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Conlang Critic: Viossa
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2024
- in this special episode of Conlang Critic, I speak to several members of the Viossa community about their language, a collaborative conpidgin.
official Viossa Discord server: / discord
Vikoli (Viossa wiki): vikoli.org/
Davi hanu! (Viossa podcast): open.spotify.c...
reddit post announcing the end of the initial experiment: / viossa_an_experimental...
Ka Du Hanasu?-Collaborative Conpidgins: • Eighth Language Creati...
Viossa Q&A special episode: • Viossa Q&A - Special (...
Pancake's Viossa sample: vocaroo.com/kA...
Stibitzki's Viossa sample: / a_viossa_poem
/ hbmmaster
conlangcritic.b...
seximal.net
/ hbmmaster
/ janmisali
0:00 - intro
4:39 - PHONOLOGY
12:30 - ORTHOGRAPHY
14:38 - VOCABULARY
19:27 - GRAMMAR
23:54 - SPOKEN SAMPLE
27:25 - RATING VIOSSA
The real conlang was the friends we made along the way
I came here thinking this video was going to be about a programming language called Conlang and this comment remedied my disappointment
Enough to make a grown man cry *Sniffles*
Adorable
Lol, literately, since viossa is a pidgin
Literally lol
Imagine being on a discord call with your friends and one day just going "hey, let's all start speaking different languages and see what happens". This is just about the nerdiest thing I've ever seen and I love it so much.
Omg, me too
Amazing
"This is just about the nerdiest thing I've ever seen"
Would be nerdier, if everyone joining the chat would need to pick an unknown language problably few will know and try to spend X days trying to learning it (and then stop trying to do it FOREVER), they will have just enought info to start the thing.
Some tried to start one just with pictures, but there is the problems that the pictures may be "explaining too much"
when i first heard of it as a con-pidgin i thought it was even more nerdy and was a pidgin between conlangs... that would be so cool
Hmmm
"rock in mouth" is one of the most creative ways to explain a tooth without knowing the word tbh
agreed. sounds like something i'd say in toki pona
@@sictoabu9611 hahaha lmao u r righr
@@sictoabu9611 I literally do say that in toki pona... "kiwen uta" and I've never heard anyone use anything else lol
Chewing bone
@@tomsilver "oral rock" makes sense.
Viossa’s logo is just the Twitter logo from a different angle
Lol
It's probably because it was created in Skype
I don’t see it
It’s a pigeon (get it?) flying in front of the sun (compare conlangs flag), with blue/white colors (viossa started on skype)
Lemon Gang Twitter’s logo is a bird seen from the side. Viossa’s is a bird from the front/back
I think they should make a “snapshot,” a recording of a specific text widely known in another language, transferred into Viossa every half year or so, possibly the same text every time, possibly a different one It would serve as a scientific record that could genuinely used by some linguistics student somewhere for a thesis. Plus, it’d give you something to marvel at in accomplishment.
That would be so cool!
The Sun and the Wind
probably either The Sun and the Wind or the Tower of Babel narrative would be good to use since they're so widely translated as samples of conlangs.
You win the comment section.
Since everyone has their own dialect, since everyone will teach you different things, this wouldn't really be possible.
its just like conlangers that, when they get to speak in their conlang, they speak ABOUT language XD
yes because the vast majority of people that make these insignificant conlangs don't actually put in the work to learn their own creation
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*i feel called out*
@@spegnagmaglorious3590 I'm included in that demographic, as well. For all the conlangs I've attempted and completed--some I feel great about, others not so much--I've never actually applied myself and tried to learn any of them. If the creator of a language can't even bother learning it, that ought to be pretty telling of its usefulness and purpose... unless I suppose it's use is to be useless.
@@jeremias-serus conlangs created for stories can be a mess to learn because they’re realistic and there can be a bunch of them…
Viossa: everything is allowed. except "is". screw "is".
Stuart be like......
