Yeh I’ve been calling the Sigenergy Mobile number for Australia. No reply. Also, they’ve been in business for about 5 minutes right? That concerns me - especially when it comes to batteries. But - yeh Im looking into it because seems they are getting a lot of traction.
@@mcelectrical A business has gotta start somewhere right? 😄 Would recommend reaching out via email on their online form on the global page. I got a response within 2 days and details of local installers.
I think the issue of the flood protection is that it uses a passive radiator fin design, but there's also 2 big fans up the top to pull air across from below. It'll be interesting to see how it goes in 40'c, 50'c summer with derating and charging rates with the inbuilt battery, that is. if the PW stats allow pulling that temperature data from the Tesla Fleet APIs alongside the solar inverter MPPT's current/voltage levels to see if it's throttling power delivery in summer.
How does PW3 compare to this new Sigenergy system. I heard that PW3 is really only suited for single phase houses, where as the Sigenergy is much better. Can you do a comparison?
I think the Sigenergy has a DC-DC option. If you want to be able to use your car to charge your home battery, nothing else is even close. If you want whole home backup and charge on solar, the Powerwall 3 is really incredible. I don't live in Australia, but I understand that going solar can be mostly free because of the incentives. DC has to be turned to AC at some point to power your house, and I think the Powerwall is the best option for nearly all homeowners.
Just letting you know I’m working on an answer to this. I’ve been calling the one mobile number on the Australian website. But i kind or am interested in the hype. They came from Huaweia right!? That’s a great start. I’ll let you know my thoughts we I’m better informed
The problem is I can buy DEYE Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries with 8000 cycle Lithium Iron Phosphate cells which come in at $2000 for 14KW not Lithium Ion which comes in at 3000 cycles and with an IP 65 inverter from the same company 12KW it will cost me less than $4000 compared to Tesla which costs $11000 and Lithium Ion cells which don't compare to LFP cells
Yeah, this price is ridiculous, I just got 15kwh Seplos kit for 1500GBP here, not ip rated with case I have, but cmon... I have ROI with it around 2y, with Tesla power wall is like 15, especially considering Tesla does not sell them directly and it should be installed by "professional" which adds another few grounds on top. Don't get me wrong, PW3 is fantastic product with its sw integrations and quality, but it is just doesn't make much financial sense.
Yeh you could get batteries cheaper. But package it up with a 10kW string inverter, BMS, functional app, vpp, warranty, reliability, safety, compliance with standards and grid requirements, and throw in a professional install, then you start to see the cost difference. A diy battery would likely be dangerous, but even if it wasn’t, it would be non- compliant.
I own a similar cheap LFP module, their BMS are often defective/fragile. I'm in the process of replacing this battery with another cheap one lol. Tesla PWs can outlast them a lot.
So i have a 6.6kw solar panel and 5kw inverter right now. If i wanted to install a power wall 3 what would be the course of action? Remove my old inverter? Can't install power wall 3 and have to to power wall 2?
You can remove your old inverter and install a Powerwall 3. It would most likely be easy to add on new panels if you had roof space. It’s not the most economical way to add a battery, but it would work well.
Looking forward to the follow-up. I would like to go the pw3, to go with the 3 ph Tesla charger & house, & car. I don't mind if two faces can't be backed up ATM. But I do want to be able to export rapidly into the Amber wholesale Market to maximise feed in tariffs.
It would work great, but you would be buying the solar inverter in the pw3 for no reason. For Enphase, try and get a Tesla Powerwall 2 before they are all sold out ( like, next week)
No worries. They will release a 3 phase PW3 in the future, and they will keep the single phase PW3. It’s all about the solar inverter within the battery. Not that silly a question considering many EV chargers can work on single or three phase, but that’s not the case with inverters.
Has Tesla indicated when a 3 phase version will be released? I have a 20kw snap inverter which i want to change to a hybrid but the gen24s are still limited to 10kW. This Tesla PW3 would be a great replacement if it was 3 phase.
Great Video guys. I have single phase power and use a (dont hate me) GoodWe GW6000-ES-20 inverter combined with 7.96kw solar system. Would this Tesla powerwall 3 work with said inverter or best to stick with GoodWe Lynx batteries?
Ha, Goodwe is ok. Probably in my list of top 5. But, yeh, don’t go with a goodwe batrery. Replace it with a Powerwall and maybe upgrade your solar at the same time.
