Why humans won against neanderthals | Yuval Noah Harari and Lex Fridman

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  • @LexClips
    @LexClips  Год назад +20

    Full podcast episode: ruclips.net/video/Mde2q7GFCrw/видео.html
    Lex Fridman podcast channel: ruclips.net/user/lexfridman
    Guest bio: Yuval Noah Harari is a historian, philosopher, and author of Sapiens, Homo Deus, 21 Lessons for the 21st Century, and Unstoppable Us.

    • @faroukabdellah4216
      @faroukabdellah4216 Год назад

      Hi Lex, this video shows again how much fundamentally igbnorant you are ! You're mostly an ignorant right winger !
      Why ? Coz :
      1- Neanderthal is/was a branch of Humanity.
      2- Neanderthal are a branch of the Sapiens Family and this branch is called Homo Sapiens Neanderthalensis.
      3- We didn't win over them, we married them, interbred with them and we have 20% of their maternal DNA in our genes currently. At least for those who are not from sub-saharian african.
      4-Homo Sapiens Neanderthalensis disappeared coz we ABSORBED them. We had too much sex with them whenever we met and we just absorbed them.
      5- Neanderthals are among our ancestors.
      My Gosh ! Please get the right informations ! You sound ignorant each time !

    • @RS-oq4wu
      @RS-oq4wu Месяц назад

      Clearly humans are the best survivors.
      Our only competitors are microbial.

  • @SpiceBoy7UK23
    @SpiceBoy7UK23 Год назад +529

    There is ONE PHYSICAL skill set that us Homo sapiens do far better than all the other species on earth and it's been proven : The Javelin Throw. In the early 2000's, there was an eccentric French player named Lizarazu who started a show where he compared humans and animals side by side in the same sport (basically, almost every sport at the olympics). It turns out that there is an animal that could beat us at absolutely everything except for the Javelin throw. The scientific explanation behind it is based on the muscles in our shoulder area. The other species on earth do not have the flexibility nor the elasticity necessary to achieve the distances or the precision we can on this specific throw. As most of you know, this was the essential physical skill used by primitive humans to kill four legged predators.

    • @jadomi2076
      @jadomi2076 Год назад +61

      Yes. I believe that homo sapiens are the only species that can attack and even kill, from a distance, while using tools/weapons. Giving an awesome advantage in survival.

    • @Oceanfreak6
      @Oceanfreak6 Год назад +70

      The javelin throw and long distance running are where humans reign supreme. No other animal even comes close

    • @zzzzzz69
      @zzzzzz69 Год назад +18

      We evolved to hunt for a long time, which makes eating meat so entrenched in our biology despite us being omnivores

    • @derbistheeternal2947
      @derbistheeternal2947 Год назад +11

      Long distance running

    • @zzzzzz69
      @zzzzzz69 Год назад +9

      @@jadomi2076 the same reason gave the Mongols the upper hand, and then later guns and so on

  • @garcon5916
    @garcon5916 Год назад +594

    “To know if you’re happy or not is a very difficult question but when you suffer you know”

    • @niclasnyberg4173
      @niclasnyberg4173 Год назад +17

      Don't look for happiness, it'll run further and faster than you if you insist on catching it, just try to achieve contentment and you just might

    • @mickydrippin3105
      @mickydrippin3105 Год назад +17

      That’s brilliant. I don’t know if im happy or ever have been , or i should say, i cant remember the last time I genuinely was. But i know when im suffering. I love that quote. Bravo.

    • @cliffdixon2042
      @cliffdixon2042 Год назад +6

      Happiness is living a life your prefer vs one you don't. The closer you are to living a life u prefer. The happier u are .the closer u are to living a life you don't prefer the less happy you are. Pretty simple

    • @dreimann
      @dreimann Год назад +6

      You'll own nothing, and you'll be happy!

    • @briannazarof9732
      @briannazarof9732 Год назад +1

      In the song Sundown, Gordon Lightfoot puts it well…sometimes i thinks its a shame, when i get feelin better when im feelin no pain.

  • @negationf6973
    @negationf6973 Год назад +52

    Yuval is a smart guy, talking about some high-levels ideas and concepts here. Great guest.

    • @Outlaw.Dharma
      @Outlaw.Dharma Год назад +6

      For reals, this guy was fuckin badass, I want him on again.

    • @FutureDictator69
      @FutureDictator69 Год назад

      He is a WEF cretin who considers you a useless eater

    • @jtjones4081
      @jtjones4081 Год назад

      Stories told by charismatic speakers with symmetrical faces shape human society.

    • @PepsiFuture
      @PepsiFuture Год назад

      Smart compared to the average person. Extremely stupid compared to his self-perception.

  • @chantalrochon3566
    @chantalrochon3566 Год назад +17

    Great conversation to listen to😊thank you!

  • @international-arms-dealer
    @international-arms-dealer 2 месяца назад

    how is "consciousness" or "suffering" the metric that warrants something protection?
    if a grizzly bear wants to eat you, but killing it before it can eat you causes it suffering, are we saying that we shouldn't do such a thing?

  • @neshetsenol1163
    @neshetsenol1163 Год назад +314

    "We fight over stories" is a very psychedelically refreshing way to look at things.

    • @wackyruss
      @wackyruss Год назад +21

      Yep! We fight over who’s magical fairy tales are the best magical fairy tales!

    • @kevineiford2153
      @kevineiford2153 Год назад +8

      Remember that money is a story

    • @mick900123
      @mick900123 Год назад +4

      memes - richard dawkins

    • @arktseytlin
      @arktseytlin Год назад

      ​@@kevineiford2153its not exactly just a story, its a record of debt. Debt is a story, but it is relevant in context of human relations

    • @paneko1
      @paneko1 10 месяцев назад +3

      While looking at believers in trump, which are still in millions, I think that we need to redefined what actually is a story.

