"I Request Trial By Court-martial." - Band of Brothers (2001)
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Band of Brothers is a 2001 American war drama miniseries based on historian Stephen E. Ambrose's 1992 non-fiction book of the same name. It was created by Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks, who also served as executive producers, and who had collaborated on the 1998 World War II film Saving Private Ryan. Episodes first aired on HBO starting on September 9, 2001. Critically acclaimed, the series won the Emmy and Golden Globe awards for best miniseries.
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WHY ARE WE YELLING
I wonder how many comments you’ve plagiarized and claiming it as your own. 😂
Or Netflix
Or the REELSAGE APP
Or I can stick with Max and say "fuck you"
I love at the end how he outranks sobel, and when sobel tries to walk by without saluting he says "you salute the rank, not the man"
Best line
Always came across as equally if not more petty than they portray Sobel to be. It bugs me how a show contrives drama by designating someone the ‘bad’ guy when Sobel in the show and real life is likely the reason the men survived and did so well.
@@BillsbobWasn't IRL Sobel petty and incompetent in the field too? I do understand they probably took some licenses, but they weren't that far off, were they?
I actually think he said in real life something to that effect, that Sobel was a major part in how they developed as a group and readied them for the war
@Billsbob not really, they could have had just as good training without toxic pettiness. And the reason easy company did so well was the leadership of winters and the other leaders, especially the NCOs
"Be a man, take the punishment" is the most backbone lacking gaslight ever XD and he got called on his bluff instantly.
“Be a man, take the punishment”
“Be a man, get over yourself”
Its really common
Well, it wasn't really bluff. It was an form of bullying which Sobel had been practicing for a long time, and Winters went to the court knowing full well he could lose the case. Sobel is shocked because he too realizes it's not an automatic win for him either.
@@Ghostiification I think it was a bit more than that. Had Winters 'taken it like a man' he would have admitted he didn't follow a direct order. I think Sobel thought he could get rid of his rival right there, and it backfired miserably.
@@skyrailmaxima Sadly. It's because of men like him and no actual war, is why the military's recruit numbers are so low.
This is by far David Schwimmer's best acting role. He understood his role and played it like a fiddle. He deserved to win a best supporting actor award.
Agreed!
Also all casting was good
Schwimmer is a whiny PoS in real public life. This wasn't even acting for him
@@WinterS0lstice I think Schwimmer is a quite lovely person in real life.
@@jacquesshellac2099 fair point. maybe he just had a string of off-days, as we all do
The look on Sobels face is one of the greatest "Oh f*** my bluff has been called" moments. Great acting.
Because he was wrong and he knew it.
In a way, it would be Winter's duty to go with the court martial if it truly was deleriliction of duty / failure to perform orders from superior. Sobel was pretending his strict by-the-book training was anything other than him being a power-mad tyrant
@@doctortimm3245yup I keep seeing people talk up sobel as some great leader he should've stayed home side as a DI that's where his BS would've been more helpful instead of it being a hindrance sure he made easy CO but he also drove everyone up the wall in europe
David Schwimmer has always been great at facial expressions, either subtle or exaggerated.
"Now the entire Division is going to know I'm a twat."
Schwimmer did such a great job with this character. His subtle nuances telegraphed his character's insecurities loudly.
He was perfect for this role.
I hated him, superb acting
Agree 100%
Sobel and Joffrey are two examples of great actors making us hate the characters they played.
He also looked a lot like Sobel
I’ll never understand why David Schwimmer hasn’t had more acting gigs since Friends. He is a superb actor.
Tbf it could be he was more interested in other stuff. He made (and continues to make) so much money off of Friends that he never has to work again. So that means he only has to take roles that interest him.
Idk but he just has this air of insufferableness about him lol
he did too good a job here
It is often hard for actors from long-running, popular shows to get other roles later. The worry is the audience will always think of them as "that guy from..." rather than the role he/she is currently playing.
true!
It’s hard to do any significant time in the military without running into a Sobel here and there. I got called on the carpet for not smiling at the Vice Wing Commander’s wife when she came through the front gate, then had paperwork there for me to sign. My first sergeant got wind of it, pulled me out of the Captain’s office and went in and had a shouting match with him. Came out and told me to forget the whole thing. MSgt Bither was a real one.
