For those saying it's made for payload rather than towing. Yes and no. Usually the dealership or customer will spec these things out to a certain GVWR. For example when ordering this most will order it with a 14,500lbs GVWR because it allows you to tow more overall weight while staying dot compliant. Also for your GVWR to stay dot compliant when carrying a load of gravel. That was Chevrolet's main focus. A 3500 sometimes will have a GVWR of 17,500 but in reality is not nearly as heavy duty as Chevrolet's medium duty trucks. I guarantee you are much safer in towing 37,000lbs with this medium duty truck then you are in any 3500. I know someone who tows a dozer with their 6500 on a tandem axle gooseneck that's probably in between 32ft to 38 ft long. I think that those are ways around 15,000 to 16,000 pounds plus whatever the trailer weights not including the job box, tools, chains, compressors, jacks, a welder and a whole lot of other junk. No the truck is not Dot compliant ,but it easily tows every bit of that. Any 3500 either Dodge or Chevy as well as an f-450 "all have been tuned". The 6500 "Although admittingly slow going up steep grades" but she tows and stops very confidently compared to anything that has ever towed this equipment. So yes it will tow and toe better than anything else besides a full size semi or bus.
We have one at my job and It got into small highway accident while it was towing a 28 foot 2 axle dump trailer loaded with an excavator and a pallet of concrete bags. An SUV swerved into it and hit the bedside pretty hard. The guy driving it said he pulled over to look at the back of the trailer but then realized the hit was right behind the cab. He could barely feel the hit. They’re units for sure!
I’m excited to see a f600 in person. Everyone doesn’t realize that these are made for payload rather than towing. Is it capable, yes. I’d feel a lot safer towing 30k with something like this rather than a one ton, “ratings” aside.
I have a 2020 5500 hd 4x4 and I have to say I love it. These trucks were designed to haul. You can tow with these trucks with no problems. I tow all kinds of equipment with mine. I also tow a 36 foot camper along with a side x side, generator, 100 gallons of fresh water, firewood, and 50 gallons of gas on the bed which is 11 foot long. The 2wd version of these trucks turn a lot sharper. You can also get air ride rear suspension in the 2wd version which I highly recommend. As far as the interior goes you have to keep in mind that this is a work truck and they do make a LT model as well. I have a few videos on my channel of my setup. Feel free to check them out
Kelderman makes great front as well as rear air ride suspensions and stabilizer bars for 4x2's and 4x4's.You can do a complete air set up for brakes as well and even run tool's of the compressor with the right set up.
Unloaded heavy duty spring suspended trucks are super rough haha. A lot of the big trucks have full air suspension for this reason. I wouldn't mind havinf one of these too. ..... In like 20 years when it comes into my price range lol.
Hell yeah, go for it. I'm looking at getting the 6500 4x4 myself. I would definitely go with the LT model. They now offer the Allison 2000 series transmission, which is a 10 speed automatic
The payload is where its at, i haul 700 gals of water and 3 hotsy units on the bed and it barely squints.. i put 22.5/11r and it sits tall and look awesome..✌
What I want to do with this truck? Put an aluminum CM truckbed with boxes from Satble Camper. Then load a Host Mammoth truck camper with 3 slides out onto it. Done. The perfect rig
As far as the big 3 medium duty stuff goes these are by far the coolest. They are really Navistar/International built trucks with a GM powertrain and interior in them. Some cool features you won't ever get on a Ford or RAM medium duty. Not a fan of 4wd on a truck like this and it needs the aluminum wheels IMO.
The only option to decide is how much a person or business wants to pay for maintenance, most people commenting dont seem to have experience spending the many thousands of dollars maintaining these combinations . Duramax/Allison, Cummins/Aisin, or Powerstroke/Ford Trans.
Put a mild towing tune in my F550 service truck and the TopKick service truck, DRAMATIC improvement in the overall performance of the engine, without the tune both were a dog, never had issues but never exceeded flashing anything beyond a mild towing tune. Next service truck in a year will get the same tune or something similar ..
usually manufacturers use previous gen's cab on commercial vehicles. Ford F-650/750 still have the same cab from the 1999 super duty albeit updated to the early 2000s interior. It is easier and cheaper to produce an already tried-and-true cab vs always using the latest and greatest.
