Sir Jadunath Sarkar: An Unusual Historian | Swapan Dasgupta | Dr T.C.A. Raghavan | DU Lit. Fest

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  • @Seriouslyfunny1
    @Seriouslyfunny1 5 месяцев назад +62

    I have read his books. Specially the books on rajputana fights against Mughals.
    Guys, if you want to learn all those battles and kings who successfully repelled Mughals but are not mentioned by NCERT and leftists, DEFINITELY read Jadunath Sarkar. His books are available online for free.

    • @hungrybeastt
      @hungrybeastt 4 месяца назад

      But Raghavan said Sarkar was not happy to see the Mughal era ending, what's the context here, if you know!

    • @Seriouslyfunny1
      @Seriouslyfunny1 4 месяца назад +6

      @@hungrybeastt I have no idea about that. As far as the books are concerned, they are highly researched and contain an elaborate documentation along with citations.
      I have no idea about his ideological leanings though.

  • @chandragawri8848
    @chandragawri8848 4 месяца назад

    Life &Letters of Sir Jadunath Sarkar Edited by Dr Hari Ram Gupta MA ( History)PhD,D.Litt .Preface by Dr Hari Ram Gupa(Late) Hoshiarpur,10May,1957
    Gives a first hand account.Dr Gupta had stayed at Sarkar's Residence .Interaction with leading historians in life of Sir Sarkar are narated .It truely brings out character of Sir Sirkar .

  • @metaphoric-j1c
    @metaphoric-j1c 4 месяца назад

    Yes, he brought AURANGZEB back😊

  • @drmpsinha6461
    @drmpsinha6461 4 месяца назад +21

    Sir Jadunath Sarkar obtained 720 out of 800 . 90%. In MA English ! Fabulous !
    He was followed by Rajendra Lal Mitra. Then came the trio : Majumdar, Roychowdhury and Datta.
    My knowledge of Indian history is based on the trio's book : Advanced History of India.

    • @anilsinha4968
      @anilsinha4968 4 месяца назад +1

      I have read Advanced History of India by Majumder, Roychowdhury and Datta. It came as a surprise to me in 1983, when I came to Delhi. At D.U to my knowledge not many were aware of these authors. They read Romila Thapar and used it as a text book for the U.P.S.C exam.

    • @chandragawri8848
      @chandragawri8848 4 месяца назад

      To know Sir Jadunath Sarkar ,"Life &Letters of Sir Jadunath Sarkar ,Edited by Dr.Hari Ram Gupta MA First (History)P,D.Litt.
      Preface by Dr Hari Ram Gupta ,Hoshiarpur ,10May,1957

    • @sachinkhale7513
      @sachinkhale7513 3 месяца назад

      Sir, find some time to read Shri. W.C.Bendre also an eminent historian of the British period who did extensive research on the Marathas and Mughals.

  • @aniruddhachakrabarti6497
    @aniruddhachakrabarti6497 5 месяцев назад +27

    the most revered Historians of Bharatvarsa ie INDIA were Sir Jadunath Sarkar and Dr Ramesh Chandra Mazumdar ..others are only following their steps..

    • @patnaikt
      @patnaikt 3 месяца назад

      Other Commies and Muslims are distorians.

    • @Raut-warrior
      @Raut-warrior 2 месяца назад

      @@aniruddhachakrabarti6497 Wrong
      GS Sardesai
      Rajwade
      Shejwalkar
      Mehendale
      Purandare
      Uday Kulkarni
      Setu Madhavrao Pagdi
      Bendre
      Ninad Bedekar
      These were/are also great

  • @rajibkumarsingh8085
    @rajibkumarsingh8085 5 месяцев назад +24

    Sir Jadunath Sarkar was not only a historian, but a great Historiographer. He is rightly regarded as "Edward Gibbon" of South Asia.

  • @manasbanerjee259
    @manasbanerjee259 5 месяцев назад +56

    Jadunath Sarkar is an unparrelled historian who was pushed back to pave way to propaandist historians

    • @yj9032
      @yj9032 5 месяцев назад

      He himself was a nationalist (biased towards Hindus) propagandist. He was hardly professional.

    • @vinod.19
      @vinod.19 5 месяцев назад +1

      Distorians would be apt

    • @Raut-warrior
      @Raut-warrior 2 месяца назад +1

      But he did a bad job when it came to Maratha history

    • @vinod.19
      @vinod.19 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Raut-warrior bro every one historian can't excel in every domain. If you want maratha history, I would recommend GS Sardesai and Uday Kulkarni.

