1: New thing = Scary 2: Ignorance leads to hatred They will never attend a drag show so they will continue to misunderstand them. The only way to fight this is education and representation. Exposure to people unlike you makes you realize everyone *IS* like you. Sorry, I'm prolly preaching to the choir down here.
its quite telling that they seem to have no issues when men play women on tv/shows in a way that’s meant to mock women, but when its a drag queen for a fashion show its suddenly an issue
the funniest thing to me is when the “we can tell” crowd tries to call me out as a trans woman when i’m just a cis woman with masculine features 😭😭😭 oh and also a great example of a man who ACTUALLY pretends to be a woman to make a joke out of women? stephen crowder
@@jadamiller7485I would probably be confused for a guy too but sometimes I've had men say I was attractive too it really depends on there taste too not that they really have any but some of them will say stuff to me like, "looking for a good time?" As they drive by and other ones have confused me for a guy too because of my large nose. I'm not conventionally attractive and when your not conventionally attractive you will get all sorts of weird comments like that so he can either start sucking or leave me alone if they think I'm a dude. The real question should not be is she a man? The real question should be why are you out here stalking trans women in the first place sir? Just because I find women more attractive than men doesn't mean I went out and changed my gender some guys are sick in the head like that where they pick on the girls they find attractive they think that by insulting you it will make you like them. It doesn't because there trying to get you to lower your standards for them so that they will have easier access to you. The reason why I know this is because there's this woman I know of that's getting married to a man and she dresses exactly like a man too.they see her as some kind of placeholder and if they really think you look ugly like that they would probably want to tie you down and marry you so that you don't try to date anyone else if your to attractive they will always want to discard you because a really attractive feminine looking woman would make them more nervous then just a standard 1950s house wife type of woman that wears bland or modest clothing. They don't want you to be the prize and if you really are hot they will pick on you a lot not just a little bit or once in awhile.
Fr, I was like.... bish, that's like saying 40% of people have tried fent when you work at a drug rehabilitation center [insert distant screeching of ya boy losing his goddamn mind]
Don't forget that it's an argument like "the dog of my friends works at the clinic" which basically means "trust me bro". So it's not even 40% probably.
@overlordfemto7523 when we define gender and sex on ideas that aren’t supported in WORLD history and WORLD religions you fail to have an open mind. as it’s not a fair to then be transphobic in those systems that humans made up based off things we saw commonly happening. trans people ahve appeared through out history, as well in many religions, such as native americans(third spirits i think), with mainly the newer translations of christian (and abrahamic regions) religions that were so transfixed on the idea of gender roles. Since it came from the time where Rome was established, and worked with male led government basically, and the bible was only put in place due to the roman emperor putting it together when they decided to stop murdering Christians and making martyrs. So take a step back from where you are in this trans argument, and think about why we even created sex and gender to begin with and think about how it benefit and hurts you and those around you.
seeing 'memes' of women being stereotyped as constantly oppresed by their bosses makes me laugh cuz my mom works for herself and has a property management company 💀
For some reason that reminded me of a scene from the OG Roseanne with Jackie, so in my head it's like "I'm not even allowed a sick day, let alone a vacation..." "But you work for yourself!" "I know... these are MY rules..."
9:47 Even if you think that your gender is the same as genitals, you still can't tell what their gender is. At least i hope you're not looking at peoples genitals when you first meet them
And the thing is, not all intersex conditions present with ambiguous genitalia at birth. LOTS of us don't find out we're intersex until we're adults. It seems like every year I read about another medical student who finds out they're intersex by doing genetic testing as part of their classwork. Genes, gonadal tissue, hormones, and external appearance are all factors that go into determining sex, and yet these chuckleheads are always out there trying to pretend it's a simple, obvious binary.
One of the really interesting facts of the world is that there is a living set of conjoined twins where one is a woman and the other is a trans man. They are conjoined at the skull and share brain matter. There is a lot of aspects about our brain that are abstract and difficult to quantify, and our gender is one of them. It’s an example of how complicated and diverse humans are and it’s beautiful.
I saw an underwear mannequin (no head/limbs) in Target that had back/side rolls & it made me gasp in glee!! I wish there had been options like that when I was growing up & it filled my heart to see that! ❤ diversity matters so much.
I had a similar situation where I almost cried realizing I could put "X" on my passport instead of being forced to use my birth gender. Diversity seriously has an effect and even little things can make big impacts.
Ok... But I'm not surprised that a place that does paternity tests would have a high rate of not the father results. Like there's a bit of a selection bias naturally occuring here. Like most of your clients are possibly dealing with some sort of infidelity or some other type of family stuff. Like you're not going to have people in happy marriages without any extramarital sex or adoption or something if your services are related to finding out of two people are really related or not.
I had the most frustrating argument about sex work being work, I merely said that I wouldn’t be interested in it but that I’m also not interested in being a plumber or an accountant. The other person then went on a weird rant about those jobs needing qualifications, which by their logic any job that doesn’t require a higher education (be it uni or a trade school) doesn’t count? I do dislike people sometimes.
Ah, we know the culprit now, classism. That's not surprising, SWERFs are usually also classist and discriminate against the poorest of us for not being great "examples of female excellence".
Cis straight transphobic men love Rome... In Rome, women weren't allowed to perform on stage, and the feminine parts were played by men dressed in wigs, feminine clothing and jewelry, and makeup. Aka, ancient drag. They support ancient drag. For some reason, those men get real upset and defensive and sputtery when you point this out.
@@Hana_H Funny how every single comment and post featured during the video are from women. 11:28 20:08 20:59 22:31 26:17 but you know, it's just a bunch of men being mysogynistic.
@@Divert486 I said "some of" the participants. Plus I don´t think the few posts Kiwi has talked about can be taken as telling enough of how many women and how many men post there
17:30 hear me out, I agree it’s unfair to assume that women are cheating, but I do agree that there should be a mandatory DNA test FOR BOTH PARENTS to make sure that the hospital didn’t give you the wrong baby Also stricter regulations on sperm and egg donors
I see your point, but statistically, that is such a rare occurrence, that it just doesn’t make sense to use public funds on it. If it were, say, an illness, that affected
@@ThatBookGirl exactly and whether or not the partner cheated is a personal matter, the government and laws cannot be interfering in personal matters, we already have therapists and counsellors to deal with such instances.
Hospital bracelets are put on like right after birth. Accidents happen but it's a lot rarer than it used to be for someone to be sent home with the wrong newborn.
26:30 . Nobody is forcing you to vote. If you want to be a traditional wife with a traditional man, you can do so, without taking stuff away from other women. It’s not rocket science .
I agree, but they’re hypocrites because they’ll still vote anyways. It’s just to push the narrative that “telling people to vote is mean” or something else ridiculous, can’t remember because it wasn’t clever.
It was never a men infiltrating womens spaces thing, it was only meant to keep trans women away from safe spaces so they could be harmed, just so the cis can stay in power.
The biggest factor in escaping domestic abuse is *Financial Independence*. Do not give up control over your own money, even for someone you trust and love. Abusive spouses tend to show their true colours once they feel you are unable to leave them, trapped with no funds to survive on your own.
Thanks for making this video!! I really wanted to address this! Thanks for making people more aware! Lotz of love to you! xoxo and as for the dumb argument they make that a woman is a slave in the corporate world, bc she works for a male boss, then in that case men are also slaves in the corporate world to other men! hence their argument falls flat. smh.
If you want to do multiple videos about these groups/keep that account under the radar i would avoid reading out your group-joining questionnaire answers word for word/showing them. if i remember correctly they can bring it back up, and ban your account from the group/"expose" it as you to similar groups you may want to "infiltrate" (they do word it like this..)
On the DNA test one I do think there’s one take that I slightly agree on! Basically, a guy said that he thinks he’d do it with his kid since he’s worried about baby mixups in the hospital And honestly? I get that one.