If you get this truck tricked out with the available air ride package, then I bet the ride would be much better. The interior cab itself is boring but hey, it's a work man's truck anyway. Just think what the truck could be like with the interior of a Dodge Ram or Silverado truck with all of the bells and whistles. Wow.
I looked at one near my house that was four-wheel drive four-door it was really nice it was only like $49K some reason but I like the older Topkick/ Kodiak 2003-2009 they had more room because they use basically the van body Express van
If you think that's cool, the the next step is to go checkout some real medium duty trucks - like 26k GVW on up - with big truck features like air brakes. Those tiny tires ride like crap and don't stop very well when your loaded out to 20K lbs.... My Freightliner M2 rides almost as comfy as a sedan with air suspension rolling on 11R22.5's. It stops better (and the engine brake is strong) and the short wheelbase turns better than my previous F550 service truck...even being ten years old, I'd take it over any new sub-CDL chassis out there....And, after living through working all these truck through the worst emissions BS of the early to mid 2000's, I sure as heck would not touch anything International is involved in.
*Kodiak They do offer an LT package Yes it’s the 2015-2019 HD cab It is NOT the same tranny as in the new HD’s. If you get max GCWR package it’s also a different trans in it You need to add air ride 😀
Im thinking that with a 22.5 gvwr and 15k rear gawr, this truck should basically be cabaple of about 6k+ tongue wieght.. and could be hell of a hot shot style unit. I'm still learning myself because I want to make the proper decision when buying my next tow rig.. but to say you cant tow with it is silly. Check out LOAD MIZER's video on gvwr.. this is sooo much more capable than a 3500 and you wouldnt have to poo yourself at the scales.
Those trucks don't come with many options also most of them aren't four-wheel drive its cool this one is. DMAXRYNO wanted to buy one but he said they're too plain for the money. And you can tow this with them use them to tow horse trailers sometimes hotshots because remember all this truck is a updated Kodiak or Topkick
Cool video. Those trucks are designed for commercial use. They have decent GVWRs but not so great GCWRs. I also think they were announced before the 2020+ trucks came out so that’s partly why they use the old cabs. Still would be cool to have and I would bet they would handle a big fifth wheel or gooseneck much better than a 3500.
Yes they do sometimes. There’s one of those trucks pretty local to me that is an LT. Black with an aluminum gooseneck flatbed on it. I’m not sure what that type of bed is called but it’s a flat bed with some storage buoy in and a goose neck hitch built it. It’s SHARP. Pulls a monster gooseneck horse trailer.
The guy from Big Truck Big RV was looking to buy a 5500hd to tow his 40ft 5th wheel. The Chevy dealer talked him out of it. Said it wasn't rated for towing. I bet it would tow just fine. I also believe you can order one with the LTZ trim package.
It’s not as good for towing, because you don’t have the proper weight distribution. The rear is too light since it’s made to haul and won’t allow the back wheels to get the proper traction.
It probably has air brakes like you said but also it might have air ride suspension but most likely that specific air tank by the step ups is just for utility purposes since it’s technically a commercial truck
@@lenny8100 There is no such thing as "carrying". You are taking about hauling or payload just like he said. So "carrying" and hauling would be the same thing. It's hauling/haul and towing/tow.
Your crazy to use a 3500 for regular heavy towing. That is not a commercial duty truck like that 6500. If you try heavy haul in a 1 ton it might make to 100K before its shot. Not only is the longevity of the truck it self greatly different. Service is way easier/cheaper with a tilt front and then there's the safety factor. The weight of the truck helps tremendously when towing. Have you ever compared the size of the brakes. The commercial medium duty trucks are like four times the size of a of a 1 ton's brakes. If your hauling 18K + daily even weekly you'll be changing those brakes every couple of months and they still might fail. (at the worst possible time too) God forbid if your in a mountainous region. Those down grades will light your brakes on fire! Engine brakes or J brakes will save your a** and keep you running on down the road. I still believe for every day heavy hauling a 9 speed Allison in the medium duty class is the best set up preferably mated to either a Cummins ISB6.7 or the Detroit 60/ DD5. The Duramax 6.6L has a few issues that have to be attended to right out the gate like crappy injectors and a plastic impeller on the turbo that likes to melt, other wise it's a good motor. Better then the Power Stroke IMOP just not the same level as the DD5 or ISB6.7. I've run a lot of Medium duty trucks from flat beds hauling building material on 20' dump beds and 24' piggy backs to Heavy equipment low boy 30'/40' trailers so this is just real world experience I have had and the other drivers I worked with plus the mechanics that kept our trucks on the road. Not numbers on a piece of paper full of factory specs. Anyone can take my advise for what you want.(or not) I just know what I felt safe driving and what stayed on the road and out of the mechanics shop the most since I got into the industry back in 1988/89.
