When immigrants receive medical care in Spain they are surprised by its quality and above all that medical care, hospital stay and medication are totally free. It is not exactly like that, our health service is not free, it is supportive and protects everyone, whether or not you have money, but it is not free, we Spaniards pay for it.
Some insight into the Spanish healthcare system: you're probably going to read a lot of comments by Spanish people saying that the quality of Spanish healthcare is either really good or not so good. This is because each region in Spain is responsible for providing healthcare for its citizens and, therefore, your experience in a state hospital may vary depending on where you are in Spain. However, healthcare is generally quite good across all regions.
I am a Swiss citizen and while I was on holidays in Spain I got sick. Boy the hospital was incredible and the stuff was so good. As a Swiss I felt it was better than in my home country
As and American I can't understand why can't we stop thinking about healthcare as a business instead of a right. Why don't we take care of our most precious asset (our citizens) is beyond me. We are brainwashed here thinking that we're #1 at everything. I lived in Spain and saw 1st hand how amazing and cheap it is there to be taken care of. People there live a lot longer not only because of the European (Mediterranean diet) but also because their healthcare extends people's lives.
Healthcare is a right in the US. Rights don’t mean that they’re free though. Like the right to own private property. It doesn’t mean that you’re entitled to be given free property for you to exercise the right. It means that, as long as you can afford to own something, you’ll exercise the right to own private property. The same with healthcare
Haha well my guess as an European is that not thinking about healthcare as a business is considered unpatriotic and pure communism in the US .. in fact all of the 10 commandments are if not spoken by one from the party movement are pure communisms ... the good Samaritan for sure must have been an enemy to the US...
@@Stinoco Yes, you have the right to go bankrupt if something happens to your health and can't pay (like my cleaning lady.) We have the most expensive and the worst HC of any industrialized country in the World. In countries like Spain, France, Italy, etc. you go through the emergency room and they see you instantly (10 mins tops.) I took my girlfriend who was fainting in the Emergency room and over 2 hrs before see saw a Dr. They wanted to make sure they could get their grabby hands on he money (good thing she has good insurance.) My point is that until they had her ss#, insurance info, etc. they did not make any efforts towards getting her a doctor. I have experienced this first hand. We are great at creating a competitive economy in the US but it is sad to see our HC and pharma companies bleeding us. We allow it because most people here don't know any better.
@@paquinai Right, Left... who gives a fuck! Democrats and Republicans are in it for the money, not for the people. Our healthcare system is completly broken and nobody can claim the moral high ground because everyone screwed it up.
@@paquinai The Spaniard public health system has functioned with socialist and conservative governments, but it's true that in Spain, apart from the public and private model (both offer cross services), there are hybrid models where there are public care hospitals but of private managing that use some autonomous communities. This model turns out to be more expensive and generate important debts, but in some cases it can offer more flexibility. Some conservative policies have tried to privatize health services but the majority of Spanish society and health professionals have opposed it. A public and universal health is simply a social model just, because everyone has access regardless of their economic status, either to make a simple radiography or a heart operation. European countries, with governments of all colors (Social Democrats, Conservatives, Liberals, Christian Democrats, Environmantalist...) also have inclusive policies and are not communist countries. There are simply things that work and others that don't, and the smart thing to do is use what works. Stop the nonsense!
@@uscaritus the wrong answer is saying that Spain health system is free. Without good economy is unable to maintain it. Spaniards reduce a part of salary via taxes to pay the health system. On the other hand spain doesnt invest so much in military. USA spend a too much.
Perdona pero eso es porque por defecto eres donante. Si no quieres serlo tienes que hacer papeleo y aún así no está garantizado según las circunstancias porque, bueno, la rutina y te jodes (los familiares). Y ahora me puedes salir con lo que quieras pero realmente es por como español esa falta de libertad y derechos en la práctica ojo en la práctica aunque “oficialmente” se niegue con todos los aspavientos o incluso justificaciones que quieras. Edit: Y digo más… en este caso puede parecer por una buena causa (habría que ver si realmente la razón es tan buena pero vale) pero hay otras instancias en que de buena causa poca y es lo mismo. No sé, por ejemplo, un americano si hipoteca su casa y no puede pagar pierde la casa y ya está, un español pierde la casa (normalmente mal vendida en una subasta corrupta empezando por los que “manejan” esos asuntos y los funcionarios implicados) y encima sigue debiendo la hipoteca. Y así muchos otros “detalles” que están ahí ignorados como los gilis que somos hasta que eres el que tiene la mala suerte. Otro edit a ver si no viene censurado je… Por cierto Ley de transplantes para los que balan en vez de pensar. Edit… Vaya… borradas las respuestas. Repito: el defecto es el defecto. En la práctica es lo que se va a aplicar y por eso se es “lider”. Lo demás son apariencias. Que cada uno piense lo que quiera.
@@frgv4060 No sé de donde te sacas esas tonterias ... en España no eres "donante por defecto" ... sino tienes carnet de donante, ni te tocan, como mucho le preguntan a tus familiares.
@@rbetancor 😂😂 lo del carnet de donante en España si es una tontería ay señor. Mira que sois borregos. Anda investiga un poco en vez de balar y creerte lo que no eres 🤣🤣 Edit: Y antes que rebuznes más mira la ley de transplantes “Según la Ley española de Trasplantes, todos somos donantes por defecto. Es decir, a menos que una persona manifieste lo contrario, sus órganos se consideran susceptibles de extracción para trasplantes. “
Vaya me han censurado?? 😂 Ley de transplantes. Carnet de donante oh que bonito 😂😂😂 Edit: por si la otra respuesta “no entra”. Mira hemos pasado de que digo tonterías a que a pesar de todo los familiares tienen la última palabra. El defecto es el defecto y por eso somos “líderes”. Las apariencias en la ley son solo eso para justificar lo que en la práctica ya sea por “familiares no encontrados”, presión psicológica, o “errores” sin realmente consecuencias. En fin… me pregunto porqué insistes en mantener la falsedad jeje Y por si acaso digo… personalmente no tengo problema en donar mis órganos aunque tenga una… ligera… duda en la “honestidad circunstancial” del sistema dada mi experiencia con las instituciones de este país. Y no digo más, cada uno que piense lo que quiera.
