in my head is the heirloom passed down the hylian race, through the Royal family
the fact they specifically used ocarinas as the instrument, something we can theoritically say isnt needed due to links form changes in majora's, id say the ocarina itself is much older. though it does fit that ganondorf hearing of their research would spark his interest since they would have to have access to it to do research on it.
I always though that the Ocarina of Time is made of Time Shift Stones crafted by Hylia or a Zelda after Skyward Sword. Or in your case the Sheikah. After the Ocarina was created, Hylia or Zelda blessed the Ocarina with magic and made it a key item to open the Door of Time alongside the Spiritual Stones (which could be essences of the Dragons of Skyward Sword).
'now we know where the master sword came from, it was forged from the goddess sword' Doesn't that just move the goal post? Because now it's all "where did the goddess sword come from?"
Until now I had always believed the ocarina of time was made by the same person who made the goddess harp or at least during the same time but this is a very solid theory and I might just be swayed
im pretty convinced that there are a group of Sheikah scientists like in the Ancient Tech Labs from BotW, and after BotW2 uncovers a bunch of long-dormant ancient stuff, the Sheikah scientists finds some timeshift stone, and use it to try and 'defeat ganon once and for all' by going back in time, and forward in time, spreading their tech and knowledge in bits and pieces all over the timeline and leaving tools for the Hero in any timelines they detect heavy Ganon activity.
Being created by the composer bros seems too short a time frame. It’s more likely it was created by Rauru and the other sages that built the temple of time.
What if it was made by the broken pieces of the time portal thing in skyward sword? It never appears again and the shieka may have broke it, to say, make it portable. Blue is the shieka color so who ever is behind it im sure its them.
Great theory, I agree with you and I love to inclusion of the Poe bro’s flat and sharp. Did you notice a slight resemblance between them and Mario and Luigi?! Bring on the theories!
I think it's more likely to have been built way earlier. If it opens the door in the temple of time, then it would make sense for the ocarina to be created with the temple.
this actually explains why it could open the door of time which was basically made to never open, the sacred stones weren't really keys more like door jams and so if someone opened the door it would immediately close again, at least that is my theory, without the stones in place to hold it open. The song of time just like with broken signs pieces reuniting, returns the door to their original state of open.
I really liked your theory and I’m not sure everyone else planned this out but The ocarina was given to Zelda by link himself when she asked for it. That was the main thing that I wanted to point out but otherwise great content. That actually happens during gameplay the only reason I remembered this fact is because I’m replaying the game right now.
11 months (almost a year) late, guess I better leave my own theory: I think that in the events after SS, The royal family got an ocarina made out of the timeshift stones as an heirloom, years later after the temple of time is constructed, Rauru asks for the Ocarina, putting a certain type of magic on the ocarina of time to help unlock the temple of time's doors, he probably asked for hoping that the ocarina would be knowingly safe in the hands of the royal family, and by the time the alternate version of events happen (thus causing the downfall timeline, after OOT), the magic inside the ocarina wears off, leaving it as another regular ocarina.
This could confirms that seikah really are loruleans that go back in time and travel to hyrule to serve the royale family and prevent the triforce to be destroyed like in lorule did
I would say since the ocarina is a key to the sacred realm it was made around the time Rauru constructed the temple of time. And the reason for it being made was due to the interlopers (twili) trying to invade the sacred realm.
A interesting game that could subvert our expectations Nintendo could do for Legend of Zelda would be a Kotor 2 type of theme with a antagonist that is like Kreia mysterious but wise but also not foolish and sees the hypocrisy of the gods and sees that Link and Zelda are trapped in a endless cycle of reincarnation and death a fate that was imposed upon them without choice. A morale philosophy kind of plot.
You: (starts listing off what the Ocarina of Time was used for) Me, immediately: “and creating time paradoxes, and splitting the timeline... into three pieces...”
maybe the ocarina is more ancien, but it is why the 2 brother was interested in it power, so they study it. and they mades songs with it. and then they wanted to share the power and they made others instruments (those links use in majora's mask) and the ocarina of time was an ancien relic that Impa have to protect in the shek village. and the ocarina is made from those blue time rock ore.
You say that knowing the Master Sword was forged from the Goddess sword doesn't immediately transfer the question to "where did THAT sword come from?!" We aren't exactly closer to understanding the swords actual origin XD
Does anyone else yearn for the return of a musical instrument to the Legend of Zelda series? Its what helped Ocarina of Time stand out so much for me. Its part of what made me want to learn how to play music. I also miss left-handed Link.
