"Think of her little sister that didn't choose any of this" Well OP didn't choose to have a cheating scumbag for a father that doesn't respect boundaries
IMHO it's a bit of a weird reaction to be THAT attached to your mother that you cut off all contact with your father for that sort of thing. It would be one thing if he abandoned her too - but by her own words SHE cut herself off from her father, so it's kinda not so cut and dry here. Overall she sounds like a child stomping her feet rather than an adult, even though she's clearly TRYING to sound like an adult it just comes off as whining. I don't blame her for wanting nothing to do with the step mom or half sister, but cutting the father off entirely just comes off as a serious overreaction. Kind of feels like she's a mommas girl wrapped 110% around her fingers - the mother doesn't need to get involved NOW over the half sister babysitting, because she already poisoned that well thoroughly years earlier. It's not at all unusual for one parent to poison their children against the other parent in a bad breakup/divorce for personal gratification or gain in the custody agreement. My own mother tried to do the same countless times to no avail after my parents broke up (neither cheated AFAIK, she's just a violently abusive person). I think in this case it has happened to the daughter, the brothers weren't living at home so they never got given the 3rd degree and still want to see their father, this tracks with the story.
@@mnomadvfx Reading this, I now completely agree. I think I find it easier to say it's fine if she does't want to see her father again bc I have a really rocky almost non-existent relationship with my dad. Honestly, thinking back on it, what he did wasn't that bad, it's more my emotions and reactions from those situations that stop me from going back to his place
@@mnomadvfxI think it's more a matter of principles. If i ever found out one of my buddies cheated on their girlfriend i'd give him the beatup of his life (we literally made a blood pact on that, it works both ways). The dad wasn't just trying to stablish a relationship with Op, he also tried to manipulate her, threatening her with removing financial support completely and when he realized it didn't work he tried to stuff her with money instead. I love my dad and love my mom, they are both divorced (not over cheating, things just weren't working out), but if the reason why they divorced was that one of them cheated on the other and i had to live with getting home and seeing either my dad or my mom suffering that deep, depressing kind of pain for weeks (maybe months), i'd also want nothing to do with the one who hurt either of them like that.
NTA, I don't blame her for not wanting to watch her dad's affair kid. Yeah she is innocent but who cares? And I figured the dad wanted OP to watch the kid and not her brothers because she's female and apparently 'wired' to look after kids. OP was right--her brothers could have easily watched the kid as well but they weren't even in the running to be considered to be asked.
What cheaters don't like to acknowledge: they don't just betray their spouse. They betray their children too. I can always roll my eyes when I hear "But they are such a good mother/father". No they are not. İf they were, they wouldn't put the kids through such turmoil
It’s funny how in the first story the brothers don’t seem to be fit to care for the affair baby but somehow OP is? The way the father is trying to get OP to interact with the affair baby is just a sign for him to be put in his place.
1st story: OP should tell off anybody guilt-tripping her about her half-sister that they are all sexists, including her dad, because her brothers are just as capable of taking care of their half-sister, yet they are all dumping it on her. 2nd story: OP was such a great friend to Caroline that she allowed her DRUNK BEST FRIEND to hookup with Daniel. With friends like her, nobody needs enemies.
They were trying to make her feel guilty, but they aren’t successful at it. She doesn’t care enough to feel guilty. I don’t blame her. The father and mistress are the AHoles.
OP isn't obligated to her Dad's family at all. He hasn't even apologized to her. He just keeps trying to use money to manipulate her. Yes, the kid is innocent but that does make OP obligated to help.
So the two adults couldn't be contacted to look after the kid because 'they aren't used to kids' But OP somehow is more used to and better equipped to handle kids? or is this a sexism thing girls/women look after children not men. The girl was more likely to know the brothers than she was OP
I agree with you okay!!the child is innocent in all this she had nothing to do with it she didn't ask to be born!!!but you didn't ask for this situation either and I can understand your feelings!now the family feels is still your heart and your mean to your dad,but for your own mental well-being if being distant from your father and his new family is good for you then that's what you should do!!
1)The older sister did not volunteer for all of this - 8620. 2) If there was a family blab & brag board, the half-assed confession was the place to post it.
In story three don’t go what he’s doing is shoving that in your face he’s not satisfy for hurting you and the people who saying you being sensitive let that happen to them. Let’s see what they will say they will have a different tone the best thing tell your husband and get his opinion the best thing tell him first before anybody tells him.
