I love how this season celebrated Daniel being the hero who will fight for everyone and how it took time reminding us of that. Like the ex bullies bragging about his feats, all the way up to Daniel once again being the one to defeat the final boss. And tying in karate kid 3 for full circle in that final fight. Masterful !
This was the best season and I was glad to see Robby, Miguel and Hawk becoming friends and it was nice to see Tory and Sam fighting together against Sensei Kim and so many characters had a great story arc.
Easily the best season for me as well, it builds from all the seasons before it and gives each character their completion arc and now sets up a likely final season where they fight at their full potential.
I thought the finale was fantastic for so many reasons. For one, it was cool to see literally all 3 movie bullies teaming up to fight Silver's allies while on Danny' s side, and every fight was awesome. Chozen vs. Silver was particularly brutal which I didn't expect, and I was legitimately scared for Johnny until of course the baby picture came out and he just went beast mode, then got rescued by Barnes which was great. And It's nice Robby and Miguel and Tory and Sam have resolved their rivalries. Overall I was definitely hoping to see more of Kreese but I loved his storyline despite how short it was. I was kinda hoping he'd be around to see the downfall of Silver and maybe even fight/kill him though I doubt he'd actually kill him since this show has never crossed that line.
Nearly everything you said is true and mostly why i love this season as a whole, 1 thing I criticize though, is I felt like mike didn't have enough screen time, he was in 1 episode, then in episode 10 went off to fight silver and gets knocked out immediately, and only comes back at the last moment. besides that there is one scene after that, and it isn't even about him.
@@OrangeFantaKid Agreed, Mike could’ve been used more but there were some pacing issues in this season partially because it was getting too big for it’s own good.
I mean everyone is happy but he's a literal billionaire with unlimited resources fighting an assault charge. He still owns all these locations, he's still in the tournament and he could easily find new fighters. He could bounce back pretty quickly
One thing that Cobra Kai does well is making us care about both the original cast from the movies and the new cast (the next generation). When continuations/reboots occur, you typically get new characters but very really care about them, but not Cobra Kai. Another thing is that despite the large cast of characters, Cobra Kai managed to find balance in giving everyone a decent amount of screentime to develop. Characters like Hawk and Demetri take a backseat this season, but it's ultimately because their stories are practically completed in a way, Hawk and Demetri have conquered their demons, unless greater demons emerge in the future. Sam and Tory have had some shakey moments on both sides from Season 2 - 4 in writing. However, Season 5 managed to bring the best aspects of both characters, I may not be a big fan of Samantha LaRusso, but it was satisfying to see the pay off for her character as well as Tory. Miguel and Robby are my favorite characters, and seeing Johnny, Miguel, and Robby embrace each other over getting a new addition to the family almost brought a tear to my eye. It was especially satisfying seeing Robby control his emotions on the stairs this time. Keep in mind, this is after Robby joined Cobra Kai and had to unlearn the dark lessons of his Sensei's from his head, which makes his restraint even more satisfying. I could go on and on about every single character but this comment is already so long lol.
I don't even understand the Mexico storyline nothing even changes. In episode 9 I thought his dad was driving the limo and was gonna be the s*** out of Johnny, because the dad might have seen them together and would follow them.
Another brilliant stroke of genius was Kreese’s breakthrough session where he confronts all of those from his past. This is like a “where did that come from” moment that you eventually thinking “ah yeah I get it now.” And having him go to young Kreese for his fight was awesome on a new level
Is anyone else disappointed in how underused the character of Mike Barnes was? For me he was one of the best characters from the original trilogy. He's a great actor and very convincing martial artist who always looked like he could hold his own in a real fight. After the furniture store episode I was just waiting for him to show back up, then when he finally did, he gets sucker punched out cold. Then when Johnny is getting his ass kicked, I was like any minute now the karate bad boy is going to clean house to save the day, only for Johnny to turn super saiyan and practically do it himself. I just hope we see more of Barnes in the next season and actually see him show off his karate!
Yes i am disappointed too. But i had a gutfeeling it would be like that. I wrote it here on YT many times, some agreed, others not. The reason was Sean Kanans work on The Bolt And The Beautiful soap opera. Its a daily show and he must be on set almost all the time. So he simply didnt have much time to film Cobra Kai. I hope in S6 the writers from TBATB give him more free time. They could write it like his character takes a vacation or so.
@@chrisbach1533 glad it wasn't just me. I know a lot of people discard the third film, which is why alot of people probably weren't that bothered, but I'm very fond of it and always have been. Mike and silver were great in it! I too hope they use mike more in the next season and it will be great if they do more flash backs to the third film too!
@smithboyv1, yes i agree. The writers Jon, Josh and Hayden should contact the producers of TBATB very soon. Like i said there are always ways to give a character an off time. His character Deacon Sharpe (funny name :D) could simply take a vacation for some weeks, which would give Sean more time for Cobra Kai. I am sure the writers from TBATB could arrange that. I mean i am not a writer, but i am positive i could find a way to let Sharpe dissapear for a time, a vacation or so is always possible since even in the real world people take vacations.
I thought there were hints of Terry Silver being terminally ill. His visitation to the hospital, talking with Johnny and Carmen about the precious time that we have and telling Chosen that he is "not afraid to die" while constantly talking about his legacy in the final 2 episodes
oh wow, brilliant observation. That is probably why the actor Thomas Ian Griffith cuts his hair, he likely dies whether in jail or not, but early in the next season. He was also seen taking meds in season 4 I believe, although the speculation at the time was that the meds were suppose to control his psychopathic behaviour or something
I think you're right on that because maybe he will use this to his advantage saying that hes terminate terminally ill and needs to be treated at a hospital
Both of you had good observations cause this is what I had considered too why was he at the hospital he wouldn't just trail Johnny to hospital just to engage in meaningless conversation
@@certifiedlovercollection i think the idea of him being ill (if even true) is relatively fresh. S4 meds were probably written for the idea of mental state. But they can always retcon.
I'm now wondering if other writers ignore this show because it makes them look bad. This show is everything they need to achieve (on one third the normal budget), but it's ingredients are things that many writers have ideological opposition to. POC characters defined by actions and not skin colour? Check. Badass karate fights that aren't CGI/totally one sided? Check. But most importantly, this show loves its own lore, loves its own past, and loves its own fans. This is the direct opposite of the modern reboot playbook which openly despises its own property and fans.
It was a great season finale because it was a way for Daniel to put down his demons from the past when he took down Terry using the Quicksilver method while using Miyagi-Do technique. Chozen’s development and growth was amazing, Johnny’s fatherly instincts showed even more so, Miguel and Robbie were able to bury the hatchet after letting out their anger in that match; and San was able to finally see what Tory was going through after hearing the truth about the Referee bribery and Devon found a new female role model in Tory
I was a tad bit sad that Kreese didn't actually start to change himself for the better, but hatching an escape plan all along. But on the other hand, it's such a Kreese move 😁
His season was a little unexpected. They (intentionally?) skipped his trial altogether. But, I have to think that Kreese feels like a victim, and that is his overwhelming motivation. He is in survival mode just like in Vietman.
It's funny. I felt Kreese did change. His feelings about Johnny were real. His therapist told him it's not to late to change. He did. He also knew he was set up. He wasn't going to accept prison. He escaped having fought his demons and was finally free. He is redeemed at the end. A terrific way to end season 5. Kreese is a better man. Amazing the peace he feels now.
Kreese is a survivor! They have touched on that theme the whole series. I felt they underplayed him a bit, but it was subtle and actually works for his character. I am not truly convinced he is nearly the monster he was painted as (Silver is the ultimate psychopathic archetype). Kreese has done some morally reprehensible things, but it is not like he has become a "Colonel Kurtz" type. PTSD will wreck you! And if the writers have done anything truly excellent, it is showing how PTSD (joined with lack of forgiving the past) can stop you from growing as human. I think he changed in subtle ways, and let us not forget that he actually was incorrectly sent to prison, for Silver's crime.
This season was just beautiful! It's perfection! As a childhood fan of the original movie trilogy, there was something just beyond awesome about Daniel's same-age nemeses from each of the three movies teaming up to invade Silver's home to take him down, and facing the fight of their lives once they get there! I also absolutely love the reveal that Amanda is the cousin of Jessica from Karate Kid III, as well as the barfight with their old high school foes that Sam has to intervene in. The final series of battles left the school fight at the end of Season 2 (which was crazy epic) in the dust. The final fight between Daniel and Terry Silver was another thing of beauty, especially Daniel's using Terry's "Quicksilver Method" against him and the symbolism of Silver picking up a trophy to use as a weapon, only to lose the fight as he's just lost his reputation and the loyalty of his students. This is the one series that gives me any hope that there are still good writers in Hollywood, as all the other shows and movies I've watched in the past several years had terrible writing and hit-or-miss acting, though the effects and visuals have been better than ever. Hopefully, you're right and the studios will draw inspiration from Cobra Kai to start recapturing some of the magic that used to make films so epic.
I love this season, it gives more highlights for Daniel, and Silver is a great villain, he and Daniel's villain and hero dynamics reminds me of Wilson Fisk/Kingpin and Matt Murdock/Daredevil dynamics. Both Fisk and Silver tries to break Matt and Daniel down, both physically and mentally.