I'm in the final stage of BOTW now. My next mission is to defeat Ganon, in some days I'll be able to watch all of your BOTW theory videos without spoiling me lol
I doubt that the Ocarina, used as a sacred seal alongside the Spiritual Stones as the Spiritual Stone of Hyrule used to command the other three, was crafted or even completed in Ganondorf’s lifetime. Even if we allow potentially inhuman longevity to both Ganondorf and the Sheikah, it is said that a male Gerudo is born every 100 years. I highly doubt that something considered so ancient and deeply intertwined with Hyrule’s history is 100 years old or less. Otherwise, yes, makes perfect sense that a Sheikah or group of Sheikah crafted the Ocarina by weaving further magic into a finely crafted Timeshift Stone ocarina. It does seem to be the Sacred Stone of the Hyrulean people, which doubles as an instrument to command the powers of the other stones, the Temple of Time and the Sages’ Temples, and time itself.
Most instruments are made out of metal and wood. Drums sometimes are covered in hide. Ocarina, however, were known to be made out of ceramic and even certain stones, such as soapstone. Modern glass ocarina have been made as well. Crystal for this instrument isn't a stretch.
It is possible Ganon did know about the ocarina because he intended for link to open the door in the temple of time so he can access the triforce. I think he just underestimated the child.
That would also mean that the link who defeated ganon would then have been able to alter events in time and eventually, in defeating ganon and working with the ghosts and such, pass on and help build up a world where sheika tech thrives, thus making the tablet and Link's body being preserved in suspended animation make perfect sense. That very well could be the one and same hero of time from Ocarina, using his ability to reset and manipulate the flow of time to live infinitely and create a more peaceful and lush world like eventually is in BOTW. This is dopeness. :3
Ocarinas are among the oldest instruments in human civilization, dating at least 12,000 in our past. I think the ocarina of time is older than the Sheika time stones, and may date to a time before skyward sword's technology existed
I love how you also cover and comment content on other things about Zelda. I didn't knew the master sword came from the Goddess. So where does Fi fits in the story ?
The composer brothers making the ocarina in modern day does not inherently conflict with its position in ancient myths. Ocarinas in general can be made to manipulate time (according to previously existing knowledge that inspired the composer brothers’ research). So it’s likely the Ocarina of Time is just one of many ocarinas of time, the most recent incarnation made by the composer brothers trying to replicate the more ancient predecessor that was linked to the door of time and referenced in legend. Or, it’s even possible that it’s the same ocarina that was sent back in time to inspire the ancient legends that would eventually inspire its own creation. This would make it a bootstrap paradox of course, but we see from the Song of Storms in OOT that this is not impossible in the Zelda universe.
What's your favorite Zelda instrument?
The Wind Waker
The Zora guitar in Majora's Mask was metal AF.
the flute from spirit tracks
Ocarina of Time
The harp in SS .
The fact that it can transport the user across time implies it could really have been made at any moment
Woah. I didn't consider that.
Exactly my thought as I was going into the video.
But then what would have happened to the previous user that used it?
@@daleyhuard3675 What do you mean? I see no connection between your message and the rest of the thread.
Thread: A time machine could have been made at any point and then travel to this time.
Daley: But what about the previous user?
To answer your question I will refer to The legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. The ocarina is an heirloom. Link acquired it when Impa took Zelda away from Hyrule castle. The previous owners aged and died.
Maybe it made itself rather than it being created by someone and transports itself through time
In relation to the Sheikah-Music connection it's also worth noting that the Goddess Harp in Skyward Sword and the Harp that Sheik/Zelda has in Ocarina of Time are likely the same.
Noah Branston or at least a replica that is held closely by the royal family
Hyrule Historia claimed it was the last remaining time stone, carved into an instrument.
We can probably assume it's of Shiekah origin.
Did you watch the video? He did mention hyrule historian, and the time stones.
"Is the ocarina of legend more ancient than I talked about"
I mean I didn't see anywhere where it says how long ago the composer brothers completed their research and died, so could still be ancient
They had to have completed their research whilst Ganondorf was alive and focused on his goal of taking over Hyrule, so they probably died recently.
@@josephmorse3089 That's right thank you
I like to think the Ocarina is the same one as in Minish Cap, which came before OoT in the timeline.
@@Draezeth Isn't the one in ALttP also blue? Maybe that's where it ends up in the fallen timeline
@@JustINsideGaming Could be!
“takes place in Termina - which is a land not even confirmed to exist”
Wrong, Eiji Aonuma confirmed once that Termina is a “parallel world to Hyrule”.