Yeah the testing one is clearly just like survival bias. Its not survival bias but its a similar one i dont remember the name of. Where the bias results because the only people doing the test are skewed. Edit: the name is self selection bias. Another commenter remembered.
My opinion on this topic is that if it’s not you, your body, or doesn’t involve you, why do you care so much about what I do? If I was trans let me be trans I’m not shoving my imaginary body parts in your face, if I’m gay im not forcing you to join me. If you don’t like tomatoes and I do I’m not going to force you to eat them. Everyone has a right to there own opinion at the end of the day though. And I can’t force anyone to change there views, no matter if I think there’s are wrong or right because everyone has a different moral compass. And that’s what makes everyone human I guess.
About the not knowing someone's gender one around the 10:20 mark: My oldest sibling is enby and when they're out most of the time people assume they are the opposite gender to what they were "born as" so it just goes to show people really don't know and can't tell because gender is just a construct so there's really no one way to be a gender we all just identify as we want and present as we feel comfortable.
Id personally get too jealous if i was dating a current SW because i would consider it cheating, but i agree they deserve to be happy with a partner/marrige if that is what they want
i feel the same way, i feel like i'd get jealous and they deserve to be with someone who wouldn't feel that way. it's just all about communication and being open with your wants and needs
No, because they don't actually want that. These people only want to erase trans people from public life, they don't really care about holding consistent or logical beliefs
another great video 🖤🖤 facebook is crazy lmao cant believe one of them actually said she'd give up her vote, literally one of the most important fundamental rights in a democratic country. if that's not pick-me behavior idk what is
We need to teach feminist history to everyone. It would honestly fix a lot of the misogyny we have. Same with teaching the history of all marginalized groups. Though let’s be real, that’s why they don’t teach us.
14:40 - I used to work in clinical genetics (where incidentally we try to avoid determining paternity unless it's clinically relevant, such as strengthening evidence that a variant is de novo or appears in a parent, because we don't want incidental findings), the rate of misattributed paternity is absolutely nowhere near 40%. The true rate is closer to 1%, and has been falling in the last century thanks to many of the social changes that conservatives decry, like access to contraceptives and easier divorce allowing women to leave loveless and/or abusive relationships. People who are seeking paternity testing obviously have a reason to be seeking it, which can be knowledge of an affair, an inconsistent phenotype, or the presumed father is a paranoid control freak whose partner possibly resents him enough to seek affection elsewhere, hence the high rates of missattributed paternity seen in DNA testing centres. It's like looking at the rates of cancer in the general population by considering the rates of cancer found when testing people who have symptoms.
I joined this group on my fb before I deleted it. A made a comment on something that read “what no pussy does to a mf” and this guy who has done voice acting in resident evil games commented and was coming for me. He was like “SO WHAT DO YOU WANT? DO YOU WANT MEN TO HAVE VALUE BASED ON SEXUAL PARTNERS OR DOES BODY COUNT NOT MATTER?” I didn’t reply and just laughed reacted him. Bro kept on commenting after bc he was fuming. He ended up making a passive aggressive post about me hours later that got no traction. This man also has trouble dating- surprise, surprise. If you see him in that group, he a light skinned bald headed black guy 😭 he’s super active so idk if he has a life.
for real i been saying if you as a woman think you shouldn't be allowed to vote why are you expressing your opinion? i thought since you're a woman your opinion doesn't matter?
Kiwi really lost me at the bit about sex workers. There’s a difference between destigmatizing and glorifying. It doesn’t make someone insecure to not want to date a sex worker. Most can’t separate home life and work life if they’re literally having sex for money. And unless they’re in the top percentile I guarantee they are not happier and wealthier than most people. That doesn’t make them less of a person, but it’s dangerous to lie about stuff like this.
What I’m confused about is what they think being red pilled is? Cause isn’t one of the rules not to be a red pill, but most of these posts seem like they’re red pulled.
The 40% is really funny to me, since that means 60% of men who think they aren't the father (to what? get out child support? blame their partner?) ARE the father in fact and are just trying to make drama
I'm curious to know what the enlighten audience of RUclips thinks about enjoying Japanese kimono-appropriation or appreciation, or does it depend on the circumstances. e.g. whether the person in question has "done their research" vs. anime vs. unresearched/noob attempt?
I mean... it's not like other girls supporting not like other girls... does it count as a twisted version of women supporting women? (Not for serious. They aren't that.)
I love how they think all housewives/SAHMs are "submissive" and "serve" their husbands. The actual definition of a breadwinner/homemaker relationship is one partner doing paid work to support the household and the other partner taking care of running the household, domestic work, raising kids, etc. Not every couple who live like that are into that trad/religious submission crap lol. My mom was a SAHM and both she and my dad are the most liberal feminist hippies you'll meet. Neither of them considered what my mom did "submitting" or "serving" because not everyone sees the world through the lens of these weirdly gendered power dynamics. Miss me with that nonsense.
the difference that alot of these ppl dont seem to understand is the accessibility to the money. when you work and bring income. u have a say in where the money goes, use it to buy things u want and etc. alot of stay at home moms and women, dont have this accessibility. they have no say in what the money is used for. and in our capitalist society- where accessibility to money equals freedom,,, ☹ its such a privileged and ignorant thing to just compare a corporate job to stay at home. at least when you work, u get the freedom to do whatever u want with ur money. unlike alot of stay at home women (and men) who dont have that.
I feel like with trans things (as a trans person) why do yall care so much? It takes 0 effort to respect people's decisions. If you dont agree with someones life style, leave them alone? I don't agree that being vegan is the only way to live and is morally superior, so do i make a video shaming my vegan friends? Make a 45 minute rant video about it while claiming not to care? If these people didnt care half as much as they say they don't, they would keep to themselves.
Problem 1. "You aren't a wealth builder." Problem 2. "You're too focused on your career." My dude what's the career for if not like, making money stacking fucking paper and you know building wealth. (I hate the phrase building wealth because it tries to dignify a fundamentally vulgar thing we must all do to survive under capitalism, stack fucking paper.)
I’m in this group. And I’m a liberal feminist and they know that. I’ve had many good conversations in there. Most of the content isn’t misogynistic. Some guys in there are, but the majority of the group are pretty cool.
I have a question... please enlighten me or help me understand... Yes capitalism is a negative thing and in many ways associated with patriarchy or better say toxic masculinity... But, isn't it to some extent because of capitalism we can see double income family where both men and women are earning now? Earlier it was only men being the breadwinners and women the stay at home , homemakers or parents... The gender role division was more clear without capitalism, hence patriarchy was more rampant??? So are women earning because they are forced to due to capitalism, but not for financial independence of themselves and so that they don't have to depend upon men for their livelihood?? So if capitalism is finished will women go back to home making ( traditional PATRIARCHAL gender role)? And men will be the sole breadwinners again? Because that's how it was in a pre capitalistic society I guess? Wasn't it more patriarchal? So isn't women's financial independence important? Doesn't capitalism in a way help on women being financially independent or earning? Because definitely "women being financially dependent upon men" is one of the strongest pillars holding on to patriarchal societal power structure? Without capitalism, will women earn equally with men? Or will the traditional patriarchal gender role come back ? Please help me understand...even if men say they are forced to go to work... And still men don't give birth to children and don't go through the biological investment and post partum,breastfeeding healing of the body etc as women do .. so will men become stay at home parents? And women choose to earn in a non capitalist society? But in any way... Individual financial independence is getting lost in that way... One spouse have to depend upon the other for their livelihood...and it's risky at any situation, specially for women, when they have a kid to raise... As we have already seen in so many divorce cases around the world...