All my homies hate "is"
ye exist je exista
ie exists
*laughs in Russian*
Sounds perfect for Bill Clinton.
I just want to say that I absolutely love that the word for "soft" is fuwafuwa
that's the softest word I have ever thought
Japanese onomatopoeia is very fun, I would totally integrate mochimochi too!
You should learn Japanese then ;0
I like “auauauau” for “so on and so on”
i love reduplication
Maybe it's because I'm still bad at understanding the nuts and bolts of conlangs, but I think this is my favorite conlang critic episode. Everyone jan Misali interviewed seemed super fun and the spoken sample was hilarious and whenever jan suddenly giggles it rejuvenates my spirit. It was just such a unique episode
Just so you know, 'jan' isn't part of his name, it just means person in toki pona, and it's there cuz names in toki pona are adjectives that must be applied to the noun they are naming, which in this case is a person.
@@spinnis ona li jan Misali e nimi kepeken "Jan" la, mi pali e kalama pona a! ni li toki.
@@spinnis yes, but even in English, it is still common to refer to them as "jan Misali".
@@Sean-of9rs (OP referred to jan Misali as just "jan" later on.)
@@parnikkapore True; past me was not clear on the wording of this comment.
Viossa is such an interesting concept to me. it's just super special and unique. It feels like a snapshot of how a language would naturally form-accidentally and by chance. Just throwing things together and what sticks, sticks; and what doesn't, doesn't.
It's the kind of thing that would be difficult to actually learn traditionally, but this 'experiment' helps people visualize the process.
It's just so fascinating, I love it. This is linguistic nerds just hanging out and being linguistic nerds.
I really do hope they keep at this, I think it's great!
Obviously it's far from a perfect experiment - as they mentioned, they all study linguistics and have a further level of self-awareness in what they are doing. But it is still fascinating. I'd love to contribute, though my only languages I have any form of confidence in are English and French, which are already covered.
In a way it's a bit comparable to the genesis of Nicaraguan Sign Language.
@@godminnette2 you can always bring more french stuff and participate! some of us have wiktionary or another dictionary handy in case there’s a new word that we need :p
Yeah, it’s such a cool idea, but I wish it were done with people who didn’t speak a common language and had less linguistic awareness. Admittedly, that would be INCREDIBLY difficult, but it would still be cool and even more accurate if it were even possible
@@lonewolf711_ that's something I'm actually planning to do in the future. Now you know after those 2 years xd
Viossa couldve easily been ised as an April Fools video if he didnt go to the trouble of getting interviews and just said “its anything! Phonology? Anything! Granmar? Anything!” On the other hand, this is such an organic living thing without being traditionally developed and I love this idea. What better way to make a real looking language!
holy cow it's a pidgin
it's a peer-pressure-fueled group pidgin, stressful but fun
the pidgin is so vast in phonology so it sounds like an emulsion of vocabulary and pronunciation, a bit of a patchworky quilt for everyone to work on
this was really fun and unique as a concept
I love hearing the pleasant surprise in jan Misali's chuckles.
yeah ikr!
oh hi sicto
lon a a. ante la toki a, jan Sitopa o!
@@mamusipipalisajelo5419 toki, palisa jelo Natan o
Galvin Escalona toki a! ma pona pi toki pona la nimi sina li seme?
"I'll be reviewing English."
You'll be what?
*About time* someone puts that crap conlang on blast.
Iqlic, Jack Eisenmann’s English
XD
didn't he already talk about that one before?
@@oledakaajel he briefly mentioned it in the zese (?) episode
also i wouldve pronounced it another way (/ikgliç/ for example) but i guess saying english the same adds humour to it lol
@@gmestanley2214 there aren't enough symbols in the IPA for me to accurately write down the English word English. After all, there's only about 20 vowels in the IPA. And they don't distinguish between roundedness or not, or the type of roundedness or any other characteristics that vowels contain such as creak...
This is legitimately the coolest conlang I’ve ever seen.