    • @Raut-warrior
      @Raut-warrior 2 месяца назад +1

      @@vinod.19 also Mehendale, Bendre, Setu Madhavrao Pagdi, Rajwade, Shejwalkar, GH Khare, Ranade

  • @actioergosum5193
    @actioergosum5193 5 месяцев назад +18

    The intellectual honesty and civility manifest in this conversation bears a stark contrast to the current zeitgeist in India. A breath of fresh air!

  • @HimashuSharma-dk4pc
    @HimashuSharma-dk4pc 4 месяца назад +4

    अगर हिंदी में साक्षात्कार देते तो कितना अच्छा रहता। जिससे मेरे इतिहास के ज्ञान में वृद्धि हो सके।

  • @ArijitDey-k1m
    @ArijitDey-k1m 4 месяца назад +5

    Not unusual...but a true commentator of the actual historical facts and figs.
    Sir Jadu Nath Sarkar and RC Mazumder are true historians

  • @vinaygupta5234
    @vinaygupta5234 5 месяцев назад +10

    Manucci wrote a first hand account of Mughal courts during Shahjahan and Aurangzeb era ! He spent his life in India and JN Sarkar referred to him for his own accounts of Aurangzeb !!!!

    • @kmrao06
      @kmrao06 5 месяцев назад +2

      Nothing wrong ! The important point is whether the author acknowledged and gave reference to the works of his predecessor from whom he was quoting.

  • @sugatabose3691
    @sugatabose3691 5 месяцев назад +5

    JADUNATH and not JAADUNATH. JADU as in MADHU.

  • @Loksog47
    @Loksog47 5 месяцев назад +8

    Nice discussion, quite objectively stated. I enjoyed it immensely.

  • @tsParamesh
    @tsParamesh 4 месяца назад +2

    Sir tukde gangsters self styled historians like romilla tapur, urfan habib(jihadi writer) etc should learn from Sir Jadunath sarkar as to how to write truthful history and basic human behavior from him and his books on history. 😅

  • @hemantsantVadodara
    @hemantsantVadodara 5 месяцев назад +4

    Compare to Savarkars Bhartiya Itihasa Che Saha Soneri Pane ..or work of BGTilak or Sardesai ..

  • @sugatabose3691
    @sugatabose3691 3 месяца назад +1

    First rectify your pronunciation of 'Jadunath'. It is not 'Jādunath' as you say it.

  • @bapu8984
    @bapu8984 5 месяцев назад +3

    Jadunath Sarkar sir ❤🎉😊

  • @ivarhakuse8572
    @ivarhakuse8572 5 месяцев назад +5

    One was Sir J.N. Sarkar. The other was K.C? Majumdar

    • @statickk14
      @statickk14 5 месяцев назад +6

      Ramesh Chandra Majumdar, two great historians erased by the left

    • @amartyachakraborty6863
      @amartyachakraborty6863 5 месяцев назад +4

      Not exactly erased, because some of the leftist historians do admire the works of nationalist historians like R. C. Majumder and Jadunath Sarkar. Like Swapan Dasgupta said that Dipesh Chakrabarty, who is a subaltern historian has written a great book on Jadunath Sarkar. Even a hard-core Marxist historian like Irfan Habib often mentions the names of the historians like R. C. Majumder, Jadunath Sarkar, and others of that era with great respect. So, I don't think that all the leftist historians have questioned their scholarship or tried to disregard their works.

    • @statickk14
      @statickk14 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@amartyachakraborty6863সহমত পোষণ করছি

    • @ivarhakuse8572
      @ivarhakuse8572 5 месяцев назад

      @statickk14 can't read Bengali and no translate function I'm afraid!

  • @abhijitbais2460
    @abhijitbais2460 4 месяца назад +3

    Bharat Mata ki Jai

  • @desiputtar89
    @desiputtar89 5 месяцев назад +6

    हमें अपनी वार्ता हिन्दी में करनी चाहिए अंग्रेज़ी के बजाए जब हम आपस में बात कर रहे होते हैं।

    • @saibalbh31
      @saibalbh31 5 месяцев назад

      Hindi is not a medium of conversation for many indians .

  • @muthukumarchandrasekharan2485
    @muthukumarchandrasekharan2485 5 месяцев назад +3

    Outstanding interface. Great to listen.