Just watched this one with interest. I live in Victoria and we have been quoted $5,500 more to go with the Tesla Powerwall 3 compared with the Fronius Hybrid inverter & BYD 11kWh battery from the same company. Also that the Powerwall 3 battery must be mounted inside the garage next to the Tesla Powerwall 3 (1P 10KW Inverter) & Backup Gateway 2. Everything I watch says the Tesla should be cheaper? I’m confused.
@@mcelectrical Thanks for the reply. They are an Australia wide company & thier site says Tesla Certified Installer ( & Premium Installer) so I guess that means accredited?
Ok, the pricing is odd. I’d generally steer away from Australia wide installers - because you’d more than likely end up with Subcontractors. Look for someone local and I think you’ll get a more realistic price.
That much price difference is odd as Fronius and BYD is quite costly themselves! Cheaper or atleast on par there and there about should be ideal price. Unless we're talking about 3Phase Installation etc
Excellent, thanks Mark and Ben. Can't stomach buying a product made by a company currently run by such an odious individual. Hopefully plunging EV Sales worldwide will see a new CEO in a year or two, and the Tesla brand will be less on the nose. PW3 looks excellent for single phase. Will the yanks, who don't use three phase on residential, design a three phase PW3 just for us and the Europeans. We shall see. Can't be that hard if you can return a rocket booster to the launch pad and catch it with a pair of tongs. Musk is bonkers but many geniuses have been and they were just as unpleasant individuals by all account.
An individuals political views are their own. Don't be a snowflake and get sensitive about who he votes for? What is it that the current government has done in the USA that you can be so proud of?
It's a shame it's only single phase. I have 14kW solar, a basic Sungrow inverter on 3ph, and a PHEV. Being in FNQ and coming into the storm and cyclone season I am starting to look more seriously again. But I would struggle with owning 'Tesla' based solely on the Elon factor.
So the Tesla Powerwall 3 ist just 1phase 4,6 kW Inverter with 13,5 kWh Battery? For the prices i found you could get a simular or better Fronius + BYD System. Also i wonder what happens when somthing breaks after warranty - do you need to buy a new Powerwall?
It’s a 10kw single phase inverter. It’s similar to the Fronius BYD cost, but the BYD solution is probably a bit more difficult to install, so total cost might be a bit more from BYD. But the features of the PW3 are significantly better - eg the user interface, discharge capability, footprint, flood proof, all in one warranty etc. That a good point, if it fails outside of 10 year warranty, then you may need buy a new one if not repairable.
Tesla doesn't make good inverters. I've got a PW2 and a Fronius Gen 24 inverter and while connected to the grid they're fine as the grid keeps the sinewave clean. However, when running off-grid, the Fronius puts out the cleanest sinewave you'll ever see, but when the sun sets and the PW kicks in, it's a jagged looking sinewave and my TV doesn't like it.
@@mcelectrical Yes, I've got a graphical multimeter which also has an oscilloscope feature. The PW output isn't very smooth, you can make out steps in the wave, which isn't present in better quality inverters.
@@Kiwigeo8339 I only have a problem with one TV, everything else runs fine. Anyway, it's only during an outage a night when there is no grid connection and it's running on the PW. For normal grid connected powering the house at night, it's fine.
We did Sungrow in the past, about 180 inverters from memory. I just found the failure rate and bugs too high compared to Fronius. I’ve also asked a several of people what they think about the Sungrow battery after installing a lot of them. Not all, but most said there were too many issues. Have you had the opposite experience with Sungrow?
@@mcelectrical I hope we will not make a bad experience with the new System from Sungrow (ordered). Due to the 180 Systems you mentioned, i think most of them were old SHXXRT and old SBR Battery series, not the new ones. Never heard about problems from users so far. If you want to stay in one ecosystem with all restrictions fronius is great, but we want to use "EVCC" or "CleverPV" EMS with a 3rd party Wallbox for way more options, customisation & home automatisation. And its a bummer if you have 20+kwp + 3 Strings on your roof and no suitable fronius hybrid inverter. If they had "bigger" Inverters maybe we would've chosen fronius. Do you have any tip/bugfix, regarding sungrow, which fixed most of the problems you encountered?
Yeh it is a bit of a pain that Fronius only currently has a 10kw Gen24. (Actually a 12kw coming soon) We often do a 10 and a 5kW inverter for our customers. Hopefully the new generation Sungrow works well for you! Or if not, I hope you chose the right installer who will support it.