I'm so jealous to not be a part of it
@@joshuascott7641 You could change that... /r/Viossa
@@joshuascott7641 you can head to their Discord
akkurat
At some point in the video, I fell out of my seat and screamed "THEY'RE TALKING LIKE THE SIMS"
I would listen to the 5 hour interview.
I also support the idea of a jan Misali podcast.
I'd listen to the whole version too.
UPLOAD THIS SHIT
jan 👏 misali 👏 podcast 👏
Misali please get on this
So I've been doing research on the Saami languages (dialects?) for the last few months, and I just wanna say that I hella appreciate Pauli giving North Saami the recognition it deserves by contributing some of its vocabulary to this fascinating project. This has been one of my favorite Conlang Critic episodes so far (gotta give props to Poliespo tho), and I really hope you keep up this fabulous work sinjoro Misali!
they’re considered their own languages, and not dialects of each other ;) tho there’s a intelligibility continuum
@@lahagemo I wouldn't say it's as cut and dry as that. Languages from opposite ends of the spectrum are mutually unintelligible, and definitely would be considered different languages, but the lines get a lot fuzzier when you look at neighboring communities. Adjacent Sámi languages/dialects are typically about as distant from one another as different dialects of English (maybe slightly more), so the speakers can understand each other fairly easily. On top of that, Sámi speakers rarely make a distinction between different dialects (referring to all simply as Sábme), so that sounds a lot more like dialectal variation to me. The fact of the matter is that the boundary between dialect and language is not well defined, and both terms can apply within a continuum like this depending on which speakers you're comparing.
Sorry for the essay of a response, but I mostly meant to be cheeky about the ambiguity of the situation in my original comment, and I don't want to leave the impression that there is one correct answer.
Peter Schmidt Definitely different languages
I was involved in the Skype group around four years ago and fell off from it because of some drama (I can’t remember what it was about but I think it had to do with some infighting between long-standing members and activity dropping off from the Skype chart that I was in) and the fact that I was getting ready to go to university. It was so special for me to see this episode finally come out. Viossa is still one of the coolest and most fascinating projects I’ve ever come across.
was there any familiarity of it to you?
James H Only the most mild familiarity. Things like the pronouns, akkurat or akk meaning yes, and the most recognizable being fshto. I was only actively involved for around a month or two. But I remember being very fascinated by the project, it being something of a meme on /r/conlangs, and being lightly chided in good faith for using things like emojis and pictures. It was a fun experience though, the challenge of trying to understand or describe what a word meant using only the words you knew already was an exhilarating experience.
They talked about how Norwegian was one of the languages they got their words from. Being Norwegian I find it fascinating to see how many Norwegian words made it into the core vocabulary. *Especially* how the meaning has slightly drifted from their original meaning in Norwegian. E.g. «akkurat» which translates to «exactly», but seems to have drifted somewhat to become general agreement or the word «yes». And «mange» which means «many» has seemingly become a general word for a large quantity so also has the meaning «a lot» and «very». These makes sense to me, but would probably be difficult for me to do naturally as I'm already very familiar with these words. Very interesting. Thanks for the insight into Viossa.
Blackmesh I’m learning norwegian and I found so many similarities as well, fsto representing understanding was another one of them.
"Mange bra" sounded so goofy, it was quite amusing
As far as I can see, "akkurat" can be used as the response "exactly". So "'hammas' means tooth?" "exactly/akkurat". But I'm no Norwegian speaker.
When English speakers comes across English pidgins and creoles we experience a similar thing. "Fellow" has become "-pela" in a lot of them. "Belonging to" has been shortened to "bilong", meaning "of". But if you want to communicate with the people that speak it, you have to speak it! It helps to think of it not as a 'broken' form of your language, but one that's borrowed the form of a word and then changed its meaning. Come to that I have never had to talk in German about mobile phones but if I did I'd have to use "Handy", if they're still using that term. I'd really have to say "cellphone" or "cell" in the States.
@@MatthewMcVeagh Really? Most people in the US just call them phones where I'm from. You gotta specify if it's landline now.