As a big fan of the Netflix Daredevil series, I totally agree and felt similar parallels between the Matt Murdock/Kingpin and Daniel/Terry Silver dynamics. Just that sense that the villain has their hands in everything and is always one step ahead. It was very well done in both cases.
@@watchparty1 according to the directors "julie has always stayed in touch with and kept an extremely close relationship with Mr. Miyagi until he passed away on November 15, 2011 which deeply saddened Julie. At some point, either before or after Mr. Miyagi passed away, she met his other student, Daniel LaRusso." Season 6 will include her in my opinion
this season was great, i enjoyed all of it but there were a couple things i couldnt suspend my disbelief enough to buy them. #1 how Kenny became Cobra Kai's golden boy basically overnight and #2 Kreese's escape from prison.
I really liked this season, it’s fun and it has good storylines. The relationships are resolved finally. Chozen by far is my favorite character this season. I love how Miguel and Robby finally become friends and how Johnny got two sons and one more in the way. Chozen and Johnny were the mvps in their own fights.
I didn't mind that the Mexico storyline was only two episodes. The arc did exactly what it needed to do and the emotional reunion between Miguel and Johnny was better than anything else they could have done with the story.
My biggest complaint is the the child antagonist which is Payne….. the kid is like 15 years old acting tough challenging Keene, calling him out, like bro call your parents to pick you up… and the kids pushing each other at the water park, aren’t they like seniors? They should have gave character growth to kyler and transformed him to a real threat.. they started it way back when John krease said they need “natural athletes” and got kyler, som much potential, could have transformed him into a beast. But no, we got the 15 year old kid I just couldn’t take serious. Loved hawk and Robby as bad guys.
@@healy7882 yeah for real. Sam’s character has basically just been making weird faces and saying things like, “I just need time to figure out how i feel.”
My thoughts on season 5 is (to paraphrase a famous story) it was the best of seasons. It was the worst of seasons. While on the front lines it did deliver with action, drama, suspense, and even a few comical moments, it was too busy, there were way to many storylines to develop them all to come to fruition effectively. I said the same thing of season 3 but this time it kind of hit a new gear much like Johnny in his last fight. I was disappointed in how the Miquel and his dad panned out even though Johnny and Robby bonding on the trip was refreshing. Then Miguel comes back and him and Sam end up doing a whole Ross and Rachel “on a break” which kind of sucked. Sam’s growth through the season was nice though. Also I liked how Miguel and Robby made amends. While unorthodox in the real world their bonding fight was awesome and excellent in execution. My biggest disappointments of season were that the relationship of Devon and Tory was rushed and really did not fit together well. The new Sensei Kim was not developed well and comes off as 1 diminional and almost cartoonish as a villain. I feel the show could have utilized Mike Barnes better and not had him just as a side character in 2 or 2 and a half episodes. I hope they are setting him up for a more prominent role in season 6 and the valiant warrior speech from Silver to Chozen was a stroke of genius but Chozen deserved a better end of his fight with silver. I have binged all of the show many times since I discovered it at end of Season 2 on RUclips and for me something great about the show is how the actors especially the younger ones have grown and developed and created chemistry with one another. Another character that kind of fell flat with me was Kenny. I feel they could have done something a little more or different to make him better and not let him retreat back into being just a hot headed bully with a score to settle
Another great breakdown and analysis! I thought this was the best season so far and enjoyed every minute of it. I could sing the praises of the writers and actors all day, and, in fact, I wasn't aware that there would be another season, so I was viewing everything with the lens of closure and was very happy to see a beautiful ending for some many legacy characters, as well as for the new ones. One question that I have, related to continuity: Kreese was able to see through Chozen's story because he toasted with Karaii instead of Kampai, the former indicating that he was from Okinawa. But in Karate Kid, Mr. Miyagi himself says Kampai when he's celebrating the "anniversary." I guess that could be explained by the fact that he spent some time in Japan during World War II, and perhaps acquired that custom, but I noticed that discrepancy immediately and wondered if anyone else did. By the way, when Robyn Lively showed up at the doorstep I didn't recognize her at first but looked up the IMDB page for that episode to verify that it was her. (We then later got some flashbacks and explanation that rendered that IMDB check unnecessary.) And, hey, we even got to see Elizabeth Anne-Rooney. You have to wonder if Jessica ended up marrying the headless rock climber or if he fathered her two kids. I love that this show went above and beyond in making the third movie, which was panned by critics and fans alike when it was released, not only relevant, but critical in resolving the conflicts and paying off the setups established by the other characters. It was all brought together beautifully. Can't wait for more of your breakdowns, Watch Party!
I hated the treatment Devon got in this season. She had zero proper interactions with Johnny and the Eagle Fangs, as if she was never even a part of the dojo or knew any of them. She was reduced to being Tory's flunky, bascially a younger version of her, even down to having a similar tragic home life. I bet the writers didn't really know what to do with her and decided to just turn her into another Tory.
My criticism is that Mike Barnes was the bad boy of karate and terrified Daniel-san. He should have had more and better fight scenes, other than being knocked out, throwing one punch & a takedown in the finale, and punching the air with chozen in the furniture store.
I feel like Terry was the victim in season 5. He was just minding his own business. He was brought back to be a villain in season 4 when he was just minding his own business again.
The thing I like most is that it skips all the bullshit you would see in modern shows. No character gender identification story arc, no romance taking up all the screen time, no typical Netflix ideals being plugged needlessly into scenes, and yet they still keep representation in there but don’t make it the main focus of everything. Moon, Piper, they were introduced but they’re not at the forefront of everything. I love that Johnny is so anti-SJW (or sjw ignorant) but it’s funny, not offensive. It’s like the show is telling you we can all enjoy it and we can all live together without conflict. Cobra Kai really is the definition of great storytelling and how to continue an old series.
Only thing that disappointed me was that Mike Barnes gets knocked out almost immediately in the final fight and only wakes up at the very end of the fight.
*The Good:* I liked expanding some of the lore with the new tournament and new villain. Johnny bringing the boys together because they are about to be a family was also nice. But most importantly, that skank Tory knows she's a fraud, and told the truth to Sam, our true champ, and Best Girl! *The Great:* Terry Silver was brilliant. Really liked the psychological warfare with Daniel. Kept in character for both of them. Also really liked the addition of Chozen. He's been a missing piece, when it comes to the Eastern sensibilities of The Karate Kid. *The Bad:* Miguel's trip to Mexico was underdeveloped. I'm with you. I'd trade the text message episode for one more entry with his father, and it should have been something to carry with Miguel's arc when he got back home and the season went on. I also think the Robbie/Kenny relationship needed a bit more to it. *The Ugly:* Kreese's jello prison break was really, really stupid. I have nothing else to say. *I Wish:* Mike Barnes was used more, because he was barely back! I also wish Daniel got a scene with Jessica. They had great chemistry in KK3, and that would have been a welcome reunion.
I get what you're saying, and I mostly agree. I just find it really funny that your conclusion is that there is ONE way to do it right. You know, considering that this is a video about Cobra Kai, the antithesis of that statement
Agree. That’s actually one of my minor dislikes of the show the past 3 seasons. That show started out exploring all the gray. But then starting in season 3 seemed to lean more and more into Good guys vs bad guys. I suppose that’s the natural progression though.
Mexico storyline was really just for Johnny and Robby and it took Miguel away from Sam so that she could tell him she needs space herself when he comes back. That’s all. It really doesn’t add anything to Miguel’s story and was otherwise unnecessary to to bring in the dad who was a brief mention once in season 1. Oh , I guess it made for part of the great finale of season 4 also
I agree the Mexico arc was totally pointless. The only way it was not a total filler is if Miguel's father comes back at some point later. However if it ends there then it was a complete waste of time. But I dont think Kim Da-Eun was a waste. She was a GREAT addition to the story, excellent character and excellent portrayal by the actress. It was very enjoyable to see her on the screen. I am looking forward to seeing more of her in the next season.
Johnny, Chozen and Daniel in the Limo was the Funniest Scene of all Seasons, for me. 3 drunken Senseis + Barnes on top was the best. For me Chozen is now the best Charakter very close to Johnny. When der split Sam and Miguel again i flipped out. I hated the Writers, but it comes to an good End....for the Moment. Carmen pregnant..hm.. too early? too forced? At the end of the Season i expectet every Time something really bad happens to her, or Johnny or Chozen. I thought they will injure one of them very bad, like Miguel in Season 2. I think this Season has end the 2 Dojo rivalry and we will see in Season 6 something new.
SHIIIIIIIT if this season is THE finale I’m completely happy if it does. This is the Endgame of Cobra Kai, and definitely the best season if not the best series I’ve ever seen. Now I’m disappointed that the writers of Cobra Kai wrote a better Star Wars series and its continuations than some of the Star Wars content we got, and I’m a huge Star Wars fan myself. You captured exactly how I felt seeing this season. My hands are tired from clapping upon hearing those points.
6:12 Krease feels like Heath Leather’s Joker, or any Joker from the DC universe where Heath Leather escaped the hospital in The Dark Night or just any Batman movie with the Joker
Let's face it, it was a stupid move on Daniel's part to cntact Silver's 'former' lawyer, since he's probably still on his payroll, even after 35 years, and this is proven to be true since Silver shows up at the sauna with what is presumably the lawyer's own phone!