@@frgv4060 Seguramente te refieres al apartado 1.a del artículo 9 del RD 1723/2012, pero ese punto por si solo no significa que todo el mundo sea donante "por defecto", porque se tienen que cumplir todos los demás puntos del articulado de ley ... entre ellos todos los subapartados del apartado 6 del mismo artículo 9, donde se fija que se ha de recavar la información de los familiares o allegados para verificar la voluntad del difunto. Ya que las donaciones en vida, son fáciles de comprobar. Y nadie, firma el informe de idoneidad, sin el carnét de donante o la autorización familiar. Siempre se pregunta a familiares ya allegados y si la voluntad del difunto no estaba clara, NO SE TOMAN los órganos.
About ten years ago i was visiting some friends in Granada, Spain. I got sick, fever, headache, out of breath and other symptoms. I didn't want to go to the hospital because I didn't have the money to pay for it but my friend took me anyway. i filled an application with my name and address and medical questions and after half hour wait i got in the hospital, ended up staying in the hospital one day, they did blood test, chest x ray, and the service was incredible, the personalized attention was unbelievable. I was very worried, didn't have thousands of dollars to pay for the hospital stay, when I checked out the bill was $350 Euros. I asked them how much was the total bill and the lady repeated $350.00 Euros. I was shocked how inexpensive it was and the best care I've ever experienced. At the end of the day a patient there is a human being that needs help, in the U S. A patient is a number with a blank check on, two different concepts that are lights years apart... I am not surprised Spain has one of the best health cares in the world.
La cultura anglosajona es muy mercantilista. Todo es dinero y hay derechos básicos como la salud o la educación que no deberían de ser negocio. Pero son así, no van a cambiar.
@@alfredosanchezsanchez9478 non todos el mondo anglosajona, solo EE.UU!! En Australia, NZ, Canada, Reino Unido la sistema saludario es accessible o gratis para todos.
I've lived in Spain Mallorca for fifteen years. The hospital's here are out of this world very clean very short waiting lists .every department know what they are doing. I had a stomach problem they just could not find it. They did not give up on me they found it and took care of it . I cannot thank them enough .
La sanidad debe ser un derecho universal, la educación también…, gracias señora por su valioso testimonio. España 🇪🇸 no debe bajar la guardia y seguir progresando , debe pagar mucho más a sus magníficos profesionales, de otra forma el talento se irá fuera de España.
No entiendo como la asistencia sanitaria en algunos paises es un negocio tan lucrativo y no un derecho fundamental como ciudadano. Saludos desde Madrid.
I'm a spaniard and I have to say I am really proud of our healthcare system. My father had a triple bypass operation and it was amazing how well he was treated ( for free). The hospital was also amazing. We have private hospitals/insuranse but when people have a serious illness they usually turn to the their public healthcare system because it´s better....Of course, as all countries, we have many problems, but our healthcare is really something we can cherish.
Aside from the health system, it's the health of the population itself, especially where I am down in southern Spain. Good food, plenty of walking, Mediterranean sea and air, and lifestyle in general. A LOT if Americans shovel processed rubbish into their bodies and wouldn't even walk to their local shop if their lives depended on it... The amount of active 80 and 90 year olds in my town is incredible.
@@healthcareforall-fremontco5955 Truly, it is incredible that the richest country in the world does not have a decent Health System for its citizens. It is incredible and a shame. You have to fight, shout, protest, etc. etc., everything that is necessary to have a dignified Health System some day. Greetings from Spain
@@3indignada Thank you,. That is exactly what we are trying to do. These videos are one small step. Our eyes have been opened since making these films of people's experiences with healthcare in other countries. We want the same. I'm glad you have a good system.
I had to be airlifted to hospital with a burst appendix on a small Spanish island. I was operated on immediately and 3 week recovery. Doctors since always remark on the neat scar. Virtually no cost, including helicooter! Can you imagine cost of that in US. I have recently lived in Thailand and Colombia which both have incredible high quality healthcare and hospitals at very affordable prices, bot well outranking US in global healthcare index.
It's a question of societal values, in many countries it makes sense to people that healthcare and education benefit everyone and therefore providing them affordably to people benefits society.
usually everything is a business in usa. and for a reason it is the capital of capitalism. because they have been able to do business with everything. at stratospheric levels.
This is not true. You pay the system by paying the taxes. This is why spanish citizens go to hospitals, get healed and go back home without paying anything, because they already paid for it. Some years ago, even non spanish citizens were able to get healed without paying nothing but this changed. Now they pay an amount for the services but definetly not as much as you'd pay in the US as a NA citizen.
That's correct. We don't have universal health care anymore. Nowadays, if you live and work in Spain and pay your taxes, then you got free healthcare. As a tourist, if you don't have the money, they give you a contract of payment (which you can ignore completely and go back to your country without consecuences if you didn't give any personal info, that means, you can abuse of the system, that's why it is getting more and more restrictive each year). Still, it's quite cheap compared to other countries. It was universal until 2008, when the crysis started (we are still in crysis), it didn't matter if you lived in Spain or not, you had the right for free healthcare. As an alternative, while living in Spain you can pay monthly for a private insurance, which is not very expensive, maybe 400-600 euros a year the most expensive insurance. The price depends on the policy, how old you are, and your pre-existing conditions, amongst other things.
In Spain there is a public health care and the private one. There are advantages and downsides for both of them and many Spaniards chose to have both for that reason.
Here in the UK we have the NHS. All Euro countries have some form of easily accessible health care system. We do have private care, which most people use as a top up. We spend half per head of population for health care than they do in America, plus it is universally accessible to UK citizens. So quite why America, stands out in the Western world, with its antiquated system is beyond me. Ideology? Come on America, join the rest of the World.
The "Camino" (I'm guessing she means the "camino de santiago") is in the North of Spain... makes me wonder if this story is real... in any case, saying that Spain's health system outshings the US' is quite an understatement... I mean, most, if not all, of the developed nations' health system outshine the US'... and the Spanish one is among the best
I also found it odd, she was in Tarifa on her way to Morocco, not going on a pilgrimage to St James's grave but to Africa instead. Her GPS needs resetting.
I am a Spanish national that lives in Finland and I have to say that, despite being more expensive, the Finnish healthcare is in no way better than the Spanish. As more private companies take over the system, this becomes more expensive and of worse quality.
