Yes, mine, as well. Sounds like JJ was given a Hot Chocolate “cocktail”., with various additives. Alcohol, no less! So sick to think of this! Prayers for the loving people who were blessed to be part of these children’s lives. 🧡🙏🧡🙏🧡
@@yanniegrannie My mom taught me to be compassionate even to the worst of people. She reminded me that even the worst of people were not born to this world that way. I have had to work hard to feel compassion for Lori. That she sacrificed her children to have a life with a man that chose instead of her children is awful. But she will be judged for that so I pity her soul. That's the best I can do for her.
@Lynne Gackstetter your comment shows a perfect balance between reality and kindness and a compassion for those affected by Loris' heinous activities, your Mom did good 🙂. There are just so many victims in this case, genuinely good people who have been shattered by Chad and Loris choices
The juxtaposition of Lori & Chad dancing on the beach while these two innocent kids are rotting in the ground is mind blowing. I'm glad her sister called her out on EXACTLY that fact. Disgusting.
That Chad tried to debunk & distract from his limb burning & diurnal racoon shooting to the loving wife he'd soon kill as well and profit off of is beyond evil & was all so selfish, cowardly, unjustifiable, & unnecessary. All the victims & their loved ones deserved so much more & better than this. If either Chad or Lori had any microscopic remnant of love, conscience, morality, heart, shame, or remorse, they would admit everything, make full detailed confessions of everything, & beg everyone's forgiveness, not put all the grieving loved ones and others through more. Instead, they've just put more people through this, all the jurors & alternates & court personnel, the community, law enforcement & investigators, lawyers, journalists, family members, friends, people who helped search and who cared for the victims; there's just no end to the selfishness of Lori and Chad; no bottom to them. To spin their greedy selfish evil as divine will is blasphemy, perjury, and fraud. I wonder if JJ or Tylee even knew their Mom was happily heading off to Hawaii and leaving them behind after helping to set them up for and hand them off to be slaughtered. I wonder if Lori will decide to turn on Chad to try to save herself? What horrible depravity. These snakes were so blessed and destroyed all the most beautiful and precious gifts entrusted to them. It's unconscionable.
@@NormanBatesNumbers excellent summation! Lori and Chads greed, lust and actions are so depraved it is almost beyond belief. The fact that these two were living in Hawaii on social security and life insurance benefit money from people they slaughtered is hard to process. The two kids buried in Chads backyard in the “pet” cemetery. Then look at those pictures of their “unholy marriage” on a beach in Hawaii. It’s sickening. No other words for it.
He has nothing to defend his client with. At least, this way, Lori can't sulk about not being represented properly and appeal for a mistrial. In a way, this guy is making sure the court only goes through this "song and dance" once. Chad's lawyer is watching this closely, and no doubt advising his client to plead guilty to avoid the death penalty. If Chad fights this, he is a dead man.... probably end up a dead man in jail too. Oh well, no loss there.
Wish he could bave told the goofball where "microplastics" are found and how you get them in your body - not in your nose inside a plastic bag, but thru some bodies of water, and theyre so micro you cant see them... What are you breathing? Air... and then it runs out and you die... Duh!
I’d like to see Lori and Chad get those autopsy photos as a Christmas card every year. Just as a reminder of the horrific things they did to those children.
@@sambia7295 They may not care, but it says something that she won’t look at them and that they didn’t want them shown in court. Everyone said she used to be a living devoted mother, and I believe one day, it will affect her….maybe years down the road, after she has spent time away from Chad.
The Defense has become nothing leas than a circus act! Every tax payer in that state should be outraged that their tax dollars are wasted on such a clown of an attorney ! He should never be paid by the state again ! I wonder how many he has been appointed to defend that have filed Ineffective counsel motions? Again costing tax payers ! I continue to be shocked at his unprofessional attitude his lack of preparedness and his low IQ grasping!
Yes, agree 💯 superb testimony - asphyxiation by plastic bag, which makes it impossible to breathe 😕 you Defense Attorney TWAT. 💙💜💜💙 RIP JJ, Tylee, Tammy, and Charles.
The defence using slang phrases at times such as "do your thing" this a professional man in a court of law! What an embarrassment. They also tend to argumentative and rude toward the witnesses
It makes me SO ANGRY that poor JJ was most likely awake and aware as they did those terrible things to him . One of my greatest phobias is not being able to breathe. I hope Tylee atleast wasnt aware. I know that doesnt really help anything as they are still gone, but to add terror and pain to knowing people you love are hurting you is just beyond the beyond
I agree. Having children with disabilities I couldn’t imagine the thoughts that went through his little mind. I keep thinking the reason Tylee was dismembered other than the rituals but because she was heavier and couldn’t be lifted or placed in a bag. 😭😭😭😭🤬
I can't imagine seeing things like this every day in their job performance and going home to sleep at night. It takes such a strong person to do this job. I'd have to be in some serious therapy to do that job.
Chad and Lori Daybell are absolutely heartless monsters. I keep remembering seeing them in Hawaii on tv when everyone was looking for these precious children. It’s hard to imagine how they just went on with their lives after murdering 4 people?
I still believe she also conspired to have Tylee's dad murdered too, along with her lap dog brother. Who know how many others have suffered untimely deaths after crossing her.
They weren’t in heaven playing with the cute angels. They were tortured, dead and buried in the cold, hard ground. Don’t you understand that all this was done in another, twisted religion citing some kind of god? No god. No heaven. No hell. Just criminal, nasty, heartless, selfish humans.
Oh god this is beyond awful the physical and emotional torture of the two children and all other family members is beyond horrific! I cannot imagine the pain and horror they have all suffered!
I feel even worse for Kay & Larry Woodcock who allowed Lori & Charles to adopt JJ. They believed they were giving him a home where he would have a full time stay at home Mom & excellent schools & resources for his special needs. They couldn't possibly have foreseen what would happen, but I'm sure they feel regret & anguish everyday over giving JJ up to them. This will go on until the day they die.
Chad had to have been the one who killed JJ. Remembering Mel’s account of the night Chad took JJ to “bed” and then came out with scratches on his neck. JJ was not seen after that.
Chad is facing murder charges for asphyxiating Tammy. JJ was asphyxiated to death. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if JJ died directly at his hands, rather than his uncle's, Alex Cox. Either way, the three monsters are demons. Horrible beings.
@@mysticalmargaret6105 yup I'd say youre right about Chad doing it and Alex was roped into the burials..😒so disgusted by this as a man who wasn't blessed with having kids it's heartbreaking hearing this😔..
@Mia Jackson all of this is vial. These people are demon filled. So difficult for any of us to truly figure out who did what. But they all had a role. Even Melanie Gibbs. How in the world do you not realize something wrong and sick was going on when you see those scratches on Chad. And them talking about JJ climbing the fridge. They had to add that JJ knocked the picture of Christ. That had to be put in.....
I am also grateful that the autopsy photos were not released to the public. That is a good thing. Those are private and although I know the the jurors have to see them but not the general public.