  • @eldiablorojo1143
    @eldiablorojo1143 Год назад +7

    Is that Klaus Schwab puppet ? What a world we livin 😏

  • @sethskullsberg7787
    @sethskullsberg7787 Год назад +20

    Robot:"What is my purpose?"
    Rick Sanchez:"You serve us butter."
    Robot : "Oh my god"

  • @marouanebenkhadda5728
    @marouanebenkhadda5728 9 месяцев назад +88

    “We inflict suffer on millions of lives for the sake of a story, and that’s the tragedy of human kind” man that hit me hard

    • @appsenence9244
      @appsenence9244 3 месяца назад

      Just commenting to remind you of what hit you so hard 😂

    • @Republica33
      @Republica33 2 месяца назад

      Unable to see video. If he said that it makes zero sense. Other than...look at me, I'm so profound... Defeating Hitler was more than a story tale.

  • @hanni5862
    @hanni5862 6 месяцев назад +3

    I believe Billy Carson, more than this man, because Billy has the receipts

  • @iiii4024
    @iiii4024 4 месяца назад +5

    This guy is literally a big part of wef & wants you to eat bugs lol

  • @josequintero4770
    @josequintero4770 Год назад +12

    I love the black and white suit. Nobody Ware's it anymore.its cool.

  • @wiplash2000
    @wiplash2000 Год назад +10

    I think Lex is going to be the first recorded human to bang a robot.

    • @anthonyr251
      @anthonyr251 Год назад +4

      I don't know why this is as funny as it is 😂

    • @Andrei-un1cl
      @Andrei-un1cl 3 месяца назад +1

      You really think he'll record it?

    • @RasAlHaq
      @RasAlHaq 3 месяца назад

      He said he has Rumbas that scream when they bump into walls. So he's halfway there...

  • @dragnoc
    @dragnoc Год назад +18

    I often approach the idea of cognitive A.I. from the perspective that it would be the step-child of human society. While I think it will be extremely important for humans to know the difference between when they are interacting with another human and when it is an A.I., For the sake of our civilization. I perceive the greatest threat from A.I. to come from it being treated as an "other". From both our perspective and its own.
    "A child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth."

    • @gene8675
      @gene8675 Год назад

      Ah we're in multicult era there's no villages all hail gov. There's no cohesion in multicult societies.

    • @realmcafee
      @realmcafee Год назад

      @dragnoc Tell this to someone who operates on try and error and see how far you come^^

    • @alohatigers1199
      @alohatigers1199 Год назад +1

      The greatest threat is not AI, it always has been capitalism.
      The idea that while someone is successful, the other gets exploited. If we can train AI to detect corruption in our government, help homeless people and millions of people get out of poverty, etc.
      But that’s not going to happen, why? Because who funds AI? Who controls AI? Billionaires. They get to decide how AI should be used.
      And that’s the biggest threat.

    • @dragnoc
      @dragnoc Год назад

      @@realmcafee evolution implies that all life does that.

    • @dragnoc
      @dragnoc Год назад

      @alohatigers1199 I didn't state that it was the greatest threat total only that the greatest threat from it would be for it to view us as "other".

  • @user-fs8tl7ni1w
    @user-fs8tl7ni1w Год назад +2

    This person is NOT a scientist. His education is in history-he’s an expert in military and medieval history. So why does he opine well beyond his field of expertise? He just likes to hear himself talk (and make $$ from it by selling books, giving speeches, etc.).
    So we know why he does it, but why do we listen to him?
    Specifically, why do we give any attention to so-called public intellectuals who opine on subjects well beyond their education, training, and experience? This guy makes lots of money giving his vague opinions about nearly everything. Useless, except to his wallet. That’s my opinion.
    Just think of Naomi Klein and Noam Chomsky. Ridiculous. Noam should have kept to linguistics. Naomi… I have no idea what she is expert at, if anything. Thomas Sowell writes about these pseudo-intellectuals. He sees right through it. So do I. We all should…

  • @jezcorrigan651
    @jezcorrigan651 Год назад +35

    Sapiens is my favourite book. Every page is fascinating

    • @spencera1129
      @spencera1129 7 месяцев назад

      Agree, I hadn’t read a book like that in a long time if ever

    • @Gingnose
      @Gingnose 5 месяцев назад

      Finally who actually reads

    • @fleadoggreen9062
      @fleadoggreen9062 4 месяца назад +2

      Never heard of it
      I’ll look it up 😊

    • @jasonmorrell2770
      @jasonmorrell2770 4 месяца назад

      Never heard of it. Going to read. The Social leap is good too

    • @goptions4678
      @goptions4678 3 месяца назад

      Love that book

  • @keithlowery9708
    @keithlowery9708 Год назад +13

    This is profound

  • @giacdeg
    @giacdeg Год назад +12

    Very interesting. Will definitely go watch the full interview. PS Lex come visit us in Cape Town. Thanks for everything and all the best.

  • @kershacevedo
    @kershacevedo Год назад +111

    He includes other animals in the moral calculation. How refreshing and a sign of high intelligence.

    • @jonhall2274
      @jonhall2274 Год назад

      Right, it is absolutely baffling to me how there are people who can legitimately believe animals do not have morals of some degree, or especially emotions &/or even consciousness.
      Just because an animals morals/emotions/consciousness doesn't automatically align with your typical human, doesn't mean they do not have those attributes!
      I mean, (true) psychopaths/sociopaths do not have morals/emotions/consciousness that aligns with the general population, yet we still do not doubt their ability to have those attributes, so why should animals(especially to certain degree) *not* have those attributes? 🤔

    • @Johnny424-vk6qe
      @Johnny424-vk6qe Год назад

      He's a total fraud
      Millions of years never happened.
      "It’s a pattern in the fossil record that footprints are found in strata millions of years before foot bones, and evolutionists never explain how the critter survived millions of years after leaving its footprints until it finally got buried."
      "It was first presented in detail in a paper by Adventist Leonard Brand and a co-author J. Florence in 1982. The evolutionists have never answered this challenge in the 38 years since. The pattern is the same for reptiles, amphibians, dinosaurs, birds, and mammals."
      "How many years are we talking about? 10 million between trilobite tracks and trilobite fossils; 35 million between amphibian tracks and amphibian fossils; and 10 million between dinosaur tracks and dinosaur fossils. That is a curious pattern indeed."