Why did you have to smile at an officers wife? Nowadays they would file a SH charge against you.
I know what you mean. My squad leader was a toxic rat bastard only in it for himself. He tried to bring me up on charges and NJP me after I disagreed with his form of punishment. He then made it personal and threatened me at which point, I told him that if he came near me, I was throwing him off the third deck of the barracks. Thankfully, the new platoon leader overheard the whole debacle, especially his threats, and told him to stand down. At that point, I informed the LT that I wanted to request a "Captain's Mast" and address the matter with him so I could avoid an NJP. My Captain liked me, so, he understood and was actually compassionate towards my plight when I requested transfer to a different unit. However, he told me I was a good Marine and it wouldn't be necessary. I was dismissed and as I was walking outside the COs office, I just hear the First Sergeant yell, " Sergeant, get the fuck in here!!" lol After that, never had to deal with that prick again!
Yeah that sounds like security forces. Glad you had a good first sergeant.
@@geeebuttersnap2433 yeah I couldn’t figure that one out until I came through the gate one day when my roommate was working. He was smiling, waving, chatting it up with everyone…really putting on a show. The VWC’s wife expected that every time. But that’s not me. And 100% it would flip the other way today you are so right about that.
Yup,right before I separated I went out one night.Woke up to banging on my door,LE said I had to go see the Sgt on duty,apparently the car next to mine had a ding in the door(my passenger side).Long story short,I was detained for”leaving the scene of an accident”(the dorm parking lot??)My Flight CMSgt came down and went off on the LE Tsgt for “being a complete piece of shit and wasting his time”.The petty BS in one of the reasons I decided not to reenlist.
"I telephoned."
Winters basically called bs on that by pointing out that he doesn't have a telephone so it's impossible for Sobel to have called.
He probably called the wrong number and left a message and only realized his mistake after winters pointed out the issue. I think that’s why he seems less confident and tries to coax winters into just taking the punishment after the revelation since he knows his court marshal has no grounds whatsoever.
@@Demos_Jeff small correction, I don't mind grammar generally but this particular one is a pet peeve*, it's court martial not marshal. As in military, whereas marshal is an officer of state, although both have the same origin.
It sounds like he meant that he telephoned his department to deliver his message. But the department couldn't reach him because they couldn't telephone him because of the family he was with. Either way, it sounded like a lie or an abuse of power.
@@PCDelorian Peeve* btw
@@PCDelorian it's spelled "pet peeve".
The fact he makes sure to say “irregardless” loud to show he’s just not that smart or equipped. The writers/director did such a good job.
i was gonna comment, the one of few time "Irregardless" was used correctly.
@@xHeavenHillsx Appropriately, in any case, heh
It's quite cromulent.
David Playa annoying characters so well. That irregardless just sold it. What an asshat...the character of course not David
About as useful as 'I could care less' which indicates you do care somewhat. 'I couldn't care less' is correct.
To be pacific, and for all intensive porpoises...
"I request trial by combat. Winters is coming."
Underrated comment right here
Noice
You win.
Very nice
You need more attention
Sobel trying to start the race when Winters is already at the finish line
I don’t hate Sobel but I understand he’s a coward and a fucking asshole. Sobel became much worse towards the end when he realized he wasn’t fit for leading the men in actual combat and took it personally. He trained those men extremely well and they were more prepared than any other company upon entry to France. Winters lead them like he was born to.
For real, I’m pretty sure even their chain of command knew Winters was much better combat leader.
Sobel fucks up pretty badly later in the show and gets transferred to a new unit. E-company got really lucky, i would not wanna sit next to Sobel when shit hits the fan. Bet the big gents were just waiting for a right amount of fuck ups from Sobel. I should rewatch the show. Its so goddamn good
No.
No?
When the actors went through their basic training before filming. Schwimmer distanced himself from the rest of the cast as his part of getting into character of Sobel. He did a great job, along with the rest of the actors. This series is iconic.
Turns out that's Ross's grandfather was a prick.
They brought him in on day 9 ao the others were resentful
Damian Lewis did the same: He respected and honored Mr. Winters, met him and took the pre filming ("Fil-em") training seriously dispite his wicked sense of humor. Both actors were brill and Ron Livingston ( Lewis Nixon ) The entire cast was outstanding! imho
This series was brilliant back in the day. It was 8 or 9 years after Saving Private Ryan but were so similar in ways.