But that doesn't mean it's a real place in said world. It could be another alternate reality so they both could be true.
@@rebekahheadrick1046, even *if* it's not in the same reality, but in a different universe entirely, it still means it exists because that's going off the assumption that the multiverse theory is true.
@D.C. Canipe good point. But what about that link in Majora's mask is dead theory? It could be real? But as pergitory or something similar but have no other connections to Hyrule.
@D.C. Canipe ok, still new with theories so just throwing my two cents in.
@@rebekahheadrick1046 the theory hold absolutely no ground cause hero of time, for fact, died as an adult.
The editing and effects at the beginning are really good for just a 9 minute video. I appreciate the effort you put into this video
I'm going to have to disagree. The fact that the composer Brothers seem to have died only a few decades before the game at most and Zelda's implication that the Ocarina is passed down the Royal Line don't match up. More likely the composer Brothers were merely researchers into magical music. Likely choosing this instrument because they already knew about the Ocarina. It could have been a sheikah project but it's in game description seems too old.
Also i think the brothers are referring exclusively to the Sun Song. And that song works regardless of which ocarina you use. It is possible that Ganondorf just wanted to know how that song magic worked without the Ocarina of Time. If you can have songs that are magic regardless of the properties of the instrument, you might also be able to open the door of time with some other magical tune. But we won't know cause the brothers went and died.
What about the ocarina in Minish Cap? It doesn't alter time, but it *is* blue, it's obtained in an ancient ruin, and it can summon a bird from anywhere.
Well when your dealing with time, it could've very well been made in the distant future then set adrift in time. The Song of Storms has no origin either. In the same manner we learn it, the Ocarina could have been "passed down" to someone who passed it back onto the same person who gave it effectively creating itself. This is why I hate Time related lore for anything, such a headache.
When you talk a out legend made by a people who apparently dealt in both Prophecy and time fuckery, why not sealing the door of the Temple of Time knowing that the instrument to open it would be created just in time for it to be necessary?
It's An object that can travel freely throughout the timeline. It doesn't matter when it was made, it could be made tomorrow and be ancient today.
Have you noticed that when Sheik teaches the songs to Link, she is playing a harp? Perharps the Goddess Harp from SS?
That means there are several magical instruments connected with the Goddesses and the royal family. Maybe there was a concert at the beginning of Time and they needed the instruments xD
I feel the composer brothers just figured out how to do additional things with the ocarina. If it's made from time stones, which we don't really see exist anywhere but in ANCIENT times, it's quite possible this artifact is much much older than we think.
I would agree. It also has the ability to control time itself, which makes the possibilities endless honestly. Who is to say the minish cap link isn't holding the ocarina of time for example. Maybe this incarnation of link is holding the ocarina of time, and just doesn't realize it, as the knowledge of the instrument and its name and its powers were lost to legends of history. I mean, the graphic used for the ocarina in that game looks suspiciously similar to the ocarina of time in ocarina of time. It is interesting to ponder a parallel in history to where the ocarina of times powers aren't mentioned because they were lost or changed. You do learn a single song in minish cap, and it is given to you by a tribe calling themselves the tribe of winds. It seems to summon winds and warp you to various locations across the map. Perhaps this is one of the oldest songs to exist for the ocarina of time, and heck maybe the ocarina of time has the ability to bend wind also. Maybe some dude found the ocarina and found a special song that had this effect, and he called it the ocarina of winds in honor, as well as creating the tribe of winds in it's name. It's all just a bunch of legends thrown around. The games are all truly works of art, in that there are so many different ways to interpret them all. Also, if it is made from timeshift stones, can you hit the ocarina to turn it off and on? I mean, in skyward sword, that is the main method of turning the stones timeshifting properties off and on again. I mean, maybe the ocarina of time can be turned off and on, but that part of its history was lost or warped or changed or whatever by the time the era of the ocarina of time game came out. It could have possibly been used in ancient times as a way of preventing the ocarina of time getting into gannondorfs hands for example. I mean, a functional ocarina of time in gannondorfs hands spells dooms day for all zelda timelines to be honest with you, specially if he figures out how to use it. Or just simply being prevented from getting in evildoers hands in general. Maybe if it is turned off, you would play a song, but no effect would come from it, rendering it useless. If this is true, the ocarina of time is clearly fully functional in the era of the ocarina of time game. Also, i just thought of this, but assuming the turning the ocarina of time off and on thing is true, it is very possible certain eras in history found this ocarina, and did not have any knowledge of what it did, and maybe had certain ancient writings of songs for it that could be used to manipulate the world as we know it, but tried to play it, and discovered it did nothing. Likely without the knowledge of turning it off and on, this era would have no use for it, and would think and feel that it's ancient power was lost or got destroyed somehow. People have this radical theory about breath of the wild being a convergence timeline. How did the timelines converge then? I truly feel the ocarina of time is going to reveal itself possibly in the breath of the wild sequel. It would make sense, assuming the timeline convergence theory is true, that the ocarina of time was played as the bridge to converging the timelines together again. That is just me though. There are so many possibilities that it is truly mindblowing. I am just curious what else the ocarina of time can do.
