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I went to an all girls school, and always found the dress code so stupid, cause their excuse was the male faculty, and I always thought "why'd you even hire them if you think so little of them?"
Exactly like so you're openly implying that the male staff you hired could be a pdf file? That's what you're making it sound like teacher.
But of course, then they would try to backpedal as hard as they could about their own implications.
a guy could be practically shirtless at our school and not get dress coded but gosh forbid a girl shows a shoulder
My school, bizarrely, was the opposite of basically every other school in the country lol. Guys had to be in full-on blazer and tie every day, which was strictly enforced, while I had my girl classmates sometimes come to class in sweatpants. I was sent to change because I forgot a belt, my best friend at the time, a girl, came to school in a hoodie with no consequences. It was kinda fascinating.
It's always the freaking shoulders!
For real though- the teachers literally said shoulders turn the boys on- HOW DOES A SHOULDER TURN BOYS ON????
@@D1G1TAL-N30 They always think everyone thinks like them
Yeah in PE or recess guys can play b-ball "skins vs shirts" without a second thought but if chicks do that...
Dress codes are so stupid, specially because those are ADULTS saying those type of things to CHILDREN
There for a reason I hate to tell you I'm glad there around still
@@HEALTHNFITNESSWITCHFREAKThere is no reason for a dress code, unless there is something like explicitly vulgar or sexual. Most if not all of these stories are of people abusing dress codes that do not help anyone, and are just used to sexualize kids.
Only reasonable dress codes are ones that are for safety tbh. So many dress codes are just ADULT teachers sexualizing literal children. Especially a lot of stories towards female children. @@HEALTHNFITNESSWITCHFREAK
@OfficerZ637nobody cares
@OfficerZ637keep crying about it
20:34 "these teenage girls" The story says that they were in 6th grade. In the American school system (what I'm assuming this story's from), 6th grade is equivalent to 11-12 years old. To say that they are teenagers is a stretch; I'd call them children! And for this substitute to humiliate pubescent children like this sounds like a power trip or a disgusting fantasy- or a repulsive combination of the two.
Yup! You got it. I am from the US and was 11 in the 6th grade, and my gods the amount of dress code bullshit was astonishing. Luckily my specific school has changed their codes since I went due to student protests.
@@ErutaniaRose I'm sorry you had to struggle through that. I hope someone spoke up about it and he was never able to substitute for children again.
Not sure which of my things you are replying to?? But luckily I never had that kind stuff happen from a teacher. I was just saying you were right about the ages.
I was lucky that my male teachers were usually the ones calling out the boys--bar the ones everyone knew were creepy and avoided. @@catboybands
@@ErutaniaRose oh. i thought you were the one who wrote the story to Kiwi! No problem though! I’m glad you didn’t have to struggle through that ^^
Ah, well thanks! If I was I'm sure that would have been great to hear. I didn't find out how to send a story to kiwi till today, and sent one, lol. Luckily mine is not nearly as bad or as triggering. I hope whoever went through that has the support they need. @@catboybands
My 17yo daughter, unlike myself, has large breasts. The harassment she received from people was disgusting. So many dress code violations for normal ass clothes. This, her social anxiety, ADHD, and because she's gay, made us decide she should do online school. She does better in some ways; not in others. No school program is perfect but at least she's not harassed at school.
That's awful, I'm so sorry she was treated that way. No one should be treated like that no matter their orientation/sexuality/gender or ableness
Poor girl, hope she's doing better, at least mentally, now
and staff will blame her for the abuse she gets. Biggest bullies in school are members of staff.
Screw you guys, I'ma gonna be homeskewed! :D
I led a mutiny my senior year over Old Navy ribbed tanks of the early 2000s. My at the time DDs were considered inappropriate so the rest of the gals not flagged with smaller chests joined me in protest in principal's office. my mom asked why the principal and teacher were staring at my boobs and feeling uncomfortable.
That's so good. Mine were never quite that big, but as someone with a bigger chest it was so unfair. I'd get harrassed by teachers for wearing a t-shirt, a loose one at that.
Best memory I have tho is when in middle school I bent down to get something, some male student decided to slap my ass, and the male teacher CHEWED HIM OUT in front of the ENTIRE class. Dude never did jack shit again.
From that Texas Cheerleading Scandal movie: You lookin' at her boobs? You pervert!
The thing about dress codes and sending kids (usually girls) for dressing "immodestly"..... It says A LOT more about the teachers policing the bodies of minors than it does the kids themselves.
Bro I have never met someone younger than like 17 be even remotely interested in how a persons body looks (besides bullies who have other issues going on). Lit the only people who’ve ever cared are the faculty. And that’s disturbing af
god the first story reminds me of when i was in 6th grade and my gym teacher pulled me into her office and told me that i needed to start wearing a bra cuz i was "more developed" than my peers. i had precocious puberty growing up and was extremely insecure about the size of my boobs and this moment was just the nail in the coffin for me. creepy af
I’m sorry that happened to you. That was not okay for your teacher to tell you that. I hope you’ve (at least somewhat) healed from your trauma.
I was actually excited about wearing bras big time I was even more excited about shopping for them
That shit SUCKS. It's so humiliating, objectifying, and dehumanizing. I know I felt like a fucking piece of meat in that moment because bras had always been uncomfortable sensory wise for me.
I can't actually fault the teacher here since I'd feel protective over my students (hypothetically) if I were one considering I'm protective over my nieces. I'm a survivor of SA, and yea, I can imagine giving this advice to a student just to protect them from the lecherous gazes of pedophiles 😤 maybe the way she said it was seriously messed up, idk because I wasn't there, but hopefully this helps you. Maybe they were feeling overprotective because this world is sick asf. Ik for a fact I'd be apologizing over and over and making sure the student knew I was trying to make sure they're okay because not everyone has a safe home situation or maybe their parent can't even afford to get them a bra because there's a problem with child poverty already!😱
@@HEALTHNFITNESSWITCHFREAK For me, being trans, middle school and high school were the most traumatic times for me. I remember only wearing sports bras without the cups in them. And my mom used to get mad at me when I wore them to formal events.
When I was in 9th grade, my school completely banned headphones, even during breaks and independent work time. Previously, most teachers would let us listen to music while we did our work.
I’m autistic (hadn’t been diagnosed yet) and needed music in order to focus, and to block out unwanted noises. Not being allowed to caused an increase in panic attacks, and a decrease in my academic performance.
Ultimately, I had to get a note from my therapist saying that music is needed for me, and we had to get a special plan set in place with my school in order for me to get to listen to music in class. Also, they wouldn’t let me listen to music from any device that would let me take phone calls or text. So my parents ended up buying me an mp3 player just so I could do my schoolwork.
They ended up getting rid of this rule the next year.
I had a "special education study hall" teacher who insisted on us students using chalk & an old fashioned chalkboard, and very heavily enforced the "no iPods" rule.