To be fair, while capitalist principles have helped women, in that they could start businesses and make money and things like that… capitalism isn’t the reason women have more rights now. Capitalism isn’t new, it’s existed for a very long time, and patriarchy has existed along with it. And because people in power (like heads of corporations and government officials) were mainly men, patriarchy became so intwined with capitalism that it can be hard to separate the two now. As such I think capitalism, as it stands now, will still hurt women because it is a system that has been manipulated to mainly cater to men. And to be fair, most countries do not exist a completely, 100% capitalist country. Anytime the government regulates industries, then it strays further from capitalistic principles, which can be a good thing! For example, affirmative action in companies or schools can be seen as a major reason women and people of color have access to those spaces now. Since the government regulates it, then it’s not a capitalist action. I think women’s rights isn’t tied to the economic system of a country or society, but the societal systems in place. Take Sparta for example, it wasn’t a capitalistic nation, but their women were viewed as more equal and were allowed to hold jobs and fight in battle alongside men. There are several other civilizations that didn’t have capitalism but had better gender equality. I’m not entirely for completely removing capitalism, cuz I know that there are good aspects of it. But I do believe that we should start to include more aspects of other economic systems that can make reduce the consequences of capitalism and better serve society. Because if we can minimize the consequences of our economic systems, then we can focus on making other aspects of life better for everyone, including women. And that way, everyone can make financial and social decisions that actually work best for them instead of just because they can’t afford to do something else (like someone choosing not to be a stay at home parent even if they want to or someone choosing a job they hate because it pays better or because they think they’re supposed to).
200$ just to know what your ancestry is? thats a absolute ripoff edit: just was scrolling through comments since the video wouldnt load, nvm, i know which dna test you meant now, but still the fact you have to spend 200$ so that you get basic info like if the child is even yours is insane
Ok sometimes that happens Even to the most well meaning people The problem is induce when someone corrects you on the identity and people refuse to respect you and give you shit for it Kiwi is not one of those people So where is your valid point, exactly?
its literally a requirement of the group to be transphobic before they let you enter, nobody in there is gonna be defying gender roles to that controversial a degree lol
Just because someone is "removed from reality" doesn't necessarily mean they need help or that they are ill Reality is a fairly subjective experience: Yes we all live on the same physical plane with physical actions and reactions But reality itself is not actually real; it's actually not a definable concept; it's just an idea Reality is actually created in the mind and therefore grows, expands, and changes You should look up philosopher Alan Watts
You can neither prove nor disprove that reality is actually real I can neither prove nor disprove that reality is actually real And that's exactly the point
I’ve never understood women hating women. I’m a closeted trans man so most people I’m around still see me as a woman. (Parents, teachers, family members, co-workers, ect.) I’ve heard conversations of women in my life talking about how some women should just stop complaining about life because they, and I quote, “Don’t have life that hard if they look like that.” Referring to women who seem to look as if they are more confident and actor their own bodies. My own mother has tried to convince me to marry a man who works while I stay home and take care of kids, even after I had told her I don’t think I’m ment to have kids. Most people around me are conservative and think that a traditional life is a good life, women does all the home work, men gets the all money, woman pleases the man. These same people have told me that women are not facing any issues and that they should just mind their own business?? This truly does confuse me a lot and I just don’t understand why people think like this. I understand wanting to do your own thing I just don’t understand hating on other when they do their own thing. (Edit. Thank you to everyone in the replies wishing me good luck and understanding what I'm going though! To everyone, trans or not, who has or is experiencing the same things as me, I wish you all the love in my heart!
goodluck on the whole trans thing, hopefully in the near future we have a society where people dont feel the need to be "closeted" out of fear of *x* thing
You're just undercover rn, hope you can be loud and proud when you want to, man. With how heavily women are critiqued on every little thing, putting others down for fitting/not fitting in with stereotypes ultimately occurs within the oppressed group. It sucks to see people tearing each other down further as a result of misogyny
Im writing a paper for my master's on the "gender critical" movement and i have to read through all of these UK based anti-feminist and anti-lgbtq+ groups. I feel your disgust at answering the questions and putting yourself into the shoes of these people. It's so icky.
@@WhiteWolf496 I've narrowed it down to 3 major organization's documents they've published (because I only have a couple of weeks to write the paper and a full quantitative or qualitative social media analysis would have been a much longer project, possibly YEARS long for a PhD or a post-doc paper) but yeah it's pretty sickening! A guy who did a PhD thesis on incels did FOUR YEARS of covert social media information gathering and he told me to take lots of mental health breaks when doing this kind of research on very bigoted orgs or groups. I'd definitely agree with him.
oh im sure you already know but i would definitely recommend Contrapoint's videos on Gender Criticals for your paper. Like some amazing videos she made on gender critical ideas and terfs are titled Gender Critical, Jk Rowling, and The Witch Trials of Jk Rowling.
People like this really be like "HOW DARE THEY MAKE CLOTHES FOR OVERWEIGHT PEOPLE! THEY SHOULD BE LEFT TO SUFFER WITH SLIMMER CLOTHES! GRR" It's baffling how little sense it makes to be fatphobic, or any kind of discrimination to be honest
it's literally just hating on fat ppl for existing lmao. will never get why people having the audacity to do literally anything while fat is so enraging to some people
And at the same time, if you go in to pretty much any Wal-Mart in the U.S. and try to find a XS, you probably will have a hard time. Because stores will cater to their clientele and carry what sells. Most people in the U.S. are overweight or obese by the numbers. There is a lot of fat shaming on the internet, and I wonder where that comes from. There would have to be some level of hypocrisy here. Numberswise.
I will never understand woman hating women. Like if u want a "tradition" marriage with a husband and kids, go for it, but don't shit on the rest of us who may not want those things. This goes for everyone: There's no one size fits all for life & what we choose to do with it should be our decision & not someone else telling us what we can & can't do or shaming us for not wanting the same things as them. We should be lifting each other up to achieve whatever gives our life fulliment without bringing others down for wanting different things in life. Also I want to note how fatphobic it is to want models to only be one size. It's part of the reason I started shopping in the men's section because not only was the clothing more comfortable but I didn't have to deal with the extra stress of getting something that ended up not fitting because it was tailored to only one body type
@overlordfemto7523 For u, it is wonderful, but that is not the case for everyone. This kind of shaming results in kids getting abused, neglected, and even in some cases abandoned. It also puts a heavy financial burden on people when they are either not ready for kids yet or don't want them. Also, u don't know what kind of medicine people are on (if any) & why they're on those medications, so u shouldn't make the claim that they're depresed & taking medicines because they don't want kids & it's horrible that u make such a claim. Not to mention that I can only imagine the horror on someone's face if u said this to them after they had recently had a miscarriage because u made the assumption about them. Or what about if their kids are in daycare or at school? Are u going to make this claim to every person u see who doesn't have kids with them? Again, if having kids gave u a filling life, that great but pls do not be shaming others just because they don't want the same thing as u. Having kids is a choice that people make, not something that everyone should be forced to do just because it's fullied someone else's life
@overlordfemto7523 Well I'm 40 with no kids (by choice. Got my tubes tied the day before my 31st birthday. I've NEVER wanted kids or a family), been with my man for 13 going on 14 years, I've had a cat I love with all my heart for the past 10 years, and I have my mom and my stepfather as my supportive family and I'd say I'm pretty content with my life so speak for yourself. Not everybody has to have kids, be in a relationship, get married or work a 9-5 job or be a stay at home mom to be happy. Everybody's path in life is different. There is no one "right path." Your comment is very ignorant.
it is ridiculous to pretend to be a race on Halloween!! Indian is a CULTURE, A RACE, A WHOLE SET OF PEOPLE.... NOT A HALLOWEEN DRESS (saying this is as an Indian btw!) An ethnicity is not a fashion style or a costume!
@@anti-usernamesaltaccount3623tbh tho, I think "white dad at a backyard barbeque" would be really funny as a costume. Burger flipper, "kiss the chef" apron, dad sandals, and a belt of condiments... Plus making constant dad jokes all night.