But if the ocarina was used as the key to the door of time, wouldn't it date back to the same time as the temple of time?
It‘s creepy how ever present the Sheikah are, their influence heavily impacts not only almost every single Zelda title but also the lore in between.
I think the ocarina of time dates back to the time when the ancient sages sealed the gate to the sacred realm, which was centuries ago. It was created by the sages with the song of time to serve as one of the keys to open the door of time and since became the secret treasure of the royal family. That's what I used to think.
Raaru was probably the one who oversaw its creation along with the others
Didn't Zelda tell link at the beggining of MM that the ocarina was directly related to the time godess?
So Hilya
And the blood of the Goddess Hylia flows through the Royal Family.
We've come full circle.
I think the goddess of time is actually Nayru isn’t it?
@@Yooyooyaya No Nayru is the Goddess of Wisdom, the other two are Power and Courage.
Hylia is the Goddess of the Hylian people in particular, who sacrificed herself to be reincarnated as the Skyward Sword Zelda. Hylia has been associated with Dominion over Time in numerous Zelda games.
khveteran013 I know that but isn’t it stated in MM that Nayru is the time goddess?
You know when a Mama Ocarina and a Daddy Ocarina love each other very much...
Haha! Smartass! You’re funny!😂😎
I remember coming to this conclusion when I first completed Skyward Sword. It also makes sense as to why the time stones in Ocarina of Time share have that blue color. I also had this theory that the Temple of Time was made of Time Shift stones along with the Master Sword as we see in Twilight Princess and Ocarina of Time the Master Sword being used to turn back or manipulate time. Twilight Princess when you return the Temple of Time to it's former state when you put the Master Sword back in the pedestal.
1:30 you know at the legend of Zelda: Ocarina of time manga by Akira Himekawa it says that when Ganondorf chased Zelda, he took Link's fairy ocarina mistaking it with the ocarina of Time, because he saw Zelda throwing it behind Link, where the moat is located.
@James Gravil ha ha! Very funny.
@James Gravil IIRC, Saria comments that your voice sounds different if you 'call' her between acquiring the OoT and acquiring the Master Sword.
Yknow I never see people talk about the fact that the developers chose such an obscure type of instrument for a Zelda game. Like I magic conducting wand or a harp are still old-timey but I nor anyone I’ve ever met had ever heard of an ocarina aside from this game and I LOVE that
The ocarina of time was made by Tingle. C'mon, it's so obvious.
How?!
All powered by tingle,
But who made Tingle?
Tingle is in many games- he’s immortal. He’s one of the Golden Goddesses. Farore (forgive me if I spelled her name wrong). That’s how he creates all these things
Austin ,, you find out his dad is the big dude at the boat ride shop in Majora mask.
I honestly like to believe that Nayru created the the Ocarina of Time. After all it wouldn’t be the first time Nayru both as a name and a character were used in direct correlation to time.
Me: *sees the title*
Also me: Nintendo *proceeds to die out of laughing at my stupid joke*
J Herrington -reset console
Woooow!!!! I had no clue you could talk to the Composer Brothers!! WHAT?! This just blew my mind!!! This may be a theory but this feels factual now. XD Excellent video MNB!
If I recall right...One brother you meet in OoT and the second brother is located in MM?
@@WhitneyCutthroat Nah they're both in OoT and MM. They're both located in Kakariko Graveyard in OoT and then in MM, Sharp is in the Final Day Ikana Graveyard and Flat is at the source of Ikana River.
Hi Luke
Yeah, I did'nt know that either! Next time I play the game, I'm gonna talk with the Poes.
“Hope you’re having a fantastic kickoff to 2020” - MNB 2020. Famous last words huh?
That’s what I was thinking of
I'm a little surprised that you didn't mention the Ocarina of Wind, an item from Minish Cap (The earliest game in the timeline besides Skyward Sword, hint hint) which in appearance is IDENTICAL to the Ocarina of Time. Maybe legends or pictures of that was what inspired the Composer bros to make their timeshift tool an Ocarina as opposed to some other instrument.