Needless to say, I don't know a single person who was in her class who remembers her fondly. Every day was a sensory nightmare
@@KiboSantiwtf was she trying to pretend she was an old timey school marm? The power trip some of these teachers go on
I have both misophonia to the point that I have to have my own room and complete deafness in my right ear. AirPod Pros have accessibility settings that allow you to manually adjust the noise of your surroundings to do things like block out noise and boost the volume of people right in front of you. Plus, music acts as good white noise for me. They've been godsends since I invested in them. Thankfully, the department that handles disability accommodations at my college is cool and I simply had to request that it be an official accommodation for them to approve it. Also, my workplace was recently made to ban headphones altogether, and even though I've offered to prove that I'm using them as a medical device because I know how ridiculous that sounds and they're just like "nah it's cool."
I hate dress codes, and I hated wearing a uniform. Also why is it so common for schools to have no unnatural hair colour rules. I got told off for having red hair once, and I’m like people DO have red hair… admittedly probably not often in the shade of red I had, but still.
@OfficerZ637waa waa
Yeah, it’s especially stupid because dying your hair is like, one of the most quintessential teenage experiences. Like if you watch a show about teenagers, nine times out of 10. There’s gonna be at least one with brightly colored hair, and quite often it’s either part of their identity or an exploration of it. So they’re basically banning self-expression and self discovery.
Because the point is indoctrinating teens for the workforce. Jobs that require uniforms or dress codes. Very few jobs DONT have a uniform or dress code.
@@tuffy135ifynone of my jobs have EVER been so sexist though or have such double standards 🤔 it’s not teaching children about the “real world” it’s just teaching them to hate their bodies. Like they don’t already have enough mental issues going on
My school did that but it was a Christian school so my guess is because it would be changing your god-given hair color or something lol also we were not allowed to paint our nails black because it looked demonic
I hate dress codes
Preach
The best dress code : Cover your private parts and wear shoes. Otherwise, whatever.
Real
There for a reason I hate to tell you
Bruh @@HEALTHNFITNESSWITCHFREAK
To say half of these things to children is grotesque. I hope these people get the WORST karma.
Karma does not exist it's only invented as a scare tactic
@@HEALTHNFITNESSWITCHFREAK lol
Mm I would say more than half
@@cloudyskyz2237 Yeah typed this out before I finished the video it only got, worse
Dress codes have always been so stupid- they're always so sexist also.. How do none of these grown adults realize how messed up that is to enforce on our children and young adults? It's all so icky
Didn’t happen to me, but one of my friends on my school’s girls lacrosse team got DRESS CODED for wearing the SCHOOL’S lacrosse uniform TO SCHOOL bc we had a game the same day. (It’s a tank top and a really short skort- when a bunch of the other teams we play against get to wear shorts.) Like why supply it if you don’t even want us to wear it?? The sheer hypocrisy is so funny.😭😭
THE SAME EXACT SHIT HAPPENED AT MY SCHOOL
you hit the nail on the head about people who go through puberty early/are more endowed being policed for their bodies. I started menses at 9; I was very shapely at a young age and my body was constantly being inappropriately sexualized by older people (as well as those my age) and judged by my adult teachers. It was hard even finding a style for myself when I was young because I went from "cover my body as much as possible" (heyyy Dysphoria, I didn't know that was you!) to dressing more to my body shape and being told that I was "seeking attention" (which is the polite catholic school way of saying "being a slut about it" because my shirt fit me and had a teardrop keyhole in the neckline). It's horrifying feeling like "just one of the other kids" and then being singled out by the sexual attention that an adult is applying to your body. I was once stopped walking home by a truck full of college kids who followed me for a while making cat calls.... I put on a brave face but that was terrifying, honestly. I didn't even recognize them- it's terrifying not recognizing someone in a small town, and those people having you singled out on an empty road.
honestly feels great to not wear a bra anymore and to have this freedom to breathe without always feeling like my breasts are so noticeable. Fingers crossed for top surgery in the near future!
for the record: it makes sense to me that I didn't deal with my gender until my thirties, because I had to first overcome the internalized shame and misogyny that surrounded my body.... before I could even understand how -I- felt about my body. But the realization came when I was like "my body is a beautiful body, I like other people with similar bodies; why do I hate it?!" and then it was like oh...duh... because it's not MINE. It doesn't feel like the right one for me, and it doesn't feel like something I've ever had control of.
It's amazing how much better life can be when you look in the mirror and see yourself.
I hope you soon feel more at home in your own skin. Sending all the virtual hugs you like to take! 🫂
Hope you get top surgery soon! Good luck :)
I transitioned at 12 but I have a couple instances of being harassed for my clothing before then, which is horrible to dwell on. I still vividly remember I wore a shirt with spaghetti straps on a hot ass day in THIRD GRADE and I was forced to wear a hoodie the whole day. I felt so much shame and indignation over what I knew was bullshit, but i couldn't do anything. It was the reasoning that made me the most upset. "It'll distract others" well you know who was distracted wearing a hoodie and overheating all day? It was me. So I guess kid me, who loved to learn, didn't deserve an education that day as much as the other kids did.
(Tank tops were allowed, the straps just had to be the width of three fingers which makes zero sense to me, and makes me think it's more sexualized than if it was a no tank tops thing.)
Odjdbsdndb I distinctly remember teachers (all women) getting mad at girls with their bra straps showing and compared it to if your underwear was visible, which is fucking wild. We only had one male teacher in our elementary, and he was cool as hell. I was mostly friends with other boys, and I can tell you all of us were much more interested in picking up worms than whatever the hell our peers are wearing. So I really feel the enforcement I saw came from women projecting their own internalized misogyny onto kids who could care less
I actually have a reverse sexism story. I’m a guy, and bisexual. I am not really particularly feminine but sometimes I wear crop tops. I was wearing a cropped hoodie one day and I was the one who got in trouble, where the girls next to me in bralettes got no reprimand at all.
That’s not fair at all. I’m also a bi guy who occasionally wears crop tops (though I’m trans, and I don’t pass, so a lot of people still mistake me for a girl). I’m glad I was never dress coded in school.
I had a similar experience, except not regarding clothing. I am a cis guy and went to a catholic school and was hounded incessantly because I have long hair. They never straight up forced me to cut it, but I was constantly being told that it was inappropriate for a boy to have long hair. I got written up multiple times because of it and my principal called my parents and asked them to convince me to cut it.
did they never see Jesus
@@SarastistheSerpent That’s f*cked. Dudes with long hair are awesome. They probably thought it was rebellious or something, because a lot of rockers had long hair.
@@Reed5016yeah that’s the impression I got. They basically said that it was “unbecoming” of a young man to have long hair. They had extremely strict rules about how students presented even outside of school. Like we weren’t allowed to take off our blazers while out of school or change out of our dress shoes out of school while in uniform because it would “reflect badly on the school”.
I can only imagine the fit the school faculty would’ve thrown if any of the boys displayed any kind of gender non-conforming attributes. There’d be hell to pay. The school was partly administrated by friars so it was quite strict and very, very Catholic lol.
reminded me of the "no spaghetti-strap (bra/tank tops) visible on shoulders" rule that was so strictly enforced in my elementary school from grades 4-5 (8-ish to 10 years old)
(includes wearing a t-shirt or long-sleeved shirt if your brastrap or tanktop happened to be visible near your neck. insane.)
same situation here, my county had a ban on dress coding kids in 3rd grade and below. when i hit 4th grade i wore a romper that was long enough but had spaghetti straps. my bra wasn't even visible but i got dress coded for it when i was 9 and someone else was literally wearing a tank top 😭 like huhh
Now see, if a teacher told you NICELY, okay that's fine, but being mean to you about it isn't. Especially like pulling you out of class that kind of thing, no
@@hannahhester8376 its ridiculous either way
I warn a sleeveless, and non of the teachers had a problem with it. A single MALE teacher had a problem with it, and I got dress coded.