Aside from the tilt hood, I'm just not feeling it. 1990 interior (typical GM), less HP, less Torque than my 3500 Megacab, higher DMV fees, very narrow choices of rims and tires, rides like a pool table and for what exactly? Heavier chassis better braking larger frame are all good but if it's lacking everything else and I only tow up to 20k anyway, it's a no sale for me.
Nice truck no doubt,on the same note I would never buy anything associated with international. Look at the Ford engines,also they 18 wheelers are crappy. They rattle apart always had issues. Would of better if they did it in their own.
@@brjha idk I see navistars out here with everything being the same aside from the grill and probably one of their navistar motors. Not sure why international is such a popular choice. Drove a day cab with their A26 engine in it.was subpar to respectful. I do not really know any truckers that are fans them. I’ll have to do some research to see if that is the case bud.
Stay away from them. I have a c6500 2020 tow truck. The air bags went out at 25,000, the tc lights comes and go. I repaired the air bags and it took me 3 weeks to get it fixed then it went in the shop again a week later. The power and drivetrain is nice. The tank is about 60 to fill with gas price but its too low for towing and the dealers are always busy about 3 weeks out. They are hydronic brakes and the touch screen radio keeps bugging out on random. Get a ford 650 if you are going to do towing. It will pull around 9500 pounds. Pto is not for power take off sir its to move the bed to pick up cars
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Thanks BTBRV!
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For those saying it's made for payload rather than towing. Yes and no. Usually the dealership or customer will spec these things out to a certain GVWR. For example when ordering this most will order it with a 14,500lbs GVWR because it allows you to tow more overall weight while staying dot compliant. Also for your GVWR to stay dot compliant when carrying a load of gravel. That was Chevrolet's main focus. A 3500 sometimes will have a GVWR of 17,500 but in reality is not nearly as heavy duty as Chevrolet's medium duty trucks. I guarantee you are much safer in towing 37,000lbs with this medium duty truck then you are in any 3500. I know someone who tows a dozer with their 6500 on a tandem axle gooseneck that's probably in between 32ft to 38 ft long. I think that those are ways around 15,000 to 16,000 pounds plus whatever the trailer weights not including the job box, tools, chains, compressors, jacks, a welder and a whole lot of other junk. No the truck is not Dot compliant ,but it easily tows every bit of that. Any 3500 either Dodge or Chevy as well as an f-450 "all have been tuned". The 6500 "Although admittingly slow going up steep grades" but she tows and stops very confidently compared to anything that has ever towed this equipment. So yes it will tow and toe better than anything else besides a full size semi or bus.
Really good perspective 👍🏾
We have one at my job and It got into small highway accident while it was towing a 28 foot 2 axle dump trailer loaded with an excavator and a pallet of concrete bags. An SUV swerved into it and hit the bedside pretty hard. The guy driving it said he pulled over to look at the back of the trailer but then realized the hit was right behind the cab. He could barely feel the hit. They’re units for sure!
I’m excited to see a f600 in person. Everyone doesn’t realize that these are made for payload rather than towing. Is it capable, yes. I’d feel a lot safer towing 30k with something like this rather than a one ton, “ratings” aside.