I still cringe thinking of when I was little and my mom dressed me up in a red Chinese dress (more modern style, not that it makes it any better) and did my hair up in decorative chopsticks. Just... augh
The “biologically trans” thing is actually false,, and can sometimes be harmful rhetoric. (Meaning the suggestion that a pre-transition person can be tested if they are trans) Someone can be trans or transition for whatever reason they may have, (including consideration for intersex and nonbinary genders) and there is no way of measuring or testing for if they are “legitimate” or not. It is up to the individuals comfort and how they feel to identify. A trans or cis person can have all range of biological signs as the other. Thanks for the video
Yeah I get what Kiwi is saying but it's sad that one of the most common defenses of trans people is "well they're more biologically similar to their actual gender than to their assigned gender so that makes them valid!!" Like... Cis people don't have to get scans of their brains so that people take them seriously. Trans people shouldn't have to either, whether or not the defense is true or false.
yup, that's why we need extensive therapy before we're allowed to medically transition. I've noticed that many detransitioners (especially the transphobic ones) have said they were rushed through the process or/and that they were in a bad place and thought transitioning would fix that. We only have the "gender dysphoria" diagnoses, which isn't even always correct, or enough.
Agreed, although it’s still a valid talking point that trans people’s brains often trend towards looking different from the typical cis brains of their assigned sex
I mean but a lot of the detransitioners are straight up liars and plants. It's been proven a few different times that famous detransitioners are lying. And even if you do transition and then detransition, gender dysphoria is not something a lot of cis people experience naturally. I know many cis people who have never once questioned their gender. Meanwhile I was three running around in heels saying I wanted to be a pretty girl. As for extensive therapy, I have to disagree because some people are different. I knew from a young age. I think for surgery on people under 18, sure. I feel like kids should be allowed to start puberty blockers first at least. Even hormones have reversible effects (besides trans men having their voices drop but that can be solved through voice training) It's just that not allowing people to transition and grow in bodies they hate festers.
That guy saying he “immediately knew” that the person in the video was a girl would change his tune very quickly if the person said that they had a penis (or any male sex characteristic for that matter).
@overlordfemto7523 you’d think so, but anti-trans “transvestigators” have made themselves a meme by hilariously not being able to tell when someone obviously isn’t a man. In fact, they often falsely accuse each other of secretly being trans. There was even a famous case of a transvestigator accusing JK Rowling, the king of the terfs, of being a trans woman.
I appreciate this video and I like your videos a lot, but I do feel the need to say that there is a lot of contention regarding "male" and "female" brains, and saying that someone has a "masculine" or "feminine" brain actually winds up leading to more transphobia (by seeing male and female as a dichotomy rather than a spectrum), and many of the studies regarding the difference lean heavily into misogyny and don't actually see a large difference between sexes, rather than a difference in empathy between different people.
Its a psychological fact though.the male and female brain-to-asab thing is a fact. You can't get rid of that,I'm sorry that the fact that our brains don't always line up with our assigned sex angers you but that's something you need to work on.its not transphobic,it's just a fact.
@@missvoorhees7964 We called it misogynistic too, which it is. There's no such thing as a female or male brain. Brains don't revolve around our sex past hormones, which are quite easy to change, might I add. If you actually knew your science you'd know that a lot of medicine is built on racism and misogyny and plenty of these irrefutable facts just might be sorta flawed because they were made by biased actors who were quite selective in how they tested data. This is just another attempt to say females are below males, another example of how society is misogynistic and most feminists buy into it and fail to truly advocate for the abolition of patriarchy.
It's wild to me that people act like drag is this new age millennial thing when drag is one of the oldest and most significant art forms in western culture, and is just as significant in many other cultures
by the name of it, i thought the group would consist of women funnily being tired of themselves and going "why am i like this 😭". like certified trixie's "i love myself but i hate the way i am moments". but boy was i wrong
it's crazy that nobody bats an eye if a man plays a female character on tv, but when it comes to drag queens, it's "horrible"
fr and like almost all of the man playing female are misogynistic like 'female=dumb hahaha'
I’m sayinnnn
1: New thing = Scary
2: Ignorance leads to hatred
They will never attend a drag show so they will continue to misunderstand them.
The only way to fight this is education and representation. Exposure to people unlike you makes you realize everyone *IS* like you.
Sorry, I'm prolly preaching to the choir down here.
its quite telling that they seem to have no issues when men play women on tv/shows in a way that’s meant to mock women, but when its a drag queen for a fashion show its suddenly an issue
the funniest thing to me is when the “we can tell” crowd tries to call me out as a trans woman when i’m just a cis woman with masculine features 😭😭😭
oh and also a great example of a man who ACTUALLY pretends to be a woman to make a joke out of women? stephen crowder
Real!
Especially how it often gets racist cause gender is often racialized
What does Stephen crowder do
I've never met those people, and I don't post my face on the internet due to insecurity, but I'm confident they'd think I was a man.
@@jadamiller7485I would probably be confused for a guy too but sometimes I've had men say I was attractive too it really depends on there taste too not that they really have any but some of them will say stuff to me like, "looking for a good time?" As they drive by and other ones have confused me for a guy too because of my large nose.
I'm not conventionally attractive and when your not conventionally attractive you will get all sorts of weird comments like that so he can either start sucking or leave me alone if they think I'm a dude.
The real question should not be is she a man? The real question should be why are you out here stalking trans women in the first place sir? Just because I find women more attractive than men doesn't mean I went out and changed my gender some guys are sick in the head like that where they pick on the girls they find attractive they think that by insulting you it will make you like them.
It doesn't because there trying to get you to lower your standards for them so that they will have easier access to you. The reason why I know this is because there's this woman I know of that's getting married to a man and she dresses exactly like a man too.they see her as some kind of placeholder and if they really think you look ugly like that they would probably want to tie you down and marry you so that you don't try to date anyone else if your to attractive they will always want to discard you because a really attractive feminine looking woman would make them more nervous then just a standard 1950s house wife type of woman that wears bland or modest clothing.
They don't want you to be the prize and if you really are hot they will pick on you a lot not just a little bit or once in awhile.
Well I fit the description to a T of the ppl they want in that group. Yet here I am😅
The "40% aren't the father" thing starting at 14:41 had me yelling "self-selection bias!" at the screen. And then you explained exactly that. 😀
Fr, I was like.... bish, that's like saying 40% of people have tried fent when you work at a drug rehabilitation center [insert distant screeching of ya boy losing his goddamn mind]
"40%" OF PEOPLE WHO CHECK. 40% of people who already feel uncertain enough to check.
Don't forget that it's an argument like "the dog of my friends works at the clinic" which basically means "trust me bro". So it's not even 40% probably.
Aaah self selection bias. Thats the name of it.
I also love the "Racism not allowed" in the rules, followed by "indians"
I am terrified to think of these people's definition of "racism."
@@ChaosTheoriesLuxeSame 💀
1:47 Oh yeah the classic “I’m not calling myself a feminist but I believe in equal rights” and “Feminism has become a supremacist movement.”
Which is funny because if any feminist groups can be said to hate men, it's the older waves of feminists 😂
shoeonhead mentality
Well, 5% have become like that. But they aren't really feminist, they only call themselves that.
@overlordfemto7523 Why?
@overlordfemto7523 when we define gender and sex on ideas that aren’t supported in WORLD history and WORLD religions you fail to have an open mind. as it’s not a fair to then be transphobic in those systems that humans made up based off things we saw commonly happening.
trans people ahve appeared through out history, as well in many religions, such as native americans(third spirits i think), with mainly the newer translations of christian (and abrahamic regions) religions that were so transfixed on the idea of gender roles. Since it came from the time where Rome was established, and worked with male led government basically, and the bible was only put in place due to the roman emperor putting it together when they decided to stop murdering Christians and making martyrs. So take a step back from where you are in this trans argument, and think about why we even created sex and gender to begin with and think about how it benefit and hurts you and those around you.
This all feels really "Pick me girl all grown up."
Fr
seeing 'memes' of women being stereotyped as constantly oppresed by their bosses makes me laugh cuz my mom works for herself and has a property management company 💀
My mum is a manager of thousands of people and her boss is a woman
@@pierrebugblatter awesome! (> v
For some reason that reminded me of a scene from the OG Roseanne with Jackie, so in my head it's like "I'm not even allowed a sick day, let alone a vacation..." "But you work for yourself!" "I know... these are MY rules..."