Yes, it was a knee-jerk reaction by Daniel. But, it was also a poor decision by Barnes to kidnap Daniel's limo; and also a poor choice to attack Silver directly. They got lucky! Very entertaining though :-)
I love Kenny interaction in Season 5 some people though he was a rush character and he had time to grow, thanks to Robby not being in Cobra Kai he was no longer a follower to anyone. Than there was trouble with Anthony so hopefully in this next season Robby could help them to become friends and for some very funny scenario they ask Robby for girl advice and he be in a awkward/interested stage as a mentor, heck I might be surprise Kenny and Anthony were talking about who Robby was mostly into Tory or Sam.
Kresse is a deadly man who's constantly at war. Silver is a sick and cleaver mastermind (nasty combination) who thinks it's all a game and he was thinking a lot more global than Kreese and he had some mercs as senseis. As for Tory, it did not shock me she was still loyal to Kreese. He was the closest thing to a father she ever had who did a lot for her. Unlike most people, I never saw Tory as a bad person, just someone who was hardened by events in her life (her mother being gravely ill, her aunt trying to leach off them...etc.). Kim Da-Eun is probably going to the next big threat IMO next season, assuming the actress returns. She might take over Cobra Kai dojo since Kreese is in no position to take it over due to his fugitive status and Silver will probably never be trust to teach at the YMCA let alone own and operate another dojo after what he did in the 1980s and now, so he won't be back running it. Kim Da-Eun is the only logical choice to inherit Cobra Kai.
I agree with most of this. Tory's interaction with Kreese seemed realistic to me. I'm surprised that she didn't go to Stingray directly. She could have told Robby what was going on too! I'm not sure what happens to the Cobra Kai dojo. Does Kim have any actual ownership? And, do they have any students left? They will probably be forced to shut down during the investigation. Also, does Barnes have a legal stake in the Cobra Kai franchise? What if Kreese gets pardoned?
I gotta say something I never thought I would say but coming out of season 5 the best characters in terms of the kids ended up being Robby and Tory their development coming full circle was the best they stole the season imo along with the dynamic of the grown ups this season it was great seeing all that
My only gripe with this season was Carmen’s pregnancy because it is making the show feel almost completely different; less like Cobra Kai and more like Fuller House 🤨. As Kreese put it, this is a karate dojo not a knitting class! This gives me cause for concern that the show’s legacy may be tarnished by a lackluster conclusion, similar to what befell Game of Thrones and other series. It seems contradictory to the show’s overtones and principles to make it seem like the key to Johnny’s redemption and “making things right” is knocking up another girlfriend. There are a ton of other issues, such as Johnny’s drinking problem, finances, juggling reconciliation with Robby and Carmen’s desperation for a “second chance at love”. I am not sure where the writers are going with this but despite my skepticism, I still have faith in them and intend to see how it all plays out.
Can't wait to hear what dojo name gets submitted for the new competition : ) Maybe "Miyagi Fang"? Or something new that is so fantastically awesome that everyone is immediately onboard with it and inspired by it. Matching the humorous energy of when Johnny introduced Eagle Fang but in the sense that it is actually as awesome as Johnny obviously thought that Eagle Fang was when he was explaining it.
@bARRY lARRY It wasn't mentioned that I saw so I felt it worth mentioning. There are plenty of other exciting things that have also been talked about. I mean, we are talking hundreds of years of tradition within Miyagi Do. It's obviously a very emotional topic based on the discussion that Johnny and Daniel had during season 4.
I don't think we've seen the end of Miguel's father. I think they kept the Mexico story short on purpose. Similar to how they kept the Japan trip in S3 short. Most of us never saw a Chozen team up at that point. I think during the world championship, Miguel's father will possibly be there with one his fighters and he'll recognize Miguel. It sets up s6 or possibly season 7 with Miguel's father being the main bad guy and kreese sacrificing his life to save Johnny and Carmen from him.
They gave every one gave equal development and story Daniel finishing silver, chozen and silver fight 😢, Johnny vs the fist, tory and sam vs sensai kim, Robby vs Miguel and redemption, Robby and Miguel kicking some Cobra Kai, And I am so glad they avoided romance stuff and focused more on character building, hell waiting for John Kreese entry in season 6,
Chozen is such a treasure. I loved every scene with him in it. What a great season. I have no fkkn idea why I like this so much. The whole concept screams Cringe-Reboot. But goddamn is this show fantastic! The writing is SuperB!
This 100% could have been the final season of the series if they added like an epilogue episode after. Overall I’m my opinion this show only needs one more season to end gracefully. There’s no way they need to drag out the show
@@watchparty1 I also enjoyed how season 5’s final episode basically subverted expectations where instead of them waiting till the tournament to confront him like they usually do for cobra Kai, they basically said “Fuck It, we’re kicking his ass RIGHT NOW” that was cool to see
Cobra Kai remains a shining example of howobra Kai remains a shining example of how to correctly reimagine and reboot an existing IP to satisfy both the original and a new generation of fans.
I like that Daniel finally did what half the Cobra Kai fandom wanted him to do for years. Stand down and stop worrying about Cobra Kai. And everyone from Johnny to his daughter to Amanda had to push him to get back in the fight. It’s the like the writers were laughing at all the weirdos who think Daniel is the real villain just because he didn’t want Cobra Kai to exist
I hope season 6 is the build up to the tournament and season 7 is the tournament with every episode focusing on it and the different things they might have to do outside of 1 on 1 combat. It fits with how the shows been laid out so far. S1 tournament and then 2 and 3 didn't. S4 had a tournament and then 5 and potentially 6 don't. This stops the competitions from feeling too repetitive and gives them room to have fights take place elsewhere like the high school, LaRusso house and cobra kai dojo.
Does anyone feel like Daniel’s fight with Silver was too easy though? He didn’t get struck once, is he really better than Chozen? I guess they were trying to say Daniel finally reached Miyagi level of Karate.
I agree on one thing. That Miguel's trip to Mexico to find his biological dad was rushed, that last only 2 episodes and should've been 3 episodes. It was strange that Miguel never said that he is the son. However, there was a bond between the two seeming as closer to family and the father treated Miguel as extended family. I'm not sure if its being saved for season 6, but I doubt it. The whole Sam and Miguel breakup was more in different light. I see it as mutual breakup. It's like they need to take a break, need some breathing room to focus on getting their own personal lives back on track. Miguel was more mature, he was more understanding instead being demanding and being desperate to hold on to the one he loves, he just let go, but deep down inside he was heartbroken with tears once he walked away and purposely dropped the pendant on the ground. When Robby was having a friendly conversation with Sam, Miguel did not get in the way or acted jealous, while Hawk told that "Robby is moving in on your girl." The dojo fight scene was badass. That was shades of Bruce Lee's The Chinese Connection while there was dojo war between the Jingwoo school and Japanese Martial Arts school. That movie is a classic and I recommend people to watch that movie.
The significance of the painting... its called "The Storm on Galilee" and is actually priceless as it was stolen in 1990, whereabouts unknown. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Storm_on_the_Sea_of_Galilee The thing that most people are clearly missing about the significance of the painting is the "Easter" egg that Netflix had a series called "This Is a Robbery: The World's Biggest Art Heist" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Is_a_Robbery about this exact painting.
For people who are interested, here is the exact timeline when certain events took place during Season 4. When Demetri hacked the Cobra Kai Computer following datas were visible: Saturday, May 11, 2019: Prom Sunday, May 12, 2019, 8,15-8,45 a.m: Silver beats down Stingray Monday, May 20, 2019, 10 a.m: Tory confronts Silver about the payed off referee. Most probably the All Valley Tournament took place on Saturday May 18th. This means Tory confronted Silver already two days after the the tournament.
I don't think we have seen the last of Miguel's dad. I bet he has some shady ties with some undesirable people that will rear its head while Johnny and Carmen are trying to have a blended family.
I think Season 5 was great absolutely Season 3 is still my favorite season my only problem with Season 5 is they made Mike Barnes go out to easily in the finale I think they could have made Mike and Johnny team up against the senses or they could have made Mike save Johnny after Terry Silver left.
Brilliant from start to finish the way they got the characters to blend in together as a unit again was great the new storylines and just about everything else and the fights at the end were brilliant & the ending with Kreese escaping just set it up
It was super subtle, but Mike Barnes redemption was a reference to breaking bad. Jesse spoke about finding inner peace through woodworking quite a few times.
@@watchparty1 yeah man, I never really left. I'm always watching and soaking in the Cobra Kai meta. I thought It was a coincidence too at first, but I rewatched the scenes back to back, and the dialogue is almost word for word. Even the shot composition is somewhat similar. If it is just a coincidence, it's the most impressive coincidence I've ever witnessed lmao
@@iamlordapollo I suppose it could be. They did say they always intended for Barnes to be in furniture. Not really sure how they got that specific profession. Thanks for sticking around!
@@watchparty1 huh, I didn't know that. I guess if that was always the intention, then if anything, it's probably just the line itself that's a tiny reference, not the entire choice of career path.