This! Exactly this!
I propose that this is the ocarina of time, and minish cap link just doesn't know it. legends often get warped twisted and retold over the years, and often times, parts of history are also lost. We really don't know when the ocarina of time was made exactly, but it does have the ability to control time, which just opens infinite possibilites really. Maybe this era in the minish cap, the history regarding the ocarinas ability to control and warp time was lost, and that it was just some ocarina that some dude found, that seemed to have a very peculiar yet strange effect when he played that song on the ocarina. It summoned a windy thingy and a bird and warped him across the map, thus having this dude calling it the ocarina of winds, and with that, the ancient wind tribe followed suit as well, becoming known as the tribe of winds. Like i said, it is a stretch, but the skyward sword era thrived on a bird like status, flying all around as well. Maybe when link received the ocarina in minish cap also, all of the ocarina of times history was lost, and no one really knew the power it possesed, if any at all. It seemed to respond to the windy song that summoned a bird to warp you to places though. We also don't know all of the ocarina of times properties either. It does however have the main ability to control time, as hinted at by the game of the same name. Another question i ponder is that the ocarina of time lines up suspiciously with the time shift stones in skyward sword. You can hit those stones to turn them on and off. Hitting them causes the finite time past thing to open, and hitting them again closes it, causing it to shift the finite space back to the present time. My question is, could the same thing be done to the ocarina of time, hitting it to turn it off and on again? I feel the ocarina of time itself is a more portable version of the timeshift stones themselves, magically crafted to be attuned to different specially crafted songs by the royal composers of hyrules royal family themselves. Each song when played is designed to do a different thing. Just to name a few, we have power over storms, power over time, power over night and day, the ability to summon horses at your beckoned call, the ability to warp you to different locations on the map. If the hitting the ocarina of time to turn it off and on is true, very likely it was lost to history, and that nature of the ocarinas power was lost by the time the ocarina of time game came out. It could have been a counter measure to prevent evil from possesing its full power. Possibly, if it was turned off, you could play a song on it, but it would have had no effect. In minish cap, maybe the windy bird song you play is perhaps one of the oldest song properties played on the ocarina of time, and had the ability to control wind at some point. Who the heck knows. There is a very popular theory regarding breath of the wild being a convergence timeline. How exactly did it converge? I feel the ocarina of time may have had something to do with it. I mean, the damn thing has the ability to control time itself at will, so maybe it was used in a certain way, converging the timelines back together.
The OoT has to be far older than that considering that the temple of time protects the entrance to the sacred realm, and the pedestal of the master sword which can only be drawn by the chosen hero.
Also the spiritual stone of water has to have been around at least a few generations seeing as it's become a tradition amongst Zora royal family to gift the stone to the person they will marry as a proposal ritual.
That's actually a super compelling argument. The information from Sharp and Flat really drives the idea home.
Absolutely amazing analysis, even more-so than usual, Mask! I don't reckon I've ever heard anyone so much as speculate on this topic, much less pull it all together in a cohesive exposition; in the words of Falco, "You're gettin' better, Fox!"
3:25 to receive information from the legend of Zelda, you can go to Google search, you can find thru Wikipedia, Zeldapedia, or Zelda Wiki. They also have information from the books you mentioned.
The purpose of the ocarina makes sense within this theory. Supposing that the Hyrule Civil War is the war mentioned in TP (where everyone became so crazy in entering to the sacred realm) and the war that made the hero of time orphan. Makes sense that the royal family asked the sheikah a way to protect the entrance to the sacred realm. Not only by the sacred stones but also with an instrument that, in case some more Interlopers got inside the realm, had time travel properties to revert that.
I like this theory. It makes sense
Woah!
5:09-5:11
These little robot guys are like the Stationary Guardian Turrets/Sentries from BotW.
I would think that its more ancient than what you propose here. When Zelda speaks of the Ocarina, the instrument its already a Legendary Instrument and that kind of implies that its been around for a decent amount of time at least. If the composer brothers were the ones that made the ocarina, it would have been a recent instrument.
I always assumed that all of the unique and powerful weapons in Zelda were created by the goddesses or the sheika x.x;
what about the tingle tuner? The best item in the whole series? Obviously not the work of such lowly beings like din, nayru, farore, hylia, or even those crude sheikah. no, only a man destined for greatness could've crafted such a wondrous item. A legendary hero, clad in green. THE ONE, THE ONLY, TIIIIIIINGLE.
Wow, amazing theory! I am definitely convinced. I realize I have only ever talked to the brother on the right side, and not the left. Great video Bandit!