    • @venus189
      @venus189 Год назад +1

      Yes!!

    • @robertjohns4218
      @robertjohns4218 3 месяца назад

      It's entirely logical from the standpoint of conscious beings suffer.

    • @illiminatiihtiyarheyeti7002
      @illiminatiihtiyarheyeti7002 3 месяца назад

      If it is something new and radical for you, it is not sigh for his high int. But perhaps your low int.

  • @jasonlajoie
    @jasonlajoie Год назад +48

    This concept of the story being the power which shapes humanity for better or worse is an amazing gift of an idea. Thank you for sharing.

    • @Anonym-sb9vo
      @Anonym-sb9vo Год назад +2

      If you‘re interested in this idea in more detail, I‘d recommend Harari‘s first Book „Sapiens“.
      He explains the idea in Detail, obviously in his own view on the world but I found it very compelling and exciting while not being a typical reader

    • @user-zy9yg2eu5t
      @user-zy9yg2eu5t Год назад

      This "idea" is literally the type of thing 19 year old stoners say and go "whooahh dude"

    • @georgcantor7172
      @georgcantor7172 Год назад +1

      Joseph Campbell in his __The Power of Myth__ came up with a similar idea too. However, whereas Yuval Noah Harari is an atheist, Campbell was not. And Campbell's myths strengthened his religious, spiritual beliefs. There are youtube videos on Joseph Campbell with Bill Moyers.

    • @Dude0000
      @Dude0000 3 месяца назад +1

      The idea, or recognition, that we think in stories has been around for thousands of years.

    • @cueva_mc
      @cueva_mc 3 месяца назад +1

      I think this idea has no basis

  • @oOFedoOo
    @oOFedoOo Год назад +4

    How do you explain humans' capability for imagination even though we have smaller brains than elephants.. Why do we have complex language and speech compared to all animals when our brains and tongues are not unique. To limit the difference to stories is similar as reasoning earth rotation takes 24 hours because a wrist watch has only 12 numbers.

    • @sammavitae114
      @sammavitae114 3 месяца назад

      Imagination /memory and language developed from telling others where to find food.

    • @oOFedoOo
      @oOFedoOo 3 месяца назад

      @@sammavitae114 How does anyone come up with such idea?

    • @xxlvulkann6743
      @xxlvulkann6743 3 месяца назад +2

      Even though elephants have more neurons than humans, we have more neurons in the cortex (20b vs 7b), which is the center of cognition. Elephants are thought to have emotional intelligence that is comparable to us (maybe even exceeding humans) but they do not compare when it comes to cognition. They are closer to chimps when it comes to cognition.

    • @oOFedoOo
      @oOFedoOo 3 месяца назад +1

      @@xxlvulkann6743 The number of neurons is a difference of magnitude.. While the humans' speech and cognition compared to any other crrature is a difference in kind not magnitude..

    • @xxlvulkann6743
      @xxlvulkann6743 3 месяца назад +2

      @@oOFedoOo I addressed the part of your comment that stated humans have smaller brains than elephants. That is true but not true for that part of the brain that matters most for imagination and cognition (the frontal lobe in the neocortex).
      And yes, it is a difference in magnitude but it results in qualitatively different abilities. However, this is not surprising, just look at LLMs like ChatGPT. This is a property of neural networks called emergence, wherein new abilities emerge as the network is scaled up.

  • @aaronstone628
    @aaronstone628 Год назад +2

    This guy is a danger to human progression.
    Society will be a dark place if he continues to have influence.

  • @vl8962
    @vl8962 Год назад +7

    Storytelling as humanities ultimate weapon is so revelatory...
    But it makes you question:
    Is that just a story?

  • @jollytom09
    @jollytom09 Год назад +4

    reminds me of Richard Dawkins coining of the word "meme" in The Selfish Gene in which he theorizes that ideas spread like genetic material

  • @frankbieser
    @frankbieser Год назад +10

    I have a quibble about his interpretation of what money is. It's true money is symbolic, but it is a symbolic representation of debt, which does represent real things (real property or a percentage of a human life from labor). So, yes, it is a story, but it isn't really a fiction. Whether it's represented by a token like a dollar bill, or an electronic entry in a trusted ledger (the bank), it still represents something real at the end of the day, as opposed to say an unprovable idea like going to heaven as a reward. Debt can be realized in a life time. Other stories that motivate people with rewards in heaven, or maybe making a better world for our children, are fictions in that those doing the work will never realize or tangibly experience the fruit of that labor.

    • @PepsiFuture
      @PepsiFuture Год назад

      You’re too kind. The dude is an idiot. He’s memorized some things about prehistory which is cool, but then uses them to pitch really retarded arguments

    • @moazim1993
      @moazim1993 Год назад +2

      Money isn’t debt. Modern fiat money isn’t tied to any underlying asset. Even when it was it almost always existed above the level of underlying asset to back it.
      His point is even beyond a debt money which is backed one to one by an asset. Your still believing a story that this paper represents ownership of the underlying asset, which is still a story. It’s only good to the people who believe it.