This season is freaking fantastic!!! I'm just worried that season 6 is gonna flop. Virtually every conflict, character arc and relationship is now settled and laid to rest. I mean yeah, Kreese has escaped prison and Terry's students can have a bit of redemption, not to mention the upcoming tournament, but I just feel like it might not be at the same level as everything that came before. Of course, I hope I'm wrong. I do love this show, but I loved Game of Thrones, too and we all know how that turned out.
Am I the only one that thinks Silver should not have been arrested at the end? After all, the kids broke into his dojo, Johnny broke into his house. Yeah what Silver did wasn't good but it wasn't illegal. This is something that should have been taken up with the karate council or whatever it's called. Loved the series but didn't like the last 10 minutes of the whole series. Edit: I can't spell for crap. * the.
True about Silver. And it underlines he will get free very easy. Of course Daniel, Johnny, Chozen and Barnes will tell the police they all got hurt by Silver or his henchmen, but i am sure Terry has the money to get the best lawyers and he will get out of jail very easy.
It felt good to see stable relationships in the end but I still think seasons 1 and 2 were better. But it’s like a mole on a supermodel it is very well done and this had potential but some of the Kenny stuff was dumb
Personally I think the Mexico arc ain't quite over yet. Hector Salazar is far too dangerous and powerful and we see him look at a photo with Carmen and Yaya in it, so he WILL figure Miguel out. One other thing I find interesting is the Sekai Taikai is NOT specified as an under-18 event, so it's possible the members of The Fist could compete.
I expected more from the story of Miguel in Mexico. I hope we will see more of Hector Salazar, I liked him a lot. I didn’t like Eli losing to Kenny, I know they did it to make Sam and Tory redeem themselves, but they made Eli fight as if he were still “lip”. I liked Chozen and Mike Barnes a lot, and Jessica was a pleasant surprise that made Amanda come to her senses.
I thought they should have done more with Miguel's dad. It seemed like a wasted storyline to have it end so easily. Would have been great if Miguel told him he was his son and then tried to leave. Then this guy came back into their lives to cause trouble. Would have been great to see Johnny and Miguel deal with this dangerous drug dealer guy in the picture. Would have been a good break too from the dojo rivalry. This whole season just felt so repetitive. LaRusso still obsessed with bringing down Cobra Kai and the same old story continues...
@@juliomiranda7013 although the facts suggest that Hector is a criminal, we never saw him doing any illegal deal. When he asked Miguel to give him his cell phone, he saw a picture of Miguel with Carmen, so he probably knows he is his son (or maybe that's what they wanted us to believe). He seems to care about Miguel but didn't know how to say it. The tone of his words "caudate mucho cabronctio" says a lot. I don't think he is interested in making any trouble for Carmen, if he appears again it will be to try to have a relationship with Miguel. Daniel trying to bring Cobra Kai down is more than just than just a rivalry, it is a crusade to prevent Kreese and Silver to keep training thugs that would to other kids the same things Kreese's and Silver's students did to Daniel.
I loved this season, I do wished they used Mike “Fucking” Barns a little more and the last episode felt a little rushed. The tear jerking moments this season was well spread out, I liked that.
Yes, the crane kick can be used in a fight and it was- specifically in a UFC fight. Lyoto Machida vs Randy Couture, that kick ended the fight and knocked out Randy’s tooth in the process.
WATCHPARTY: Yeah S5 was definitely the best. I have a feeling we will find out a lot about Sensei Kim, her life and her relationship with Kreese which I think may be more like a brother/sister relationship. Also when they do reconnect again can you see their relationship going and ending in somewhat of the same manner that Silvers and Kreese's did in season 4 given that Kreese does see Tory like a granddaughter & given how Sensei Kim treated Tory could potentially drive a wedge between them?
@@watchparty1 Yeah it does make sense. I am just curious to see if there relationship will remain in tact when he finds out what she to Tory (someone who thinks of like a grand daughter)?
@@watchparty1 The painting that barnes stole from is stole from silver at the end .Christ Storm On Lake Of Galilee in real life was stolen from the art gallery in Boston in 90s. Look for it to play a role in next season
I really don't see how people don't see that this is the worst season finale out of all the seasons. If this was a series finale fine but what exactly am I supposed to look forward to in another season? Silver and Cobra kai are dismantled. Crease escapes from prison so who exactly are the villains now? It's not like he can just go back and reopen Cobra Kai now that he's a fugitive. If this was the route they were going they should have called it a series finale because there is absolutely nothing to draw me into another season.
Perhaps a little bird tells Miguel's father that he has a son. So the father Quest will be the father looking for the son. That would make a pretty cool Arc in the future.
@@watchparty1 Hello watch party if you remember me I gave you the tattoo analysis it says I did like your observations of Kim but I believe there's one thing that you overlooked Kim is not fighting to preserve the legacy of Cobra Kai silver she was fighting to preserve the legacy of the legacy of her Her father style Again I grieved Chris was trained under her father silver was trained under her father the legacy of the martial arts is what she wants to see reached the sky tie Again I grieved Chris was trained under her father silver was trained under her father the legacy of the martial arts is what she wants to see reached the sekaiy tiaki
@@watchparty1 I do like your analysis of the Miguel trip and I believe when you say it's too short yes that could be certainly a certainly one aspect. But I believe s fans what we'd probably did was read too much into the character and he was not really supposed to be more at more than a discovery point from Miguel.
@@watchparty1 During the Korean War, Sato met Kim Sun-Yung, who was well known for teaching many American soldiers. While he did not speak much about him, Sato held a lot of anger towards Master Kim. By 1972, Sato started training many people on Okinawa as part of his own Dojo, which included his nephew, Chozen Toguchi. One day this according to karate kid wiki. So after he said Cheers in the fashion of an Okinawan not Japanese He was skeptical and probably consulted Kim or his other contacts. Remember silver does say that he has a lot of Japanese friends indirectly
I don't really see the writer, director's wanting to go on with Miguel's father's. Just like Johnny's father sid we can establish that he was a very mean and dirty person. I think at this point the character's self has shown that he doesn't have any feet have any feelings for Carmen or Yaya or even his present day wife or son. The purpose was to show what a vile individual he was and why Carmen had to leave. His sole purpose Miguel's father was money and he wants to keep his business running. We won't see any emotional attachments even if he discovers Miguel's true identity.
He just showed up, he’ll be back in more seasons. Look at Chozen in season 3? He was only in one episodes and now? He’s an important character now. You just have to be patient, Barnes will be back
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I love how this season celebrated Daniel being the hero who will fight for everyone and how it took time reminding us of that. Like the ex bullies bragging about his feats, all the way up to Daniel once again being the one to defeat the final boss. And tying in karate kid 3 for full circle in that final fight. Masterful !
But he also needed help from his former foes for sure. Johnny was even hyping up Shimpo sensei sailing the China sea!
@@danielporter9685 Its been a reoccurring motif of the franchise (and not just Cobra Kai) that we all need others and we all need good influences
This was the best season and I was glad to see Robby, Miguel and Hawk becoming friends and it was nice to see Tory and Sam fighting together against Sensei Kim and so many characters had a great story arc.
Easily the best season for me as well, it builds from all the seasons before it and gives each character their completion arc and now sets up a likely final season where they fight at their full potential.
Not Robby. Or Miguel. Or Sam.
season 1 easily the best but yeah it’s really good
Why was this the best season?
I thought the finale was fantastic for so many reasons. For one, it was cool to see literally all 3 movie bullies teaming up to fight Silver's allies while on Danny' s side, and every fight was awesome. Chozen vs. Silver was particularly brutal which I didn't expect, and I was legitimately scared for Johnny until of course the baby picture came out and he just went beast mode, then got rescued by Barnes which was great. And It's nice Robby and Miguel and Tory and Sam have resolved their rivalries. Overall I was definitely hoping to see more of Kreese but I loved his storyline despite how short it was. I was kinda hoping he'd be around to see the downfall of Silver and maybe even fight/kill him though I doubt he'd actually kill him since this show has never crossed that line.
Kreese killed his commander in Nam.
Nearly everything you said is true and mostly why i love this season as a whole, 1 thing I criticize though, is I felt like mike didn't have enough screen time, he was in 1 episode, then in episode 10 went off to fight silver and gets knocked out immediately, and only comes back at the last moment. besides that there is one scene after that, and it isn't even about him.
@@OrangeFantaKid Agreed, Mike could’ve been used more but there were some pacing issues in this season partially because it was getting too big for it’s own good.
@@lordoffaiyum9727 yeah that’s true although his death wasn’t actually shown
@@lordoffaiyum9727 Nah man he just helped him fall, the snakes took care of the rest.:)
I hope this isn't the last we see of Silver. He's such a great villain
With that money, lawyers will do the job before the end of S06e02 😁
You thought Silver was bad? Wait until you meet his lawyers! 😆(L.O.L.!)
I mean everyone is happy but he's a literal billionaire with unlimited resources fighting an assault charge. He still owns all these locations, he's still in the tournament and he could easily find new fighters. He could bounce back pretty quickly
Terry is gonna need to call Saul Goodman
but daniel and his buddies and all his stufents have shown to tresspass many times. why are none of them being charged? this fcking season sucks ass
Terry was a straight up menace this season. One for the best seasons
I read your comment in the voice of your pfp
@@conneraldeqn9751 as you should
One thing that Cobra Kai does well is making us care about both the original cast from the movies and the new cast (the next generation). When continuations/reboots occur, you typically get new characters but very really care about them, but not Cobra Kai. Another thing is that despite the large cast of characters, Cobra Kai managed to find balance in giving everyone a decent amount of screentime to develop.