One of the best series ever made
Sobel's fate was sealed the moment he uttered the word, "Irregardless".
I despise it when people say that.
Technically not even a word. Also technically a double negative which would mean you’re actually saying regard😂
@@johnpakard6386 😂 technically it absolutely is a word.
@@Meliodaful Nope
@@johnpakard6386 yep
Obviously, in real life, Winters would have requested the trial off his own bat: Sobel crossed the line with this one, and Winters knew it.
Exactly. Also a court marshal has to be overseen by a flag officer and it's pretty obvious a flag officer won't care about latrine inspections.
Winters did request a trial. Sobel issued an Article 15 which Winters has the right to appeal to court marshal which he did in this scene. Sobel literally tells him not to in this exact clip.
It's court "martial". Marshall is a law enforcement officer.
@@NomadismeExperimentalWhat you are saying is that Marshall Matters?
@@AnarexicSumo you're wrong. They don't care what the order was only that there was a lawful order. And they 100% care about latrine inspections. Dirty latrines are breeding grounds for disease which can make entire battalions combat ineffective. The military is huge about hygiene for this very reason.
The duty of all commanders is maintaining good order and discipline. This 100% would have gotten a court martial had it have actually been valid. They knew it wasn't because the battalion and regiment commander knew Winters was a good officer and knew Sobel wasn't. The tipping point was a bunch of NCOs stepping up and flat out refusing to follow him (which they really are lucky they weren't shot because mutiny is a capital offense)
Now a days Sobel would have been relieved following the certification lanes they were running.
Notice how David Schwimmer's eyes kept avoiding eye contact with Damein Lewis. Nice portrayal of guilty conscience.
"Even though I failed to inform you, you're in trouble."
Edit, so 22k likes just so yall know, I'm a disabled infantry vet of 8 years. Discharged 2019. I know a thing or two cause I've seen a thing or two as well.
Every manager at the job
Its even funnier when you realize Sobel did it because he was jealous of Winters and wanted to punish him for embarrassing him during a training exercise
One of the longest standing military traditions.
Sounds like my Peoject Maneger
Welcome to the military.
The fact Winters snatches a superior officer’s pen out of his hand as he’s using it is such a great little addition in this scene, it’s such a flagrant yet subtle display of disrespect to Sobel’s authority. But even better is the reaction from Sobel, and David Schwimmer absolutely nailed that “oh fuck he’s actually doing it” look of disbelief 😂
And that “stand before me at attention” line really just makes you hate Sobel that much more!!
Not only did he snatch the pen out of the officers hand, but he also signs his endorsement on whatever paper Sobel was holding at the time. It could’ve been anything, maybe something extremely important, but winters didn’t care.
Also, right after, Winters salutes and doesn't wait for Sobel to return the salute before he puts his arm down and leaves. Winters was like, "I'm done with you."
Even Winter had his limits.
My boss's father was part of easy company and I talked with them, when they mentioned it, I was surprised (mutiny is punishable by death, they said they thought about it but realized that if Sobel led them, they were going to die anyway)
@@IAmAFamelwhat Winters signed (While a prop for filming) was the notification of infraction. It's the sheet of paper you're handed when you eff-up. At the bottom is 2 lines, one you sign to say "Yeah, I did that" and accept the penalty, or the other line to say "Nah, not me." and push it through to a courts martial. Winters just signed the other line.
This clip doesn't show it, but when Winters first walks into this scene, he's holding the paper.
Schwimmer acted his ass off in this. One of his best roles. For such a likable guy to transform into this detestable little worm... that's an actor.
Especially his expression at the end when his character realized he fucked up. David doesn't get enough credit for his role in this. What a great performance.
Winters signed the papers for court martial request because he knew he would win it. Not only that, but he had the backing of his NCO’s, all of whom signed a letter refusing to follow Sobel into combat. It was the perfect snub to Sobel.
It was only three NCOs and they were dismissed from the 101st for insubordination/mutiny.
The letter happened after this incident.
Snubbing Sobel probably saved the entire company.
@@logannewman4532There's certainly no doubt in my mind that that's 100% true.
the NCOs only said they had no faith in Sobel they never said anything about Winters
He said “irregardless”. I don’t know why but it’s like nails across the chalkboard for me.