I checked on my kids before i watched this 17,15,13, and 8 after hearing this I had to go back and kiss their foreheads as they sleep. Im sure in the morning my teens will be like mom what the heck why did you come in kissing on me last night. A mom is supposed to love and protect her kids and lori did not. How she let anyone harm her babies I will never understand!
I think she took part in it. A psychic who predicted how these kids died exactly down to a white bag on JJ’s head and black bag on his body and duct tape and described Tylee’s dismemberment in January (months before they were found) said Lori took part in putting the bag over JJ and she beat Tylee repeatedly in the head while Alex or Chad strangled her and beat her way beyond necessary to kill the poor girl. I’m inclined to believe it although I’ve always been told to stay away from this kind of thing. I was shocked to find out this psychic was correct! She said they dismembered Tylee in Chad’s workshop on his property. So sad!
Was thankful my grandkids came to visit so I could do the same with them! ❤ Lori is no Mom in my opinion! Being able to give birth doesn't make a Mom to me, just as depositing seeds doesn't make Dad! My teens never mentioned the midnight Mom prayer watches! Lol
What a fantastic Doctor, Dr Garth Warren. The fact the defence is going off movies is very scary.. It's almost like you care more about that sweet boy than his own mother did.
@@annohalloran6020 when he kept asking had he looked up the nose, the Dr had to explain how JJ would have died with a plastic bag over his head, the fact there was no air left!! I can't quite believe he would push that so hard. JJ didn't put that bag over his own head and bury himself 6 feet under. Is she saying she's not guilty and that Chad is or that neither are do you know?
Dr. Garth Warren is highly qualified and educated. Has done numerous homicide autopsies. The defense attorney's questions were ludicrous!! He grilled him why he didn't check sinuses or throat for evidence of plastics. Doc said that's never done. And then the defense attorney stated "he was going off of movies he saw." Dr. Warren: "That's scary." Priceless! Tylee and JJ died horrific, traumatizing deaths. JJ had evidence of a struggle so he was fighting for his life. We don't know what Tylee went through but I am sure it was just as bad. All at the hands of their Mother and new step dad, Chad. We do not know for sure if Alex was involved in its entirety. I say this due to Alex's last words stating Lori and Chad were going to make him the fall guy. Chad could have set Alex up by calling him over to his house/yard knowing his cell phone would locate him there. There's too many unanswered questions. JJ was bound. That goes along with Chad and Lori's religious beliefs. Bound the evil spirit. Tylee was burned. Same applies with religious beliefs: Burn evil spirits by fire. Which btw, Melanie Gibb had full knowledge of burning by fire. Just sayin'. I hope both Chad and Lori receive "prison justice." What they did to these precious children is beyond any human comprehension. My heart goes out to the Woodstocks and all family and loved ones. This is heart wrenching!!
Well the defense attorney has to try something…-anything or else the guilty can claim ineffective counsel later. Don’t blame the attorney for doing their job even in a hopeless case where the guilt is so clear.
How could Anyone do this to Children… or anyone for that matter! I hope Lori listened and Saw, this Evidence! These are Your Children! Prayers for the family of these Children 🙏🙏🙏
I think she should have been made to watch and look instead of turning her back, She's a fruit basket , she's worse than evil idk even why she gets a trial! I get it but she don't deserve it! As a parent myself? omg my kids are everything no matter what! hurt em and I'd rain hell fire on whoever hurt them!
I'm still listening, almost done. Tylee was burned in the fire pit. I am baffled how none of the neighbors smelled burning flesh, bones and organs?! This has a distinct, putrid, awful smell. J.D. Salinger, who helped liberate concentration camps in World War II, told his daughter, “You never really get the smell of burning flesh out of your nose entirely. No matter how long you live.”
Condolences 🙏 to all family members who loved these children and have been damaged by this horrific situation...RIP JJ, Tylee, Charles and I suspect Joe Ryan...may justice be served...❤
I'm also wondering if Lori had anything to do with the mysterious death of her sister back in 98... She might have wanted the sister out of the way so that she could have full access to her niece.
Defense has nothing to loose. By the way he is a bit wacko that lawyer and unpleasant voice. The jury already made their mind up. Even if she was, which I don't believe, under the influence of Daybell what mother let this happen knowingly. Exit with Lori.
He just described the manner/cause of death of my daughter with a gun shot wound to her head. It looked as though either of them could have shot her. It was undetermined. It was like he was describing her. God help everyone trying to cope with and understand the loss of these 2 precious children. 😢 I've lost two and I just cannot imagine living with it being at my own hands. I just can't understand. 😢😢😢
As a mom of a sweet little boy with Autism… I cannot imagine! This breaks my heart so much. He was already in a world that was so much harder for him to navigate and the people who are supposed to love and protect him didn’t! He was loved and WANTED by his grandparents! I truly believe she murdered him for the SS money and in retaliation for Kay getting the life insurance money. Sweet JJ RIP 😭
My heart goes out to all the people, friends and family that have to go through this horrendous time. May your hearts and minds be healed and come to peace in time. 😢
The sketch artist has really come into her own. She has captured the emotions (or lack of) in the courtroom. I appreciate her work. I would love her to capture the audience especially you, Nate.
🤣 I’m sure he’d try to tell everyone how it doesn’t happen like that in the movies! Or ask for a stunt double. Seriously though, he is a piece of work. Talking to the witness like he has no idea what he’s doing. Never mind his years of education and real world experience.
The Loser's attorney doesn't want those autopsy photos to be shown to ANYONE! What is he so afraid of? The disgusting truth of what really happened to those two children? Why in the hell does he think they are in court? He has annoyed me throughout this trial. Both of them.
I agree. I know it's their job to give her a vigorous defense, but they don't have to be dicks while doing it. Not only that but how redundant some of their questions are, it's like the prosecutor already asked that, ask something different! Like when the prosecutor asked the forensic pathologist about his education and then the defense attorney turns around and asks the exact same questions. If I was on the jury I would be annoyed with that. And just their tone of voice sometimes, they can ask questions without being so condescending. It's no wonder they lost.
My God, how can a Mother sit there and listen to this horror about her child. It’s beyond sick. There’s a special place in hell for Lori, Chad and Alex
Lori, does not want to look at the photos, but she needs them engraved into her head, it is engraved in our minds the cruel and appalling things that were done to these poor innocent children & their spouses! I am still floored s to no one bringing up that chad was a grave digger and worked for a cemetery!!
I don't know how you could have lunch after this pathologist testified .After hearing and seeing this, I would need a pack of cigarettes and a couple of shots of wiskey..Horrible to hear, let alone see his pictures. I would definitely expect sleeplessness and nightmares .
My heart breaks for Tylee she appeared in those pictures to love JJ more than anything especially showing more love than the wicked Lori. May Lori and Chad rot in hell for eternity.