Characters like Hawk and Demetri take a backseat this season, but it's ultimately because their stories are practically completed in a way, Hawk and Demetri have conquered their demons, unless greater demons emerge in the future.
Sam and Tory have had some shakey moments on both sides from Season 2 - 4 in writing. However, Season 5 managed to bring the best aspects of both characters, I may not be a big fan of Samantha LaRusso, but it was satisfying to see the pay off for her character as well as Tory.
Miguel and Robby are my favorite characters, and seeing Johnny, Miguel, and Robby embrace each other over getting a new addition to the family almost brought a tear to my eye. It was especially satisfying seeing Robby control his emotions on the stairs this time. Keep in mind, this is after Robby joined Cobra Kai and had to unlearn the dark lessons of his Sensei's from his head, which makes his restraint even more satisfying. I could go on and on about every single character but this comment is already so long lol.
Absolutely. Well said.
I don't even understand the Mexico storyline nothing even changes. In episode 9 I thought his dad was driving the limo and was gonna be the s*** out of Johnny, because the dad might have seen them together and would follow them.
Another brilliant stroke of genius was Kreese’s breakthrough session where he confronts all of those from his past. This is like a “where did that come from” moment that you eventually thinking “ah yeah I get it now.” And having him go to young Kreese for his fight was awesome on a new level
Is anyone else disappointed in how underused the character of Mike Barnes was? For me he was one of the best characters from the original trilogy. He's a great actor and very convincing martial artist who always looked like he could hold his own in a real fight. After the furniture store episode I was just waiting for him to show back up, then when he finally did, he gets sucker punched out cold.
Then when Johnny is getting his ass kicked, I was like any minute now the karate bad boy is going to clean house to save the day, only for Johnny to turn super saiyan and practically do it himself.
I just hope we see more of Barnes in the next season and actually see him show off his karate!
Yes i am disappointed too. But i had a gutfeeling it would be like that. I wrote it here on YT many times, some agreed, others not. The reason was Sean Kanans work on The Bolt And The Beautiful soap opera. Its a daily show and he must be on set almost all the time. So he simply didnt have much time to film Cobra Kai. I hope in S6 the writers from TBATB give him more free time. They could write it like his character takes a vacation or so.
@@chrisbach1533 glad it wasn't just me. I know a lot of people discard the third film, which is why alot of people probably weren't that bothered, but I'm very fond of it and always have been. Mike and silver were great in it!
I too hope they use mike more in the next season and it will be great if they do more flash backs to the third film too!
@smithboyv1, yes i agree. The writers Jon, Josh and Hayden should contact the producers of TBATB very soon. Like i said there are always ways to give a character an off time. His character Deacon Sharpe (funny name :D) could simply take a vacation for some weeks, which would give Sean more time for Cobra Kai. I am sure the writers from TBATB could arrange that. I mean i am not a writer, but i am positive i could find a way to let Sharpe dissapear for a time, a vacation or so is always possible since even in the real world people take vacations.
I thought there were hints of Terry Silver being terminally ill. His visitation to the hospital, talking with Johnny and Carmen about the precious time that we have and telling Chosen that he is "not afraid to die" while constantly talking about his legacy in the final 2 episodes
oh wow, brilliant observation. That is probably why the actor Thomas Ian Griffith cuts his hair, he likely dies whether in jail or not, but early in the next season. He was also seen taking meds in season 4 I believe, although the speculation at the time was that the meds were suppose to control his psychopathic behaviour or something
That’s a very astute observation
I think you're right on that because maybe he will use this to his advantage saying that hes terminate terminally ill and needs to be treated at a hospital
Both of you had good observations cause this is what I had considered too why was he at the hospital he wouldn't just trail Johnny to hospital just to engage in meaningless conversation
@@certifiedlovercollection i think the idea of him being ill (if even true) is relatively fresh. S4 meds were probably written for the idea of mental state. But they can always retcon.
I'm now wondering if other writers ignore this show because it makes them look bad.
This show is everything they need to achieve (on one third the normal budget), but it's ingredients are things that many writers have ideological opposition to. POC characters defined by actions and not skin colour? Check. Badass karate fights that aren't CGI/totally one sided? Check.
But most importantly, this show loves its own lore, loves its own past, and loves its own fans. This is the direct opposite of the modern reboot playbook which openly despises its own property and fans.
Hawk got done dirty half way through ngl
It was a great season finale because it was a way for Daniel to put down his demons from the past when he took down Terry using the Quicksilver method while using Miyagi-Do technique. Chozen’s development and growth was amazing, Johnny’s fatherly instincts showed even more so, Miguel and Robbie were able to bury the hatchet after letting out their anger in that match; and San was able to finally see what Tory was going through after hearing the truth about the Referee bribery and Devon found a new female role model in Tory
I was a tad bit sad that Kreese didn't actually start to change himself for the better, but hatching an escape plan all along.
But on the other hand, it's such a Kreese move 😁
His season was a little unexpected. They (intentionally?) skipped his trial altogether. But, I have to think that Kreese feels like a victim, and that is his overwhelming motivation. He is in survival mode just like in Vietman.
It's funny. I felt Kreese did change. His feelings about Johnny were real. His therapist told him it's not to late to change. He did. He also knew he was set up. He wasn't going to accept prison. He escaped having fought his demons and was finally free. He is redeemed at the end. A terrific way to end season 5. Kreese is a better man. Amazing the peace he feels now.
Writers confirmed the therapy and character development were totally legit. That however DOES NOT mean he has some tricks up his sleeve still
Kreese is a survivor! They have touched on that theme the whole series. I felt they underplayed him a bit, but it was subtle and actually works for his character. I am not truly convinced he is nearly the monster he was painted as (Silver is the ultimate psychopathic archetype). Kreese has done some morally reprehensible things, but it is not like he has become a "Colonel Kurtz" type. PTSD will wreck you! And if the writers have done anything truly excellent, it is showing how PTSD (joined with lack of forgiving the past) can stop you from growing as human. I think he changed in subtle ways, and let us not forget that he actually was incorrectly sent to prison, for Silver's crime.
Always look forward to watching your vids after I binge through a season and feel depressed it's over lol
This season was just beautiful! It's perfection! As a childhood fan of the original movie trilogy, there was something just beyond awesome about Daniel's same-age nemeses from each of the three movies teaming up to invade Silver's home to take him down, and facing the fight of their lives once they get there! I also absolutely love the reveal that Amanda is the cousin of Jessica from Karate Kid III, as well as the barfight with their old high school foes that Sam has to intervene in. The final series of battles left the school fight at the end of Season 2 (which was crazy epic) in the dust. The final fight between Daniel and Terry Silver was another thing of beauty, especially Daniel's using Terry's "Quicksilver Method" against him and the symbolism of Silver picking up a trophy to use as a weapon, only to lose the fight as he's just lost his reputation and the loyalty of his students. This is the one series that gives me any hope that there are still good writers in Hollywood, as all the other shows and movies I've watched in the past several years had terrible writing and hit-or-miss acting, though the effects and visuals have been better than ever. Hopefully, you're right and the studios will draw inspiration from Cobra Kai to start recapturing some of the magic that used to make films so epic.
I love this season, it gives more highlights for Daniel, and Silver is a great villain, he and Daniel's villain and hero dynamics reminds me of Wilson Fisk/Kingpin and Matt Murdock/Daredevil dynamics. Both Fisk and Silver tries to break Matt and Daniel down, both physically and mentally.
It really does give highlights to Daniel and Johnny. All great stuff.
As a big fan of the Netflix Daredevil series, I totally agree and felt similar parallels between the Matt Murdock/Kingpin and Daniel/Terry Silver dynamics. Just that sense that the villain has their hands in everything and is always one step ahead. It was very well done in both cases.
@@watchparty1 according to the directors "julie has always stayed in touch with and kept an extremely close relationship with Mr. Miyagi until he passed away on November 15, 2011 which deeply saddened Julie. At some point, either before or after Mr. Miyagi passed away, she met his other student, Daniel LaRusso." Season 6 will include her in my opinion
Terry Silver is one of the best Villains in any series,show, movie atc since Keith Ledger as The Joker
this season was great, i enjoyed all of it but there were a couple things i couldnt suspend my disbelief enough to buy them. #1 how Kenny became Cobra Kai's golden boy basically overnight and #2 Kreese's escape from prison.
I really liked this season, it’s fun and it has good storylines. The relationships are resolved finally. Chozen by far is my favorite character this season. I love how Miguel and Robby finally become friends and how Johnny got two sons and one more in the way. Chozen and Johnny were the mvps in their own fights.
This season was AMAZING but I agree the Mexico storyline felt too rushed i kinda forgot it even happened by the end of the season
I didn't mind that the Mexico storyline was only two episodes. The arc did exactly what it needed to do and the emotional reunion between Miguel and Johnny was better than anything else they could have done with the story.
Yes the Mexico sub-plot was rushed. I wonder if it's the last we will see of Hector the Salazar?