Story 1 - I would reconcile with your cheating father but make it clear that at every or random opportunities you call him and AP cheaters and horrible people. JUST A FYI
Last story: I don't think the wife exists, tbh. Sounds like the guy decided if OP won't be what he wants her to be she should pay him back the money he spend on her.
story 1...............dad is a sexist and stupid. his sons couldnt watch the kids but he expected his daughter to. the same daughter he has almost no relationship with and has clearly told him she will have no involvement with his new family on multiple occasions. dad needs to accept reality and move on and his new wife needs to shut her yap
Story 2 OP is a piece of sh*t and her sister should cut off contact. What do you mean you were stuck in the middle? There is no middle when it comes between a friend and an innocent family member. If your friend didn’t want to be embarrassed then maybe she shouldn’t have pursued an attached man, and he’s not innocent either cause he knows exactly who he slept with. ETA except for Nicola and Daniel’s girlfriend.
@@mevan883 and yet you never even asked why he cheated. Just like her you're just being a bigot. What if her mom was a sociopath? I say good for him if she was awful or didnt do anything to either keep herself attractive, just like any man has to, or she was a useless nightmare. And the daughter didnt even try. He didnt do anything directly to his daughter and she acted like a child. Many Americans dont grow up.
1st story Op YTA. Your half sister is completely innocent in all this drama and just because you hate your dad you avoid her for what. Just because you have a relationship with your half sister doesn’t mean you have to have a relationship with your father or his AP at all. You can easily separate the two.
The “your half sister is completely innocent” doesn’t work here because OP has made it clear that she wants nothing to do with the child in any circumstances, as well as not being the only option. OP has 2 older brothers who the father is seemingly closer to that he could’ve turned to, but chooses to turn to his estranged daughter because “they’re not good with kids”? OP’s brothers seem to have a few years older than her and likely had to watch her on multiple occasions. It feels more like OP’s father baited her into this than anything
IMHO the father hate felt very off for the whole story - like we missed the part where the mother took the daughter aside and started whispering poison against the dad in her ear immediately after the affair became known. Notice that the brothers were not living at home when this happened, and they are still talking to their dad? Not within easy reach to poison, not still dependent on their mother to get influenced directly. I've lived through the whole breakup/divorce where one parent tries to poison the well for the other, to me this sounds like a lot is going unsaid. I could maybe believe it more if she was much younger - but she was already an adult basically by the time the affair became known, so to me the only reason it could have happened this way was the mother, or a very bad breakup/cheating in the OP's own love life that also isn't being covered. There's just too much missing from the story to sound believable.
@@mnomadvfxFirst of all stop it with the multi paragraph response. Seconf of all the brothers still having a relationship with the dad while op doesnt is a matter of forgiving and not forgiving. The brothers forgave their dad for cheating while op didnt. See when you cheat you dont only betray your partner but also your children since you break appart the family that they loved. So in simple words the brothers forgave the dad of the betrayal while op did not
By that logic OP isn't innocent? So why do you think OP isn't innocent? Nope they both are innocent but OP but a right and duty to not watch on the iff off chance of something happens and then OP takes the blame for allowing it to happen to the baby to get revenge or subconsciously let's it happen to get revenge.
May god forbid that I ever have a daughter like the women in story one. I wouldn’t be able to believe that a person like that came from me. God please protect me!
Wth????? Her dad cheated on her!! He didn't only betray her mother but also her. He broke apart his family. The moment he decided to cheat was the moment when he decided to give up on his family. Now he wants to push his half sister on her. Wth?? Not only is OP is hurt by her trash father's actions but also getting forced to look after her affair sister. She doesn't owe them shit. It's her life. If she wants to keep a distance from her cheating awful father and the family he left her for then she has the full right. These type of father deserve the worst punishment
@@YourGirl2628 Classic single brained organisms, can’t go a second without resorting to insults 😂. It’s so entertaining to see the dumbass conclusions you can jump to. Definitely a liberal 🤡
"Think of her little sister that didn't choose any of this"
Well OP didn't choose to have a cheating scumbag for a father that doesn't respect boundaries
IMHO it's a bit of a weird reaction to be THAT attached to your mother that you cut off all contact with your father for that sort of thing.
It would be one thing if he abandoned her too - but by her own words SHE cut herself off from her father, so it's kinda not so cut and dry here.
Overall she sounds like a child stomping her feet rather than an adult, even though she's clearly TRYING to sound like an adult it just comes off as whining.
I don't blame her for wanting nothing to do with the step mom or half sister, but cutting the father off entirely just comes off as a serious overreaction.
Kind of feels like she's a mommas girl wrapped 110% around her fingers - the mother doesn't need to get involved NOW over the half sister babysitting, because she already poisoned that well thoroughly years earlier.