Convinced! Skyward sword did a great job of explaining it with the time stones, but the connection your drawn between the time stones and the composer brothers is what drove your theory home.
Going back through some old videos. I do like this theory. I've often felt that the instrument was much older, but that's probably my own narrative taste. Whenever I see/saw Ocarinas in other games, I always question if there is a connection.
I think Zelda from Skyward Sword made the Ocarina of Time, composed the Song of Time, and used them to permanently rejuvenate parts of Lanayru, turning the Sand Sea into Lake Hylia.
Zelda-hey link catch
Link:misses
Zelda-😧aw crap he missed.
Dennis Johnson oof
ZeldaBoss -Zelda-can you do anything right
Link-yahhhhhhhh
Zelda- the hell😒😠
Rauru created the door of time, therefore Rauru created the Ocarina of time which is needed to open it.
Darn it I'm not early, better play the song of time again
That works
Floopy Doof -Again? Just where and when did u come from time traveler!! I demand you tell me at once
Yay I'm early also you are such a big brain man
Makes complete sense
"I hope you're all having a fantastic kickoff to 2020" - (June 2020 - ooh we definitely are!!....)
Note also that the Master Sword is seemingly made from the same material as the Ocarina of Time, and has some limited control over time as well.
Well done! I think is your theory is correct. When you put all the puzzle pieces together, the mystery fit!
5:50 “aaaaahhhhhhh”
lolsomebody -
Me-Hyrule going to have machine in the future
Caperter-5:50 ahahahahahaha
Your research is fantastic! The actual words from Sharp and Flatt are extremely convincing! I also suspected the timeshift stones, but I personally have a different theory. All due respect, if the Composer brothers were born a long time ago, ( a really long time ago) then they may not have lived in the same century as Ganondorf! Now there's no actual dated timeline, so at this point it's tricky. Looking at the Lanyru Facility, I'd agree that the Sheikah were experimenting with time travel and that their research finally led to Ocarina. I think that the Ancient Sages, who were probably Sheikah and who built the temple of time to protect the Master'sword after mankind repopulated the earth, also created the Ocarina. One way or another, I really enjoyed your video, MaskedNintendoBandit.
This should be a series, talking about all the items
The brothers were ancient serveants of the Royal Family so the Ganodorf that they meet probably was another generation before that, and the instrument was passed on from generations among the Sheika, as you said, an ancient artifact.
It's myamoto, he used the portal to this world's sacred realm found in Nintendo HQ to transport himself to right after the era of the sky to create it out of the last timeshift stone
Would to add something here. I personally think that the sage ryanu also had a hand in it. Possibly providing the necessary time shift pieces for it given that he built the temple of time to protect the scared realm in the first place.
Well done. A compelling theory. It's game theories like these that I wish the creators would pay attention to and adopt or at least offer a clear alternative.
Wait a second, if the Flatt brothers were targeted by Ganondorf that means they were killed recently!
Thing is, the Ocarina of Time is said to be one of 4 keys to unlocking the Door of Time: Ocarina of Time, Goron's Ruby, Kokiri Emerald and the Zora Sapphire. And the 4 keys were split amongst the 4 key locations, 3 of which have locked in ties to the Royal Family(being the 4th).
I love this theory! It makes a lot of sense. Even though it might not be canon, I'm calling it canon in my mind anyway.
while it makes some sense, the ocarina is MUCH older than ganondorf or the brothers, cause it was made at the same time as the temple of time which has been around for a couple hundred years by the time of OoT and ganondorf is only a couple decades old
I thought this was going to be a clickbait video... but I was pleasantly surprised! AWESOME job!
If its ancient it could also explain why link's fairy friend knew a song since she doesn't age and she had experience with hearing/using one before, maybe the song experiments could be a reason why the fairy people don't age? Or its just a musical instrument she knows how to play. but either way thats some food for thought if you wanna think about it
If the legends say that an ocarina is needed to access the Master Sword, it has to be ancient.
With Sharp and Flat dying only a couple year after Ganondorf was born and conducting study on time manipulation by using ocarina, their theory wouldn't be made into a legend Zelda spoke of.
It would seem that Sheikah knew some things about time manipulation and, by extension, teleportation but their technology was lost too time (again).
Just music in itself is a powerful tool in OoT and MM, so maybe the brothers got their hands on the Ocarina held by the royal family made by the Sheikah from the time-shift stone and once they pledged their allegiance and the result of their study was the song itself.