We don't have universal healthcare anymore. I would call it "public" instead. If you live and work in Spain and pay your taxes, then you got free healthcare, no problems, you can use it as much as you want. As a tourist, if you are not european, you have to pay, but it's not very expensive. If you get to ER via ambulance, and you don't have the money, they give you a contract of payment (which you can ignore completely and go back to your country without consecuences if you didn't give any personal info, that means, you can abuse of the system, that's why it is getting more and more restrictive each year). Still, it's quite cheap compared to other countries. It was universal until 2008 I think, when the crysis started (we are still in crysis), it didn't matter if you lived in Spain or not, you had the right for free healthcare. As an alternative, while living in Spain you can pay monthly for a private insurance, which is not very expensive. The cheapest I think is around 10 euros a month, and despite being cheap, it's quite good, covering many many things. Maybe 400-600 euros a year the most expensive insurance. The price depends on the company you choose, the policy, how old you are, and your pre-existing conditions, amongst other things.
The Spanish public system will send the claim to the other country's public system or to the insurance company. They have international agreements for this and it is done all the time.
I totally agree with her because something similar happened to me in Ecuador and in Medellin, Colombia and in both cases the service was outstanding and VERY cheap even when I was a tourist. Unfortunately, here in the US we are all about MONEY, and less about service and humanity. I just retired and have decided to permanently move either to Spain or South of France before the end of this year (today is July 31, 2023) or the beginning of the 2024. Enough of this abuse. And god forbid the crazy brats of the GOP get into the White House again, because only then Americans will know how a third world country lives...
German, if you are asking if there are other countries that do not have a universal healthcare system, then the US is the only industrialized country that doesn't offer its citizens a universal healthcare system where all people are covered or taken care of. This is what we are striving for.
Deberías haber tenido una ambulancia para el hospital. En España, la asistencia sanitaria es gratuita ya que se pone un pie en el país y los medicamentos también. Nos tomamos la salud muy en serio (gratis), la educación (gratis) y la jubilación.
@Double Bubble Disco Queen Porsupuesto... Gracias al reparto equitativo fiscal ....uno pa ti dos pa mi saca (Partido popular)...ahora que comparar nuestra sanidad con la de los norteamericanos no cuenta.....fíjate a quien votaron!!...salvo unos pocos debe ser una sociedad esperpéntica
Discusión interesante. Lo que quizás no sepa es que aquí en los Estados Unidos, muchos de nosotros tenemos costos que debemos pagar (según lo exige la ley) todos los meses a una corporación con fines de lucro = compañía de seguros de salud ($ 600 por persona). Luego, debemos pagar una cierta cantidad anual (deducible de $ 5,000 K por persona) antes de que la compañía de seguros comience a pagar nuestros gastos médicos. Mi hijo de 32 años paga el 30% de sus ingresos solo por la cobertura médica. ¡Indignante! No importa cuáles sean los impuestos de España, dudo que sean del 30% para un servicio. Gracias por comentar, este video ha visto muchos éxitos. Las personas alegres están interesadas.
Interesting discussion. What you may not know is that here in the United States so many of us have costs that we must pay (required by law) every month to a for-profit corporation = health insurance company ($600 per person). Then, we have to pay a certain amount ($5,000K deductible per person) annually before the insurance company starts paying our medical expenses. My 32-year-old son pays 30% of his income just for medical coverage. Outrageous! No matter what Spain's taxes are, I doubt they are 30% for one service. Thanks for commenting, this video has seen many hits. Glad people are interested.
I am spaniard. And for me USA is a great country. I adore America. And the 99% if people who i know too. All the countries must change things with the time. No only the usa. Believe me: America is a very, very, very nice nation. And people, in general, is lovely. GOD bless America & Viva España 🇪🇸🇪🇺 ♥️ 🇺🇲
In 2 days the General Election will be held, while the left believes in universal free healthcare, the right in different regions where they govern are striking deals with private healthcare companies, some from across the Atlantic, and cutting funds and staff for the public system, to drive people towards private insurance. So the General Election might have a great impact on the future of healthcare for all in Spain.
What are you talking about, I'm from Spain and they can perfectly give you a routine appointment anytime you need as long as the doctor's available (you can get one within the same week you're booking the appointment easily). When I was a kid I had to go to the doctor a lot due to asthma and constantly catching colds. If I woke up and was coughing a lot in a schoolday morning, I just had to call the nearest medical center and they would give me an appointment as early as in twenty minutes and as late as within two hours. I often arrived late due to having breakfast and having to get dressed first.
If you're from the US, you obviously haven't been to a Dr. in the last ten years. I just changed my primary care physician because my DR. was booking two months out for "any" appointment. Everyone in my area has that much of a wait or longer. I'm getting decent times going to a non-profit clinic. What imaginary country are you living in?
The Spanish pay the health taxes from their salaries directly to the State. It is not free. You don' t have to pay for your visits or treatments because all the Spanish pay it from their salaries.
Ang Grs, a lot of us in the United States wish that we could pay a tax for our health care. Right now we pay big companies thousand of dollars EVERY MONTH for our health care. Often we have very large deductibles so we pay anyway for a Dr. visit and other services, even emergency services. My annual Dr. visit is $270 dollars. The doctor sees me for about 12 minutes. The insurance company does NOT pay for that. It won't pay until I reach $7,000 annually. Then it will start to pay. These insurance companies are only concerned about profit. They get to decide our treatment. A very bad system. You can see why we'd love to have a healthcare system like yours.
@@jfvan78 Well, what you say it's kind of drama. In Spain everybody gets the health care system " for free ". It is not fair you have to pay that money for a visit. I cannot imagine what a serious treatment means for families. I know a few Americans living here and can' t believe how this system works as well as universities. The don't want to go back to the States. Politicians should reconsider about it. Health shouldn't be a business. Take care!
@@klmklm8570, I absolutely agree with you. You would not believe what the hospitals charge for an emergency visit. in the U.S. At least $3,000 to walk through their doors. A really bad injury can cost them 10 times that much. A lot of people in the U.S. lose their homes because they cannot afford to pay their hospital bill. It is really a crime. And a lot of people don't see their doctors because of the high cost of health care. And because of this 45,000 people die annually because they cannot get access to care. It is interesting to know to that Americans living in Spain like your healthcare system. I cannot see why they wouldn't like it. I wish we had a similar system. My husband and I have looked into retiring in Spain. Thank you for the information.