@@danielporter9685 I mean you never know
My biggest complaint is the the child antagonist which is Payne….. the kid is like 15 years old acting tough challenging Keene, calling him out, like bro call your parents to pick you up… and the kids pushing each other at the water park, aren’t they like seniors?
They should have gave character growth to kyler and transformed him to a real threat.. they started it way back when John krease said they need “natural athletes” and got kyler, som much potential, could have transformed him into a beast. But no, we got the 15 year old kid I just couldn’t take serious.
Loved hawk and Robby as bad guys.
So it’s a high 9. Got it.
What about our boy Stingray? Man stepped up huge this season.
He's in a great spot.
Miguel and sams relationship was actually good this season
annoying i thought, all her character does is b***ch lol
@@healy7882 that is just you
@@healy7882 trueish
@@healy7882 yeah for real. Sam’s character has basically just been making weird faces and saying things like, “I just need time to figure out how i feel.”
My thoughts on season 5 is (to paraphrase a famous story) it was the best of seasons. It was the worst of seasons. While on the front lines it did deliver with action, drama, suspense, and even a few comical moments, it was too busy, there were way to many storylines to develop them all to come to fruition effectively. I said the same thing of season 3 but this time it kind of hit a new gear much like Johnny in his last fight. I was disappointed in how the Miquel and his dad panned out even though Johnny and Robby bonding on the trip was refreshing. Then Miguel comes back and him and Sam end up doing a whole Ross and Rachel “on a break” which kind of sucked. Sam’s growth through the season was nice though. Also I liked how Miguel and Robby made amends. While unorthodox in the real world their bonding fight was awesome and excellent in execution. My biggest disappointments of season were that the relationship of Devon and Tory was rushed and really did not fit together well. The new Sensei Kim was not developed well and comes off as 1 diminional and almost cartoonish as a villain. I feel the show could have utilized Mike Barnes better and not had him just as a side character in 2 or 2 and a half episodes. I hope they are setting him up for a more prominent role in season 6 and the valiant warrior speech from Silver to Chozen was a stroke of genius but Chozen deserved a better end of his fight with silver. I have binged all of the show many times since I discovered it at end of Season 2 on RUclips and for me something great about the show is how the actors especially the younger ones have grown and developed and created chemistry with one another. Another character that kind of fell flat with me was Kenny. I feel they could have done something a little more or different to make him better and not let him retreat back into being just a hot headed bully with a score to settle
Sensei kim character was dogshit, could’ve been way better
A man can't see, he can't fight.
.. silver got a dose of his own medicine his back was turned, he lost focus...no mercy
Another great breakdown and analysis! I thought this was the best season so far and enjoyed every minute of it. I could sing the praises of the writers and actors all day, and, in fact, I wasn't aware that there would be another season, so I was viewing everything with the lens of closure and was very happy to see a beautiful ending for some many legacy characters, as well as for the new ones. One question that I have, related to continuity: Kreese was able to see through Chozen's story because he toasted with Karaii instead of Kampai, the former indicating that he was from Okinawa. But in Karate Kid, Mr. Miyagi himself says Kampai when he's celebrating the "anniversary." I guess that could be explained by the fact that he spent some time in Japan during World War II, and perhaps acquired that custom, but I noticed that discrepancy immediately and wondered if anyone else did. By the way, when Robyn Lively showed up at the doorstep I didn't recognize her at first but looked up the IMDB page for that episode to verify that it was her. (We then later got some flashbacks and explanation that rendered that IMDB check unnecessary.) And, hey, we even got to see Elizabeth Anne-Rooney. You have to wonder if Jessica ended up marrying the headless rock climber or if he fathered her two kids. I love that this show went above and beyond in making the third movie, which was panned by critics and fans alike when it was released, not only relevant, but critical in resolving the conflicts and paying off the setups established by the other characters. It was all brought together beautifully. Can't wait for more of your breakdowns, Watch Party!
I hated the treatment Devon got in this season. She had zero proper interactions with Johnny and the Eagle Fangs, as if she was never even a part of the dojo or knew any of them.
She was reduced to being Tory's flunky, bascially a younger version of her, even down to having a similar tragic home life.
I bet the writers didn't really know what to do with her and decided to just turn her into another Tory.
Her time will come I think. Probably rejoin Eagle Fang and reconnect with Johnny.
I like her but to be honest she is only a character because in season 4 they split the dojos and Eagle Fang needed a girl
My criticism is that Mike Barnes was the bad boy of karate and terrified Daniel-san. He should have had more and better fight scenes, other than being knocked out, throwing one punch & a takedown in the finale, and punching the air with chozen in the furniture store.
0:59 I love the Chozen flash back and the actor who plays young Sato. Man the actor actually looks like Sato
I feel like Terry was the victim in season 5. He was just minding his own business.
He was brought back to be a villain in season 4 when he was just minding his own business again.
The thing I like most is that it skips all the bullshit you would see in modern shows. No character gender identification story arc, no romance taking up all the screen time, no typical Netflix ideals being plugged needlessly into scenes, and yet they still keep representation in there but don’t make it the main focus of everything. Moon, Piper, they were introduced but they’re not at the forefront of everything. I love that Johnny is so anti-SJW (or sjw ignorant) but it’s funny, not offensive. It’s like the show is telling you we can all enjoy it and we can all live together without conflict. Cobra Kai really is the definition of great storytelling and how to continue an old series.
Only thing that disappointed me was that Mike Barnes gets knocked out almost immediately in the final fight and only wakes up at the very end of the fight.
*The Good:* I liked expanding some of the lore with the new tournament and new villain. Johnny bringing the boys together because they are about to be a family was also nice. But most importantly, that skank Tory knows she's a fraud, and told the truth to Sam, our true champ, and Best Girl!
*The Great:* Terry Silver was brilliant. Really liked the psychological warfare with Daniel. Kept in character for both of them. Also really liked the addition of Chozen. He's been a missing piece, when it comes to the Eastern sensibilities of The Karate Kid.
*The Bad:* Miguel's trip to Mexico was underdeveloped. I'm with you. I'd trade the text message episode for one more entry with his father, and it should have been something to carry with Miguel's arc when he got back home and the season went on. I also think the Robbie/Kenny relationship needed a bit more to it.
*The Ugly:* Kreese's jello prison break was really, really stupid. I have nothing else to say.
*I Wish:* Mike Barnes was used more, because he was barely back! I also wish Daniel got a scene with Jessica. They had great chemistry in KK3, and that would have been a welcome reunion.
The final fight between Daniel and Silver is one of the most satisfying and epic scenes in recent history.
Tory continues to be the best character in the show and personally one of the best characters in any show these days
Lol
I agree
I get what you're saying, and I mostly agree. I just find it really funny that your conclusion is that there is ONE way to do it right. You know, considering that this is a video about Cobra Kai, the antithesis of that statement
Agree. That’s actually one of my minor dislikes of the show the past 3 seasons. That show started out exploring all the gray. But then starting in season 3 seemed to lean more and more into Good guys vs bad guys. I suppose that’s the natural progression though.
Mexico storyline was really just for Johnny and Robby and it took Miguel away from Sam so that she could tell him she needs space herself when he comes back. That’s all. It really doesn’t add anything to Miguel’s story and was otherwise unnecessary to to bring in the dad who was a brief mention once in season 1. Oh , I guess it made for part of the great finale of season 4 also
I agree the Mexico arc was totally pointless. The only way it was not a total filler is if Miguel's father comes back at some point later. However if it ends there then it was a complete waste of time. But I dont think Kim Da-Eun was a waste. She was a GREAT addition to the story, excellent character and excellent portrayal by the actress. It was very enjoyable to see her on the screen. I am looking forward to seeing more of her in the next season.
I hope silver don't get written off" he's steals the show as a villain.
Johnny, Chozen and Daniel in the Limo was the Funniest Scene of all Seasons, for me.
3 drunken Senseis + Barnes on top was the best. For me Chozen is now the best Charakter very close to Johnny.
When der split Sam and Miguel again i flipped out. I hated the Writers, but it comes to an good End....for the Moment.
Carmen pregnant..hm.. too early? too forced? At the end of the Season i expectet every Time something really bad happens to her, or Johnny or Chozen. I thought they will injure one of them very bad, like Miguel in Season 2.
I think this Season has end the 2 Dojo rivalry and we will see in Season 6 something new.
The crane kick really works Machida knocked out Randy couture with it, the real version of the kick works.
SHIIIIIIIT if this season is THE finale I’m completely happy if it does. This is the Endgame of Cobra Kai, and definitely the best season if not the best series I’ve ever seen. Now I’m disappointed that the writers of Cobra Kai wrote a better Star Wars series and its continuations than some of the Star Wars content we got, and I’m a huge Star Wars fan myself.
You captured exactly how I felt seeing this season. My hands are tired from clapping upon hearing those points.
This was absolutely incredible. Can't wait for season 6.
6:12 Krease feels like Heath Leather’s Joker, or any Joker from the DC universe where Heath Leather escaped the hospital in The Dark Night or just any Batman movie with the Joker
Let's face it, it was a stupid move on Daniel's part to cntact Silver's 'former' lawyer, since he's probably still on his payroll, even after 35 years, and this is proven to be true since Silver shows up at the sauna with what is presumably the lawyer's own phone!