I have a 2020 5500 hd 4x4 and I have to say I love it. These trucks were designed to haul. You can tow with these trucks with no problems. I tow all kinds of equipment with mine. I also tow a 36 foot camper along with a side x side, generator, 100 gallons of fresh water, firewood, and 50 gallons of gas on the bed which is 11 foot long. The 2wd version of these trucks turn a lot sharper. You can also get air ride rear suspension in the 2wd version which I highly recommend. As far as the interior goes you have to keep in mind that this is a work truck and they do make a LT model as well. I have a few videos on my channel of my setup. Feel free to check them out
hi! how is your chevy holding up so far? any problems or breakdowns? how many miles do you have now?
Kelderman makes great front as well as rear air ride suspensions and stabilizer bars for 4x2's and 4x4's.You can do a complete air set up for brakes as well and even run tool's of the compressor with the right set up.
Gonna need a CDL to tow anything sizable with it. Badass truck.
I didn’t know HD trucks were made to drive like Cadillacs. I guess I learned something new.
Unloaded heavy duty spring suspended trucks are super rough haha. A lot of the big trucks have full air suspension for this reason. I wouldn't mind havinf one of these too. ..... In like 20 years when it comes into my price range lol.
Same lol!
Man I really appreciate your channel, I'm a novice and I'm learning so much from you. Thanks!
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An absolute beast, love the look very sharp
Kodiaks were and still the coolest chevy ever made
Hell yeah, go for it. I'm looking at getting the 6500 4x4 myself. I would definitely go with the LT model. They now offer the Allison 2000 series transmission, which is a 10 speed automatic
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Not available on the 4500-6500's
The payload is where its at, i haul 700 gals of water and 3 hotsy units on the bed and it barely squints.. i put 22.5/11r and it sits tall and look awesome..✌
Do you have a picture?
I plan on getting one of these and turning it into a 6-8 door SUV
Dang that is sweet! Loved the blacked out scheme too.
Yup, really cool rig 👍🏾
What I want to do with this truck? Put an aluminum CM truckbed with boxes from Satble Camper. Then load a Host Mammoth truck camper with 3 slides out onto it.
Done. The perfect rig
I wish they offered these truck with at least a mild exterior upgrade. The come basic as can be, but it’s a work truck 🤷♂️
International has one also the same hood is used but International uses there own Instrument panels tho not from chevy
I didn't know you could get these in 4x4.awesome!
Yup!
Love your videos. What's up with the rust in the leaf springs at 6:15?
I found that the towing rating is between 17,500 and 19,500 lbs. You'd probably be able to tow just a s much with a standard Silverado 3500/Duramax
Actually a 3500 tows more
My duramax 3500 DWR can haul 36k with a gooseneck
You are all wrong. Better learn to read
@@devengudinas1649actually it doesn’t. I have an F550, a 3500, 4500 and 6500. 6500 does better towing/hauling than any of them.
I am considering a 6500 with a chassis 220 for a DIY motor home build The weight capacity is amazing but liquid spring would be a must
You just got yourself another sub. Keep it up man!
Thanks Daniel 🙏🏽
We have two of these at work.
They are awesome to drive. I do wish ours had air bags. Only bad thing about it.
That's the air tank for when I put my 5 trumpet train horns on it. 😜😃😃😃
Lol
As far as the big 3 medium duty stuff goes these are by far the coolest. They are really Navistar/International built trucks with a GM powertrain and interior in them. Some cool features you won't ever get on a Ford or RAM medium duty. Not a fan of 4wd on a truck like this and it needs the aluminum wheels IMO.
The only option to decide is how much a person or business wants to pay for maintenance, most people commenting dont seem to have experience spending the many thousands of dollars maintaining these combinations . Duramax/Allison, Cummins/Aisin, or Powerstroke/Ford Trans.
Put a mild towing tune in my F550 service truck and the TopKick service truck, DRAMATIC improvement in the overall performance of the engine, without the tune both were a dog, never had issues but never exceeded flashing anything beyond a mild towing tune. Next service truck in a year will get the same tune or something similar ..
Nice truck, but it at least needs the 10 speed. It would be nice to upgrade the interior as well. Same goes for the F-650.
I agree especially with the 6 speed shifts..
usually manufacturers use previous gen's cab on commercial vehicles. Ford F-650/750 still have the same cab from the 1999 super duty albeit updated to the early 2000s interior. It is easier and cheaper to produce an already tried-and-true cab vs always using the latest and greatest.