    • @jayashriravindra2931
      @jayashriravindra2931 4 месяца назад

      A great discussion by T CA.what he has spoken about history writing with just facts as they existed and evidence corroborated with sources available is TRUE history

  • @nagendravarma7736
    @nagendravarma7736 5 месяцев назад +5

    Sir Jadunath Sarkaar s work stand apart during his contemporary times. His style and competence was great. It's a pleasure to go through his works both for plain readers and and history readers.

  • @akshaysaraswat2421
    @akshaysaraswat2421 3 месяца назад

    Mr TCA Raghavan seems like a secularist. His defense of Mughals and vilification of the Marathas in this talk was quite disappointing

  • @psuyog
    @psuyog 4 месяца назад

    Wtf are they discussing? do they even know, vast part of MP belongs to Maharashtra? Soldiers of Chhatrpati are called Mawala? 12 Mawal is the region were maratha empire started?

  • @KrishiMandirOrganics
    @KrishiMandirOrganics 4 месяца назад

    The way historians are free to interpret what they read from bakhars badshahnamas etc
    And if every era will have its own historians with their interpretation
    Then we too have our present day interpretation
    That
    No 1) Shivaji was for Hindupadpadshahi
    No 2) Only for the vassal Rajput kings of Mughals ,
    Marathas were aliens .
    For that matter any king even a neighbouring one is an alien .
    The difference between Islamic invaders who became badshahs
    And Hindu kings
    was the sole desire of Islamists for spreading Islam thus the mass conversion & killings of civilians .
    ( Somnath temple plunder and mass murder of Brahmins and civilians by Gazni was
    Sole desire of spreading Islam along with loot
    Else why did he always destroy the temple everytime he attacked .)
    So forget the baloney of historians and remember who you are dealing with . No Muslim king was wo a burning desire to spread Islam
    Hindu kings fought with each other for land ofcourse or power not to destroy the temples and culture .

  • @niveditadas6506
    @niveditadas6506 5 месяцев назад +6

    The biggest drawback of Sir Jadunath Sarkar is that he did not touch the opium trade of Mughal India and how Aurangzeb pushed back opium merchants of the East India Company, particularly Childe's War.

    • @adityabanerjee7145
      @adityabanerjee7145 4 месяца назад

      Opium cannot save Aurangzeb

    • @pagan-540
      @pagan-540 4 месяца назад

      Aurangjeb did no such thing. Please recheck the source.

    • @niveditadas6506
      @niveditadas6506 4 месяца назад +1

      @@pagan-540 Read Irfan Habib. Habib began life as a good historian before becoming what he is today. And some articles published by the Indian History Congress by Sushil Chaudhury, B Gupta.Aurangzeb sending Murshid Quli Khan was to curb the opium trade in Bengal and take stern measures against the English East Indian Companies.Read them. In fact that is why I dislike Sir Jadunath Sarkar. He does not mention the only one good thing that Aurangzeb did. The British did not give a Knighthood for free! He kept quiet over the opium issue!

    • @pagan-540
      @pagan-540 4 месяца назад +1

      @@niveditadas6506 Thanks. I will try to get these. It has to be Habib and one other, minimum.

    • @niveditadas6506
      @niveditadas6506 4 месяца назад +1

      @@pagan-540 Shushil Chaudhury,.B. Gupta give you the political narrative, while Habib gives you the economic narrative of how the cash nexus of Mughal India was not permitted to grow.

  • @rajlaha1758
    @rajlaha1758 Месяц назад

    Kindly mention some books of Jadunath Sarkar

  • @akhileshwarjha1476
    @akhileshwarjha1476 5 месяцев назад +2

    Good you wrote about Jadunath Sarcar

  • @daanishbehl5971
    @daanishbehl5971 5 месяцев назад +3

    great discussion

  • @tlaloc-rh9sm
    @tlaloc-rh9sm 4 месяца назад

    Youbhave to be unusual among all this fake history

  • @chandragawri8848
    @chandragawri8848 4 месяца назад

    Sir Jadunath Sarkar CIE (10December 1870-19 May 1958)was a prominent Indian Bengali historian.He was honoured by British with a Companion of the Order of the Indian Empire CIE and knighted in 1929Birthday Honours list.He was invested with his Knighthood at Simla by the acting Viceroy,Lord Goschen,on 22nd August,1929.

  • @niladribanerjee2821
    @niladribanerjee2821 4 месяца назад

    I dont know about NCERT under congress but guys I studied my school book history under left front rigime in Bengal. And I can assure you that there were many quotes of RC Majumdar and JN sarkar on many Indian historical events as well as Romila thapar. Im not a leftist but I can say they didn't remove these people from school books atleast in Bengal.