We’ve installed about 170 Sungrow inverters. The failure rate and the tech issues we’ve had with them was too high, so we stopped selling them. I’ve also talk to a lot of guys in the industry that have had heaps of issues with the Sungrow battery. I don’t think it’s the worst solution out there, it’s just a long way from fronius /byd or Tesla.
Yeh, I’m not a fan of Sungrow anymore. From our experience, reliability of there inverters isn’t great. And although I haven’t installed their batteries, I’ve had several industry friends who install heaps of them tell me they have heaps of issues.
This new innovation by Tesla is outstanding, it will make other companies to come up with similar products with cheaper pricing in coming years. Pl make details video once you do install and testing Powerwall 3
Yes. Both important points. Single phase only, It works well in a blackout … but it is not yet a permanent off grid battery. I think that will change. Of grid is just a bigger liability for Tesla so they will give it a year in the wild before they endorse got off grid completely.
Tesla app is just not user/consumer friendly. You run it as Tesla wants and nothing else. Not sure about Aus markets but simple features like telling the system to export when rates are high - its not available. OR you have to switch your system over from Time of Use from Self Reliance and then back after you have exported the amount you wanted. BUT during that period on TOU it wont power your house. Basic, simple functions I would expect from any system.
@@markcavanagh I don't think you guys have GivEnergy equipment yet do you? Also Fronius should be going live with their Solar Forecast software soon and they also have API connection (same as GivEnergy) allowing for things like Home Assistant or other types of plugins to control batteries. Another very decent app/control interface is PowerOcean EcoFlow. SigEnergy is another that comes to min as having more control. Finally Anker Solix X1 would appear to be a copy of Tesla's App - based on what I have seen on paper at least.
Right! Seems you’ve looked into it! SigEnergy looks interesting. I’ll be looking into that next. No we don’t have Givenergy as far as I know. My problem with all these new batteries is exactly that. They are new. Batteries are not easy!
We did Sungrow inverters for many years. Sungrow went downhill when inverters went from hardware products to hardware and firmware (dynamic controls etc). We had far too many issues, so we dropped Sungrow. Now that they have brought on batteries, I’ve had a lot of installers tell me about multiple issues. I think when it comes to batteries, it’s much better to play it safe.
We were including the gateway. But we are talking about a “cost difference” between installing solar with a Fronius and installing solar with a Tesla. Take away the cost of the Fromius, add a bit more labour on materials on, and we’re at about $11k - at least in some situations
Would love if you could do a comparison video between the powerwall 3 and the sigenergy sigstor system next!
Sigenergy is better. Amazing development for renewables
Yeh I’ve been calling the Sigenergy Mobile number for Australia. No reply. Also, they’ve been in business for about 5 minutes right? That concerns me - especially when it comes to batteries. But - yeh Im looking into it because seems they are getting a lot of traction.
@@mcelectrical A business has gotta start somewhere right? 😄 Would recommend reaching out via email on their online form on the global page. I got a response within 2 days and details of local installers.
I think the issue of the flood protection is that it uses a passive radiator fin design, but there's also 2 big fans up the top to pull air across from below.
It'll be interesting to see how it goes in 40'c, 50'c summer with derating and charging rates with the inbuilt battery, that is. if the PW stats allow pulling that temperature data from the Tesla Fleet APIs alongside the solar inverter MPPT's current/voltage levels to see if it's throttling power delivery in summer.
How does PW3 compare to this new Sigenergy system. I heard that PW3 is really only suited for single phase houses, where as the Sigenergy is much better. Can you do a comparison?
I think the Sigenergy has a DC-DC option. If you want to be able to use your car to charge your home battery, nothing else is even close. If you want whole home backup and charge on solar, the Powerwall 3 is really incredible. I don't live in Australia, but I understand that going solar can be mostly free because of the incentives. DC has to be turned to AC at some point to power your house, and I think the Powerwall is the best option for nearly all homeowners.