Should take lori down the the morgue and have her sit in a room with her children Maybe have her last memory of them be just as impactful as it is to everyone having to see and hear about it that loved those babies
I think it will be interesting to see if Chad tries to negotiate the DP off the table in exchange for the truth of what really happened?..Since Lori's defense is it was the men, I would like to see how Chad plays his hand moving forward.
Very true. I feel like his lawyers were there to see how her trial is going to feel it out since we should be getting a date hopefully by next week. I feel like that would be his only option. It may be hard to "prove" Lori's involvement (conspiracy), but you cannot deny Chad's and Alex's. Now unless he and Lori believe he will be a martyr and this is the plan is another story.
This is the most gruesome horrible case I have ever heard. Poor babies 😥😥😥 I wonder what the monster Lori is thinking while this man is talking!!!!! HORRIBLE
She is completely detached and delusional! The few tears she supposedly shed, were an act imo... either that or she wiped a few tears away for herself!! I believe these pictures made her realize she's going down
Imo, the defense trying to wiggle out of the autopsy photos being shown is laughable!!! To top it off Lori has the audacity to ask if she can leave the courtroom? Are you kidding me? I mean, she does realize why she's in that chair right? She conspired to kill them! And even if she was absent from the scene where they were shamelessly murdered SHE knew dam well what was happening!😮😢 there are no words for what kind of person she is! If she call even be referred to as a human being
I don't know if anybody else has noticed through this trial, but it seems like that alarm goes off when there's details spoken about the kids and specifically and more so Tylee. 😮
might be a stretch but i just started rewatching how to get away with murder and i’m overwhelmed with the creepy feeling that those idiots replicated sam keating’s death with poor tylee. episode 1:9 shows sam being bludgeoned, burned, dismembered and then put into black bags. idk why but after what we’ve heard abt alex, chad and lori; i can see them believing the show and it’s title could help them complete their mission. it’s really a tragedy to see a mom who can take part in such evil in the supposed name of god. may the lord bless and allow rest to tylee’s beautiful soul and for jj as well poor babies🥺
Maybe the defense attorney was looking for a way to try and blame Co-Vid as the cause of death of JJ? Guess they have to grasp at straws… there’s absolutely no defense for these horrific actions!
The defense attorney seems a little dense. And he's rude to the pathologist. He is trying and failing to discredit the doctor, but he managed to discredit his own self. Rude and dense is not a good combination.
I think they gave him NyQuil (which has alcohol as an ingredient) to knock him out. I believe Lori carried him over to Alex’s apartment where they killed him together. One put duck tape on his mouth and then held his arms down while the other put the bag over his head and duck taped it around his head.
I don't understand why would it be inappropriate to view the photographs on the big monitor? It's the REALITY of what those two CHILDREN have been through, what SOMEBODY did to them!!!!!!!!!
So What Dr Warren is telling us all, that the Children Where Drugged, What Discusting Coward Would do Such a thing?Only Evil Monster Work in Such Heinous Ways!!!!RIP 2 BEAUTIFUL ANGELS JJ👼⚘🙏🕊➕& TYLEE👼⚘🙏🕊➕
Lori should be made to watch this and tortured until she admits her exact part. And I hate to say that because I’m a Christian woman 😩 But for the love of those children, who could EVER ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN?!?!! And in the name of Jesus??? Blasphemy! I just can’t comprehend this 😭😭
Not surprised a Christian recommends torture … religious people can be the most horrible, righteous people around. They do all kinds of horrible things but say it’s ok. god made them do it. You and Lori and chad have much in common. Poor deluded you.
How many more concessions is this Judge going to give to the Defense? Looks like they are running the show for Lori. Sidebars etc audio visuals etc. I wish this circus was over and done with and Lori either euthanised or locked up until she no longer breathes the same air as the rest of us. As this goes on it becomes more difficult to contemplate the suffering of Tylee and JJ. May she suffer from lack of air like JJ. In prison she will be viewed as a child killer and suffer the consequences of prison justice.
I forced myself to hear all of this. i did it as if I too, were a juror. i also did it, trying to keep an open mind. This is just beyond gruesome. my heart is sick with grief for these 2 innocent children. There was just NO need for these murders ! There is NO justification. The Woodcocks stated many times they were willing to take these children off of Lori's hands. So, why murder ? It has to be out of sheer ------without mitigation ----- greed & rage. The only remedy we have is DEATH. if anyone meets this remedy it is, for certain, Lori Vallow .She was their Mother ------she HAD to be fully aware of the deaths of her 2 children. She bears full legal, & without doubt, moral responsibility for these unspeakable deaths. --------MJL, 76 y/o
I totally hear you on this- Money is the only real reasons for Chad Daybell to be able to complete his cult mission & she was with him hook line & sinker.
I was waiting for the defence to ask: are you sure it was a white plastic bag? How do you know the bag used to be pink and turned white? Are you sure JJ is dead? Desperate, seriously inane questions. And then quoting a movie he saw as the expertise this experienced pathologist should have used instead of his knowledge. Insane.
I heard this before about the cross... so let's me get this straight... the defense has more knowledge based on Hollywood hmm to quote Trump YOUR FIRED!!
What would the defence object to colour photographs? That’s how those poor children were murdered … in full colour. Is he trying to somehow minimize the horror? He can’t fool anyone. In black or white or colour, the murders were real.
With all the whispers that these sensitive mics pick up, at approx 36:20 does anyone hear the phrase "Chad's trying so hard to get in," like I heard with earbuds? Of course I don't know who is saying it and I could be wrong on exactly what is being said, but it happened right after the microphones stopped some really bad, eerie feedback. I thought someone may have been sarcastically saying it since Chad believes in "portals" and teleporting his being from place to place... Lol. 🙄😉 Good day all, hold your loved ones tight! ❤️
@@nonmihiseddeo4181I cant believe that's even an option.. especially in sudden deaths...terrifying that it came so close to never being determined what really happened to her..😣 hopefully justice will come soon..
Especially given how many people to whom Chad "prophesized" her death, how she had been suspiciously shot at from someone in a vehicle (she thought it was a paint ball gun?), her life insurance, and Chad's affair with Lori and all the "dark" ratings Chad was characterizing her as. Charles tried to warn her and reach out to her, but underestimated Lori's sociopathy and warned/threatened Lori that Charles would be contacting Tammy, so Chad and/or Lori likely were able to prebunk or intercept and delete some or all of the messages and contact efforts by Charles once he figured out Lori was sending fake emails to Tammy pretending to be Charles and others providing invitations of work and employment so that Chad & Lori could hook up without Tammy realizing what Chad was up to ...
The public SHOULD be able to view those photographs and the juriors SHOULD BE ABLE to see these photos in large format to view the incredible horrific death J J endured by that MONSTER....
I realize the defence is there to save the defendant so there job is to point things out, that maybe give her an out, an excuse etc etc But I really hate how he puts people down ,question their abilities and make sarcastic remarks! You can do the same thing without being a jerk! I’m hoping it works against the defence in the jurors minds. And I hope it’s not going to cast any doubt on Lori because I they let her go, or give her a minimal sentence, I think I give up believing in the USA ! He’s is questioning this coroners ability, and talks about methods that he “ got from the movies”! Yet no one is objecting ! How do you disagree on something that’s not even factual ? Yet no objections from the other side? Maybe they are so sure they got this in the bag,but we have seen others go free, while everyone knew they were guilty 🤷♀️ I just think they need to be more aggressive !