One of our inspectors at work is like that. I like finding a way to use the word in conversation to Crack him up
Yup bad grammar
That's because "irregardless" is not a word, but a failed attempt to sound intelligent. Language commentators have said "irregardless" is not a word as early as 1927, and that one should use "regardless" instead since it means the same thing.
Attaching an "ir-" prefix to a word that already carries a negative connotation (like regardless, which means a lack of regard or despite everything) is a double negative. That's why words like "irresponsible," "irrational," and "irrelevant" work, while "irregardless" does not. Class dismissed!
Was it intentional? I can't imagine a group of professional writers all missed that one.
I think it was intentional just to highlight the captain's massive ego and ignorance@@PANZERFAUST90
My grandfather fought in the 101st from D-day to the end of the war. He said Winters was one of the greatest men he’d ever met and by far the best leader he could ever have asked for.
I love the little detail of Winters allowing his military discipline to slip, i.e. having to be told to stand at Attention and taking the pencil without permission. Shows how pissed off he was over the whole thing.
Well in the military you never really stand at attention when talking to a higher ranking officer or NCO. They'll only ever tell you to stand at attention or at parade rest if you're in trouble or they are mad at you.
@ilikeramenyum616 You're supposed to stand at Attention when speaking to a superior officer unless they tell you otherwise.
Officers normally don't stand at attention to one another, when an officer reminds a subordinate officer to stand at attention it usually suggests they are mad at them
@@hyrinshratu yes that is right, but it is almost never enforced, at least in the Marine Corps. It's kind of the other away around now a days where you stand normally unless they tell you otherwise.Not saying its right, just how it is.
@@hyrinshratuI'm an Air Force vet, yeah we never did that.
Sobel acting is so good that all of us forgot the Ross.
Imagine that. Ross is Sobel.
actually I saw way too much of ross in sobel. that almost cartoonish display of sobel was the most irritating thing of the whole series to me.
In hindsight though, that's probably entirely down to you seeing so much Ross. You'd probably feel differently if he'd been in this before Friends, I think. He really does play the perfect power tripping OCS-trained bureaucrat here.
@@Yamsthenills I watched Friends before this and I did not remembered it's Ross.
Credits to all the actors , we all were like oh it's this guy only after like 5-10 years. Tons of the most Talented actors are in this.
Who’s Ross?
@@sokee1354 Are you from the US?
It’s so amazing that this scene is filmed perfectly. I just can’t believe that it depicts something that actually happened. Sobel really did pull off this exact stunt to get Winters in trouble. My favorite part about this show is it’s based on actual historical facts. To me, you just can’t beat a true story especially when it’s about living heroes.
This bit right here is what forced the NCOs to stand against him. What a move that turned out to be. Sobel made them into machines, but fortunately, Winters was the one that got to operate that machine when it mattered. Damn fine tandem they made and absolutely hated each other.
Winters was a natural leader who cared about his men....Sobel was a decent trainer but a terrible combat leader who would've got his men slaughtered because of a lack of intelligence
@johnnyjarrett8166 He's not just a decent trainer. As Nix put it, the guy is a genius. Lol
@@johnnyjarrett8166Ain't the 101st airborne the best unit the USA has ever had? For sure one of the best. How can you call their trainer "decent". You're fucked in the head.
@@gibster9624 More like in a certain way, he was so BAD at his job that it inspired greatness in his men out of spite for him. You might "CAUSE" that, but you don't get to take credit for it.
@WhoTookPlockrock Oh sure, that's why drill instructors are like that now.
Believe the legend Sgt Hartman once said, "Because I am hard, you will not like me." Not to mention he did say under his command Easy would be the finest in the regiment. Also both Nix and Even Winters himself said his methods were effective and credited him for preparing the men.
Idk how much more you need to believe that Sobel was an ass but that doesn't mean he wasn't a leader.
Winter: I was on a break.
Dude, I spat my toothpaste. That was the best comment I read all month.
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Underrated comment!
When interviewed later, Schwimmer said: "I wasn't even acting, I was just being myself"
He was ON A BREAK
@@Mark-se4dr😂😂😂
@@Mark-se4dr i was hoping for someone to reference friends
His job is to act, not sure if being yourself counts as good acting.
@@adityaj950 fair enough, but if he's homophobic then all bets are off
I work in a hospital as an imaging tech.