@@jfvan78 You will always be very welcome. The States is a fully respected country in Spain. You need to be registered at the home town to get acces to the public services. In Spain any politician would dare to change the public healthcare system. We cannot imagine paying those bills. It's ridiculous.
@@klmklm8570 How welcoming you are! Good information to know. Most Americans do not think very highly of our politicians. Their approval rate is less than 10 %. That means 90% of Americans think our politicians are doing a terrible job. And they are. I wish we could kick most of them out and start over with people who actually care about American citizens. A lot of our politicians take money from big corporations so our laws reflect what the big companies want, not what the people want. Anyway, thank you for your kind words. I appreciate you taking the time to explain your country to me.
Do investigate the exodus of Spanish doctors to places like Germany because of triple wages and also the influx of South American doctors to fill the void. Recent interventions in which my wife of 50 years illustrated the incompetence and total disregard for any empathetic interaction with patients. The reason? This is their culture speaking through their actions. Spaniards and South Americans are totally different in their attitudes toward the patients. The mental distress caused by the disregard and downright dismissiveness toward the patient is what you might expect from a veterinarian, not a doctor who swore the Hippocratic Oath promising to "DO NO HARM". Want good healthcare...get a Spanish doctor.
It's sad what we put up with here in the U.S. I have insurance and because of my deductible I got stuck with over $4000 from an E.R visit and they did nothing but labs. It's time to leave this country.
Yes sa ga, unfortunately, you are part of a large group of UNDERINSURED people in the U.S. who are "insured" by a for-profit "health care" company. Millions of people are experiencing what you have just described. Not only do you pay your monthly premiums, but you are also responsible for paying outrageous deductibles. It's a no-win situation. I am sorry for what you are going through. It is a sad state of affairs when people are harshly penalized for seeking needed health care services. I understand why a person wouldn't want to live in a country with this type of health care system, especially during a pandemic. Stay safe.
As a Spanish American I call BS. A dogs vet visit is more than that. She went to a private clinic, probably some sports medicine. If you go to the public healthcare the first thing you show is your healthcare card. If you use the public healthcare while uninsured, you will be billed. Our public healthcare system sucks. Long waits for tests/procedures, and I mean lonnnggg waits, like years. I am currently sick and waiting for bloodwork since Nov. 29, have an appointment for the 15th and then wait until the 27th to see my primary care. 1 month to see my primary care, awesome!!!. In the USA, even on public healthcare it would only be a few days to see primary, she would draw the blood during the visit and two days later you would have results. Want more real world? My mother was diagnosed with cancer in Spain, took them 1 year to diagnose her, and it was a private clinic that found it. Our worthless public health doctors told her she didn't have any cancer. Showed the results from the private clinic to the public healthcare docs. They gave her 6 months to live and said they would not do any surgery. We went back to the USA and on her medicare had surgery, chemo etc. She later went on to have 2 more surgeries back in the USA, as unfortunately the cancer came back. She lived almost 5 years. Yeah! Spanish healthcare, a POS!
@@gundalfx Spain is not a bad choice and I am very impressed with the Quality of health care In Europe especially the High cost Equipment in Hospitals and other places. Amen to the Proposion in 2022.
That is an inheritance from the times of Franco. the benefits are very similar to those of 40 years ago, with the addition that at that time no taxes were paid. Now we all pay very high taxes, and the system has not improved accordingly.
When immigrants receive medical care in Spain they are surprised by its quality and above all that medical care, hospital stay and medication are totally free. It is not exactly like that, our health service is not free, it is supportive and protects everyone, whether or not you have money, but it is not free, we Spaniards pay for it.
Some insight into the Spanish healthcare system: you're probably going to read a lot of comments by Spanish people saying that the quality of Spanish healthcare is either really good or not so good. This is because each region in Spain is responsible for providing healthcare for its citizens and, therefore, your experience in a state hospital may vary depending on where you are in Spain. However, healthcare is generally quite good across all regions.
I am a Swiss citizen and while I was on holidays in Spain I got sick. Boy the hospital was incredible and the stuff was so good. As a Swiss I felt it was better than in my home country
Thank you for sharing your story. I'm amazed at how ignorant most Americans are about much better healthcare systems around the world.
As A Spanish living in zug I would say that Spain has better system but worst quality, but I have to pay 5k in zug, and Spanish is free
a lot of europeans get sick and come to spain to get healt.. as we are dumb we pay for them
@@iZuqee that makes no sense lol
@@elnoideelsencarrecs8528 En Suiza NO PAGAN IMPUESTOS .... jajajajajajajajajajajajajaj
As and American I can't understand why can't we stop thinking about healthcare as a business instead of a right. Why don't we take care of our most precious asset (our citizens) is beyond me. We are brainwashed here thinking that we're #1 at everything. I lived in Spain and saw 1st hand how amazing and cheap it is there to be taken care of. People there live a lot longer not only because of the European (Mediterranean diet) but also because their healthcare extends people's lives.
Healthcare is a right in the US. Rights don’t mean that they’re free though. Like the right to own private property. It doesn’t mean that you’re entitled to be given free property for you to exercise the right. It means that, as long as you can afford to own something, you’ll exercise the right to own private property. The same with healthcare
Haha well my guess as an European is that not thinking about healthcare as a business is considered unpatriotic and pure communism in the US .. in fact all of the 10 commandments are if not spoken by one from the party movement are pure communisms ... the good Samaritan for sure must have been an enemy to the US...
@@Stinoco Yes, you have the right to go bankrupt if something happens to your health and can't pay (like my cleaning lady.) We have the most expensive and the worst HC of any industrialized country in the World. In countries like Spain, France, Italy, etc. you go through the emergency room and they see you instantly (10 mins tops.) I took my girlfriend who was fainting in the Emergency room and over 2 hrs before see saw a Dr. They wanted to make sure they could get their grabby hands on he money (good thing she has good insurance.) My point is that until they had her ss#, insurance info, etc. they did not make any efforts towards getting her a doctor. I have experienced this first hand. We are great at creating a competitive economy in the US but it is sad to see our HC and pharma companies bleeding us. We allow it because most people here don't know any better.
@@Stinoco No, in the USA health is not a right, it is a business. It is not a Right if all citizens, rich and poor, cannot have it.