9:47 Even if you think that your gender is the same as genitals, you still can't tell what their gender is. At least i hope you're not looking at peoples genitals when you first meet them
And the thing is, not all intersex conditions present with ambiguous genitalia at birth. LOTS of us don't find out we're intersex until we're adults. It seems like every year I read about another medical student who finds out they're intersex by doing genetic testing as part of their classwork. Genes, gonadal tissue, hormones, and external appearance are all factors that go into determining sex, and yet these chuckleheads are always out there trying to pretend it's a simple, obvious binary.
Some people really do, it's weird
One of the really interesting facts of the world is that there is a living set of conjoined twins where one is a woman and the other is a trans man. They are conjoined at the skull and share brain matter.
There is a lot of aspects about our brain that are abstract and difficult to quantify, and our gender is one of them. It’s an example of how complicated and diverse humans are and it’s beautiful.
I saw an underwear mannequin (no head/limbs) in Target that had back/side rolls & it made me gasp in glee!! I wish there had been options like that when I was growing up & it filled my heart to see that! ❤ diversity matters so much.
I had a similar situation where I almost cried realizing I could put "X" on my passport instead of being forced to use my birth gender. Diversity seriously has an effect and even little things can make big impacts.
exactly. clothes are made to fit people, not the other way around
13:00 “you think sex is for “fun””??? are they okay?
RIGHT? This was the point that got me the most, that's so sad
Ok... But I'm not surprised that a place that does paternity tests would have a high rate of not the father results. Like there's a bit of a selection bias naturally occuring here.
Like most of your clients are possibly dealing with some sort of infidelity or some other type of family stuff.
Like you're not going to have people in happy marriages without any extramarital sex or adoption or something if your services are related to finding out of two people are really related or not.
i love being the blue haired weirdo everyone always brings up 🖤
Yes 💯🌈
same 😔✊
My mom doesn't respect that I'm a man. She's straight up told me she resents me for not being a girl.
Guess who's not part of my life anymore.
I had the most frustrating argument about sex work being work, I merely said that I wouldn’t be interested in it but that I’m also not interested in being a plumber or an accountant. The other person then went on a weird rant about those jobs needing qualifications, which by their logic any job that doesn’t require a higher education (be it uni or a trade school) doesn’t count? I do dislike people sometimes.
Ah, we know the culprit now, classism. That's not surprising, SWERFs are usually also classist and discriminate against the poorest of us for not being great "examples of female excellence".
Cis straight transphobic men love Rome... In Rome, women weren't allowed to perform on stage, and the feminine parts were played by men dressed in wigs, feminine clothing and jewelry, and makeup. Aka, ancient drag. They support ancient drag.
For some reason, those men get real upset and defensive and sputtery when you point this out.
I would like to argue that as a trans man I pretend to be a woman every day lol. (I’m not out yet)
hehe real =3
I felt that agony (genderfluid my parents are just in denial)
see and this is the gag they dont get ( im also a trans guy)
genderfluid and still closeted here, I'm fine presenting fem most of the time but my chest has to go lol
It's funny and hypocritical that they despise women, yet they are women themselves. And cute animal earings.
Well Kiwi did say that some of the participants of the group are men… but yeah your pount is still very valid
@@Hana_H Funny how every single comment and post featured during the video are from women. 11:28 20:08 20:59 22:31 26:17 but you know, it's just a bunch of men being mysogynistic.
@@Divert486 I said "some of" the participants. Plus I don´t think the few posts Kiwi has talked about can be taken as telling enough of how many women and how many men post there
Me talking about Facebook groups as a concept: “She’s a life ruiner. She ruins people’s lives.”
This has become my comfort channel omg
real ong
17:30 hear me out, I agree it’s unfair to assume that women are cheating, but I do agree that there should be a mandatory DNA test FOR BOTH PARENTS to make sure that the hospital didn’t give you the wrong baby
Also stricter regulations on sperm and egg donors
I see your point, but statistically, that is such a rare occurrence, that it just doesn’t make sense to use public funds on it. If it were, say, an illness, that affected
@@ThatBookGirl exactly and whether or not the partner cheated is a personal matter, the government and laws cannot be interfering in personal matters, we already have therapists and counsellors to deal with such instances.
Hospital bracelets are put on like right after birth. Accidents happen but it's a lot rarer than it used to be for someone to be sent home with the wrong newborn.
26:30 . Nobody is forcing you to vote. If you want to be a traditional wife with a traditional man, you can do so, without taking stuff away from other women. It’s not rocket science .
I agree, but they’re hypocrites because they’ll still vote anyways. It’s just to push the narrative that “telling people to vote is mean” or something else ridiculous, can’t remember because it wasn’t clever.
"all I want is dignity and respect, the rest can be ditched honestly"
Says the woman who would willingly give up her dignity and respect.
They just hate on transgender women . Just sad. But cis men are ok. Like wtf??
Ah, but you see, men are dangerous, unless they're men! No, wait... fuck... hmm...
There is no consistent logic to hate, that's rule 1 of hate
It was never a men infiltrating womens spaces thing, it was only meant to keep trans women away from safe spaces so they could be harmed, just so the cis can stay in power.
It's so telling it's scary
The biggest factor in escaping domestic abuse is *Financial Independence*. Do not give up control over your own money, even for someone you trust and love. Abusive spouses tend to show their true colours once they feel you are unable to leave them, trapped with no funds to survive on your own.
How does one become "aggressively childless"?
I think it's just.. being single with no kids and posting about it? Idk tho, not one of these absolute slugs
Thanks for making this video!! I really wanted to address this! Thanks for making people more aware! Lotz of love to you! xoxo and as for the dumb argument they make that a woman is a slave in the corporate world, bc she works for a male boss, then in that case men are also slaves in the corporate world to other men! hence their argument falls flat. smh.
Bro...that list said "you think sex is fun" is your sex not fun? That says a lot about you....
For real, the government couldn’t waterboard that out of me 😭
asexuals pov
If you want to do multiple videos about these groups/keep that account under the radar i would avoid reading out your group-joining questionnaire answers word for word/showing them. if i remember correctly they can bring it back up, and ban your account from the group/"expose" it as you to similar groups you may want to "infiltrate" (they do word it like this..)
My great aunt had a deathbed confession about their oldest son and my great uncle was like “ok lol”
On the DNA test one I do think there’s one take that I slightly agree on!
Basically, a guy said that he thinks he’d do it with his kid since he’s worried about baby mixups in the hospital
And honestly? I get that one.
Queer Kiwi tries to film a video without any stuffed animals falling off the back of the couch (challenge level: impossible)
Yeah the testing one is clearly just like survival bias. Its not survival bias but its a similar one i dont remember the name of. Where the bias results because the only people doing the test are skewed.
Edit: the name is self selection bias. Another commenter remembered.
My opinion on this topic is that if it’s not you, your body, or doesn’t involve you, why do you care so much about what I do? If I was trans let me be trans I’m not shoving my imaginary body parts in your face, if I’m gay im not forcing you to join me. If you don’t like tomatoes and I do I’m not going to force you to eat them. Everyone has a right to there own opinion at the end of the day though. And I can’t force anyone to change there views, no matter if I think there’s are wrong or right because everyone has a different moral compass. And that’s what makes everyone human I guess.
About the not knowing someone's gender one around the 10:20 mark:
My oldest sibling is enby and when they're out most of the time people assume they are the opposite gender to what they were "born as" so it just goes to show people really don't know and can't tell because gender is just a construct so there's really no one way to be a gender we all just identify as we want and present as we feel comfortable.
0:35 I’m here for the Undercover Assignment Anecdotes.
