why were the Percy Jackson movies so bad?
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Fun fact: In the book, Tyson wasn't simple-minded, he was a literal child. He was physically around 15 when we met him, but because of the way cyclopes age, he was literally a toddler
Not a toddler but he was like 7 mentally. Your point still stands ofcourse
EXACTLY I WAS LIKE WHAT THE HECK THIS IS NOTHING LIKE TYSON
which led to him getting bullied
YES TYSON WAS BABY, LITERALLY AND FIGURATIVELY HE WAS A PRECIOUS BOY, THE MOST PRECIOUS BOY WHO WANTED NOTHING MORE THAN TO HELP HIS BROTHER AND GET HIS BROTHER TO ACCEPT HIM!!!
It felt very relatable for me because I’m autistic so by that age I was also more “childish” than other kids my age
In the books, the whole reason Percy feels mad that Clarisse had to go on the quest instead of him is because Grover was kidnapped in the EXACT place the fleece is located. Percy could not care less if Clarisse went instead of him if Grover wasn’t kidnapped lmao. The writers really didn’t give a shit about this movie.
Not to mention, percy doesn’t have a personality in this movie. In the books he was a sassy, funny 12 year old who cared about his friends more than himself, that was literally his fatal flaw; loyalty. But in the movie he was a random guy who didn’t have a personality, and is self centred 16 years old who legit doesn’t have any compelling personality traits and only cares abt himself
@@ATS2612he was 12 in the first book but every book Other than the battle of the labyrinth has him age up a year, it was PERFECT.
He's also the water demigod and the fleece is where? Lol
EXACTLY!! Like Percy isn’t someone that constantly wants glory. In fact, in the trials of Apollo series, when Percy makes a short guest appearance, he legit says no and shuts the door on Apollos face when he asks him for help, purely because he’s had enough of all of it. He just wanted to live a normal life. He only felt he had to go on the quest because he wanted to save Grover.
@@dontask9000I laughed at that part, he wanted to fishined high school go to Roman camp with Annbelle and tell their grandkids story
Fun fact: in the books, Luke doesn't have a yacht. He has an entire friggin cruise ship swarming with monsters and we don't find out how he financed that until MUCH later (and with much later I mean almost two entire five-book series later)
Which book specifically? I remember reading that but I don't remember where
@@mysticaxolotl8215 The cruise ship appears for the first time in Sea of Monsters (book 2), the financing comes up in the Trials of Apollo series but I don't know which book exactly (I think it's either the first or the second though)
@@justsomeone3703a little late here but definitely the 1st book, triumvirate corporation(?) funded it
@@mysticaxolotl8215 i think it says in trials of apollo
Hermes coming to Percy rather than Percy finding him was a very significant thing in the books, since gods DON'T often interact with mortals or half-bloods. Hermes was already aware of what Luke was doing and helped Percy on his quest specifically only if he agreed to try and help Luke in turn. It was a big deal that showed despite his terrible parenting practices, he really did care for Luke.
Grover asks for another shot of nectar, when the books clearly state that if he consumes nectar, he explodes. Proof that the film writers clearly haven't read the source material!
I COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT THAT LMFAO
There's so many signs they didn't read the books
I feel like the mist is so much worse though. This movie proved they knew the mist was a thing and they still chose the worst possible way to use it.
Omg RIGHT?!
I think that was the case for ambrosia, actually
Honestly it's impressive he was able to find 2 movies that don't exist
Yeah I was like really? There’s a PJO movie? I’ve never heard of it before
I thought we'd all collectively hallucinated that the cast of Baywatch (the one with Priyanka Chopra as the villain) were somehow in 2 Percy Jackson movies.
To think he made our nightmare into a real thing. Amazing.
Peter Johnson movies
I know there's an upcoming TV show approved by Rick Riordan himself airing soon, but I never heard of these movies. I guess the mist concealed them from us all this time.
Trust me, the reboot will somehow be worse
In the books:
5:52 Tyson and Percy were already friends at school, with Tyson being a homeless kid they gave a grant to or something. Him being Poseidon’s son isn’t anything unusual or special, but Poseidon claiming him as his son is, because usually gods ignore their monster children even more then they ignore their human children
8:23 the oracle was in the first book. She’s very important because without her prophecies nobody can go on quests. Percy visits her in the first book
9:45 Thalia’s tree is also mentioned in the first book, as is the story of how it came to be.