Yes, it was a knee-jerk reaction by Daniel. But, it was also a poor decision by Barnes to kidnap Daniel's limo; and also a poor choice to attack Silver directly. They got lucky! Very entertaining though :-)
I love Kenny interaction in Season 5 some people though he was a rush character and he had time to grow, thanks to Robby not being in Cobra Kai he was no longer a follower to anyone. Than there was trouble with Anthony so hopefully in this next season Robby could help them to become friends and for some very funny scenario they ask Robby for girl advice and he be in a awkward/interested stage as a mentor, heck I might be surprise Kenny and Anthony were talking about who Robby was mostly into Tory or Sam.
Silver was one hell of a villain
Kresse is a deadly man who's constantly at war. Silver is a sick and cleaver mastermind (nasty combination) who thinks it's all a game and he was thinking a lot more global than Kreese and he had some mercs as senseis.
As for Tory, it did not shock me she was still loyal to Kreese. He was the closest thing to a father she ever had who did a lot for her. Unlike most people, I never saw Tory as a bad person, just someone who was hardened by events in her life (her mother being gravely ill, her aunt trying to leach off them...etc.).
Kim Da-Eun is probably going to the next big threat IMO next season, assuming the actress returns. She might take over Cobra Kai dojo since Kreese is in no position to take it over due to his fugitive status and Silver will probably never be trust to teach at the YMCA let alone own and operate another dojo after what he did in the 1980s and now, so he won't be back running it. Kim Da-Eun is the only logical choice to inherit Cobra Kai.
I agree with most of this. Tory's interaction with Kreese seemed realistic to me. I'm surprised that she didn't go to Stingray directly. She could have told Robby what was going on too!
I'm not sure what happens to the Cobra Kai dojo. Does Kim have any actual ownership? And, do they have any students left? They will probably be forced to shut down during the investigation. Also, does Barnes have a legal stake in the Cobra Kai franchise? What if Kreese gets pardoned?
I gotta say something I never thought I would say but coming out of season 5 the best characters in terms of the kids ended up being Robby and Tory their development coming full circle was the best they stole the season imo along with the dynamic of the grown ups this season it was great seeing all that
You're not alone in thinking that. They've had a lot of character growth.
My only gripe with this season was Carmen’s pregnancy because it is making the show feel almost completely different; less like Cobra Kai and more like Fuller House 🤨. As Kreese put it, this is a karate dojo not a knitting class! This gives me cause for concern that the show’s legacy may be tarnished by a lackluster conclusion, similar to what befell Game of Thrones and other series.
It seems contradictory to the show’s overtones and principles to make it seem like the key to Johnny’s redemption and “making things right” is knocking up another girlfriend. There are a ton of other issues, such as Johnny’s drinking problem, finances, juggling reconciliation with Robby and Carmen’s desperation for a “second chance at love”.
I am not sure where the writers are going with this but despite my skepticism, I still have faith in them and intend to see how it all plays out.
9:49
Terry Silver: Do the crane Danny boy
Daniel: You want a Crane kick you got one
😂
He just speaks to the people
Can't wait to hear what dojo name gets submitted for the new competition : ) Maybe "Miyagi Fang"? Or something new that is so fantastically awesome that everyone is immediately onboard with it and inspired by it. Matching the humorous energy of when Johnny introduced Eagle Fang but in the sense that it is actually as awesome as Johnny obviously thought that Eagle Fang was when he was explaining it.
That is interesting.
@bARRY lARRY It wasn't mentioned that I saw so I felt it worth mentioning. There are plenty of other exciting things that have also been talked about. I mean, we are talking hundreds of years of tradition within Miyagi Do. It's obviously a very emotional topic based on the discussion that Johnny and Daniel had during season 4.
@@JohnOkleberry Johnny is onboard with Miyagi-Do. That should be the name.
I don't think we've seen the end of Miguel's father. I think they kept the Mexico story short on purpose. Similar to how they kept the Japan trip in S3 short. Most of us never saw a Chozen team up at that point. I think during the world championship, Miguel's father will possibly be there with one his fighters and he'll recognize Miguel. It sets up s6 or possibly season 7 with Miguel's father being the main bad guy and kreese sacrificing his life to save Johnny and Carmen from him.
I like this. I think a lot of shows would have dragged that on for an entire season. Glad that didn’t happen!
They gave every one gave equal development and story Daniel finishing silver, chozen and silver fight 😢, Johnny vs the fist, tory and sam vs sensai kim, Robby vs Miguel and redemption, Robby and Miguel kicking some Cobra Kai, And I am so glad they avoided romance stuff and focused more on character building, hell waiting for John Kreese entry in season 6,
Chozen is such a treasure. I loved every scene with him in it. What a great season. I have no fkkn idea why I like this so much. The whole concept screams Cringe-Reboot. But goddamn is this show fantastic! The writing is SuperB!
I totally agree. Welcome to the channel.
its feels illegal being this early
Luckily the police don't exist in the Miyagiverse.
This 100% could have been the final season of the series if they added like an epilogue episode after. Overall I’m my opinion this show only needs one more season to end gracefully. There’s no way they need to drag out the show
I agree. I tend to think they have two more seasons planned though.
@@watchparty1 I also enjoyed how season 5’s final episode basically subverted expectations where instead of them waiting till the tournament to confront him like they usually do for cobra Kai, they basically said “Fuck It, we’re kicking his ass RIGHT NOW” that was cool to see
Cobra Kai remains a shining example of howobra Kai remains a shining example of how to correctly reimagine and reboot an existing IP to satisfy both the original and a new generation of fans.
Waiting on Netflix to call in Hilary swank, she had a whole damn movie with Mr. Miyagi
I like that Daniel finally did what half the Cobra Kai fandom wanted him to do for years. Stand down and stop worrying about Cobra Kai. And everyone from Johnny to his daughter to Amanda had to push him to get back in the fight. It’s the like the writers were laughing at all the weirdos who think Daniel is the real villain just because he didn’t want Cobra Kai to exist
Agree - season one and five are insanely good.
I was screaming and shouting my head of 😄
I can't wait for season 6 and the Sekai Taikai tournament and also what the writers will do to John Kreese and Terry Silver
Students are what makes a dojo and Cobra Kai has none. Maybe unlike the All Valley, the Sekai Taikai might take action.
I hope season 6 is the build up to the tournament and season 7 is the tournament with every episode focusing on it and the different things they might have to do outside of 1 on 1 combat. It fits with how the shows been laid out so far. S1 tournament and then 2 and 3 didn't. S4 had a tournament and then 5 and potentially 6 don't. This stops the competitions from feeling too repetitive and gives them room to have fights take place elsewhere like the high school, LaRusso house and cobra kai dojo.
@@extraplain2412 same man
@@extraplain2412 Let’s pray!!! COBRA KAI NEEDS AT LEAST 7 SEASONS😩😩🐍
Miguel’s gotta cut that hair, he looked awesome in seasons 1-3.
I dont knw why people think crane kick is a GOAT move lol its sooooo predictable
Cobra Kai is the best anime of all time
Does anyone feel like Daniel’s fight with Silver was too easy though? He didn’t get struck once, is he really better than Chozen? I guess they were trying to say Daniel finally reached Miyagi level of Karate.
They were drunk. Silver just had a fight to the death with Chozen before he fought Daniel. Terry silver will be back.
@@blinksstayfresh2524 I hope so!!! Terry is my fav
I agree on one thing. That Miguel's trip to Mexico to find his biological dad was rushed, that last only 2 episodes and should've been 3 episodes. It was strange that Miguel never said that he is the son. However, there was a bond between the two seeming as closer to family and the father treated Miguel as extended family. I'm not sure if its being saved for season 6, but I doubt it.
The whole Sam and Miguel breakup was more in different light. I see it as mutual breakup. It's like they need to take a break, need some breathing room to focus on getting their own personal lives back on track. Miguel was more mature, he was more understanding instead being demanding and being desperate to hold on to the one he loves, he just let go, but deep down inside he was heartbroken with tears once he walked away and purposely dropped the pendant on the ground. When Robby was having a friendly conversation with Sam, Miguel did not get in the way or acted jealous, while Hawk told that "Robby is moving in on your girl."
The dojo fight scene was badass. That was shades of Bruce Lee's The Chinese Connection while there was dojo war between the Jingwoo school and Japanese Martial Arts school. That movie is a classic and I recommend people to watch that movie.
didnt like how they brought Barnes into the mix
The significance of the painting... its called "The Storm on Galilee" and is actually priceless as it was stolen in 1990, whereabouts unknown.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Storm_on_the_Sea_of_Galilee
The thing that most people are clearly missing about the significance of the painting is the "Easter" egg that Netflix had a series called "This Is a Robbery: The World's Biggest Art Heist"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Is_a_Robbery
about this exact painting.
It was a great f*cking season. It's a great f*cking show. I love these characters and I care about each and every one of them. Full marks all around!
For people who are interested, here is the exact timeline when certain events took place during Season 4. When Demetri hacked the Cobra Kai Computer following datas were visible:
Saturday, May 11, 2019: Prom
Sunday, May 12, 2019, 8,15-8,45 a.m: Silver beats down Stingray
Monday, May 20, 2019, 10 a.m: Tory confronts Silver about the payed off referee.
Most probably the All Valley Tournament took place on Saturday May 18th. This means Tory confronted Silver already two days after the the tournament.