Id personally get too jealous if i was dating a current SW because i would consider it cheating, but i agree they deserve to be happy with a partner/marrige if that is what they want
lol. Sex workers don’t want to date insecure people like you anyways hun.
i feel the same way, i feel like i'd get jealous and they deserve to be with someone who wouldn't feel that way. it's just all about communication and being open with your wants and needs
1:00 Dude, it’s OK. You don’t need to do so much for the content. Don’t torture yourself for us.
so would trans men be invited to the women's space and not trans women? LOL
No, because they don't actually want that. These people only want to erase trans people from public life, they don't really care about holding consistent or logical beliefs
Probably not since they're transphobic all around.
another great video 🖤🖤 facebook is crazy lmao cant believe one of them actually said she'd give up her vote, literally one of the most important fundamental rights in a democratic country. if that's not pick-me behavior idk what is
19:39 Calvin Klein plus size clothes slap. You would never guess it from the way they used to be, but they actually size up very well.
We need to teach feminist history to everyone. It would honestly fix a lot of the misogyny we have. Same with teaching the history of all marginalized groups. Though let’s be real, that’s why they don’t teach us.
14:40 - I used to work in clinical genetics (where incidentally we try to avoid determining paternity unless it's clinically relevant, such as strengthening evidence that a variant is de novo or appears in a parent, because we don't want incidental findings), the rate of misattributed paternity is absolutely nowhere near 40%. The true rate is closer to 1%, and has been falling in the last century thanks to many of the social changes that conservatives decry, like access to contraceptives and easier divorce allowing women to leave loveless and/or abusive relationships.
People who are seeking paternity testing obviously have a reason to be seeking it, which can be knowledge of an affair, an inconsistent phenotype, or the presumed father is a paranoid control freak whose partner possibly resents him enough to seek affection elsewhere, hence the high rates of missattributed paternity seen in DNA testing centres. It's like looking at the rates of cancer in the general population by considering the rates of cancer found when testing people who have symptoms.
I joined this group on my fb before I deleted it. A made a comment on something that read “what no pussy does to a mf” and this guy who has done voice acting in resident evil games commented and was coming for me. He was like “SO WHAT DO YOU WANT? DO YOU WANT MEN TO HAVE VALUE BASED ON SEXUAL PARTNERS OR DOES BODY COUNT NOT MATTER?” I didn’t reply and just laughed reacted him. Bro kept on commenting after bc he was fuming. He ended up making a passive aggressive post about me hours later that got no traction. This man also has trouble dating- surprise, surprise. If you see him in that group, he a light skinned bald headed black guy 😭 he’s super active so idk if he has a life.
Percentages are hard 😹
babe queer KiWi has posted
They will let men I'm but not transwomen wow
oh noes the bunny fell
for real i been saying if you as a woman think you shouldn't be allowed to vote why are you expressing your opinion? i thought since you're a woman your opinion doesn't matter?
Kiwi really lost me at the bit about sex workers. There’s a difference between destigmatizing and glorifying. It doesn’t make someone insecure to not want to date a sex worker. Most can’t separate home life and work life if they’re literally having sex for money. And unless they’re in the top percentile I guarantee they are not happier and wealthier than most people. That doesn’t make them less of a person, but it’s dangerous to lie about stuff like this.
What I’m confused about is what they think being red pilled is? Cause isn’t one of the rules not to be a red pill, but most of these posts seem like they’re red pulled.
13:10 Number 13 is HILARIOUS. 😂 Fellas, is it gay to be a woman?
The 40% is really funny to me, since that means 60% of men who think they aren't the father (to what? get out child support? blame their partner?) ARE the father in fact and are just trying to make drama
Im sorry, im much into politics so can someone please explain how someone can be liberal but not feminist and pro trans???
I had a stroke reading this I don’t know either 😭
New video !!
I keep getting trump adds on Queer Kiwi videos and I’m so confused
I'm curious to know what the enlighten audience of RUclips thinks about enjoying Japanese kimono-appropriation or appreciation, or does it depend on the circumstances. e.g. whether the person in question has "done their research" vs. anime vs. unresearched/noob attempt?
I mean... it's not like other girls supporting not like other girls... does it count as a twisted version of women supporting women?
(Not for serious. They aren't that.)
I love how they think all housewives/SAHMs are "submissive" and "serve" their husbands. The actual definition of a breadwinner/homemaker relationship is one partner doing paid work to support the household and the other partner taking care of running the household, domestic work, raising kids, etc. Not every couple who live like that are into that trad/religious submission crap lol. My mom was a SAHM and both she and my dad are the most liberal feminist hippies you'll meet. Neither of them considered what my mom did "submitting" or "serving" because not everyone sees the world through the lens of these weirdly gendered power dynamics. Miss me with that nonsense.
Men hate on AsexuaI women too 😂
the difference that alot of these ppl dont seem to understand is the accessibility to the money. when you work and bring income. u have a say in where the money goes, use it to buy things u want and etc.
alot of stay at home moms and women, dont have this accessibility. they have no say in what the money is used for. and in our capitalist society- where accessibility to money equals freedom,,, ☹
its such a privileged and ignorant thing to just compare a corporate job to stay at home. at least when you work, u get the freedom to do whatever u want with ur money. unlike alot of stay at home women (and men) who dont have that.
where did you get your leebit pillow? every time i go anywhere it's sold out or it's knockoff and poorly done:( love the video though:)
10:09 me being that cis person
GURL WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR BEAUTIFUL OUTRO MUSIC?? 😢
Well, at least there’s no racism allowed that’s nice……….. At least it’s nice in a world where we have to settle for less.
It does make me wonder tho, if that rule is only there so facebook doesn't ban the whole group
“ Guys, racism is bad, and it is distracting us from the real enemy. *women.* “
I've decided to call "gender reveal parties" Sex Shows. Far more accurate and literally what they are.
Love your content
26:35 omfglol
We're all glad you enjoyed your stay :D
I feel like with trans things (as a trans person) why do yall care so much? It takes 0 effort to respect people's decisions. If you dont agree with someones life style, leave them alone? I don't agree that being vegan is the only way to live and is morally superior, so do i make a video shaming my vegan friends? Make a 45 minute rant video about it while claiming not to care? If these people didnt care half as much as they say they don't, they would keep to themselves.
The no outro music 😢
Problem 1. "You aren't a wealth builder."
Problem 2. "You're too focused on your career."
My dude what's the career for if not like, making money stacking fucking paper and you know building wealth. (I hate the phrase building wealth because it tries to dignify a fundamentally vulgar thing we must all do to survive under capitalism, stack fucking paper.)
I’m in this group. And I’m a liberal feminist and they know that. I’ve had many good conversations in there. Most of the content isn’t misogynistic. Some guys in there are, but the majority of the group are pretty cool.
Lying is a sin
Lmao your fake Facebook
8 hours ago
Not everyone who doesnt want to date a sex worker is insecure.
No dip
I have a question... please enlighten me or help me understand...
Yes capitalism is a negative thing and in many ways associated with patriarchy or better say toxic masculinity... But, isn't it to some extent because of capitalism we can see double income family where both men and women are earning now? Earlier it was only men being the breadwinners and women the stay at home , homemakers or parents... The gender role division was more clear without capitalism, hence patriarchy was more rampant??? So are women earning because they are forced to due to capitalism, but not for financial independence of themselves and so that they don't have to depend upon men for their livelihood?? So if capitalism is finished will women go back to home making ( traditional PATRIARCHAL gender role)? And men will be the sole breadwinners again? Because that's how it was in a pre capitalistic society I guess? Wasn't it more patriarchal? So isn't women's financial independence important? Doesn't capitalism in a way help on women being financially independent or earning? Because definitely "women being financially dependent upon men" is one of the strongest pillars holding on to patriarchal societal power structure? Without capitalism, will women earn equally with men? Or will the traditional patriarchal gender role come back ? Please help me understand...even if men say they are forced to go to work... And still men don't give birth to children and don't go through the biological investment and post partum,breastfeeding healing of the body etc as women do .. so will men become stay at home parents? And women choose to earn in a non capitalist society?