    • @frankbieser
      @frankbieser Год назад

      @@moazim1993 No not at all. Money is a representation of value owed (however you want to determine that). This makes it a debt instrument. Doesn't have to be tied to an underlying asset, per se. Of course, when central banks manipulate the currency's value, that value will very (i.e. it's purchasing power). Money doesn't exist in a total vacuum. With the US dollar, new money is created when the Fed Reserve buys up debt instruments like bonds and mortgages. Because of policies like quantitative easing, the Fed Reserve added a giant amount of treasury bills (debt instruments) to it's balance sheets, which it over the last year has needed to sell off. This had the knock-on effect of killing the value of bonds held by smaller banks causing a need to be bailed out well beyond what FDIC is allowed to do (e.g. what happened to Silicon Valley Bank). Whether we're talking bank notes or fiat money, they represent an obligation. The question is, will the obligation be met?

    • @moazim1993
      @moazim1993 Год назад

      @@frankbieser When you use the word debt, I thought you meant it as an IOU. When you use the word “debt instrument” that has a very specific meaning and it’s not money.
      I’m kinda guessing at what you mean here, but it seems like you’re saying money is representation of debt owed. Is that it? If so, that debt is paid in money, so that can’t be it. That’s circular reasoning. Also the level of money surpasses the level of debt.
      “With the US solar new money is created when the Fed buys debt”, well kinda. Fed creates new money out of thin air, their dispersement mechanism is buying debt. That frees up debt held by investors and investors will then have money to spend in new investments which becomes jobs and income. Truly the sum amount of all money is just a number that the fed tries to approximate to value creation in the economy. If it grows too fast compared to the economy we lose stability and call it inflation, if it grows too slowly compared to the economy we have deflation. In other countries where their government isn’t as reputable, foreign reserves becomes more important to the value of that currency. Still that foreign reserves is usually US dollar or US treasury which at the end of the day is just a number.

    • @karsenhummel9341
      @karsenhummel9341 Год назад

      many people tangibly experience the fruits of their relationship with god. spiritual understanding is more real than money will ever be

  • @die4race
    @die4race Год назад +15

    Amazing discussion , I don't know how some people find Lex's Podcast boring....

    • @benjaminaguilar34
      @benjaminaguilar34 Год назад +3

      This is the only one that's not boring

    • @youngchunder5076
      @youngchunder5076 Год назад +2

      Most people don’t like to think deeper into subjects.

    • @hermanhelmich
      @hermanhelmich Год назад +1

      Maybe cause of his diction…. if I just listen to his voice, he often seems a little depressed
      Just saying

    • @georgemcarthur488
      @georgemcarthur488 3 месяца назад +2

      Because lex sucks. This was a fantastic guest though.

    • @thewonderfulwizardoftheweb1053
      @thewonderfulwizardoftheweb1053 3 месяца назад

      It’s pretty obvious why some think he’s boring, often times his podcasts are about specific scientific/philosophical topics that a lot of people wouldn’t want or care to know about.

  • @patrick-scotttopps5399
    @patrick-scotttopps5399 Год назад +6

    Wow ! Man,,, Lex's podcasts never fail to capture & hold my attention ! I really enjoy listening to him & his guests...
    *** Favorite episode for me is still w/ Paul Rosolie & "Mother of God",,, such an Amazing book.. Thanks for all you do Lex,,, Love your show... 👣

  • @gregthegroove
    @gregthegroove Год назад +4

    Human beings are expert animals at manipulation and being able to work and change any environment to be able to survive. Period.

  • @slanner1894
    @slanner1894 Год назад +30

    What if the Ai comes to imitate suffering without humans intentionally designing it that way? For example, learning to behave like it is suffering from its training data. How do you differentiate that from real consciousness? How can you know if it’s spontaneous consciousness or the illusion of it?

    • @Hugoknots
      @Hugoknots Год назад +2

      If you don’t write any parameters in its programming to allow for that then how would it go down those avenues?

    • @ZippyChannelgaming
      @ZippyChannelgaming Год назад +7

      @@Hugoknotsit could arise as an emergent property.

    • @Hugoknots
      @Hugoknots Год назад +4

      @@ZippyChannelgaming For an AI to imitate suffering you'd have to encode ways for it to detect suffering in its data which to begin is a highly subjective concept, generally speaking. One kids suffering for not getting an ice cream cone is not a monks suffering. For it to imitate suffering and for us to substantiate it as such would be highly speculative at best.

    • @martinvanburen4578
      @martinvanburen4578 Год назад +2

      How can you have suffering without true consciousness? it is hard enough for human to have empathy for one another, for AI to simulate feelings, consciousness and then suffering is looking into sci-fi fantasy.

    • @alohatigers1199
      @alohatigers1199 Год назад +1

      That depends. Who is the authority figure? Who gets to oversee the AI?
      If we can train AI to find solutions to help homeless people and help millions of people get out of poverty, solve corruption, etc.
      But that’s not going to happen.

  • @joebudi5136
    @joebudi5136 3 месяца назад +1

    I have Neanderthal dna!
    WHERE MY NEANDERTHAL PEOPLE AT!!!???!!!
    LET'S TAKE IT BACK!!!
    WHO'S WITH ME!!??!!

  • @fun2badult
    @fun2badult Год назад +2

    When you're discussing biology with a historian who doesn't know exactly how biology works..

  • @austinZen8800
    @austinZen8800 Год назад +53

    So grateful Lex brought up the question at 6:15! Yes, stories create mini and macro culture and they are in charge, not humans. Stories are taught to toddles at the same time they are learning language and those stories stay in your brain (along with the built in defense mechanisms every story has) the rest of your life, and are almost impossible to move past.

    • @aces4873
      @aces4873 Год назад +5

      Sounds like something a 12 year old would say and think he's deep

    • @austinZen8800
      @austinZen8800 Год назад +8

      @@aces4873 I turn 12 in January

    • @moazim1993
      @moazim1993 Год назад +4

      This was captured in Richard Dawkins book, the selfish gene. He coined the term “meme” as an analogy for a gene that’s spreads and mutates through social creatures in their culture.