10:30 Percy wants to go on the quest for the Golden Fleece because he wants to save Grover, who got captured by the same cyclops who has the fleece. He doesn’t like Clarice but he’s not motivated by something as petty as jealousy
13:08 Luke can afford a cruise ship because he’s working for Kronos, who’s backed by ancient undead Roman emperors, among other things
15:45 Percy can automatically know exactly where they when they’re on water because he’s the son of Poseidon.
16:13 Circe Island and the cyclops island are completely different places. It’s also a spa, and the heroes have no idea that it’s her island when they land. Tyson and Clarice weren’t even there when they landed
17:40: Kronos isn’t resurrected until the fifth book. Luke doesn’t even show up on the island
Omg thanks 😂 I was thinking about making the list. Made one with my friends when we first saw the movie
Kronos was resurrected in the fourth book tho
@@Corridor3000 right I always forget
well he was in the process of resurrection in the 4th book when we see him in the Golden sarcaphegus and slightly awake when Rachel nails him in the eye with a blue hairbrush. We see him fully resurrected and in action in book 5.
Also Percy knows exactly where Grover is as Grover made a link between them and he speaks to Percy in his dreams!
The funniest part of the prophecy is that Percy wasn't even really the hero of prophecy. He was IN the prophecy, but he wasn't even the hero destined to save the world.
Also, about the Oracle, in the books, she's in the first book. She was there the whole time, the movie just cut it for some reason, and they get prophecies whenever they go on a Magical Greek Adventure™
Can we just talk about the fact that the biggest victim of this production was the poor girl who was casted for Thalia? She was probably a big fan of the books, an up and coming young and ambitious actress, just landed a HUGE role for a HUGE franchise in a HOLLYWOOD MOVIE, had to settle for 10 total seconds of screen time knowing that she would get her time to shine in the later 3 books and possibly more… and none of that happened. I feel terrible for her.
I wish they could've taken her now and give her a bit of time to shine in the new show. Idk, cast her as one of the goddesses now that she's older or something
She was in Bates Motel too.
Aye, don't forget the pcs where she got a whole 30 seconds 🤯
@@enriquepx1698Perhaps as Artemis
@@brianxy3649isn’t Artemis supposed to be a like 13 year old?
I think all PJO fans can agree the most impressive part about the Peter Johnson movie was how well they f*cked up 😃
I love how you referred to it as the Peter Johnson movie.
Brilliant 🤣
It sure as hell ain't Percy Jackson lol 😂
They listed all the things from the books and said "how can we fuck this up"
Completely true and a great way to put it.
Grover is actually stuck as a lady cyclops for over a month in the books, and Grover uses a trick from an old myth where he unravels his wedding garments every night to stall for time.
As so many people have already pointed out, Percy didn't care who went to get the fleece, he cared that Grover was kidnapped and calling him for help. The fleece just happened to be in the exact location that Grover was being held. He was going to get his friend. The opening scene of the book is Gover calling Percy for help in his dreams. That is his primary motivation for almost the entire book, to save Grover. Having Gover be kidnapped while on the quest is asinine and removes the whole motivation behind the entire movie. (I was screaming that mentally.) You didn't even need to mention his searcher's license, which they completely cut out of the last movie, they could have just said he was out looking for more demigods.
They really traded all the accurate pieces of the plot to give us blond Annabeth 💀
Suddenly, I'm a lot less bothered by non-blond Annabeth in the series (not that I was super bothered before)
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Even though her being a smart blonde is like the centerpiece of her character? I don't get how people are okay with the casting for like most of these characters. If you put the main three leads in front of you and were asked to guess which kids/YA series they were from, would you honestly think "Percy Jackson" without knowing that ahead of time?
@@blackvendaeta7104 Honestly I think for the cast, especially the actors casted for Percy and Annabeth, maybe if they were casted as kids and not teenagers, the movies would've been more accurate.
@@blackvendaeta7104when has her being blonde ever been important to her character?
I feel personally victimized by the Percy Jackson movies.
You mean Peter Johnson
Then you’re pathetic
Percy Jackson movies? What are you on about, there aren’t any.
its not that bad, i feel liike its overhated. the first one is decent. i get its not that true to the books, but the actors were pretty good.
What movies?
In the book, Thalia's Tree only strengthened already-existing barrier about the camp, as well as provided a visual cue of safety for campers.