Just letting you know I’m working on an answer to this. I’ve been calling the one mobile number on the Australian website. But i kind or am interested in the hype. They came from Huaweia right!? That’s a great start. I’ll let you know my thoughts we I’m better informed
The problem is I can buy DEYE Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries with 8000 cycle Lithium Iron Phosphate cells which come in at $2000 for 14KW not Lithium Ion which comes in at 3000 cycles and with an IP 65 inverter from the same company 12KW it will cost me less than $4000 compared to Tesla which costs $11000 and Lithium Ion cells which don't compare to LFP cells
Yeah, this price is ridiculous, I just got 15kwh Seplos kit for 1500GBP here, not ip rated with case I have, but cmon... I have ROI with it around 2y, with Tesla power wall is like 15, especially considering Tesla does not sell them directly and it should be installed by "professional" which adds another few grounds on top. Don't get me wrong, PW3 is fantastic product with its sw integrations and quality, but it is just doesn't make much financial sense.
Yeh you could get batteries cheaper. But package it up with a 10kW string inverter, BMS, functional app, vpp, warranty, reliability, safety, compliance with standards and grid requirements, and throw in a professional install, then you start to see the cost difference. A diy battery would likely be dangerous, but even if it wasn’t, it would be non- compliant.
I own a similar cheap LFP module, their BMS are often defective/fragile. I'm in the process of replacing this battery with another cheap one lol. Tesla PWs can outlast them a lot.
In WA it’s only 2c p/kw now
That’s why batteries are huge in WA!
So i have a 6.6kw solar panel and 5kw inverter right now.
If i wanted to install a power wall 3 what would be the course of action? Remove my old inverter? Can't install power wall 3 and have to to power wall 2?
You can remove your old inverter and install a Powerwall 3. It would most likely be easy to add on new panels if you had roof space. It’s not the most economical way to add a battery, but it would work well.
Looking forward to the follow-up.
I would like to go the pw3, to go with the 3 ph Tesla charger & house, & car.
I don't mind if two faces can't be backed up ATM.
But I do want to be able to export rapidly into the Amber wholesale Market to maximise feed in tariffs.
You’d be much better off going BYD /Fronius if you are 3 phase. Or waiting till Tesla bring out 3 phase - but that’s likely more than a year away.
Does the PW3 work with a Fronius? I have 2 inverters
Yes but no. It’s a waste of the Powerwall inverter. What type of Fromius do you have? The Gen24 or the Snap?
@ 2 x gen24s 13.1kw panels
how do you reckon this battery would go with an enphase micro-inverter system?
It would work great, but you would be buying the solar inverter in the pw3 for no reason. For Enphase, try and get a Tesla Powerwall 2 before they are all sold out ( like, next week)
@@mcelectrical Isn't limit on AC input to the PW3 lower than DC input? For ppl with large microinverter equipped PV system this could be an issue.
Yeh good point. I haven’t even considered the idea of AC Coupling the PW3. This would often be another good reason.
What do you mean PW3 is single phase "for now"?
I mean, it will also be 3 phase in the future. Give it more than 12 months.
So a new 3P model in the future or they will enable 3P on the PW3?
(Sorry for the noob questions)
No worries. They will release a 3 phase PW3 in the future, and they will keep the single phase PW3. It’s all about the solar inverter within the battery. Not that silly a question considering many EV chargers can work on single or three phase, but that’s not the case with inverters.
Has Tesla indicated when a 3 phase version will be released?
I have a 20kw snap inverter which i want to change to a hybrid but the gen24s are still limited to 10kW.
This Tesla PW3 would be a great replacement if it was 3 phase.
3 phase will come, my feeling is it’s about year away.
Great Video guys. I have single phase power and use a (dont hate me) GoodWe GW6000-ES-20 inverter combined with 7.96kw solar system. Would this Tesla powerwall 3 work with said inverter or best to stick with GoodWe Lynx batteries?
Ha, Goodwe is ok. Probably in my list of top 5. But, yeh, don’t go with a goodwe batrery. Replace it with a Powerwall and maybe upgrade your solar at the same time.
Just watched this one with interest.
I live in Victoria and we have been quoted $5,500 more to go with the Tesla Powerwall 3 compared with the Fronius Hybrid inverter & BYD 11kWh battery from the same company. Also that the Powerwall 3 battery must be mounted inside the garage next to the Tesla Powerwall 3 (1P 10KW Inverter) & Backup Gateway 2.
Everything I watch says the Tesla should be cheaper?
I’m confused.
Yeh that doesn’t add up. Maybe the same price for byd, but not $5500 less. Is the company Tesla accredited?
@@mcelectrical Thanks for the reply. They are an Australia wide company & thier site says Tesla Certified Installer ( & Premium Installer) so I guess that means accredited?
Ok, the pricing is odd. I’d generally steer away from Australia wide installers - because you’d more than likely end up with Subcontractors. Look for someone local and I think you’ll get a more realistic price.