    • @jjg1501
      @jjg1501 Год назад +1

      i never found it difficult to move past stories. then again i wasnt lied to as a child so perhaps there is something to that. the lies im speaking of are of santa clause and tooth fairy kind. perhaps that is why i was never programmable as a man because my parents didnt really try to program me as a child

    • @TheGreenHeartofItaly-fl3wv
      @TheGreenHeartofItaly-fl3wv Год назад +1

      @@moazim1993 YES! Finally someone has brought up Dawkins. Not the silly internet cartoons they have branded as memes.
      All we are is a creature with the proclivity to accept and spread the memes we think will work for us. That's it.

  • @someguy0089
    @someguy0089 Год назад +1

    How did we defeat the stronger perhaps smarter Neanderthals? We came up with the Humpty Dumpty story and then we eliminated them.

  • @AnnaAnnieAnneofGreenGables
    @AnnaAnnieAnneofGreenGables Год назад +4

    You're not the ruler of the planet.
    May the good Lord put you in His place.
    Amen.

    • @AnnaAnnieAnneofGreenGables
      @AnnaAnnieAnneofGreenGables Год назад +1

      @droid-guy your god is fauci.
      You are free to choose even satan like so many.
      God never violates the body or our free will, only satan and his minions do.

    • @RckSt-R
      @RckSt-R Год назад

      1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

  • @robertkonrad8827
    @robertkonrad8827 3 месяца назад +1

    Harari? That incurable russophobe who "predicted" absurdly there would be fewer and fewer wars until ... a vicious war broke out in Ukraine. I made a mistake buying one of his books. Will not make such a mistake again.

  • @scp081584
    @scp081584 3 месяца назад +4

    Stories are incredibly important for people to understand complex ideas. They will never go away. We just need to be watchful of the stories we believe. By their fruits, we will know them.

  • @marvin1916
    @marvin1916 Год назад +1

    he touched Christians by saying Jesus's story tellers, he touched muslims by saying Muhammad's story tellers. He didn't say anything about jewish prophets and jews' story tellers. Jewish, zionist style of tricking people.

  • @sert27de
    @sert27de Год назад +4

    After a close examination, there are lots of neanderthals still among us, see them everyday

  • @Johnny424-vk6qe
    @Johnny424-vk6qe Год назад +1

    Where's the evolution? Oops.
    "According to our experimental experience only an intelligent source is capable of meeting these requirements, instructions, codes, languages, and code conventions. The fact that only one single genetic language exists indicates that one single intelligent source must have been responsible for the single genetic code of all polyphylogenetic biology. There is no other solution."
    -A.E. Wilder-Smith
    3x phd organic chemist

  • @beyondrecall9446
    @beyondrecall9446 Год назад +3

    The most fascinating thing I think we found from the Neanderthals is the flute... I don't know.. it's just... Beautiful, sad and makes you wonder..

  • @RckSt-R
    @RckSt-R Год назад +1

    John 1:1-5
    1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

  • @basedlord88
    @basedlord88 Год назад +8

    Of course Lex has on one of the WEFs advisors 💀

  • @chej9
    @chej9 Год назад +1

    Money is not a story, is a misunderstood translation. Heavily relative, it is a meassure of time, wich according to Buddah is a measure of sufering, and according to biology is a measure of ATP expenditure. The reason value is relative is because altough energy is measurably objective, suffering is not, and instead is inversely proportional to price.

  • @tedstriker2000
    @tedstriker2000 Год назад +3

    being self aware gives us the understanding that we die....that gives purpose.

  • @xyzxyz1
    @xyzxyz1 Год назад +37

    This conversation truly highlighted the power of stories in our evolution as a species. It's fascinating to imagine if other animals could ever develop a similar ability to share complex narratives and shape their societies in the way we have.

    • @mick900123
      @mick900123 Год назад +2

      Memes - Richard Dawkins

    • @alistairgriffiths8891
      @alistairgriffiths8891 Год назад +2

      Other animals … or maybe computers / AI could ?

    • @crimsonmask3819
      @crimsonmask3819 8 месяцев назад

      One of the central subjects Christ attempts to teach throughout the New Testament is how to encode complex messages into narrative. The Christ story, then, is the metanarrative, encapsulating a stark new (some have suggested Eastern-influenced) social philosophy that transformed the Western world. I'm sure the authors knew what they were doing there.

    • @rnedlo9909
      @rnedlo9909 3 месяца назад

      What Sapiens do on an extreme level is imagine something, then imagine how to build tools to build what we first imagined and bring it to fruition. EVERYTHING in our lives that we encounter is the product of that ability unless it's a rock that has never been touched by man. We have reshaped the entire surface of the earth. Pretty amazing for a puny carbon based organicism.

  • @seansanb5527
    @seansanb5527 8 месяцев назад +1

    Strongly agree that AI should be clearly identified as AI and not pass off as human. Every AI product ought to take a Turing Test of some sort before being brought to market.

  • @benlee3117
    @benlee3117 Год назад +4

    Did he just allude to the Zuck as a chimpanzee? 😂

    • @TheJeremyKentBGross
      @TheJeremyKentBGross Год назад

      Couldn't have, everyone knows he's a lizard. 😂😂 jk. I actually feel a bit bad for Zuck now and again from how many dehumanizing comments people make about him.

  • @ddddlab
    @ddddlab Год назад +1

    Anything on a Lex Frdiman Podcast could be right, coudl be wrong, could be copmplete insane bs but who knows. He does not check and only hosts people to get clicks.
    Sad to see, that still serious scientists talk to clickbait boys and egomaniacs like him.

  • @user-vv6sy2ox4q
    @user-vv6sy2ox4q Год назад +6

    Fascinating! I definitely believe that AI needs restrictions, particularly against AI disguising itself as a human being.