But that raises a question: was the Sacred Realm complete inaccessible until they rediscovered the song? The spiritual songs are also keys to the Door of Time but without the Song of Time, the doors won't budge. So does it mean that the Composer Brothers can be hold responsible for giving Ganondorf a chance to access the Sacred Realm? In the end Link led him there but was the song never discovered, Ganondorf wouldn't have been able to gain a Triforce of Power.
So the easier conclusion is that the Song of Time was a another secret of the Royal family, the brothers learned about it once they started working with them and they wanted to learn more about music manipulation, like speeding up or slowing down time we see in MM, but their knowledge about this was never passed down in the OoT's Hyrule because of Ganondorf (only their Sun Song was left noted on their grave).
I'm not finished watching so you may mention it later, but considering the 3 spiritual stones are of the 3 main races in OoT (excluding Gerudo) the Ocarina in my head is the heirloom passed down the hylian race, through the Royal family
the fact they specifically used ocarinas as the instrument, something we can theoritically say isnt needed due to links form changes in majora's, id say the ocarina itself is much older. though it does fit that ganondorf hearing of their research would spark his interest since they would have to have access to it to do research on it.
I always though that the Ocarina of Time is made of Time Shift Stones crafted by Hylia or a Zelda after Skyward Sword. Or in your case the Sheikah.
After the Ocarina was created, Hylia or Zelda blessed the Ocarina with magic and made it a key item to open the Door of Time alongside the Spiritual Stones (which could be essences of the Dragons of Skyward Sword).
'now we know where the master sword came from, it was forged from the goddess sword'
Doesn't that just move the goal post? Because now it's all "where did the goddess sword come from?"
It was made by the Goddess Hylia.
@@Rune_Scholar but didn't the entire universe come from the trinity
Lol When he Said in 1:20 "Shocking I know" Kind of Reminds me Revali "Impressive I know"
Until now I had always believed the ocarina of time was made by the same person who made the goddess harp or at least during the same time but this is a very solid theory and I might just be swayed
im pretty convinced that there are a group of Sheikah scientists like in the Ancient Tech Labs from BotW, and after BotW2 uncovers a bunch of long-dormant ancient stuff, the Sheikah scientists finds some timeshift stone, and use it to try and 'defeat ganon once and for all' by going back in time, and forward in time, spreading their tech and knowledge in bits and pieces all over the timeline and leaving tools for the Hero in any timelines they detect heavy Ganon activity.
"An ancient people group" idk why that made me laugh lol
Being created by the composer bros seems too short a time frame.
It’s more likely it was created by Rauru and the other sages that built the temple of time.
What if it was made by the broken pieces of the time portal thing in skyward sword? It never appears again and the shieka may have broke it, to say, make it portable. Blue is the shieka color so who ever is behind it im sure its them.
Great theory, I agree with you and I love to inclusion of the Poe bro’s flat and sharp. Did you notice a slight resemblance between them and Mario and Luigi?! Bring on the theories!
Really cool video 👌
I think it's more likely to have been built way earlier. If it opens the door in the temple of time, then it would make sense for the ocarina to be created with the temple.
this actually explains why it could open the door of time which was basically made to never open, the sacred stones weren't really keys more like door jams and so if someone opened the door it would immediately close again, at least that is my theory, without the stones in place to hold it open. The song of time just like with broken signs pieces reuniting, returns the door to their original state of open.
Me: Oh, a new ocarina
MaskedNintendoBandit: BUT WHYYY???
I really liked your theory and I’m not sure everyone else planned this out but The ocarina was given to Zelda by link himself when she asked for it. That was the main thing that I wanted to point out but otherwise great content. That actually happens during gameplay the only reason I remembered this fact is because I’m replaying the game right now.
11 months (almost a year) late, guess I better leave my own theory:
I think that in the events after SS, The royal family got an ocarina made out of the timeshift stones as an heirloom, years later after the temple of time is constructed, Rauru asks for the Ocarina, putting a certain type of magic on the ocarina of time to help unlock the temple of time's doors, he probably asked for hoping that the ocarina would be knowingly safe in the hands of the royal family, and by the time the alternate version of events happen (thus causing the downfall timeline, after OOT), the magic inside the ocarina wears off, leaving it as another regular ocarina.
This could confirms that seikah really are loruleans that go back in time and travel to hyrule to serve the royale family and prevent the triforce to be destroyed like in lorule did
I would say since the ocarina is a key to the sacred realm it was made around the time Rauru constructed the temple of time. And the reason for it being made was due to the interlopers (twili) trying to invade the sacred realm.