I keep a journal of all of the orders I receive and the time I get those orders. When the 5hit hits the fan, I have all of the information and no one can dump the blame for their crisis on me.
The first time I whipped out my little journal was at a disciplinary hearing where a doctor claimed I took images of a patient without his orders. I read back the orders I received from the doctor. Everything is date and time stamped with no spaces between entries. It probably saved my butt.
Thank you Colonel Winters for inspiring me to keep a journal.
I have always wondered: Can't you be accused of forging these journals?
R&D engineers have their journals signed daily by witnesses to avoid such accusations in patent disputes, but a regular journal can be forged quite easily. It's age can, of course, be verified by an expert but that's for legal battle not a disciplinary committee.
@@kavoshkhoshbin1432 Probably, but in this case of the person has a lot of these journals kicking around that adds a lot of weight. I did the same thing with the tag relief system while I worked for Ford.
@@kavoshkhoshbin1432 As Jason said, plus the other orders will probably be easily verified by the people who gave them as they have no stake in the accusation. "All of these orders are legitimate except this specific one, hmm?"
@@jasonviande5053 I don't exactly understand. Are you referring to the psychological effect of having the paper trail which makes the managers back off?
Also, would you please elaborate on the tag relief system? what is it?
@@ApofisRaxionNecros That's brilliant! They can't accuse everybody of being in on it.
Irregardless....grrrr
David Schwimmer excellent performance every scene he was in!
You know an actor/ actress is really good when you think you dislike them. Lol
@Greenwoodland so true. He even looks like the real Sobel. Good casting.
I dislike it as well, but its been around for centuries and it gets to count as a word lol
Guess you could say it went Schwimmingly.
I was wondering if anyone would catch that.....
This is the best miniseries ive ever seen. Bought it on dvd as soon as it was available. My grandfather was with the 82nd, n they thought the 101st was the best of the best. The stories he told me... he passed away in 1991
His look of “hey you can’t do that, I wanna punish you! Take the punishment!!” 😂😂
More like: "Oh crap, I have to make myself look like an idiot over this now."
He knows that it will reflect on him once the trial is underway.
That, and the insult of having someone like Sobel tell you to "be a man" and take the punishment!
"May I borrow your pen, sir." Yanks it before he says "Yes."
I think you mean: before he says "no".
Power move as a set up for an even bigger power move
Red Ross: you take my pen?? YOU TAKE MY PENNNN!?!! WITHOUT MY CONSENT!!!
* Birds fly away *
RIP Herbert Sobel
You may not have been perfect but damn did you get these boys ready for war better than anybody could
A fact which escapes most people
@@leestockton9367exactly, in real life Sobel was a great officer and did his best to prepare his men for war. He wasn’t the coward we see in the show, however the scene where he doesn’t salute Major Winters is completely true.
Major Winters was alone in an alleyway when he passed Captain Sobel, who failed to Salute him. “You Salute the Rank not the Man, Captain Sobel” that was 100% real.
Shout out to David Schwimmer for the role he played.
I liked him as Ross but he plays a superb douchebag! One of my favorite series
It was after this I stopped referring to him as “Ross from friends” great performance.
True
He plays himself. From Friends to this and in other productions Schwimmer plays a whiny opinionated hypocritical D-Bag, who manifestly exhibits sadistic tendencies and when he gets called on it, he buckles like a cheap belt.
Take talent to make everyone hate you.
"Irregardless". The perfect word this character would use.
I am from New England and everyone said that. I didn't realize it was such a buzz phrase until I moved south and people called me out on it.
@@Emp6ft10in I still call ppl out on that word. It's as dumb as not conjugating the be verb or leaving it out entirely.
Irregardless should be used on the second objection, not the first.
@@Emp6ft10in I cant believe I agree with the south now.
It's mark of low intelligence
Ross doesn't know that "irregardless" is not a word.
Maj. Dick Winters telling Capt. Sobel to "GFY" without saying it.
He did. Captain Sobel, we salute the rank not the man comment was it
He was only lt at this point
At this stage Winters was a 1st Lieutenant and was outranked by Sobel who was Captain.