Oh that's why it took so long to make. Glad to see this, it's really cool!
Yeah, Good Job!
I love the backstory behind the word “deza” they mentioned
They unintentionally took a grammatical feature that made things a mess, and it evolved to mean “a mess”. That was incredible to me
"Auauau" is such a cute phrase! Very wonderful :)
I actually really liked the conversational sample. It feels a lot more realistic and natural than a reading of something written. It's definitely a harder thing to put in the video, but if you have the opportunity for future conlangs, I'd love to see it
I saw in another comment it's from Japanese and means "and so on"?
@@Styrbjiorn Auauau
I've never been spoiler warned on a language before
This is, by definition, the best conlang critic episode because it contained the longest phonology section. You may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like.
*peak.
@@thewanderingmistnull2451 Shit my bad
I love "imadag", it sounds so perfectly Japanoswedish.
I'm guessing that means "Today"
@@angelodc1652 Spot on
"ishilik ting" for "rock-like thing", too. absolutely underbart
今（いま）日（dag）
from the root "dag" which means day
This feels like the language equivalent of abstract art or freestyle dance.
"and then ther is "zh" which I don't uzhually use..."
zhtranzhe
rzhlanrlwey
Next step: gather even more languages and start over with Viossa as a donor
Update: they did that with other conlangs. It’s called wodox, and viossa is a contribution language along with things like dusolulu
@@jerryq1837 i tried looking up "wodox" and cant find anything, is it spelled differently?
24:21 hanasutropos. From hanasu which means speak in Japanese and tropos which means way/manner in Greek. Way of speech ie pronunciation. I love this language already.
Me and my (online) friends did something very similar to this, a "conlang" that we dubbed 'Monke'. None of us new a thing about linguistics or had any experience with conlangs, and most of us only spoke English. We created a discord text channel and explicitly banned any pre-existing natlangs or conlangs, with the aim to create a language that we can communicate in, nothing more. Most of how we defined words was by putting an emoji and then the suggested word. It went for just over a month, mostly developed by 3 people (Monke developed incredibly quickly, and was hard to keep on top of) before we got bored of it and archived the channel. At the end of this month, we had 72 words, if you ignore plurals, and we had present and future tenses, and had a grammar system that was basically just simplified English.
I'd highly recommend doing this if you have a group of people willing to do it, it is 100% worth it.
As someone who's been studying Japanese for about three years, I can definitely see the amount of Japanese that has been put into the vocabulary, but also it's really cool how they can just add a loan word from Spanish to a Japanese loan word and then abbreviate the combination to make a whole new word! This is linguistic freedom at its finest!
Also, this makes me want to study other languages that aren't Japanese so that I can feel confident enough to one day add them to an experimental pidgin language. -(I'm thinking maybe Hawaiian, or Navajo. And ooh, what if I spoke everything with my mouth closed?)-
I've been trying to teach myself Norwegian for the past 10 months and its influence is also very obvious.
The spoken conversation sample was beautiful. I don't think I've heard a language I like the sound of more than Salp's Viossa.
They are gonna get a LOT of discord messages now
that is, if we can find the link ;-;
@@andreluiz6023 their discord names are on screen when they speak
true
THIS
What's the server
what a wonderful, wholesome episode of conlang critic
The amount of Norwegian in this meant I recognized a lot of it in the sample conversation.
"Nei mange bra" registers in my head literally as "no many good", which is a fascinating construction.
nice photo
Me now: I should join this community, it would be a lot of fun.
Me from ten years ago: remember how lost you felt at Chinese immersion camp? now imagine that without any possibility of reference material
Me now: dammit
Oh man, I love everything about this. Especially love that I can almost understand it because of the Norwegian influence.
Honestly the amount of Norwegian was a little too much for me, I don't speak it very well but I still recognized so many words from the sample that it sounded much less exotic and diverse than I expected :/
It surprised me how much Norwegian there was in this 😍
Knowing Norwegian and Japanese, I almost didn't need the translation for the conversation example.