That much price difference is odd as Fronius and BYD is quite costly themselves! Cheaper or atleast on par there and there about should be ideal price. Unless we're talking about 3Phase Installation etc
@@mcelectrical Australia wide, meaning they are a large company with local bases and installers. Been here for a long time.
Excellent, thanks Mark and Ben. Can't stomach buying a product made by a company currently run by such an odious individual. Hopefully plunging EV Sales worldwide will see a new CEO in a year or two, and the Tesla brand will be less on the nose. PW3 looks excellent for single phase. Will the yanks, who don't use three phase on residential, design a three phase PW3 just for us and the Europeans. We shall see. Can't be that hard if you can return a rocket booster to the launch pad and catch it with a pair of tongs. Musk is bonkers but many geniuses have been and they were just as unpleasant individuals by all account.
Yeh I don’t get his “dark maga” move. But I put that aside and look at the product. It’s just better.
Unfortunately Alternatives ain't that good either, Most of them being Chinese
BYD is pretty solid, but Chinese if that’s a concern. Watch this space for a Fronius battery!
An individuals political views are their own. Don't be a snowflake and get sensitive about who he votes for?
What is it that the current government has done in the USA that you can be so proud of?
It's a shame it's only single phase. I have 14kW solar, a basic Sungrow inverter on 3ph, and a PHEV. Being in FNQ and coming into the storm and cyclone season I am starting to look more seriously again. But I would struggle with owning 'Tesla' based solely on the Elon factor.
So the Tesla Powerwall 3 ist just 1phase 4,6 kW Inverter with 13,5 kWh Battery?
For the prices i found you could get a simular or better Fronius + BYD System.
Also i wonder what happens when somthing breaks after warranty - do you need to buy a new Powerwall?
It’s a 10kw single phase inverter. It’s similar to the Fronius BYD cost, but the BYD solution is probably a bit more difficult to install, so total cost might be a bit more from BYD. But the features of the PW3 are significantly better - eg the user interface, discharge capability, footprint, flood proof, all in one warranty etc.
That a good point, if it fails outside of 10 year warranty, then you may need buy a new one if not repairable.
The BYD batteries take 30sec to a minute to change over when the power fails. That is a fail as far as I'm concerned.
@@XxBloggs with current inverter firmware around 10 sec
@xxbloggs , If that’s a fail for you, then that’s fair. We each have our own needs. (I just think you are a bit precious) jokes :)
❤ has anyone got any research on their safety stats ??
Fire dept has to let them burn out..due to waterproofing😢
Tesla doesn't make good inverters. I've got a PW2 and a Fronius Gen 24 inverter and while connected to the grid they're fine as the grid keeps the sinewave clean. However, when running off-grid, the Fronius puts out the cleanest sinewave you'll ever see, but when the sun sets and the PW kicks in, it's a jagged looking sinewave and my TV doesn't like it.
Interesting! I’m assuming you are using an oscilloscope to measure this? I’ll have to check that out!
@@mcelectrical Yes, I've got a graphical multimeter which also has an oscilloscope feature. The PW output isn't very smooth, you can make out steps in the wave, which isn't present in better quality inverters.
I have three TVs in my house...and none of them have issues when the house is running on the battery.
@@Kiwigeo8339 I only have a problem with one TV, everything else runs fine. Anyway, it's only during an outage a night when there is no grid connection and it's running on the PW. For normal grid connected powering the house at night, it's fine.
Maybe they've done better job with Inverters in PW3 as it has an integrated inverter
Why the "no Sungrow System" joke? Did the new SHXXT + SBHXXX Kombination dissappoint you?
We did Sungrow in the past, about 180 inverters from memory. I just found the failure rate and bugs too high compared to Fronius. I’ve also asked a several of people what they think about the Sungrow battery after installing a lot of them. Not all, but most said there were too many issues. Have you had the opposite experience with Sungrow?
@@mcelectrical I hope we will not make a bad experience with the new System from Sungrow (ordered). Due to the 180 Systems you mentioned, i think most of them were old SHXXRT and old SBR Battery series, not the new ones. Never heard about problems from users so far. If you want to stay in one ecosystem with all restrictions fronius is great, but we want to use "EVCC" or "CleverPV" EMS with a 3rd party Wallbox for way more options, customisation & home automatisation. And its a bummer if you have 20+kwp + 3 Strings on your roof and no suitable fronius hybrid inverter. If they had "bigger" Inverters maybe we would've chosen fronius. Do you have any tip/bugfix, regarding sungrow, which fixed most of the problems you encountered?