The part which revealed Sobel as lying was when he said that he telephoned and Winters said he was billeted with a family which had no telephone, it was a quick downhill slide from there…
I’m not a big fan of David Schwimmer, but he did a fantastic job with this role. Very authentic. He had the audience hating his character just as much as the men of Easy Company hated Sobel in real life. I was extremely impressed.
I swear, I think his scenes as Ross are what got him this role. All the screaming scenes Ross has in Friends were like a constant audition for this role (obviously didn’t know this was gonna be made but in a coincidental manner I think all the years of Ross yelling got the attention of casting)
If you love or hate the character played by the actor, it means the actor have made hell of a job. Well done lads, I salute both of you! :)
I always like the noise of the typewriter in this scene - its stops when Winters request a court martial...
I didnt notice, thank you :)
I think the “stand before me at attention” was the last indignation he was willing to accept.
Band of brothers was a masterful display in acting from the start to finish, even tom hanks kid portrayer a brand new west point graduate showing up at the end of the war was spot on.
"I will let the Gods decide my fate. I demand a trial by combat."
Better watch out. I hear Sobel there is a master of Unagi.
ooph, Sobel wouldn't live long enough to fail at suicide
David Schwimmer really nailed this part. I'm still impressed all these years later.
Schwimmer did an awesome job playing weak characters you love to loathe.
This little stunt led Sobel to losing Easy Company, which then led to him saluting Major Winters 😂
*led
@@ncooty thanks 😂
@@hedwardrodriguez2538 AutoCorrect will be the death of us all.
Winters was an incredibly sharp individual. Brilliant tactician, professional, brave and lethal as all hell.
Winter's also led from the front & thats what earned him his mens respect
@davidsmirnoff98267 definitely! Such an underrated trait to have in those times. I saw band of brothers for the first time in basic training, we we all in awe of this man lol
To be fair, the men were so well trained, the selection process so long and rigorous, any competent platoon leader would have looked like a brilliant tactician. One who had undergone the same training process? Even better.
@@samobispo1527 I definitely agree. Winters stands out in particular because he literally wrote various tactics still used today by our infantry. Every time you see a road crossing, trench clearing, etc. He improved on those tactics. Many can be trained, but it takes another level of perception to innovate. Especially given that these are methods he personally tested
Why I got out of the Navy...the military wants yes men, I didn't have it in me anymore.
No shame in that.
Why I ultimately never joined, besides issues with a few misdemeanors.
A) You're selling your body to a government that doesn't gaf if you live or die, then definitely doesn't gaf after you get out
b) having guys with inferiority and God complexes yelling at me and I have to obey them or I get punished.... I dealt with that shit enough in schools with teachers who think their students are their slaves..... Biggest headed individuals: teachers, drill instructors, and politicians!
well they sure don't want you to question orders and will go miles legally and illegally to enforce that as shows the wikileaks
you're smart, they hated your brain
Boring.
plus the navy is into all kinds of evil. navy intelligence is keeping secrets from the american people that could change the world but they're evil people keeping us down
Every unit i was with had all of these kinds of characters, each playing their role majestically. The everyday military life is no joke. The formalities and tradition hopefully still intact from what i remember and was taught. Though my time to this series was 60 to 70 years difference not much changed with the politics and the games.
"You salute the rank, not the man"
Isn't Karma a beautiful thing.
Only in movies where you have to have a childish portrayal of ‘good’ guys and ‘bad’ guys. Seems a tad disrespectful to the actual men, especially when the story already has a bad guy.
@@BillsbobEasy Company literally hated Sobel in real life. He made a villain out of himself to them all
Sounds like you know nothing about the reality this show depicted.@@Billsbob
@@Billsbobare you a military man, bob?
Love how the cpt gave the look of "It was at this moment he knew he fucked up"
I have read only a few books in my life sad to say, but this man’s autobiography was one of the easiest to read and gave such insight into what it’s like to lead men into battle.
One particular part that I’ll never forget was how he said you learn “who your killers are” the men you know you can depend on to “get it done.” 🥶
I am dealing with an SNCO who is JUST LIKE THIS right now. Dude gives us impossible tasks and then moves the goalposts when we get close to succeeding, all the while berating us as we struggle
Sounds like you shouldnt have signed up to be ordered around like a sub with their dom 😂😂
Take the court martial
Well, that guy doesn't sound like a very good leader. Make friends with a warrant officer. Maybe some of his paperwork will get lost, and he'll have to recertify on his marksmanship or something
It’s to make you better
Just like everything else you encounter
Be your best
@@theculturewatch2414 I want to believe that, but I've experienced too many officious pricks with insecurities to believe the military contains none.