Makes sense 👍🏾
Not a secret
I have that same truck for work minus the seats in the back use it all the time to tow I told a 16,000 pound trailer with it and it was fine
I wonder what the reliability is on those things. I’d love to see a truck camper on that beast 🤔🤤🤤
I like your videos. You'll be at 1 million subscribers in no time!!!!
Thanks Matthew 🙏🏽
Got one over the 3500 and it was cheaper, and handles everything I do for landscaping
The smile on your face says it all. 👍😁
Hell yeah, go for it Justin
I use the rear floor of my 2019 Duramax to haul additives, cleaners and body cleaners.
If you get this truck tricked out with the available air ride package, then I bet the ride would be much better. The interior cab itself is boring but hey, it's a work man's truck anyway. Just think what the truck could be like with the interior of a Dodge Ram or Silverado truck with all of the bells and whistles. Wow.
Basically a damn 18 wheeler
You can change things on engine to be able to tow
How about a 3 part series about buying a used tow rig? Problems and positive attributes with Dodge(Ram), Ford, GMC (Chevy)...
Great idea!
Everything is the best performance in his top of the class
She Looks beautiful
You can get them with the axle at 60" after cab a 3500 dually box will fit perfectly
56"CA on the 3500 beds
brother, I hope you get this truck best of luck 👍
I have the 2wd version and my buddy has 4wd. The turning radius in the 2wd is way better
I have one. With no weight in it. It is rough. Once you get a load on it. It's a lot smoother
Good morning I have a question about a silverado 2023 6500 truck, how does the dual tank work?
I looked at one near my house that was four-wheel drive four-door it was really nice it was only like $49K some reason but I like the older Topkick/ Kodiak 2003-2009 they had more room because they use basically the van body Express van
If you think that's cool, the the next step is to go checkout some real medium duty trucks - like 26k GVW on up - with big truck features like air brakes. Those tiny tires ride like crap and don't stop very well when your loaded out to 20K lbs.... My Freightliner M2 rides almost as comfy as a sedan with air suspension rolling on 11R22.5's. It stops better (and the engine brake is strong) and the short wheelbase turns better than my previous F550 service truck...even being ten years old, I'd take it over any new sub-CDL chassis out there....And, after living through working all these truck through the worst emissions BS of the early to mid 2000's, I sure as heck would not touch anything International is involved in.
Thanks for sharing this bro, really good stuff! This 6509 was definitely short of a homer run especially with no towing numbers 👍🏾
When I saw International that turned me off.
JB, you are almost at 100K subs. Looks like your next truck is gonna be a 6500.
*Kodiak
They do offer an LT package
Yes it’s the 2015-2019 HD cab
It is NOT the same tranny as in the new HD’s.
If you get max GCWR package it’s also a different trans in it
You need to add air ride 😀
Good stuff 👍🏾
Like the HD's they are designed to ride better the more weight you put on them.
Im thinking that with a 22.5 gvwr and 15k rear gawr, this truck should basically be cabaple of about 6k+ tongue wieght.. and could be hell of a hot shot style unit. I'm still learning myself because I want to make the proper decision when buying my next tow rig.. but to say you cant tow with it is silly. Check out LOAD MIZER's video on gvwr.. this is sooo much more capable than a 3500 and you wouldnt have to poo yourself at the scales.
You earned a sub man. And the video title. 👌🤣
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Those trucks don't come with many options also most of them aren't four-wheel drive its cool this one is. DMAXRYNO wanted to buy one but he said they're too plain for the money. And you can tow this with them use them to tow horse trailers sometimes hotshots because remember all this truck is a updated Kodiak or Topkick
I think it's not L5P Duramax, it's going to be L5D Duramax. Except International CV is the same as Chevy 4500, 5500, and 6500.
It’s the l5P with smaller turbo for commercial use. Injectors are the same tuning is slightly different.They call it the l5D
Cool video. Those trucks are designed for commercial use. They have decent GVWRs but not so great GCWRs.
I also think they were announced before the 2020+ trucks came out so that’s partly why they use the old cabs.
Still would be cool to have and I would bet they would handle a big fifth wheel or gooseneck much better than a 3500.
