Many of the doctors in Spain, especially specialists, traumatologists, oculists, dermatologists have their own private practice with which they earn extra money.A doctor in Spain will never be a millionaire (except in certain cases, plastic surgeons, etc.) but will live well above the Spanish average. And the Spanish people are proud of our system.
Same here in Portugal. My brother, a pediatrician, is a civil servant at one of the best State Hospitals in Portugal, makes a fair salary buy has his own practice too and still has time to work part-time at Private Hospitals. Long hours but manageable and he's arguably a very good physician.
I'm spanish doctor and remember once in a flight from Paris to Miami, one plane's staff had an injure in her knee, and the unic thing she wanted was not to go to an american hospital. She was really scared. I get really supresed about that.
as a spanish doc, I am amazed. Clearly the incentive of "pay for performance" has not worked. also, having the insurance companies in the middle has not. middlemen usually drive prices up.
Some people buy private insurance here in Spain too, it's convenient if you have a cold or a sprained ankle and don't want to wait at all to be attended. But guess what, people always go to the public health system when they have something serious or need surgery, because the best professionals are there.
I ve thought many times to go to live in USA; however, the only thing that scared me about the idea was the health care... health care should be like the water service... it is a service that should be cheap enough in order that everybody have access to it because sooner or later you will need it during your life.
The basic diference .Spanish people are so much friendly and solidarity. American people only wants the best for yourself. Sorry for my ridiculous English
I know that Sanitas is a private health care Hmo , they have a similar one in Colombia called Colsanitas and it's first class but expensive. All I'm trying to say is that doctors have an obligation to see all patients and not turn it into a system where only the wealthy have access to good health care.
I dont know really why people blame Obama just to like the spanish health care,maybe its slow somethimes but you could be sure it will solve your problem,which I doubt a poor man would say the same in the US.
Salary or Sales for Healthcare: Um, I don't think the problem is "being too polite", Mr. Goldsmith. Well paid, fair salaries work because lives are not products to be pushed faster down the line or neglected if the deal isn't "sweet enough". The sales model is perfect for non-essential products or luxury items, but counter-productive in saving lives. Sales is a terrible model for healthcare and other essential services. Could you imagine a sales-based police force? Why would we want sales in healthcare? So, who do we want on our "let's save lives" team? (Salary or Sales) Good, honest and caring people are not motivated to be good, honest and caring by money. In fact, they look to get needs met and are happy to help where ever they can. For healthcare, the salary model is perfect. Their needs are met by the salary so they (a good, honest and caring person) can do what they do best and feel good about helping others (it's in their nature). Only people driven by money (personality or temporary circumstance) are motivated by it (and more of it) and they put money/profit before everything/everyone else. That's why they are so good at accumulating it and spend efforts finding ways to do less for more of it (legally or criminally). People who are profit driven and the sales model are not "evil", they are just a terrible fit for saving lives and should stick to selling non-essential, luxury items. Just look at the invention of the World Wide Web (Tim Berners-Lee worked to make it available to all) because a good and honest person realises that information is necessary (not luxury) and it should be available to everyone; rich or poor.
Simple, our health care is better cuz we dont accept the pharmacy industry rules, we dont eat shit food and we pay taxes for it. We dont have to pay for a birth or an operation. The private and public health care sistems share the doctors, so they are the same doctors but public is better cuz a bad pracsis can cost you the career.
One thing I like to add to your speech is that in Spain both trends (private & for profit / public healthcare) coexist I say that just to wipe out whatever fears about "socialist-deep state health care dictatorship" USA audience may have. You can go private health insurance if you want, no one is stoping you. But very often, in most cases, public just turns out t be better
In the UK the doctors are paid more for outcomes that prevent/reduce illness such as encouraging people to change their lifestyle, stop smoking lower blood pressure, diagnose with diabetes etc, that's another reason why the system is cheaper.
Yo soy de Barcelona y eso es mentira. Aquí todo el mundo habla Castellano, en toda la zona urbana del Barcelonés, vallés occidental y oriental y pracitcamente toda la provincia. En Girona sí que se habla con bastante más frecuencia Catalán que castellano, y en algunas partes de lleida. En Tarragona diria que la cosa está más equilibrada 50 - 50.
@@joanijoanis estúpida al servicio del separatismo
15 лет назад+14
CataluÑa is a Autonomic comunity of Spain (mal que les pese a algunos) in al these region; about a 40% - 60% speak catalanish but about 80-90% speak spanish / french.