Not surprising that they’re not present After indulging Lori with her Narcissism and allowing her devious and pathological behavior to go unchecked for years they’re unable to acknowledge or accept the reality of all the devastation and destruction of the aftermath ……
@@hectorstrachan - Stop that, Hector! Imagine instead that they could be in a state of deep shock & also be grieving for the incredible devastation of innocent lives? No one saw this coming. (except Charles) Impossible to imagine that one’s own grandchildren would be slaughtered so cruelly by their mother. Hector, May I gently suggest that blaming Lori’s parents without personally knowing them is an added cruelty to an already unbearable tragedy, one that many will never recover from? I, too, am outraged and furious. But please place the blame upon the murderers, not anyone else including grandparents. May God have mercy upon the grief stricken family members. May the victims Rest In Peace.
They probably thought leaving Lori's sister Stacy to be starved to death, (injected with insulin but given no food) by Alex while the whole family partied in Hawaii, was a fine idea because after all, she was going to leave them to be with her husband and daughter....but what a terrible example to set. Murdering your kid and going to Hawaii to party is simply a family tradition at this point.
Because of the apparent drugs used speaks to how premeditated JJs death was. I am sure Alex had used the date rape drug before.Lori would have planned this out asking Alex to supply her with this drug. I also think he gave it to tylee as I assume she was also raped by Alex.
The definition an attended death is also laughable. Doctors are really near a person when the die in a hospital unless they have coded out and a team has tried to recover them. Most in hospital deaths are either alone, with a friend or family member or at times a nurse of some sort including aides.
It’s not just that. My mother died of ALS. She was under the care of her primary care Dr as well as a palliative care team at home. They provided documentation so that when she passed away, at home, we wouldn’t have to endure police/autopsy etc. stating that her death was expected...
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To all the people who loved these two children and you had to hear these details let me say how sorry I am. My heart breaks for you all.💜💔💜
Yes, mine, as well. Sounds like JJ was given a Hot Chocolate “cocktail”., with various additives. Alcohol, no less! So sick to think of this!
Prayers for the loving people who were blessed to be part of these children’s lives.
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Your compassion is a beautiful thing ❤ the world needs more people like you. I echo your sentiment 💔
Taylee looks so much like my own daughter and they are basically the same age. This story breaks my heart; Lori is despicable
@@yanniegrannie My mom taught me to be compassionate even to the worst of people. She reminded me that even the worst of people were not born to this world that way. I have had to work hard to feel compassion for Lori. That she sacrificed her children to have a life with a man that chose instead of her children is awful. But she will be judged for that so I pity her soul. That's the best I can do for her.
@Lynne Gackstetter your comment shows a perfect balance between reality and kindness and a compassion for those affected by Loris' heinous activities, your Mom did good 🙂. There are just so many victims in this case, genuinely good people who have been shattered by Chad and Loris choices
The juxtaposition of Lori & Chad dancing on the beach while these two innocent kids are rotting in the ground is mind blowing. I'm glad her sister called her out on EXACTLY that fact. Disgusting.
Agree 100 percent. That Hawaiian Beach fiasco while her kids were buried in Chads backyard “pet” cemetery is beyond comprehension. Lori & Chad rot
IT'S UNBELIEVABLE HOW COLD AND SELFISH AND EVIL CHAD AND LORI ARE...
That Chad tried to debunk & distract from his limb burning & diurnal racoon shooting to the loving wife he'd soon kill as well and profit off of is beyond evil & was all so selfish, cowardly, unjustifiable, & unnecessary. All the victims & their loved ones deserved so much more & better than this. If either Chad or Lori had any microscopic remnant of love, conscience, morality, heart, shame, or remorse, they would admit everything, make full detailed confessions of everything, & beg everyone's forgiveness, not put all the grieving loved ones and others through more.
Instead, they've just put more people through this, all the jurors & alternates & court personnel, the community, law enforcement & investigators, lawyers, journalists, family members, friends, people who helped search and who cared for the victims; there's just no end to the selfishness of Lori and Chad; no bottom to them.
To spin their greedy selfish evil as divine will is blasphemy, perjury, and fraud.
I wonder if JJ or Tylee even knew their Mom was happily heading off to Hawaii and leaving them behind after helping to set them up for and hand them off to be slaughtered.
I wonder if Lori will decide to turn on Chad to try to save herself?
What horrible depravity. These snakes were so blessed and destroyed all the most beautiful and precious gifts entrusted to them.
It's unconscionable.
@@NormanBatesNumbers excellent summation! Lori and Chads greed, lust and actions are so depraved it is almost beyond belief. The fact that these two were living in Hawaii on social security and life insurance benefit money from people they slaughtered is hard to process. The two kids buried in Chads backyard in the “pet” cemetery. Then look at those pictures of their “unholy marriage” on a beach in Hawaii. It’s sickening. No other words for it.
You are so right they are evil but they are not dancing anymore.
I love this witness! He gave it back so good to Lori’s goofball attorney.
total goofball that attorney😂😂😂
Yes, he mailed his response. I dislike that Defense Attorney 😕 take a good look at what you did to your son Lori.
He has nothing to defend his client with. At least, this way, Lori can't sulk about not being represented properly and appeal for a mistrial. In a way, this guy is making sure the court only goes through this "song and dance" once. Chad's lawyer is watching this closely, and no doubt advising his client to plead guilty to avoid the death penalty. If Chad fights this, he is a dead man.... probably end up a dead man in jail too. Oh well, no loss there.
@@missykim510I assume the state will not accept a plea and pursue the death penalty in any case
Wish he could bave told the goofball where "microplastics" are found and how you get them in your body - not in your nose inside a plastic bag, but thru some bodies of water, and theyre so micro you cant see them...
What are you breathing? Air... and then it runs out and you die... Duh!
And while these two babies were left to rot in the ground their ‘mother’ was giggling on a beach!
I hope she rots in hell and I hope her life sentence in prison is long and horrible just like her soul.
I’d like to see Lori and Chad get those autopsy photos as a Christmas card every year. Just as a reminder of the horrific things they did to those children.
The jail opens the mail, would they give them to them? I would hate for whoever opened the envelopes 😢
I don't think they would be so impressed. After all they were there when they killed them and chopped and packed them up. Psychopaths.
They don’t care
Maybe they could be sentenced to horrific biological cleanups. No mask. No gloves.
@@sambia7295 They may not care, but it says something that she won’t look at them and that they didn’t want them shown in court. Everyone said she used to be a living devoted mother, and I believe one day, it will affect her….maybe years down the road, after she has spent time away from Chad.