Thanks bro, I’m sure with the long wheelbase and weight of the truck, a 20000#+ trailer would feel like 10000#’s. Chevy does some odd things lol
Yes they do sometimes.
There’s one of those trucks pretty local to me that is an LT. Black with an aluminum gooseneck flatbed on it. I’m not sure what that type of bed is called but it’s a flat bed with some storage buoy in and a goose neck hitch built it. It’s SHARP. Pulls a monster gooseneck horse trailer.
The guy from Big Truck Big RV was looking to buy a 5500hd to tow his 40ft 5th wheel. The Chevy dealer talked him out of it. Said it wasn't rated for towing.
I bet it would tow just fine. I also believe you can order one with the LTZ trim package.
I saw that video, but JD would be downgrading with his 450 in my opinion though..
It’s not as good for towing, because you don’t have the proper weight distribution. The rear is too light since it’s made to haul and won’t allow the back wheels to get the proper traction.
@@chrispajak540what do you think if i buy 6500hd and install fifth wheel and used cr haulers he can’t?
It probably has air brakes like you said but also it might have air ride suspension but most likely that specific air tank by the step ups is just for utility purposes since it’s technically a commercial truck
it does not have air brakes haha this is pretty much a slightly stiffer light duty truck
Air tank should also be for the cab airbag.. we have a few of those at work..
Chevy Kodiak and GMC TopKick?
Same family.
So it's more of a want than a need?? Why do that, it would take so much deisel just to get back and forth short distances in a huge truck like that!
Buy it get it
that would look cool as a 6x6
What’s the air tank for??? I justgot one and don’t know what it’s for
I do like the Ford F450 with the widetrack front end...
It's OK. The tires are so small for a 6500. It's good for hauling but not for towing. It's a good looking truck and I do like the forward open hood.
I agree 👍🏾
Made for payload, not towing. Actually pulls less than a 3500.
There made for carrying not hauling
@@lenny8100 There is no such thing as "carrying". You are taking about hauling or payload just like he said. So "carrying" and hauling would be the same thing. It's hauling/haul and towing/tow.
I have pulled 20 tons with no problem. 40 foot gooseneck- I call it towing, call it what you will😊
Think my 01 Cummins 2500 has about the same amount of leaf spring in the rear lol
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I have a steel bed on mine and I can tell you the ride isn't much better. It rides a lot better when I have a loaded trailer though.
Yeah get one they’re bad ass
In my opinion I think the Allison transmission is a lot better than the one ram uses.
Nice...I'll stick with my Ironhide though
These are in a different class so they are rated differently from a light duty😊
I’m a Ram 3500 and 5500 fan but that is a pretty nice truck..
Are those def tanks hanging down on the side?
I'd like to have one for towing, but why is the DEF on the right? All the trucks stops have the DEF pump on the left.
There are truck stops with it on the right but very rare.... I guess GM wants you to use the cumbersome jugs...
Your crazy to use a 3500 for regular heavy towing. That is not a commercial duty truck like that 6500. If you try heavy haul in a 1 ton it might make to 100K before its shot. Not only is the longevity of the truck it self greatly different. Service is way easier/cheaper with a tilt front and then there's the safety factor. The weight of the truck helps tremendously when towing. Have you ever compared the size of the brakes. The commercial medium duty trucks are like four times the size of a of a 1 ton's brakes. If your hauling 18K + daily even weekly you'll be changing those brakes every couple of months and they still might fail. (at the worst possible time too) God forbid if your in a mountainous region. Those down grades will light your brakes on fire! Engine brakes or J brakes will save your a** and keep you running on down the road. I still believe for every day heavy hauling a 9 speed Allison in the medium duty class is the best set up preferably mated to either a Cummins ISB6.7 or the Detroit 60/ DD5. The Duramax 6.6L has a few issues that have to be attended to right out the gate like crappy injectors and a plastic impeller on the turbo that likes to melt, other wise it's a good motor. Better then the Power Stroke IMOP just not the same level as the DD5 or ISB6.7.
I've run a lot of Medium duty trucks from flat beds hauling building material on 20' dump beds and 24' piggy backs to Heavy equipment low boy 30'/40' trailers so this is just real world experience I have had and the other drivers I worked with plus the mechanics that kept our trucks on the road. Not numbers on a piece of paper full of factory specs. Anyone can take my advise for what you want.(or not) I just know what I felt safe driving and what stayed on the road and out of the mechanics shop the most since I got into the industry back in 1988/89.