But in any way... Individual financial independence is getting lost in that way... One spouse have to depend upon the other for their livelihood...and it's risky at any situation, specially for women, when they have a kid to raise... As we have already seen in so many divorce cases around the world...
To be fair, while capitalist principles have helped women, in that they could start businesses and make money and things like that… capitalism isn’t the reason women have more rights now. Capitalism isn’t new, it’s existed for a very long time, and patriarchy has existed along with it. And because people in power (like heads of corporations and government officials) were mainly men, patriarchy became so intwined with capitalism that it can be hard to separate the two now. As such I think capitalism, as it stands now, will still hurt women because it is a system that has been manipulated to mainly cater to men. And to be fair, most countries do not exist a completely, 100% capitalist country. Anytime the government regulates industries, then it strays further from capitalistic principles, which can be a good thing! For example, affirmative action in companies or schools can be seen as a major reason women and people of color have access to those spaces now. Since the government regulates it, then it’s not a capitalist action.
I think women’s rights isn’t tied to the economic system of a country or society, but the societal systems in place. Take Sparta for example, it wasn’t a capitalistic nation, but their women were viewed as more equal and were allowed to hold jobs and fight in battle alongside men. There are several other civilizations that didn’t have capitalism but had better gender equality.
I’m not entirely for completely removing capitalism, cuz I know that there are good aspects of it. But I do believe that we should start to include more aspects of other economic systems that can make reduce the consequences of capitalism and better serve society. Because if we can minimize the consequences of our economic systems, then we can focus on making other aspects of life better for everyone, including women. And that way, everyone can make financial and social decisions that actually work best for them instead of just because they can’t afford to do something else (like someone choosing not to be a stay at home parent even if they want to or someone choosing a job they hate because it pays better or because they think they’re supposed to).
You immediately failed. "Men are the bread winners and women stay at home" is SPECIFICALLY A SMALL TIME PERIOD AFTER WORLD WAR 2. You're a fool
DNA test cost around 200$, it’s not that expensive.
200$ just to know what your ancestry is? thats a absolute ripoff edit: just was scrolling through comments since the video wouldnt load, nvm, i know which dna test you meant now, but still the fact you have to spend 200$ so that you get basic info like if the child is even yours is insane
@@wenofu477 I’m not trying to be rude. But if you can’t afford 200$ for a DNA test you have other problems in your life.
@@LonelyRogue18182its not that one cant absolutely afford it, its that such simple and important knowledge costs as much as buying a switch lite
just move to north korea already
??
I am in that group and I am a woman
Never seen something misogynistic
Lying is a sin
You must be the main character then since only your view point matters
@overlordfemto7523 No believing in only 2 sexes is sinning. God makes no mistakes. There are the males, females and the intersex.
Griffith fanboy.
Did you just assume the gender of everyone that looks like a male in that group? Sounds like you don't hold yourself to your own standards.
invalid point. next
Maybe dont make it obvious that you're a pig then
@@uwu-owo666 This is exactly the level of dialogue i expected. Thanks!
Ok sometimes that happens
Even to the most well meaning people
The problem is induce when someone corrects you on the identity and people refuse to respect you and give you shit for it
Kiwi is not one of those people
So where is your valid point, exactly?
its literally a requirement of the group to be transphobic before they let you enter, nobody in there is gonna be defying gender roles to that controversial a degree lol
You are so removed from reality I hope you get the help you need
Just because someone is "removed from reality" doesn't necessarily mean they need help or that they are ill
Reality is a fairly subjective experience:
Yes we all live on the same physical plane with physical actions and reactions
But reality itself is not actually real; it's actually not a definable concept; it's just an idea
Reality is actually created in the mind and therefore grows, expands, and changes
You should look up philosopher Alan Watts
You can neither prove nor disprove that reality is actually real
I can neither prove nor disprove that reality is actually real
And that's exactly the point
@@diamondgirl698 but you can prove what is real and what is fake. What is true and what is false through observation and science
these people have an actual aversion to being a genuinely kind person
I’ve never understood women hating women. I’m a closeted trans man so most people I’m around still see me as a woman. (Parents, teachers, family members, co-workers, ect.) I’ve heard conversations of women in my life talking about how some women should just stop complaining about life because they, and I quote, “Don’t have life that hard if they look like that.” Referring to women who seem to look as if they are more confident and actor their own bodies. My own mother has tried to convince me to marry a man who works while I stay home and take care of kids, even after I had told her I don’t think I’m ment to have kids. Most people around me are conservative and think that a traditional life is a good life, women does all the home work, men gets the all money, woman pleases the man. These same people have told me that women are not facing any issues and that they should just mind their own business?? This truly does confuse me a lot and I just don’t understand why people think like this. I understand wanting to do your own thing I just don’t understand hating on other when they do their own thing.
(Edit. Thank you to everyone in the replies wishing me good luck and understanding what I'm going though! To everyone, trans or not, who has or is experiencing the same things as me, I wish you all the love in my heart!
goodluck on the whole trans thing, hopefully in the near future we have a society where people dont feel the need to be "closeted" out of fear of *x* thing
I can understand why you’re closeted if these are people in your environment. :( It must feel pretty risky to be yourself.
kudos to you sweetheart, you deserve to be you.
You're just undercover rn, hope you can be loud and proud when you want to, man. With how heavily women are critiqued on every little thing, putting others down for fitting/not fitting in with stereotypes ultimately occurs within the oppressed group. It sucks to see people tearing each other down further as a result of misogyny
Be yourself. Come out.
Im writing a paper for my master's on the "gender critical" movement and i have to read through all of these UK based anti-feminist and anti-lgbtq+ groups. I feel your disgust at answering the questions and putting yourself into the shoes of these people. It's so icky.
But they're not anti feminist, after all, they call themselves feminist! /s
Damn I would go insane if I had to read all that.
@@WhiteWolf496 I've narrowed it down to 3 major organization's documents they've published (because I only have a couple of weeks to write the paper and a full quantitative or qualitative social media analysis would have been a much longer project, possibly YEARS long for a PhD or a post-doc paper) but yeah it's pretty sickening! A guy who did a PhD thesis on incels did FOUR YEARS of covert social media information gathering and he told me to take lots of mental health breaks when doing this kind of research on very bigoted orgs or groups. I'd definitely agree with him.
As an Enby I hate living here. Almost as much as the “why don’t you leave?”
oh im sure you already know but i would definitely recommend Contrapoint's videos on Gender Criticals for your paper. Like some amazing videos she made on gender critical ideas and terfs are titled Gender Critical, Jk Rowling, and The Witch Trials of Jk Rowling.
People like this really be like "HOW DARE THEY MAKE CLOTHES FOR OVERWEIGHT PEOPLE! THEY SHOULD BE LEFT TO SUFFER WITH SLIMMER CLOTHES! GRR" It's baffling how little sense it makes to be fatphobic, or any kind of discrimination to be honest
And perfumes has got to be gendered for whatever reason and say "perfume for men" or "perfume for women"
it's literally just hating on fat ppl for existing lmao. will never get why people having the audacity to do literally anything while fat is so enraging to some people
Lol tell them "Okay fine, I guess they all will just wear their birthday suits then" and see them lose their minds
And at the same time, if you go in to pretty much any Wal-Mart in the U.S. and try to find a XS, you probably will have a hard time. Because stores will cater to their clientele and carry what sells. Most people in the U.S. are overweight or obese by the numbers. There is a lot of fat shaming on the internet, and I wonder where that comes from.
There would have to be some level of hypocrisy here. Numberswise.
@@sumatrannosone of my biggest pet peeves is gendered fragrances
if there were a the queer kiwi bingo the plushies falling at least once per video would be one of the spaces
True😂 free space?