Maybe the Mexico arc was rushed but there's only so much that can be done for a 10 episode season where each episode is less than an hour.
Amazing 🙌
Thank you!
I don't think we have seen the last of Miguel's dad. I bet he has some shady ties with some undesirable people that will rear its head while Johnny and Carmen are trying to have a blended family.
It didn't surprise me at all that Tory was working with Kreese. In fact, I fully expected it!
me too. But, I thin k she also should have been talking to Stingray and Robby! It took them awhile to expose Stingray in season 5. It had to happen!
I think Season 5 was great absolutely Season 3 is still my favorite season my only problem with Season 5 is they made Mike Barnes go out to easily in the finale I think they could have made Mike and Johnny team up against the senses or they could have made Mike save Johnny after Terry Silver left.
Brilliant from start to finish the way they got the characters to blend in together as a unit again was great the new storylines and just about everything else and the fights at the end were brilliant & the ending with Kreese escaping just set it up
It was super subtle, but Mike Barnes redemption was a reference to breaking bad. Jesse spoke about finding inner peace through woodworking quite a few times.
That may be more of a coincidence than intended reference. Nice catch though. I haven't seen you around in a while. Welcome back.
@@watchparty1 yeah man, I never really left. I'm always watching and soaking in the Cobra Kai meta.
I thought It was a coincidence too at first, but I rewatched the scenes back to back, and the dialogue is almost word for word. Even the shot composition is somewhat similar. If it is just a coincidence, it's the most impressive coincidence I've ever witnessed lmao
@@iamlordapollo I suppose it could be. They did say they always intended for Barnes to be in furniture. Not really sure how they got that specific profession. Thanks for sticking around!
@@watchparty1 huh, I didn't know that. I guess if that was always the intention, then if anything, it's probably just the line itself that's a tiny reference, not the entire choice of career path.
This season is freaking fantastic!!! I'm just worried that season 6 is gonna flop. Virtually every conflict, character arc and relationship is now settled and laid to rest. I mean yeah, Kreese has escaped prison and Terry's students can have a bit of redemption, not to mention the upcoming tournament, but I just feel like it might not be at the same level as everything that came before. Of course, I hope I'm wrong. I do love this show, but I loved Game of Thrones, too and we all know how that turned out.
Luckily the creative team here has a much stronger grasp on where the show needs to go.
Am I the only one that thinks Silver should not have been arrested at the end? After all, the kids broke into his dojo, Johnny broke into his house. Yeah what Silver did wasn't good but it wasn't illegal. This is something that should have been taken up with the karate council or whatever it's called. Loved the series but didn't like the last 10 minutes of the whole series.
Edit: I can't spell for crap. * the.
True about Silver. And it underlines he will get free very easy. Of course Daniel, Johnny, Chozen and Barnes will tell the police they all got hurt by Silver or his henchmen, but i am sure Terry has the money to get the best lawyers and he will get out of jail very easy.
Lyoto Machida knocked out Randy Couture with the crane kick
It felt good to see stable relationships in the end but I still think seasons 1 and 2 were better. But it’s like a mole on a supermodel it is very well done and this had potential but some of the Kenny stuff was dumb
Personally I think the Mexico arc ain't quite over yet. Hector Salazar is far too dangerous and powerful and we see him look at a photo with Carmen and Yaya in it, so he WILL figure Miguel out. One other thing I find interesting is the Sekai Taikai is NOT specified as an under-18 event, so it's possible the members of The Fist could compete.
I expected more from the story of Miguel in Mexico. I hope we will see more of Hector Salazar, I liked him a lot. I didn’t like Eli losing to Kenny, I know they did it to make Sam and Tory redeem themselves, but they made Eli fight as if he were still “lip”. I liked Chozen and Mike Barnes a lot, and Jessica was a pleasant surprise that made Amanda come to her senses.
I thought they should have done more with Miguel's dad. It seemed like a wasted storyline to have it end so easily. Would have been great if Miguel told him he was his son and then tried to leave. Then this guy came back into their lives to cause trouble. Would have been great to see Johnny and Miguel deal with this dangerous drug dealer guy in the picture. Would have been a good break too from the dojo rivalry. This whole season just felt so repetitive. LaRusso still obsessed with bringing down Cobra Kai and the same old story continues...
@@juliomiranda7013 although the facts suggest that Hector is a criminal, we never saw him doing any illegal deal. When he asked Miguel to give him his cell phone, he saw a picture of Miguel with Carmen, so he probably knows he is his son (or maybe that's what they wanted us to believe). He seems to care about Miguel but didn't know how to say it. The tone of his words "caudate mucho cabronctio" says a lot. I don't think he is interested in making any trouble for Carmen, if he appears again it will be to try to have a relationship with Miguel. Daniel trying to bring Cobra Kai down is more than just than just a rivalry, it is a crusade to prevent Kreese and Silver to keep training thugs that would to other kids the same things Kreese's and Silver's students did to Daniel.
Why everyone forget about the Say Kaay Tay kaay tournement
I loved this season, I do wished they used Mike “Fucking” Barns a little more and the last episode felt a little rushed. The tear jerking moments this season was well spread out, I liked that.
This was my favorite season since season 1
Beyond words how good this was!
Give us 20 episodes in season 6
Yes, the crane kick can be used in a fight and it was- specifically in a UFC fight. Lyoto Machida vs Randy Couture, that kick ended the fight and knocked out Randy’s tooth in the process.
Nobody talking about how The writers did Hawk dirty
WATCHPARTY: Yeah S5 was definitely the best. I have a feeling we will find out a lot about Sensei Kim, her life and her relationship with Kreese which I think may be more like a brother/sister relationship. Also when they do reconnect again can you see their relationship going and ending in somewhat of the same manner that Silvers and Kreese's did in season 4 given that Kreese does see Tory like a granddaughter & given how Sensei Kim treated Tory could potentially drive a wedge between them?
I'm not sure there'll be a wedge between the two. There'll gonna be linked up.
@@watchparty1 It’s possible but how do you think that he will feel when he finds out about what she did to Tory?
@@melissapas8474 he knows Tory lost faith in Silver's CK because of him. Kim saw her lose faith. It may even make sense.
@@watchparty1 Yeah it does make sense. I am just curious to see if there relationship will remain in tact when he finds out what she to Tory (someone who thinks of like a grand daughter)?
@@watchparty1 The painting that barnes stole from is stole from silver at the end .Christ Storm On Lake Of Galilee in real life was stolen from the art gallery in Boston in 90s. Look for it to play a role in next season
Machida showed the crane kick does work.
note:why wasnt womder boy in any fight scenes?
I really don't see how people don't see that this is the worst season finale out of all the seasons. If this was a series finale fine but what exactly am I supposed to look forward to in another season? Silver and Cobra kai are dismantled. Crease escapes from prison so who exactly are the villains now? It's not like he can just go back and reopen Cobra Kai now that he's a fugitive. If this was the route they were going they should have called it a series finale because there is absolutely nothing to draw me into another season.
Every moment of Chozen: "You are about to commit arson, i'll provide more gas."
Perhaps a little bird tells Miguel's father that he has a son. So the father Quest will be the father looking for the son. That would make a pretty cool Arc in the future.
Perhaps but more likely after the world tournament he hears of him.
@@watchparty1 Hello watch party if you remember me I gave you the tattoo analysis it says I did like your observations of Kim but I believe there's one thing that you overlooked Kim is not fighting to preserve the legacy of Cobra Kai silver she was fighting to preserve the legacy of the legacy of her Her father style Again I grieved Chris was trained under her father silver was trained under her father the legacy of the martial arts is what she wants to see reached the sky tie Again I grieved Chris was trained under her father silver was trained under her father the legacy of the martial arts is what she wants to see reached the sekaiy tiaki
@@watchparty1 I do like your analysis of the Miguel trip and I believe when you say it's too short yes that could be certainly a certainly one aspect. But I believe s fans what we'd probably did was read too much into the character and he was not really supposed to be more at more than a discovery point from Miguel.
@@watchparty1 During the Korean War, Sato met Kim Sun-Yung, who was well known for teaching many American soldiers. While he did not speak much about him, Sato held a lot of anger towards Master Kim.
By 1972, Sato started training many people on Okinawa as part of his own Dojo, which included his nephew, Chozen Toguchi. One day this according to karate kid wiki. So after he said Cheers in the fashion of an Okinawan not Japanese He was skeptical and probably consulted Kim or his other contacts. Remember silver does say that he has a lot of Japanese friends indirectly
I don't really see the writer, director's wanting to go on with Miguel's father's. Just like Johnny's father sid we can establish that he was a very mean and dirty person. I think at this point the character's self has shown that he doesn't have any feet have any feelings for Carmen or Yaya or even his present day wife or son. The purpose was to show what a vile individual he was and why Carmen had to leave. His sole purpose Miguel's father was money and he wants to keep his business running. We won't see any emotional attachments even if he discovers Miguel's true identity.
I really dont know how they can beat Season 5...
This season was so amazing best season yet but one small criticism I have is I feel Barnes was underutilized in the final fight
He just showed up, he’ll be back in more seasons. Look at Chozen in season 3? He was only in one episodes and now? He’s an important character now. You just have to be patient, Barnes will be back