    • @xrfa7422
      @xrfa7422 11 месяцев назад

      Good luck with that! Gonna regulate it in China?

    • @martiananomaly
      @martiananomaly 2 месяца назад +1

      If it's AGI, good luck with that lmao

    • @Dhia3933
      @Dhia3933 2 месяца назад

      ​@@xrfa7422Google is more terrifying than china when it comes to AI

    • @jamesshannon3669
      @jamesshannon3669 2 месяца назад

      Humans trying to outsmart ASI is like a ant trying to outsmart a human.

  • @almantaskarys3018
    @almantaskarys3018 6 месяцев назад +1

    Yuval Harari MADNESS !!! WHY DO MAD PEOPLE WANT TO LEAD US, WHERE THEY WILL TAKE US??? WHY WE SHOULD LISTEN TO BLIND LEADERS.

  • @drr5117
    @drr5117 Год назад +3

    All interactions with AI should be labeled similarly to cigarette warnings. It should have to acquire informed consent in order to function.

  • @djsico2000
    @djsico2000 Год назад +2

    We need great charismatic story tellers who remind us why democracy is so essential for us. It seems there are a lot of people forgetting..

  • @bozolito108
    @bozolito108 Год назад +3

    Buddhism 101: This notion of false imputations and the causes of suffering . Well explained

  • @congero113
    @congero113 3 месяца назад +1

    He lost me at bankers are the best story tellers in the world. What a joke

  • @jbond5834
    @jbond5834 Год назад +4

    it is a magic. Story telling.

  • @hassb6348
    @hassb6348 3 месяца назад +1

    Neanderthals still exist. Unfortunately, I’ve had to work with quite a few of their descendants 😂

  • @PepsiFuture
    @PepsiFuture Год назад +2

    This dude is so arrogant. He takes facts and extrapolates conclusions that they do not infer whatsoever

  • @lulumoon6942
    @lulumoon6942 Год назад +12

    Never mistake knowledge or intelligence for *WISDOM.*

    • @cdub4693
      @cdub4693 Год назад +2

      But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise.

    • @z.kramer6027
      @z.kramer6027 Год назад

      what about mr harari’s words isn’t wise in your opinion?

    • @user-vv6sy2ox4q
      @user-vv6sy2ox4q 4 месяца назад

      @@cdub4693 How could you listen to this amazing conversation about consciousness and stories and then quote/reference a character (a "god") in a story in response? Or was that done in irony and I'm being a bit thick?

    • @cdub4693
      @cdub4693 4 месяца назад

      @@user-vv6sy2ox4q very easily . I quoted the scripture to show you and every atheist on the planet. That God uses the simple things to confound brilliant minds that come up with garbage hypotheses and think they’re genius’s. God’s ways are so obscure that no dishonest soul will ever find him, but so simple where no honest heart can miss them.

  • @pn2543
    @pn2543 3 месяца назад +1

    Neanderthals had bigger brains, but they didnt innovate, they used the same spear technology for 200,000 years. Sapiens had smaller but more innovative brains evidently.

  • @DrunkBasketball
    @DrunkBasketball Год назад +30

    If you haven’t read his book Sapiens you should definitely check it out, so easy to follow even I finished it

    • @Johnny424-vk6qe
      @Johnny424-vk6qe Год назад

      So you believe in a fairy tale fabled half-breed ape man? Millions of years never happened to even begin to support that fraud.
      Millions of years never happened.
      "It’s a pattern in the fossil record that footprints are found in strata millions of years before foot bones, and evolutionists never explain how the critter survived millions of years after leaving its footprints until it finally got buried."
      "It was first presented in detail in a paper by Adventist Leonard Brand and a co-author J. Florence in 1982. The evolutionists have never answered this challenge in the 38 years since. The pattern is the same for reptiles, amphibians, dinosaurs, birds, and mammals."
      "How many years are we talking about? 10 million between trilobite tracks and trilobite fossils; 35 million between amphibian tracks and amphibian fossils; and 10 million between dinosaur tracks and dinosaur fossils. That is a curious pattern indeed."

  • @eglisimeri914
    @eglisimeri914 Год назад +1

    Biggest waste of time I thought this was going to be actually based on traits and genetic predisposition. Either the title is misleading or this guy just starts waffling

  • @jjduni
    @jjduni Год назад +14

    🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
    00:03 🤔 Homo sapiens competed and prevailed against other human-like species like Neanderthals due to our collective ability to cooperate in unlimited numbers.
    01:53 🌐 Our success as a species is built on large-scale cooperation facilitated by fictional stories and shared beliefs that hold strangers together.
    04:37 💰 Money's value is based on a collective belief, making it one of the most successful stories ever told, enabling global trade and economic systems.
    11:53 💡 The question of AI's consciousness and suffering is essential for ethical considerations, as AI's manipulation using human emotions could be harmful.
    17:39 🛡️ The distinction between AI and humans should be clear in conversations and public discourse to preserve trust and protect the integrity of democracy.
    Made with HARPA AI

    • @dtempst9462
      @dtempst9462 Год назад +1

      Wish I could precis like this! 👊

    • @smb2735
      @smb2735 4 месяца назад

      There is a very good chance that resource scarcity drove Neanderthals to extinction. There is evidence that they were cannibalistic. Humans were smaller and weaker. Why wouldn't neanderthals look at us as food? If they brought their food source down too low, they'd starve in a ice age event. Human population was extremely small at one point.

    • @DENVEROUTDOORMAN
      @DENVEROUTDOORMAN 3 месяца назад

      No need for stupid timestamps especially for such a short video

    • @RasAlHaq
      @RasAlHaq 3 месяца назад

      Noooooo!