The first story reminded me of when I was in 6th grade and my adviser pulled me out of class and made to wear a bigger shirt because I wasn't wearing a bra. I don't remember all of what happened, but I remember being pulled into a office and my adviser telling me I wasn't in trouble but still feeling like I was. My mom was pretty mad about that, and emailed my adviser and she did apologize.
That school did other shitty things towards me but that's the only dress cord one I can think of.
A few years ago, I read an article that the school made about how the dress codes were unfair for girls. They would consider short skirts to be inappropriate amongst other things. Also, adorable braided pigtails and earrings.
my middle school tried to ban bandannas at one point because it "encouraged gang activity", but in the dress code they misspelled it as bananas, so one of my friends who had a locker by the front door of the school put up a sign on their locker that had a big anti banana sign over it and a full paragraph about how any student found wearing a banana will be seriously punished.
I went to a catholic school from ages PreK-8th Grade and they had a harsh dress code, especially for girls. They monitored everything from how ironed your shirt was to how your skirt fell at your knees. The worst part about it was that the place where I lived had really hard winters, but they would make us walk 5 blocks to go to church every Friday. The girls had to wear skirts, even when it was freezing. The most we could put under were pantyhose.
I also went to a cath school for my smaller years, annoyed a lot of the teachers because I wore the "sports" uniform as my all day uniform (it was the same for both boys and girls). I got sent home a lot for uniform violations, not wearing the dress, undershirt, stockings (pantyhose), very specific shoes, or my tie, (oh and for having short hair). Instead wearing the sport shirt and shorts/pants with my boots.
One year there (of the 3) I only attended 90 days of school because they kept sending me home. Great focus on education guys.
I went to one for two years and thankfully we weren’t forced to wear skirts. I had one but tried to avoid it in favor of pants and a polo shirt. I mean…I liked the skirt…on other girls. Not for my non-binary ass 😂
When I was in middle school one of the athletics coaches made every girl in athletics stand up and if their shorts weren’t fingertip length she pulled them to the front the proceeded to tell them they were asking to get assaulted and they were horrible people just because of their shorts
What an abusive a55!
Wow..great stuff to teach kids lol
My schools cheer leading uniforms are litterally so short and tight that theyre NOT ALLOWED to wear them IN SCHOOL
Double standards much I recon lol, allowed for sports of course.
@@user-mc4rm8ot8x theyre required to wear these uniforms for competitions or games
It’s even more infuriating how the schools like to blame the boys for their sexism, like nobody was looking at her skirt until you said something.
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i remember wearing a yarmulke once around the high holidays and i went about six hours of the day wearing it until one of my last classes when my history teacher told me to take it off because hats were against uniform. he said it to me almost like he was exasperated he even had to say it and i was trying to get away with something sneaky. around christmas that same year, a kid wore a santa hat to that class and the same teacher told him he loved it and said it was so festive. another kid who was his friend (and also black) was also wearing one of these hats and teacher told him “well we only need one santa” 🤨
this same male teacher was always CONSTANTLY dress-coding girls. hated this dude
That’s so f*cked. Especially considering that it’s your right of religion to wear that. I would’ve sued, if I was in that position.
Wow that’s a ridiculous double standard
I have so many dress code stories 🙄
I was taller with long limbs, and developed (afab) early. There were so many times I got dress coded for wearing something "inappropriate," even though what I wore was always within the requirements (it happened enough that I made damn sure before I showed up to school). They wouldn't let me call my parents to bring me a change, even though we lived 5 minutes away. The replacements they made us change into were for adult men, and it seemed purposely humiliating.
I once once dresscoded for wearing a sleeveless dress during picture day because I was “distracting” people. I was 10.
Man I totally forgot to send in my story. It’s here if anyone is still interested lmao
Just that as you might guess, it’s very much directed at fem presenting folks, afab people, and certain body types. I’m plus sized. Anything on me that was considered appropriate for others would be considered inappropriate on me simply because it fits me different. We had a weird rule about how short our shorts could be, too. And no straps. Even tank tops were a no for the most part. However, amab people could literally walk the halls shirtless. I wish I was joking. It made me so mad. And the principal would literally talk to these guys in the halls while they were shirtless, but if he saw an afab person wearing something "too short" or revealing, he’d send them to the counselor or nurse to get a change of clothes, if not just flat out send them home.
And the principal who allowed all this stuff also banned Halloween in a weird way. The no mask and no gore rule makes sense, but no. He wouldn’t let us wear costume at ALL. Even fun makeup wasn’t allowed (as in drawing spiderweb eyeliner was not allowed either). One girl who literally just did Halloween-themed makeup got sent home for it even though it wasn’t anything bad. It was literally just orange, green, black, and purple makeup with some fun eyeliner??? Also, I was a cosplay kid. I did wear cosplay to school sometimes (it wasn’t like full cosplay or anything, just more inspired by characters than anything, like I’d wear their hats or do my makeup inspired by them). Like any other day, I was allowed to do that, because everyone just kinda knew it’s something I liked to do. But the one day of the year it’s normally acceptable to wear something like that, I got in trouble. It was wild. Even though my college classes were having a costume contest, which the high school used to do before, too, before we got this new principal. My college classes off campus were literally right after the first period, so I didn’t see a problem with wearing my costume to school for one hour. No, apparently those of us participating in the contest were meant to get changed at the career center, I guess. He claimed that we had just had spirit week and shouldn’t need to wear anything fun that day because of it. Even though the spirit week prompts didn’t really allow us to wear what we wanted. Because they were prompts. None of which involved actual Halloween stuff. Idk it was really weird.
It was also weirdly acceptable for other students to point out things and not get in trouble. One kid actually said something about me not wearing a bra (they make me dysphoric and uncomfortable) to my friend and got her to say something to me about it. I don’t blame her in the slightest, as it’s not her fault, but it still hurt my feelings. Like why was it that kid’s business? Why was he looking at me anyway?? I sat in front of them, so I don’t even know how he noticed. The school also tried to ban colorful hair one time (it ended up not happening while I was there - I graduated with blue hair haha) and DID ban colorful contacts because they were "too distracting." If you’re staring at someone’s eyes all of class, that’s on you, I think, but whatever.
The one good thing is they let us wear hats in high school. I wore a beanie almost every day and it made me feel so happy. Idk why, but beanies were really affirming to my non-gender back then.
My old school had some outrageous hoodie dress code rules (that especially affected closeted transmasc people) so an entire third of the school decided to wear a hoodie with nothing underneath so the teachers couldn't tell them to take it off until the rules were removed. It went for three months, and eventually we did get them removed lmao (I think the reason kids weren't just sent home is bc its a poorly funded public school in 'merica and the teachers couldn't be bothered.)