It's not at all unusual for one parent to poison their children against the other parent in a bad breakup/divorce for personal gratification or gain in the custody agreement.
My own mother tried to do the same countless times to no avail after my parents broke up (neither cheated AFAIK, she's just a violently abusive person).
I think in this case it has happened to the daughter, the brothers weren't living at home so they never got given the 3rd degree and still want to see their father, this tracks with the story.
@@mnomadvfx Reading this, I now completely agree. I think I find it easier to say it's fine if she does't want to see her father again bc I have a really rocky almost non-existent relationship with my dad.
Honestly, thinking back on it, what he did wasn't that bad, it's more my emotions and reactions from those situations that stop me from going back to his place
@@mnomadvfxhe didn’t just betray his wife he betrayed his children. If she doesn’t want to associate with him cause he cheated that’s her business
@@mnomadvfxI think it's more a matter of principles. If i ever found out one of my buddies cheated on their girlfriend i'd give him the beatup of his life (we literally made a blood pact on that, it works both ways). The dad wasn't just trying to stablish a relationship with Op, he also tried to manipulate her, threatening her with removing financial support completely and when he realized it didn't work he tried to stuff her with money instead.
I love my dad and love my mom, they are both divorced (not over cheating, things just weren't working out), but if the reason why they divorced was that one of them cheated on the other and i had to live with getting home and seeing either my dad or my mom suffering that deep, depressing kind of pain for weeks (maybe months), i'd also want nothing to do with the one who hurt either of them like that.
NTA, I don't blame her for not wanting to watch her dad's affair kid. Yeah she is innocent but who cares? And I figured the dad wanted OP to watch the kid and not her brothers because she's female and apparently 'wired' to look after kids. OP was right--her brothers could have easily watched the kid as well but they weren't even in the running to be considered to be asked.
The brothers would have made more sense. They have hung out with Dad and his family. So they know the kid. The kid knows them as well.
What cheaters don't like to acknowledge: they don't just betray their spouse. They betray their children too. I can always roll my eyes when I hear "But they are such a good mother/father". No they are not. İf they were, they wouldn't put the kids through such turmoil
It’s funny how in the first story the brothers don’t seem to be fit to care for the affair baby but somehow OP is? The way the father is trying to get OP to interact with the affair baby is just a sign for him to be put in his place.
It could also be that the dad is closet sexist
1st story: OP should tell off anybody guilt-tripping her about her half-sister that they are all sexists, including her dad, because her brothers are just as capable of taking care of their half-sister, yet they are all dumping it on her. 2nd story: OP was such a great friend to Caroline that she allowed her DRUNK BEST FRIEND to hookup with Daniel. With friends like her, nobody needs enemies.
They were trying to make her feel guilty, but they aren’t successful at it. She doesn’t care enough to feel guilty. I don’t blame her. The father and mistress are the AHoles.
OP isn't obligated to her Dad's family at all. He hasn't even apologized to her. He just keeps trying to use money to manipulate her. Yes, the kid is innocent but that does make OP obligated to help.
So the two adults couldn't be contacted to look after the kid because 'they aren't used to kids' But OP somehow is more used to and better equipped to handle kids? or is this a sexism thing girls/women look after children not men. The girl was more likely to know the brothers than she was OP
1sr story, NTA, the dad just reaping what he sowed.
I agree with you okay!!the child is innocent in all this she had nothing to do with it she didn't ask to be born!!!but you didn't ask for this situation either and I can understand your feelings!now the family feels is still your heart and your mean to your dad,but for your own mental well-being if being distant from your father and his new family is good for you then that's what you should do!!
1)The older sister did not volunteer for all of this - 8620.
2) If there was a family blab & brag board, the half-assed confession was the place to post it.
what is 8620 ? I tried googling it and in the end I found out that there are angel numbers and what my is 😆😆
Story 3: I wouldn’t go. I mean….why would I?
I'd tell family to f. off, that is just cruel to even imply ...
In story three don’t go what he’s doing is shoving that in your face he’s not satisfy for hurting you and the people who saying you being sensitive let that happen to them. Let’s see what they will say they will have a different tone the best thing tell your husband and get his opinion the best thing tell him first before anybody tells him.
Story 1 - I would reconcile with your cheating father but make it clear that at every or random opportunities you call him and AP cheaters and horrible people. JUST A FYI
Last story, even if the husband stole the money to pay for things to the girlfriend, law states it's not her responsibility to return it, it's his.
Common sense backs up the laws.