@@chinemapicturesfree space is rainbow hair :)
Them talking about kids genitals is concerning
I will never understand woman hating women. Like if u want a "tradition" marriage with a husband and kids, go for it, but don't shit on the rest of us who may not want those things. This goes for everyone: There's no one size fits all for life & what we choose to do with it should be our decision & not someone else telling us what we can & can't do or shaming us for not wanting the same things as them. We should be lifting each other up to achieve whatever gives our life fulliment without bringing others down for wanting different things in life. Also I want to note how fatphobic it is to want models to only be one size. It's part of the reason I started shopping in the men's section because not only was the clothing more comfortable but I didn't have to deal with the extra stress of getting something that ended up not fitting because it was tailored to only one body type
@overlordfemto7523 For u, it is wonderful, but that is not the case for everyone. This kind of shaming results in kids getting abused, neglected, and even in some cases abandoned. It also puts a heavy financial burden on people when they are either not ready for kids yet or don't want them. Also, u don't know what kind of medicine people are on (if any) & why they're on those medications, so u shouldn't make the claim that they're depresed & taking medicines because they don't want kids & it's horrible that u make such a claim. Not to mention that I can only imagine the horror on someone's face if u said this to them after they had recently had a miscarriage because u made the assumption about them. Or what about if their kids are in daycare or at school? Are u going to make this claim to every person u see who doesn't have kids with them? Again, if having kids gave u a filling life, that great but pls do not be shaming others just because they don't want the same thing as u. Having kids is a choice that people make, not something that everyone should be forced to do just because it's fullied someone else's life
@overlordfemto7523 Well I'm 40 with no kids (by choice. Got my tubes tied the day before my 31st birthday. I've NEVER wanted kids or a family), been with my man for 13 going on 14 years, I've had a cat I love with all my heart for the past 10 years, and I have my mom and my stepfather as my supportive family and I'd say I'm pretty content with my life so speak for yourself. Not everybody has to have kids, be in a relationship, get married or work a 9-5 job or be a stay at home mom to be happy. Everybody's path in life is different. There is no one "right path." Your comment is very ignorant.
it is ridiculous to pretend to be a race on Halloween!! Indian is a CULTURE, A RACE, A WHOLE SET OF PEOPLE.... NOT A HALLOWEEN DRESS (saying this is as an Indian btw!) An ethnicity is not a fashion style or a costume!
Yeah, like next halloween I'll dress up as a white man.
@@aldenpartridge4773make sure to carry a bottle of mayonnaise
@@anti-usernamesaltaccount3623tbh tho, I think "white dad at a backyard barbeque" would be really funny as a costume. Burger flipper, "kiss the chef" apron, dad sandals, and a belt of condiments... Plus making constant dad jokes all night.
@@ruby-fx2eo but halloween is not about dressing up as normal people lol it si about dressing up as scary creatures, but ngl your idea sounds funny.
I still cringe thinking of when I was little and my mom dressed me up in a red Chinese dress (more modern style, not that it makes it any better) and did my hair up in decorative chopsticks. Just... augh
The “biologically trans” thing is actually false,, and can sometimes be harmful rhetoric. (Meaning the suggestion that a pre-transition person can be tested if they are trans) Someone can be trans or transition for whatever reason they may have, (including consideration for intersex and nonbinary genders) and there is no way of measuring or testing for if they are “legitimate” or not. It is up to the individuals comfort and how they feel to identify. A trans or cis person can have all range of biological signs as the other. Thanks for the video
Yeah I get what Kiwi is saying but it's sad that one of the most common defenses of trans people is "well they're more biologically similar to their actual gender than to their assigned gender so that makes them valid!!" Like... Cis people don't have to get scans of their brains so that people take them seriously. Trans people shouldn't have to either, whether or not the defense is true or false.
yup, that's why we need extensive therapy before we're allowed to medically transition. I've noticed that many detransitioners (especially the transphobic ones) have said they were rushed through the process or/and that they were in a bad place and thought transitioning would fix that. We only have the "gender dysphoria" diagnoses, which isn't even always correct, or enough.
Agreed, although it’s still a valid talking point that trans people’s brains often trend towards looking different from the typical cis brains of their assigned sex
I mean but a lot of the detransitioners are straight up liars and plants. It's been proven a few different times that famous detransitioners are lying. And even if you do transition and then detransition, gender dysphoria is not something a lot of cis people experience naturally. I know many cis people who have never once questioned their gender. Meanwhile I was three running around in heels saying I wanted to be a pretty girl.
As for extensive therapy, I have to disagree because some people are different. I knew from a young age. I think for surgery on people under 18, sure. I feel like kids should be allowed to start puberty blockers first at least. Even hormones have reversible effects (besides trans men having their voices drop but that can be solved through voice training)
It's just that not allowing people to transition and grow in bodies they hate festers.
Moms for liberty also allows cisgender men to join despite crying about trans women being "men invading female spaces"
they also call trans men "women invading men's territory"
@overlordfemto7523 by what objective definition.
@overlordfemto7523 answer the question I asked you.
@overlordfemto7523 that was a very pathetic attempt at projection from you.
You can not answer my question.
@overlordfemto7523Lia Thomas also got beaten by other women, pretty misogynistic to say that anyone who is good at sports is not a woman.
That guy saying he “immediately knew” that the person in the video was a girl would change his tune very quickly if the person said that they had a penis (or any male sex characteristic for that matter).
Yep
@overlordfemto7523why do you care so much
@overlordfemto7523 you’d think so, but anti-trans “transvestigators” have made themselves a meme by hilariously not being able to tell when someone obviously isn’t a man. In fact, they often falsely accuse each other of secretly being trans. There was even a famous case of a transvestigator accusing JK Rowling, the king of the terfs, of being a trans woman.
I appreciate this video and I like your videos a lot, but I do feel the need to say that there is a lot of contention regarding "male" and "female" brains, and saying that someone has a "masculine" or "feminine" brain actually winds up leading to more transphobia (by seeing male and female as a dichotomy rather than a spectrum), and many of the studies regarding the difference lean heavily into misogyny and don't actually see a large difference between sexes, rather than a difference in empathy between different people.
I recommend reading the article "Neurosexism and Neurofeminism" by Ginger Hoffman and Robyn Bluhm if you want to know more fyi! :D
Yeah, I think it’s more important for us to recognize the variability between humans, regardless of gender.
Its a psychological fact though.the male and female brain-to-asab thing is a fact. You can't get rid of that,I'm sorry that the fact that our brains don't always line up with our assigned sex angers you but that's something you need to work on.its not transphobic,it's just a fact.
@@missvoorhees7964 We called it misogynistic too, which it is. There's no such thing as a female or male brain. Brains don't revolve around our sex past hormones, which are quite easy to change, might I add. If you actually knew your science you'd know that a lot of medicine is built on racism and misogyny and plenty of these irrefutable facts just might be sorta flawed because they were made by biased actors who were quite selective in how they tested data. This is just another attempt to say females are below males, another example of how society is misogynistic and most feminists buy into it and fail to truly advocate for the abolition of patriarchy.
The "Male and Female" brain thing also leaves out intersex and nonbinary folks too. There are no "Female" and "Male" brains, only brains.
It's wild to me that people act like drag is this new age millennial thing when drag is one of the oldest and most significant art forms in western culture, and is just as significant in many other cultures
I can't wait to tell them about Shakespearean plays
Homeboys gonna freak if he ever learns about Chinese opera 👀
Yeah my parents straight up said "no you're not trans" and wouldn't let me explain anything for a few years. I've moved out now and it's a big relief
The Calvin Klein commercial from 1993 doesn’t even show the clothes. It’s just an advertisement for abs.
i’m not on facebook often, but there’s a group where we all pretend to be ants in a colony. it’s pretty neato
There’s one where you can pretend to be ghosts! Or in the same neighborhood or school, it’s awesome
That post about costumes is wild i thought there was no racism allowed in the group
by the name of it, i thought the group would consist of women funnily being tired of themselves and going "why am i like this 😭". like certified trixie's "i love myself but i hate the way i am moments". but boy was i wrong