Major points to Dr. Warren for his exchange with the defence ❤
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The Defense has become nothing leas than a circus act! Every tax payer in that state should be outraged that their tax dollars are wasted on such a clown of an attorney !
He should never be paid by the state again !
I wonder how many he has been appointed to defend that have filed Ineffective counsel motions? Again costing tax payers !
I continue to be shocked at his unprofessional attitude his lack of preparedness and his low IQ grasping!
Yes, agree 💯 superb testimony - asphyxiation by plastic bag, which makes it impossible to breathe 😕 you Defense Attorney TWAT.
💙💜💜💙 RIP JJ, Tylee, Tammy, and Charles.
Wasn’t hard, defence attorney made a literal fool of himself
The defence using slang phrases at times such as "do your thing" this a professional man in a court of law! What an embarrassment.
They also tend to argumentative and rude toward the witnesses
When they said J.J. had his blanket there, my thoughts were, only Lori would have put it with him. Chad or Alex would not have thought of that.
Yes, it seems like the kind of thing the primary caregiver would do.
It makes me SO ANGRY that poor JJ was most likely awake and aware as they did those terrible things to him . One of my greatest phobias is not being able to breathe. I hope Tylee atleast wasnt aware. I know that doesnt really help anything as they are still gone, but to add terror and pain to knowing people you love are hurting you is just beyond the beyond
Not being able to breathe....is life and death situation
Phobias are fear of something that is unreasonable, nonlethal
@@malibudolphin3109 thank you, oh correction wizard 👍
I agree. Having children with disabilities I couldn’t imagine the thoughts that went through his little mind. I keep thinking the reason Tylee was dismembered other than the rituals but because she was heavier and couldn’t be lifted or placed in a bag. 😭😭😭😭🤬
I literally gasped when he spoke about the scratch marks. It makes me want to break out in tears 😢 just thinking of what these poor kids went through!
People you love hurt you all the time.
I have such tremendous respect for doctors who speak for the dead.
YES!
I am in awe of the doctors that perform these procedures to bring justice to the victims. Unbelievable skills ❤
I agree. I am very thankful that there are people who can do these difficult jobs, but I am definitely not one of them💔
I can't imagine seeing things like this every day in their job performance and going home to sleep at night. It takes such a strong person to do this job. I'd have to be in some serious therapy to do that job.
@@debidriscoll8108 me too!
Chad and Lori Daybell are absolutely heartless monsters. I keep remembering seeing them in Hawaii on tv when everyone was looking for these precious children. It’s hard to imagine how they just went on with their lives after murdering 4 people?
well, they were all "safe and happy" according to Lori. With God in heaven and released from old demons. 🤮🤬😡
They are both revolting beings.
I still believe she also conspired to have Tylee's dad murdered too, along with her lap dog brother. Who know how many others have suffered untimely deaths after crossing her.
@@Christina-71Maybe even her sister Stacy who died young too.
They weren’t in heaven playing with the cute angels. They were tortured, dead and buried in the cold, hard ground. Don’t you understand that all this was done in another, twisted religion citing some kind of god? No god. No heaven. No hell. Just criminal, nasty, heartless, selfish humans.
Oh god this is beyond awful the physical and emotional torture of the two children and all other family members is beyond horrific! I cannot imagine the pain and horror they have all suffered!
I feel even worse for Kay & Larry Woodcock who allowed Lori & Charles to adopt JJ. They believed they were giving him a home where he would have a full time stay at home Mom & excellent schools & resources for his special needs. They couldn't possibly have foreseen what would happen, but I'm sure they feel regret & anguish everyday over giving JJ up to them. This will go on until the day they die.
Chad had to have been the one who killed JJ. Remembering Mel’s account of the night Chad took JJ to “bed” and then came out with scratches on his neck. JJ was not seen after that.
Chad is facing murder charges for asphyxiating Tammy. JJ was asphyxiated to death. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if JJ died directly at his hands, rather than his uncle's, Alex Cox. Either way, the three monsters are demons. Horrible beings.
I think Alex could easily have new. Framed by taking his phone to the burial site etc.
@@miajackson3559 nope...he fully participated
@@mysticalmargaret6105 yup I'd say youre right about Chad doing it and Alex was roped into the burials..😒so disgusted by this as a man who wasn't blessed with having kids it's heartbreaking hearing this😔..
@Mia Jackson all of this is vial. These people are demon filled. So difficult for any of us to truly figure out who did what. But they all had a role. Even Melanie Gibbs. How in the world do you not realize something wrong and sick was going on when you see those scratches on Chad. And them talking about JJ climbing the fridge. They had to add that JJ knocked the picture of Christ. That had to be put in.....
I am also grateful that the autopsy photos were not released to the public. That is a good thing. Those are private and although I know the the jurors have to see them but not the general public.
They are juveniles, so there is more protection by the court to keep them sealed
So absolutely horrific! My heart goes out to the jurors , police detectives and pathologists. I could not be a juror in such a case I commend them !
I can't imagine them not needing serious therapy after this
@@debidriscoll8108Is therapy provided to jurors after horrific cases like this? It should be.
I checked on my kids before i watched this 17,15,13, and 8 after hearing this I had to go back and kiss their foreheads as they sleep. Im sure in the morning my teens will be like mom what the heck why did you come in kissing on me last night. A mom is supposed to love and protect her kids and lori did not. How she let anyone harm her babies I will never understand!
❤❤🙏🌏🇦🇺
There is no reasoning or making sense of evil. That's what the dastardly duo are. Pure evil.
I think she took part in it. A psychic who predicted how these kids died exactly down to a white bag on JJ’s head and black bag on his body and duct tape and described Tylee’s dismemberment in January (months before they were found) said Lori took part in putting the bag over JJ and she beat Tylee repeatedly in the head while Alex or Chad strangled her and beat her way beyond necessary to kill the poor girl. I’m inclined to believe it although I’ve always been told to stay away from this kind of thing. I was shocked to find out this psychic was correct! She said they dismembered Tylee in Chad’s workshop on his property. So sad!
Was thankful my grandkids came to visit so I could do the same with them! ❤ Lori is no Mom in my opinion! Being able to give birth doesn't make a Mom to me, just as depositing seeds doesn't make Dad! My teens never mentioned the midnight Mom prayer watches! Lol
What a fantastic Doctor, Dr Garth Warren. The fact the defence is going off movies is very scary..
It's almost like you care more about that sweet boy than his own mother did.
He might be a Better Call Saul type of lawyer lol
@@annohalloran6020 when he kept asking had he looked up the nose, the Dr had to explain how JJ would have died with a plastic bag over his head, the fact there was no air left!! I can't quite believe he would push that so hard. JJ didn't put that bag over his own head and bury himself 6 feet under. Is she saying she's not guilty and that Chad is or that neither are do you know?
Love how Warren puts Douglas in his place!!! "That's scary!" 😂😂
Dr. Garth Warren is highly qualified and educated. Has done numerous homicide autopsies. The defense attorney's questions were ludicrous!! He grilled him why he didn't check sinuses or throat for evidence of plastics. Doc said that's never done. And then the defense attorney stated "he was going off of movies he saw." Dr. Warren: "That's scary." Priceless!