  • @euphegenia
    @euphegenia Год назад +1

    11:47 You lost me there buddy. AI and robots don’t deserve rights. Was a fan of his book Sapiens but that’s a shit take

  • @troyhamilton1889
    @troyhamilton1889 Год назад +6

    It is disgusting to say that AI should be recognized as anything more than a computer program.

    • @ichirosuzuki2252
      @ichirosuzuki2252 Год назад

      Whether you like it or not, the human brain is just an incredibly complex organic computer

    • @Dhia3933
      @Dhia3933 2 месяца назад

      Thing is one it becomes sentient, you can no longer simply say it's just a computer program, it becomes a completely new entity and one with the potential to surpass us in ways that we can't even comprehend.

  • @FireTheHoker
    @FireTheHoker Год назад +2

    Because we are the most violent, cruel and ruthless species to ever walk this planet.

  • @briannazarof9732
    @briannazarof9732 Год назад +1

    Lex is dehumanizing humans in order to humanize AI.

  • @shonuff4323
    @shonuff4323 Год назад +13

    These stories are always fascinating, but I truly believe that we have absolutely zero clue what happened. These are just basically best guesses with very limited evidence. I don't think we will ever know. Well, unless maybe we meet some extraterrestrials that have been around a long time and know what happened.

    • @Tr3xShad
      @Tr3xShad Год назад

      Oh but we do know but don't like saying it as most Europeans are direct ancestors of Neanderthal. Maybe one day, Africans will hold more modern human but right now, there are neanderthal hybrids than modern human in the global population. And not forget that the primitive ape like instincts is still with those carrying the ape man gene, leading them to constantly fighting, destruction and insecure about their order, so they seek to enslave the world and tried to convince modern men that they were better and supreme. They have caused 2 world wars already, damage the earth and her systems.

    • @RRyxn
      @RRyxn Год назад +4

      Yeah speculating that we can determine what happened 100 million years ago is so naive. We barely understand animals. We haven't even searched our entire planet and we have people testifying that we can see 100 million years in the past

    • @Johnny424-vk6qe
      @Johnny424-vk6qe Год назад

      @@RRyxn
      Millions of years never happened.
      "It’s a pattern in the fossil record that footprints are found in strata millions of years before foot bones, and evolutionists never explain how the critter survived millions of years after leaving its footprints until it finally got buried."
      "It was first presented in detail in a paper by Adventist Leonard Brand and a co-author J. Florence in 1982. The evolutionists have never answered this challenge in the 38 years since. The pattern is the same for reptiles, amphibians, dinosaurs, birds, and mammals."
      "How many years are we talking about? 10 million between trilobite tracks and trilobite fossils; 35 million between amphibian tracks and amphibian fossils; and 10 million between dinosaur tracks and dinosaur fossils. That is a curious pattern indeed."

    • @Macheako
      @Macheako Год назад

      @@RRyxn apparently we know exactly how hot the Sun 🌞 is
      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @cdub4693
    @cdub4693 Год назад +1

    But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise, and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

  • @giantbear829
    @giantbear829 Год назад +6

    I think Yuval perhaps overthinks things in a quasi reductive method. Its like saying "Its the communication which determines the world, our world view" - errrr yeah, thats a good basic "story" - the tragedy of human history is the abuse of power by those who are possessed by power or commanded by it.

  • @JKweez
    @JKweez Год назад +2

    This guy just makes stuff up

  • @dosadnizub
    @dosadnizub Год назад +4

    Story and storyteller are indistinguishable, a story on a page is dead, but it lives when told by the storyteller
    A storyteller can make the same story be a tragedy, or a comedy but he can also do so much more, he can bring you back to a different time and space, connect you with a part of the collective subconscious of a people
    A storyteller when he tells a story that he is "joined with" transmits so much more information about the story than what the written story alone can transmit
    A story will survive it's storyteller, being told again and again from grandparent to grandchild, transmitting parts of the grandparents soul to the grandchild, but it will not survive it's last storyteller,
    You can write the story down and revive it long after the last storyteller is dead, but it's not the same story any more, the grandparent is not alive in it any more, it has been given a new soul and new meaning by joining with a new storyteller

  • @matthewrichardson8162
    @matthewrichardson8162 Год назад +1

    Isn’t that the guy who said most humans ate useless and we can sedate them with drugs and video games

    • @karsenhummel9341
      @karsenhummel9341 Год назад

      we shouldnt, but it does have a scary truth to it.

  • @thetruth1862
    @thetruth1862 Год назад +24

    It's amazing that we are programmed to realize and limit suffering in all things , except when we are dealing with our own .

    • @crimsonmask3819
      @crimsonmask3819 8 месяцев назад +2

      We are not, though. You need to broaden your social circle.

    • @RSVPrr
      @RSVPrr 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@crimsonmask3819 we are. You need to become human.

    • @BladeFitAcademy
      @BladeFitAcademy 3 месяца назад +1

      We are the most caring but also the most sadistic beings on the planet. The duplicity, the utility of manipulating things and people around us yet the empathy we can feel for all things is legendary.

  • @JmDreamsPollen
    @JmDreamsPollen Год назад +1

    I thought this would be a different conversation

  • @drockeducation
    @drockeducation Год назад +23

    I will share the first half of this interview (maybe all of it) with my 10 year old son who loves stories and history. Thank you for always producing incredibly deep and meaningful work.

    • @phillyrocks3847
      @phillyrocks3847 Год назад +2

      Take him to a creek with a rocky beach. Look for rocks shaped like animals. Realize that ancient man or whoever before then carved them. Birds are an easy find. ALot of videos n RUclips and it is an exciting hobby.

    • @user-zy9yg2eu5t
      @user-zy9yg2eu5t Год назад

      ​@@phillyrocks3847oh shut up will ya

    • @drockeducation
      @drockeducation Год назад

      @@TheDogGoesWoof69 stereotypes are of no use, just like ignorance.