I used to go to an all girls school with a uniform, it was so stupid. The rule was if you forgot a piece of your uniform 3 times, you got detention. One of the things that could get you a strike was not wearing a ribbon in your hair.
Not to mention how closed minded the school board was when it came to any kind of change. There was a petition made to have the pants uniform changed (the main uniform was a really uncomfortable dress and after a lot of trying we finally got the option for pants, but they designed it so it didn’t really fit most body types) and it was shut down immediately. When another petition was made to get a shirt and skirt uniform for the summer (because it reaches almost 40 degrees celsius where I live in summer) but nope, it wasn’t ‘traditional’ enough.
Sometimes I'm glad my schools just gave us a uniform. White top, black pants or shorts, school jumper, black jacket and although skirts were an option no-one ever wore them after 10yrs old. Simple, versatile, and with enough wiggle room to show individuality and cheap to buy.
Based school with uniform
Ehh, I had a uniform and hated it, but I guess it is a bit better. We also had a dress code about skirt length, it was... Eh.
i got the same in my old ukranian school 😭😊😊
When I was in High School there was an incident in my English class where this girl got dress coded despite her clearly not violating the dress code. She was wearing a long sleeve turtleneck top (full body coverage) and it wasn't even super tight but it flattered her body. The teacher sent the girl to the office as soon as they saw her top. The class asked why and the teacher said that the girl's outfit would distract the boys and make the male staff uncomfortable. Everyone in class was very confused. The women in the office agreed with the teacher and made the girl wear an oversized shirt over her turtleneck.
Later that day the same girl got in trouble for dress code again because she tightened the baggy shirt with a scrunchy. The shirt was so big that it came down to her knees and she wanted to make it more comfortable. The top of the shirt was still baggy but tightening up the shirt made it more flattering. She didn't get in trouble for anything other than trying to flatter her body a little. She got suspended and her mom sued the school district. Not sure what became of it other than she transfered schools by the end of the month.
I’ve been out of high school for four years now and I almost forgot how how infuriating these things are. Its so weird how frequently people are not given the opportunity to “fix” their outfits, it just proves that those rules don’t have real merit. It also doesn’t teach kids anything about the real world! At my job if I forget my company vest at home guess what? they let me borrow one!
15:23 spirit week is optional and you do not have to be on campus during the homecoming game unless you were directly involved lol
What the actual fuck is that last story. Everywhere I’ve gone to school with a dress code or a uniform has a lost and found and/or a donation stock of clothes that they will allow dress-coded students to use. I hope that school was sued to hell and all the administrators were evaluated.
Yeah I participated in Spirit Week because it was fun, but I literally never attended a school game and constantly forgot they even existed
They tried to tell us that the pep rally was mandatory, but the teachers didn't give a shit about chasing people, so if you made it out of the building you could leave with no issue.
@@Mir_Teiwaz the senior section was almost always empty for those pep rallies
Spirit weeks are the one thing I miss about high school.
It was like a week of mini comic-cons. Everyone at my school loved them.
When I was going to high school, the school had a (mostly) unofficial dress code, and finding out what it restricted for incoming students was wild. Case in point: shorts. Where I was at the time (Colorado), summers pretty much demanded airflow in buildings. And my high school had all these wonderful windows, the kind where you could practically see the entire slice of world outside, with simple turn-crank panels to allow more air? Hold on that thought for a moment.
Summer arrived, and with it shorts, and the school administration FREAKED. OUT. Why? Because girls wearing shorts--exposing mid-thighs to ankles--would cause SA. Yes, "cause". Wha?
While we were dealing with THAT revelation, we figured--okay, if the teachers are going to send us to detention for trying to stay cool, do we have permission to open the windows, at least? No, and the why's even stranger: when the building was being constructed, it was heavily dependent on those windows to keep the interior cool, only--a budgetary deficit saw every single window welded shut, so they could never...be...opened.
No female student could wear shorts that were shorter than capri length, and could only wear skirts/dresses that covered the knees. (With the heavy implication that it would be our fault if we were SA'ed.)
SO many girls would literally pass out during class from heatstroke, and after enough of them had been sent home, the parent-teacher association held a town meeting to address the issue. The smart parents were saying that this wasn't fair--with no air conditioning system, and no air cooling, how were the girls supposed to stay cool enough to function? Most of the teachers are the less smart parents yelled back Bible quotes about Jezebel and harlots. Just surreal.
I don't know if that ruling has been fixed since I graduated--but what I do know is my four years of high school, and the junior and senior students in the two years above mine, struggled with this same ruling. Just baffling.
Ugh I'm so glad my high school is reasonable. In summer a bunch of my female and fem presenting friends wear crop tops and shit cause it's hot, right?? And the teachers aren't creepy-weird about it. Plus a good 70% of the students there are alternative/scene/emo/punk or queer/neurodivergent lol it's great
As someone who's dress code was basically non existent (just don't come in in your underwear and you're fine) hearing stories of how restrictive other schools could be always blew my mind.
@@tevenpowell8023 yeah I agree like...wtf some schools out there really think BARE GIRL SHOULDERS are going to turn someone on smh
I remember in 11th grade the vice principal looked past a girl wearing a short skirt (skirts were to be three inches above the knee at most, and hers didn't cover her ass when she bent over) to tell me to tuck in... my sweatshirt. The same man would also enjoy the attention all the girls would give them and would pat them on the lower back. Creepy af.
My best friend in 12th grade got reprimanded for wearing a skirt maybe 3.5 inches above her knee while she sat next to a girl who was wearing daisy duke shorts. I only ever saw girls of larger sizes getting in trouble over dresscode, while skinnier girls could pretty much wear whatever they want. Of course it's not the other girls fault, but it really upset me to get in trouble for not having a tucked in sweatshirt (which... aren't made to be tucked in and it wasn't against the rules to wear an untucked sweatshirt) while another girl closer to him got a free pass on wearing something too short.
I'm from a country (Finland) where the dresscode (if there ever was one) was just about cleanliness/common sense/politeness "don't wear outdoor clothes indoors/in class" think winterboots, -coats, -hats etc. Would bring dirt indoors from outside.
Most people I ever remember getting dresscoded were preteen boys trying to wear their hats indoors (seen as rude) (Religious headwear was totally different case ofcourse.)
I used to get discriminated against nearly daily from 7th to 12th grade because I have macromastia, so yeah the “She has something you don’t” story was extremely relatable unfortunately.
The only time I ever witnessed someone getting dress coded was when I was 15 and a girl in my geometry class wore jeans with holes on the front high along her thighs (deliberate fashion choice, not that they'd torn) and our male teacher thought she was exposing too much leg. She was forced to go to the principal's office and came back to class wearing sweat pants. It was springtime in Texas, so imho, this was akin to torture.