@@HAL-oj4jb agree. expected something diverse or exotic. i barely know Swedish (as I'm from Finland) but half of it was understandable. pretty boring and disappointing, sorry to say
@@iivarimokelainen I don't know what all yous were expecting lol. Pidgins/Creoles usually get most of their vocabulary from only 1 or 2 "prestige" languages. This is pretty naturalistic
@Altantis, Viossa's logo is a pigeon... with a skype blue background since it started on skype :)
Bruh you nonironically used the old styled way to respond to a comment before they allowed us to comment on comments. You must be a Veteran
@@diegodankquixote-wry3242 does it still work?
@@Hi_Brien heck no. OwO2600's comment will never arrive upon Altantis' notifications. Altantis would have no idea that OwO2600 responded to this comment. He would have to stumble upon it.
@@diegodankquixote-wry3242 thought so, sad days
@@diegodankquixote-wry3242 I found Atlantis's comment
I would just like to say that the edit was amazing and very well put together. I honestly thought that it was a group call until he pointed it out that it was recorded as separate interviews
This reminds me of a trip where my father, who only speaks english and poorly remembered spanish and italian, was working with a man who only speaks portuguese, and they more or less created a Romance-language pidgin on the fly
I wanna see a viossa 2,0 in which everyone that started it speaks only his natural language, and has ppl as diverse as possible.
I could see a bunch of universities or high schools pairing up from around the world that are distinctly without too many common language speakers, with a bunch of students essentially being online group pen pals without common language coming up with their own version of the experiment.
Any other non-English native speakers who want to take part in such a thing?
This would stil not work because you could speak a language that is someone else natural language as second language, so you would understand what he says. If you have someone that speak the same natural language as you as first language, its even worse as you would be able to understant what he says and talk with him.
Viossa 2.0 would require people that only speak one language only and this language is a language no one else at the viossa group speaks, that would be hard to do because who the hell that cares about linguistics and such kind of stuff dont speak english.
You could create a group where people can speak more than one language, but if a person A speak language X and Y, no one else would be able to speak either X or Y. This would at some times make things harder and other times easier. Because if you allow someone that knows language X and Y, you are blocking someone that knows language Y (but not know X) to join later.
@@exedeath doesn't basically forbidding English (or any one specific language y) count as a solution- as in to know language y and the language you'd contribute
@@hungjury7482 kinda yea
26:27 "You dont have to be sad, if life-red goes everywhere"
"Life-red" means "Blood", right?
Describing a numbing solution?
I think they're referring to the gums starting to bleed.
HOW DARE YOU SPOIL IT!!!!!!!
I'm so glad I got this too
I assume so
I loved hearing the spoken sample! It’s so cool to see them slowly shaping the language as they talked and using similar words to describe what they were trying to say.
Conlang with the concept of spoilers? Viossa is indeed something different.
Viossa, and arguably just this video, had sparked a whole new subset in conlangs - there are now countless conpidgins now (one of which I'm part of) and it's such a fun way to communicate with people internationally
Edit: two now lol
Am I the only one noticing the ending to each video is getting more and more complicated, epic, and beautiful every darn video?
Also 100% this is the most epic conlang I've seen featured on this channel thus far. Excellent video. :)
You should do an episode on Tsolyáni . Its an artlang created by M. A. R. Barker for his world of Tekumel.
Its a very interesting medieval fantasy world, based on things like mayan and egyptian culture and mithology, instead of western european mithology like Tolkien.
Theres is a lot of material about it and its not talked about a lot
Meso- and South-American (mainly Aztec) and South-East Asian mostly actually. I don't think there is much Egyptian in there. Also, while the form religious practices and iconology take are inspired by those cultures, the mythology is one of the few elements of Tekumel culture that is explicitly not.