Tylee and JJ died horrific, traumatizing deaths. JJ had evidence of a struggle so he was fighting for his life. We don't know what Tylee went through but I am sure it was just as bad. All at the hands of their Mother and new step dad, Chad. We do not know for sure if Alex was involved in its entirety. I say this due to Alex's last words stating Lori and Chad were going to make him the fall guy. Chad could have set Alex up by calling him over to his house/yard knowing his cell phone would locate him there. There's too many unanswered questions.
JJ was bound. That goes along with Chad and Lori's religious beliefs. Bound the evil spirit.
Tylee was burned. Same applies with religious beliefs: Burn evil spirits by fire. Which btw, Melanie Gibb had full knowledge of burning by fire. Just sayin'.
I hope both Chad and Lori receive "prison justice." What they did to these precious children is beyond any human comprehension. My heart goes out to the Woodstocks and all family and loved ones. This is heart wrenching!!
Poor kids, that’s the absolute worst way to die. Not being able to breathe..
Oh my goodness poor JJ, that was not a quick death. How horrifying. My heart is with these families learning this
I have a non verbal, autistic sweet boy and I cannot stop thinking about how unbelievably confused and scared he must’ve been 😢
It is so hard to get through this testimony with ads popping up every 6 minutes.
Tried listening with external speaker in tub. Not easy when ads keep interrupting!
You can pay and won't get ads
Not to mention insensitive!
I’d forgotten ads are a thing on YT. My $11 per month is so worth it.
This defense attorney is absolutely pathetic and obnoxious all at once….not a very good combination
Agree
@@snek7638 you’re absolutely right
Just wait until we have to listen to John Prior....
Well the defense attorney has to try something…-anything or else the guilty can claim ineffective counsel later. Don’t blame the attorney for doing their job even in a hopeless case where the guilt is so clear.
How could Anyone do this to Children… or anyone for that matter!
I hope Lori listened and Saw, this Evidence!
These are Your Children!
Prayers for the family of these Children 🙏🙏🙏
I think she should have been made to watch and look instead of turning her back, She's a fruit basket , she's worse than evil idk even why she gets a trial! I get it but she don't deserve it! As a parent myself? omg my kids are everything no matter what! hurt em and I'd rain hell fire on whoever hurt them!
I hope Lori and Chad rot in prison and suffer every day of what’s left of there miserable existence.
I'm still listening, almost done. Tylee was burned in the fire pit. I am baffled how none of the neighbors smelled burning flesh, bones and organs?! This has a distinct, putrid, awful smell. J.D. Salinger, who helped liberate concentration camps in World War II, told his daughter, “You never really get the smell of burning flesh out of your nose entirely. No matter how long you live.”
I always wondered exactly the same thing. That smell would be beyond awful!!
I think it was why they did an internet search of winds and what direction they were blowing they prob wanted them to be away from the neighbors
I don't think their neighbors were that close by and they had researched which way the wind was blowing. Thank you for the Kudos to JD Salinger
Condolences 🙏 to all family members who loved these children and have been damaged by this horrific situation...RIP JJ, Tylee, Charles and I suspect Joe Ryan...may justice be served...❤
Don't forget Tammy.
I'm also wondering if Lori had anything to do with the mysterious death of her sister back in 98... She might have wanted the sister out of the way so that she could have full access to her niece.
I am so sorry for JJ, Tyler and Charles that have to die in such a horrible way. My condolences to their love ones.
And also Chad’s wife Tammy
Defense has nothing to loose. By the way he is a bit wacko that lawyer and unpleasant voice. The jury already made their mind up. Even if she was, which I don't believe, under the influence of Daybell what mother let this happen knowingly. Exit with Lori.
He just described the manner/cause of death of my daughter with a gun shot wound to her head. It looked as though either of them could have shot her. It was undetermined.
It was like he was describing her. God help everyone trying to cope with and understand the loss of these 2 precious children. 😢 I've lost two and I just cannot imagine living with it being at my own hands. I just can't understand. 😢😢😢
Sending my thoughts to you. So sorry for your huge losses.
As a mom of a sweet little boy with Autism… I cannot imagine! This breaks my heart so much. He was already in a world that was so much harder for him to navigate and the people who are supposed to love and protect him didn’t! He was loved and WANTED by his grandparents! I truly believe she murdered him for the SS money and in retaliation for Kay getting the life insurance money. Sweet JJ RIP 😭
This is truly horrible.
My heart goes out to all the people, friends and family that have to go through this horrendous time. May your hearts and minds be healed and come to peace in time. 😢
😅
The sketch artist has really come into her own. She has captured the emotions (or lack of) in the courtroom. I appreciate her work. I would love her to capture the audience especially you, Nate.
Anybody want to put a plastic bag over the defense attorney's head, to demonstrate to him how you die from asphysiation......?????
🤣 I’m sure he’d try to tell everyone how it doesn’t happen like that in the movies! Or ask for a stunt double.
Seriously though, he is a piece of work. Talking to the witness like he has no idea what he’s doing. Never mind his years of education and real world experience.
Me me me
Don't forget to duct tape his mouth. Maybe we should just do the duct tape for court anyway. 😂
The Loser's attorney doesn't want those autopsy photos to be shown to ANYONE! What is he so afraid of? The disgusting truth of what really happened to those two children? Why in the hell does he think they are in court? He has annoyed me throughout this trial. Both of them.
I agree. I know it's their job to give her a vigorous defense, but they don't have to be dicks while doing it. Not only that but how redundant some of their questions are, it's like the prosecutor already asked that, ask something different! Like when the prosecutor asked the forensic pathologist about his education and then the defense attorney turns around and asks the exact same questions. If I was on the jury I would be annoyed with that. And just their tone of voice sometimes, they can ask questions without being so condescending. It's no wonder they lost.
this defense attorney is a piece of work, really he says bag was duct taped after jj wad murdered!!!@
To think there are people walking among us that are capable of something this heinous is frightening.
For the defense to claim that he knows more from watching movies than an actual forensics pathologist is laughable but, really condescending.
wow, that picture of JJ drinking coke, on the couch, truly could of been his last day here 😢
My God, how can a Mother sit there and listen to this horror about her child. It’s beyond sick. There’s a special place in hell for Lori, Chad and Alex
She's not a mother
Hell does not want them there either……
No. There’s special place in jail for her. Do stop being superstitious. It’s 2023 …
Lori, does not want to look at the photos, but she needs them engraved into her head, it is engraved in our minds the cruel and appalling things that were done to these poor innocent children & their spouses! I am still floored s to no one bringing up that chad was a grave digger and worked for a cemetery!!
what in the world was the defense counsel thinking when objecting to the autopsy photographs???
There is no defense, only an attorney making a fool of himself
Going off things I've seen in movies is possibly the dumbest thing an attorney can say....credibility gone to shit there.