NTA look like they want a free baby sitter
Last story: I don't think the wife exists, tbh. Sounds like the guy decided if OP won't be what he wants her to be she should pay him back the money he spend on her.
Story 2 op is not a good sister she chose her friend over here sister that's a crappy person.
Is there any reason why comments keep getting deleted?
the op in story 2 is complett trash ...................................
story 1...............dad is a sexist and stupid. his sons couldnt watch the kids but he expected his daughter to. the same daughter he has almost no relationship with and has clearly told him she will have no involvement with his new family on multiple occasions. dad needs to accept reality and move on and his new wife needs to shut her yap
Story 2 OP is a piece of sh*t and her sister should cut off contact. What do you mean you were stuck in the middle? There is no middle when it comes between a friend and an innocent family member. If your friend didn’t want to be embarrassed then maybe she shouldn’t have pursued an attached man, and he’s not innocent either cause he knows exactly who he slept with. ETA except for Nicola and Daniel’s girlfriend.
The girl in the first story is really immature.
She never even tried to understand her dads point of view. You are a bad daughter.
Cheating is wrong and she wants nothing to do with the aftermath. I stand with her, just like I would stand with a husband who's wife cheated on him.
@@mevan883 and yet you never even asked why he cheated. Just like her you're just being a bigot. What if her mom was a sociopath? I say good for him if she was awful or didnt do anything to either keep herself attractive, just like any man has to, or she was a useless nightmare. And the daughter didnt even try. He didnt do anything directly to his daughter and she acted like a child. Many Americans dont grow up.
1st story Op YTA. Your half sister is completely innocent in all this drama and just because you hate your dad you avoid her for what. Just because you have a relationship with your half sister doesn’t mean you have to have a relationship with your father or his AP at all. You can easily separate the two.
The “your half sister is completely innocent” doesn’t work here because OP has made it clear that she wants nothing to do with the child in any circumstances, as well as not being the only option. OP has 2 older brothers who the father is seemingly closer to that he could’ve turned to, but chooses to turn to his estranged daughter because “they’re not good with kids”? OP’s brothers seem to have a few years older than her and likely had to watch her on multiple occasions. It feels more like OP’s father baited her into this than anything
IMHO the father hate felt very off for the whole story - like we missed the part where the mother took the daughter aside and started whispering poison against the dad in her ear immediately after the affair became known.
Notice that the brothers were not living at home when this happened, and they are still talking to their dad?
Not within easy reach to poison, not still dependent on their mother to get influenced directly.
I've lived through the whole breakup/divorce where one parent tries to poison the well for the other, to me this sounds like a lot is going unsaid.
I could maybe believe it more if she was much younger - but she was already an adult basically by the time the affair became known, so to me the only reason it could have happened this way was the mother, or a very bad breakup/cheating in the OP's own love life that also isn't being covered.
There's just too much missing from the story to sound believable.
@@mnomadvfxFirst of all stop it with the multi paragraph response. Seconf of all the brothers still having a relationship with the dad while op doesnt is a matter of forgiving and not forgiving. The brothers forgave their dad for cheating while op didnt. See when you cheat you dont only betray your partner but also your children since you break appart the family that they loved. So in simple words the brothers forgave the dad of the betrayal while op did not
Actually it's up to her. She isn't their slave neither owe them any thing
By that logic OP isn't innocent? So why do you think OP isn't innocent? Nope they both are innocent but OP but a right and duty to not watch on the iff off chance of something happens and then OP takes the blame for allowing it to happen to the baby to get revenge or subconsciously let's it happen to get revenge.
May god forbid that I ever have a daughter like the women in story one. I wouldn’t be able to believe that a person like that came from me. God please protect me!
Wth????? Her dad cheated on her!! He didn't only betray her mother but also her. He broke apart his family. The moment he decided to cheat was the moment when he decided to give up on his family. Now he wants to push his half sister on her. Wth?? Not only is OP is hurt by her trash father's actions but also getting forced to look after her affair sister. She doesn't owe them shit. It's her life. If she wants to keep a distance from her cheating awful father and the family he left her for then she has the full right. These type of father deserve the worst punishment
@@YourGirl2628 You are definitely like Op in story one. Poor thing.
@@JasonJafry then you must be like the cheater father. 🤡✌️. I hope your partner finds someone better than you. That is if you have a partner
@@YourGirl2628 Classic single brained organisms, can’t go a second without resorting to insults 😂. It’s so entertaining to see the dumbass conclusions you can jump to. Definitely a liberal 🤡
You should pray to God you don’t have a husband like her father. Why should a daughter pay for the sins of her father. It’s not the Stone Age anymore.