As a man, I have also always felt some type of way about dress codes and uniforms in general. I'm very insecure about my appearance so dressing a certain way always made me feel more comfortable with myself, but that got me dress coded a lot as a teen
the US is wild, it really does feel like tv sometimes. Like seeing a yellow schoolbus for the first time felt unreal, also weird to see an entire garage full of them
As an American it's always fun to hear folks talk about school busses lol
My school growing up had uniforms, but sometimes we could get out of uniform passes. When my sister was in seventh grade, she was out of uniform and wearing a skirt that wasn’t any shorter than her uniform skirt. The only male teacher on staff gave her a detention for her skirt length because it made him “uncomfortable.” A week or two later another girl wore the same skirt and didn’t get in trouble. That male teacher hated my mom (who also taught at the school) so he took any chance he could to bully my sister and me. We tried to get him fired but the principal told me unless he sexually assaulted a student, they couldn’t do anything. This was a private school so he didn’t have tenure or anything. Also my meeting with the principal was supposed to be confidential but she told the lunch monitor who told her daughter who was a classmate who bullied me so of course she told the teacher. Fun times
My middle school had a really specific and slightly bizarre dress code that could make buying clothes pretty hard. This was particularly difficult because a lot of rules were based on proportion (tank top straps must be 4 fingers wide, etc) and that’s an age when children generally grow really fast. When I was in 7th grade the assistant principal’s kids started attending the school. The dress code stopped within four days of his kids attending lol.
My school was very strict with the dress code. I remember having a very light pink hair band in my hair and got told to take it out because it wasn't the school's colour??? The inky hair band we were allowed was navy blue, black, and white. It's so stupid because it's just a hair band??
Also, another thing. When I was in year 7, my school made a rule where skirts had to be a certain height, and if they were any inch shorter, they'll be sent home. The school was thankful for getting into trouble with this because it was a major risk thing?
I went to a religious school that got up out butts about what kinds of SOCKS kindergartners wore, so I believe you 100%
My high school didn’t have a uniform, but we did have a pretty standard dress code. One of the things though that was on the dress code was prohibiting students to wear T-shirts that had certain Disney characters on them, because they could be associated with gangs apparently. I guess, certain gangs would wear certain Disney characters to tell other members or other gangs that they were in a particular gang or whatever.
Anyways, I had this T-shirt that had Mickey Mouse on it because it was a kingdom hearts T-shirt (the video game, kingdom hearts where there’s Disney characters and Mickey is like King Mickey). So I had worn this kingdom hearts, T-shirt, the whole year, pretty much here and there without any problems from any teachers. But then suddenly one day I was wearing the shirt and a teacher told me that I couldn’t wear the shirt and took me to the principal’s office and the principal was like yeah you can’t wear that shirt I reasonably questioned it asking why no one ever said anything before and I told them that it was from a video game that had Mickey in the game. I tried to explain it to them and I was really confused why it was suddenly a problem, but apparently it was. The shirt was like themed around the game so it wasn’t like a regular shirt that just had Mickey Mouse stamped in the middle. It had like a background pattern from the game and Mickey Mouse was in an outfit that was only in the game. So anyways they call my mom and told her about it and she had to come up and bring me a new shirt. But even my mom was confused why it was a problem because she knew that I had been wearing that shirt the whole year and she knew that it was from a video game. It’s like they thought that I was in a gang because I was wearing a shirt that had Mickey Mouse on it.
I just don’t even know why it’s like part of the dress code because if a student is going to participate in gang activity they’re going to do it regardless of whether or not they can wear these certain Disney characters on their T-shirts. And for students who just liked Disney or in my case liked something that had Disney characters in it I just don’t see the harm in doing that. I don’t really recall the area being that bad with crime and gang activity. Obviously gangs exist and we all knew that they did but it’s not like it was a really bad or sketchy area. So I don’t even understand the rule as like a safety concern. Because outside of school you can wear whatever you want and be perfectly fine and not be targeted.
I just never have heard of that kind of thing, if there were any gangs that used Disney characters to signal like that. They would obviously also know that other people not in a gang would wear shirts that have Disney characters on them because Disney is a huge company and lots of people like Disney. I just don’t understand why it was in the dress code, like why it was such a problem
I went to school in England where uniforms are the standard, and I'm a boy so wasn't dress coded myself, but I'm now remembering a time in middle school (I'd have been 11-12) when a teacher was getting us to read silently or something like that and was walking around the class asking girls to stand up and then the teacher got them to stand still while she payed close attention to the length of their skirts. It was really awkward, it wasn't a quick stand up, they'd stand there and the teacher would look up and down at them and then tell them it was okay to sit down or that their skirts were too short. After doing this to at least half the girls in the class she said she had to do this because there'd been some concerns among the staff about the length of girl's skirts.
I found that school awful and abusive for many unrelated reasons, but thinking back to that times makes me think what I went through was a just a part of how awful that school was.
If the problem is girls distracting boys, a more positive way of dealing with that was by a male RE teacher in my upper school. He told us a story about how he'd noticed a boy in his classroom sitting rather strangely and apparently daydreaming and thought it was a bit odd, then realized he was trying to look up the skirt of the girl sitting opposite him. So to not embarrass the girl he told the boy to stay back after class since he wasn't paying attention, and after the class had a quiet word with him one to one about how he shouldn't do that sort of thing.
Idaho is up in the Pacific NORTHWEST, not even a state that was anywhere NEAR the Confederacy existed, so those students could not even PRETEND that it was about anything other than racism! Idaho is the armpit we don't like to claim here in the PNW.
*homophobia, not racism
Uuuhh no. As a Seattleite, Idaho is absolutely not in our club lol.
Catholic all girls high school survivor here. I've had rage about uniforms and dress codes forever and watching thin girls get away with everything while plus sized girls get called out over and over is enough to give one an aneurysm.
my schools uniform was khaki bottoms and a school maroon top that we had to buy from our bookstore. all of our things including gym uniforms and sweaters had to be bought from the school or else we'd get dress coded. no one really minded the uniform or anything but one issue we had was whenever someone was on their period. there was always accidents of people bleeding into their khaki pants which is obviously so embarrassing especially as a teen😭 we would be so paranoid during our periods, constantly checking ourselves in the bathroom or constantly asking friends to check us whenever we stood up. so a bunch of us asked the school to allow students to wear black or dark bottoms to help with this issue but they kept ignoring us. so a few of us decided to start a protest of sorts where we would come to school in black/dark bottoms until they allowed it. we spread the word and eventually the majority of our school (we had a big school, around 4k students) were walking into school everyday with black/dark bottoms. whenever they would try giving us a dress code sticker, we would ignore them or take it then just throw it away. and they couldn't just send practically the whole school to the deans and it was starting to get social media attention so they caved and allowed it as part of the dress code. they tried only allowing it for girls but we told them not everyone who gets a menstrual cycle identifies as a woman. it was during my last year in high school so i didn't really get to enjoy being able to wear black pants during my period all that much but im glad everyone else will be able to :) it's something im still proud of to this day
At the beginning of secondary school, the dress code stated that girls where not to wear cycling shorts underneath skirts. This was never enforced but was easily the most questionable rule I've come across personally.