5:35
"You are believed to be Poseidon's only heir"..... WTF!? HEIR!? HEIR OF WHAT POSEIDON'S LITERALLY A GOD HE WON'T DIE AND LEAVE HIS EMPIRE TO HIS KID! And if he did, he definitely wouldn't give it to Percy, but to his son with his wife who actually lives in the ocean and is immortal, Triton
YES
“dont walk on my roof“ best line in a movie of all time
Honestly the actors are great, and they play older versions of the characters fine, it's the writers that sucked
That was the best part of the whole movie
I actually really liked that line lol
Idk y but it made me laugh
Its actually the only line in the entire movie i dont know what this review was about i have the dvd its just percy pacing around cinfused on a roof for 2 hours and every 5 minutes luke comes out and asks what hes doing 10/10 stars epic movie
In the book, the reason Percy disregards Clarisse and goes on his own little quest is that Grover got kidnapped by Polyphemus, but in the film, this only happens _after_ he's already embarked on a quest, which makes him seem really self-centered. This is especially funny when you realise his "fatal flaw" is loyalty, making him the exact opposite.
True! I hate his characterization here 🤦🏻♀️
They butchered Percy's character in both films. In the first one he treats his mom and Grover like he's above them, he didn't even care about the world being destroyed by the gods. And in this film he acts like Clarisse is stealing his moment and is jealous over Tyson. In the books, he constantly protects Tyson from bullies and Annabeth's comments.
People only say Logan was a good Percy because he was handsome. Take that away, you have a terribly written character nothing like Percy from the books
Exactly. Percy would have been totally fine with Clarisse had done the quest, but because Grover was in danger he had to save him, the fleece was in all honesty an after thought to Percy. Then there's my boy Tyson, THEY MASSACRED MY BOY
Bro right! That was one of my biggest pet peeve about this movie! That and them cutting cicis island and percy turning into a hamster. Like they turned into a defunct amusement park?? Stupid.
3:03 "To ensure no one in camp halfblood would die the same way."
Yeah, they would have to come up with their own new, original ways of dying.
It’s the fact that they messed up SO badly that every single fan collectively agreed that these are in fact the Peter Johnson movies. It’s the fact that they tried to fix the mistakes of the first movie by adding in important characters from the first book that weren’t there like Mr D, Clarisse, and most importantly the Oracle
Something that personally broke my mind was:
- They obviously wanted to make sequels.
- They had Chronos backstab Luke at first opportunity.
- How can anyone expect Luke to be so moronic that he would be like "Well, the Titan that I have been working to resurrect back stabbed me immediately. That really sucked. Welp. Time to get back to plotting more ways to resurrect Chronos."
Not to mention that Percy took him out so easy in this one, it would make it impossible for anyone to take him seriously moving forward.
I think the director knew they weren't going to get a sequel so he went all out
It's like the plot of Gunstar Super Heroes.
"Let's awake the destructor Golden Silver again! He won't try to destroy us this time!"
Luke got eaten by Polyphemus, they'd need a new villain
I feel like if they would have just stuck to source material they could have done sequels but like they didn't they j shat on books. They combined 4 books in one for this movie like in books kronos does not show up till 5th book if I'm not mistaken
There's A LOT wrong with this adaptation, but then deciding to resurrect the big bad, then kill him off immediately, then to hint at that he'll come back again, is the most infuriating thing about this movie.
Hey, be glad they didn’t touch Heroes of Olympus, Kane Chronicles , Magnus Chase, or Trials of Apollo.
Completely nerfed him and for literally no freaking reason.
I remember watching this movie in denial like
"No, they won't actually introduce/reveal chronos this early. No way. It would completely ruin the big bad for the entire overarching story..no way, because they can't have him being alive for the next 3 movies, there's no way........"
......
"....... holy shit they actually did"
Knew as soon as that happened that this adaptation series was dead in the water.
Also they said "Ummm, actually Riptide is the cursed blade" and then Percy defeated Kronos easily and the big emotional end reveal and Luke's sacrifice are completely ruined.
it's almost like they knew that their franchise was dead, so they decided 'fuck it' let's just have them fight the kronos now instead.
I remember spending a lot of time trying to think of the similarities between this movie and the second book and it was an appallingly short list. It also had only very general things like "His cyclops brother was introduced in the second book" and "Percey met Hermes" but the specifics about those things were changed so much I couldn't be much more specific than that.
They quoted the last line of the book when Thalia was revived
13:01 don’t mean to nerd out, but the reason why Luke had a yacht was explained in book 1 of the trials of Apollo series, a spinoff of Percy Jackson. Basically a company funded him because they wanted to destroy camp half blood.