@@Painocus you're right. I remember seeing Egyptian being cited as part of the influences, but it might've been mostly for the languagues
*mythology
It's so strange to hear jan Misali talk to people
nai, nai.
nai shiru jan Misali talk to people
This is so interesting! Probably one of my favorite conlang critic episodes
It’s weird do hear the conlangs people’s voices
Oh hey Rome! It’s me Palatasikun!
@@palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046 hi Palatasikun!
It is I noodle
The Voices of our Conlang Community
@@romefromiris7424 Hi!
Great job editing! I was blown away how well the video flowed. This was way more cohesive than interviews have any right to be.
"I'll see you next time, where I'll be reviewing English."
Dude, this video is so successful, in less than a week there's already new words for describing people who knew Viossa before and after it
BUT I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT THEY ARE NYAHAHA
True facts
"Oh yeah, this is gonna be editted out" ☠️
Ohhhhh, conPIDGIN.
Is it a conlang at that point though?
I like how "fshto" gives "I get you, I get you" vibes
fa sho
(Spoiler warning)
Before I saw that “fshto” was “understand” I noticed just from the way they were using it that it sounded like “verstah” which is the Swiss German for “verstehen” i.e. “to understand”.
It’s amazing that you could pick up the language from acquisition so quickly.
I was able to fshto that, too. 😀
as a musician, its really nice to see other musicians who are this into conlanging.
Yes yes
I never thought of music and language as separate things until people started saying that music was "a language of sorts" as though that wasn't already known. Commodotization and technological evolution of music i think took the connection away from the people in a lot of ways.
The internet let's us congregate around ideas like taking that creative power back.
Yay conlang! Thanks for making us this high quality conlang content! I don't know of anybody who does such a comprehensive overview of conlangs :-)
You were first!
This is a fascinating case study in linguistic evolution
i love the usage of "akkurat" as a "yes"
So good
Your channel is really growing fast. Crazy.
It's the math content I swear!
A lot of people came after he made the video about hangman. I'd say the math videos were the product of the fact that more subscribers came to the channel after that.
Hey wait this isn’t a weird math video
Lol
Maybe it is the weirdest math video ever....
Damn... I know German, English, Swedish and I learn Japanese and I am amazed of how much I understood of the conversation without reading the subtitles.
LET'S GOOOOOOOOO!!! I love conlanging so much
Idk why but the uhhh sound-visual (idk what it's called) under the names while they talk really helped me focus on the discussion. Glad you did that
That's called an audio visualization, and it's created by graphing the different pitches of sound. Spikes on the far left represent bassy sounds, spikes on the far right represent high pitched sounds.
Is there a place to join and try to immerse oneself in viossa? This sounds like a fascinating learn.
i really want to as well
aye same, I love this
I think its on a discord server, don’t know which tho
discord.gg/psJvGxc
there's a link to the r/conlangs server. if you join here, you can ask around for a link, because this is the home of the viossadjin c:
Is your icon the bowl of cheese puffs from Scratch?? :D
[SPOILERS] As a weeb, I love that "soft" is "fuwafuwa" (potentially just "fuwa" if that was reduplication to mean "very soft"?)
I'm pretty sure it comes from the Japanese ふわふわ, which means "soft, fluffy".
@@ChristianPerrotta - Indeed, but I'm unsure if Viossa speakers shorten it to just ふわ in normal speech because I know I totally would.
You're not a weeb.
Youre gonna love this language then. It has a lot of Japanese
I love how much fun the speakers are having in the sample conversation.
wow, a whole video about my favourite regular polygon!