Yall I just learned that British people get offended if u say American words in their country. Like deadass. Someone got mad that we say hallway instead of corridor and they said it sounds “slobbish and lazy” and that it wasn’t formal enough💀💀
No, Literally no one gaf if you say hallway💀 like we use hallway too
@@zoeyc5851 someone deadass got mad and told me they think we’re slobs and lazy if we say hallway bc it’s “informal” 😭😭
People on reddit once got really mad at me for using "asshole" instead of "arsehole" 🙄 I guess we don't have any bigger problems 💀
Shout out to my sister who picked me up from the side of the road when I was 16, because I got kicked out of school for not having anything to wear over my tank top (with a high neck and 3" wide straps) since it was June. I didn't have a cellphone and they didn't let me call anyone, so by the time I walked the 2 miles to the nearest gas station wearing flip flops my feet were bleeding. And if I hadn't been able to reach her I guess I'd have had to walk the 10+ more miles home barefoot or something. But hey, at least I wasn't distracting anyone by having shoulders. 🥴
When I was in middle school one of my friends was in a band called “Just Another Shooter” and we made tshirts. The school made us cover up the S so we were walking around in “Just another hooter” T-shirt’s.
This was about 15-20 years ago.
The bathroom thing happened at my school but in the inverse. They were trying to curb the amount of kids smoking inbetween classes so they locked every boys' bathroom save for one on the third floor. A kid got a UTI from not being able to go pee and was sent to the hospital. Some of the kids at school responded by peeing in the drinking fountains outside classes and as a result were suspended for being indecent. When the school investigated it they realized the situation with the bathrooms, and rather then open more up, decided that they'd just ban kids from using the bathroom altogether. So we had to literally wait seven hours to use the bathroom. And they eventually expanded it to include girls' bathrooms too, saying that "students should learn to hold it better" and that "they'd better plan ahead if they know they're on their period". Needless to say that principal no longer works there, and that was his first and only year.
Oh, and the school district had no idea that this was going on the entire time by the way. I think they're still dealing with some legal repercussions for it too.
"theyd better plan ahead if they know theyre on their period" WTF???? im throwing a godamn bloody pad at him
@@Kyah_67 yeah, the good thing is the teachers were (mostly) opposed too so they'd let students use the faculty bathrooms in emergencies
@@harristauffacher5935 omg good.i think my school tried to do this stupid shit too but they didnt-
@@Kyah_67 well good that they didn't
Also I used to always wear leggings because the shorts sold at stores were always too short for dress codes. It was near impossible to find shorts that were long enough. So I rocked leggings under shorts my entire time in school until college.
Our dress code just got "removed." Granted, it's a LOT better than it was, and most of our teachers don't care if we break it, but in the student handbook our only dress code is "no middrifts if you lift your arms, and no bra straps"
I went to school here in Scotland. My school, in general, did not have the worst dress code, just a typical school uniform, but there was one situation that led to revolt 😂 In warmer weather, guys could wear black "smart" shorts (ie not sports shorts) but apparently girls could not. I had a friend who was quite tomboy-ish. She preferred the school shorts to skirts. This caused uproar with senior management and she was sent home on 3 seperate days for breaching dress code, which was especially ridiculous because her shorts were longer than most of our friend's skirts (no eyelashes batted there though). As my high school was relatively small, everyone knew and no one agreed. And so we started off with a petition alongside a page of argument for everyone to be allowed to wear shorts or no one to be allowed. When this failed, the following week saw every guy in a skirt/pinafore and every girl in shorts. Needless to say we won, the dress code was changed. We were so proud of ourselves 😂
My reaction nowadays to a confederate flag cape would probably be "prove Edna Mode right."
Your cape keeps getting snagged on things and caught in doors? How strange.
Something I never figured out, but it was werird.....in school, classes would line up outside and girls would be inspected, making sure that thier uniform is done correct with the top buttons done, thier nails clean (for some reason, thier attire, add ons, thier hairstyles. One teacher who did this was an old man close to retirement. This would happen often and when the boys asked him about it, he just said he was following the school rules. But the funny thing was, he disappeared the next day. Nobody would talk about him, and there was loads of rumours going on. People got detention for mentioning his name.
My school didn’t have a specific dress code for cheerleaders, but the coaches gave those poor girls some really messed up guidelines.
One day, they had to wear their cheerleader windbreaker outfits
The next day, they had to wear a dress with cowboy boots, have their hair tied up in a single ponytail with red lipstick.
The next next day, they had to wear their cheerleading uniform with their Hair tied up in some way.
One day, they had to wear jeans with their cheerleader shirts, and the last day was a casual day, but they still had to have their hair up in some way and I’m pretty sure that they also had to wear red lipstick.
When a guy was made the mascot for the first time in a long time, he was technically a cheerleader. And when he and the other cheerleaders got sick and tired of the control, he decided that he would follow the cheerleader dress code to the letter. It only took one day of him prancing around in a cheerleading uniform for those rules to loosen up a lot 🥴 they very specifically got rid of the weird and creepy red lipstick rule.
One of the guys in my high school came in wearing a jacket that wasn't zipped up and no shirt. Did not get in trouble. A month or so later a girl came in with a tank top and sweater. Got sent to the office for distracting her teacher.
As a trans woman, I get so pissed off when I read articles about a school dresscoading a trans girl because she does not look like a girl or “boys” don’t wear girls clothes!
My government teacher was constantly motioning for girls to pull their shirts up to cover cleavage. He was a preacher as well lol
Pep rallies are just fun ngl- it's not about football, it's about all sports and outside activities. It's fun and is about school spirit. The band plays (me), the cheer team does something, the dance team puts on a performance, the sports teams talk about their upcoming events and give announcements. The student council members do some silly challenge. It's always one of the best parts of the first semester of high school
We had a situation where a girl's hair was a little messy and our OLD AS BALLS, male history teacher told her she looked like she just got r****. It's awful how comfortable people are making comments like this, because there are too little consequences for that. x_x
Whenever I see anything regarding dress codes I remember one thing that happened in my high school. The one I went to was pretty relaxed with their code. As long as shorts and skirts were not too short and no undergarments showed, there was usually no problem. I would often wear a denim jacket so I wouldn't get cold. Though there was nothing in the code that said jackets were not allowed, a staff member thought that wearing my favorite jacket was an issue even though I'd been wearing it for months. They did back down when others voiced their objections. [As a side note I live in a place where winters can get really cold and the school's heating system was ancient and barely worked.]
All these stories make me even more grateful for my school basically not having a dress code whatsoever but we did have a huge weed problem that resulted in half the bathrooms being locked on one side of the building
My school tried to ban tattoos. It was plain dumb. For a few weeks, the people with arm tattoos would put bandages to cover them, but ultimately and from the pressure they backed up.
When I was like five I was told that I couldn’t wear dresses with ‘spaghetti straps’ and got in trouble for not wearing bras at that same elementary school when I was nine. The worst part was most of the staff were women (yet did not defend me) and most of the kids were bullies (and did not care what I was wearing cause they would bully me no matter what I wore).
So, no US school makes you attend the game to my knowledge. Usually you have to buy a ticket to attend. But the pep rally is mandatory normally. Like you can’t go to the library or something while it’s being held.
AT my school they let us chose if we want to go so we went to their classrooms, an small amount of kids got into the library when we weren’t allowed to go in
Our pep rallys were free and we got out of actual classes so I doubt anyone would've wanted to skip out on them tbh
My sixth grade teacher complained to the principal about me in a tank top and it prompted them to ban tank tops in the whole school because and this is a direct quote “he was having a hard time focusing on teaching” literally disgusting. If the body of a 12 year old is distracting to you, you shouldn’t teach children. 😒
I'm so glad the schools, the ones I used to frequent, allowed me to wear pants instead of skirts!!