Me: What’s with the hate for these movies?
“After reading the books”
Me: oh now I get it…
Same
Watched the first movie was like “THERES BOOKS!?!?!!!!” Read the books and was like…. “Well now the movie sucks…”
I don't even think Lightning Thief is that good of a book. Riordan only got really good at writing from Battle of the Labyrinth onward (and got substantially worse from Blood of Olympus onward).
@@roguebarbarian9133 I disagree with your opinion, though I think Blood of Olympus is a weak ending
Mm I never read the books of Percy Jackson but I seen the movies years ago in 2010, and 2013 but I forgot those films existed until Movieflame did a review on these films.
Love the books, hate the movies.
It’s like that for most franchises.
At least we’ll be getting a new season that is *_made_* by the *_author_* of the books.
hi
Truly every person that "the books and manga are better" cause no one is allowed to enjoy movies for some reasons and are supposed to get immersed into a book
@@treasure9342I’m not saying type can’t enjoy the move or more than the book, I’m just saying I *_usually_* like the books more than the movie.
I absolutely loved the books when i was younger but they have no connection to the movies and i don’t like that.
@@MeaslyMisterMinigun ok sure👍
9:07 And. Here. We. Go
Ive seen everybody give a comment on how the movies messed something up, so heres mine.
In the books, the line was "hero's soul cursed blade shall reap". Percy thought that this meant that he would be killed by his own blade, when really it meant Luke would make the heoic decision to kill himself to stop Kronos from rising.
I literally paused the video to scroll through the comments in anger when it said that.
3:11 not that I want to defend the Peter Johnson movies, but in book 4.5 (in between 4 and 5) it's said that a bronze dragon protected the camp, but then went rouge and went into the forest. In fact, they have been trying to find a good way to protect the camp.
Clearly they were trying to make this the best Harry Potter but instantly failed bc they didn’t get anything right from the books
The Harry Potter desperation was especially obvious with the first movie. They got the same director that kickstarted HP, even the marketing made it look like a shameless ripoff.
Yep but now the tv series will do amazing. Since Harry Potter wants to do the same so they can beat Percy
@@littlesparrow303 I thought HP wanted to do the same because the money from the movies was starting to dry up
@@bigbearkat2010 true true!! Also how the movies weren’t exactly accurate to the books based on what my friends told me. Didn’t know the movies were drying up since it’s still popular at attractions & fandom
@bigbearkat2010 More like Rowling's creative well is drying up. Given the amount of control she has over the franchise, they can't make anything unless it's one of her stories and as we saw with the Fantastic Beasts franchise she really doesn't have much left to add to her world so the only way for Warner Bros to keep making money off the franchise is to go back and re-adapt the book series.
Make no mistake, if it were up to Warner Bros they'd be milking the franchise the way Disney did with Star Wars and Marvel. So in a way, even though Fantastic Beasts probably would have been better if someone else were writing the scripts (a good author does not equal good screenwriter, and that's even if Rowling still had ideas left beyond "let's make the bad guys a parallel to Nazis") I guess it's good thing she does have that creative control or else we'd be as exhausted by HP content as we are with Marvel.
I know we all have our issues with these movies. Many, many, MANY issues. But recently Logan Lerman sent Walker Scobell a message praising his Percy Jackson performance, and I thought that was a very touching moment.
Thats so wholesome
we might hate the movies but we love logan (and the rest of the cast? ❤
Tbh, I feel like the cast itself, especially Percy, Grover and Annabeth would have been a great choice had they still been a) children and b) had a better script.
@@scatthachkagamine7923totally. they got good chops (especially Luke) but it's obvious they were trying their hardest with the shit script they were given. I honestly prefer their personalities (ignoring the fact that they're adults and not kids) over the mostly monotone acting and dialogue of the series even if it is more accurate.
Someone needs to sit down with Alex so we can explain real Percy Jackson lore to him
Yeah cause I’m more confused as ever 😂😂😂
14:13 Weirdest Funniest outta pocket line in a bad movie
as a fan of the percy jackson books the first movie was so disappointing, but when they were releasing the trailers to this second movie THEY WERE SO FUCKING MEAN. They only put on trailers the parts they got directly from the books and adapted from it, and made me and my friends get all hyped for the movie and it was even worse than the first T-T
Nooooooo they really did that?