Sobel deserves the scorn just for saying "Irregardless"
And using it almost correctly, but still wrong.
David Schwimmer was amazing playing his part.
I let out a pretty big laugh.. when the guy said he didn't have a phone, in my head I thought, "REVOKED!"
Then right after Sobel actually does it 😂
A little beer shot out my nose and it's still burning
Hah! Ajay, if you haven't watched the series, definitely try it out if you have time. There's some tough scenes to watch, but it's really good I think.
@@Lightbringer-777 Back in the day when the og dvd box-set came to sale I bought it as I must've been like 11 at the time. I put one episode on and my father happened to be watching with me and he said to put the next episode after it was done (as I was gonna anyway, since we all know it's an amazing show) and we ended up watching the whole series at one go 😅
Gotta numb those nostrils up so they don't burn when that happens 😂😂😂
@@aleksisuuronen5969 that's great!! Watched a really good show and made a fine memory with your pops!
When he says I request trial by court martial has put mountain of work for Sobel
The look on his face! OMG.
David Schwimmer is fantastic in this role. truly a great character actor
He plays "anal rules follower" perfectly
Many commentators are suggesting that requesting trial was a "gotcha" moment for Winters against Sobel, as if Winters knew he'd be acquitted and Sobel humiliated. I saw it differently. Winters was taking a huge risk that the trial (court martial in time of war!) could have gone against him, but he perceived his honour to be at stake, regardless of the outcome. Yes, he was angry, but he made a personal judgement that he couldn't just play safe and take this injustice sitting down, without losing his self-respect and that of the men in whom it was his task to instill courage.
Almost.
The disciplinary action (if accepted) would have stayed in his files and followed him throughout his career -- inhibiting promotions. Sobel was jealous of Winters and was trying to hold him back. Made him his attache in order to undermine his raport with the men by forcing him to find something to punish them for.
Winters took a calculated risk. 50-50 that it works in his favor versus 100% that it works against him.
Irregardless of how you feel, it still right there.
This takes me back in time. When I was a young PL, my soldiers liked me because I went green to gold and as prior enlisted knew this circus. But some officers were JUST LIKE Sobol here. 🤦🏻♂️
there have never existed more Sobols than exist today. They are everywhere in the Private and Public sectors
Amen, brother. My CO was an asshole just like this character. Too bad it was real life for me.
@@randallulrich Bitching about COs is a natural state of enlisted because they don’t know what happens behind the curtains. No matter of you’re the best PL, XO or CO, you’ll be hated for a time until you prove yourself to men. Luckily for me, I went green to gold so everyone knew me. I can’t say I was a smart or politically learned leader, but I was a decent CO hated by officers but respected by enlisted 🤷🏻♂️
@@UlfhedinnNorsk: I was an officer as well. (But I wasn’t a mustang.)
My CO was an asshole universally hated by everyone under his command, from the XO on down. His reputation even bled over to other squadrons, such that if you mentioned what squadron you were from, you got a knowing, sympathetic “you poor bastard”.
I was a good officer, and I was respected by those under my command, because I respected them and took care of my men.
Rule #1 as an officer.
@@randallulrich Yeah. I hear you. Every unit has those 🤨. Although having them in infantry makes everything a lot worse. Many different types of shitty leaders out there. Especially these days 🤦🏻♂️
The difference in their mode of command is brilliantly portrayed in the scene.
It was at this moment that Sobel knew: He f^*ked up.
Solid acting and great show- the excerpts from the real Dick Winters really speak volumes to the “Greatest Generation”.
Winters requesting trial by court martial was the nice way of givig Sobel the middle finger
Lol, I read "I request trial by..." and immediately thought "combat" before finishing the sentence. That show still lives rent free in my head.
WINTERS,A TRUE AMERICAN,GOD BLESS THANK YOU 😊
How so? He did not take any ground from the Indigenous people. He did not carpet bomb anyone for some oil. No inside job(s) to invade anyone - and he clearly did not vote for a maniac toddler like Trump.
There are great men in every country of the world - so what makes him the "true american" to you? For me he was WAY better then the american person you refer to.