The problem with the USA is that it´s ruled by corporations with the complicity of the political parties. You simply worship de $. American people, are therefore in second place of importance in the country. In Europe, people come first and it´s organized accordingly : free healthcare, free education, workers rights (1 month paid holidays, paid maternity leave, paid paternity leave, paid sickness days, etc) . The usa doesn´t consider those things as rights, but as privileges., while at the same time, having a gun is a right. I think that american citizens have been brainwashed since they are kids, to beleive that USA is the best place to live, the most free, the most rich, etc etc (but the truth is, as said before, that the USA doesn´t care about its people as it cares about corporations. American citizens need to wake up, open their eyes.
Many Catalan specialists work in New York and they are considered among the best. By the way, doctors on average working for the public healthcare in Spain are not well paid anymore, this is a fact.
vés (va amb accent, cosa que tu mai els col·loques) i que et moqui la "iaia" si que existeix, deixa d'utilitzar el traductor del google, que s'et nota d'una hora lluny. Es nota que mai has mirat un diccionari de català afirmant que "bojos" existeix.
The catalan language : (from wikipedia) Lengua habitual 20032.850.300 50,70% 2008 2.933.300 47,60% Lengua materna 2003 2.177.800 38,70% 2008 2.186.000 34,60% Lengua de identificación 2003 2.947.400 52,50% 2008 3.410.300 55,30% where is the 80-90 % ????????????
continua mantenint aquesta postura que encara t'estàs quedant més retratat. per cert, bojos, no existeix no saps escriure en català, continues dient que bojos es correcte defensa el castellà que se't dóna millor
very interesting, in spain you have the CSIC (which is the responsible to do this kind of questions) but you cited the wikipedia as a source. The "free" encyclopedia where everybody can edit, and, specially the spanish wikipedia where most people said that is infested with the fascism: bits . blogs . nytimes . com/2009/08/27/a-war-of-words-over-wikipedias-spanish-version
Many of the doctors in Spain, especially specialists, traumatologists, oculists, dermatologists have their own private practice with which they earn extra money.A doctor in Spain will never be a millionaire (except in certain cases, plastic surgeons, etc.) but will live well above the Spanish average. And the Spanish people are proud of our system.
Same here in Portugal. My brother, a pediatrician, is a civil servant at one of the best State Hospitals in Portugal, makes a fair salary buy has his own practice too and still has time to work part-time at Private Hospitals. Long hours but manageable and he's arguably a very good physician.
Spain has a humane health system.
I'm spanish doctor and remember once in a flight from Paris to Miami, one plane's staff had an injure in her knee, and the unic thing she wanted was not to go to an american hospital. She was really scared. I get really supresed about that.
In the USA, health is a business, simple.
En Europa no comprendemos como los admirables USA tienen esa carencia en algo tan básico cómo es la Salud de sus ciudadanos. No lo entendemos.
Es medicina de negocio, lucro casi una mafia en eeuu.
as a spanish doc, I am amazed. Clearly the incentive of "pay for performance" has not worked. also, having the insurance companies in the middle has not. middlemen usually drive prices up.
Muy orgullosa de la Seguridas Social espanyola!
Some people buy private insurance here in Spain too, it's convenient if you have a cold or a sprained ankle and don't want to wait at all to be attended. But guess what, people always go to the public health system when they have something serious or need surgery, because the best professionals are there.
I ve thought many times to go to live in USA; however, the only thing that scared me about the idea was the health care... health care should be like the water service... it is a service that should be cheap enough in order that everybody have access to it because sooner or later you will need it during your life.
Spanish healthcare is outstanding. In Spain it is about health + care, in the US it is purely about corporate $$$ profit. Shameful.
The basic diference .Spanish people are so much friendly and solidarity.
American people only wants the best for yourself. Sorry for my ridiculous English
No es ridículo, es muy correcto. Lo único ese yourself, lo correcto sería their self, and main difference.
@@victor999R * themselves
¡Viva España!
I know that Sanitas is a private health care Hmo , they have a similar one in Colombia called Colsanitas and it's first class but expensive. All I'm trying to say is that doctors have an obligation to see all patients and not turn it into a system where only the wealthy have access to good health care.
@eduardalet We had Sanitas when we (wife and two children) lived in Spain. It was a lot cheaper than our insurance here...so expensive. Just saying.
I dont know really why people blame Obama just to like the spanish health care,maybe its slow somethimes but you could be sure it will solve your problem,which I doubt a poor man would say the same in the US.
Salary or Sales for Healthcare:
Um, I don't think the problem is "being too polite", Mr. Goldsmith.
Well paid, fair salaries work because lives are not products to be pushed faster down the line or neglected if the deal isn't "sweet enough". The sales model is perfect for non-essential products or luxury items, but counter-productive in saving lives. Sales is a terrible model for healthcare and other essential services. Could you imagine a sales-based police force? Why would we want sales in healthcare?