A interesting game that could subvert our expectations Nintendo could do for Legend of Zelda would be a Kotor 2 type of theme with a antagonist that is like Kreia mysterious but wise but also not foolish and sees the hypocrisy of the gods and sees that Link and Zelda are trapped in a endless cycle of reincarnation and death a fate that was imposed upon them without choice.
A morale philosophy kind of plot.
You: (starts listing off what the Ocarina of Time was used for)
Me, immediately: “and creating time paradoxes, and splitting the timeline... into three pieces...”
Great video!
maybe the ocarina is more ancien, but it is why the 2 brother was interested in it power, so they study it. and they mades songs with it. and then they wanted to share the power and they made others instruments (those links use in majora's mask) and the ocarina of time was an ancien relic that Impa have to protect in the shek village. and the ocarina is made from those blue time rock ore.
You say that knowing the Master Sword was forged from the Goddess sword doesn't immediately transfer the question to "where did THAT sword come from?!" We aren't exactly closer to understanding the swords actual origin XD
Does anyone else yearn for the return of a musical instrument to the Legend of Zelda series? Its what helped Ocarina of Time stand out so much for me. Its part of what made me want to learn how to play music. I also miss left-handed Link.
It was clearly Tingle duh, Tingle is the answer to ALL ZELDA THEORIES 👀😤
Hyrule Gamer hi
I'm in the final stage of BOTW now. My next mission is to defeat Ganon, in some days I'll be able to watch all of your BOTW theory videos without spoiling me lol
That intro was 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
I doubt that the Ocarina, used as a sacred seal alongside the Spiritual Stones as the Spiritual Stone of Hyrule used to command the other three, was crafted or even completed in Ganondorf’s lifetime. Even if we allow potentially inhuman longevity to both Ganondorf and the Sheikah, it is said that a male Gerudo is born every 100 years. I highly doubt that something considered so ancient and deeply intertwined with Hyrule’s history is 100 years old or less.
Otherwise, yes, makes perfect sense that a Sheikah or group of Sheikah crafted the Ocarina by weaving further magic into a finely crafted Timeshift Stone ocarina. It does seem to be the Sacred Stone of the Hyrulean people, which doubles as an instrument to command the powers of the other stones, the Temple of Time and the Sages’ Temples, and time itself.
I thought, but why an ocarina over any other instrument? Then I considered the shape of the time stones and it made sense.
Most instruments are made out of metal and wood. Drums sometimes are covered in hide. Ocarina, however, were known to be made out of ceramic and even certain stones, such as soapstone. Modern glass ocarina have been made as well. Crystal for this instrument isn't a stretch.
It is possible Ganon did know about the ocarina because he intended for link to open the door in the temple of time so he can access the triforce. I think he just underestimated the child.
That would also mean that the link who defeated ganon would then have been able to alter events in time and eventually, in defeating ganon and working with the ghosts and such, pass on and help build up a world where sheika tech thrives, thus making the tablet and Link's body being preserved in suspended animation make perfect sense.
That very well could be the one and same hero of time from Ocarina, using his ability to reset and manipulate the flow of time to live infinitely and create a more peaceful and lush world like eventually is in BOTW.
This is dopeness. :3
The fact that it is a time travel device means that it could have been made at any point in time.
0:50 on that NOTE was that a unintentional pun
Ocarinas are among the oldest instruments in human civilization, dating at least 12,000 in our past.
I think the ocarina of time is older than the Sheika time stones, and may date to a time before skyward sword's technology existed
Who created the ocarina of time
Me:Nintendo?
I'm gunna put my money on your prediction.
I could watch his videos for hours
Great theory! I never really considered where it came from so as far as I’m concerned this was a good theory for me!
I love how you also cover and comment content on other things about Zelda. I didn't knew the master sword came from the Goddess. So where does Fi fits in the story ?
The composer brothers making the ocarina in modern day does not inherently conflict with its position in ancient myths. Ocarinas in general can be made to manipulate time (according to previously existing knowledge that inspired the composer brothers’ research). So it’s likely the Ocarina of Time is just one of many ocarinas of time, the most recent incarnation made by the composer brothers trying to replicate the more ancient predecessor that was linked to the door of time and referenced in legend. Or, it’s even possible that it’s the same ocarina that was sent back in time to inspire the ancient legends that would eventually inspire its own creation. This would make it a bootstrap paradox of course, but we see from the Song of Storms in OOT that this is not impossible in the Zelda universe.
Those beginning effects though
2:02 "sealed his own fate"
Canonical fate with timeline split: well yes, but actually no
I liked it. Thank you for showing me the composers.