@@ShamaD274 yes they did, the trailers were more thought out than the movie, showing only the things that happen in the books, so my friends and I were so happy until we actually watched it
@@aliendonnie Im not gonna lie I went to go watch the trailer cuz you said this and in the first minute alone it barely followed the book at all. Im confused
@davidjames8331 it was what I remember at the time, being excited for the movie because of the trailers, I'm sorry if it wasn't perfect
I remember after watching the first movie and not liking the second I bought the 2nd book with my Christmas money and was so confused about the plot and references I had to rent the 1st book from the library to even understand as the movie took so much out
I have searched the earth, looked far and wide, adventured so far, and yet I still cannot find something that makes me as angry as these f*cking movies.
Literally just reread the books and I'm like wait a second.... They just did nothing. I'm just sooo sooo Soo upset
Then you’re pathetic
The movie that shall not be named unless you want a trip to Lake Loagi
I wouldn’t say they are terrible there’s worse movies
@@christinanicholas7716huh, lake Laogai. That name sounds so familiar. I can't remember what it is, I just remember going there after mentioning some other movie adaptation of a beloved franchise that doesn't exist
11:30
I bet in the book they actually used Hermes (the logistics company), but UPS paid more for the placement.
i absolutely ADORED these books as a kid. i was excited for the movies and i was so disappointed. i literally was angry for a week about it. then when the second one came out i gave it chance and it turned it immediately off by the end of the first act- it was even worse. a part of me died a little bit
They were so confident in this movies success they forgot people see through fan service 😂
Don't read my name...
And I would have to ask where that confidence came from considering the extreme ho-hum reaction from the general audience and outright hatred from fans the first movie got
They forgor💀 (I’m sorry)
there was a fan service?
There was exactly 0 fans services by this movie though
IMO, I’m so glad they’re making a series out of the pjo books with Rick ACTUALLY being in charge. The books were too long to fit in a couple of movies (same with Harry Potter) and the studio glossed over most of the background info for the plot, so things just get abruptly shoved in our faces and we just have to be like “huh, that makes perfect sense”
So the new series, is it another movie set or is it actually a show? I feel like only a show could be the solution to the problem of fitting that much background and context into a film.
@@konstantinosp-a6447 I hear the first episode is going to be available on Hulu too.
@@septemily it’s actually a show. It’s airing on Disney+.
I wholeheartedly agree. I've waited SO LONG for this wrong to be righted. One thing that HP did that PJO didn't do was involve the author in the making of the movies. Rick HAS to be involved in the remake for it to go well, and be as accurate as possible. That's why though many HP fans were disappointed when the movies missed things out, they can still enjoy them, because J.K. could never allow the filmmakers to butcher characters and cut out important parts of the story. I'm so glad she was as involved as she was in those movies, imagine how bad they could've been if she didn't hold that much control. I hope the PJO remake can fix this.
No. Harry Potter was fine
Making the centaur into a rocking horse in your recap animation was hilarious to me 😆
"Don't walk on my roof!" Has to be the single best oneliner in this whole franchise 💪
I love how so many of the problems these movies have only exist because of them not following the books and changing things that don't need to be changed or just straight up ignoring important parts. Course, not all of the problems stem from them changing things from the books,but most of them do.
And the fact that they also fuck up the origin story of the gods and titans and actually show it like how zeus was a good guy was infuriating
Zeus was better than Kronos- eating one wife is better than eating six kids, that’s just math
😂😂😂@@runeanonymous9760
They also call Zeus one of the "elder gods" despite Zeus being the youngest of his siblings.
@@runeanonymous9760he actually inhaled his wife so even better!
this and persephone being in the underworld during the SUMMER really highlights their continual lack of research for even the most basic things
6:13 CG-Eye? 😂 😂
5:16 I think Tower of God sums this up perfectly:
"What you need most [story stuff] is luck. The luck to be born with exceptional brains or brawn. The luck to be blessed with wealth or good friends. You made it this far because of your luck." - Lero Ro
One of the weirdest parts about this movie is that they tried to end the story for the films here, bringing in the prophecy from near the end of the book series and having them fight and defeat Chronos, but they also tried to leave it open for a sequel.
The whole thing about the prophecy is actually good in the books because by the time it’s announced in the books, there isn’t a real answer of who it’s about until the end
And it fucked up the chance to adapt Heroes of Olympus, the sequel books.
First film: Trying to adapt the first book, keeping many themes from the book, still not a good film, but they tried.
Second film: Named after the second book, takes random shit from all the others, skips to Kronos being revived, has no tension, then Kronos dies in 5 minutes.