Because america is shyt.
In 2018, the Spanish health system is considered the 2nd. best system in the world after Hong Kong.
And the U.S. is much farther down the list. A shame for sure! Glad you have a good system!
Wow are you serious? I'm spanish and I'm impressed, what are your sources?
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Funny, isn't it?
@Félix G what was your experience?
The health system it is (should be) a right, not a luxury.
Greetings from Spain!
Totally agree! Just have to vote the right people in!
the right side is trying to destroy our health system just for money
@@paquinai Right, Left... who gives a fuck! Democrats and Republicans are in it for the money, not for the people. Our healthcare system is completly broken and nobody can claim the moral high ground because everyone screwed it up.
@@paquinai
The Spaniard public health system has functioned with socialist and conservative governments, but it's true that in Spain, apart from the public and private model (both offer cross services), there are hybrid models where there are public care hospitals but of private managing that use some autonomous communities. This model turns out to be more expensive and generate important debts, but in some cases it can offer more flexibility. Some conservative policies have tried to privatize health services but the majority of Spanish society and health professionals have opposed it.
A public and universal health is simply a social model just, because everyone has access regardless of their economic status, either to make a simple radiography or a heart operation.
European countries, with governments of all colors (Social Democrats, Conservatives, Liberals, Christian Democrats, Environmantalist...) also have inclusive policies and are not communist countries. There are simply things that work and others that don't, and the smart thing to do is use what works. Stop the nonsense!
@@uscaritus the wrong answer is saying that Spain health system is free. Without good economy is unable to maintain it. Spaniards reduce a part of salary via taxes to pay the health system.
On the other hand spain doesnt invest so much in military. USA spend a too much.
España es el primer país de mundo en donaciones de organos y el primero también en transplantes. Un país con alma, lo hacen , personas con alma.
Perdona pero eso es porque por defecto eres donante. Si no quieres serlo tienes que hacer papeleo y aún así no está garantizado según las circunstancias porque, bueno, la rutina y te jodes (los familiares). Y ahora me puedes salir con lo que quieras pero realmente es por como español esa falta de libertad y derechos en la práctica ojo en la práctica aunque “oficialmente” se niegue con todos los aspavientos o incluso justificaciones que quieras.
Edit: Y digo más… en este caso puede parecer por una buena causa (habría que ver si realmente la razón es tan buena pero vale) pero hay otras instancias en que de buena causa poca y es lo mismo. No sé, por ejemplo, un americano si hipoteca su casa y no puede pagar pierde la casa y ya está, un español pierde la casa (normalmente mal vendida en una subasta corrupta empezando por los que “manejan” esos asuntos y los funcionarios implicados) y encima sigue debiendo la hipoteca. Y así muchos otros “detalles” que están ahí ignorados como los gilis que somos hasta que eres el que tiene la mala suerte.
Otro edit a ver si no viene censurado je…
Por cierto
Ley de transplantes para los que balan en vez de pensar.
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Vaya… borradas las respuestas. Repito: el defecto es el defecto. En la práctica es lo que se va a aplicar y por eso se es “lider”. Lo demás son apariencias. Que cada uno piense lo que quiera.
@@frgv4060 No sé de donde te sacas esas tonterias ... en España no eres "donante por defecto" ... sino tienes carnet de donante, ni te tocan, como mucho le preguntan a tus familiares.
@@rbetancor 😂😂 lo del carnet de donante en España si es una tontería ay señor. Mira que sois borregos. Anda investiga un poco en vez de balar y creerte lo que no eres 🤣🤣
Edit: Y antes que rebuznes más mira la ley de transplantes “Según la Ley española de Trasplantes, todos somos donantes por defecto. Es decir, a menos que una persona manifieste lo contrario, sus órganos se consideran susceptibles de extracción para trasplantes. “
Vaya me han censurado?? 😂 Ley de transplantes. Carnet de donante oh que bonito 😂😂😂
Edit: por si la otra respuesta “no entra”. Mira hemos pasado de que digo tonterías a que a pesar de todo los familiares tienen la última palabra. El defecto es el defecto y por eso somos “líderes”. Las apariencias en la ley son solo eso para justificar lo que en la práctica ya sea por “familiares no encontrados”, presión psicológica, o “errores” sin realmente consecuencias. En fin… me pregunto porqué insistes en mantener la falsedad jeje
Y por si acaso digo… personalmente no tengo problema en donar mis órganos aunque tenga una… ligera… duda en la “honestidad circunstancial” del sistema dada mi experiencia con las instituciones de este país. Y no digo más, cada uno que piense lo que quiera.
@@frgv4060 Seguramente te refieres al apartado 1.a del artículo 9 del RD 1723/2012, pero ese punto por si solo no significa que todo el mundo sea donante "por defecto", porque se tienen que cumplir todos los demás puntos del articulado de ley ... entre ellos todos los subapartados del apartado 6 del mismo artículo 9, donde se fija que se ha de recavar la información de los familiares o allegados para verificar la voluntad del difunto. Ya que las donaciones en vida, son fáciles de comprobar.
Y nadie, firma el informe de idoneidad, sin el carnét de donante o la autorización familiar.
Siempre se pregunta a familiares ya allegados y si la voluntad del difunto no estaba clara, NO SE TOMAN los órganos.
About ten years ago i was visiting some friends in Granada, Spain. I got sick, fever, headache, out of breath and other symptoms. I didn't want to go to the hospital because I didn't have the money to pay for it but my friend took me anyway. i filled an application with my name and address and medical questions and after half hour wait i got in the hospital, ended up staying in the hospital one day, they did blood test, chest x ray, and the service was incredible, the personalized attention was unbelievable. I was very worried, didn't have thousands of dollars to pay for the hospital stay, when I checked out the bill was $350 Euros. I asked them how much was the total bill and the lady repeated $350.00 Euros. I was shocked how inexpensive it was and the best care I've ever experienced. At the end of the day a patient there is a human being that needs help, in the U S. A patient is a number with a blank check on, two different concepts that are lights years apart... I am not surprised Spain has one of the best health cares in the world.
La cultura anglosajona es muy mercantilista. Todo es dinero y hay derechos básicos como la salud o la educación que no deberían de ser negocio. Pero son así, no van a cambiar.