Wow her lawyer is acting like the doctor doesn't know what he's talking about and LV didn't do anything wrong. He's being such a smart@$$ 😠😠😠
Acting like a doctor!?
He's quoting movies !
One had hoped the kids was not aware what was happening,but it doesn’t sound like it 😪
Sounds horrific dosent it
I didn’t even know these 2 babies but this as a mother breaks me 😢 trying so hard to not cry after every detail I’m so sorry to the family 😢
I don't know how you could have lunch after this pathologist testified .After hearing and seeing this, I would need a pack of cigarettes and a couple of shots of wiskey..Horrible to hear, let alone see his pictures. I would definitely expect sleeplessness and nightmares .
Shoutout for East Idaho News. Seriously we the other people are so grateful to have the opportunity to be a part of the internet gallery. ❤❤❤
‘Tylee’s remains came in three bags …”
Chad Daybell must have really hated Tylee to do what he did to her. Such disrespect and humiliation to her.
My heart breaks for Tylee she appeared in those pictures to love JJ more than anything especially showing more love than the wicked Lori. May Lori and Chad rot in hell for eternity.
good that LVallow is to listen to THAT too 😱
Would love to see Lori take the stand like Alex Murdaugh, si rhe jury can hear her lunacy for themselves.
Should take lori down the the morgue and have her sit in a room with her children
Maybe have her last memory of them be just as impactful as it is to everyone having to see and hear about it that loved those babies
Thanks, Nate!
I think it will be interesting to see if Chad tries to negotiate the DP off the table in exchange for the truth of what really happened?..Since Lori's defense is it was the men, I would like to see how Chad plays his hand moving forward.
It wouldn't make a bit of difference in Lori's trial unless he does this before closing arguments.
Very true. I feel like his lawyers were there to see how her trial is going to feel it out since we should be getting a date hopefully by next week. I feel like that would be his only option. It may be hard to "prove" Lori's involvement (conspiracy), but you cannot deny Chad's and Alex's. Now unless he and Lori believe he will be a martyr and this is the plan is another story.
Let's hope someone tells the truth!
Unfortunately Chad the "lizard demon" idt he has it in him...😮
A defense lawyer agreeing to disagree with a fully trained and experienced forensic pathologist 😂😂😂
My God, its gruesome 😪
This is the most gruesome horrible case I have ever heard. Poor babies 😥😥😥 I wonder what the monster Lori is thinking while this man is talking!!!!! HORRIBLE
She is saying to herself “you don’t understand.’
She is completely detached and delusional!
The few tears she supposedly shed, were an act imo... either that or she wiped a few tears away for herself!!
I believe these pictures made her realize she's going down
Is it only me, who thinks the defense Att. Is a pain in the butt? They anbringen me so bad
Mr Thomas from the defens makes me want to scream. He sounds like he's drunk or recently woken up. He's slurring.....very hard to listen to.
Why was her body burned but not his? That seems like Chad was trying to hide something
The images SHOULD BE SHOWN IN ALL THE HORROR THAT CHILD
SUFFERED so that the jury will be able to TRULY FEEL
RIGHTEOUS ANGER
Imo, the defense trying to wiggle out of the autopsy photos being shown is laughable!!!
To top it off Lori has the audacity to ask if she can leave the courtroom?
Are you kidding me? I mean, she does realize why she's in that chair right? She conspired to kill them! And even if she was absent from the scene where they were shamelessly murdered SHE knew dam well what was happening!😮😢 there are no words for what kind of person she is! If she call even be referred to as a human being
I don't know if anybody else has noticed through this trial, but it seems like that alarm goes off when there's details spoken about the kids and specifically and more so Tylee. 😮
I hope Lori has to listen to every detail of the murder of her children and the condition her childrens remains were in when they were finally found.
The jurors can't get a full understanding with black and white photos
Pathologist states scratches found on neck were a red flag, J.J. might have been trying to get the bag off his head 😭😭💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔
That was the case. There was a struggle, meaning that sweet little J.J. tried to free himself but he suffocated in the process 😢
might be a stretch but i just started rewatching how to get away with murder and i’m overwhelmed with the creepy feeling that those idiots replicated sam keating’s death with poor tylee. episode 1:9 shows sam being bludgeoned, burned, dismembered and then put into black bags. idk why but after what we’ve heard abt alex, chad and lori; i can see them believing the show and it’s title could help them complete their mission. it’s really a tragedy to see a mom who can take part in such evil in the supposed name of god. may the lord bless and allow rest to tylee’s beautiful soul and for jj as well poor babies🥺
Maybe the defense attorney was looking for a way to try and blame Co-Vid as the cause of death of JJ? Guess they have to grasp at straws… there’s absolutely no defense for these horrific actions!
The defense attorney seems a little dense. And he's rude to the pathologist. He is trying and failing to discredit the doctor, but he managed to discredit his own self. Rude and dense is not a good combination.
I think they gave him NyQuil (which has alcohol as an ingredient) to knock him out. I believe Lori carried him over to Alex’s apartment where they killed him together. One put duck tape on his mouth and then held his arms down while the other put the bag over his head and duck taped it around his head.
I don't understand why would it be inappropriate to view the photographs on the big monitor? It's the REALITY of what those two CHILDREN have been through, what SOMEBODY did to them!!!!!!!!!
36:10- 36:25
“Chads trying so hard to get in.” 😂😂😂
You wouldn’t consider doing this to a dog! Bound hand and foot with duct tape and over his mouth. Evil monster.
So What Dr Warren is telling us all, that the Children Where Drugged, What Discusting Coward Would do Such a thing?Only Evil Monster Work in Such Heinous Ways!!!!RIP 2 BEAUTIFUL ANGELS JJ👼⚘🙏🕊➕& TYLEE👼⚘🙏🕊➕
The defense doesn't want the jury to see what Lori and Chad did
Gosh this man is ultra intelligent
Lori should be made to watch this and tortured until she admits her exact part. And I hate to say that because I’m a Christian woman 😩 But for the love of those children, who could EVER ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN?!?!! And in the name of Jesus??? Blasphemy! I just can’t comprehend this 😭😭
Not surprised a Christian recommends torture … religious people can be the most horrible, righteous people around. They do all kinds of horrible things but say it’s ok. god made them do it. You and Lori and chad have much in common. Poor deluded you.
What was that narcissistic monster of a mother doing during this testimony? Omg!
How many more concessions is this Judge going to give to the Defense? Looks like they are running the show for Lori. Sidebars etc audio visuals etc. I wish this circus was over and done with and Lori either euthanised or locked up until she no longer breathes the same air as the rest of us. As this goes on it becomes more difficult to contemplate the suffering of Tylee and JJ. May she suffer from lack of air like JJ. In prison she will be viewed as a child killer and suffer the consequences of prison justice.
No. Making sure they can't appeal
She will be I protective custody P.C & Most likely have 0 prison justice!
Murderers, chomos, & rapists!
Ya know with her kind! Pathetic monsters
Air, …air is what you need to avoid asphyxiation
The pathologist response was great...