You'd need that 4 wheel drive in the winter
Wheel base has alot to do with how it turns
I see people towing 30k+ with these often. I hope they bump the ratings soo we dont have to ride dirty.
You so crazy! But I love the truck too!
You kind of glossed over the fact that it’s not really even a gm product, it’s made by Navistar who makes the same truck as a Intertrashional.
Just the frame is international cab and power train is gm so it's mostly gm!
Motor is made by GM come-on man facts
@@bentleyfatheree1616 well they been using it for 22 years
Well not this motor . The L5P is nothing like any other Duramax. GM just kept the name
Did gm sell their medium truck division to Navistar 22 years ago? I thought it was 5 or 6.
Aside from the tilt hood, I'm just not feeling it. 1990 interior (typical GM), less HP, less Torque than my 3500 Megacab, higher DMV fees, very narrow choices of rims and tires, rides like a pool table and for what exactly? Heavier chassis better braking larger frame are all good but if it's lacking everything else and I only tow up to 20k anyway, it's a no sale for me.
You can put your entire ram on the bed of this 6500 and go down the road, wasnt designed for towing, its about payload
Go cry somewhere else
I'm very interested in this truck
Bro... I ha e a 2019 and issues with front axle and I can't find the axle seals anywhere. If anyone knows please let me know
Man I bought my 2018 from that dealer your at. My neck of the woods
That would be a vehicle I would get for my hot shot trucking and my daily drive towing my boat and utv on the bed going down to the lake
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Dumb location for the def tank actually, as all def fill ups at any truck stop would be on the drivers side.
Yea you have to drive in backwards. Same location as my Hino work truck. 🤦♂️
@@devengudinas1649 damn
gvwr is higher than a 3500hd but the cgvwr is lower compare to a 3500hd i do owned a 2022 international cv515
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Doesn't Chevrolet also have one with the Cummins in it too I saw something on Google can you let me know
It’s probably available on the international trucks but not the GM branded ones
BTBRV did a good video on these, GCVW is too low with a high curb weight, bad for towing. These are payload kings.
I saw that video, and I’m surprised they didn’t make this a heavy hauler or to at least tow 30k 🤷♂️
They’re utility trucks… I have a SRW 3500 Denali and wish they’d show what gear you’re in.
I know right??? I’m sure they will address this soon 👍🏾
Haul the world but surprised at the reduced towing numbers and the engine is derated.
the turn capacity can be better, definitely needed.
I'd get one just to modify it to tow.
How much is it brother man?
Nice truck no doubt,on the same note I would never buy anything associated with international. Look at the Ford engines,also they 18 wheelers are crappy. They rattle apart always had issues. Would of better if they did it in their own.
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@@JB_WhoWork thank you for the great reviews love the content! Nice truck 🤠👍🏻
I believe chevrolet sold the rights for navistar to build this. The cab, engine, and trans are original GM parts.
@@brianaustin6184 thanks Brian!
@@brjha idk I see navistars out here with everything being the same aside from the grill and probably one of their navistar motors.
Not sure why international is such a popular choice. Drove a day cab with their A26 engine in it.was subpar to respectful. I do not really know any truckers that are fans them. I’ll have to do some research to see if that is the case bud.
I have a 2022 6500 CC and OMG the roughest truck ever!!!! Can pull like a beast but will beat you to death! I HATE IT!
Stay away from them. I have a c6500 2020 tow truck. The air bags went out at 25,000, the tc lights comes and go. I repaired the air bags and it took me 3 weeks to get it fixed then it went in the shop again a week later. The power and drivetrain is nice. The tank is about 60 to fill with gas price but its too low for towing and the dealers are always busy about 3 weeks out. They are hydronic brakes and the touch screen radio keeps bugging out on random.
Get a ford 650 if you are going to do towing.
It will pull around 9500 pounds.
Pto is not for power take off sir its to move the bed to pick up cars
Why ford f650? Silverado 6500 he cant work on fifth wheel car hauler ?