@@alfredosanchezsanchez9478 non todos el mondo anglosajona, solo EE.UU!! En Australia, NZ, Canada, Reino Unido la sistema saludario es accessible o gratis para todos.
Im from Granada and im glad my city's healthcare mede you feel so good. Have a good day and I hope you come back soon!
I've lived in Spain Mallorca for fifteen years. The hospital's here are out of this world very clean very short waiting lists .every department know what they are doing. I had a stomach problem they just could not find it. They did not give up on me they found it and took care of it . I cannot thank them enough .
The difference between a right and a business.
It's incredible that such a rich country like the USA has no public health care.
La sanidad debe ser un derecho universal, la educación también…, gracias señora por su valioso testimonio. España 🇪🇸 no debe bajar la guardia y seguir progresando , debe pagar mucho más a sus magníficos profesionales, de otra forma el talento se irá fuera de España.
SOMOS TAN SOLIDARIOS QUE SOMOS TONTOS. VETE A LOS PAISES DE ESTA GENTE HABER SI TE DAN TANTAS COSAS COMO AQUÍ.
No entiendo como la asistencia sanitaria en algunos paises es un negocio tan lucrativo y no un derecho fundamental como ciudadano. Saludos desde Madrid.
Vengo de África he vivido como 3 años en España pero la verda a ami siento qu España es de mejor país en Europa 😏🇪🇸
En algunos paises y en todas las comunidades gobernadas por el PP😤
Right now Spanish Health care is TOP3 in the world!!!
I'm a spaniard and I have to say I am really proud of our healthcare system. My father had a triple bypass operation and it was amazing how well he was treated ( for free). The hospital was also amazing. We have private hospitals/insuranse but when people have a serious illness they usually turn to the their public healthcare system because it´s better....Of course, as all countries, we have many problems, but our healthcare is really something we can cherish.
Aside from the health system, it's the health of the population itself, especially where I am down in southern Spain. Good food, plenty of walking, Mediterranean sea and air, and lifestyle in general. A LOT if Americans shovel processed rubbish into their bodies and wouldn't even walk to their local shop if their lives depended on it... The amount of active 80 and 90 year olds in my town is incredible.
So important to hear reactions from citizens of more health friendly countries!!
Great video. I am from Spain and is correct. We have a fantastic health system!!!
One that most American's can't even dream about.
Thanks for posting, JHF. Good to know that you have a wonderful healthcare system. Wish we had one. :)
@@healthcareforall-fremontco5955 Truly, it is incredible that the richest country in the world does not have a decent Health System for its citizens. It is incredible and a shame.
You have to fight, shout, protest, etc. etc., everything that is necessary to have a dignified Health System some day.
Greetings from Spain
@@3indignada Thank you,. That is exactly what we are trying to do. These videos are one small step. Our eyes have been opened since making these films of people's experiences with healthcare in other countries. We want the same. I'm glad you have a good system.
@@jfvan78 Someday you'll have it, I'm sure. I wish you lots of luck. A hug
I had to be airlifted to hospital with a burst appendix on a small Spanish island. I was operated on immediately and 3 week recovery. Doctors since always remark on the neat scar. Virtually no cost, including helicooter! Can you imagine cost of that in US. I have recently lived in Thailand and Colombia which both have incredible high quality healthcare and hospitals at very affordable prices, bot well outranking US in global healthcare index.
America needs this
América no USA
It's a question of societal values, in many countries it makes sense to people that healthcare and education benefit everyone and therefore providing them affordably to people benefits society.
USA we have a romance with business medicine and it's bringing us to a heartbreak.
usually everything is a business in usa. and for a reason it is the capital of capitalism. because they have been able to do business with everything. at stratospheric levels.
they charged you 36 eur. maybe becouse you're tourist due some paper fees etc.. if you were spanish citizen you would've walked out payin zero.
This is not true. You pay the system by paying the taxes. This is why spanish citizens go to hospitals, get healed and go back home without paying anything, because they already paid for it. Some years ago, even non spanish citizens were able to get healed without paying nothing but this changed. Now they pay an amount for the services but definetly not as much as you'd pay in the US as a NA citizen.
@@NeCLiaH It's quite obvious that when you can access a public service for free it is actually paid through taxes, there's no need to point it out.
@@jaimethespaniard It's not that obvious, a lot of spanish people think it is free because they do not pay when they get attended.
@@NeCLiaH No, everyone in the whole world knows what taxes are
That's correct. We don't have universal health care anymore. Nowadays, if you live and work in Spain and pay your taxes, then you got free healthcare. As a tourist, if you don't have the money, they give you a contract of payment (which you can ignore completely and go back to your country without consecuences if you didn't give any personal info, that means, you can abuse of the system, that's why it is getting more and more restrictive each year). Still, it's quite cheap compared to other countries. It was universal until 2008, when the crysis started (we are still in crysis), it didn't matter if you lived in Spain or not, you had the right for free healthcare. As an alternative, while living in Spain you can pay monthly for a private insurance, which is not very expensive, maybe 400-600 euros a year the most expensive insurance. The price depends on the policy, how old you are, and your pre-existing conditions, amongst other things.
In Spain there is a public health care and the private one. There are advantages and downsides for both of them and many Spaniards chose to have both for that reason.
In Spain the health is for everybody's
Here in the UK we have the NHS. All Euro countries have some form of easily accessible health care system. We do have private care, which most people use as a top up. We spend half per head of population for health care than they do in America, plus it is universally accessible to UK citizens. So quite why America, stands out in the Western world, with its antiquated system is beyond me. Ideology? Come on America, join the rest of the World.
For some it will be surprising to see the USA in 37th place, but what surprises me is to see Denmark in 33rd and Finland in 31st.
The "Camino" (I'm guessing she means the "camino de santiago") is in the North of Spain... makes me wonder if this story is real... in any case, saying that Spain's health system outshings the US' is quite an understatement... I mean, most, if not all, of the developed nations' health system outshine the US'... and the Spanish one is among the best
It is most certainly real. I know this person. She was there.
@@madeleinejacobs2842 the she got terribly lost during el Camino and ended up on the other end of Spain hahahah
I also found it odd, she was in Tarifa on her way to Morocco, not going on a pilgrimage to St James's grave but to Africa instead. Her GPS needs resetting.
That´s why I left New York after twenty eight years and moved back to Spain (where I belong).