Pure gold
I forced myself to hear all of this. i did it as if I too, were a juror. i also did it, trying to keep an open mind. This is just beyond gruesome. my heart is sick with grief for these 2 innocent children. There was just NO need for these murders ! There is NO justification. The Woodcocks stated many times they were willing to take these children off of Lori's hands. So, why murder ? It has to be out of sheer ------without mitigation ----- greed & rage. The only remedy we have is DEATH. if anyone meets this remedy it is, for certain, Lori Vallow .She was their Mother ------she HAD to be fully aware of the deaths of her 2 children. She bears full legal, & without doubt, moral responsibility for these unspeakable deaths. --------MJL, 76 y/o
I totally hear you on this-
Money is the only real reasons for Chad Daybell to be able to complete his cult mission & she was with him hook line & sinker.
I was waiting for the defence to ask: are you sure it was a white plastic bag? How do you know the bag used to be pink and turned white? Are you sure JJ is dead? Desperate, seriously inane questions. And then quoting a movie he saw as the expertise this experienced pathologist should have used instead of his knowledge. Insane.
I heard this before about the cross... so let's me get this straight... the defense has more knowledge based on Hollywood hmm to quote Trump YOUR FIRED!!
What would the defence object to colour photographs? That’s how those poor children were murdered … in full colour. Is he trying to somehow minimize the horror? He can’t fool anyone. In black or white or colour, the murders were real.
With all the whispers that these sensitive mics pick up, at approx 36:20 does anyone hear the phrase "Chad's trying so hard to get in," like I heard with earbuds? Of course I don't know who is saying it and I could be wrong on exactly what is being said, but it happened right after the microphones stopped some really bad, eerie feedback. I thought someone may have been sarcastically saying it since Chad believes in "portals" and teleporting his being from place to place... Lol. 🙄😉
Good day all, hold your loved ones tight! ❤️
I was hearing something like this too and there was a sort of snigger following. Don't know what it means though
I heard it too. And then I heard another voice say "yeah" and then snicker.
I thought so too! Of course I could be wrong on the actual saying, but it sure does sound like that is what was said. Y'all have a good night!
@@sweethomealamanda Thank you. I hope you have a good evening too.😊
So unprofessional. I am surprised they weren’t called out for it!
RIP JJ AND TYLEE
HOPE TO MEET U ONE DAY
WHEN JESUS COMES BACK
😭🙏🕊️
Jesus doesn’t exist as how could he let this evil happen?!
Tammy was an unattended death…why no autopsy?
Family said they didn't want one.
Chad said no autopsy. Wonder what they found when it was finally done.
@@lynnegackstetter2779 asphyxiation
@@nonmihiseddeo4181I cant believe that's even an option.. especially in sudden deaths...terrifying that it came so close to never being determined what really happened to her..😣 hopefully justice will come soon..
Especially given how many people to whom Chad "prophesized" her death, how she had been suspiciously shot at from someone in a vehicle (she thought it was a paint ball gun?), her life insurance, and Chad's affair with Lori and all the "dark" ratings Chad was characterizing her as.
Charles tried to warn her and reach out to her, but underestimated Lori's sociopathy and warned/threatened Lori that Charles would be contacting Tammy, so Chad and/or Lori likely were able to prebunk or intercept and delete some or all of the messages and contact efforts by Charles once he figured out Lori was sending fake emails to Tammy pretending to be Charles and others providing invitations of work and employment so that Chad & Lori could hook up without Tammy realizing what Chad was up to ...
Tooooooo many commercials omg every minute there'd a commercial. Makes it unwatchable ffs
I can't stand Thomas. He asks stupid questions that don't help the def at all..why bother?..he's condescending and rude!..
The public SHOULD be able to view those photographs and the juriors SHOULD BE ABLE to see these photos in large format to view the incredible horrific death J J endured by that MONSTER....
I realize the defence is there to save the defendant so there job is to point things out, that maybe give her an out, an excuse etc etc
But I really hate how he puts people down ,question their abilities and make sarcastic remarks! You can do the same thing without being a jerk! I’m hoping it works against the defence in the jurors minds. And I hope it’s not going to cast any doubt on Lori because I they let her go, or give her a minimal sentence, I think I give up believing in the USA ! He’s is questioning this coroners ability, and talks about methods that he “ got from the movies”! Yet no one is objecting ! How do you disagree on something that’s not even factual ? Yet no objections from the other side? Maybe they are so sure they got this in the bag,but we have seen others go free, while everyone knew they were guilty 🤷♀️ I just think they need to be more aggressive !
Does anyone know if lories mom and dad are in the court room
I don't think so. they never showed up in court.
No.
Not surprising that they’re not present
After indulging Lori with her Narcissism and allowing her devious and pathological behavior to go unchecked for years they’re unable to acknowledge or accept the reality of all the devastation and destruction of the aftermath ……
@@hectorstrachan - Stop that, Hector!
Imagine instead that they could be in a state of deep shock & also be grieving for the incredible devastation of innocent lives? No one saw this coming. (except Charles)
Impossible to imagine that one’s own grandchildren would be slaughtered so cruelly by their mother.
Hector, May I gently suggest that blaming Lori’s parents without personally knowing them is an added cruelty to an already unbearable tragedy, one that many will never recover from? I, too, am outraged and furious. But please place the blame upon the murderers, not anyone else including grandparents.
May God have mercy upon the grief stricken family members.
May the victims Rest In Peace.
They probably thought leaving Lori's sister Stacy to be starved to death, (injected with insulin but given no food) by Alex while the whole family partied in Hawaii, was a fine idea because after all, she was going to leave them to be with her husband and daughter....but what a terrible example to set.
Murdering your kid and going to Hawaii to party is simply a family tradition at this point.
Because of the apparent drugs used speaks to how premeditated JJs death was. I am sure Alex had used the date rape drug before.Lori would have planned this out asking Alex to supply her with this drug. I also think he gave it to tylee as I assume she was also raped by Alex.
He did make frequent trips to Mexico for pharmaceuticals. I believe they are sold over the counter there.
Please explain the trauma to tylee pelvic area
The definition an attended death is also laughable. Doctors are really near a person when the die in a hospital unless they have coded out and a team has tried to recover them. Most in hospital deaths are either alone, with a friend or family member or at times a nurse of some sort including aides.
It’s not just that. My mother died of ALS. She was under the care of her primary care Dr as well as a palliative care team at home. They provided documentation so that when she passed away, at home, we wouldn’t have to endure police/autopsy etc. stating that her death was expected...
Defense trying to blame death on microplastics on the bag, which was duct taped over his head as cause of death... What an idiot!
What's with people laughing in court room...disgusting...
The audios are killing me we need better quality audio for these videos
Did he have his medicine in his body ?
I'd like to see Lori and Chad get the same horrific things done to them. Same with Laticia Stauch, Chris Watts and all the other monsters out there.
Gresume details. Hope the jury convicts. And are not too traumatized by the testimony of Dr.