I was blessed to live two doors down from Stephen Ambrose - during high school. He was a great man also.
Great acting by both men! Sobel really was a great officer during training and Winters, well his men says it all. Salute to the greatest generation in human history.
Such a great preformance by both actors.
Imagine he said “ I request trial by combat” that would’ve been boss
"I guess you guys just aren't ready for that yet. But your kids are gonna love it."
@@michaeloconnor5904 That’s a back to the future reference 😂👍
This is the best war series ever of this time frame. I like how each episode is first started by the stories and experiences from the actual veterans these great actors are portraying. Thank you to our brave veterans.
I love “irregardless” is not a real word, accepted now, but definitely not by officers in the 1940s, it is just “regardless”. And taking the pen out of his hand was such a subtle power move……… and it all end with, “You salute the RANK, not the Man”. Amazing show
It is a real word words are made by use and irregardless is very well used
According to Merriam-Webster its been a word for over 200 years and was getting more widespread in America with commenters in 1927 saying its not a real word.
@@davankrueger1725being used doesn't make it grammatical, unless your goal is to say something is the OPPOSITE of regardless.
If captain sobel went to combat I'm sure friendly fire would have taken him out
I have a funny feeling his parachute would have failed to open
Didn't they try to frag him?
@@An-yp3gdThey wanted to
@@An-yp3gdwhat is frag?
@@cadfish11when you’re such a great officer that your men decide to give you a grenade with no pin
Never...gets...old.
"why cant you read my mind?"
The algorithm of RUclips strikes again with these golden war movies and shows. Schindlers list, the pianist, glory, now Band of Brothers.
Some men are born to lead and some men are born to be led, the leader will always shine through.
Sobel knows a trial will expose HIM.
Irregardless is a nonsensical word. Yer assuposed to say regardless.
it actually is a real word, just not commonly used
Yes, it is. It is in the dictionary. Irregardless is as much of a word as inflammable.
For all expansive porpoises, you know exactly what they mean.
@@tehpurplepillssuper undaraded commit
Actually is a word, people just dont used that much, instead they say "Regardless"
I could listen to someone use a typewriter and just relax from the sound of it lol just so relaxing
The look on Sobel's face is priceless
The look on Sobel's face says it all.
This scene sums up *one* of the reasons recruitment and retention these days is so challenging for the services.
Regardless of the fact that Schwimmer was chosen based on his resemblance to Sobel - as was the case with nearly every other Band of Brothers actor - he was the absolute best choice. I wanted to mash his face every second he was on screen. They should’ve done a shot-for-shot after-credits scene from Old School where Lt. Dike is driving his car over a bridge, flips it, and lands on Sobel fishing in the river below.
Don’t you mean irregardless?
@@derekderek2570 I meant liter o’ cola. It's French, for give me some fucking cola!
"Irregardless" is not a word sir
It is. Just a stupid one that nobody should ever use (but alas)
@@Golladan Perchance.
inflammably so
I thought I'd be the only one to notice that. LOL guess not.
Can't take them seriously. That face. That voice!
"I request trial..."
"...by combat."
Winters cast the first stone here, and the NCO's rained the rest
Underrated performance by Schwimmer. Dude really gives it all when he acts, I love it
"Be a man and take the punishment I'm unjustly giving you because of my bruised ego."
The classiest middle finger was requesting that trial.
Not sure why he didn't just toss the paper work if he most lilkely knew it would have come back to bite him in the ass.
Only Ross can say a made up word like irregardless and deliver it with such confidence.
Every word ever is entirely made up
It is a word, but he uses it incorrectly.
Irregardless is not a word, script writers, simply, regardless. The English language is a beautiful thing.
Irregardless he said confidently
Take a load of this guy
"Get a load of this guy"
I feel like take a load of this guy could be taken wrongly😂😂
Yeah, I don't think Winters would be interested in Sobel like that.
@@bigsmoke1156 "Be a man, take the punishment."
Always be willing to stand up for yourself when you know you did all that was possible.
It does not matter the pain of pride, or what you will gain or lose. To give into pride at the cost of your own decency, is no pride at all.
The one where Ross crossed the line. 😬
PIVOT!!!
Shoot he called my bluff...PIVOT!!
Dude, Schwimmer is a hidden gem of an actor. His command of facial expression makes the scene.