I am a Spanish national that lives in Finland and I have to say that, despite being more expensive, the Finnish healthcare is in no way better than the Spanish. As more private companies take over the system, this becomes more expensive and of worse quality.
The concept in the EU of "heathcare" corresponds more to a "human right", while in the USA it corresponds more to "business".
In USA are only free if you are in Dr. House ,Emergency,ER and similar shows while in reality not so
Every country should have part of the budget to universal sanitary attention for population.., is a huge jump on life’s quality,..
Maybe those thinking healthcare is a business should think "how much MORE can produce a HEALTHY person than a sick one?"
1200 millones de euros de déficit en la sanidad pública y 800.000 personas en lista de espera para una operación.
Spaniards often say: "Health comes first."
It's clear that they take this very seriously.
healthcare spain is universal.
We don't have universal healthcare anymore. I would call it "public" instead. If you live and work in Spain and pay your taxes, then you got free healthcare, no problems, you can use it as much as you want. As a tourist, if you are not european, you have to pay, but it's not very expensive. If you get to ER via ambulance, and you don't have the money, they give you a contract of payment (which you can ignore completely and go back to your country without consecuences if you didn't give any personal info, that means, you can abuse of the system, that's why it is getting more and more restrictive each year). Still, it's quite cheap compared to other countries. It was universal until 2008 I think, when the crysis started (we are still in crysis), it didn't matter if you lived in Spain or not, you had the right for free healthcare. As an alternative, while living in Spain you can pay monthly for a private insurance, which is not very expensive. The cheapest I think is around 10 euros a month, and despite being cheap, it's quite good, covering many many things. Maybe 400-600 euros a year the most expensive insurance. The price depends on the company you choose, the policy, how old you are, and your pre-existing conditions, amongst other things.
The Spanish public system will send the claim to the other country's public system or to the insurance company. They have international agreements for this and it is done all the time.
I totally agree with her because something similar happened to me in Ecuador and in Medellin, Colombia and in both cases the service was outstanding and VERY cheap even when I was a tourist. Unfortunately, here in the US we are all about MONEY, and less about service and humanity. I just retired and have decided to permanently move either to Spain or South of France before the end of this year (today is July 31, 2023) or the beginning of the 2024. Enough of this abuse. And god forbid the crazy brats of the GOP get into the White House again, because only then Americans will know how a third world country lives...
Is there any country healthcare system that doesn't?
German, if you are asking if there are other countries that do not have a universal healthcare system, then the US is the only industrialized country that doesn't offer its citizens a universal healthcare system where all people are covered or taken care of. This is what we are striving for.
Deberías haber tenido una ambulancia para el hospital. En España, la asistencia sanitaria es gratuita ya que se pone un pie en el país y los medicamentos también. Nos tomamos la salud muy en serio (gratis), la educación (gratis) y la jubilación.
Una vez atiborrado de impuestos....asi florece lo "gratis"
@Double Bubble Disco Queen Porsupuesto... Gracias al reparto equitativo fiscal ....uno pa ti dos pa mi saca (Partido popular)...ahora que comparar nuestra sanidad con la de los norteamericanos no cuenta.....fíjate a quien votaron!!...salvo unos pocos debe ser una sociedad esperpéntica
@Double Bubble Disco Queen Exactamente, y eso que no tenemos los mismos impuestos que el resto de países europeos que son más altos.
Discusión interesante. Lo que quizás no sepa es que aquí en los Estados Unidos, muchos de nosotros tenemos costos que debemos pagar (según lo exige la ley) todos los meses a una corporación con fines de lucro = compañía de seguros de salud ($ 600 por persona). Luego, debemos pagar una cierta cantidad anual (deducible de $ 5,000 K por persona) antes de que la compañía de seguros comience a pagar nuestros gastos médicos. Mi hijo de 32 años paga el 30% de sus ingresos solo por la cobertura médica. ¡Indignante! No importa cuáles sean los impuestos de España, dudo que sean del 30% para un servicio. Gracias por comentar, este video ha visto muchos éxitos. Las personas alegres están interesadas.
Interesting discussion. What you may not know is that here in the United States so many of us have costs that we must pay (required by law) every month to a for-profit corporation = health insurance company ($600 per person). Then, we have to pay a certain amount ($5,000K deductible per person) annually before the insurance company starts paying our medical expenses. My 32-year-old son pays 30% of his income just for medical coverage. Outrageous! No matter what Spain's taxes are, I doubt they are 30% for one service. Thanks for commenting, this video has seen many hits. Glad people are interested.
In USA if you get cancer or need surgery but you dont have tons of cash you better prepare coffin
Come on, Spain is EU, of course it is better than US
I am spaniard. And for me USA is a great country. I adore America. And the 99% if people who i know too. All the countries must change things with the time. No only the usa. Believe me: America is a very, very, very nice nation. And people, in general, is lovely. GOD bless America & Viva España 🇪🇸🇪🇺 ♥️ 🇺🇲
Es de antes de entrar en la ue,
Falta traducción al castellano.
Nigeria´s Healthcare Outshines the U. S.
In 2 days the General Election will be held, while the left believes in universal free healthcare, the right in different regions where they govern are striking deals with private healthcare companies, some from across the Atlantic, and cutting funds and staff for the public system, to drive people towards private insurance. So the General Election might have a great impact on the future of healthcare for all in Spain.
And routinely wait 3 months for a routine appointment with a doctor, in social medicine systems in countries like Spain
What are you talking about, I'm from Spain and they can perfectly give you a routine appointment anytime you need as long as the doctor's available (you can get one within the same week you're booking the appointment easily). When I was a kid I had to go to the doctor a lot due to asthma and constantly catching colds. If I woke up and was coughing a lot in a schoolday morning, I just had to call the nearest medical center and they would give me an appointment as early as in twenty minutes and as late as within two hours. I often arrived late due to having breakfast and having to get dressed first.
If you're from the US, you obviously haven't been to a Dr. in the last ten years. I just changed my primary care physician because my DR. was booking two months out for "any" appointment. Everyone in my area has that much of a wait or longer. I'm getting decent times going to a non-profit clinic. What imaginary country are you living in?
Si es de rutina la cita te la tendra que dar el médico. Ahora biensi es de urgencia cojes y vas tu directamente.
The Spanish pay the health taxes from their salaries directly to the State.