So, who do we want on our "let's save lives" team? (Salary or Sales)
Good, honest and caring people are not motivated to be good, honest and caring by money. In fact, they look to get needs met and are happy to help where ever they can. For healthcare, the salary model is perfect. Their needs are met by the salary so they (a good, honest and caring person) can do what they do best and feel good about helping others (it's in their nature).
Only people driven by money (personality or temporary circumstance) are motivated by it (and more of it) and they put money/profit before everything/everyone else. That's why they are so good at accumulating it and spend efforts finding ways to do less for more of it (legally or criminally). People who are profit driven and the sales model are not "evil", they are just a terrible fit for saving lives and should stick to selling non-essential, luxury items.
Just look at the invention of the World Wide Web (Tim Berners-Lee worked to make it available to all) because a good and honest person realises that information is necessary (not luxury) and it should be available to everyone; rich or poor.
maybe in Spain we have one of the better healthcare system in the world
Simple, our health care is better cuz we dont accept the pharmacy industry rules, we dont eat shit food and we pay taxes for it.
We dont have to pay for a birth or an operation. The private and public health care sistems share the doctors, so they are the same doctors but public is better cuz a bad pracsis can cost you the career.
One thing I like to add to your speech is that in Spain both trends (private & for profit / public healthcare) coexist
I say that just to wipe out whatever fears about "socialist-deep state health care dictatorship" USA audience may have.
You can go private health insurance if you want, no one is stoping you. But very often, in most cases, public just turns out t be better
By the way, I'm a 1968 vintage spaniard
In the UK the doctors are paid more for outcomes that prevent/reduce illness such as encouraging people to change their lifestyle, stop smoking lower blood pressure, diagnose with diabetes etc, that's another reason why the system is cheaper.
Yo soy de Barcelona y eso es mentira. Aquí todo el mundo habla Castellano, en toda la zona urbana del Barcelonés, vallés occidental y oriental y pracitcamente toda la provincia. En Girona sí que se habla con bastante más frecuencia Catalán que castellano, y en algunas partes de lleida. En Tarragona diria que la cosa está más equilibrada 50 - 50.
@@joanijoanis estúpida al servicio del separatismo
CataluÑa is a Autonomic comunity of Spain (mal que les pese a algunos)
in al these region; about a 40% - 60% speak catalanish but about 80-90% speak spanish / french.
Ya nos queda muy poco para largarnos...mal les pese a algunos.
@@miquelf93 😂
@@miquelf93 jajajajajajajajajajaajajajaja
NO
@@miquelf93 AJAJAJJAJAJJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJJ no.
"Catalanish" no existe 🤦♀️
Did Spain ban gmo's ?
Ia m sorry nobody saw your question before, no, they are not banned
The problem with the USA is that it´s ruled by corporations with the complicity of the political parties. You simply worship de $. American people, are therefore in second place of importance in the country. In Europe, people come first and it´s organized accordingly : free healthcare, free education, workers rights (1 month paid holidays, paid maternity leave, paid paternity leave, paid sickness days, etc) . The usa doesn´t consider those things as rights, but as privileges., while at the same time, having a gun is a right. I think that american citizens have been brainwashed since they are kids, to beleive that USA is the best place to live, the most free, the most rich, etc etc (but the truth is, as said before, that the USA doesn´t care about its people as it cares about corporations. American citizens need to wake up, open their eyes.
Many Catalan specialists work in New York and they are considered among the best. By the way, doctors on average working for the public healthcare in Spain are not well paid anymore, this is a fact.
Hurry Up!
The evil is coming. Public Services!!!!!!
Maybe Americans should start smoking more?
vés (va amb accent, cosa que tu mai els col·loques) i que et moqui la "iaia"
si que existeix, deixa d'utilitzar el traductor del google, que s'et nota d'una hora lluny.
Es nota que mai has mirat un diccionari de català afirmant que "bojos" existeix.
si si...
doncs parla amb català
The catalan language : (from wikipedia)
Lengua habitual
20032.850.300 50,70%
2008 2.933.300 47,60%
Lengua materna
2003 2.177.800 38,70%
2008 2.186.000 34,60%
Lengua de identificación
2003 2.947.400 52,50%
2008 3.410.300 55,30%
where is the 80-90 % ????????????
deixa d'insultar als altres, que t'estàs buscant que et trenquin la cara
continua mantenint aquesta postura que encara t'estàs quedant més retratat.
per cert, bojos, no existeix
no saps escriure en català, continues dient que bojos es correcte
defensa el castellà que se't dóna millor
very interesting, in spain you have the CSIC (which is the responsible to do this kind of questions) but you cited the wikipedia as a source.
The "free" encyclopedia where everybody can edit, and, specially the spanish wikipedia where most people said that is infested with the fascism:
bits . blogs . nytimes . com/2009/08/27/a-war-of-words-over-wikipedias-spanish-version