Personally I don't even think they tried that hard in the first one
I was so annoyed at how easily kronos was defeated in the movie?? How did that make any sense??
The most accurate part of this movie is the title, and that's still inaccurate.
@@va4lent IKR, didn't it take all of the big three to do it before? And here is Percy with presumably about 1/6 the godly power of them.
nah, they didn't even try with the first one
Yup, the barrier thing was very new. That was why so many of the half gods died. They died all the time, the camp was sort of a way to train them as well as having safety in numbers.
@12:12 Wait till Alex finds out that Amazon is a cash front for the Amazonians...
"Sometimes I think my dads pregnant." "Government's using 5G to control our minds" 😂😂
Seriously, the actors weren't the problem. They did a good job, the writing and storylines were just terrible, they should have done a 3rd with better writing.
Yeah, they should bring in this cast for cameos, or bigger roles in the series, especially the actress for Thalia.
The first movie came out on my birthday, I was incredibly hyped to see it because at that point we had already gotten all 5 original PJO books, so a movie adaptation just made so much sense. I will never recover from experiencing that movie the first time
your animation is getting better and better everyday!! so smooth!
What’s kind of hilarious is how the movie writers basically wrote themselves into a corner making the main cast just…suddenly 15 years old…because a huge plot of the entire book series is the prophecy that’s suppose to come true when Percy turned 17. Which should have been in like, books 4 or 5 or whatever but because they automatically made him 15 in first one they had to move up the story several years all at once
They deliberately aged the characters up because they thought audiences wouldn’t follow a young protagonist. Like somehow they forgot Harry Potter existed.
in the films i think the prophecy states percy will be 20..... it was obviously done to hit with the late-teen audiences because apparently whose gonna watch a film about 12 year olds
Actually in the books, the prophecy says "A child of the eldest gods, shall reach 16 against all odds". He turns 16 at the very end of The Last Olympian, right before the final confrontation with Luke.
The funniest thing is that on every bookcover of PJ it’s written “Now a Major Film” when in reality there are only 2 movies. I used to think that the internet was hiding the other 3 movies from me.😂
What movies
I have the original hard covers of the Percy Jackson and the Olympians book set. :3 there is no movie…just praises/reviews for the books. 😇 I lost the collectors cards they came with though. 🥲
with Alex’s reactions to things that actually ARE accurate to the books, i’d be really curious what his thoughts would be if he actually read the series
13:19😂🐴❤I can’t stop laughing 🤣🤣🤣
“And shall reach 20 against all odds”????? Wait, did they really move the time line in the movies by 4 years?!?
also if they did move up the plot by 4 years already, why 20? why not 21 or 18 or something, nothing special even happens at 20.
Don’t forget them changing the ominous line “the hero’s soul cursed blade shall reap” to “the EVIL’S soul cursed blade shall reap” which completely eliminates the tension and fear Percy has about confronting his destiny thinking he’s gonna die.
They kind of had to - the characters are 16 in the first movie (at least I'm guessing they are, since Annebeth drives a car and the others don't question it).
@@roguebarbarian9133Even tho the characters' ages in the books are actually 12 :')
I remember when I first watched this movie I was always thinking: 'So if they need the fleece from the Sea of Monsters why wouldn't they take Percy, he has water powers? Why would they take the daughter of Ares instead? Are these people stupid or something? Couldn't he just ask his father nicely to get the fleece for him or at least tell the monsters to stand down? Poseidon is very protective of his children in mythology, he made Odysseus' journey last ten more years because he hurt Polyphemus'
All explained so much better in the book
Even in the books the gods were kind of selective in when they gave a shit about their kids and Poseidon was pissed at Odysseus way before Polyphemus.
In the books chiron has to go due to zeus being mad about thalias tree being poisoned. He is replaced by tantalus (yes THAT tantalus) and he just hates everyone because ya know he has been tortured for millenia but hates percy more due to him being persassy. Clarisse is also expected to go because ares wants her to prove herself so in the end she goes. Chiron comes back with the party ponies (chaotic party hippie centaurs) and helps percy escape when luke tries to get the fleece. then tantalus is replaced by chiron again. those are just some of the things I have time to pick up on.
there are over 30 books in the riordanverse
you need to have read about 20 of the main ones to understand the lore of all this stuff (and have a basic understanding on the structure of the ancient greeks and romans)
@@MrDoggoCraft the last one is cap. you really only need to read the pjo to understand how greek gods work, maybe hoo for better understanding of greek and roman gods but this is only 10 books(toa is also great and expands greek gods but you dont neeed it to undersand it)
The inaccuracies to both the books & Greek myth in these movies is horrific
Fun fact:in the books the climbing wall was dripping literal lava
The way that Alex didn't even mention Annabeth's hair color change bc it mattered about as much as Annabeth herself mattered in the movie lol. I am so ready for the new series and really hope it lives up to the hype!