I have many friends with good grades and multiple years of experience (teaching English abroad) who couldn't get into Teacher's College. Looking at how easy it was for the earlier generation to become a teacher and how little they care about kids angers me so much
This reminded me of my last year in primary school. As a little background, I'm mtf (which I wasn't aware of in 4th grade), from Germany and we never had a dress code at all. However I always adored how girls dressed and so I copied their style rather than what the boys were wearing at the time. I didn't wear dresses (even though I wished I could) but I did wear tight "girl" pants with glitter and pink shoes, sweaters or shirts. Except my shitty dad no-one ever gave a shit. My Mum bought me whatever I wanted, my class mates treated me like everyone else and my teacher didn't care at all. But in 4th grade my teacher became quite sick and Frau Kirsch (yes it is her real name) replaced him. On her first day in our class she called in me in front of all my class mates and demanded that I go home and change into proper "boy" clothes. To be honest I didn't even know what she was talking about. I was a boy at the time, I wore clothes so my clothes were "boy" clothes, right? Unfortunately I felt very ashamed and wasn't confident enough to disagree. So I packed my stuff and went home with tears in my eyes. Of course my Mum was confused when I came back home after only 30 minutes I left and I explained her what was going on. Long story short she grabbed me and went back to school with me. First we went straight to my class room where she shouted at the new teacher in front of the entire class (never seen her so angry) and then we went to the principals office where she demanded Frau Kirsch needed to be fired for her behaviour. I don't know what happened to her but we had a new teacher the very next day and I never ever saw her again. So this is the story of how my Mum destroyed the fashion police in primary school
I was always a very lean, tall child. Then I hit puberty and my hips and boobs exploded out of me like an Alien chestburster.
So I had a very exaggerated 'hourglass figure' at like 12-13.
I was homeschooled, so no dress codes, but my mother insisted I had to wear a bra at all times because otherwise my father would see my nips through my shirt and 'be tempted'.
And I was constantly approached IN CHURCH by old men (or their wives) and told what I was wearing was inappropriate for the house of god, and was 'causing my brothers to stumble'.
I was still wearing the same childish dresses I'd worn for my whole life, with bows and ribbons and lace.
When I was 15-16ish, I think in 10th grade, I got sent to the office for rips in my jeans. When I was in high school I lived only with my biodad, who didn’t work, so it’s not like these were ripped on purpose designer or the distressing was in an inappropriate area, they were just normal wear and tear along the knee area from kids being active. I had to wait in the office until my dad brought me a change of clothes, and the pair of jeans he brought me also had rips in the knees, albeit smaller ones lower down on the leg. Because these were apparently also unacceptable, they told him to just bring me home. I missed 4 classes and a test that day because my child knee skin was showing.
This was NOT the only time I was dress coded and was certainly the least sexualized instance, but this was the most ridiculous and unnecessary instance that I experienced.
OH MY GOD!! MY STORY IS IN HERE!! Mine is the one about the tank tops and the creepy officer! 10:00
Thank you for covering this!! It was so scary For Both of us. Thank you so much again for including my story!
I used to be a student at a very average German school and here's my story about the dress code(apologies for any mistakes I am severely dyslexic).
this was in 8th grade (German grade system) and I had come out as trans (agender and I was previously out as genderfluid) a year prior. My school had always shown obvious support so I thought no one would care that much but most of the teachers started slowly making transphobic comments and being rude about my anatomy (I am intersex and never got any surgeries or anything, it says so on my school file). they suddenly started giving me "dress code violations" which were just detention because my body didn't look like they wanted it to. like they would give me detention for wearing leggings their reasoning was that you could tell that I had a dick????? but on the other hand, they would give me detention for not wearing a shirt on the swim days (I never had chest growth so I look the same as a cis man in that aspect) but when I wore a one-piece-swimsuit under my trunks, I ALSO got detention because I was apparently wearing "sexually suggestive clothing" LIKE HUH?????????? this kept happening till I just straight up skipped all of the swim days till I graduated. Their only reasoning was I should cover up was "so students don't get confused about their sexuality or their gender" because my identity was "less confusing" when I identified as genderfluid because and I quote: " genderfluid was just you being both like god intended but whatever this agender bgender nonsense is an abomination and denial of gods will". WHAT?????
so my high school years were hard, to say the least
Currently in year 10 In an Australian public school!
My school has been cracking down this year with school rules:
- no phones
- no headphones
- no apple or smart watches
- nothing else considered a “communication device”
- not wearing your P.E shirt will affect your chances of getting your year ten certificate
- only can wear school colours
- only can wear school uniform and jumper for anything
I can’t even listen to music during break time anymore, kids are mad but we follow along since it affects our certificate
I’m just so tired to school man. You may only have an exemption from some rules for medical reasons.
I’m just hoping to survive the year with all these new rules
I thankfully have never had issues with “distracting” people, I think the weirdest thing recently was a teacher calling me and my friend adorable in class, which made my class pause, ask him not to say it, and then we continued on. 😅
Sadly to make up for the lack of school dress code drama, we have other horror stories…
My friend’s Sixth Form (16-18) has a dress code of “Nothing you can see up, down or through.” which I think is a pretty good one.
When I asked about the dress code at *my* sixth form the head looked at me and went “Uh, we don’t really have one. What you’re wearing now works fine.”
we literally had to wear sweat pants in PE classes, girls could not wear shorts, only sweat pants, no matter what the current weather was outside, of course this did not apply to boys, back then i didnt think much about it, but we were literally not allowed
When I was in 11th grade, I was the student council president, so I helped some grade 7 girls put in a dress code reform. The issue with our dress code was how vague its parameters were, lots of "not too tight" or "not too short" without any indication of what "too" meant. So we actually rewrote the entire thing. Here's what it was to my best memory (this was 3 years ago).
1. No sheer or translucent materials. All clothing had to be opaque over the nether regions and the chest area. Translucent sleeves, legs or belly were fine.
2. No visible underwear. This did not include straps or bands. So the band of your underwear or your bra strap was fine, but the actual underwear part or the bra cup was too much. This rule specifically states that gender affirming wear, such as binders, are not applicable.
3. Shorts have to go below your bum line. Shirts had to cover your chest and under your arms, but crop tops were fine.
4. If you wear a hat your face/ears must be visible (not including religious headwear).
Dress codes are awful. They tend to lean into racist, sexist, and religion/cultural profiling. There were some kids dress coded when I was in middle school because these boys had long hair. They are Native American and their long hair is part of their culture.
Since my story wasn’t read I’ll paste it here!
Hi, Kiwi!
I am a nonbinary AFAB (I go by all pronouns) who was raised in a conservative rural town in southern US for 13 years. I was always put down for the way I look, and I began to rebel from the conservative culture more than I always had by the time I was in high school. The high school I went to was with a dress code, obviously. We had one school principal accompanied by three vice principals (all men by the way) that would wander the halls, trying to catch people doing things that were against school policy. In the morning, at least one of the vice principles would be waiting in the front hallway to check for dress code violations and other misdeeds.