  • @akhileshwarjha1476
    @akhileshwarjha1476 5 месяцев назад +2

    Interesting indeed,

  • @dipakraval5722
    @dipakraval5722 3 месяца назад

    Is this in India? if so why is it presented in English?

  • @TheHinduTalksbyAtul
    @TheHinduTalksbyAtul 2 месяца назад

    Respect Hain Aapko Bhai

  • @abhijitbais2460
    @abhijitbais2460 4 месяца назад +1

    Jai Sanatan

  • @politics4270
    @politics4270 5 месяцев назад +2

    ❤❤❤❤🎉🎉

  • @arvindsharda8700
    @arvindsharda8700 4 месяца назад

    ये एपिसोड कहीं ज्यादा अच्छा बन सकता था, slightly disappointed.

  • @user-lucknil66
    @user-lucknil66 4 месяца назад +2

    @ms3260 if you are not interested then you need not be here

  • @KrishiMandirOrganics
    @KrishiMandirOrganics 4 месяца назад

    Shivaji tomming his saffron flag and Bhawani talwar
    Was not for a Hindu kingdom, else what ?

    • @sachinkhale7513
      @sachinkhale7513 3 месяца назад

      Bro. Please quote as Chattrapati Shivaji Maharaj. He was a king who established Swarajya when we were being ruled by Bahamani Sultans and Mughals. The feat that he achieved almost singlehandedly was an epoch making event in itself.

    • @Raut-warrior
      @Raut-warrior 2 месяца назад

      Read chhatrapati shivaji saviour of Hindu India by Mehendale

  • @kamakshijolly5949
    @kamakshijolly5949 4 месяца назад

    Swapan Dasgupta started looking more like Derek o Brian

  • @ravindrapalmalik3845
    @ravindrapalmalik3845 4 месяца назад

    Jadunath Sarkar wrote extensively about Jats also!

  • @useraru
    @useraru 5 месяцев назад

    I wonder why TCA hasn't been invited for such a long time. I bought his trio's book, atleast 4 years back!

  • @yj9032
    @yj9032 4 месяца назад

    Wait till they discover what Sir Jadunath said about Marathas 😂

  • @prakashrao8077
    @prakashrao8077 4 месяца назад

    Can’t thank you enough

  • @gopinathmondal5939
    @gopinathmondal5939 4 месяца назад

    Please speak in Bengali Sir

  • @gopinathmondal5939
    @gopinathmondal5939 4 месяца назад

    Sir please arrange a Beng Meeting

  • @radhajoshi161
    @radhajoshi161 5 месяцев назад +3

    History is not a narrative

  • @subratadatta4074
    @subratadatta4074 4 месяца назад +2

    "The writing of history is an intensely personal experience between the historian and the evidence which he has gathered."
    My interest in reading Sir Jadunath's books and the books on him has been greatly rekindled by this excellent discussion.
    Thank you, Sangam Talks.

  • @nandagopalgoswami9727
    @nandagopalgoswami9727 5 месяцев назад

    What is your opinion about Neheru as a historian in relation to his book Indian history?

    • @iitnakanpur..
      @iitnakanpur.. 5 месяцев назад +7

      If nehru was historian then I'm president of America 😂

    • @anilsinha4968
      @anilsinha4968 4 месяца назад +4

      My father was a pupil of Prof Kalikinkar Dutta one of the co- author of An Advanced History of India along with Raychaudhri and R.C Mazumdar. ( Prof Dutta was one of Jadunath Sarkar's pupil). Prof Dutta had a very low opinion of Pandit Nehru 's historical knowledge. But after all he was the Prime minister of India and what ever he uttered was worth in gold . This was his observation.

    • @sudhirgupt219
      @sudhirgupt219 4 месяца назад +3

      J l nehrue was a third grade in which he has preoccpied knowledge given to him by his bishop tutor.

    • @nagabhushanar.s6113
      @nagabhushanar.s6113 4 месяца назад +2

      Nehru a nth grade historian. Better he is ignored with contempt,he deserves.

    • @anilsinha4968
      @anilsinha4968 4 месяца назад +1

      @@nagabhushanar.s6113 Discovery of India was prescribed as an English textbook when we were in school. It was in 1975 at the height of Indira Gandhi rule.

  • @msms3260
    @msms3260 5 месяцев назад +1

    Please come to the main points quickly, very few people have time and patience for peripheral, nuanced discussions. There 2000 channels more available to public.

  • @travelwithrasel2434
    @travelwithrasel2434 4 месяца назад

    It’s Lundram talks🤣🤣