Yeh it is a bit of a pain that Fronius only currently has a 10kw Gen24. (Actually a 12kw coming soon) We often do a 10 and a 5kW inverter for our customers. Hopefully the new generation Sungrow works well for you! Or if not, I hope you chose the right installer who will support it.
Why not sungrow sungrow
We’ve installed about 170 Sungrow inverters. The failure rate and the tech issues we’ve had with them was too high, so we stopped selling them. I’ve also talk to a lot of guys in the industry that have had heaps of issues with the Sungrow battery. I don’t think it’s the worst solution out there, it’s just a long way from fronius /byd or Tesla.
@@mcelectrical cheers, I'll see how I go.
Wowi !!! and now change the outlets ?
...and the roof???
and the ev charger $
4 sureim iver 50 k now !!!!😢
Not really, 19.2kw sungrow battery 13kw solar panel, 10kw hybrid sungrow = 22k
Just curious where you found that deal/price? I'm doing a new house build and that's what I would like.
Yeh, I’m not a fan of Sungrow anymore. From our experience, reliability of there inverters isn’t great. And although I haven’t installed their batteries, I’ve had several industry friends who install heaps of them tell me they have heaps of issues.
G@@garygreen5278
@garygreen5278 just realise you can when negotiating. Just paid any running for 2 week.
@@mcelectricalsee how I go..
This new innovation by Tesla is outstanding, it will make other companies to come up with similar products with cheaper pricing in coming years. Pl make details video once you do install and testing Powerwall 3
The testing will start soon. It will be interesting!
just like the cars
I just quoted 17k for a Tesla powerwall 3
What a piss take
Unsure who is taking the piss. Did you get a solar install with that? Details on the solar?
Hoping I can sell the PW3 here in California soon
Why can’t you? I thought it was released in the USA 12 months ago.
why? power companies won't give you credit to zero put...so what have u gained for 40, 000 ?🎉
Single phase AND you sill have to be grid connected
Yes. Both important points. Single phase only, It works well in a blackout … but it is not yet a permanent off grid battery. I think that will change. Of grid is just a bigger liability for Tesla so they will give it a year in the wild before they endorse got off grid completely.
@@mcelectrical thanks for your review/insights--valuable and appreciated
Thanks for your comments!
Tesla app is just not user/consumer friendly.
You run it as Tesla wants and nothing else.
Not sure about Aus markets but simple features like telling the system to export when rates are high - its not available. OR you have to switch your system over from Time of Use from Self Reliance and then back after you have exported the amount you wanted. BUT during that period on TOU it wont power your house.
Basic, simple functions I would expect from any system.
It might not do everything, but from all reports lts a lot better than the every other battery user interface.
@@markcavanagh I don't think you guys have GivEnergy equipment yet do you?
Also Fronius should be going live with their Solar Forecast software soon and they also have API connection (same as GivEnergy) allowing for things like Home Assistant or other types of plugins to control batteries.
Another very decent app/control interface is PowerOcean EcoFlow.
SigEnergy is another that comes to min as having more control.
Finally Anker Solix X1 would appear to be a copy of Tesla's App - based on what I have seen on paper at least.
Right! Seems you’ve looked into it! SigEnergy looks interesting. I’ll be looking into that next. No we don’t have Givenergy as far as I know. My problem with all these new batteries is exactly that. They are new. Batteries are not easy!
Why the no to sun grow?
We did Sungrow inverters for many years. Sungrow went downhill when inverters went from hardware products to hardware and firmware (dynamic controls etc). We had far too many issues, so we dropped Sungrow. Now that they have brought on batteries, I’ve had a lot of installers tell me about multiple issues. I think when it comes to batteries, it’s much better to play it safe.
One powerwall isn't enough.
I like the way you think :)
You need the gateway so the total cost is about $13k
We were including the gateway. But we are talking about a “cost difference” between installing solar with a Fronius and installing solar with a Tesla. Take away the cost of the Fromius, add a bit more labour on materials on, and we’re at about $11k - at least in some situations
How long before Fronius & BYD become " all in one " will the Austrians sell😂
The real question is, how long till fronius has a battery!
@@mcelectrical they had one a while back😂
It’s coming back soon! 🤐