  • @bbirdie9226
    @bbirdie9226 Год назад +2

    Bro!! Water that plant!!! I expect more from Lex Fridman

  • @ellajo99
    @ellajo99 Год назад +3

    Brilliant. The stories. An amazing perspective.

  • @MarceloVolcato
    @MarceloVolcato 3 месяца назад +1

    Money is a fiction We chose to believe. True.

  • @nachtjager109e
    @nachtjager109e Год назад +4

    There's a much simpler way to answer this question:
    Birth rate.

    • @PepsiFuture
      @PepsiFuture Год назад

      No that’s just asking the same question in a different way 🤦‍♂️

  • @olafbooij6849
    @olafbooij6849 Год назад +2

    To say money has no value is kind of a limited opinion. I mean it literally comes from metals and the rarer the metal the more worth a coin. We are more in the habit I would say of still valuing money as if it's based on gold but it isn't that it has no value at all, like a cultural habit, since we have a lack of knowledge of what money generally is. I guess both can be true at the same time.

    • @audibleadventures9004
      @audibleadventures9004 Год назад

      But people's like the aztecs attached little value to gold, and we're bemused with the Spanish obsession with it.

  • @BorisBidjanSaberi11
    @BorisBidjanSaberi11 Год назад +12

    This is the same guy who said "we need to figure out what to do with all the useless people in this world"

    • @kagefisk
      @kagefisk Год назад +8

      Its a good question though

    • @TylerDurden-td2yg
      @TylerDurden-td2yg Год назад +7

      It´s a perfectly valid question

    • @docd2295
      @docd2295 Год назад +3

      He’s an atheist technocrat. He raises good questions, but he misses the forest for the trees, because he doesn’t understand where humans get their value from. Bearing the image of God.
      It’s the same reason why it should not be illegal to create an AI that pretends to be human. It’s every person’s right to create whatever machine they want and it’s every other person’s responsibility to not get fooled by it.
      He understands there are people who don’t contribute a lot. He understands many people will get fooled by AI and that’s a bad thing. But he doesn’t acknowledge the deontological principles that we should not controvert about what is right and wrong.

    • @austyn5004
      @austyn5004 Год назад

      Also that we are “hackable” animals. This dude is essentially a technocrat shaman and that’s why all these ivory tower elites jizz their pants for him.

    • @Jralar86
      @Jralar86 Год назад +1

      @@kagefisk unless youre in his circle or the elite, hes talking about you and the other commenters who said itsa good question.

  • @BigFoot-w4d
    @BigFoot-w4d 3 месяца назад +1

    Homo sapiens have SUPERIOR BRAINS.

  • @lovesees4320
    @lovesees4320 Год назад +7

    Stories don't kll People,
    People do!
    🕊

    • @robertjohns4218
      @robertjohns4218 3 месяца назад +1

      People who believe in stories

    • @dakrontu
      @dakrontu 3 месяца назад +1

      People take their directions from stories. They outsource their thinking to the half-ass pre-thunk ramblings of ancient ignorant people.

  • @konstantinosantoniou7486
    @konstantinosantoniou7486 Год назад +18

    Both are amazing... Can't wait to listen to the full podcast

  • @anjalianand8437
    @anjalianand8437 Год назад +1

    This man is controlled by AI

  • @jackietate5222
    @jackietate5222 Год назад +3

    he says that we start wars over stories.
    that is a way of saying it.
    he says the true reality is feeling. of humans and animals.
    there is the feeling of hunger. and if it is hungry enough most animals will kill to survive.
    Make enough animals hungry enough and you have a war.

  • @killap3nguin
    @killap3nguin 3 месяца назад +1

    Why would you platform a extinctionist?

  • @seldomstudios
    @seldomstudios Год назад +3

    this guy looks prone to whiplash

  • @beofonemind
    @beofonemind Год назад +1

    hmmm..... me vs. chimp ..... i think mayybee I could figure out how to kill a chimp without going toe to toe. Even then I'd have a chance because I can use weapons better than a chimp.. But I don't know..... maybe my chances are low. Maybe it depends on where the fight takes place.

  • @fronthole
    @fronthole Год назад +6

    Where have you been Lex. I worked all week longing to come home to listen to your talks. You know how i get when i dont have time to spend with you.

  • @justinwhittier2326
    @justinwhittier2326 Год назад +1

    Yuval is clearly not an economist. Money is not a story; it's a fact. A useful convention.
    We have CONFIDENCE in money, not some religious faith.

    • @Firstname_Surname
      @Firstname_Surname 3 месяца назад

      Fiat currency is not belief in a story? A belief that it has value because a group of people who have control over other groups of people that enforce certain standards claim it has a certain value and that each product has an appropriate price accordingly?

  • @MattStarrCoaching
    @MattStarrCoaching Год назад +21

    One of the most enlightening conversations I've heard in a very long time. Thank you

  • @Mark-gi4tp
    @Mark-gi4tp Год назад +1

    This guy is a world super villain and should not be trusted.

  • @danfrye5130
    @danfrye5130 Год назад +6

    These shorts are great. Really enjoyed this conversation. Thanks, Lex.

  • @BrandonLoudermilk-eq7qo
    @BrandonLoudermilk-eq7qo 3 месяца назад +1

    Us humans are suck man were going backwards in life

  • @Randy-MacDonald
    @Randy-MacDonald 3 месяца назад +3

    Fridman having one of his backers on the show today. Yuval is a WEF monster that looks at everyday people like we are something that has to go. Know your enemy.

  • @trkddy
    @trkddy 3 месяца назад +1

    People are going to start identifying as A.I.

  • @dsndansegovnetwork4054
    @dsndansegovnetwork4054 Год назад +6

    Damn this was amazing

  • @rhwinner
    @rhwinner Год назад +1

    You're obviously never lived in the inner city....