knowing japanese to a certain degree, listening to them speak sounds like exactly how they describe it in the end: english syntax made up of a large japano-norwegian vocab. it is a beautiful language it honestly couldn't be any more perfect for what it is
This has to be one of my favorite logos. Not saying this is the best logo for everyone, but it hits so many of my own personal design delights
me, a french speaker, seeing the word "mange" in viossa:
as a viossadjin for almost a year now, i love coming back to this video to see how the language has grown since :) with the massive influx of people since this video, and seeing just how viossa has expanded, in lexicon, in literature, in video content, in music, its kinda nuts, thank you for this video, and it would be really really cool to see a part 2 for this to see just how much viossa has grown in this past year :)
is there an invite? id like to contribute a little hindi
This is the coolest fricken thing I've ever heard
Akkurat, Viosa manga bra
@WiseMasterNinja maōnge bra
Does Salp have a youtube channel? She has a really beautiful voice and her pronounciation of the phonemes is just so fucking satisfying for some reason
Hearing the spoken sample move into Japanese vocabulary and then move out again was probably the strangest thing my brain has had to comprehend
H
Something about this is just incredibly nourishing to the soul.
And it's not **just** Salp's voice
The sound of this language is so pretty. I loved hearing it
This makes me wish I knew people irl who were willing to do this kind of major linguistic project with me
It's been a while since I've seen this video, but it's one of the most interesting episodes of Conlang Critic that I've seen.
I've definitely watched the entire video before making this comment. I can't believe you said that thing you said that is really controversial for a reason I don't understand
cheeky
@@jeremias-serus stop commenting or change your username, my screen is not yours to break.
Ulric-cirlU no
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@@jeremias-serus ha
Hey, jan Misali, ever thought about making your own conlang? Just curious
I haven't watched his vids in a while, but I think he did. Might be thinking of someone else.
p sure he’s done a video on how not to make a conlang, showing one he’s made
@@jeremias-serus that was biblaridion
toki pona with enough numbers added to do his preferred base
Hello. I invented a totally new way of writing, I use it to do math operations but it works to create words.
I called it the "Argentine Numeral System"
Google it. It's on Medium
If you are interested, ask me here! I would like to make it known to the whole world.
Came here from school meeting
watched the intro
*yeet, here we go*
I could listen to Salp talking for hours
me too
I haven't even seen the whole thing yet, but I can already tell: This is brilliant.
I got the notification for RUclips then Discord and it made me feel so special
Being familiar with a lot of the donor languages and hearing/seeing all of them in Viossa is really beautiful in a way I can't describe
Oh my god, this is so amazing. I love this journalistic style, and your editing on this interviews is excellent. I'm sure you felt plenty of pressure to cut it down, but I would have watched (er, listened to? since it's more like a podcast than video) a whole hour of this.
damn. this is so cool. i wish i could join this. even if they're letting new people in, im just an anglophone with nothing to contribute :|
same
Someone should go in with their own conlang
agreed. ever heard of viesa?
@@blabit4983 I logged in and chatted a bit with everyone, learned some of the basics. I have a pretty developed conlang that I can use, but at least in voice chat I ended up being more spontaneous so I used words from real languages.
@@kzeriar25 Would you happen to have the link to the discord?
Really good language, fascinating to see how language evolves naturally like this. Though the idea of getting 20 or so monolingual people from different languages together to make an “interpidgin” could really be fascinating from a research point of view.
whoa. didn't even have notifications on, and i got here fifteen seconds ago. nice.
So I was listening to the video instead of watching it, which means I heard Iqglic as English, and thought jan Misali was abt to have the boldest take imaginable
It was really nice to have the community view of Viossa on this one. Also, salp's voice sounds super, very really nice. @_@
The Viossa conversation was funny, and I was surprised to see a certain Swedish word having the same meaning in English and Viossa.
The concept of a language having spoilers is completely gorgeous to me.
Love the spoken sample! My mind keeps trying to sort it into languages I roughly know, at least phonetically. Very interesting.
I particularly like the use of fuwafuwa for soft (very soft?, soft-soft?) from Japanese フワフワ.
"Next time I'll be reviewing English"
Oh my gosh...
I was joking when I said he should make natlang critic
long been waiting for another Conlang Critic!
**SPOILERS**
During the recorded conversation I found it very interesting that by listening to their inflections I could tell what line they were on in the translation. At the same time I heard both Japanese and English words even though they were spelled differently. Viossa is amazing!