He hasn't read the books, so he didn't know the significance of that. But I disagree about that being important. It doesn't matter what she looks like if her character is written so dumbly
"We need to find a legendary artifact!"
"Let's send teenagers!"
"We have whole armies, spies, specialist heroes."
"No. I think we send teenagers."
15:45 that ain't dyslexia. That's schizophrenia
Actual 😭
Yep
Oh Alex, I could tell write a several paragraphs long essay about all the plot points from the movie, and what they were actually like in the book but it would take me hours to do so 😭 That being said, the whole thing with Hermes running UPS maybe isn't canon in the books but he still is a messenger there. He IS the messenger god after all. But it's essentially what Rick did: he took the old myths and put them in a modern setting. Hence why the Sea of Monsters was the Bermuda triangle etc.
Also Percy does instinctively know his bearings on the ocean. He can tell you where he is, like reading a map, but he doesn't see latitudes and longitudes or coordinates or anything like that. It's just a instinct more or less.
One of the many things that they broke in the lore for the movie is that Tyson could get through the barrier. In the movie they explain it away by saying he’s a son of Poseidon. That’s fine, except there’s a problem- ALMOST EVERY MONSTER IS A CHILD OF SOME SORT OF GOD. THOSE CYCLOPS THAT KILLED TALIA WERE SONS OF POSEIDON. In the book, he was a monster therefore HE COULD NOT GET THROUGH THE BARRIER. Annabeth had to say “YO BARRIER I ALLOW TYSON TO GET THROUGH”. And that’s how he got in.
Not to mention the fucking mist in a can to cover up that they didn’t have anything veiling anything AT ALL IN THE FIRST MOVIE. which also makes a PLOT HOLE IN A PLOT HOLE- because there’s the 100 armed guy in the coffee shop and he theoretically has to use tons of it, even though it’s stated to be INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE AND RARE.
HOW DO YOU FUCK UP THIS BADLY.
FR 😭 it was my fav book series
It’s crazy that for the longest time, I never knew there was a sequel. I would always see the first one consistently replayed on various tv channels.
Don't read my name...
The literal only reason I cared enough to watch this movie was hearing that Nathan Fillion was in it.
I remember seeing so many advertisements of the first movie, but saw zero for the sequel…
@@alysssabear that’s probably how bad the movie was. It’s the same thing for the Nicolas Cage Ghost Rider sequel Sony did. I never knew that existed. I’ve always seen the first one re-air so many times on different networks especially on FX channel I think. Most people have seen it at some point.
In the books the gods change looks a lot more.
Hermes is the messenger of the gods
Sometimes he is in robes, with his caduceus - complete with talking snakes (george and martha).
Sometimes a delivery person and his caduceus is a mobile phone form, with george and martha wrapped around the antenna.
And various other looks.
Fun fact: Prophecies were actually a very big part of the books, just like in Greek Mythology. However, I think they were handled in a much better way then this movie
I read these books and the worst thing is... the movies stopped before they actually became their own thing. The first three books were basically Harry Potter... but then the series took a turn and really became something else. I'd argue the last book is a better wrap up to the story than Harry Potter had, at least.
The last book you mean in Trails of Apollo or the new one with the trio in college?
Why do you say that? I thought HP was wrapped up pretty well, although I think Harry would have been better with Hermione.
@@littlesparrow303 they're talking about Percy Jackson & the Olympians series, not whole universe
@caseycampbell4787 perhaps but if you read the Percy jackson series that last book handles that wrap up better. In my opinion znyway.
@littlesparrow303 trials of Apollo and that battle of new York.
The fact that they literally have use half the movie to establish what actually happened in the book is something. Like the actual overarching plot of this series is nowhere in the first movie
You mentioned how the story feels somewhat disjointed (four different storylines wrapped up in one movie), which is actually one of the few things that's kind of true to the book. It's a middle grade book that works best as a series of bedtime stories. Each chapter is a mini arc where Percy &co encounter a figure from Greek mythology while on a quest to accomplish the overarching goal. This is also why I have a lot more faith in the television series that's coming out soon, because that format just lends itself to the story way better than a movie ever could
Comparing these two movies to Harry Potter. I noticed the HP movies were quite a bit longer than the PJ ones and it shows. HP made the time to include small but important plot details, flashbacks, and little conversations between characters that gave them more depth. Sea of Monsters lacked so much substance. There was a whole backstory with Annabeth, Luke, and Thalia and all we got was a brief explanation of it in the very beginning. And I wish they had just made the movie the way it was supposed to be instead of throwing in Kronos at the end bc they knew they weren't getting a sequel.