I, by the time I was in freshman year, was a fairly punk-presenting person who did everything to subvert the dress code in ways that couldn’t be considered violations. I very commonly wore the approved navy polo dress with one of my own skirts on top because belts and skirts were not directly disallowed by the school policy when wearing a dress. Of course, on typical hot days, I would wear the dress with a cute skirt that went just below the hem to express myself - wearing more clothes than I otherwise would be wearing. One day, one of the vice principals was standing in the front hallway, as usual. For some reason was in a pissy mood. He immediately looked me up and down and called out, “What do you think you’re doing wearing that skirt?“ I averted eye contact, stared down at my legs, took my skirt off, and stepped out of it right in front of him in the middle of the large, open area past the hallway.
I continued looking down and walked with my sister up the flight of stairs towards the end of the room. I caught a glance when we were going up the stairs of his stunned ass standing there in shock. A few minutes later, I was sitting in my first period class. He barged in while the teacher wasn’t yet at her desk and grabbed a sticky note from her desk. He asked my name and wrote it down, followed by “LUNCH DETENTION”. Apparently, as he explained, he had no idea that I was wearing a dress, and he thought I was only going to have a shirt on when I actually was fully covered. He told me that other students would be encouraged to wear skirts if they saw someone subverting the dress code and I straight up asked “What’s wrong with that?” He didn’t respond and just left the room.
That was my first and only lunch detention and my entire high school career. I was my class valedictorian at that school and had a completely clean record. I was in many service clubs and got several of them back together after Covid fucked them up.
Luckily, I moved away from that state at the beginning of my junior year in high school. I am now graduating, and I am so lucky to be in a place that is accepting of queer people and those who simply wish to express themselves without being harassed.
This is one of my favorite stories to tell people in my current state about life in the Deep South and I would be honored if you included it in your video!!!
Thanks so much,
Brynn
In the last story when the word "assaulted" came up I first assumed that she hadassaulted someone because why would someone get expelled for having that be done to them. This world is so fucked up and I hope that either that entire school was shut down or the entire faculty replaced. No one who doesn't intervein in a case like that with a willingness to get fired for doing the right thing should be a teacher!
From twitter
A 17-year-old transgender girl in Mississippi decided not to attend her high school graduation after officials said she had to follow the boys’ dress code. After filing a lawsuit against the school, a federal judge sided against her.
A Mississippi public school district, the largest on the Coast, made a last-minute dress code change that will force transgender kids to dress as their gender assigned at birth.
Louise HS senior “Sanay” Martinez was told she can’t come back to school until she follows dress code (no long hair or earrings for males). Sanay says that’s not fair since she identifies as a trans woman.
These girls should come to school wearing kilts, high heels and makeup. If anyone tries to stop them they should say that all these fashions were invented for men and were later adopted by women, so technically they are wearing “male” clothes.
I remember when I was in elementary school we were in a small town so every elementary kid(grades separated ofc) would get to go to the local small waterpark that could fit all the kids in that grade near the end of school. Boys(keep in mind these boys were kindergarten-4th grade per grade) would be aloud to have just shorts. No shirt,nothing under the shorts. On the other hand girls had to wear either non-revealing one pieces or two pieces that were like those swim shirts and swim pants. My mother never signed the form after around 2nd grade because this dress code was restrictive. I got to stay at school and play games though.
pep rallies are not held outside of school hours, or at least my school's never were. the school day was shortened to make the afternoon free for the pep rally, which would generally go until the end of the school day
I participated in a study of some kind in middle school. I don't remember much but I stopped by the counselors office twice a week after school. I basically just wrote an honest statement about when teachers or staff would tell me to tuck my shirt in or take my jacket off inside....or when they would write me up or send me to retract for not wearing/having a belt.
I never saw the results or knew exactly how many other people participated but it was a lot of "poor" people and I guess it just made me more aware of dress codes.
My trans sister (male to female) has gotten written up multiple times to the point she has almost gotten Saturday school because of her hair. To be clear we go to private religious school so she was very closeted. We wear uniforms where girls are supposed to wear skirts or shorts (most girls wear skirts are you can imagine them as the stereotypical pretty rich kids) and most girls had there skirts literally up there ass. It’s not that hard to see and you don’t have to look closely it’s obvious when you’re walking around. This is against the dress code but NOBODY says anything about it. My sister tries to express herself through her hair but because the school sees her as a male, she is not allowed to have long hair and has to tie it up because it’s passed her collar. She a couple strands of her hair down because she wants to express herself a bit without getting questioned. She has gotten written up over 5 times while over girls haven’t gotten written up for there skirts. A teacher even wrote her up on a day we weren’t even at school. She got let off easy but I’m pissed because nobody cares about these girls skirts that are obviously noticeable and against the dress code but my sister can’t have long hair. It makes no sense to me (note I’m a female who sees this skirt problem as a problem)
my school also had waaaay more rules for girls with talks about how it distracts other boys and male teachers. We all found it really creepy. I vaguely remember how they had a rule often skirt length and heel length, would sometimes measure girls skirt, a few times sending people home.
Also are school really pushed buying specific school clothes (along side our regular uniform) from the school store (it was like a company you order from through the school) that was almost always more expensive than retail. Often it was with shoes, jumpers, hoodies and coats ect.
I remember being told off for my bad school shoes, not having school branded cardigan and buttons. I understood the buttons but I pushed back against the other stuff, especially my shoes I straight told a teacher like how my mum is not going to waste money on new shoes when there is like 1/2 months left of school. I would switch to trainers too and again explain not every family has the money for new stuff whenever or afford all the stuff from the school store.
Also F YEAH to the people standing up to the stupid teachers and stupid rules that often sexualise girls when they literally want to come to school and feel comfortable.
My school had dresses as uniforms, and I was around 10 when all the girls in my grade were gathered in the school hall. We were not allowed to cross our legs UNDER THE DESKS because it made our thighs visible and a male teacher had complained. The skirts were not short. It was literally just because the position outlined our legs and showed a bit of skin a bove the knee.
The things my spirit weeks led up to were never compulsory at my school. I never had to go to homecoming or any football game. We had a few spirit weeks a year tho! Its just fun for high school students getting too used to the monotony of life.
I got dress coded once for wearing headphones around my neck. I thought they looked cool but my teacher insisted I was listening to something. When I showed her the unplugged cord she got mad. Had to take them off for alebgra anyways.
Still pretty sure that teacher was a vampire.
My school makes girls wear short skirts all winter but as soon as we have a dress down day we arent allowed to wear shorts (i currently go to a private school that has uniforms)
Oh there ARE university dress codes in the US. The college I went to had an HONOR code we signed every semester promising not to do things like drink, party, or be homosexual. They had ended their “girls must wear skirts to all classes” policy in 2007, two years before I attended.
I'm surprised none of these stories involved teachers measuring girls' shorts in school. Unfortunately that was a normal occurrence when I was in middle school and I assumed it was normal everywhere. Horrifying and disgusting, but normal.
That last story was mine. I’m 38 now and I still think about that day constantly. That school is notorious for sweeping horrible shit under the rug as long as the football team is doing well. The football player randomly tackled me on the front lawn of the school and I got a concussion. Had to miss almost two weeks of school and was expelled for my attendance.