It is not free. You don' t have to pay for your visits or treatments because all the Spanish pay it from their salaries.
Ang Grs, a lot of us in the United States wish that we could pay a tax for our health care. Right now we pay big companies thousand of dollars EVERY MONTH for our health care. Often we have very large deductibles so we pay anyway for a Dr. visit and other services, even emergency services. My annual Dr. visit is $270 dollars. The doctor sees me for about 12 minutes. The insurance company does NOT pay for that. It won't pay until I reach $7,000 annually. Then it will start to pay. These insurance companies are only concerned about profit. They get to decide our treatment. A very bad system. You can see why we'd love to have a healthcare system like yours.
@@jfvan78 Well, what you say it's kind of drama. In Spain everybody gets the health care system " for free ". It is not fair you have to pay that money for a visit.
I cannot imagine what a serious treatment means for families.
I know a few Americans living here and can' t believe how this system works as well as universities. The don't want to go back to the States.
Politicians should reconsider about it. Health shouldn't be a business.
Take care!
@@klmklm8570, I absolutely agree with you. You would not believe what the hospitals charge for an emergency visit. in the U.S. At least $3,000 to walk through their doors. A really bad injury can cost them 10 times that much. A lot of people in the U.S. lose their homes because they cannot afford to pay their hospital bill. It is really a crime. And a lot of people don't see their doctors because of the high cost of health care. And because of this 45,000 people die annually because they cannot get access to care. It is interesting to know to that Americans living in Spain like your healthcare system. I cannot see why they wouldn't like it. I wish we had a similar system. My husband and I have looked into retiring in Spain. Thank you for the information.
@@jfvan78 You will always be very welcome. The States is a fully respected country in Spain.
You need to be registered at the home town to get acces to the public services.
In Spain any politician would dare to change the public healthcare system. We cannot imagine paying those bills. It's ridiculous.
@@klmklm8570 How welcoming you are! Good information to know. Most Americans do not think very highly of our politicians. Their approval rate is less than 10 %. That means 90% of Americans think our politicians are doing a terrible job. And they are. I wish we could kick most of them out and start over with people who actually care about American citizens. A lot of our politicians take money from big corporations so our laws reflect what the big companies want, not what the people want. Anyway, thank you for your kind words. I appreciate you taking the time to explain your country to me.
Do investigate the exodus of Spanish doctors to places like Germany because of triple wages and also the influx of South American doctors to fill the void. Recent interventions in which my wife of 50 years illustrated the incompetence and total disregard for any empathetic interaction with patients. The reason? This is their culture speaking through their actions. Spaniards and South Americans are totally different in their attitudes toward the patients. The mental distress caused by the disregard and downright dismissiveness toward the patient is what you might expect from a veterinarian, not a doctor who swore the Hippocratic Oath promising to "DO NO HARM". Want good healthcare...get a Spanish doctor.
Healthcare for all but you need to afford somehow,..
Doctors need to live,..
In Spain part of the state budgets go to sanity..,
You spend 40% of the country budget on military,.. Spain about 3-4%,..
It's sad what we put up with here in the U.S. I have insurance and because of my deductible I got stuck with over $4000 from an E.R visit and they did nothing but labs. It's time to leave this country.
Yes sa ga, unfortunately, you are part of a large group of UNDERINSURED people in the U.S. who are "insured" by a for-profit "health care" company. Millions of people are experiencing what you have just described. Not only do you pay your monthly premiums, but you are also responsible for paying outrageous deductibles. It's a no-win situation. I am sorry for what you are going through. It is a sad state of affairs when people are harshly penalized for seeking needed health care services. I understand why a person wouldn't want to live in a country with this type of health care system, especially during a pandemic. Stay safe.
It's so sad they put a price, such high price, to human health and well-being.
It´s time for you to fight for a Universal Health System for all US citizens. Fight and shout non-stop.
@@3indignada Es su mentalidad. Son así.
Healthcare in this country is a disgrace EVEN if you have $$$$ BIG BUSINESS that's all...so sick of the greed in this country
pero si a los estadounidenses no les gusta el socialismo no?
Esto no es socialista 😂😂😂😂😂 es un deber de un país cuidar por la salud de sus habitantes, 😅😅😅😅 no es socialista
As a Spanish American I call BS. A dogs vet visit is more than that. She went to a private clinic, probably some sports medicine. If you go to the public healthcare the first thing you show is your healthcare card. If you use the public healthcare while uninsured, you will be billed. Our public healthcare system sucks. Long waits for tests/procedures, and I mean lonnnggg waits, like years. I am currently sick and waiting for bloodwork since Nov. 29, have an appointment for the 15th and then wait until the 27th to see my primary care. 1 month to see my primary care, awesome!!!. In the USA, even on public healthcare it would only be a few days to see primary, she would draw the blood during the visit and two days later you would have results. Want more real world? My mother was diagnosed with cancer in Spain, took them 1 year to diagnose her, and it was a private clinic that found it. Our worthless public health doctors told her she didn't have any cancer. Showed the results from the private clinic to the public healthcare docs. They gave her 6 months to live and said they would not do any surgery. We went back to the USA and on her medicare had surgery, chemo etc. She later went on to have 2 more surgeries back in the USA, as unfortunately the cancer came back. She lived almost 5 years. Yeah! Spanish healthcare, a POS!
Siento lo de tu madre. ¿En qué Comunidad Autónoma pasó? Ahora mismo está todo más liado que de costumbre por el COVID-19, pero no es lo habitual.
Otra gente habla diferente. Una opinión más pero no es lo normal
@@alfredosanchezsanchez9478 Sadly normal in Galicia.
@@gundalfx Spain is not a bad choice and I am very impressed with the Quality of health care In Europe especially the High cost Equipment in Hospitals and other places.
Amen to the Proposion in 2022.
That is an inheritance from the times of Franco. the benefits are very similar to those of 40 years ago, with the addition that at that time no taxes were paid. Now we all pay very high taxes, and the system has not improved accordingly.
Deja de decir tonterías
@@sandrachao72 Si la Seguridad Social española tiene muchos años, no es de ahora
Healthcare System started before Franco´s dictatorship, in 1908!
Not true. Ernest Lluch, the socialist minister for healthcare made the system universal in the 1980s.
No fue Franco, fue el Cid campeador.🤣🤣🤣