This Title is so accurate. The movie goes wayyy off the book
Don't read my name...
9:29 That is genuinely a Great Effect. It starts like glass then turns gelatinous and then it's plastic wrap.
It's oddly satisfying to watch.
looks more like a spider web than it does plastic wrap. But I agree. It is a great effect
They never went to a UPS store in the books, who knows why it was included in the movie. In the Hero's of Olympus series however they end up going to an amazon warehouse because that is where the amazons (a tribe of female warriors) base is.
This was very fun to watch, thank you for a great content ❤
My favorite line (because it completely encapsulates my feelings on this film in its entirety) is when they get on the roller coaster, it drives them into the cave, and then it just ends.
Tyson: Huh...... I thought that would be more fun.
Yeah, so did I Tyson.
In 6 days we will be getting the new season that was being written by the author himself 😂😂😂 and we can leave this monstrosity behind finally 😅
Edit:switched director to writer.
Yes man finally 😭
YAAAAAAAYY 😊
Don't read my name...
But like the character designs kinda bug me?
Oh shit it is directed by rick himself damnn
You may be shocked that Luke has a yacht, in the book he has a whole fricking cruise ship!! 13:09
The grip that these books had on me growing up was unmatched!
Forgot the seeing the map lines thing. The book at least just had him know where he was instinctively
10:05, why are they making an announcement about a mission to save everyone's lives like a coworker who got picked to go to a conference?
btw the books explain it better but essentially it's greek gods transferred onto modern US
8:14 that was allot of the charm for the books when I was a kid. Like the story took itself seriously just enough to stay interesting but would constantly try to make the huge, omnipotent, world shattering characters as mundane as they possibly could.
these movies changed so much like the fact that they aged all the characters makes it kinda less scary bc there all like 13 in the second book this makes everything they do terrifying also Tyson is like physically 13 but mentally like 6-7 bc hes a cyclops and they age slower and it makes his character so much more endearing
I adore your animated guy!! His movements are everything - keep it up
Dang Alex stepping up his animation game. We see you buddy, bravo👏🏻
PJO Fans:
*what movies?! i don't see no movies!*
There are no pjo movies in ba sing se
You didn't even talk about my favorite part. When Luke resurrects Kronos and Kronos immediately swallows him whole. I totally saw it coming a mile away, but it was still hilarious.
It's so amazing how much Alex's animation has improved it's so cool ❤️
They never get swallowed by Charybdis, they would be dead. It's actually Clarisse they meet at Chesapeake beach, and they ride with her down to the sea of monsters.
Fun fact about the PJ series reboot. It literally happened because of the fans. Like, the fans, totally unbeknownst to the author organised together to get Percy Jackson trending so loudly to ask for it to be made after Disney bought Fox that it got noticed and actually got greenlit.
Also fun fact, Rick Riordan read the script for the first movie and hated it so much that he offered to re-write it for free and told the studio that he couldn't have wrote a worse adaptation if he tried. Fingers crossed the show is good and actually explains the mechanisms and keeps the myth and lore accurate to actual Greek myth and book lore!
thats so cool percy jackson has such a great fanbase
What really gets me with the prophecy scene is they even mess up the myth of the greek gods. Kronos devoured nearly all his children except for Zeus cause Rhea kept him hidden. When Zeus grew up he freed his siblings and they fought Kronos together.
They just completely ignored who fought against Kronos.
Kronos fight in a nutshell:
Kronos: I WILL DESTROY THE WORLD
Percy: Take that! *soft punch*
Kronos: Understandable, have a great day
Fun fact from a guy who read the books multiple times - This movie combines elements of books 2 and 4 with just a bit of 3.
“Hello Clarice. Well, Clarice…
have the lambs stopped screaming?”
14:06 the only good line in that movie I laugh so hard every time i hear it
One of my most I’m not proud of moments as a teen was stealing the final book in the series from my local library that’s was so nice 😢😂
17:14 We love some good Disney drag 🔥
17:08 It was around here!